Episode 18: Can a Dating Coach Help Amy Find “The One”? 😭

Welcome back to Legally Friends 🎙️

This week we brought in dating coach & matchmaker Blaine Anderson to help Amy figure out what’s actually going wrong with her dating life 😭

From dating apps and situationships to family pressure, avoidant attachment, dating in Utah, and moving to Dallas… this episode gets VERY honest.

We talk about:

* Why Amy struggles with dating
* The pressure of being single in Utah 👀
* Dating apps vs meeting people in real life
* Whether Amy is “too picky”
* How family dynamics affect relationships
* Red flags, confidence & texting
* Blaine’s real advice for finding the right person

And yes… Amy’s raging RBF gets discussed 😭

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

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SPEAKER_01 0:20

We're back. Episode 18 of Legally Friends. So I'm the host or co-host, Zach, with my sister-in-law Amy. And we have an exciting guest today. Someone that I think is going to help make a huge difference for Amy, personally.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Hopefully. Because, in my opinion, the family has failed. And Blaine, I don't know if you know this. So everyone tries to set up Amy on dates. And whether she wants it or not, that's the bad part.

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

But we we just, you know, haven't found the right person, haven't been able to get the job done. Um, and so that's why we've invited Blaine Anderson onto the podcast. So she has helped, what, like 7,000 plus men find matches. Um, she's got an incredible resume. So I think it's gonna be very helpful, even though I know you typically help men is where you guide your coaching towards. So I think that's gonna be great. So we can get inside of like what are men thinking, help Amy maybe understand a little bit more, and uh and go from there. So, Blaine, thanks for coming on.

SPEAKER_04 1:30

Yeah, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

So I say we just kind of go dive into your background, get to know you a little bit more. So, how did you get started in helping with you know matchmaking and dating coach and being a dating coach?

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Yeah, so I started as a dating coach. I do primarily work with men, as you mentioned, so I have a nice insight into a man's head, but obviously now that I've expanded into matchmaking, our clients are men, but we're also we're setting them up with women. So I see a lot of um the dating dynamics from both sides. But I started my coaching business in 2020, it was a my pandemic baby. Uh, I worked in the travel industry previously. Obviously, nobody was traveling in 2020, so I was like, oh, what could I do? I'm always giving my guy friends dating advice, and it's a lot of the same advice to all of them. What if I took this advice and I packaged it into a course and I created a course that taught men dating skills, the dating skills I wish guys had when I was single, and uh I sold it. So yeah, my I launched my first course in 2020. Turns out guys really needed the help. Uh it sort of snowballed. Yeah, snowballed from there. Um, since then, as you mentioned, I've helped over 7,000 men uh between coaching and one-on-one coaching courses and my matchmaking business.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

That's awesome. That's really cool. I'm I have a couple questions for you just to start us off, if that's cool. Please. Um so would you say are men actually confused, lazy, scared, picky, or like all of the above? Because we always have our opinions on what, you know, what do we think goes wrong with dates, for example, to Amy. So what have you seen? What do you think is the the typical reason?

SPEAKER_04 3:16

So I've definitely seen all of the things you just mentioned. My typical coaching client is somebody who actually is mostly struggling struggling because they don't necessarily know the steps to take, and oftentimes they lack the confidence to do things like approach women or escalate things on a date so that the woman actually feels a romantic connection. So these are typically really amazing guys who have a lot going for them, but are struggling to break out of the the realm of like hearing you're really nice, but I just didn't hear feel that romantic connection. So that's typically my coaching clients. Like, sure, some of them you might categorize as lazy because they haven't done the right things to like create the life that they want to like meet the women that they're interested in, but the vast majority of them are just at a place where they don't either A, don't know what to do, or B are like very fearful about what doing anything because they're scared of being labeled as a creep or um ending up in like the Me Too bucket. So it's like it's retraining them that like as long as you're being respectful to women, you're you're not the one who's creepy. You know, it's the guys who have no concept or idea that they might be creepy are the ones who are problematic in that area. And then my matchmaking clients typically have different struggles. My matchmaking clients typically don't actually have problems attracting quality women, they just lack the time um or don't want to spend the time that it takes to be on dating apps or to be going to events because there are a lot of founders, CEOs, entrepreneurs, they're very busy and they value their time highly. And so those guys typically have a different challenge than like, say, my coaching clients.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

That's interesting. So the matchmaking side, you have you know, people are just too busy, so they're just gonna, in a way, kind of seek out your help or kind of outsource that use, you know, save some of their time. Um and so I guess my next question for you is like, what is something men misunderstand about women?

SPEAKER_04 5:16

So something I see guys getting wrong all the time, uh, and I think is a fundamental misunderstanding, is they think sometimes that they need to be perfect before they can start dating. They need to get the rays, they need to get the six-pack, they need to be better in some way. When the reality is what women really care about is what it feels like to be around you. If you're able to speak to that, you're working towards the rays or that you like to that you are, like you maybe you have fitness goals that you haven't met yet, that's okay if you are fun to be around and if you make her feel great. It actually doesn't matter like what your those stats on paper are. So people, men I see, will like put off dating thinking they need to be perfect instead of realizing they actually just maybe need to develop their personality a little more.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

For sure. So I'm gonna say, um, right now we can kind of jump into maybe the background on on Amy a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

But perfect.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

The first thing though is have you ever dealt with a Mormon client before?

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Really?

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

So I'm sure you've heard it's just like a totally different world, right? They especially they get married a lot earlier, and especially I would say people in Utah get specifically.

SPEAKER_04 6:35

Wait, are y'all Mormon? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

Yeah, great. So yeah, sorry, should have been more upfront about that one. Um and so in Utah, Amy's considered like ancient for not being married.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

How old is Amy? I'm 28. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

It's so it's kind of funny because it's really not old at all.

SPEAKER_04 6:56

Yeah, but in New York, you're like a spring chicken. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

And so she has a lot of unnecessary pressure, you know, put on her, I think. And we'll talk more about this, Amy, and get your opinion. Just because of the culture and just kind of how everyone operates. And so in reality, we say she's in a rush or needs to find somebody, but we know it's just like we're just saying that to be kind of funny and to play on the culture a little bit. Um but I think now we can kind of dive into the background. Amy, do you want to start or do you want me to actually let's have Amy start with her her dating experiences and then I can feed into what I've seen from like the outside looking in.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

Oh gosh, this is like so terrifying. Um, okay, I would say the biggest thing for me, and like I'm even feeling it right now, I have a really hard time opening up. Um, and I feel like that is probably my biggest thing. My number one thing that I hear from guys from the last like 10 years is you're really hard to read. I'd never know what you're thinking. I don't know if you like me. I'm like, well, I'm spending all this time with you. So if I didn't like you, I wouldn't be spending time with you. Um but yeah, I just feel like I get into, and I think a lot of girls can relate to this. I get into these like two, three months like situationships, and then it kind of just like dies off. And it's just like that's just been my life for the last like 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

Do you want them to die off, or like they're petering out, and then you're like, I wish that had continued?

SPEAKER_03 8:40

Um, I think a mixture of both. Sometimes I want it to die off, but other times I'm like, what went wrong? Like I thought everything was going great. And then it it gets to the point where I'm like, okay, either like we need to stop talking or we need to like actually start like dating and like be exclusive. And then the guy is always like, Well, I'm not ready to take that step. Like, I still like don't know.

SPEAKER_04 9:06

Okay, and are you you're Mormon, are you exclusively dating Mormon guys? Yes, and how old are they typically?

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Um, usually all older than me. Yeah, by a few years, and are they divorced typically? No.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

Okay, so they've never been married either. Yes. Okay, interesting. One of the girls on my team is actually, she's not, she's from she's from Utah, lives in Provo, and um, her family's Mormon, although she doesn't consider herself Mormon anymore. So I hear about her dating uh as she would call them struggles there as well. Yes, yeah, yeah. But she's she actually, and the reason I the nature of my question was she actually mentioned like sometimes she's going out with guys who are in their late 20s who are already divorced because they got married really young.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Yes, and I I'm actually trying to think. Have I gone out with a divorced guy?

SPEAKER_01 9:59

I don't remember. I don't think you have.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

I I haven't, but a lot of my friends do, but that is because typically you get married at 2021. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Yeah, yeah, that was my nature of my question. Well, Zach, do you have your own take on Amy's? Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Well, and my uh other co-host that was supposed to was gonna be here. The biggest thing for Amy, I think we we say is the effort of like putting herself out there, maybe going to some events or just being willing to like open herself up, as she said. Um and I also think she is pretty picky, she's pretty picky, which is a good thing. Like, I don't want her to just end up with some random person, but I do think there is an aspect of like going on dates with picky about um that's a great question. Well, it it's what are you picky about, Amy? And maybe I'll let her answer that. I I want to I don't know how to define her piciness, maybe, but she is she seems pretty picky.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

It okay, this is the hard thing. I feel like with me, I'm a I'm a slow burn. I like to become friends, and then once I like get like that comfortable friendship, then I can really start to like open up and like get that connection. And so I go on like first date, second date, third date, and my families are like, oh my gosh, like, did you like him? How was it? I'm like, yeah, he's nice. Like, I don't know if I like him because I don't know him, and I don't know if that like to the guy is like she's not opening up or she's not, she's really hard to read. I don't know where she stands, and so then he just like kind of gives up. Um but yeah, I like the I feel like I need the friendship, and I feel like that's hard for me to find.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

And I think playing on that is she works within the family business, and so she know she sees the same people over and over again. So like I feel like most people either meet they're meet someone at like at school or at work, or you know, or they live out away, you know, away from home, and so they're forced to be around different people, different friends groups, and so that's how they start to see other people and maybe form some of those friendships. And so that's where I feel feel like in order to do that, she has to make the extra effort because of like her situation to go out and be exposed to different people. Um, and so I feel like that's hard, right? Because that kind of plays against her personality, where she maybe is a little more in you know, closed off. And so having to go and do something that's different can be tough. And so I think that's where a lot of the problems come. Maybe the pickiness comes in of like having to, you know, put herself out there and do something uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it sounds like the problem is almost twofold. It's like your top of funnel isn't as strong as it could be because you aren't meeting enough of the type of people you like. So it's like you're meeting people, it sounds like and then it's like the people you are meeting are like kind of okay. Like you're not leaving with the like, oh, I really like want to get to know this person more. You're kind of like mixed feelings at best about them, so then you don't have the drive to really like get to know them or lean in. So I think like step one would be how can you diversify, for lack of a better word, your top of funnel and where you can meet more people who you are gonna be excited about. Doesn't mean they're gonna for sure each one is gonna be your boyfriend, but it's like you can admire them, you can find them attractive, you can think like, oh wow, this is somebody who is doing something really cool that I would like to know more about. And like that's one of the biggest things I see with the guys I work with too, is that doesn't come naturally to them. They would rather hang out with the friends they already have, they would rather spend time behind a screen. Um, so that does take effort and putting yourself out there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

For sure. I think actually, I have some questions for Amy, maybe I can ask on top of it. Unless Blaine, did you have something else you want to say there?

SPEAKER_04 14:10

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

So, like, Amy, what is your biggest fear in dating? Because I do feel like there is a little bit of fear there, and so is there something behind that's like kind of holding you back?

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I mean, I just don't I don't love to put myself out there. I think everybody's scared a little bit of rejection, um, which is normal and everybody feels like that. So it's not necessarily the rejection because I've been rejected a million times. I mean, I'm 28 still single, so obviously. But yeah, I don't I I don't know. I just you go.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

I was gonna ask. So so Blaine, so further context, she has three other sisters, she's the baby of the family, and everyone else is married, everyone else has kids. And so whenever she goes on a date, this is they're gonna hate me for saying this, but they she she comes back, and I always tell her to not say anything, especially like a first or second date. Don't tell anybody about it because when she comes back, it's like, oh, did you like it? Like, how was he?

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Do you do we have to dissect everything?

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Like, are you in love with them already? Like, is he the one? It's like it's the first date, and so then what happens is the family, because Amy also doesn't want to like disappoint them, sh Amy will say all the good things about the person, about the guy, and so then the family's like, Oh, he seems great. And so then if she goes on a second date, and if she doesn't end up liking him after the second or third date, then it's like, what is wrong with you, Amy? Like this guy's perfect, you're supposed to be married to him, and then it causes a big fight, and then that causes Amy to pull away where she doesn't want to like go on any more dates because she doesn't also want to call this cause this big conflict with the family, and so I think a boundary that might need to be set like internally in the family dynamic.

SPEAKER_04 16:09

Exactly. Sounds like you can advocate for Amy here and be like, guys, we gotta like let her go on a couple dates before we get attached to this person that we don't even know.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Yeah, there there are no boundaries in my family.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Which we need to establish some of those.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

I mean, maybe, but I mean, it's hard when it's like my mom and my sisters and my dad, they're my best friend. I tell everything too. So yeah, we just have to dissect and beat the dead horse over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_04 16:43

Well, what if I mean I I understand them wanting to like be a part of it and have some insight into your life, but maybe it's just also like you can explain it, how Zach said, where it's like, hey, I want to be able to share this stuff with you. I I you guys are my closest people and my best friends. But if you then make me feel bad about when it doesn't work out, it makes me less inclined to go on future dates, and then that makes me less or holds me back from the ultimate end goal that we all have of me meeting the one. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Yeah, I agree, and I think it's you think you're not sharing it, but like you're also going to set yourself up to be a little bit happier, and also that's gonna make the whole relationship better because it's just like it it causes so much tension within.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

I will say, in the last like year or two, especially, I feel like Emily and Rachel are like, Oh, you're going on a date, cool. Don't tell me anything about it until you know you really like him because like I don't want to get involved or attached because then like I'm just sad for you. And I do feel like a lot of times, and Zach, I don't know if you'll agree with this or not, but sometimes I feel like if something like fizzles out or I'm like, no, I don't really like him, they're more sad than I am. I'm like, I don't I could have like I could take him or leave them, like I don't really care, I'm indifferent. But they're and I think it's because they're more sad of like the idea of it.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:17

Zach, would you agree with that?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, everyone just kind of builds up this whole fantasy of like, oh, this is the one. There's gonna be a big wedding, it's gonna be so amazing. This is our future son-in-law, brother-in-law. Like, it's just it's only been a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 18:29

There's so much pressure on you, Amy. It is a lot of pressure, and I I've been in this situation where I'm like, I either want to break up or I want to end things, and sometimes I feel like I can't because I'm like, I don't, it's almost just easier to like stay in it than to like deal with the family.

SPEAKER_04 18:49

Oh wow, that must be really hard.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Yeah, hence why I kind of have like an avoid, an avoidant like attachment system where I'm just like, I'd rather just not deal with it, and that's that.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

And it's obviously coming from a good place, your family, like they have found their person, they have kids, they love that life, and they want that for you too. Yeah, but that doesn't make it any easier if you're feeling like guilty when you end something that you know isn't right for you. Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 19:22

I feel like there might go ahead. Going back to what I said about like you know, optimizing the people you're actually meeting, I feel like that could also make a big difference. Just like you also need to find somebody you can actually be excited about, you know. Right. And it sounds like right now you're not really going on dates with people you're like, wow, like this person's amazing. It's like this person's okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

Yeah, right now I just I'm in like the dating app trenches where it's just like I'm just like going on a random hinge date so that I have a date for the week. Um, and it's not anybody that I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm so excited about this person. I'm just like, oh I I have a date. Like, I hope it's not hours long type of thing.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

I hope it's not too long. That's your mindset going in.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

That is the worst. Um, there's actually a great transition because I uh I don't know if you have your phone next to you, Blaine. I would love if you could open up Instagram and go to the search Amy Scala, A-M-Y-S-K-A-L-L-A.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

And give us your first impression of Amy's Instagram profile. And because this has been a kind of debate on our side, right? We we always think, like, why, because no guys, according to Amy, really DM her much or reach out to her over Instagram. And like, I don't know, when I was dating, I used that all the time. I felt like that was pretty common. Um, and so we always wonder, like, what's the impression of Amy? Why are people not reaching out? Is it the Instagram profile, is what people perceive? Is it the family aspect with like her sisters all being influencers? Like, you know how men think. Like, what is your you know, thoughts around that?

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Yeah, I mean, the men I work with, I certainly don't see them being like fearful of women who have significant online followings. Sometimes like I'll have a client be like, Can you set me up with her? And I'm like, that's Sydney Sweeney, sir. Like, no.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

I cannot do that for you. Um, I think your Instagram looks great. You look beautiful, you look family oriented, you have hobbies, you are a horse girl, you travel. Really, you don't get DMs.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

No.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

Ever?

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Very seldomly, as my dad would say, very seldomly.

SPEAKER_04 21:57

Are you checking your requests folder?

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:01

I like how you mention that um these are your nieces and nephews.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Oh, because one time our family friend was trying to set me up with this guy that he plays basketball with, and he's like, How many kids does she have? Like, I I don't know if I'm ready to be a dad, and I was like, Oh my gosh, like they're just like actually my best friends, and my nieces and nephews are not my children.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

That's so funny. Yeah, so that's a good disclaimer. Yes, but I truly there's nothing here that I'm like, oh, you need to clean this up or remove this. Um, that would be like scaring guys away.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

I will say I feel like okay, so I feel like now everybody's an influencer, and so now I feel like the mindset has kind of changed, especially like when TikTok, because everybody can go viral on TikTok. But my sisters are like the OG, like mommy lifestyle influencers, they've been doing it for almost 20 years now. Wow, and by default, I've always had a lot of followers because of that. So, like, even 10 years ago, when I moved down to Provo for the very first time after graduating high school, all of the guys were like, Oh, like, are you like a blogger? Like, why do you have so many followers? And so I feel like maybe that's why my family thinks, oh, it's because of like your following or like who your sisters are, because that's definitely how it was 10 years ago. Like, I had a guy tell me, I'll never introduce you to your family to my family because your family is like an anomaly and my family won't get it. And we had been dating for like five months. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

That's weird.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_04 23:53

I also like, yeah, I guess there could be something like they're making assumptions based on the number of followers you have and who your family is that you're gonna be a certain way without, you know, actually knowing you. Yeah, it's certainly I mean, people make so many assumptions online, but I just don't obviously I don't know your sisters or like the context that well, but um there's certainly nothing on your profile that gives an impression to me that you would be like a red flag or like not um serious about dating or you know, not somebody that they would want to meet.

unknown 24:31

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Interesting. I was expecting maybe something that you would say. I was hoping, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

Like less first traps, Amy.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

I was like, please give me give me one thing. I have a question.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

But also, maybe all it sounds like you're in a fairly small community, like the like everybody knows each other, like everyone who's within that influencer community and within Utah, like they all probably do know your family and your sisters based on you know their level of fame. So yeah, maybe it's just like intimidation and making assumptions about like you and what you would want. Yeah. And they are, oh, I'm not that.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

Yeah, yeah, that's what I've always thought personally. Um because when I when I met my wife, I didn't even have Instagram, and so then I started telling people I was dating Megan Scala, and people are like, Oh, the Scala sisters, and they would like say some assumptions that they had about them, right? And so that's why I've always kind of assumed the same thing happening with Amy. It's just like you have small community, everyone kind of talks and kind of has their ideas of the family when they don't really know anything, right? So then they start telling people like, oh, if you go on this date with this girl, like that's what you should expect, and like they really don't know anything. And so I I I personally think that's what happens, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

How did you meet your wife?

SPEAKER_01 25:58

Uh, I went on a double date, and I was with my girlfriend, and she was with my best friend, and uh then things didn't work out out with my girlfriend, and then I ended up messaging her messaging her on Facebook though.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

So this was like a year later, though. A year later, and your best friend and her had broken up.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

They didn't even they went on one date. That was it. Oh, okay. So it wasn't a big deal, and so but I used Facebook as my way to get in touch with her.

SPEAKER_04 26:22

So interesting.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yeah, yeah. So that was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_04 26:26

That is funny.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Um anyway, so what I guess one question I had when you look at that profile. I don't know if you could say this, but like based on your clientele, what type of guy do you think that profile attracts? This is a tough question.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

Yeah, I mean, here's something that could I would say like it looks like you do a lot of really amazing things. Like you travel a lot, you have what some people would consider like luxury experiences. So there could be guys who see that and they're like, oh, I couldn't keep up. Like I wouldn't be able to offer her the lifestyle that she clearly already has or wants. I think the type of guy who would see your profile is probably the type you want to attract who is like, oh, that's already like a lifestyle I'm living. She's beautiful. Like, let's see if she'd be interested in like joining, you know, and being a part of mine. So I would say you probably are too intimidating for some guys, especially like in Utah, who maybe like don't have as much travel or worldly experience. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Yeah, I think that's a great point.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

Have you thought, I mean, obviously, your family, your business, everything is in Utah, but have you ever considered like maybe a little study abroad in LA or New York?

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Um, I don't think I would do well in LA. I don't think I could ever move there. Um Megan and Zach, Megan and Zach are moving to Dallas. And so I told my dad, because I work for my dad, and I'm like, dad, it'll just be like a six-month like internship in Dallas, and hopefully I can like meet somebody. Um I think that's a great idea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

I think we're we're getting the room ready for her, but anyway, I keep going.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

Are you exclusively looking to date other Mormons or are you flexible within religion? Like if someone was Christian.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Okay, so it depends on who you ask. If you're asking my I'm asking you. I am open. I mean, my my top priority, I think, would be Mormon. Um, but I am open to dating somebody who is Christian. Just somebody who has like that love of Jesus, God, family. That's like my top two priorities. If you love Jesus and if you love your family, and like that's what you want.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

Okay, that opens up the dating pool a lot, especially someplace like Dallas. Yeah. What's your age range you're comfortable with?

SPEAKER_03 28:53

I would date from like my age 28 all the way to 38.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

Okay, okay. I'm like running through my head my list of clients for a Christian in Texas.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yeah, set me up with someone.

SPEAKER_04 29:06

A lot of them are in their early 40s, but I respect like sticking within the roughly 10-year age cap. Um, yeah, I got a lot of early 40s clients because that's when they come to me, they're like, wait, I need your help.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

Do the do the early 40s clients have kids or are they not you some, but no, not typically.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

They're like early 40s, never married.

unknown 29:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:31

And want to be a good idea. I would kids. I would be open to expanding it to like 40. I think I think 40 is the oldest I could go, though. That's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_04 29:40

I respect that. I don't have a client right now who falls into that, but I'm gonna keep my eye out for you. And I also just think by moving locations, you're open like Dallas is a massive, massive city. You're gonna be, and especially if you're flexible within Christianity, you're gonna open yourself up a huge pool of potential candidates. But I also think there's an opportunity where you need to remember, like, you're like, I understand like you want to develop the friendship first, and you can you should absolutely communicate that on the first date, like sh or second date. Like, I'm typically more of a slow burn type person. I'm really enjoying getting to know you, and I want to continue to do that, but I want to also share with you that I really like to get to know a person before rushing into a relationship. Like you might need to do some ex-I don't want to say explaining, but like cluing guys in. They're not mind readers, they're the opposite mind readers, they're actually quite dense a lot of the time. So they're if you're like, if you have heard, like you're kind of hard to read. You're a closed book, you know, like you are a black box to most men. That's what I'm hearing. So you also are responsible for making sure, like you know you're not open from the beginning. Tell them that. Tell them that's something that like comes with time for you. Tell them that you liked the date. Tell them that you want to see them again, tell them that you're excited to explore this relationship. They need to feel that desire from you so that they feel comfortable continuing to invest. It's like what I said in the beginning, the guys I struggle with, the guys I coach, they struggle with when to move things forward, when to keep asking for dates, because they don't want to be the weirdo if she's not interested. Right. You know, they don't want to be making you uncomfortable. So if you give them that green light, if you give them the like, hey, I'm really enjoying this and I do want to keep seeing you, that's gonna make them feel, you know, oh, I feel good about that. Like, okay, I'm happy to hear that. Because, you know, I tell guys all the time, don't go after a woman who's not interested in you. Like, stop wasting your time, stop chasing the woman who's like not it. Seek out the woman who's actually reciprocating. So you also need to go out of your way, knowing that you aren't the most like open to make sure they feel the mutual reciprocation.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

I want to just jump in with two things on that that drive me crazy with Amy in her dating.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

And actually, well, actually, the first one isn't really drive me crazy, but I think this is perfect what she said. You need to explain, in my opinion, that like your face, because she has a legendary RBF.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

I have raging RBF. Like, I could be having the like genuinely, I could be having the best time of my life, and it looks like I like want to die.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

Yes. Like, there's so many times I'm at the house or whatever we're visiting, and I look at Amy and I'm like, wow, she looks miserable, but she's actually happy and like enjoying the time, but you would have no idea. And so she goes on dates, and you can see on the podcast sometimes, like we're all talking, and she's just like sitting there like stone cold, and you think she's so disinterested, but she's not, she's having a great time, and I think you need to maybe tell people that and also maybe give a little you know, a little smile every once in a while.

SPEAKER_04 32:59

We've you know, but maybe you can put on your dating app profile, like as one of your prompts. Like, don't be scared if um you think I'm having a bad time, I have raging RBF, like maybe like a funny thing, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Yes, and then the second is the texting. Because going as as Blaine said, men are not the smartest, and um we have to be told, like, you had a good time, or if you don't text back, we think you are not interested at all. And Amy is known for being like the type of text who doesn't text back for a couple days, or no, no, no, it's not okay. That is the biggest question.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Not if it's not if it's somebody that I'm like actually interested in. If it's somebody that I'm not interested in, I'll like space it out and like kind of like you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

No, even with the guys you are interested in, there's been times where I've said, Oh, when did he text you this? And he's like, You're like, uh, like a couple hours ago, or like you know, six hours ago or whatever it was. And it's like, no, well, I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_04 34:05

I'm okay with hours, I'm not okay with days.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

I see it's like the conversation is flowing, and then all of a sudden it's like a super long stall of like, you know, she he texted in the morning, and then it's like end of day.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

Yeah, it's like and to him, that's like, oh, she's not interested.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

That's what I would think, but I'll let the expert maybe chime in on that.

SPEAKER_04 34:25

I agree, yeah. Like that's what he's gonna assume.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Yeah, so those are my two things, Amy.

SPEAKER_04 34:31

You we gotta work on the texting, but yeah, I'm I'm a really bad texter, and maybe also being away from your family in Dallas will give you a little bit of that natural space and boundary where that no one is like or they aren't harassing you as much like before and after every date about where things are going. I'm really supportive of this uh study abroad internship situation in Dallas.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Yes, yes. I think I think everyone is very on board for it.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Great, great.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Um one thing we talked about was your dating app profile. Um, Amy, what do you have on your hinge right now? Like what what questions have you answered? Pull it up. Yeah, let's let's pull it up and see what Blaine thinks about that. Um, because I've actually done some swiping for Amy too. Funny enough. And um I don't know. I feel like I don't know how it is other places, but in Utah, it seems like most guys will match, but then nothing happens after that. Where just they don't message back or they make it.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

The amount, yeah, the amount of like um where is it? Like people that I like it says their turn, their six, hidden, of just like they haven't responded to me.

SPEAKER_04 35:49

12 That I feel like is just part of the problem with dating apps in general. There's like the problem of just too many options, too much falling through the cracks. That's why I'm really supportive of you figuring out ways and places that you can meet people that aren't just the dating apps and aren't the people you're already seeing on a regular basis. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

That's the other thing about Utah, especially if you're dating like in the Mormon community, it is such a shallow little kiddie pool that like I'm recycling guys that I've already gone out with six years ago. And it's like, okay, we're still single six years later, maybe we should try and go on another date, and then uh nothing ever happens. We gotta get you out of Utah. Yeah, I I agree. I think that might just be the solve for all of your problems.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Do you want me to show like my profile?

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Yeah, let's see it.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

Oh, yeah. Okay, this is my first picture. Maybe not the best first picture. We need something without glasses, we need to feel connected to you. Okay, and then my prompt is try to guess this about me, introvert or extrovert. And then this is my second picture, second and third. Okay, cute sisters working out at Pilates. We like, and then I geek out on conspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

Okay, but let's make that a call to action. I geek out on conspiracy theories. Give me your best one. Like hit me with something I haven't heard before. Like, give something, give it, add something so there's an easy reply for guys to mess with you.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

Okay, and then obviously I have to have a horse. Yes, love it. Picture. And then it says, I'll fall for you if you can pull a horse trailer. Okay, we like that. That's cute. That'll do well in Dallas too.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

Um, okay, I think it's pretty good. I think update your first photo to be something where you're not wearing glasses, where you're smiling, where you're looking at the camera, so it feels like more of a connection with you. Also, I don't know, like if if you feel like you being having the sisters you have actually is scaring people away, I love the idea of you having a photo with family to showcase that's important to you, but maybe like kick your sisters out and get some somebody else in there. That's you know, like your parents or something if it's gonna like make intimidate men. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

It's actually a terrible thing.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Just to give guys a leg up in what to message you about, and then I think you're in good shape. But again, I don't feel like through lack of it doesn't sound like your lack of problem is like getting matches, it's that these guys are dropping the ball and the matches aren't going anywhere, which just goes back to like get off the apps, meet people in person.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

Yes, and that's what I would prefer. Like, I hate that I like am on hinge, but I just like I don't know what else to do. Yeah. So okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:55

Well, let's talk about some places that you could meet people in person. Where right now do you spend time that you see guys you'd potentially be interested in?

SPEAKER_03 39:06

So just like church on Sunday. So we need to die, we that's good, that's a good start, but we need to diversify. Yeah. Um what's the scene, like it's so hard to explain like the dating scene in Utah, especially if you're not like going like out to the bars. So I feel like a lot of people will just have like house gatherings, like a barbecue, or I don't know. And obviously there's a lot more to do in Utah in the summer, like the the social scene like really dies down in the winter time. Um do you ski? No. I'm a horrible skier. I can do pizza on the bunny hill and that's about it. Um yeah, so like I'll like go to like barbecues, but again, it's like I've been friends with these guys for like 10 years now.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Yeah, so what are some places like when do you go to a gym?

SPEAKER_03 40:12

Um, I mean, I go to Pilates, I'm not meeting any guys there.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Yeah, yeah. I'm just like thinking is there like workout classes or a run club or like hiking groups or like some sort of active group where there would be men and women? Because it seems like you need to diversify your community that you're getting in front of. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

Like is there some sort of horse club?

SPEAKER_03 40:38

I don't I don't know if there's a horse club and if there is, probably not a lot of, but yeah, do I have a rodeo?

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Hang on at the rodeo. Okay, I feel like Dallas will have more of these opportunities too. Like, do you play pickleball? I've never played pickleball. I feel like these racket sports are good for meeting dudes.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Yes, yeah, you maybe seen a pick up a new hobby just for the sake of meeting people.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

Because it might not even be like, oh, I meet a guy at this new hobby, but maybe you even meet a new girlfriend or a guy who's a friend, and then they invite you to their barbecue, and it's a whole new set of people that you haven't met yet.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah. I agree. And that's where I think the getting outside of yourself to go to like maybe try something new. Because I do feel like I've heard you say, Oh, like I don't want to go to this event because it's all the same people. But like, yeah, there's always maybe a couple new people there that you could just go talk to, or maybe that person knows a different group of you know, people that'll introduce they can introduce you to, or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Yeah. But and I think I don't know, maybe you're already doing this, but I think it's definitely appropriate to mention that you're single, mention that you're dating. You know, so you don't want to be like shameless, but like solicit setups and matches. Like if you're meeting new people and you're making friends, like don't be afraid to say, yeah, I'm dating. One of my goals this year is to lean more into my dating life. I'm excited to meet somebody. Yeah.

unknown 42:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

I feel like that's not as a crazy thing to say as maybe is it used to be. I feel like that's kind of like normal because people talk about like, oh, I'm working on myself this year. I'm not I'm not really dating. That's the same thing to say. Like, I'm yeah, I'm trying to date right now.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Yeah. No, I definitely do that. Like, so I my dad does commercial real estate development. So last week we were on like a tenant tour showing a tenant an office space um potentially, and they were talking to me and they were like, Are you married? Are you single? And I was like, Oh no, I'm single. And they were like, Oh, like, how's dating? I'm like, Oh, it's fine, like, you know, whatever. And I was like, if you know anyone, like set me up. So, like, I definitely like say that because that's what I prefer over like hinge. Yeah. So that definitely is like my first, like good. That's awesome. Preference. Yeah. Keep it up.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Um, so Amy though, say you had to describe for Blaine, like your I dream guy. Like, who so I mean I should be looking for like at work, like if I meet somebody, like I could set you up. You know what I mean? Like, who would you want to go out with? Like, who are you looking for?

SPEAKER_03 43:25

So, looks-wise, I really don't have a type. Like, and Zach, I feel like you can agree. Like, if you go back and look at the guys that like I've dated or I've talked to, they're all pretty, they're all very different looking.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

You do want tall, though.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

I the only thing I I do want somebody like six feet or over. How tall are you? I'm five's okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:50

I'm not against you having your preferences for height, but I will say the shorter kings have had to develop their personalities more. So you will miss out on a lot of opportunities with like the 5'8 to 5'10 crowd. They've got it going on. They're oftentimes funnier, they have more character, stronger personalities. I'm not saying like obviously every five eight guy you should be taking a date with, but there's a lot of really attractive guys who are under six feet tall, who are even maybe on the taller side of that, who like long-term, like who cares really, you know?

SPEAKER_03 44:31

Yeah. I I think the shortest I could go is five ten. Okay. So like one every single, like the shortest guy in my family is six two. The tallest is six six. Okay. So I'm surrounded by tall men and I love my high heels. And I don't want to be taller.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

But if you go on a if you go on a date and you see the guy is five ten, are you already just like this is over? You're not gonna give him a shot.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

No.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Okay. Alright, I'm just wondering. Because I I sometimes think you maybe you do do that, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

It's definitely a lot easier to do that like on hinge. If I like see he's 5'9, I'm like, oh, X.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:11

Which is it's so rude. Like, I shouldn't I shouldn't do that. Um, okay, anyway, back to like my my dream guy.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:19

So he would be over six foot. Um with flexibility down to 5'10. Yes, yes. Um he is Christian or Mormon, loves God and Jesus, wants a family, very family-oriented, like close with his family, can mesh and be close with my family. And hard working. Other than that, that like that's really it. That's all I'm looking for. And I feel like that's not too crazy to ask for.

SPEAKER_04 45:52

No, I don't think it's too crazy at all. I think it's very doable. And then of course, you have to like have the vibe. Like, once you meet, like you need to feel like there's like the chemistry. Yeah, there has to be like the connection. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:05

Which uh Amy, how are you though on like first dates? Because I think personally, this is why I wanted to do this, because I think Amy's like the funniest person. I think she's great, but I always wonder what she's like on a first date if that personality comes out. So are you super close off? Do you even like give a chance for that to come out, or how how does that typically go?

SPEAKER_03 46:28

Usually on the first date, if I like do not know you and I don't really have any connection to you, I am very reserved. Especially, I okay, I also let's add this to the list. Outgoing. I need somebody outgoing to bring that out in me. Um, because like I've gone on dates with guys who are like also very reserved, and it just it's like too, it's too reserved, and then I'm like, there's nothing going on here. But if I if I'm on a first date with somebody who's really outgoing that they can pull that out in me, then I do feel like it comes out and I get more comfortable faster. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Blaine, do you have any advice on like maybe how she could bring out that like funny side at the beginning with certain like questions or things that she should, you know, say?

SPEAKER_04 47:23

Yeah. Well, I would say like backing up from even going on the date, do something that brings that out of you before the date. Like call your brother-in-law, have a funny chat, like hang out with your family, uh, watch a comedy special, like whatever it is that makes puts you in that mood, do that before the date. So you go into the date already feeling that vibe and like that's good, being in that mindset. Um so then you're not like, you know, if you're like rushing straight from work or you just spend an hour doom scrolling, you're not you're not gonna be able to put your best foot forward, you're not gonna be in a good head space when you show up to the date. So like go to Pilates, then go get ready. Like, you know, go on a walk, hang out with your family, do something that's gonna make you feel really good.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

Yeah, I think that's really good. And not maybe calling the whole family and dissecting what you're gonna do before the date.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

What normally happens is like an hour, uh like when I start getting ready, it's just like a family FaceTime of dissecting how my makeup looks, what I'm gonna wear, what I'm gonna say, what are we gonna do on the date? How long is the date gonna be? Is it just gonna be like a quick dessert date that's an hour, or is it gonna be dinner and then dessert and then I don't know.

unknown 48:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:38

Yeah. So I think also maybe it sounds challenging, but like setting some of those boundaries where you're like involving less people. Because I think it's hard when you have like a bunch of people in your ear, did you like him? Was he this? Was he that? To really understand how you felt. And I think after the date, rather than jumping in and telling other people about him, try and sit with it for an hour with how you felt. How did he make you feel? Maybe you even journal or take notes in your phone about what you liked, what maybe you have questions about and want to explore on a future date, and really sit with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:13

Yeah, I think, and I kind of feel like the family might be offended hearing that. That you're not gonna Tell them you talk to an expert and she's gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Exactly. Well, they're gonna hear this and they're gonna be like, well, well, yeah. Don't come for me, family.

SPEAKER_01 49:30

No, it's give Amy space. It's good because it's good for Amy. We all love Amy. We want her to, you know, be happy and to do what she wants to do and find the right person. And so I think it's sometimes it's like the rest of us needs to take a back seat and let yeah, Amy like be relaxed before the date where she doesn't have everyone just calling her and pressuring her, and like after the date, like figure out, oh, what did I like about this guy? Like, those are all good things for you, which are all gonna make us happy long term, you know what I mean? Because we're gonna see you being happy. Yeah, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Yeah, no, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

With that being said, Blaine, we kind of went through a lot of different things. What is your well, Kate, because we're legally friends, right? So we kind of use some legal terms. So, what would be your 30-day sentence for Amy of things she should do over the next 30 days to try and make a difference in her dating life?

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Yeah, first and foremost, diversify, diversify the people you're meeting by picking up some new hobbies and getting exposure to new friend groups. Number two, make sure when you're going like before and after dates, you're setting, you're giving yourself some space to understand how you feel and have some boundaries and like not have put so much pressure on yourself from your family. And then lastly, when you do like somebody, understand that it's okay if you don't have fireworks on the first date. Like, that's not the requirement. The requirement is just did I find this person interesting and do I want to know more about them? And then if that's the case, don't be afraid to tell that person that you're excited to get to know them and that you want to see where this can go so that they have clarity into how you're feeling.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

Yeah, I love that. I think that'll help a lot.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

Yes, yeah, and move to Dallas.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

Yes, at least give it a couple months in Dallas and see if you can.

SPEAKER_04 51:16

Try it out.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Yeah, I think it'll be about summer though.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

That's like a tough time, maybe in the fall.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

Enjoy summer in Utah, get these new skills under your belt, then do your internship, your fall internship in Dallas, find your husband, you'll be home by the holidays. Yes, I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Exactly. Yeah, that's great. Um, well, I love that. And I think so. To end, we usually do what is called judge and jury, where we have people submit either like their questions or things that they are things that are happening in their life, and then we are kind of like the judge and jury and give our verdicts for them. So I'm gonna read just a couple. We have some really short ones, and we'll have you join us and as part of the judge and jury. So the first one is my family hates every guy that I date. Are they protecting me or sabotaging me? What are your thoughts on that? That's all it is. Um, sure. Blaine, if you want to go or okay.

SPEAKER_04 52:22

Oh, well, I don't know. I need to like know more about their family, like and the person's taste in men or women. Like, do you just have terrible taste? Like, maybe they are looking out for you. Um, yeah, I I don't I would like, I don't know, I'd like to think your family isn't trying to sabotage you, but I think maybe it depends a little bit on your track record too.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

I agree. I think it's so it's so hard with these because I always need and want more context. But I feel like sometimes I feel the opposite in this situation where I go out with somebody and my family is like so obsessed, I'm like, you like literally don't know anything about them, and they're like, we don't care, we love him, like get married already. And it's just because like they know that like I want to get married, I want to move on to the next phase of life, and they want that for me. So I feel like if your family is like my family, where they're like ultra protective, just want what's best for you because they know what you want, then I hope it's not sabotage, and I hope they're just like looking out for you and they're like, no, like you have trash taste in guys, and we're trying to protect you. I hope that's what it is. I I hope they're not sabotaging.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Yeah, I would say maybe have them try and set you up with somebody or like show who would be that guy, because maybe that would help identify whether they're sabotaging sabotaging or not, because maybe they don't want you to get married or don't want you to like go off and do your own thing. They're trying to keep you for themselves. And so maybe if they're willing to set you up with somebody else or maybe show you the type of guy that they want you to be with, then that might kind of answer that question for you, whether like they're protecting or not. But yeah, I think that one's tough without further context. Um, next one, and this one I think hits home close for Amy. Not exactly the same, but my mom wants to me to date someone from church, but I'm not attracted to that person. What would you do, Amy?

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Oh, I've been in this position many a times where my sisters are like, oh my gosh, you should date him. He has the nicest family, he's the best guy. And I'm like, yeah, he's really nice and like we're friends. I'm not attracted to him. I don't want to date him. I don't think I could be married to that person. And I will say, like, there are certain things where I'm like, yeah, I can let that go. I can let that go. But if I'm not attracted to somebody or I don't feel that connection, it doesn't matter who you are, what you're saying to me, it's a solid no, and you won't ever change my mind. And so I feel like I'm very firm on that. So you just gotta be firm.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Yeah, this one's tough because I always I'm on the outside and I always try and take Amy's side on most of this stuff. But I'm also like, maybe you should go out with them and just kind of use it as a practice date in a way.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

I will say I I always give people a chance. Like the people that like my mom or my sisters have tried to set me up with, I've gone on multiple dates with, and I'm like, yeah, it's just not there. So if you're not giving it a chance, like at least I always say, and maybe the expert can be like, maybe don't have that mindset. I always am like, I'll go on a first date with anyone.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

No, that's the great mindset. That's the right mindset to have. I love everything you just said, but then at the end of the day, if it's not there, it's not there. So you just have to be honest with the person, like your mom or your sister, whoever is trying to set you up.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And last one, this one, maybe this is gonna be something like I don't know what your age um range is of people that you help with. But this person said, I'm 71 and I can't find anybody. Where should I be looking? This was from one of our listeners.

SPEAKER_04 56:25

Have they never been with anybody or they're just single now?

SPEAKER_01 56:28

I think they're just single now.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

Oh, okay, okay. Um, 71. Okay, pickleball. There's like a whole older community, people who play pickleball, shuffleboard, bingo, uh literally all the places that Amy should be looking to. I know.

SPEAKER_03 56:44

Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:45

Both of you, maybe you guys should like get together and go meet people together. Yeah, we can use like wingmen. You can be at the senior one, yeah. Yeah, they're they're gonna be at the more senior version. Um, also, I feel like I mean, same advice I gave you, like get out there, pick up new hobbies, expose yourself to new friend groups and communities. And then also, I feel like, especially for older people, like if you can make a good online dating profile and you're over 50, you're gonna clean up online.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Wait, really? Have you seen that?

SPEAKER_04 57:17

Well, yeah, because it's just like most people over 50 like aren't good at technology, and not that's like a such a generalization. For sure. They aren't like media forward with understanding like getting great photos and like how to make the app like curate their Instagram or their app to make them attractive, like to get advertisement. So if you can do that and you're on the older side, like you're gonna be the anomaly and like really stick out. I have a course on it. Hit me up. I would love to help.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 57:43

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 57:43

That's awesome. Well, that is all we had for this episode. I don't know, Amy, did you have any last questions or did you get drilled enough?

SPEAKER_03 57:51

This is just no, this is just my final question for Blaine. After spending an hour with me, out of your all of your Rolodex of guys that you've helped or are currently helping, is there anybody that you're like, okay, maybe he's not Mormon and maybe he doesn't live in Utah or Dallas, but I have this guy that like has popped into my mind for you. Like, do you have anybody that you're like, I would set you up with him?

SPEAKER_04 58:17

Okay, the Christian claims I've been thinking of are all over 40. So that like nixes them from your age range. I don't have anyone who comes to mind from uh who's like definitely Christian or oh, I wonder how old someone just came to my mind who's Mormon. Oh I worked with him a few years ago, so I don't know if he's still single. He did my course like four years ago. So if I don't know, I guess if my course was good, he's probably taken by now. But uh he did. I'm gonna I'm gonna think about, I'm gonna talk to the matchmakers on my team because I would love to set you up. And likewise, you know, we're a fairly small agency. I have five full-time matchmakers, so who how many guys we work with at a time like isn't a ton. So like the chance of any one person being perfect for someone we're working with isn't like super high. But our client list is always changing. So I'm definitely gonna keep you in mind, Amy. And then also if any of your listeners want to be kept in mind for our clients, they can apply. It's just dating by Blaine.com slash women, and that will take you to an intake form to fill out so we can understand who you're looking for and then reach out if we have somebody. Awesome. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 59:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Well, thank you, Blaine. That was a lot of fun. Um, yeah, please go do that. Go fill out the form, go follow Blaine on Instagram. Um, we really appreciate it. Anything else you'd like to add in?

SPEAKER_04 59:44

No, that's everything. I would love um, I'd love to set Amy up. So I'm definitely gonna do a little research and keep you in mind. And um, I have a good I have a feeling, you know, if you take some of these tips that your family is so supportive, they want the best for you. I think if you implement them and you really focus on it for the rest of like this year, say, I have a good feeling that you'll be able to find somebody that you're excited about.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Yes. Fingers crossed, crossing our fingers. All right, thanks a lot, Blaine. Um bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13

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