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Cx1DJs We Do Things Different Podcast "Untold Stories of Clive Davis" hosted by DJButterrock live Jay Davis (April 4, 1932 – June 22, 2026) was an American record executive, A&R executive, record producer and lawyer. He won four Grammy Awards and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as a non-performer, in 2000.[1]

From 1967 to 1973, Davis was the president of Columbia Records. He was the founder and president of Arista Records from 1974 through 2000 until founding J Records. From 2002 until April 2008, he was chair and CEO of the RCA Music Group (which included RCA Records, J Records, and Arista Records), chair and CEO of J Records, and chair and CEO of BMG North America.

Davis is credited with having hired a young recording artist, Tony Orlando, as a music executive for Columbia in 1967 who provided Barry Manilow with his first recording contract a few years later.[2] He signed many artists who achieved significant success, including Pink Floyd; Sly and the Family Stone; Janis Joplin; Laura Nyro; Santana; Bruce Springsteen; Chicago; Earth, Wind & Fire; Aerosmith; Billy Joel; Donovan; the Bay City Rollers; Blood, Sweat & Tears; Luther Vandross; Loggins and Messina; Ace of Base; Olivia Longott; Westlife; and Gavin DeGraw. He is also credited with having brought Whitney Houston and Barry Manilow to prominence.[3]

He served as the chief creative officer of Sony Music Entertainment from 2008 until his death in 2026.[4]

Early life and education
Clive Jay Davis was born on April 4, 1932, in Brooklyn, New York City, to Jewish parents,[5] Herman and Florence Davis. His father worked as an electrician and salesman.[6] Davis was raised in Crown Heights, Brooklyn,[6] and attended Erasmus Hall High School.[7]

His mother died at age 47, and his father died the following year while Davis was still a teenager. He then moved in with his married sister, who lived in Bayside, Queens.[6]

Davis attended New York University College of Arts & Science, graduating[6] magna cum laude with a degree in political science[8] and Phi Beta Kappa in 1953. He received a full scholarship to Harvard Law School and graduated in 1956.[9] Davis practiced law in a small firm in New York,[10] then moved on to the firm of Rosenman, Colin, Kaye, Petschek, and Freund two years later, where partner Ralph Colin had CBS as a client.[11] Davis was subsequently hired by a former colleague at the firm, Harvey Schein, to become assistant counsel of CBS subsidiary Columbia Records at age 28, and then general counsel the following year.[12]

As part of a reorganization of Columbia Records Group, group president Goddard Lieberson appointed Davis as administrative vice president and general manager in 1965.[13] In 1966, CBS formed the Columbia-CBS Group which reorganized CBS's recorded music operations into CBS Records with Davis heading the new unit.[14]

The next year, Davis was appointed president and became interested in the newest generation of folk rock and rock and roll. One of his earliest pop signings was the British folk-rock musician Donovan, who enjoyed a string of successful hit singles and albums released in the U.S. on the Epic Records label. That same year, Davis hired 23-year-old recording artist Tony Orlando as general manager of Columbia publishing subsidiary April-Blackwood Music; Orlando went on to become vice-president of Columbia/CBS Music and signed Barry Manilow in 1969.[15]

In June 1967, Davis attended the Monterey Pop Festival after his friends and business associate, Lou Adler, convinced him.[16] He immediately signed Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company, and Columbia went on to sign Laura Nyro; The Electric Flag; Santana; The Chambers Brothers; Bruce Springsteen; Chicago; Billy Joel; Blood, Sweat & Tears; Loggins and Messina; Aerosmith; and Pink Floyd (for rights to release their material outside of Europe).[17][18][19][20]

One of the most commercially successful recordings released during Davis's tenure at Columbia was Lynn Anderson's Rose Garden, in late 1970. It was Davis who insisted that "Rose Garden" be the country singer's next single release. The song crossed over and was a No. 1 hit in 16 countries worldwide. "Rose Garden" remained the biggest-selling album by a female country artist for 27 years.[21][22]

In 1972, Davis signed both Earth, Wind & Fire and Aerosmith to Columbia Records. In 1979 Aerosmith mentioned Davis in the song "No Surprize", in which Steven Tyler sings, "Old Clive Davis said he's surely gonna make us a star, I'm gonna make you a star, just the way you are."[23] Starting on December 30, 1978,[24] Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead occasionally changed the lyrics of the Dead standard "Jack Straw" in concert from "we used to play for silver, now we play for life", to "we used to play for acid, now we play for Clive."[25]

One of the last bands Davis tried to sign to Columbia Records was the Detroit band Death.[26]


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But I want to tell y'all, tonight is a dope show. This is this is us, this is the breaking news show. Breaking motherfucking news. Now, I met Clyde Davis a couple of times. We're gonna talk about that now. I met a lot of these in industry big dogs. So we're gonna talk about it. Actually, I met Clyde Davies at a conference in New York City back in uh, I'm gonna tell you what year, it was 2007. And he when he speaks, the room is quiet. Yeah. And uh I I want to say shout out to Lawania Wilson for telling me my mic out because I was talking shit about her saying, hey everybody, but the mic was out, so I'm gonna leave that shit alone right now. I I'll call her behind the scenes. If you were not, if you're not a member of Patreon, and you saying hey to everybody, do you say hey? This is what I want you to say, Loania. Hey everybody, be a member to the CX1 DJ's podcast Patreon. Do that! I want you to do that for now, uh, Lawania. 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We're gonna I'm gonna send you a uh script to post under there, Lawandia. Yeah, let's do that. Let's get into Clyde Davis because some of you motherfuckers wish you met Clyde Davis. And I met Clyde Davis a couple of times. So we're gonna talk about a lot of shit tonight. Respectfully. Now, I personally met him a couple of times on some industry shit, conferences, seminars, music seminars, ask app BMI seminars, shit like that in New York City. So, what I'm gonna explain tonight might be a little different from what people saying. So, but I but I'm a DJ and I've been doing I've been DJing 35 fucking years. Clyde Davis has been in the game forever since I was little. I remember I remember the Arista logo. When Winnie Houston came out, you see the big ass Arista logo on the records because we had Vino. So you see Arista on the album cover, Arista on the back. Clyde Davis was the president, the CEO. He ran Arista Records, he ran CBS Records, he was the owner of J Records. Everybody in a fucking mama was signed to J Records. We only got an hour, so I can't go down a list of all the major, major and boutique labels that Clyde Davis helped along the way. After he left Arister, he started J Records. J Records had so many, so many superstars. I'm not gonna get into all the superstars. We'll be here all night. But what you need to know that matter what you say about Clyde Davis, and I'm gonna keep looking at camera one, Clyde Davis was a music mobile when some of you motherfuckers would never be in this industry. Died at 94. So he lived a long life. So we're gonna get into a lot of this industry shit tonight. A lot of the shit I talked about on my commerce calls for years. A lot of the Numinati shit, a lot of a lot of payola shit, a lot of it's no, it's nothing personal, it's just business. Clark Davis, along with everybody else that's in this music industry, had to do what they had to do to get the artists where they need to be at. Hey. Whatever they had to do to get their artists to the next level, they did it. You you can understand in this music industry, it's it's a it's a thing about he was the CEO of a couple of major labels. He didn't own the major labels, he was the CEO of them labels. So he was the man that ran the operation, and they said uh it's in court documents, so I don't gotta say allegedly. When I go pull a transcript or court documents, Clyde Davis was charged with a couple of things when he was with CBS Records. We're not gonna get into all that tonight. We only got an hour. I'm here to praise the man and give him flowers. But I'm gonna talk, like I said, with CX1 DJ's untold story. We give flowers, we praise what they did in their career, we praise the the mark they made on it their life in the music industry and whatever career, what industry they were in. We covered the music industry, sports, we cover politics, politics, we cover all that over here at CX1 DJs. So you knew here, then we cover all that. And shout out to everybody that's watching on Roku and all other different fucking browsers. All right, that's shout out to you niggas. But um, Clyde Davis pit a lot of people on. Is some of your favorite artists you don't even know that Clyde Davis had his hands and a career. Well, Butter Rock, tell me something I didn't know. Oh, nigga, we're gonna we g we nigga, we got an hour. We heard that we here until 12. That's why he ain't bullshit around. Not too much. So Winnie Houston, everybody knows that he she was signed to Aristotle. Let's talk about the shit that you guys think you know. Alicia Keys. Did you know that she was signed to Clyde Davis? Did you know that Clyde Davis discover Alicia Keys? Did you know that? New niggas didn't know that. Pile the Bell is one another one that he had an instrument in her career. He also did a lot of shit on Michael Jackson's early stuff, coming up the ranks. Now, Michael wasn't signed to Aristotle or nothing that uh Clyde was doing, but he was instrument on a lot of deals behind the scenes with the Jacksons and also the Jackson 5s, the Jacksons, Stevie Wonder. You guys didn't know that Clyde Davis is the one that negotiated Stevie Wonder contract. A lot of you people did. That's why Stevie Wonder is out there uh advocate and preaching on why all the all the bad guys is still living and all the good ones is dead. Like I said, when I met Clyde, he it was all business, it was more like listen, straightforward, this is how you would you need to do an industry. Because he was pretty much talking to a lot of DJ personalities and a lot of DJs, a lot of street team people. Clyde Davis is from the old school. One thing about Clyde Davis, he's from New York City. I'm from New Jersey. He is his mind is built on the New York up north city grind. The gritty, the dirty, the the to get it out of the mud. Like get street team. He built his organization on street team activity. Some of you young motherfuckers don't know what that is. You know what a street team activity is? It have to be the radio stations, the wrapped-up radio station with the name of the radio station on it. It have to be the guys pitting the posters on every pole in a fucking city when an artist is doing a press run. You cannot sell records back in the 80s and the 90s. No, excuse me. Back in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s without a Zacdo press run. A Zacdo means it gotta be from the T press run. You cannot release an album or uh anything without a correct press run because the records didn't sell. You have to show your boss what the fuck you did. So Clyde says, hey, we gotta hire the promotion company to do XYZ. That promotion company better do XYZ. They have their own people to go out and double check and make sure the XYZ was done when the record company spend the market of dollars to market that artist. Clyde Davis came from that era. Let me speak, let me cook. So when you come from that era, he knew that the music industry as it was changing to digital, that it would never lose the identity of physical copies. Physical copies, physical merch always was there. Like, for instance, when Winnie Houston came out, she was signed to Arista Records. You had the Winnie Houston dolls, you had the Winnie Houston t-shirts, you had the Winnie Houston bandanas, you had the Winnie Houston hats. That was merchandise. It's no different what these young people doing now, what the industry is doing now with social media. You got to sell your merch. Right now, merch is selling more than albums. So imagine back in the 80s and 90s with the proper artist development, the proper street team, the proper marketing from the majors. That's why I want you when Winnie's dropped, when Winnie Houston's first album dropped, it sold millions. It went diamond. When Winnie Houston met Clyde Davis in New York City back in the 80s, Clyde immediately was attracted to the young 18-year-old. So I wanted y'all to pay attention. Walk with me. So being attracted to somebody don't mean you want to fuck them. Attracted to a person's personality, attracted to the person's smile, attracted to how they operate and they aura and how they carry themselves. That could attract you to people like Clyde Davis. Don't mean that Record exec wanna fuck you. Don't mean they don't want to be unprofessional. It means that you are a person that they are attracted to spiritually, business-wise, and mentally. And if you try to get in this music industry, you want the Record of Zec to be attracted to you. Now we're going to get to the other the other side. We can do one two sides of Clyde Davis. Let's do the music mobile first. Because I couldn't be a journalist, an underground journalist, if I don't play both sides. I'm not going to play both sides. I'm going to give this godfather. I'm going to call him the godfather of the music industry. Do you know a godfather could go both ways, though? A godfather is, hey, you don't cross the lines, you don't get whacked. You do what you gotta do. When I mean whacked, it could be kilt, it could be dealt with, it could be blackball, it could be anything. How the fuck you want to take it? You could do it how you want to do it. And one thing one thing about Clyde Davis, he was smart and he was to the point. Kind of like Mafiosa. He was to the point. And it was nothing that Clyde Davis did was by accident. So he said, hey, your album, your album's gonna be pushed back, it got pushed back. If he said, no, this, this, this, this ain't what we need to do today, they ain't what he did today, they ain't what you did. If you see this this ain't gonna work today, it didn't work. You know, I got my notes. I did my research, my PR has been on full-fledged since the passing of this mobile. And shout out to Chad from RHERT Media for making sure we got everything cleared and we ready to go. And shout out to the Clyde Davis team and shout out to everybody uh of the Clyde Davis estate allowing us to do this tonight without no interruptions. So we want to wanna we don't want to thank them, you know, we want to thank them anyway for allowing us to do this. So Clyde Davis worked with, like I said, he was a part of a lot of major labels and a lot of indie labels, and we're gonna get into the the most people want to talk about it, him and puffy. We'll get to that later. But Clyde Davis helped a lot of you know, Bruce Springsteen. We be here all day, man. I mean, we be here all day. The name all the list of the people he been. Let's just talk about the people that he changed lives. Puppy, Puffy was with. But see, before we get to Puffy, let's talk about Uptown Records. Because you can't get to Puffy without talking about Uptown Records. Who the hell you think started Uptown Records? Who the hell you think gave Anjie Harrell his go-to? Andre Harrell was being funded by Clyde Davis. It was no Uptown Records without Anjie Harrell. It was no Uptown Records without Andre Hell. It wasn't no Anjou Harrell without Clyde Davis. So I'm gonna say this again in case the people in the back didn't get it. It was no Uptown Records without Anjou Harrell. It was no Ange Harrell without Clyde Davis. Who you think funded Uptown Records? Who you think was the distributor for Uptown Records, Arista Records? Who was the CEO of Arista Records? Clyde Davis. So as Heavy Dina Boys, MCA, Arista Records, Uptown Records. See a lot of people see the MCA logo not knowing that it's all affiliated with Arista, CBS, where all that shit is together. I'm gonna give you some history tonight. We're gonna give you some record company history tonight. All them so-called niggas that sold platinum records. I know a lot of shit. A lot of these other record uh street team motherfuckers, niggas that sold thousand plaques of records. You could you could be a part of all the trends, how many records you sold, how many, how many, how many things you did, how many platinum shit you went platinum. That shit could be all good. But you cannot do that without the machine funding the machine. The machine pays you to make sure you get a top 10, or be in the top 10, or be in the top 100s, or being having a number one album, or going platinum, getting that platinum plaque that you gotta pay for, getting that gold plaque that you gotta pay for. The record company is not paying for your plaque, motherfucker. You paying for your plaque. Clyde Davis said it at the seminar in New York City in 2007 when I was I was there, I was present, that pretty much the artists have to be ready for startership. If you're not ready for startership, that you don't need to be in this music industry. And everything is business, nothing is personal. That came from Clyde Davis. All right. Period. I was there. He was talking to all the DJs, all the street team people, all the marketing company. I was with, I was at that time, I was with double exposure at that time. And I was a that's the street team company. The record labels pay us to go out and hand on flyers. If you niggas from New York City and New Jersey, you know about double exposure. I used to work for them. I DJ'd for them, and I also was a street team, I was a street team supervisor. So I supervised everybody that went out and hand the whoever our client was. It could be Aristotle Records, Def Jam, Bad Boy, uh, uh freaking um Sony. It could be anybody. When they cut the check to double exposure, we hit the streets. And one thing I would say about every major label we worked for, they went back and double checked that we did our job. Because you gotta on a paper, they give you a form, you gotta fill out everywhere you put them posters. You just you think they just gonna pay you and thinking that you really did the job. Oh no, they went, they had somebody, one of the interns went back and trapped and looked at the address everywhere. We put the the flies on the poles and on the buildings and all that shit. You gotta understand something. The day you put it up, you gotta take a picture. It's like it was like fucking Uber and Lyft and DoorDash before DoorDash. Once you pick the shit up, you had to take a picture of that shit. You have that back in the day, you ain't have no fucking camera phone. You have to have one of them Kodak cameras you get from Walgreens and shit. Take a picture, develop it, and you have the when the record when you need to get your check, double exposure, have to have everything when they brought to the major label to prove that you pit up the shit. Justin, you know, even though they're gonna have the interms go and make sure you did it, but Jessing, just to cover your ass to get your check, what you niggas know about that straight team shit? That's the era I came from. That was the shit that Clyde Davis was talking about at the seminar in 2007 in New York City. Actually, it was at the Macy Building. He had the seminar at the Macy's um the Macy it was Macy's store had like a a uh uh uh freaking um auditorium in there and he had it they had a little seminar with Aaron with um Ascap and BMI it was crazy letting everybody know how to get their paperwork done correctly and and you trying to be a part of the music industry and Clyde Davis actually hosted that event back in 2007 and yes DJ Butterock was there with double exposure. So that's my experience with him. So just get back into uh the the the the really touch of things that if you're really trying to get in this industry, you gotta really make sure that you you you you you really you really know what you're doing. Because if you don't know what you're doing, it could get ugly for you. You might say, what you mean by ugly? I'm gonna tell I'm gonna explain you with ugly. Ugly mean when it's time to pay the piper, you can't say this man did me wrong. Like I said earlier in another another another Untold Stories, everybody want to blame the record company, the CEOs, the record is ex because they they feel they're not getting they money. Now, I'm not gonna take up for Clyde Davis, but I'm gonna take up for Cloud Davis because I own a management company. So I'm gonna let I'm gonna break something down to you uneducated music people. If you if I give you a contract and it states you getting X, Y, Z. Here's the advanced money, here's the money I'm gonna I'm gonna recruit. Here's the money is gonna pay for this, and we gotta pay for a hotel, here we gotta pay for a stylist, and we gotta pay for a driver, and we gotta pay for your first class plane tickets. You know, all you rappers want all this fine shit, and we gotta go get um the videographer that costs a million dollars, and you want this kind of video. The record company is not just shooting this without you agreeing to it. Now, we're gonna talk about the Clyde Davis in the TLC situation. You know TLC was under LaFace, and guess who was a distributor for the face? Arista Records. So when some shit went on wrong with LaFace record with Ellie Reed, they start blaming Clyde Davis. So you had you had you had Chile, you had uh T Baz, you had Left Eye, you had everybody pissed off at Arista Records. When they didn't look, they need to look at LaFace. They was not looking at Ellie Reed and what he did with the money and what all the shit went down with him and pebbles, but they would start blaming LaFace. They would LaFace started blaming Arista Records. And being Clyde Davis was the CEO of Aristotle Records at the time, when TLC saw all these records, millions of records, they did a whole bunch of records, they saw a whole lot of shit. They did good, they get they did swell. But pebbles, she told them the percentage they was getting for all the money they had to put into TLC, and the percentage they had to get the money they had to recruit from all the shit they had to make them, all the shit they had to make them a star. So that's the boutique label. Yes, the major label put up the budget, but they put they give the budget, the funds to the boutique label. If you don't know what the fuck a boutique label is, it's the independent label. A lot of you motherfuckers ain't smart. I ain't gonna say smart, you're not into the the the lingo of the record company shit. So that is um that's the that's the that's the lingo of that. So as as as the music industry went along, a lot of people got shit out of money, according to them. A lot of radio stations got paid off to play records, a lot of video music box uh video, digital video places had to, you know, was getting paid to pretty much play the video. Even if the shit was corny, they made it hot. You know what uh rotation is like like control. When your shit is controlled, is mean you want to keep hearing it, hearing it, hearing it, is programmed by design. So commercial radio now and then is commercial is programmed radio. So if anybody thinks for a million years that if you keep hearing one song over and over and over again that ain't being paid for, advertisement or how the fuck you want to call it, the PDs or whoever is going on uh dinner, lunch breaks, going to you know, going to private rooms to take care of whatever records that is to make sure that artist or that person or that radio station is taken care of. You think that shit is free? You think that when they go meet up with the PDs, what is a PD? Program director for any of these major radio stations in any of these cities, you don't think how you think these PDs is being taken care of? So we ain't gonna blame now Clyde Davis is gone. He died at 94 years old. Everybody wants to piss on his grave. I noticed no one said nothing good about Clyde Davis. It was you got a half of the industry, you got the other half, you got Instagram, Twitter. Listen to me. I met the man a couple of times on some industry shit. I got a lot of not a lot of knowledge from him. I'm not saying what Clyde did or he didn't do, but on CX1 DJ's Untold Story, we give flowers, we pay homage, and we uh we celebrate what the person did. But we will also be fair to the other people that was affected. So we're gonna we're gonna play some videos and we're gonna get into some content of the other side, other people, how other people feel about Clyde Davis, because we have to do that on the show. But we're also gonna let everybody know, independently, CX1 DJs is standing by Clyde Davis. We are standing by Arista Records. We stand by Aristotle, uh, Arista Records, CBS records, and we are standing by anything that Clyde Davis did in his music industry to get his artists to the next level. Everybody understand once they're famous, then they have a problem with the NT that got them famous. Once they made millions of dollars, that they expected they're supposed to have more millions of dollars. Nigga, you made it. You made it. You made it. Because once you start messing with certain people in power, you it's like poking a bear. So you get unfortunately, you get some shit that you don't want. It's a lot of shit that comes with this. Andy Stone was signed to J Records. All right, we won't get into that tonight. It's a lot of people that were signed to J Records. And J Records was owned by Clyde Davis. So what I'm gonna say respectfully, allegedly, people saying that they think the record company has something to do with Andy Stone. Oh, we don't fucking know. But I will say this when you poking a fucking bear, or you, you, you, you, you, you, it's more, see, it's always more people tied to the person that you thinking is doing shit. For instance, somebody could say, fuck DJ Butterock. My people that love me might react to that. It don't have to be me. Because something happened to a motherfucker that you know, when I'm somebody's a you know, somebody don't, it could be a fan, it could be anybody. When you out there trashing a person's legacy, it don't gotta be that person that got angry and got you. It gotta be, it could be a fan, it could be karma, it could be your mouth just fucking running your fucking mouth. Like I tell all these big mouth motherfuckers, if you're trying to get a blessing, shut the fuck up so the blessing can come to you. Like Angie Stone kept saying this man owed him, uh old money. She kept running her mouth, and I love Angie Stone. Okay, blah, brother, my brother. Uh, uh RP to Angie Stone. But I was I when I heard her talking about Jay Rickets and talking about Clyde Davis, I like, yo, you in the danger zone, baby. And I said, nobody called you and said, hey, that shit is dangerous. When Michael Jackson was talking, when goddamn uh women Houston started talking, calling Clyde Davis a devil. I like, yo, you don't know you in the danger zone. It's like, motherfuckers, what use your fucking head. It don't gotta be Clyde Davis to take you out. It don't gotta be Russell Simmons to take it. It gotta be Puffy. It would be the people around them that don't like the fact that you are shitting on a person that put you in fucking position. Now, and of course we're gonna say it don't make it right, but don't don't don't plan your own fucking funeral. CX1 DJ's untold story of Claude Davis. Now, one thing about that, when I be watching these artists talk shit about the record company, um they're not talking shit about a broke motherfucker, they talking shit with niggas with billions of dollars like you. Nigga, shut the fuck up. And if you're gonna do that, do that behind the scenes. Shut the nobody needs to know that you are suing this one or you have an issue with that one. You have your attorney do that shit quietly, the whole social media. Everybody don't gotta know that you negotiations or you but plan on suing Clyde Davis, you plan on suing Puffy, you plan on suing uh who the fuck uh Universal or Sony nigga, you in the danger zone when you start running your fucking mouth. Now, no one else is gonna tell you, but DJ Butter Rock, I've been in this shit, I've been in this music industry shit, I've been behind the scenes, I've been in certain doors, and I know how to go. Shut the fuck up. And if you don't want to be in certain doors, you don't want to have to do certain shit, then stay broke and grind independently. Just stay broke. You don't gotta have the million dollars, you don't gotta have the Maybach, you don't gotta have all your bills paid. You gotta stay independent and grind, and then you can say, I ain't have to fuck nobody, I have to suck no dick, I ain't have to do no train, I ain't have to be in a sex party, I had to do none of that because I did it off the grind. If you're not willing to do it off the grind, and when you start getting into other shit, you can't blame the record companies, the record execs, the record mobile, you can't blame none of them people when you fucked up and you made the decision that's what you were gonna do with your life and your career. CX1 DJ's untold stories of Clyde Davis. I'm dropping some fucking knowledge on you guys because I got 35 years in this music in music industry to do it, and I know I met a bunch of these music execs and record company mobiles. And I'm gonna tell you what I didn't never do. I never suck nobody's dick. I shut it the fuck up and I listened. I ain't wanna be in certain rooms because I'm gonna be in a room regardless if I'm doing it, if I'm out there hanging up, I'll be the worker. Everybody wanna be the boss. Oh, I want to do that. When I say, hey man, we're gonna hand on some flies. I ain't about to hand on no goddamn flyers. Nigga, that's the closest shit you're gonna get to the stars and get to the. I'm gonna tell y'all something about me. I never wanted to get to the rappers. I wanted to get to the mobiles, I wanted to get to the CEOs of the record company, I wanna get to the uh the vice presidents of the record company, I want to get to the people that the ARs of the record company. I didn't give a fuck about the rapper. The fuck the rapper is gonna do for me. They don't want to pay DJs as it is. Who the fuck you didn't pay me? The record company paid us. The fucking rappers ain't want to pay the DJs nothing. So when everybody say, oh, you know, this and this and that about the all the all the record labels and the record of Zecks, and everybody wanna talk shit about uh uh Kevin Lau, everybody wanna talk shit about Russell, everybody wanna talk shit about all these big record of Zecs that made you niggas household names. I'm not gonna have nobody talk shit about Clyde Davis when he bit food on a lot of black and brown people plate now.

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Could you please clarify your question?

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Let me know if you are referring to a specific historical event, a cultural tradition, yeah. This is yeah, I can tell this is live. Cancel. That's my that's my tablet. So so so as I go on with this show, rest in peace to the great legendary Clyde Davis from J Records, CBS Records, Arista Records. He's better known. He he did a lot of shit with CBS Records, he did a lot of shit for Aristor, he did a lot of shit for the Atlantic. Clyde Davis pretty much was an instrument with all the majors. And we're not gonna get into the shit when they said that you know we're gonna play the video. I'm not gonna talk about that shit. We got videos we got to play that our publishers and and um, you know, we you know, we gotta, you know, we gotta get it from both sides. That's you know, some of the you know, record company people sent us to air tonight that we are gonna air. But before I air that, I want you know, and some of that stuff is not positive, but understand understand you gotta put both sides out there. I don't wanna be, we're not gonna do the Michael Jackson movie for one hour and have it one-sided. It's always two-sided to everybody's fucking story. I hate when a person pinned a person out like, yo, he was the great, everybody has some bad points, even me got bad points out here. Because I think I think that um I should have done a lot of shit different in my DJ career and my management career. And uh, and and I should not trust a lot of people, and I should not uh uh gave people access to me. Like, you know, I should have, you know, a lot of shit I shouldn't have did in my my career. And uh one thing I will say, the tongue and the fingers. And you know, when you type it too much and when you don't know when to shut the fuck up, that could fuck up a lot of your blessings. And I could tell a person, hey yo, shut the fuck up, but they don't listen. Ain't shit you could do. I could tell an artist, hey man, you should subscribe to this. I could tell an artist, hey man, you should pay into this. I tell a motherfucker you should go to the gym. I say, Don't worry about what I'm doing. I'm telling what you should do. I'm a manager, you're not a manager. If you're not a manager, I manage, I'm gonna tell you what I do in my career. I manage a warehouse, I manage a record company, I manage a DJ crew, I manage a uh uh I do a lot of management shit. So when you have the management shit, you can manage any damn thing. You can manage a fucking uh anything. If you're a manager, you got the manager, boss mentality. You could do anything. It don't matter, it could be music, it could be retail, it could be anything. You just gotta have it in your head. You gotta know you know what the fuck you're doing. I know what the fuck I'm doing. But you don't don't make um don't make me right. Just like Clyde Davis. He knew he had the golden air, he knew talent. Um untold story of Clyde Davis. Guess who else Clyde Davis gave a chance to? Fantasia. Nobody wanted to sign Fantasia. Jay Records, when she got out American Idol, you know, the people from American Idol was trying to get her deals with other labels. Clyde Davis stand up and say, I take her. He took a literate ass Fantasia, and I'm not shitting on you, Fantasia. At the time, you so you told the world you can't read. And I love Fantasia, I love Rico Varino, I love all of them. What I'm trying to say, you said I couldn't read. I wouldn't, I would, I wouldn't even let nobody know I can't read. Fuck it. She like, I can't read. With the money that Clyde gave her, she went back to school. She went to college, she got her, she got her high school diploma, she got it. To my knowledge, she got a college degree down. Guess who paid for that? Aristotle Records, J Records. Excuse me, J Records. When he moved on from Arista, he started his own record label, Clyde Davis did. Named J Records. So many great artists were signed to J Records. Most of your hits from the late 90s, all the 2000s, with J Records, run by Clyde Davis. I don't believe he ever failed in the music industry. He got caught up in some scandals, you know, you know, working with the mafia and shit like that, allegedly. Um, and I'm gonna say allegedly because that's what's out there, but it's his court documents. But Clyde Davis never spent a day in jail, he never was convicted, anything. Not like investigated, yes. But convicted, no. This music industry, when you're mobile and you got power, yes, your power is gonna overrule shit. And guess what? Favors always you pick up favors. It's another uh uh PD from What to Talk Candice. We're gonna talk about. But we won't talk about on here. You gotta be a member at the Patreon. Sorry, won't give out. We got a whole history. They got something to do with him. I ain't gonna say that, I ain't gonna say that PD name over here either from What to Talk Candice. You gotta subscribe to Patreon. Boom, they get that. And have a lot to do with this, Clyde Davis and J Records as well. Gotta be a member at Patreon. We can't drop that tonight. Ha ha! All right, CX1 DJs. We do things different podcasts. It's like a lot of exclusive content is gonna be on Patreon. We ain't gonna do, we ain't gonna give y'all all that. But let's let's let's let's take a moment to understand that Clyde Davis is a music mobile. He passed away of natural causes. No one killed him. Everybody gotta say somebody took him out, the Numenati. How can you take out the Numinati if you are the Numenati? Make that make sense. This man lived 94 of his years. Well, some people, uh a lot of us dying in the streets of Atlanta, dying in the streets of Charlotte, North Carolina, dying in the streets of Chicago, dying in the streets of Wittata, dying in the streets in uh uh St. Louis, dying in the streets of the whole America at a young age. This man lived to 94. So I feel I think if the Newman I was gonna take him out, they would have taken him out a long time ago. He he's 94 years old, ladies and gentlemen. Almost only uh uh what 94, what six years? He'll been 100. He lived longer than my mother and father and sister. So we don't want to sneeze on a 94. I mean, it was his time to go. And we it we, you know, people like he's going to hell. We don't know where this man is going on. I will say this, being I'm into God. We don't know where no one's gonna go when they go. But I will say this. Clyde Davis was a music mobile. He changed a lot of brown and black and Hispanics and whites life with his music air. He gave a lot of black people a chance to be a millionaire. Let's talk about Puffy. Bad Boy Records wouldn't be shit it wasn't for Clyde Davis. How did Puffy get the power he got? Number one, we could we could you could say that he was that he groomed Puffy, there was lovers, whatever that. That ain't my business. Clyde did not never deny that though. But we will we will say that Puff Daddy was a hard worker. Sean Puffy Cones went out there and bust his ass. He bust his ass to get where he was at. No one gave him that. To keep his status, we don't know what he had to do to keep his status. That's up to God and him. But one thing about Puffy and Clyde Davis, they never denied nothing. They never denied their sexuality. Well, Clyde tells everybody he was bisexual. He said he was married and it shit didn't work out, and he wouldn't talk, he never looked at the another opposite of sex or two. The married fail. Sometimes when you get hurt by uh the the wife or the girlfriend, you might say, fuck bitches. But he said he's always was attracted to girls. It was a rumor that him and Whitney Houston had an affair. Is that true? It could be. Whitney was a pretty young lady. She was 18 at the time that she signed with uh Arista Records. It could be. Like we want to know about who's fucking who, who got fucked, and who was in the orgy. Who gives a fuck as long as the music is good, longs the records are selling? Why the fuck do we care who's fucking? I mean, ask yourself, who really? What who who what the fuck are we talking about, ladies and gentlemen? Because I start looking at all the shit online. I'm like, why wanted well, just celebrate. That's why I did this mercy. This is uh exclusive untold stories. Every now and then we got breaking news, we will pay homage to a music mobile. Clyde Davis changed a lot. I want y'all to, you know, y'all like to Google, Google Clyde Davis when we're done. This guy changed a lot of black people's life. I saw uh he did a lot of stuff for white people. Course now, course now. Everybody record. Well, I'm gonna say that real quick before I get into the video part of this. Everybody record contract, unfortunately, was not the same record contract. That's why a lot of black people was pissed off at Clyde Davis, because they they white counterparts had a better contract than them. And that's no allegedly on that. But see, that's the price of beans and steak. So if you got beans on the table, they're gonna give you the bean, you know. You if you're worth beans, nigga, let me let me rephrase that shit. If you worth beans, you're gonna get beans. If you worth steak, you're gonna get steak. I'm gonna break that down for the people that's not that understand what the fuck I just said. If you can't bring in a certain amount of fans, a certain amount of uh record sales, you can't get what the white counterparts could do. At the in the 90s, uh in the 80s, hold on, in the 70s, 60s and 80s, when Clyde was in power, a lot of the white people was not buying the nigga music. Even though you had the funk and shit like that, it was not selling like KISS or David Bowie or the Bruce thing, Breenstein, or Madonna. All the White caliber is always so more than than it is or the black people, whatever the fuck you want to call it. And the record companies knew that. They knew without having a boutique label pushing and shit, then they're gonna take you know, they're gonna take their chances. When black people start making more money in this music industry with Jay Reggis, Aristotle Reggie with Def Jam and Universal, Sony, Columbia, is when the boutique labels got into a place. When you have Rough Rider and Def Jam, you had all these boutique labels like Lafayese and Def Jam and uh Um Uptown Records. That was the that bridge the gap on how you could get in your advances and your points and stuff like that. That's when you have more leverage, when you have another independent label controlling your destiny on top of the major. So they're gonna say, hey man, we like this artist punk and foot. We're gonna say my artist's name. Punk and foot. We're gonna give her two million dollars. That's that's my you know, that's that's the person that's gonna starve this label. The first artist that is the startup artist to launch the to bring the label to his feet. Any independent startup like a boutique or independent label, you have to have your star artist to start that up. So you put all that money into that artist. Only time you're gonna get that big budget, only if you are with a boutique, aka independent label. A major label back then wasn't taking chances with nobody. So all you artists that were signed directly with a major and you oh I'm we talking about Clyde Davis, was signed directly into CBS Records or Arista Records and you have a problem with your contract, you gotta blame your attorney. You gotta blame whoever read this shit, because it's always in the writing. They can't get over what's in the writing. If you are not reading, if you're not paying attention, then you're not gonna understand what's in the writing. And if you don't understand what's in the writing, then when you get fucked, then that's you. Alright. So CX1D's untold story of Clyde Davis. We're gonna get we are gonna get into the video part of this, and I wanna uh you know say rest in peace to his family, rest in peace to Clyde Davis, and much respect to his family and everybody that was involved. But before we play the triple, we have to play uh one of our sponsor records today, and we gotta do that now. Uh actually it's one of our sponsored videos, so we gotta get into that. All right, so we're gonna get into it one second. Alright, hold on. That that ain't that ain't a sponsor video. Hold on, hold on. So, shout out to everybody. Make sure y'all y'all like and subscribe. If you like this show tonight, make sure you like, share, and subscribe to this YouTube channel if you're new here. If you're watching on a different browser, I appreciate you. And um let's get into punkin with the panty girl, shake your body. All right, let's go.

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Your body, body, your body. So crazy hurt. So I think that's all I'm clean. Watch my body, take. I've got you that's my butt. See how my food is, it's got you in the past. Oh, I like how you can do your thing up when you move around. You got me one three or five bags, and that's five of the three bags, and that's five, of course. We haven't fun now, like it when I'm up in the drop it down. And I'ma work it, baby, works a good time, you wanna pay me. So you better make a move while we in the group. Cause if you don't think loose We how this club and trumpet, and we are feeling right. You have this DJ mix it, he knows just what I like. Oh, I like how you walk with me on action. It's unlock with music as the keyboard, they must be must be your body, take your body, take your body to the free, let me see the move your feet, take your body to the feet, let me see the move your feet, take your body to the beat, let me see the move your feet, take your body to the feet, let me see the move your feet. Now I'ma give you a seat up front, back it up on you then tell you what I'm holding, spin it, if they get it low. Start it up fast and then take it slow. Right on the floor, looking for some action. Oh, this picture may just come for sad attack. I see you like my body, you wish you had a picture. I see you watching me. I think I get the picture. So let's kill it beyond me with my curl and all your feet, and you might just get a free.

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Let me see the beat, take your body to the feet, and we'll the feet, take your body to the feet, and we see the feet, take your body to the feet, let me see the feet, take your body to the feet, let me see you the feet, take your body to the feet, let me see you.

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See X one DJs, we do these different podcasts. That was the sponsor song by Punkin' with the Panty Girl. That song is out on all digital platforms. Shout out to T Cap check it in. Um, that's Shake Your Body, that shake your body. It's out on all digital platforms. Punkin' Foot the Panty Girl, Shake Your Body. Alright? So I I wanna I wanna thank everybody for coming out today. Now, now when we're gonna do the now, we're gonna we're gonna definitely pay homage to the late, the late, the great uh Clyde Davis, man. I I I I just this the hearing that he passed away is is it's gonna be a shock and a loss to this music industry. And for people that don't don't understand the game and uh the the format of the record company business, ain't nothing to change. It's the same way. The major still run this shit, it's still payola. You gotta pay to get where you gotta go. Ain't nobody fucking playing your record without they're getting paid. Ain't no DJ spinning your record. You ain't going to no music conference, you're not going to no seminar, you're not getting on no podcast unless you fucking pay. So when they say that uh that he did something wrong with payola, every record exec do payola, every record company do payola. So we just can't pin it on Clyde Davis because he passed away yesterday. He was guilty of payola. Everybody did payola. Who the fuck don't do payola? They just changed it and they make it nice now. Oh. Advertisement. So instead of payola, it's advertisement. You pay for your, you advertise this, we play your music for free. Nigga, please, it's the same shit. It's just dressed up in a fucking bow tie. If you buy if the record company buys a bunch of commercials, and really the commercial is not airing, but you still hear the artist's music every fucking day. And some of this bullshit music is on the stations that I'm hearing now. Only only stations that I that I do like is the independent, like the independent record, independent radio station like mine, CX1. A shameless plug. You go check out my radio station, CX1 DJ's 247 radio on the TuneIn app. Go ahead and download that. And also on Apple Music, Apple Podcasts, CX1 DJ's 24 Cent Radio. Apple Radio, Apple Podcasts. Go check it out. DJ Money beat a mix every Friday and Saturday. Yeah. From 5 to 9. Check it out. 4 to 9. East Coast time. Uh yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna go ahead and pay homage to late, great, record exec, industry mobile Clyde Davis. Alright, I don't want y'all to pay attention to this shit. You know, just pay attention. Y'all ready for me to is y'all ready for the video part? Is y'all ready? You know, let's get into before I play the video. Let's get into what Clyde Davis came. He liked a raw talent. He liked he liked artists that was developed but not developed. He liked the people that really was looking for a way out of the shit they got going on. He he was looking for people that had talent. He didn't care if he was a hardcore rapper, he was a gangster rapper. He didn't care about that. As long as you had the head factor. CX1 DJs unto stories of Clive Davis. Let's let's get you know what? I I can't wait no longer. Let's get into the video part of this. And I want everybody to hold a judgment. There's gonna be some parts of this video that you know is it's two-sided. Two-sided, two-sided story. But before I do that, he always supported the DJs. So let's support DJ Money because Clyde Davis always supported the DJs, like myself. So this is punking with the panty girl, DJ Money, sweetheart. All right, let's go.

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DJ money, money, money, money, money.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I'm so in trouble.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, come on.

SPEAKER_02

You just bring in the base.

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Bring it in the base.

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Hey, hey, hey, hey. DJ money, money, money, money, money.

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We do these types of podcasts. That's pumpkin for the panty girl. DJ Money, Remex, Sweetheart. Uh, yeah, that's off of that. Deryl Bret Nix tape out on all digital platforms. Go check that shit out. Shit is crazy. One thing about Clyde Davis, he liked the underground shit. He fucked with the break beats. He fucked with the DJs. One thing about Clyde Davis and any of these other record execs, he was outside when before the outside word came in. Clyde Davis was outside and he was out there with the niggas. Yes, he was rolling with the mobsters. He was the Gambinos, all the mobsters in New York City. But I'm I can't leave that part out. We ain't gonna leave that out. He was gangster. But in a good way. You learn some shit when you're hanging around on Italians and mobsters. Shut the fuck up. If you didn't learn nothing, stop talking so fucking much. You can talk only when it's time to make money. But you gotta know when to shut the fuck up. On some mafia shit, just shut the fuck up. Now you can run around here after I made you millions of dollars and start saying I owe you money. And I helped your kids go to college. I took care of you at the hood. I changed your life and then you shitting on me. That's bad for business. And nobody in the mafia liked that. Nobody in the industry liked that. You can call it Illuminati, you can call it mafia, you can call it what the fuck you want to call it. And even why this great man, and I'm gonna call him a great man, because I'm not Jesus, I'm not God, I'm not the devil. I can't judge nothing that Clyde Davis did. Any of these people that died. But being I'm a journalist now, and I'm a DJ, this is the CX1 DJs. We do things to the podcast. This is run by DJs. A couple of them, we gotta sprinkle those people down here. That's not DJs. It's run by DJs, journalists, and PRs and managers. So we are not gonna disrespect Clyde Davis on this show. But we won't play the other people's opinions and videos and shit that was sent to us. We will do that. But before I play that, I'm gonna say this right now. The videos I'm playing pretty much ain't. Some of the negative videos is not near our the opinion of the CX1 DJ's coalition LOC or the CX1 DJ brand. We support Clyde Davis, but we also want to be fair to other part parties. I believe in this, I believe in culture. I believe in the street mentality, I believe in the music business. I believe in don't bite the hand at Fiji. I believe in shut the fuck up. Don't shit on a motherfucker. If you think I gave you crumbs and you didn't read your contract, you the bum. No, I'm not the bum. You the bum if you didn't take care of your fucking business. So I'm I'm all for Clyde Davis. RP to Clyde Davis. My name is DJ Butterrock. I am the CEO of CX1 DJ's College LLC. So I'm gonna play these videos, and I don't agree with all of them, but I gotta be fair because I want people to understand that I am fair. And I know some people that say, I was oh, eight million dollars, I sold a hundred million records, and I only got two records, I only got two plaques, I only got uh I only got ten million and he owed me 20 million. Nigga, please. RP to Clyde Davis, CX1D just untold story of Clyde Davis. We celebrating his legacy. Let's get into the video part of this in audio. I want y'all to check this out. Let's go, y'all.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's I guess it's um there's definitely uh an extension, I think, of what uh the first two were all about. You know, this is just an extension of me, you know.

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I think it really is a natural progression.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, a natural progression.

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More spontaneous, you can feel it when you see her enter the stage.

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The Whitney Houston who electrifies an audience today is a far cry from the shy, introverted 19-year-old who signed with Clive Davis in 1983.

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When I met her, she was doing two songs in the midst of her mother, Sissy Houston's club act, if you will. Oh, her voice, her raw talent voice, was exquisite, big, intense, natural, soulful.

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I really didn't know him for myself until, you know, the years started going on. I said, wow, this man is really important. This is an important guy. Um you know what you you don't you don't know what's going to happen. You know, you just, you know, hope for the best. And um we did it, I think.

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Uh P Diddy. Diddy. Like puppy. What do you make of that situation? Well, pass my desk in my breath. No comment from Clive Davis on P. Diddy. Mr. Davis, you are a major influence on the career of P. Diddy. Have you spoken to him since the federal raid? Have you spoken to Sean Combs? Any comment, Mr. Davis? Any comments about Diddy? He credits you as one of his mentors.

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Clive Davis was born on April 4th, 1932, in New York City. He was a music producer, a lawyer, and a record executive. The word legend gets thrown around a lot, but he's absolutely a legend. He's been called the man with the golden ears. He was the president of Columbia Records, Arista Records, and his own label, J Records. The list of musicians he signed or worked with over the years is staggering. He also liked to reintroduce classic artists. He received five Grammys and he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the year 2000 as a non-performer. He attended New York University College of Arts and Science and received a degree in political science. After graduating from Harvard Law School in 1956, he started practicing law. CBS was one of his clients, and Clive was hired by a subsidiary called Columbia Records to be their assistant counsel. Eventually he became the vice president and general manager of CBS Records. He also worked for RCA, BMG North America.

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And what do you look for, Angela? Well, you look for originality. You look for something to say. It depends on the kind of uh talent. You never know where you're going to find them, really. Uh but when you see them, when they have that spark of originality, when they have that spark of uh whether it be as a performer or whether it be as a writer, uh you just know. I feel truthfully, I feel that little tingle. You know, that proverbial it might be a cliche, but you feel that tingle is. And you just know that you're in the presence of somebody special.

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How do you describe Clive Davis? There's an infomercial about him now, which is a document, it's been called a documentary. And it makes him look like this benign octagenarian that's helping all these rock stars with their careers. But people in the music industry really don't like Clive Davis, most of them. And the his criminality is kind of amazing. He he got busted for filing false tax returns three times, and then defronting the IRS three times. He was involved in the biggest payola scandal. That's when record companies give money to uh radio stations to play their songs. He was part of the biggest payola scandal of all time as president of ABC Records. And then there was a General Basy crime guy named Pasqual Felcone. And he got busted smuggling 22 pounds of heroin into the United States.

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Uh until through my second marriage. I've got four kids and grandkids. I opened up myself after the failure of my second marriage, never having had anything with a man, to see could I be attracted to the person and not the gender. And I did find that I could be attracted uh to a man while I still am very attracted to a woman. So the adage that you're either gay straight or lying is not true. And so I deal with that um in my book. Uh at the end of the book, obviously the whole book is about my is my life and music, but I was not gonna write about my autobiography um and not include that. And I do hope that society is moving forward to accept the person rather than their preference at the given time. There's no question that Whitney digs deep and finds the meaning and really conveys it in a way that I know the composers never felt even when they uh wrote the song. But then there was also you know, the challenge that Whitney also is known for I want to dance with somebody and how will I know and I'm every woman and it's not right, but it's okay. So there's the temple, there's the temple, because to me she might talk about her daughter, but I saw her when she was really 18 years old, and so that you know, she more than any other author communicates youth, she communicates vitality, she has a contemporary feel, and that although she does reflect the maturity of the lyric of songs and digs deep, yet when that lyric floats or that lyric moves, you feel it within Whitney, and we all feel it when we're with all the hoopla that's gone on in the last year that video games would replace music and computers would replace music and records were on their way out or tapes.

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It's turned out to be total hot wash. Music is unique, music is special, music has a very uh individual, uh meaningful role in society, not only to youth, but to the 25 to 58 bracket as well. And we have not only survived, but we're flourishing now.