Legally Friends
Legally Friends is the weekly podcast where brother-in-law Zach and sisters-in-law Emily and Amy get real about what it's actually like to be family by law. From navigating family vacations and sibling rivalries to dissecting celebrity drama through a family lens, no topic is off limits. Each episode features their signature "Judge & Jury" segment where they give their verdicts on listener-submitted in-law dilemmas — think mother-in-laws who wear white to weddings, husbands who vacation solo with their moms, and everything in between. It's funny, honest, and surprisingly relatable. New episodes drop weekly on Sunday evening.
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Legally Friends
Episode 24: Everyone Is Guilty This Week
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This week, nobody is safe.
Amy updates us on dating, Zach has way too many opinions, Emily somehow proves she can’t be trusted around a grill, and Judge & Jury returns with family drama that has us completely divided.
In this episode:
⚖️ The DM that got left on read ⚖️ Dating rules we don’t agree on ⚖️ Why Emily should never be in charge of dinner⚖️ Amy’s latest horse obsession ⚖️ Family situations that deserve a verdict ⚖️ Relationship takes that might start an argument
As always, we’re not lawyers. We’re just opinionated.
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Better put 'em in the dirt with penny loaves. No tendo. I'm a window. Episode 24.
SPEAKER_01Ballin'. Episode 24.
SPEAKER_03Is it technically 23? Because we didn't No, it's 24.
SPEAKER_01Because we're gonna even if we don't count Emilies. Oh. It's 24. Um Love you, buddy. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay. Well, yes, welcome to episode 24, and look what I'm gonna do. Up in the show. Welcome to the event. Um yeah, it's late right now, and you have been so freaking annoying tonight.
SPEAKER_03What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_01You and me again.
SPEAKER_03I have been beyond fun. We're gonna add you just don't appreciate art.
SPEAKER_01Art?
SPEAKER_03Art. You heard what I said.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna add the clip of you singing at the beginning here, and that was not art.
SPEAKER_03What clip?
SPEAKER_01You're singing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, what what was I singing?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. You can jump in with some if you'd like.
SPEAKER_03No, like was I rapping or was I singing?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. What was it?
SPEAKER_03Well, no, like the clip. What's the clip of?
SPEAKER_01You just barely.
SPEAKER_03So me rapping.
SPEAKER_01That was rapping?
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna add that.
SPEAKER_03No, I was talking about when I was singing Cheetahs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I went through the first album.
SPEAKER_03And then I went through the second album when they're in Barcelona.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. So I went on a walk with the boys. Come back. And it's like I walked in to the Scala family house back in 2006. Yeah. So maybe it would have been 10, you would have been eight. Cheetah Girls blasting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You guys are singing so loud and doing a little art and craft.
SPEAKER_03It's a masterpiece, first of all.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03And what? Oh, and Deanny was coloring a pair um his cowboy boots, right? No. No.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he didn't. Oh, he colored a picture with a puppy book. Yes. Yes. And it was so good. Yeah. It was so good. Bye, Dean. Bye bye. Yes, you're singing. You know, people have been really, really nice trying to add some suggestions for how to avoid migraines.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01I think number one would be you stop singing.
SPEAKER_03No, I think that Cheetah Girls could help cure your migraine.
SPEAKER_01After today. No, okay. Then let's also go back like a couple more hours. Emily comes over.
SPEAKER_03Ah, yes. And she all of a sudden turns into Michael Jackson.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Michael.
SPEAKER_03Is that barbecue sauce on your hand?
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is. Because you know why? Because Emily comes over. Let's let's just talk about this whole thing.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01She calls Megan before. Megan, cook for me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because yes, Megan is an amazing cook.
SPEAKER_03She's the best cook.
SPEAKER_01Then she, but Emily wants her to cook uh for her. Wants Megan to cook for her.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I was like, okay, but you have to help clean up.
SPEAKER_03Oh no. So then Emily never cleans up after dinner. She somehow No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01What she does, this is what she does. She acts like she's helping cook.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. She caught like four strawberries.
SPEAKER_01First off, she's like, okay, I'll cook the chicken. Goes out there to turn on the grill. Does, and then I go look at it five minutes later. She didn't even turn on the grill. She just like turned the temperature to the right. It's like three nine or four.
SPEAKER_03But she didn't hit like ignite.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she didn't hit ignite. Grill wasn't even wrong. Then she's like, How do we even cook this chicken? And so she's like, should I just like take it out of the package and put it on the grill? I was like, oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03She wasn't gonna marinate. Even I know you have to like marinate it.
SPEAKER_01I think she was playing dumb to make it so like I would do it. You know what I mean? Like she was very calculated with that. So then I was like, okay, cut the strawberries. Megan asked her to rinse the strawberries. Couldn't even do that.
SPEAKER_03Well, because me and Megan like to rinse our strawberries in vinegar. Yeah. We'll like mix vinegar and water and let them sit for a few minutes and then rinse them off and then cut them.
SPEAKER_01No, it was like she needed a recipe.
SPEAKER_03And Emily's like, we what? How do you do that? Wait, what? No, they're gonna taste like vinegar if you do that. It's like, no, they don't. That's why you rinse them off with water after.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So then it just gets all like the gross like dirt and bugs off.
SPEAKER_01She pretended to cook, would just go back and forth between watching Michael Jackson. Because she also turned that on.
SPEAKER_03We were watching the Michael movie, which it's so good. And then she would scream with the leg.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. So bat. Like it's insane.
SPEAKER_03But like he moves his leg like left and then right, and she just like brings her leg like straight up. She's like please stop.
SPEAKER_01Like when you do that sound, it truly like sends rage through my body.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's so funny.
SPEAKER_01Because she did it at least a hundred times.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it was never good. Or she does the it just I yeah.
SPEAKER_02So funny.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, she pretended to cook, screamed the entire time Michael Jackson. And she does it so loud. She does it so loud.
SPEAKER_03So loud. Like she can really project.
SPEAKER_01And then eats and didn't clean up one thing.
SPEAKER_03And then she's like, okay, I gotta go, guys. Gotta get the girls in bed.
SPEAKER_01It's 7:30.
SPEAKER_03Literally, Capri's like, I'm gonna go hang out with my friends. And we were like, okay.
SPEAKER_01So anyway, she yeah, she finessed us all. Well, Megan and I. Yeah. So that was fun. Anyway, so that's why I have barbecue sauce. Do you want do you want some?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'll just save it for later. Um anyway, so then that on top of your seeing the cheetah girls, I took a painkiller, just some painkillers before this to help.
SPEAKER_03Because like Advil or like big stuff?
SPEAKER_01No, not big stuff. I don't even have any big stuff. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, tonight's been a night. You're so so entertaining.
SPEAKER_03Well, in my defense, I listened to most of Cheetah Girls when you were gone. The only song I sang for you was Amiga's Cheetahs from the second album, and that's the last song on the album.
SPEAKER_01You sang for at least 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_03No, I sang for like two.
SPEAKER_01I literally almost choked you out.
SPEAKER_03Well it was amazing though. Have you ever like genuinely have you ever seen Cheetah Girls?
SPEAKER_01I remember seeing the commercials on Disney Channel.
SPEAKER_03Because how old are you? 31. Let's see. When did Cheetah Girls come out?
SPEAKER_01Cheetah Girls was out when I was young. I just never watched it. Like I was never interested in watching Cheetah Girls. Hannah Montana, on the other hand, absolutely watched her.
SPEAKER_03What year did Cheetah Girls come out? 2003. So I was I was five.
SPEAKER_01Did you just count eight, nine, zero?
SPEAKER_03Like nine, like ninety-nine. 2000. So zero. Okay. One, two, three. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01Um, you were five when it came out.
SPEAKER_03And that is me watching Cheetah Girls, I became obsessed. Hence Chee Chi because I was so obsessed with Cheetah Girls. Then my aunt made me Chee Chi because I wanted a Cheetah blanket.
SPEAKER_01You still sleep with to this day. Which, like a five-year-old.
SPEAKER_03That's my girl.
SPEAKER_01My girl. So give me your top three shows from New York Kid.
SPEAKER_03Well, shows are movies.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Like Disney Channel originals?
SPEAKER_01Like Disney Channel. Disney Channel can be Disney Channel or Nickelodeon.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Cheetah Girls. Wait, shows or movies?
SPEAKER_01Just your top three productions of Disney Channel or Nickelodeon. Because I think mine are gonna be shows, and I think yours might be more movies.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Cheetah Girls.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Zoe 101.
SPEAKER_01Zoe 101 was good. She was hot.
SPEAKER_03And high school musical.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I refuse to ever watch high school musical.
SPEAKER_03Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_01That was just missing out. Blasphemy to the game of basketball.
SPEAKER_03High school music. Straight blasphemy. Who says we have to let it go? That's dance to the music.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_03That's not the right words, but that's like the closing song.
SPEAKER_01Everyone hears what I'm I deal with.
SPEAKER_03The closing song in High School Musical 3 when they graduate.
SPEAKER_01That show. Yeah. Anyway, okay.
SPEAKER_03I feel like you would like it because you're like a basketball player.
SPEAKER_01No, I just said that's blasphemy to the game of basketball. That was so dumb.
SPEAKER_03I thought it was good.
SPEAKER_01Singing a musical while playing basketball? You think I'm gonna think that's he was he was so torn.
SPEAKER_03It's like he loves basketball, but he also has a really good voice.
SPEAKER_01It's like tough, tough life. And he has I and like the problem was I'd watch it and I was like, wow, he sucks really bad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's not a basketball player.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. So it's like you can't, it's tough to watch.
SPEAKER_03No, he had the most epic, hottest crash out.
SPEAKER_01Hottest crash out? What does that mean?
SPEAKER_03Hottest crash out because he doesn't know what to do.
SPEAKER_01What does that mean? What's a hot crash out?
SPEAKER_03Like he's having a crash out, like he is like have like kind of like looking at having him at TV, but he looks so hot while he's doing it. Was and he's like singing and dancing with the city.
SPEAKER_01Was he your biggest crush?
SPEAKER_03Push-up. Troy Bolton when I was growing up. Yeah, or Jesse from Hannah Montana, the dark hair. Not Jake.
SPEAKER_01I didn't, I wasn't Team Jake, I was Team Hannah Montana was my crush growing up.
SPEAKER_03Hannah Montana is like right there with high school musical. It's hard for me to pick. Because the Hannah Montana movie, top tier. I still will watch that when I'm bored sometimes.
SPEAKER_01I don't think I can't remember the movie, but I loved Miley Cyrus.
SPEAKER_03Well, why how did you not watch Hannah Montana the movie? Because then it like they go back to Tennessee, like where she came from where she came from when she goes, Hello, New York, off her private jet. And she's like in the middle of Tennessee, and there's like a cow and his like your ability to quote movie lines is pretty good.
SPEAKER_01I'm not, I will give that to you. Yeah. Because I do not remember anything like that. But I loved Ham Montana, never watched the movie. Okay, my top three though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I go.
SPEAKER_01Ned's declassified.
SPEAKER_03I did love Neds.
SPEAKER_01So good. Mm-hmm. Drake and Josh.
SPEAKER_03Drake and Josh was good.
SPEAKER_01And.
SPEAKER_03Did you ever watch Victorious?
SPEAKER_01No, I never got into that one.
SPEAKER_03That one's good.
SPEAKER_01Isn't that where what's her name came from?
SPEAKER_03Uh um Victoria Justice.
SPEAKER_01And Ariana Grande.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's where Ari, yeah. Victoria Justice was on Zoe 101.
SPEAKER_01That's right. And then she switched over.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then I don't want to say Hannah Montana because we already watched, I mean, already talked about that, but Sweet Life of Zack and Cody was weird.
SPEAKER_03I love it. Did you ever play the Sweet Life of Zack and Cody game on the computer?
SPEAKER_01No, I wasn't a nerd like you.
SPEAKER_03You didn't ever go play like the Disney Channel games on the computer?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Like Disney Channel.com and you can play the games?
SPEAKER_01I never played video games and like never allowed.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh. I freaking balled out playing the game where they're in the it's like the hotel hallway, and you can like go up and down the elevators and you have to not get caught by an adult. I freaking crushed at that game.
SPEAKER_01Honestly makes sense.
SPEAKER_03And you have to like hit the arrows.
SPEAKER_01Probably where your like sneakiness came from.
SPEAKER_03Sneakiness? I'm not sneaky. I can't keep a secret from you guys. Save my life.
SPEAKER_01You're not sneaky.
SPEAKER_03No. How am I sneaky?
SPEAKER_01Just memor memorizing credit card numbers like it's nothing.
SPEAKER_03Uh well, that's not sneaky. That's just a talent. It's not sneaky because everybody knows that I do it.
SPEAKER_01That's true. That's true. I mean, I'll give that to you. So anyway, that's funny. Good times.
SPEAKER_03The best times. Disney Channel, like in like the early 2000s.
SPEAKER_01Zoe 101. I'm just like Unbeatable. I used to like dream about that school. I was like, early Nickelodeon was good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I that was my dream school with the little sidekicks that they flip up.
SPEAKER_01I had one. Okay, cute. I had a sidekick. That was cool. But um jealous. And then what was the it was like Chase and Logan.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Logan was like the dumb one, and Chase was the one.
SPEAKER_03Rejected, rejected. Yeah, you just got rejected. R E J C No, how do you smell rejected? Yeah, you just got rejected when they lose the bet and they have to be his cheerleaders, and he tries to go hit on a girl, Logan.
SPEAKER_01Uh, I don't remember all of it, but classic episode. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_03The Vespas that they would ride around.
SPEAKER_01Didn't they try to remake Zoe 101 or like something?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I feel like I think they I can't remember. I can't remember. Maybe they did. I don't know. I swallowed it.
SPEAKER_01Um all right. Anyway, that was a long tangent on our favorite TV shows growing up. I wonder if like I feel like we're missing some good ones though. So people remember some of them.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I loved like Kim Possible.
SPEAKER_01Kim Possible is good.
SPEAKER_03Such a good one. Come beat me if you even Stevens, speaking of Kim Possible.
SPEAKER_01Wait, that's top. That's even Stevens.
SPEAKER_03Wizards of Wizard Wizards of Waverly Place. So good.
SPEAKER_01Unreal. So good. That one's a top, top one. Um I never gotten a Wizards like Waverly Place. The magic was a little too weird for me.
SPEAKER_03That was good. It was good. Um and the movie was good too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_03But the reboot, not good.
SPEAKER_01I didn't even know they rebooted it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they tried to do a reboot like a couple years ago and it sucked.
SPEAKER_01Um anyway, what are the updates? What's going on? What happened this week?
SPEAKER_03Um, just been riding lots and lots of horses.
SPEAKER_01I went down Wait, what do you mean lots and lots of horses? I thought you were just riding like one that you like want to buy.
SPEAKER_03I've been I've been going and looking at all different horses this week.
SPEAKER_01Oh, right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Not just the old one, not just the grand grandmother.
SPEAKER_03Okay, she's not a grandmother. She's 14. It's not even that old.
SPEAKER_01That's like saying you're not old. I'm just kidding. Sorry. That was me.
SPEAKER_03Some people would say that I'm still a baby. Like outside of Utah.
SPEAKER_01I know. I like to give you hard time. I agree.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Anyway. So drove two hours to see the 14-year-old. Then I looked at I looked at one again that I saw a couple weeks ago. I'm going to look at one tomorrow. Then I just also like had like my standard lessons, like today and on Tuesday.
SPEAKER_01And did we break 10 miles an hour yet?
SPEAKER_03Well, no, because like usually in my lessons, I'm not like running barrels because what are they teaching you then?
SPEAKER_01Like, walk me through a lesson because I'm like, what's happening? Are they just like stringing you out to get more money out of you?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. They're teaching me how to handle horses. So, like the horse that I rode today, her name's Pip. And she they bought her as a lesson horse, and she was supposed to be kid safe.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Not kid safe. Like today, when I was grooming her, I was brushing her tail. And normally, I mean, and I know people are gonna freak out at me for saying this because it's not that safe, but normally I just like stand directly behind them and just like brush out.
SPEAKER_01I even know that's a no-no.
SPEAKER_03Well, if you have like a broke horse that's not gonna set back, it's usually fine.
SPEAKER_01But what is a broke horse?
SPEAKER_03Trained, yeah, like they're they're just not gonna do anything bomb proof, essentially.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_01Why do you like crazy phrases here?
SPEAKER_03No, it's just like anything, like nothing phases them. Okay, they're just like uh, you know. So that's how they bought her, but then they quickly realize, like, oh, she's not kid safe. She's like not a beginner horse, like only somebody who like knows how to handle a tough horse can get on her. So I'm brushing her tail and I'm like standing to the side for how because I wasn't tied up in like the normal spot. I was tied up like off to the side. And something I don't know what spooked her, but something spooked her and she set back and then she like kind of like reared up and she snapped her halter and lead rope. And I was like, girl, and then she just stood there. I'm like, because normally, like, if a horse does that and they get spooked or like they'll run off.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03And she just like after she snapped the lead rope, she just stood there. So I grabbed her halter and I was like, dude, like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_01Do horses scare you at all anymore?
SPEAKER_03No, like when she did that, I was just like, I was like, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? What's going on? It's okay. And I was like petting her neck and I was like, it's okay, it's okay. But like, no, that didn't scare me.
SPEAKER_00That would scare me. I'm a baby.
SPEAKER_03It would scare me if I was standing behind her and she did that. Luckily, I was to the side.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But anyway, so like today, so that kind of she just she's very unpredictable, and that's why she's not kid safe. That's why she's not very beginner safe because you don't really know what she's gonna do. Yeah. So you don't want to put a little kid on her. So we went up to the big arena, is what we call it. And she has this really bad habit of when she's loping in the arena and she sees the gate, she wants to take off and then stop right in front of the gate because she just wants to go back to her stall or like go out in the pasture. She doesn't want to work.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_03And so we were sounds like someone I know. So we worked on that, on like getting her to lope nicely and collected and not being rude and not tossing her head. She still kind of tosses her head, but like every horse has its cork. It's never gonna be perfect. But we got her, so like me, I was working on like really keeping her, like not diving out towards the gate.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03So it was good for me because it it makes you as a rider like be really, really balanced and you have to steer a lot with your leg to keep her like in between your legs. And then, yeah, so it's just good to be on a horse that's not predictable. And then, like, we were in this one corner, and for some reason she was so scared of this one corner. So then it's like, okay, you're fine. You could you have to like work her up to like get the courage to like just even go stand next to the corner. So it's good for me to know like how to handle that. If I get a horse that ever spooks or does something, it's like you want you want to be able to handle anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So in a way, okay, so once you get a horse though, because in a way you're kind of like doing this and you're losing progress because it's not your horse. So you're just like kind of doing it to learn how to handle that. So then once you get your own horse though, then you'll like be able to train it. So you won't have to like repeat doing these things. Does that make sense? You know what I mean? Yes. Because in a way, you're training another horse or helping another horse.
SPEAKER_03Yes, but because I'm also, I mean, my trainers hate when I say this because I say I'm a beginner and they're like, You're not a beginner. They would never throw a beginner on the horse that I rode today. But I just feel like you can always learn. Like, I know nothing, and I've never really been on a horse that is that unpredictable. And so it's also really good training for me in case if I'm on, say I'm on a trail or I'm in a new arena and my horse spooks, or she's tied up on the trailer and she spooks, like it's good for me to know how to handle it. So it's also training for me. I'm not just like training their horse because like they don't want to do it or like they don't know what else to do with me. Yeah, it's good training for me. And so when I get my horse, the horse that I'm gonna get will already be trained. So I want to finish horse. So then it's me who needs training, and that's why I'm kind of leaning towards more of like an older horse because I want a horse that can teach me.
SPEAKER_01But like you've already learned a lot.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you you never stop learning.
SPEAKER_01Well, I get that.
SPEAKER_03Like even my even my trainers, like they still take lessons or they'll still go to like clinics or like they still get trained themselves.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't know. I just think you're so yourself short. I mean sometimes you gotta get just thrown into the fire.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, and that's why I'm buying a horse because I'm like I I am to the point where it's like, okay, like I do like want that next step. And the next step is getting horse.
SPEAKER_01How old were the ones you the other ones that you looked at?
SPEAKER_03Um, the one is eight years old.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03Um that's good. Six and then 14.
SPEAKER_01You know my feelings.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01When are you gonna make a decision though?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I'm I'm not in a rush.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's no rush.
SPEAKER_03There's no rush.
SPEAKER_01But you were supposed to be in the draper rodeo this year, so I mean, yes, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_00Next year.
SPEAKER_03Next year. And maybe if I get a horse in the next like month, I can try to get into the alpine rodeo. Because that's not till August. But that's why I want that's why like an older horse, like 10, 13, 14, would be good because it's then it's just kind of like she knows exactly what to do. And at that point, it's she's kind of just like point and shoot, and she'll go as fast or as slow as you want. And then you kind of just sit there and hold on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's true. You might need that though, because I don't know if you're gonna ever push the horse to go fast.
SPEAKER_03I would rather have a push-style horse where it's like you're like really, really encouraging it to go faster than a horse that is crazy and when it sees a pattern, it just wants to sprint off. And you can't you can't get it back down. I don't want a horse like that.
SPEAKER_01Maybe you need that.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm I'm not ready for that. That's maybe my next horse. Maybe. Yeah, I really gotta just pace. I really gotta step it up.
SPEAKER_01That's why you see to just go for it.
SPEAKER_03But anyway, well, this horse, she can freaking fly. Like, she's fast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's gonna be able to fly for two more years.
SPEAKER_03No, she's old.
unknownOh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03Don't act like you even know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01I just love to push your buttons with this.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, enough about the horsies.
SPEAKER_01Are you a little annoyed? Have you been a little mad at me this week?
SPEAKER_03No, I just I feel bad because like I could I could sit here and talk about it for hours. Oh, I know. And days. But I just feel like people get bored.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so I'm like, okay, we can stop talking about it now.
SPEAKER_01Okay. But I just feel like you got mad at me this week. Or some at one point you were you s you you seem pretty annoyed with me.
SPEAKER_03I wasn't annoyed with you. I mean, I'm annoyed that you're leaving, but like I get it.
SPEAKER_01You're not annoyed at that.
SPEAKER_03I just don't want you guys to leave. I want you guys to stay here forever.
SPEAKER_01You want Megan, the boys.
SPEAKER_03No, I I like when you're all here. I like when we hang out.
SPEAKER_01Sure. Um But I did feel like you were annoyed. I can't remember what day it was. I can't remember what I did. I just remember that you were kind of like short with me. And I was like, hmm, okay, Amy's annoyed. I'll leave her alone.
SPEAKER_03No, I would tell you if I was annoyed.
SPEAKER_01Whatever. Whatever you say. Um also this today we got a delivery of sweatshirts.
SPEAKER_03Ooh, did we? Yes. Are they downstairs or where did they get delivered?
SPEAKER_01Downstairs.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna go look at them.
SPEAKER_01So I want to see you give away, I think it's four or five. So we need to figure out what we're gonna do. Yeah. And if people actually won't still want them.
SPEAKER_03You know who really, really, really wants one?
SPEAKER_01Who?
SPEAKER_03Jared, the guy who does our sourdough. He's texted me like five times about it.
SPEAKER_01Is he gonna be our official sponsor of the podcast and just give us some sourdough?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I don't know if I can eat that. Oh, we should do it.
SPEAKER_03He does kamut. Can you have camute? It's so we it triggers it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because she says, like Food Nanny says, even if you're celiac, camut, people who are celiac can have kamute and not like get sick or whatever.
SPEAKER_00I'll have to try it.
SPEAKER_03Um, but he does camute sourdough.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, I should try that.
SPEAKER_03Or maybe I'll ask him. I'll say, you can have a sweatshirt if you can do a gluten-free sourdough.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if you can. Uh I mean, we could try, but we could try the camute. Let's do the camot one.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't want to like trigger anything.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's like at this point, too, I'm like, I'm already getting a migraine all the time. So is the gluten.
SPEAKER_03Are you still getting it daily?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is it worse here than it was in Virginia or is it the same?
SPEAKER_00Same.
SPEAKER_03Um I hope it gets better. Oh, oh, I was gonna. I saw this place on TikTok. Um, it's this new restaurant. I I wanted you to go try.
SPEAKER_01It's a new restaurant, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03And it's like super, super clean.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what is it?
SPEAKER_03It's called.
SPEAKER_01I need to lose like 20 pounds. How about if I lose 20 pounds, you like buy me something as a reward? You know?
SPEAKER_02What the heck would I buy you?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I see like I'm on the type that has to have some sort of motivation. Usually it's like we're going on a trip. Like when we went to Hawaii, that was easy.
SPEAKER_03If you lose 20 pounds, we'll go to Hawaii.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. I'm saying like when Megan and I went to Hawaii. That was like the motivation to lose weight. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So I was like, I always need like a little goal.
SPEAKER_03It's in Orim next to the Costco.
SPEAKER_01Alright, well, I'm not going to Orem. That's a little far.
SPEAKER_03It's called like urban something. New restaurant.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Or um.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, we needed to do some sort of giveaway.
SPEAKER_02Um, that's not it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. We're good. We can find it after. You know. Um, anything else going on? That you care to share?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Nothing.
SPEAKER_02Not a thing.
SPEAKER_01Not one thing.
SPEAKER_02Not one thing.
SPEAKER_01You're so boring.
SPEAKER_03Maybe next week.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03We'll have something better other than Chrisina.
SPEAKER_01Um, I was gonna ask. What do you actually how can I say this without giving away, but like how much input do you like from people on who you go out with?
SPEAKER_03Like strangers on the internet or like you guys?
SPEAKER_01Like family.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I like it.
SPEAKER_01It's never too much. I know we've talked about this a lot, but like it it can.
SPEAKER_03It I just feel like it depends on the situation. Like right now, I know what you're thinking, and like, yeah, it's too much because today I felt like uh maybe it was a little much. No, not no, today wasn't bad.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03It's like after, you know, the first time. And I was like, okay, you guys don't even like know anything.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's when it gets that's when it's frustrating to me because I'm like, you've literally never even seen this person on the street.
SPEAKER_01Would you rather have them or me or anybody be more like that's amazing? You should like you are you in love, blah blah blah. Or would you have rather have someone be more like skeptical, like asking questions, questioning? You know what I mean? Like what gets to you more? Because I feel like does one push you away, like oh, you should be in love with them, and I feel like that kind of causes you shut down, or is a skeptical kind of get in your head?
SPEAKER_03I don't know, because I'm already kind of skeptical. Uh-huh. Just about anybody in general, just in general, about anything. Yeah, true, like literally anything I'm skeptical about.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_03And it's funny because I used to not be like that. Like, I remember when I was like in high school being like talking to Shannon and be like, oh my gosh, you're so cynical. Like nobody's out to get you. Like, but like truly, the older I get, the more I'm like, oh no, like I'm not, I'm not cynical enough. Like Shannon was right. Like people like really do things that like don't have good intentions. And so now I just am like, oh, Shannon was right. Shannon was right about everything. Like anytime I had any issues with friends or boys or anything, and she would say something, and I was like, Oh my gosh, like you're always so cynical. Yeah, you're just like thinking the worst. And it's like, no, it's because she has the life experience that you don't have in high school or college or whatever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And she just lived longer life. Like the longer you live, the more you know.
SPEAKER_00That is true.
SPEAKER_03And so sometimes I don't know. I feel like it needs to be a good balance. Like it, I I do like when somebody's like, okay, like maybe you're being too cynical or too skeptical, and like you just like need to chill, and like until something happens, like don't like worry about something that hasn't happened yet. But then I also like when people are like, no, like I kind of get why, like that would cause you to like pause or like give you a stupor, if you will.
SPEAKER_01I mean, for me, with you, it's just the way I am. I'm always taking the other side of things. I don't know why. I don't know why I do that. I just I just don't try I'm always like I want to see both sides of things. And because I think some people get caught up so much on just like seeing one side, they romanticize it. And wait, it doesn't matter what it is. Like in when we talk about on here, it's like there's always two sides to everything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So do you like when I'm clear on the other side, like questioning things?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I I like I like a mix because if it was all just like one side, like I feel like that's what happened last year when they were all just like on one side.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I was I felt like I was like on an island alone and I like couldn't say anything because I was like I wasn't like I'd be even involved in that whole situation. Yeah, no, you weren't because you guys were gone, but I was like scared, like, oh well, like if I say something, like they're all gonna yell at me.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so I do like to have both.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I like there to be a balance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Sometimes I just I don't know. I I don't know. Sometimes uh I don't know if I'm coming in too strong, you know.
SPEAKER_03No, I don't think you I don't think you're at the same time.
SPEAKER_01Because I sometimes feel like it's like so many like people against you with not much other perspective sometimes. Yeah, it's all that's all coming from like a good place though. Like everyone's just very happy, excited. Yes, and I'm always kind of like, all right, let's come back down to earth. But yeah, anyway, we've talked enough about your dating in every episode.
SPEAKER_03We really like we're so vague about that. People are gonna be like, what the F are they talking about?
SPEAKER_01I don't think so. I think they'll be able to follow it. It wasn't as vague as you think.
SPEAKER_03I feel like that was that's the most vague we've ever been, I feel like.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we can be more detailed if you want.
SPEAKER_03I mean, no, no, I I liked it. I don't want to be any.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I I'm not the one that's trying to get all of your dating history out here, but yeah, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01These aren't naming names.
SPEAKER_03No, no, we don't need to call anybody out.
SPEAKER_01So, what happened with that DM from last week though?
SPEAKER_03Nothing. He left me on read.
SPEAKER_01That one actually should we check it. Genuinely piss me off.
SPEAKER_03Should we see how long it's been?
SPEAKER_01Genuinely pissed me off.
SPEAKER_03No, like it actually like it crushed me a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. Seen last week. Oh that's like and I'm still just sitting in his requests.
SPEAKER_01Like, what the heck?
SPEAKER_03Like, that is devastating to me.
SPEAKER_01I don't get it. But on to the next, yeah, that's all you can do. On to the next one. I don't understand.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But everything's happen happens for a reason. The blinders, it's all to the right person.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Heavenly Father said don't respond to her.
SPEAKER_01Yep. All getting you ready for the right person.
SPEAKER_03He put a block on his mind.
SPEAKER_01I truly feel like you're gonna find the person in Dallas.
SPEAKER_03I hope so. I really do.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's kind of mean to say. But I'm talking about for me, like my side. I think Dallas is gonna be the spot.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01There's gonna be a lot more people for you to meet.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01But are you actually gonna come down there?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And are you gonna go to this like singles wars and stuff by yourself?
SPEAKER_03Oh no, that's a I told Megan she has to come with me to the first one.
SPEAKER_01You need to have like one Sunday where you just drive to like four of them.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's only one.
SPEAKER_01No, there's a couple. There's one where we live, there's one. Oh, I just searched like Dallas. Yeah, there's there's probably four or five.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. Yeah, I just searched Dallas.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So you gotta hit them all. And then get on hinge, get swiping.
SPEAKER_03I need to like email the bishop or something. And like have him like give me a few names of girls.
SPEAKER_01Oh, are they a few names of guys?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, a few names of girls, and like we can become like friends on Instagram, and then I'll be like, oh hey, like there is a girl from business school that she knows you or like maybe knew you guys been friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That she's gonna be in Dallas.
SPEAKER_03So you guys But I thought you said she's married.
SPEAKER_01No, she's single.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I thought you said that she got married.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_01She's single.
SPEAKER_03And she'll go to the wards. Yeah. Oh, then there we go. Then you can go. We'll go together. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Do it. That'll be good. Um, what's going on in my life?
SPEAKER_03Ugh, you leave in two days.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I leave. That's gonna suck.
SPEAKER_03I just I don't want you good to go.
SPEAKER_01So last summer I did the same thing where I would you guys or the boys in Megan stayed here, and I'd fly back every weekend. And I thought I was gonna be done with that forever. And I'm last summer. This is what is it?
SPEAKER_03Like, it's a total of like what, like six weeks doing it?
SPEAKER_01I bet it's gonna be closer to like 10, depending on how quickly the house goes. But I'm just expecting it to be longer and hoping it comes in sooner.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01If it's six weeks, that'd be amazing, but houses always take longer.
SPEAKER_03Let's see, when is six weeks from now?
SPEAKER_01Six weeks would be like first week of August.
SPEAKER_03One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. End of July. The 30th, July 30th.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't think it'll be six weeks.
SPEAKER_03Seven, eight is August 13th.
SPEAKER_01Like, I'm excited to get going with my life again since I've just been like, it feels like I've been doing nothing for two years. I haven't, but that's what it kind of feels like. And uh, and have a paycheck. I need a paycheck so bad, so bad. But um it's just depressing being away from Megan and the boys. Yeah. Like I know Megan always says this to me how, and I hope this is not the case, but with some people, how husbands love to be away from their kids. You know what I mean? Like they love going to work and don't have to like do anything with their kids. I don't get it. I don't know how people do that. Like, I'm going to be, I love to hang out with the boys. Yes, do I get mad at them? Yeah, all the time, but it's gonna make me like so sad and depressed to be away from them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like some husbands are like I could never like stay at home all day, like with my wife and kids. Like it like drives them crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I love it. We especially this last three, four months, because I didn't have much schoolwork because I was pretty much done. I finished up all my requirements and stuff. I would just go golfing with the boys, go fishing every day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys had a really fun routine.
SPEAKER_01It was the best couple months of my life for sure. And now it's like all coming to an end. And the hardest part is it's I'm not even gonna see them at the end of the day of the work. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that is gonna be really rough. It's just going to a depressing hotel and sitting there by myself.
SPEAKER_03Are you staying in a hotel? Are you gonna stay like on an air mattress?
SPEAKER_01First week will be a hotel for sure. Probably the second the second week, too. And then I hope like the electrical and the plumbing will be done, and then I'll be able to put like a twin mattress on the ground. I'll just sleep on that. Cross my fingers. We'll see. Yeah. But still, that's still so depressing being in this freaking house that's like a construction zone. I'm just like sleeping on a twin mattress.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01With dust everywhere.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, maybe just like stay in a hotel close to work because then you don't have to drive.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, it's gonna be that's so expensive. Yeah. And that is actually s even more depressing. The hotels are so rough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't like them. I mean, I I love going with like on a trip, but when you're staying there, like last year, I was in a hotel for 10 weeks straight.
SPEAKER_03That was Was the staff like, hey buddy? No, like you know you buy my.
SPEAKER_01I would jump around each week. Oh, so you switched hotels a couple times, but I wasn't staying in nice hotels, like I stayed in the cheapest, like little Marriott properties possible. So I was in just like I think a town place suites is where I was most of the time, and it was not fun, not fun at all. Yeah. So that's why I'm like a little not excited today. Because I'm we just know what's happening, the countdown is on, and I'm gonna be depressed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I'll I mean it's gonna be fun though. It'll be great. I'm grateful for a job.
SPEAKER_03What's going on with the house update?
SPEAKER_01House nothing major this week. I did sign the contract for a fence.
SPEAKER_03That's good. So what fence did you guys decide end up on?
SPEAKER_01We're doing like a ranch style cross buck, I think that's what it's called. Pretty, and it'll be six feet tall with no climb wire on the inside. So it's good because it'll give the lady visibility. So when she drives, she'll be able to see. She'll still be able to see, like hopefully on the driveway a little bit, even though we'll always have it closed. Say they're out there with us, you know, riding their bikes, she'll still be able to see that. And then it's gonna be gated, I mean, fence all the way around. They'll be not be able to get out. And I'm gonna feel a lot better with that being done before they get there. Yeah. And then it'll look great when we get chickens. It's gonna really gonna match the vibe.
SPEAKER_03I am so excited for you to get chickens.
SPEAKER_01Do you really think we will though?
SPEAKER_03Did you ever watch the TikTok when it was like POV, your brother-in-law came home with a thousand chickens? No, I sent it to you and Megan.
SPEAKER_01Literally, I can't watch TikToks.
SPEAKER_03Thousand chickens.
SPEAKER_01What do you do with a thousand? You have to get that's like a farm everywhere.
SPEAKER_03I was like, uh.
SPEAKER_01I kind of feel bad for the chickens. Like, are they gonna be able to take care of that many?
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah. They had like a massive barn, so okay.
SPEAKER_01I think we'd go with four. Every time I just look at my barbecue sauce. Um, but I'm actually really excited for them if we get them.
SPEAKER_03Do you think you will ever get a rooster?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03So that then you can have like little baby chicks and then raise them from the time they're babies.
SPEAKER_01So I've heard a couple things about roosters because we've talked to a good amount of people about this now. The roosters can be pretty mean, but they actually keep the hands in order because there's like, you know, they talk about the pecking order. They say that's very real, and they will pick out the ones that like the other hands will pick one up uh pick on one and all that other stuff. But the roosters also like to pick their favorite lady, and you know, I've seen chickens go at it, and it's it's kind of rough.
SPEAKER_03A cock fight?
SPEAKER_01No. I mean, yes, a different type of cockpit.
SPEAKER_03No, that's what they're called.
SPEAKER_01No, no.
SPEAKER_03Like when the roosters fight each other.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm talking about the rooster um getting it on with his lady.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about them fighting.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. He picks out his lady, and that's who he likes to be with, and he attacks her, pretty much, but stinks his claws in the back, pins her down.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01That's what happens.
SPEAKER_03Like barbaric.
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you want to know what's so different about that? I feel like a lot of animals, it kind of happens that way where you're like, oh, like, I don't know how consensual that is.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_03But with horses, going back to the horses.
unknownOh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03It's opposite. Not not opposite, but like when a mare is in heat, which is so it's like the hell does that mean? So like when a girl horse is like ovulating almost, okay, or like on her period, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03They call it like, and if she sees like a horse that she likes, like a stallion, or like usually not gelding. Well, sometimes gildings.
SPEAKER_01Throw that thing in front of them.
SPEAKER_03They call it winking. Like the mare is winking at you.
SPEAKER_01What's winking?
SPEAKER_03It's like she'll lift her tail up. Oh my gosh. And it like literally calls her. Zop.
SPEAKER_01Zop.
SPEAKER_03And then and then she's like, so then she's like inviting the horse, and then that's when they do the deed.
SPEAKER_01I like winking is so freaking crazy. In the hand motion.
SPEAKER_06That's what it does.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah, like chickens don't do that.
SPEAKER_03Clearly.
SPEAKER_01No, not at all. When I was in Mozambique, I would see, I mean, on my mission, you'd be like teaching a lesson. I'd because we did it all outside. Everything was always outside. You're sitting on like little lawn chairs sitting in the front of the people's houses. All of a sudden, just a rooster, just a dagging chicken. And you're just like Whereas like teaching a lesson about Jesus and roosters just destroying a poor chicken. Yeah, that happened a lot. So yikes. That's kind of why I don't want a rooster.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay, I can understand that.
SPEAKER_01But maybe we will eventually. And I think in some areas it's it's a like illegal to have a rooster.
SPEAKER_03Oh, does it go against like HOA or something?
SPEAKER_01I mean, we don't have an HOA, but I think the city has certain rules.
SPEAKER_03Um maybe you could just like buy a hen that's already pregnant.
SPEAKER_01I only want four.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01I think we're gonna start with four, and then when they stop laying, so are you gonna buy chicks? Yeah, chicks.
SPEAKER_03And then they'll grow up. You're not just gonna full-blown go buy chickens. No. Okay. Chicks. Okay. That's cute. I like that. Because then you you'll raise them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we'll pick like certain ones that have good eggs and all that stuff. Go get them. I think the boys will love raising them. Because we took Dean to go see some chickens and he he held one. He loved them.
SPEAKER_03Dean loves animals. He is he loves all animals.
SPEAKER_01I feel so bad that he's allergic.
SPEAKER_03He's so allergic.
SPEAKER_01To well, to dogs.
SPEAKER_03Anything with hair.
SPEAKER_01I'm one of those I want. It's kind of crazy.
unknownWhat are you gonna say?
SPEAKER_01And I think Dean will love it. But I'm hoping because of their type of hair, he'll be okay.
SPEAKER_03What are you gonna say?
SPEAKER_01A mini sheep.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I thought you were gonna say like a golden doodle.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no, no. I was like, he's allergic to those too. My siblings have those.
SPEAKER_03Have I told you about like my genuine fear of golden doodles?
SPEAKER_01Their eyes.
SPEAKER_03No, they're humans zipped in dog suits.
SPEAKER_01They are kind of creepy looking.
SPEAKER_03Like they they legit give me the hub jeebies. Like whenever I see, especially the big ones. Even the little ones.
SPEAKER_01There are some good-looking ones though. I think they look really good when they're young. They're puppies.
SPEAKER_03They're cute puppies, but they are so scary when they get big and you're like, okay, their eyes freak me out. They like stare into your soul, and you're like, are you like trying to ask me for help? Like to unzip you?
SPEAKER_01Like you're like looking for the zipper on the bottom.
SPEAKER_03No, like some of them genuinely look like humans, and they're so massive, and you're just like, I'm scared.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, um, yeah, a sheep, mini sheep. I think that'd be kind of fun. With wool. Because like I'm sure he's worn a wool sweater before.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you think maybe he want to be allergic to them. That's my hope.
SPEAKER_03You could test it.
SPEAKER_01But no, I think we're gonna do an allergy test first before we actually purchase.
SPEAKER_03Well, no, I was gonna say, like, have him go like to a petting zoo and pet a sheep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Maybe a goat.
SPEAKER_03Goats are cute.
SPEAKER_01No, goats aren't really cute to me, actually.
SPEAKER_03They're really cute babies when they when they get like grown. They're also kind of kind of scary.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And they kind of get aggressive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they'll like ram you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we're just gonna turn into a little farm out in the backyard. I mean, we're gonna have chickens. Get some sheep. There you go.
SPEAKER_03I love it.
SPEAKER_01I love it too.
SPEAKER_03Maybe you could get like miniature ponies.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Let's not go that far. Actually, because Megan's allergic. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Why do we have so many allergies? You guys like really are so allergenic.
SPEAKER_01Like, what's happening with us?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Cause like me with my gluten thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys are just honestly a bunch of that was mean. I'm just kidding. But like it is interesting because like well I actually don't know if Emily and Rachel are allergic to I mean, I was never allergic to anything. Horses and hay like Megan is.
SPEAKER_01Megan is very allergic.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so like if I come into the house and I don't like after a horse lesson and I don't wash my clothes immediately, like she'll like have hives and her eyes will go red.
SPEAKER_01And then I mean Dean is the same way. Yeah. But dogs, it is so bad. Anyway, um, so that's the update on the house. I'm trying to think if there's anything else crazy happening. Um I did call about the septic tank since that was big drama.
SPEAKER_03And I tried to see we find it.
SPEAKER_01We found it, but I also tried to see if we could connect it to the public sewer.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah? Can you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03No, well much.
SPEAKER_01It would be insanely expensive.
SPEAKER_03Like how much?
SPEAKER_01I don't even know.
SPEAKER_03Because you didn't ask.
SPEAKER_01Well, I just talked to like the city engineer.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01And he told me, I guess, because you know, your sewer has to be down, like the gravity is how you get your sewer out into the street. And our house sits level with the bottom of the sewer like pipe. So you'd have to have like a special pump to get it out and yeah, just stick with the septic tank. Yeah, we're screwed. We're screwed.
SPEAKER_03I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a septic tank until you guys moved to Virginia. Because I just thought it was just like all like public sewer, like how it is here.
SPEAKER_01Well, there's even places here that have septic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I didn't know that because like we never had a septic tank. Uh I just like never had to worry about that. You know what else? What I found out maybe like two years ago. What this might be TMI for you. You're not supposed to flush tampons down the toilet.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. Yeah, I had to teach Megan that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I just thought you could flush it down.
SPEAKER_01That is insane.
SPEAKER_03I've I've never not flushed a tampon down a toilet.
SPEAKER_01So that is actually kind of crazy. You are definitely not supposed to flush tampons. Even I knew that.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_01I why do you think they have the little containers in the girl the women's bathrooms?
SPEAKER_03Oh, no, okay. So when I'm in like a public bathroom and it says do not flush feminine products, I don't flush them. I'll put them in the container.
SPEAKER_01But when we get home, it's okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, I just thought that like their plumbing couldn't handle it, but like our plumbing could. Like I thought we had like nicer plumbing or something.
SPEAKER_01Industrial grade plumbing in here.
SPEAKER_03Like, I don't know. I just was like, that's so crazy. Because like when we all started our periods, like that's what Emily did, that's what Rachel did, that's what Megan did. So I just was like, oh okay, I'll flush it.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Like our mom, my mom and dad were never like, okay, no, never. They said never flush a pad down and never flush the applicator.
SPEAKER_01Listen to this.
SPEAKER_03But they never said don't flush the tampon.
SPEAKER_01You're disgusting. Um, I was talking to someone about their septic tank. They were saying they don't even flush the toilet paper down because they want to keep their septic tank good.
SPEAKER_03What do you do with it? Doesn't it just dissolve?
SPEAKER_01That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_03Isn't that what toilet paper is like?
SPEAKER_01But then they put the chemicals in there to like dissolve the toilet paper like a porta potty, you know? That's kind of what a septic tank is. Um but anyway, so they would they take the toilet paper and just put it in the garbage next to them.
SPEAKER_03Wouldn't that like sink? Wouldn't it start to smell like pea and shathid?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Really not.
SPEAKER_03Speaking of shathid, you want to know what Canon said to me the other day.
SPEAKER_01And can you explain what Shatheed is?
SPEAKER_03Canon goes, I finally understand what shatheed is. I was like, oh cool, what is it? And he was like, and I was like, yeah.
SPEAKER_06You're an idiot.
SPEAKER_03No, when I was like in like junior high, me and my friends started saying it because like you can't like walk around saying S-H-I-T head.
SPEAKER_01You guys thought you were so cool.
SPEAKER_03And so we started saying Shatheed. And then it like it became like a funny, like um some girl like on Vine or something, or like Twitter, like made like a song about like Shatheed.
SPEAKER_01You're saying you said it before. I'm you came up with this.
SPEAKER_03I mean and my friends said it in like middle school and like early high school, and then we saw a video and we were like, oh my gosh, like we're not the only ones who say shit. So then, like anytime like anything happens, like you drop your phone, oh Shiteed, or it's like, I gotta go Shahid, be right back. And so Canon was like, I he was like, I know what Shat is, and I was like, Oh, really? What is it? And he was like, I saw it, like texted, he saw it like on his mom's text, and he like read it, and he like it like finally clicked. That's so funny, and he was like, Yeah, I was like, yeah, and he was like Shatid, he like thinks he's so funny.
SPEAKER_01Actually, terrified for my boys become little teenagers or like start getting to his age because they start to like put things together, and I just remember when I was that age, and you just become like your brain only focuses on that stuff all the time, yeah. It's kind of wild.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know what it's like because like I never had brothers, and like girls, I just feel like like I I played Barbies until I was 14 years old.
SPEAKER_01That's insane.
SPEAKER_03So I just like girl raising girls and boys is just like so different.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know Megan is not prepared for that.
SPEAKER_03No, because boys are because like even like and just disgusting, even like on Sunday, like we were asking Capri, because like her some of her friends have like started kissing boys, and we're like, Capri, have you ever kissed anyone? And she's like, Oh my gosh, no, like I have braces on. Not like, oh my gosh, no, I would never, yeah, exactly. My braces are stopping me, yeah, just her braces. And Canon like started laughing so hard, and he was like, You're gonna kiss somebody. And we were like, That's like why it's so funny, but like he was dying laughing, and I was like, I don't get why that's like so funny, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of wild. Like boys, but that age, it's like everything you do has to do with like girls, like going to school, you're going to a locker looking for the girls you're gonna see, you're going into your class, looking at the girls in your course. It's like all the time.
SPEAKER_03Do you get used to it and kind of just tune it out? Or like is there an age where it stops or it just never stops?
SPEAKER_01No, I think as you get into I think as you get into high school, you kind of like maybe stop obsessing over it all the time because it's not like because that's like so new, you know, when it stops becoming so new and like novel, you just like get used to it, then you're like used to it, and so you're not like all the time focusing on it. It's just like here, but it's still it's just like right here in the back of your mind. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of weird. That's crazy. But meanwhile, you're playing with Barbies. I was playing with Barbies and Cheetah Girls at the age of 29.
SPEAKER_03I know, and first of all, I'm 28.
SPEAKER_01Okay, my bad.
SPEAKER_03And second of all, once again, Cheetah Girls is art, especially the second one when they are in Spain. Barcelona. Bartalona.
SPEAKER_00Why do you say it like that?
SPEAKER_03That's how we're supposed to say it. Bartalona. That's how you're supposed to say it. It's like ebita.
SPEAKER_01Bartalona. You just have a lisp.
SPEAKER_03That's how they say it.
SPEAKER_01Who is they?
SPEAKER_03The Spaniards. The I I don't know if they're called like the Barcelona's.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_01There's no TH in it.
SPEAKER_03That is how they say it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, no. No shot. No shot.
SPEAKER_03They don't say Barcelona, they say Barcelona and Ibiza. Because Ibiza is spelled Ibiza, but they say it Ibita.
SPEAKER_01There's no T in it.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01How do Spaniards say pronounce Barcelona? Pronounce Barcelona.
SPEAKER_03You act like I'm not cultured and I am.
SPEAKER_01Bar okay. Barcelona is pronounced like that or Bartalona. In a local language.
SPEAKER_03See.
SPEAKER_01Catalans sound like Barcelona.
SPEAKER_03How do natives pronounce?
SPEAKER_01It depends on who.
SPEAKER_03It's like when people say, like we say Hawaii and people say Hawaii.
unknownYou're a freaking idiot.
SPEAKER_01No, it's just two different kind of like um, it's more like southern people and like Utah's have a major accent. Like mountains and mountains.
unknownThere's always a joke, uh people.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. Barcelona.
unknownIt's not saying like a local Barcelona.
SPEAKER_02Barcelona.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
unknownBarcelona.
SPEAKER_01Ah, there we go, you freaking idiot.
unknownThe name of the city. Barcelona? Barona?
SPEAKER_03Barcelona.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03See Barcelona, and it was the Czech.
unknownBarcelona.
SPEAKER_01I think, yeah, there's there's like two different pronunciations. I guess one is yours. And you sound really bad saying it, so let's keep it.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's because Angel in Cheetah Girls.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03Angels. In the song, he says Bartholona. So I'm going with what Angel is saying.
SPEAKER_01Whatever.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, back to what I was saying about the Cheetah Girls. It's art. And you know what else was art?
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_03The storylines I had for my Barbies. Everyone had a storyline. They were like very versatile.
SPEAKER_01Why are we talking about this?
SPEAKER_03Because I actually think it's kind of interesting. I want to tell you some of my storylines, ready? Kind of morbid now that I'm thinking about it. There was one Barbie that I left out in the sun. Because in our old, old house, we had a pool.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_03And I was like playing like mermaids. And then I left it out in the sun. And so it kind of like ruined her arm. She had like spots, like melted spots. So then her storyline became she got skin cancer.
unknownOh god.
SPEAKER_01Like your memory, the things you remember are insane.
SPEAKER_03No, let me continue.
SPEAKER_01Can't remember anything from school, but you remember this.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. So then another Barbie that I had, she had like weird like blue and purple spots like on her legs and on her arms. So then her storyline was she she was a battered housewife. I was straight up like five with the storyline. Do you have clear?
SPEAKER_01She was a what?
SPEAKER_03She was abused.
SPEAKER_01A battered housewife.
SPEAKER_03A battered.
SPEAKER_01A battered. I think it's an abattered housewife.
SPEAKER_03No, a battered housewife. She had a crazy husband.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03And he was really ugly and mean.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Um, then I had another Barbie who was like our podcast just be storylines we come up with from your Barbies.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So then I had another Barbie.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03And we had like this pioneer dress. So she was a polygamist.
SPEAKER_06Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03And she was like trying to escape. And like the other Barbie friends were like helping escape polygamy.
SPEAKER_01You were five?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And I never switched up the storylines.
SPEAKER_01Like, he was going to like your 10?
SPEAKER_03Until I was like 15. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, sorry. I forgot. You were in freshman high school playing Barbies.
SPEAKER_03And then like the brats, because then I got into brat stalls.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03And they were like the hot new girls on the block. And then like all my Barbies were like jealous of them because all the guys wanted the hot brat girls. And then my scene came into the picture. And the Mycene girls were like, they became like the older version of the Bratstalls. Okay. And so like the Bratzalls were like the teens. And then the Mycene girls were like the older girls who were like dating, and they were like the little sisters who like annoyed the Mycene girls. And then I had a girl, Midge. She could, she had a magnetic pregnant belly. So you could make her pregnant. And she had on this nightgown. And she was always pregnant. Like, poor girl never had a break. And she just that was her storyline. She was just pregnant. And then she would like give birth. So then you take off the baby or like the bump. And then like you'd put the baby in her arms because her arms were like you could move her arms. So then she could hold two babies. She always had twins too, a boy and a girl. And then she could hold her babies. And then she would write back to it. She was pregnant again.
SPEAKER_01This is actually insane.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01How do you remember that?
SPEAKER_03I remember Rachel's one of Rachel's storylines. Actually, I don't remember her storyline, but I remember vividly we had this little, like little boy.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03This little Ken boy. He looked like he was probably like seven.
SPEAKER_01Your storyline's gonna put me to sleep.
SPEAKER_03And he had a bowl cut, and I always wanted him to be like my little boy, but she would never let him be my little boy. It was always her little boy, and you want to know what his name was?
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_03Hogarth. She thought she was like breaking through glass ceilings with that name. And it was always Hogarth every single time.
SPEAKER_01Hogarth sounds like he should be leading with Shrek.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, and that was and she was like, I'm gonna name my little boy Hogarth. Like she thought she like really did something with that. And I remember it vividly because I was always like, the f kind of name is Hogarth.
SPEAKER_01The problem is, I guarantee in five-year-old as you're five, like five-year-old Amy was thinking those exact words.
SPEAKER_03No, I was. And then like I yeah, so back to my battered housewife. She always got saved. Like, I just want everyone to know.
SPEAKER_01She made it through.
SPEAKER_03She always got saved, and her abusive husband went to jail every time.
SPEAKER_01How many times did she get abused?
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_03Well, that was always her storyline. Poor girl. Why else would she have bruises on her? I don't know. Maybe she do you want to know where I got that storyline from?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, maybe she had tattoos.
SPEAKER_03No, she didn't have tattoos because they were like so clearly bruises. That's also why I thought Toy Story was like so real for so long because I was like, no, like we should go see Toy Story. I legit think when I go to bed, this guy is beating up my Barbie. And that's why she is bruises. Why else would a Barbie doll have bruises on it?
SPEAKER_01Just getting abused while you're sleeping.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I felt so bad for her. Anyway, you want to know where I got that storyline from?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Have you ever seen the movie Enough with Jennifer Lopez?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_03She marries this guy, she thinks he's like the best guy. He's so nice, he's so charismatic. They get married, starts abusing her. For some strange reason, me and Megan watched that a lot when we were little.
SPEAKER_01No, you guys watched some interesting shows.
SPEAKER_03That and Moulin Rouge were like our top two favorite movies when we were little. And white chicks. That was like on a solid rotation.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you guys watched some interesting shows. They really shaped you too.
SPEAKER_03No, and they clearly I would it shaped my my storylines.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And you want to know what else I loved?
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_03Desperate Housewives. Have you ever seen Desperate Housewives?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Who do you think I am? No, like I just told you.
SPEAKER_03Every Sunday night, Emily's friend Scott would come over.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03And we would watch Desperate Housewives every Sunday night. And like, mind you, Emily was in high school, so I was six or seven watching Desperate Housewives. And for those of you who have seen Desperate Housewives, you know how crazy that show is to be watching as a six or seven year old. It was my favorite show.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'm not surprised.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, you and Megan should watch it together because I actually think you would like it.
SPEAKER_01Desperate Housewives.
SPEAKER_03It's not like real housewives.
SPEAKER_01Well, how's it better?
SPEAKER_03Because, well, it's a scripted show, so there's like it's not reality TV. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's scripted. It was on ABC, like 3. What the heck is that sound?
SPEAKER_01I feel like the roof is gonna come down here on us.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, it actually is funny and crazy, and I actually think you would like it. I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I will take that in, digest it, and see what comes out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Maybe like on your flight to Dallas, you could like watch episode one.
unknownProbably not.
SPEAKER_01You know what I am watching though?
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_01I wish you had watched. D how do you do it like kind of scary shows?
SPEAKER_03No, I can't do scary shows.
SPEAKER_01Like, what's the scariest show you watch?
SPEAKER_03I couldn't even watch I tried to watch Stranger Things. I got too scary.
SPEAKER_01That was too scary?
SPEAKER_03It gave me weird dreams. I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01I'm watching, I just finished this one show called Widow's Bay.
SPEAKER_03Like how scary.
SPEAKER_01Because like this one, that one's a little more like a lot of haunted stuff.
SPEAKER_03Oh no, no, I can't do haunted stuff. I can do like I like criminal minds.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03I like SBU. I like NCIS. CSI Miami. One of my.
SPEAKER_01And you might watch the other one. But hold on. Let me tell you about Widow Bay.
SPEAKER_03Dexter scared me. I don't like that. I can't watch Dexter.
SPEAKER_01Dexter was too much. It was too much like cutting. Yeah, it was real graphic. Yeah, I didn't like that one. But um, Widow's Bay. It's about this guy. He's the mayor of this island that it's haunted. But he like didn't he just keeps denying that it's haunted. Um, because he wants it to become the next Martha's Vineyard. Because he wants Taurus to come. And so it's all about like how they invite Taurus to come, and then all this haunted stuff starts to happen. But it's the weirdest show because it's scary, but then some of the scary parts are so corny. Oh. Like where this girl's like running away from the boogeyman and he's just like walking and has a knife, and like she's like fake running fast. You know, it's just it's just weird.
SPEAKER_03But did you ever watch American Horror Story?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03I I watched one episode in high school at my friend's house.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03It traumatized me. Oh my gosh. It was no, it was so scary. It was like this clown that like kidnapped children and like killed them.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that would traumatize you.
SPEAKER_03And I was like not good after that.
SPEAKER_01This one's not that scary. Not like that. But anyway, it it like ends the first season of might be a spoiler alert, but the island's like alive and you have to like sacrifice people to like make it happy. Okay, that's it. It was kind of weird. And it ended so odd. Other show though, which I think you should watch, is called Cape Fear.
SPEAKER_02Never heard of it.
SPEAKER_01It is what is it on? Apple TV. Oh. Happening right now. New episode. I think just dropped. Because it's for Friday. Um but it's about this guy who just got, is it called exonerated? When like they're not found guilty while they've already been in prison.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And so he was in prison for like, I don't know, 12 years or something like that. And then, but his lawyer was the one that told him to plead guilty. And then lawyer ended up.
SPEAKER_02Was the lawyer the one that did it?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. But the lawyer was the one uh well, she ended up um marrying the prosecutor. And so they like started having a thing during the trial.
SPEAKER_03And so it was like so then he would like tell him to plead guilty.
SPEAKER_01I don't know what happens yet with all of like there's some secret background of like what happened between the two during the trial, but the guy that gets out of prison is pissed because he was found guilty for killing his wife.
SPEAKER_03But he didn't kill her, and or you don't know for sure if he did or not.
SPEAKER_01And she was pregnant with the baby, so it's like double homicide. Yeah, yeah. And so, but he gets out because he's found innocent because this girl writes a note and then kills herself. Yeah, it was kind of graphic. That was the start of the show, it was pretty graphic.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01It's good though. So did he do it or did he not do it? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03What's your gut telling you? Who did it? What's your prediction?
SPEAKER_01So the okay, so the lawyer and her husband keep talking about like no one knows about this, right? Like, we have to keep it a secret, I can't say anything. So, like, they did something.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. And this reminds me a little bit of a book I read once.
SPEAKER_01Really? And so, like, they did something in collaboration, cahoots, during the trial, and the guy seems to know that they did that because he whispered to in her in her ear of a lawyer that's like I didn't tell anybody what you did. And so, like, and is she like or she's like, what are you talking about? You know? And then, but then like there's weird things that are happening with the guy that got out of prison, and the lawyer's son were like he got his toe cut off because he was drugged, and then he ate the toe. And so, like, and the lawyer thinks that was because of the guy that got out of prison. There's some weird things happening and waiting for all the dots to be connected because it's still early in the show.
SPEAKER_03Is this just the first season?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this is episode there's only three episodes out so far. I honestly think you would like it. It's not too scary.
SPEAKER_03I read a book, this is what it's reminding me of. I read a book, I think it's called The Perfect Marriage, or maybe just the marriage.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03And it's this lawyer, she's like this bade lawyer, uh-huh, criminal defense lawyer. And her husband is put on trial for murdering somebody. And I'm if I'm remembering correctly, I read it so long ago. If I'm remembering correctly, at the beginning, you don't know that it's her husband. You just think that like she's working a case and trying to like get this guy off. And then you like pieces start coming together, and then you realize, like, oh, they're married.
SPEAKER_01And then um there's like one kind of like this on Apple TV.
SPEAKER_03He ends up going to jail for it. Like, she doesn't ever get him off, even though she's like trying. And then at the very end of the book, it all comes together that he was having an affair, and the girl that he was like on trial for murdering was his girlfriend, and it was the attorney, it was his wife, the lawyer, who killed her and framed him for it. And then he's still he went, she sent him to jail.
SPEAKER_01That's kind of similar to have you heard of presumed innocent, very similar. But it ended up being their son that killed the girlfriend that he was having an affair with. Anyway. Interesting. It was really good. You should watch that one too.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I'll watch it if you watch Desperate Housewives.
SPEAKER_01No. Well, why can't we just like come to an agreement on one show that's not like trash TV?
SPEAKER_03It's not trash TV, you know.
SPEAKER_01Desperate Housewives?
SPEAKER_03Okay, you're thinking of like trash, like real housewives of Salt Lake.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03Which amazing. Phenomenal, by the way. Absolute cinema.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Desperate Housewives, though, is so good. You need to watch it. It has Ava Longorian in it.
SPEAKER_01Eva? Or is that Ava?
SPEAKER_03Eva? I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01What what that really is supposed to sell me?
SPEAKER_03Well, she's just like iconic.
unknownOkay, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Whatever. I am I probably want to give that a try, but you should try it with the cake fear. It's so good. Oh, we have a new episode out.
SPEAKER_03Wait, is that the one with the haunted island?
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. That's Widows Bay.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_01I know, they're kind of like similar names. Um Okay. I had a new thing for us to try. Called Whose Responsibility Is It?
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01I want to do some dating questions. Okay. And then for also for marriage. And we're supposed to talk about is it the husband or wife, or is it the boy or girl? Whose responsibility is it to be in the relationship?
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Because I want to hear your opinion.
SPEAKER_02Okay, go.
SPEAKER_01Whose responsibility is it to plan the dates? And does it stay that way after date three?
SPEAKER_03Um okay, I I'm mixed about this.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_03In my opinion, it's whoever asks the person out. So, like, if the guy is like, hey, we should go out, okay, you need to plan the date. If the girl makes the first move and she's like, hey, we should do something.
SPEAKER_01What if the girl says, hey, you should ask me out? You know what I mean? Because that's I feel like that's a common phrase. Because then it's like she's putting it on him.
SPEAKER_03But like she's like, I don't think I've ever said to a guy, you should ask me out. I like I've said we should go out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's okay. So then are you initiating the date there or not?
SPEAKER_03That's a good question. I don't know. I would for the first little while, I think the guy should. And like the girl can give inputs like, oh, we should go do this, we should do this, or whatever, or like, oh, I've always wanted to go do this. And then if the guy hears that, then it's like, okay, remember that. And then plan something. But especially on like a first date, even if the girl makes the first move and is like, hey, you're cute, we should go out. Then the guy is like, I mean, hello, that's like a home run. It's like, okay, yeah, let's let's go to dinner.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't have to be, yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't have to be anything crazy. It's like, yeah, let's let's go to dinner. I'll make us a reservation. How hard is that? The guy should be doing that, especially on the first date.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but then do you feel like then it just falls into that pattern that it always has to be the guy?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to think if Megan ever planned a date. Maybe a couple.
SPEAKER_03Like, the thing is, like, I just feel like we always have something going on, so it's like, oh, like, come come to a BYU game. That could technically be like a planned date. Or like, oh, I have tickets to a rodeo. That's it's considered like a planned date because like you're going to do something that's already planned. I already have the tickets and I'm inviting you to come with me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Or it's like, I can agree with that.
SPEAKER_03Like a lot of times, like me and my friends, like we when we would get tickets to like Morgan Wallen or whoever, we would always buy an extra ticket and be like, hey, everybody has to bring at eight. Yeah. And then we'd ask like the guy, like, hey, do you want to come to Morgan Wallen with me? Yeah, I think that's for a few years and then I gave up.
SPEAKER_01Really worked. Um, I can agree with that.
SPEAKER_03I actually saw a TikTok about this, kind of, and I actually commented on his TikTok and I said, I think I'm in love. Let's see. Comment history.
SPEAKER_01You commented and said, What? That you're in love with him?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I said, I think I'm in love. Are you single? He hasn't responded.
SPEAKER_01You're shooting shots in commons though?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. He said, pregnancy won't be 50-50, birth won't be 50-50, breastfeeding won't be 50-50, the mental load won't be 50-50, postpartum recovery will not be 50-50. Sleepless nights won't be 50-50. The physical changes on her body will not be 50-50. So no, I will not be splitting this date or any future date ever. And I said. Amen, cowboy. Because he's a cowboy look.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, I'm glad he got you with that one.
SPEAKER_03Twenty-three hours ago, I commented.
SPEAKER_01Devastating. I mean, I never made I don't think Megan ever paid for a date. Yeah, never Megan never paid for date or anything.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Um. Okay, next question. Which we just kind of didn't answer that one. Whose responsibility is it to have the what are we text? I mean what are we? Talk, not text.
SPEAKER_03This is also tough. I have mixed feelings about this one too.
SPEAKER_01So I usually feel like girls wait for the guys to bring that up.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01But then guys can be pretty slow to get to that point.
SPEAKER_03This is what I think. From my experience and from like hearing things from my friends. When I always wanted to be like have like the DTR, which is like define the relationship. For those who don't know what that acron acronym is, um it's because like I wanted obviously to date them. Or like it was getting to the point where it's like, okay, we've been talking for six months, like either we're gonna date or like don't talk to me.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you know? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um and so I always would kind of drag my feet and be like, well, like he needs to bring it up, or he needs to, and it's like whoever is feeling like, okay, like I don't want to waste any more time. Like, either we're gonna date or we're not gonna date, needs to bring it up. And especially now that I'm older and all my friends who are still dating, typically it's always the girl bringing it up, and it's always the guy being like, I'm not ready. And then the girl is like, Okay, well, we've been talking for five months, so if you're not ready, then like I can't waste any more time on moving on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And not to get it's not to give them an ultimatum, but it's like if you don't really know after five months if you even want to like be an ex exclusive with them, I think my phone died and I need it. I think there might be a bigger issue. So at that point, the guy is just having, in my opinion, he's just having his cake and eating it too, because he can hang out with you, he can talk to all the other girls. And I don't like that.
SPEAKER_06I can't.
SPEAKER_03Especially after after like three or four months, it's like, okay, you know what's crazy. You know if you want to date somebody exclusively or not.
SPEAKER_01When I hear those stories of like people hanging out for like six months and not being like there's no boyfriend, girlfriend, and like what's the next one? One of the two is not in it at all.
SPEAKER_03They just want to keep having his cake and eating it too.
SPEAKER_01Hooking up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then hooking up with other chicks too.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Or the I'm not ready to like post you on Instagram, but they're still posting like stories, whether it's a boy or girl, and they don't want to show you after like a couple months. That's like, okay, then you're still trying to signal you're open to certain people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01So I get that one. Um sorry, my phone died. Let's see. Okay, I can. Who drives to whom? Um We kind of talked about this once.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I also I I again I'm so mixed. Why am I so mixed?
SPEAKER_01First date, I think we talked about this. First date meet somewhere.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, see, I say that. I've never met a hinge date. I've never met anybody anywhere.
SPEAKER_00If it's a hinge date.
SPEAKER_03And I've also never gone out with like a clap, like a like just like a straight stranger. It's always like I have friends who know him and like he's a normal guy.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, and yeah, like if I if I meet somebody in Dallas, like I will be meeting them somewhere. I'm not having them like even like say I was staying in a hotel in Dallas. I'm not having them like come to my hotel room and picking me up. I'm gonna meet them somewhere. Like, I don't even want to know, I don't want them to know even what hotel I'm staying at.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you gotta. Even I don't know, even after a couple times of meeting someone like pure stranger.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no. You gotta take a sec. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you gotta be careful because people can fake it.
SPEAKER_03But like, okay, so like say you're dating or like okay, I don't know, talking for a few months or whatever in your situationship.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like, if they live far away, I think like take turns. Like if I was dating somebody who lived in Salt Lake.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Megan, like Megan and I would do this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and like I lived in Draper, it's like you kind of like take turns.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03Or it's like if you drove here and like we will say you and Megan wanted to go get dinner in Lehigh, then like you would drive her car. Yeah, you would still drive, but you would drive her car.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of which, next question is for married. Or you're in a real relationship.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Who drives the car?
SPEAKER_03Oh, the guy. Always. Always the guy. Unless, like, genuinely you're the world's worst driver than I'm driving because I'm the best driver I know. So sometimes I can get real back seedy.
SPEAKER_01But I've had some friends. Yeah. That kills me.
SPEAKER_03Well, you're not a very good driver.
SPEAKER_01I am a fantastic driver.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01Why am I not a good driver?
SPEAKER_03You're real heavy on the brakes.
unknownOh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01No, that's that's Megan when we pull into like No, like Megan, God lover.
SPEAKER_03Worst driver ever.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yes. She is. She hugs the side. Oh, she is the worst driver. It's it's scary. But anyway, like it's when you pull into like when I come to your house, or we're going over like a simple bump. You know, you can like anticipate it and like kind of like get your core ready.
SPEAKER_03Like take your foot off the brake if you need to slow down a little bit. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01Talking about like she's in the passenger seat.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You like pulling in, and you can't you know a bump's coming, so you kind of like prepare yourself so you don't like look like a like string beam. And I will go over a bump.
SPEAKER_03No, you when we pull into Shannon's driveway, it's we're like being thrown, like thrashing.
SPEAKER_01But you like know it's coming, so you gotta prepare yourself. Megan, though?
SPEAKER_03No, we never prepare ourselves.
SPEAKER_01Never prepares. Looks like she is being just like whiplashed back and forth. I'm like, do you not have any core muscles? You can't hold yourself up.
SPEAKER_03No, I do that too. Like, whenever like Shannon's driving and she pulls into the driveway, I'm always like, oh my gosh. Like, because when you're driving, like you have something to hold on to that stabilizes you.
SPEAKER_01Or this, or this other thing that drives me insane. I'm driving. She's over here just looking at her phone. And then looks up and just like, oh my gosh. Watch out for that person. Like, what are you talking about? You haven't been paying attention the entire time. Yeah. And then you look up and have to be the backseat driver.
SPEAKER_03We're really bad backseat drivers, I'll give you that.
SPEAKER_01Very bad. Very bad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, which I don't really understand why Megan is, because it's not like she's that great of a driver anyway. I get why I am, because I'm like, no, why are you doing this? Like, you're doing it wrong.
SPEAKER_01You are so annoying.
SPEAKER_03I am the best driver I know.
SPEAKER_01That is not true.
SPEAKER_03Actually, okay, no, Michael's the best driver I know. I am in a close second, and he actually agrees with that. And so does she.
SPEAKER_01I've actually never had you drive me anywhere.
SPEAKER_03Well, why the hell would I drive you anywhere?
SPEAKER_01I mean you should. Like, why am I driving?
SPEAKER_03Well, because usually when we're going somewhere, Megan and the boys are with us.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's true. Um, what was I gonna say? But I do know, I do have friends where their wives drive them.
SPEAKER_03I will say, Shannon drives sometimes. Like, if if she's going further than like 10 or 15 minutes away, she has to drive because she gets really, really car sick.
SPEAKER_00That's fair.
SPEAKER_03That's and like even like remember when we went to IFA, it's literally like not even 10 minutes up the road, and I was in the very back of the car. I was on the verge of throwing up because I was so far in the back. It was hot too. And it was so hot, and I was like, oh my gosh, like I thought I was gonna die. I had to like, we had to take out the car seat so I could sit closer because I was like, I think I'm gonna die. Like, I got so car sick.
SPEAKER_01Like Weston got some guys car sickness.
SPEAKER_03Ryan. I'm just gonna message on Ryan.
SPEAKER_01He wants to fly you out somewhere.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, look at that.
SPEAKER_01Oh, let me see. Let me see this guy. I can I give a quick review.
SPEAKER_03Interesting. Yes, let me open it. I had to Okay, right now.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Alright. 32. You could be my dentist.
SPEAKER_03Okay, can we not?
SPEAKER_01What? That's not like. What's that gonna do?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. Just I like being I like being mysterious. Yeah, we're not sure what that is. We're just gonna ignore that picture. Okay, who cares? Maybe that's not his leg.
SPEAKER_01I mean, there you go.
SPEAKER_03Well, what do you expect? It's Raya.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Hello.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, yeah, hello. What do you expect? It's Raya. I mean, you're gonna meet a Mormon boy on Raya.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I thought maybe.
SPEAKER_03We could always convert them.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03That could be my new Barbie storyline.
SPEAKER_01Real life Barbie storyline.
SPEAKER_03I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's say we get you get married.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Whose responsibility is it to plan the meals?
SPEAKER_03Um, okay, day to day, like during the week, the white. Saturday, Sunday, especially Sunday dinner, the man. Just because, like, usually, and this is just all coming from my experience because usually on Sunday dinners, we're barbecuing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't freaking know how to barbecue.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we know.
SPEAKER_03The Traeger makes it a lot easier, but like when Michael used to have like a legit barbecuer with like the fire that would come up through the gate. I'm not touching that thing with the temple. Well, then you have to like turn on the propane. It's very simple, but so like that's always what I was used to. Or like also Shannon just like kind of stopped cooking one day, and like she only cooks like now, like on like Christmas and Thanksgiving and like Easter. So it's like when I was growing up, it was like we're going out to eat, and then we would have like two or three like home cooked meals. Like Sunday dinner is always a big thing. So we always have like an amazing meal on Sunday, and then like one or two more home-cooked meals throughout the week.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Trying to think Megan and I pretty much plan them together. We always just talk about like I have to come up with two, she has to I have to come up with two, you know.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's also like hard, like even because like now I'm kind of in charge of Sunday dinners where it's like I have to buy the groceries, or like no one's getting the groceries and then no one's eating on Sunday. So I always try to text in the family text and be like, okay, what dinner do we want for Sunday? Because I want everybody to like it. Yeah. And it's hard to come up with a meal like by yourself. Like, you need some input. It's like, oh, what sounds good to you this week? And I feel like you and Megan do a really good job of that.
SPEAKER_01And I do the grocery shopping. I do not allow her to do the grocery shopping.
SPEAKER_03Well.
SPEAKER_01And allow is a major, like, crazy word. I don't like say she can't do the grocery shopping. It's because we all, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, I know why. I don't know if they know why.
SPEAKER_01You and her have a habit of buying enough food for 40 people. And our eyes are never looking at a price tag.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01And so then you guys come back and say, what'd you get at the store and how much was it?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Insane amount of food.
unknownI don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03In our defense, we were raised by Shannon, who was like this this is Shannon's philosophy, and she might get mad at me for saying this. This typically Shannon's philosophy. You get what you pay for.
SPEAKER_01So And you know companies know that, and so they're pick up their price to make it feel like you're getting.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure they do. But like you can so clearly taste the difference. For example, at Harman's placebo. No, at Harman's place we get ground beef. I will only buy the Snake River Farms ground beef. Because you can so clearly taste the difference of just like your Joe Schmo ground beef. It is better.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03And even because even Michael was like, you guys are insane, just buy the cheaper meat. No, now he's a little bit of a snob, and now he only will buy Snake River meat.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah, please. This is the thing though. We love you. We um it comes a time when you have to Or like balsamic vinegar. Okay, give me a break. Okay, but you have to like Megan is now married. We're paying for our own groceries. Yeah, it's devastating. We had Wegman's in Virginia, which is just like Harman's.
SPEAKER_03Harman's is better.
SPEAKER_01Okay, you're such a snog. Harman's is not better. Harman's is better. Harman's is overpriced by like 50% for the same stuff.
SPEAKER_03No, it's so good. I love Harman's. It's a rich one. You won't never find a better grocery store than Harman's. Rip off.
SPEAKER_01Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Close second, Myers.
SPEAKER_01Myers is like a 10-foot by 10-foot little store. Has nothing in it.
SPEAKER_03They have a lot of stuff. They have amazing stuff. I love, I love Meyer's. They have the best the best tri-tip, and you have to agree with that.
SPEAKER_01No. I got just a good tri-tip at Wetman's. In Virginia. Anyway, as I was saying, I will never forget the first day that Megan had just gotten to Rhode Island. We go to the store together. She buys we just went to like a normal grocery store, not anything fancy, like Harman's, and we needed cooking oil. She bought like $40 avocado oil.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I was like, what the F.
SPEAKER_03What are you gonna cook with? Canola oil?
SPEAKER_01There are $9 options for avocado oil or olive oil or something else. You don't have to get the $40 one.
SPEAKER_03I'm just telling you how we were raised. Okay, not saying it's right, but like that's what we're used to. We're a product of our environment.
SPEAKER_01That was how long ago? Almost seven years ago. Yeah. And we continue to have the same argument. Or I have to say, how much did you spend at the store? She hasn't been able to answer me once.
SPEAKER_03No, we never know.
SPEAKER_01Still waiting for the day that she can tell me the exact dollars.
SPEAKER_03Would you like a receipt? No. Throw it away.
SPEAKER_01Or how much did you spend? I was like 50 bucks. Get the receipt? 125.
SPEAKER_03You always have to downplay it.
SPEAKER_01Drives me insane. Okay. Anyway, that one is a sensitive subject for me. Because it actually does drive me insane. So let's do like one more.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Who decides whose family you see for the holidays? I feel like a lot of people fight on this one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this is tough because. Okay. And you tell me how you feel about this. I feel like before you have kids, it's a lot easier to like do half day, half day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then once you have kids, it's like Well, a lot of people can't do half day, half day because some people don't live.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm talking about our situation.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Like where your family lives like 30 minutes away from us.
SPEAKER_01Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, but yeah, obviously you can't do that if they don't live that close to you. Without kids, I feel like it's very normal to do half day, half day if you're from the same area. And then once you have kids, then that makes it a lot harder because then you have to pack a lot of crap up. So then you start doing every other. And usually uh at least what we did, like when you guys got married, we just kept like whatever that year was going to be. That's what you guys like jumped in on. So like if it was an on-year, you guys were gonna be with us for Christmas, with your family for Thanksgiving. If it's an off-year, us for Thanksgiving, your family for Christmas. And you just alternate that every other year.
SPEAKER_01Which we really haven't done. We still do like half half.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys We always go both. Well, especially because the last two years you haven't lived here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so it's like we're not always here for Thanksgiving, we haven't been here for Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so like when you're here for Christmas, two-week break, you spend the first week up there or first week here and then switch. Switch.
SPEAKER_01And then we still go on Christmas, we'll go do both. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. It's hard being away and then coming into town.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because everybody wants to see you and hang out and see the boys. Yeah. It's hard.
SPEAKER_01It's hard because you also don't want to feel like you want people to feel like, oh, you're not coming to see us enough. And no offense to your family, but you're like Emily loves to you. Why are you guys going up to your your family's house? Like we're so much cooler. It's like, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03We want to hang out with the boys.
SPEAKER_01Well, great, but like we want to see our family, my family too.
SPEAKER_03And the babies want to hang out with the babies.
SPEAKER_01They want to hang out with their other cousins too.
SPEAKER_03I know, I know. When Emily goes to the Jacksons, I'm just like, why are you going there? And then I usually end up inviting myself. I'm like, fine, if you're going, I'm going too. And I'll show up at their house.
SPEAKER_04But you showed up at my house too.
SPEAKER_03I did show up at your house. I make my right at home. No, I like to hang out with my people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I guess so. But anyway, it's tough. And I don't know how we do that though, if we lived in different like if my family was in a different state than your family.
SPEAKER_03You would just have to do like full separate this year. We're spending Christmas with one family. Next year you're spending Christmas with the other family.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's tough. That would be really hard. Yeah. But no, it's I'm actually very nervous for is not like nervous, is Christmas for like this upcoming year.
SPEAKER_03Because you think you guys will want to stay in Dallas?
SPEAKER_01Potentially, just for like presents and stuff, and then either like come up before or after.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because I'm so sick of having to get all their presents here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, shipping everything.
SPEAKER_01And then shipping everything back. It's like you're spending for two Christmases just to get stuff back.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It just doesn't make sense.
SPEAKER_03I get that.
SPEAKER_01But then the boys are gonna be like, where I want my toys here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But then they also get so many toys from everybody else here. That's the one part that gets annoying.
SPEAKER_03Have you and Megan talked about that yet?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But we don't have like any plan of what we want to do. We're like, oh, let's just come up Christmas Day after we open presents, just fly up here, or maybe let's celebrate Christmas the day before. But then we're like, a lot of the traditions are Christmas Eve and like leading up to Christmas. And then so we miss out on all those. We're like, okay, then let's but then how do we get the presents here? You know, like you're not having the Christmas morning. I don't know the answer is. I hate that. Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know either.
SPEAKER_01So what's gonna happen if your husband is in Dallas? I or somewhere other state. I think maybe in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_03We shall cross that bridge when we come to it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that'll suck. Okay. Two judge and juries and then we're done.
SPEAKER_03Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Um this one. I hope this is the right place to send in for judge and jury. Yes, again, you can DM us, that is great. My husband's brother and wife traveled to town for our five-year-old's birthday. They came in town for an extended trip and first went to my in-laws about an hour and a half away from our house. We said we would come down Friday and vis wait, we said we'd come down Friday and visit and do dinner. We left our house at 3 30 as planned and got there at 5. My brother-in-law and his family had gone to a store over a half hour away and didn't tell us. We literally had to pass them on our drive in. So we were already miffed, which I've never used that word miffed, but I like it. That we drove our kids, 5-1, out there and they weren't there. Then come to find out, no one had planned dinner because they all had all gone out to a late lunch together. So it didn't cross their minds that our children would expect to eat at a normal dinner time, and they were put off by us wanting to feed them at 6. Like they are kids. Question mark. They don't care that you had ate a late lunch and they just want dinner. Am I wrong to be so upset about the lack of consideration and communication? I appreciate that they would drive 12 hours to come see our child for his birthday. It's just weird that they would put forth the effort, then not actually see him or put thought into the time, that time with him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like they could have been like, hey, we had a late lunch, so yeah, I get why she's like bugged.
SPEAKER_01And she's told them they were coming down that dinner. For dinner. For dinner.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, no, that's rude and annoying.
SPEAKER_01But I do think if your husband's like your brother-in-law and sister-in-law don't have kids, people just like don't get it.
SPEAKER_03They really don't get it.
SPEAKER_01And and I've talked to a couple friends about this. There's like you do not understand what it's like to have a kid until you have a kid. Even if you hang out, hang out around them, like your life just changes so much, and you just you just can't comprehend it until you actually have a kid.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, and every kid also like is so different. Like some kids like really need like a set schedule. And like if they don't have a schedule, then it's just like not good. Where other kids are more chill, and it's like, okay, yeah, like we can have dinner at seven, or we can do a later dinner because you guys had a later lunch. Where it's like that kid's not gonna freak out, but other kids like I mean, if it was my boys and we had not fed them, oh no, they think it was gonna be dinner, they would be disasters, they would be going insane.
SPEAKER_01They yeah, they get hangry, and they would be, yeah, they would be so hangry, crying, just fussy. So I'm and it sounds like that's what happened, just because she's so annoyed about it. So I I would be pissed.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'd be pissed, but I would be like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Well, it it just seems weird to me that they wouldn't like they unless they just like completely forgot and it left their brains that you guys were coming down for dinner. Yeah, like why go to a late lunch?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. And even if even if like someone's coming into town, like coming into town and they have kids, and I still had eight, a late lunch, I'd be like, yeah, let's go get them some food. Let's make them something. That's not a big deal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But then to force like a late dinner, I'd be like, all right, you guys are annoying. I'd be kind of annoying.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's rude, especially because they had a plan. It's not like they were like, oh, hey, we're on our way up like super last minute. Like they had a plan.
SPEAKER_01It was all planned.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I would probably tell my brother-in-law and sister-in-law to grow up. That's what I would say.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'd be kind of pissed. Yeah. Like, grow up. Think about someone other than yourselves.
SPEAKER_03Like the other day, me and Megan kind of had a late lunch when she made bread and we ate the whole loaf.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you guys stuffed your fruits.
SPEAKER_03We really went to town on that thing. Okay, here we go. So good.
SPEAKER_01I have a plan.
SPEAKER_03Can I finish my story?
SPEAKER_01Yes, sorry, God. But I want to go back to it.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, then we went, where did we? Oh, we went to Top Golf. None of us were hungry. So, like, we just got waters and like Sprite. We didn't get like, because at Top Golf, you have like the little like finger foods.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's kind of disgusting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it is kind of gross. And then after the boys were hungry, so we were like, okay, let's go get dinner. I wasn't hungry. Megan wasn't hungry.
SPEAKER_01I was starving.
SPEAKER_03So like me and Megan didn't get food.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03But like the boys ate, my mom and dad, and you ate, and like me and Megan just got diet cokes. And we were just like there for fun. Because I wasn't like, I'm not hungry. Why are we going to this restaurant? I was like, no.
SPEAKER_01No, you guys. That was actually so funny. Okay. Oh my god. Random tangent, though. Your dad. I was like is so funny.
SPEAKER_03In pure hell.
SPEAKER_01Okay, it wasn't that bad.
SPEAKER_03No, it was bad.
SPEAKER_01We so we finished Top Golf. Your dad says he has a surprise. He's gonna take us to a restaurant. Not he didn't tell anybody where we're going.
SPEAKER_03We were like, Michael, where are we going? And he was like, nope, it's a surprise, which is never a good sign. I thought, I mean, it was good.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't terrible.
SPEAKER_03Italian village, it has it has been in that same spot for at least 35 years.
SPEAKER_01But that also means it's good because people it's still around for 35 years.
SPEAKER_03No, honestly, I'd rather go to Olive Garden.
SPEAKER_01Okay, give me a break.
SPEAKER_03Well, and the other issue was it it wasn't so much Italian village. The other issue was it took forever getting our food out. Like somebody sat down at the exact same time as us, they ordered, got their food, left for like a solid 15 minutes before we even got the kids' food. And we ordered the kids' food first.
SPEAKER_01I did feel kind of like awkward because it was Italian village, and being unfortunately this gluten-free thing, I was like, all right, I don't want to order a steak. That was like there was but there's nothing else on the menu that I could have got. Yeah. So I was like, alright, I'll get the steak. I I was kind of embarrassed by that, but oh well.
SPEAKER_03No, no one cares. Who cares?
SPEAKER_01It was kind of weird.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, no, it wasn't weird. I didn't I didn't think one thing of it.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03Um I mean, I was like, why are you getting steak at Italian Village? I think it was actually pretty good.
SPEAKER_01It was good.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's good.
SPEAKER_01It kind of tasted like a Sizzler steak. Which Sizzler back in the day, their steaks used to be decent.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. Okay, would you rather go to Red Lobster or Sizzler?
SPEAKER_01I've actually never had red lobster.
SPEAKER_03I actually don't think I have either.
SPEAKER_01Why did you ask the question?
SPEAKER_03Well, no, just because like there's always like a stigma around like Red Lobster, Sizzler.
SPEAKER_01Sizzler was fantastic. Did you ever go to Sizzler?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01Sizzler had this combo steak and Malibu chicken.
SPEAKER_03Did you ever go to Fizzoli's?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03That place was so much.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we would always stop at the one in Draper.
SPEAKER_03Yes, there were, it was just right here with the drive-thru. You know, me and Emily and Amanda.
SPEAKER_01Go there all the time.
SPEAKER_03And Emily is like little like Mazda. We would go through the drive-thru and get like four bags of breadsticks. Hounded. They were gone. Like no crumbs left in the bag.
SPEAKER_01You guys' diet was kind of crazy. But anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, our diet was crazy.
SPEAKER_01Um, what were we talking about?
SPEAKER_03Italian village. No, and the reason why it was so bad is because the kids, the boys were already hungry, and then it took so long that they started to get hangry.
SPEAKER_01Then they brought their food. They finished it. They've been gonna be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And I was and I didn't get anything because I wasn't hungry. So I was just, I'm like, how many diet cokes am I gonna pound at this table?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Waiting for all of you guys to eat. And then I feel like you guys felt like you had to kind of scarf down your food because then the boys were like, let's go. Wesson kept being like, let's get out of here. And I was like, Yeah, Weston, let's get out of here.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I felt like, and they've had the same decorations for 150 years. Like, I felt like I was in a stimulation or something. Like, I was like, get me the F. Like, I felt like I was there for years.
SPEAKER_01Like, literally years.
SPEAKER_03That that took years off my life.
SPEAKER_01So dramatic.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, it was very dramatic.
SPEAKER_01But I have no idea how we got on this tangent.
SPEAKER_03We were talking about food. Oh, we were talking about the boys and how if they don't eat, then they get angry.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, yes, yes. Um, but anyway, with this person, I'm on her side. I would be annoyed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's annoying.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, we had some technical difficulties. Camera shut off. This has been a long episode. So let's hurry and do this last judge and jury. Okay, cool. Um, this one. Really quickly. It says, Love the show. Please settle this before I lose it. Every time my husband and I have a fight, his mom knows the details by lunch. We argued about money on Tuesday. Wednesday, she texts me with a link to a great free budgeting class.
SPEAKER_02Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01He says he is just close with his mom. And venting is healthy. I say our marriage has a third member. I never agreed to. I'm not asking him to cut off his mother. I'm asking that what happens in her house stays in our house. He says I'm overreacting that his mom is basically and and his mom is basically a therapist. Is venting to mom allowed? And is she allowed to text me the class? Respectfully, she said the third will in Tampa.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Tell me if you would agree with this.
SPEAKER_01Please.
SPEAKER_03Because coming from somebody who vents to my family about any little tiny thing, and like I know when my sisters are fighting with their husbands, or like even if like you do something that makes Megan annoyed, like she's she'll be like, I'm so annoyed, and I'm like, why? And she's like, because he's just standing there. And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm annoyed for you too. Like just like sometimes your utter existence is bugging. So but what I do, and normally what I feel like Shannon and Michael try to do is we just pretend like we don't know. Unless it's like really bad where we feel like we need to say something, then it's like we don't know.
SPEAKER_01You guys do do that a lot.
SPEAKER_03But or like then, like Megan will start talking about it in front of you, and then you'll be like, well, no, and then this, this, this, and like you'll add your two cents, and we're like, yeah, we already heard about it.
SPEAKER_01Like today.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Could you tell when we were being a little sus over on the couch?
SPEAKER_01That's when you're talking about it.
SPEAKER_03And we were like the Michael movie's so good.
SPEAKER_01You're you guys are the worst.
SPEAKER_03You guys are actually worried about the world. We want you to tell us.
SPEAKER_01But I only wanted to tell you. I didn't want to tell everybody else. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Um wait, are we talking about the same thing?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Are we talking about what I shared outside? After?
SPEAKER_03What did you share? After what? Dinner?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Never mind. Anyway, let's get back to this because we need to finish this up.
SPEAKER_03Um so okay, so back to tell me if you agree with this. If he needs somewhere to vent, he wants to vent to his mom, okay, vent to your mom. But then the mother needs to be like, okay, sweetie, like kind of like be like, I hear what you're saying, but like don't be so easily annoyed. And then like she needs to not text you a budgeting link. Like that would freaking piss me off. It's like just pretend like you don't know.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna have my mom's and making a budgeting link. Just kidding.
SPEAKER_03Would you agree with that? Or are you like, no, like don't be a little bit, like, don't be a mama's boy, and like you don't need to go run and tell your mom every little thing.
SPEAKER_01Um, both. I do think it's good to have someone to vent to, but I think there's certain things you do.
SPEAKER_03Certain things stay within the marriage.
SPEAKER_01Like finance, unless you're like needing significant help. Like, I think there's certain like you, you should probably keep that within the marriage. Like, try and do it.
SPEAKER_03Well, you didn't keep the grocery budget in the marriage, you just blasted her on the pod.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I didn't share how much we spent.
SPEAKER_03I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_01You're so annoying.
unknownGod.
SPEAKER_01But yes, I think certain things stay in the marriage. I think, yeah, everyone needs to vent sometime. It's nice to have someone to vent to. And it's usually the parents.
SPEAKER_03And he maybe he needs to be like, okay, mom, like, if I vent to you, like you can't go text her. Because then it makes things worse. Because then she's like, what, you're gonna go run tell mommy? But even then, loser.
SPEAKER_01If you've had like the conversation wife that, like, okay, this stays very much.
SPEAKER_03Run and tell mom and dad, actually.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you do. But if your husband says, I would like if you just keep this between us.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's actually happened. And I'm like, yeah, no, no, no, this will stay between us. And then I go tell everyone, and I'm like, but act like you don't know because he was like, don't tell your family. But I'm also not married, so it's different.
SPEAKER_01It's like But that's like if you do that, then you're gonna lose the trust of your husband.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's so messed up.
SPEAKER_03It's not like it was anything serious.
SPEAKER_01I'm just saying though, like, if it was like financial issues, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And he's like, please don't share the Okay, yeah, that's different than being like if it's something dumb, like Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but if it's like financial issues, like please don't share that with your family. Like, let's work through it together and make sure we're gonna be okay. I don't want everyone knowing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I get that. For sure.
SPEAKER_01Like in that situation, if it's something serious, like, yeah. But then also at the same time, if it's something even small, and you go tell your family behind his back, and say he finds out, if it was me, I'd be like, I asked you not to share that. And to be honest, that did help happen a couple times with Megan Knight in the beginning of our marriage.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, what did she share?
SPEAKER_01I can't remember, it was just small things, it wasn't like serious, but it was like because especially with my family, I came like we're not like sharing everything like you guys. So there'd be certain things like please like just keep this between us. Like, I don't like everyone knowing my fights or certain things, you know what I mean? I've kind of gotten used to it now, but like I would find out later that she shared everything with you guys, and I'd be a little hurt because like I asked you not to, like, specifically asked you not to, and then you just said F it and told everybody. Like that hurts a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I do get that. Um, yeah, I don't know. If he's gonna go tell his mom everything, and if she specifically is asking, like, please don't go tell your mom, and he still is going and telling his mom, he needs to be like, do not text her. You have to act like you don't know. Or he can't tell his mom things anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think it's the latter.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay, yeah. I'm just trying to- Because you're still just hiding and like acting and you know doing something behind your what I would do because like it would be really well, also I'm not in that situation, so it's like why's that noise?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. But anyway.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, it just like I have I tell my family everything.
SPEAKER_01I know, but like But doesn't that person become your new family too?
SPEAKER_03And like Well, until we're married now.
SPEAKER_01Well, duh, we're talking about when you're married.
SPEAKER_03Well, okay, but I'm talking about like if like I was dating somebody and he was like, Don't tell your family this, but like XYZ.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Then I'd be like, Oh yeah, no, I totally. And then I'd be like, oh my gosh, guess what?
SPEAKER_01But you're just like setting yourself up to lose the all the trust of the person. Like if some Megan tells me something and says, Don't tell anybody, I don't say anything. It doesn't matter who it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, see, we're just not used to that because it's like growing up, it was like, don't tell anybody, and we were like, no, we'd never tell a soul. But that like your sisters don't count.
SPEAKER_01But your sisters had the biggest mouse out there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That is true. That's valid.
SPEAKER_01And so it's like if they know, then if it becomes some topic of conversation, they're gonna let it out.
SPEAKER_03That's true, yeah. So maybe like maybe you maybe still don't tell. You should probably then these lips are sealed.
SPEAKER_01Probably earnest trust with that and not share it.
SPEAKER_03These lips are sealed.
SPEAKER_01I I want a great movie.
SPEAKER_03Did you ever watch that movie? No. My lips are sealed.
SPEAKER_01What the heck are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03Mary Kate and Ashley.
SPEAKER_01How would I have known?
SPEAKER_03Did you ever watch any Mary Kate and Ashley movies growing up?
SPEAKER_01Probably. I don't know. I recognize Mary Kate and Ashley, but I could not tell you what one was about or who she was.
SPEAKER_03Like, did you ever watch It Takes Two?
SPEAKER_01No. I don't know what the heck that is. Who was Mary King and Ashley?
SPEAKER_03They're twins. They were on Full House.
SPEAKER_01That's right. Yeah, I did not watch any of their stuff.
SPEAKER_03You didn't even watch Full House?
SPEAKER_01I did watch Full House.
SPEAKER_03Okay, great show.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, that's it for the episode. That is a two-hour, maybe just under two-hour episode.
SPEAKER_03Crazy.
SPEAKER_01Ready?
SPEAKER_03Applause for the one whoever listened to me. No, and like if my storylines for my Barbies offended anyone, I genuinely apologize. I was like six-year-old.
SPEAKER_01No, those are crazy five-year-old, six-year-old storylines.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You were. I mean, that's from Desperate Housewives.
SPEAKER_03I got my inspo from Desperate Housewives and enough. So blame that.
SPEAKER_01There you go. There you go. Well, we don't have video for this ending, so Rip. Oh well. Do you want to sign us off?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03And that is our episode. Thank you so much for listening. We are your hosts, Amy and Zach. And follow us anywhere you listen to podcasts. That's Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.
SPEAKER_01And that's it.
SPEAKER_03I was trying to think of something I could say to like tie it in, but are we recording? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, that's it. And see you next time.
SPEAKER_01Bye.
SPEAKER_03Next time you'll be in Dallas. We're back to virtual.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for just that one, and then then it'll be in person the next one. And I think the next one is like episode twenty five.
SPEAKER_03Crazy.
SPEAKER_01Nuts. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I think I thought this one was twenty three.
SPEAKER_01I don't know what it is. I think it was twenty four.
SPEAKER_03Whatever. Who cares? All right. See ya.
SPEAKER_01Bye.
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