Ep. 10 : Wigstock 2026

Long time listener and first time guest, Maegan joins the Run On Sentence podcast!  Live from Brooklyn

Transcript

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New Weave 22 inches, baby. Get into it. What's up, y'all? It's me, Jack. And that's right, I'm back and wigged at the gig for the 10th episode of Run on Sentence.

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You know what? And another thing.

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Let's just jump right into it and get to the very obvious and exciting news. What's new, Jackie Pooh? Well, uh, this uh big ol' wig is new, baby. That's right. I, for the visual watchers on YouTube, uh, you can see it loud, live, and in color. Uh, if you are an audio listener, then I'll you know let you in on a little secret. I got a male unit install this week. My first wig. I talked about it last week on the pod, but I started losing my hair around 17, 18 when I kind of like malnourished myself and it started to fall out pretty like quickly within like a six-month span, it started to thin, and then it stayed at that thin state for like four more years, and then in the last like three, four years, 2022 into 2023 is when it really started to just completely go on the top of my head. And I don't know, I kind of just wanted a fun new option to work with. So I found a cool place on Long Island that does mail installs, and I gave it a shot. I have like had kind of ups and downs with it the last 24 hours. I literally just got it yesterday, and I was really obsessed with it when I first got it. It was like wet and wavy, and it was styled down just the way I wanted it to be. I wanted it more kind of what it's getting right now, um, like, you know, more on my forehead, brushed forward, messy, wavy, uh, not like perfect and styled and like um with using a lot of product or anything. I did too much with my hair when I had hair growing up. Like I was it had to be perfect. I spent like hours before school in front of the mirror and like obsessed over how my hair looked, and then looking back at pictures, it really didn't even look that good. I used a lot of hairspray, I used a lot of gels, like I really needed it to be like structured and perfect, and probably has something to do with my Virgo-ness and my OCD-ness. But I just did not want that look, especially with a wig. I feel like that could I want any like hard hairlines or anything. I didn't really want it out of my face and you know, super revealed. Uh, not that it's a secret, obviously. I'm telling people about it, it's really not that big of a you know secret anyway. Like, even if I was trying to keep it a secret, like it's really not that serious. And it was great yesterday when I first got it done, and then I was like FaceTiming friends and showing it to people, and I was playing with it a lot, and you can't get the unit wet for the first 24 hours, so you don't mess up the adhesive, and he had used a little bit of like texture spray when I was there and a little bit of um like styling cream, so by the t at by the end of the night, like with me touching it plus the product that was in it, it was like more like voluminous and like not as like natural and clean as I wanted it to be, and then I couldn't shower and get the product out, and then I slept on it. Uh, and when I woke up this morning before work, I made it work and I like styled it good enough for what I had to work with, but like it wasn't exactly what I wanted it to be, and it was very much styled today while I was at work the way that I used to style it in high school, which is like not what I wanted. So the whole day I was like kind of like anxious and on edge of like, bitch, this looks like a fucking wig because I was just like not happy with it. It does it didn't really look like a wig. All my coworkers were very impressed with it, they were gagged at how real it looked. It is really unclockable for the most part. I mean, I sometimes catch a glimpse of it and think it looks wiggy because I know that it is, and I'm so used to seeing myself without hair at this point. But to the untrained eye, and to somebody that doesn't know me, like looks completely unclockable. Very excited for the you know fun little challenges this is gonna present in my life. I'm gonna have to like relearn how to do hair. It's something that I've I've become so used to not doing my hair. It was something I did and spent way too much time doing growing up. And the last like six years, I've pretty much worn hats every day. So I've gotten used to just like getting up at the latest possible minute and throwing a hat on and brushing my teeth and hitting the door. So it's gonna be a little bit of a learning curve to, you know, give myself the allotted time to get my hair where I want it before I leave. Um, yeah, I had said in last week's episode I planned on asking him to tape the unit down and thought that that was gonna give me more versatility with like taking it on and off. Like if I wanted to wear a hat and didn't want to wear it on top of the unit, I could just take it off pretty easily compared to gluing, which obviously you would need more of an involved process to take that off and put it back on. Uh, but he was like, I don't think you understand like how adhesive the tape is, though. It's just as adhesive as the glue. It's really just a matter of like what maintenance you want to learn how to do and get comfortable with. It's either you learn how to cut the tapes and place the tapes and do that for yourself and learn how to take those on and off with the unit, or learn how to do it with the glue. It's gonna be just as much work and maintenance either way. It's just like a matter of like pick your path, which one do you want to learn how to do? So I still had him do the tapes only because that's what I went in expecting. Uh, and I am very surprised at how much durability it seems that the tapes have. Uh, he was wearing one himself and he was like, I've had this tape down for two weeks. I just got back from Florida, I've been in and out of the pool, in and out of the ocean, you know, shower with it on. He's like, this just doesn't, it doesn't come off. You can do everything with it. You just have to like clean the lace line every couple of weeks, shampoo it lightly, and condition it normally, um and just rock with it. Yeah, I'm excited. It's a fun little side quest and fun little chapter. I don't know if I'll, you know, wear one long term. I might be really over it by the time this unit is like at the end of its lifespan, and I might not want to get another one. Uh, but it's, you know, a fun change of pace for now. So you'll be seeing a lot more of my head from now on. Uh, now that I won't be wearing hats, but honestly, I gotta say, I had a concern that like I wasn't gonna be able to wear hats on top of it because I thought it would feel weird, and I have so many hats at this point in my collection from years of wearing them that I'm like, I can't never wear any of these anymore. I love them. And I can now wear a hat backwards without it looking the fool. It looks really hot and sexy with uh backwards hat on now with like the hair popping through it. So I still will be wearing hats on top of this, I think. That's been great for the last like 30 hours that I've had it on, and I'll keep you updated weekly to see how the journey's going. And what else is new? I am actually going to try to build a leather jacket for the Rocky Horror show that me and Carly are going to see next week. I am trying to replicate the pin jacket that Frank wears for a little portion of the movie. I have been at another war on Facebook Marketplace, War Never Changes. Uh the people on Facebook Marketplace just make my blood boil. I've been trying to find a vintage real leather jacket on there for a decent price because I have a leather jacket. It's beautiful, it's a motocross jacket, it's covered in fringe. I don't want to ruin it with pins. Not that it would be ruining the jacket, it would look amazing, but I want a separate jacket that I can keep the pins on forever and wear, you know, just that way and then have my fringe jacket separate. So I've been looking for a jacket. I have been back and forth with so many people on Facebook that are so flaky and so like don't set up a time if you're not going to show up. I had somebody say, Yeah, let's meet at 10:30. That's perfect. And then the whole morning they're just not answering me. And I had to go to the area that they were, you know, planning to meet up anyway to like run errands and get cash out and stuff for the wig. Um, so I like drove down to that area regardless. And I was like, All right, I'm gonna be in the area still. Like, if you see this, please let me know. Okay, it's past the time. Where are you? Okay, I can't wait anymore. I have to go, I have stuff to do. If you're around later, let me know. And then they text me that night being like, oh, so sorry, family emergency. Bitch, I don't believe you. I don't believe you, family emergency. That's always a family emergency. Uh, it's just don't post something if you don't plan on selling it. I don't get it. I had another woman, perfect jacket, exactly what I was looking for.$50, genuine leather, you can't beat it. I hit her up, I said, hi, I'm out to sushi with friends right now. I'm around to pick this up in the next two, like in two hours. Are you free? She said, Yes, perfect. Would love to meet up. Here's my address. I opened my phone to text her. Hi, I'm done with dinner. I'm on my way. I'll be there in 15 minutes. She responds, hey, sorry. My son actually wants to keep it. Removes the listing from marketplace. Bitch, fuck off. So I went thrifting to two different antique stores to find actual like vintage pins and patches to put on the jacket. So I guess this is a great segue into our hoarder haul. Uh, I ended up finding pins at both locations and patches at one of them. I spent a little bit more money than I hoped to spend on them. I was also looking for a leather jacket that ended up being fruitless. I wasn't able to find anything in person at any stores. So I did end up just ordering a pleather motocross leather jacket from Amazon for 21 bucks. It is totally like fine and as perfect as a pleather jacket can be for what I'm looking for. Uh, and honestly, the pleather is a little bit of like a you know looser, more like malleable material that I think the pins will go into a lot easier uh than like you know, thick real leather. And then I found 35 pins at the first place that I went to because I wasn't sure that the place across the street was gonna have any. So I wanted to like get as many as I could that I liked at the first place in case I couldn't find any more, uh, and then just order like filler ones on Amazon if I couldn't find any more than that. Uh, but the first place that I went to had all the patches as well. So I got 10 patches. Frank's jacket has 10 patches in total on the arms, at least five and five on each arm. There's a couple of patches on the back also that I just don't have the time to find. It's like a big British flag, a big tiger head, uh, and a couple of other things that like are so specific that I would want it to be exact, and I can't find them anywhere right now. Uh, and the patches on the arms can just be kind of random. So I got a bunch of you know, tattered vintage patches from the first place, and then the pins that the first place had were a lot of buttons, like you know, circular pins with pictures and sayings on them. Half of them were really cute and were exactly what I was looking for. The other half were more like vote for Leslie for you know town senate, like it's it's you know, stupid pins that really should have cost like 25 cents each. I brought all 35 pins up to the register because there was no price on the little like toolbox that they were stored in. And I was like, I don't know how much all of these are, but like I think there's 35 of them. And he was like, Oh, they're two dollars each. Fuck out of here. Two dollars each for these half of them are like like nothing pins, like they don't mean anything, like I'm just using them as filler. I was like, whoa, and he was like, Yeah, yeah, but I'll only charge you for 25 of them. And I was like, okay, whoop do you do? That's still fifty dollars. Um, which I guess was like a three for five deal, technically, which okay, whatever. Big like they should have been like 25 cents to 50 cents each, but I I needed them. And then I also got the 10 patches, which were$2 each. It was like$84 total. I got a CD there also, got the pins, the patches there, and then I went across the street and I found actual like metal brooches and cute like trinket type uh pins there. So I got a bunch of those also. I think I got like 20 from there, and they had better deals on them. Uh, you know, one's like a little spoon, one's like a little gold heart with a rose in it, one's like a little cherry uh stem, it's one's a rose. Uh it's there there was a much cuter selection there. I wish I went there first because I would have spent much less money at the second place. Now I have way too many pins. They're not all gonna fit on the jacket, so I don't know what I'm gonna fucking do with these like stupid like vote for me for mayor pins that I bought for nothing at this point. Um, but whatever, I'll find something to do with them. But uh yeah, that was everything I found for the Frank jacket. I'm gonna put that together tonight, actually, when I'm done filming this. And let's get into some physical media that we got for the Hoarder Hall. Like I said, I got a CD at that first antique store also. It was American Beauty by The Grateful Dead. I also found a large list of other CDs. I found Metamorphosis by Hilary Duff, brand new, sealed in the plastic. I found Flesh and Blood by Poison. I found Hard Candy, The Counting Crows, Aja from Seely Dan, Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, House of the Holy by Led Zeppelin, the first Nirvana compilation that Nirvana put together, In Utero by Nirvana, Bangers by Miley Cyrus. Baby, when I tell you, I was breathing heavy when I found that on the shelf. I was so excited. I found Baby One More Time by Miss Brinty Spears, and we found Dirty by Sonic Youth. And for DVDs, we only found five this week, but they were some pretty great finds. It was a very like childhood movie-centric uh haul this week for DVDs. We found 17 again, but the like Showtime version with Tia and Tamara. I don't really remember exactly like the theme and like points in this movie, but when I saw the cover, I was like, it unlocked a deep, like recessed memory in my mind, and I was like, whoa, I have seen this movie and I can't tell you when, but like I need to watch this movie again. This is gonna like open a flood of memories. And we found Halloween Town High on DVD babies. I was lit in the savers when I found that. I had to pick it up. I also found That's So Sweet Life of Hannah Montana. You better get the fuck out of here. So, so so exciting. And non-childhood movie related. I found The Grand Budapest Hotel, another Wes Anderson film, and I found Punked, season two, uh, with Ashton Kutcher. I almost didn't get it, uh, but then I read the episode list and I was like, I have to pick this up because the last episode of season two is the iconic episode where they punk Beyoncé at that Christmas fair, and she's doing the like the star topper on the tree, and they make her think that she knocked the whole tree over and like ruined Christmas for everyone. It is so like iconic in reality TV history. So, well, I guess it's not reality TV, but you know what I mean. And for VHS is I found a streetcar named Desire with Miss Marlin Brando, Setsy, Setsy, Setsy. And I found Ghosts in the Machine, which for like a hot second when I saw it on the shelf, I thought it was Ghost in the Shell, uh, which I already have on VHS, but my friend Carly, who introduced me to Ghost in the Shell, uh doesn't have a VHS player, but I'm sure would love a copy of it on VHS because the box is really cute. But then I took it off the shelf and I was like, oh wait, I actually have no idea what this is. It seems like a serial killer dies or gets killed, and his consciousness transfers into a computer, and he then continues like his antics and his crime through like a computer. I don't know, it's very like Scooby-Doo Cyber Chase-esque. Uh, we'll see. I'll give it a watch in a couple of weeks. And for the final VHS, I found a recording of La Bohem, my favorite opera, uh, at the Net Opera from 1983, I think it is. Um, I just thought it was a cute thing to have in my collection. And backtracking to Chochki is I know we already talked about all the pins and stuff that I got, but I also decided this week, as I said, it is my birthday next week on Tuesday, the 14th, and I decided to get myself a little birthday present. My brother decides to be like, You do realize you could have just bought Fallout 4 for the PlayStation that's in the house. And I was like, you know what? That would have been a lot cheaper, but then I wouldn't be able to take it with me everywhere. That's kind of the appeal of the Switch, is now I get to play Fallout like on the train, on a road trip, uh, you know, like anywhere that I want to bring it, which is very exciting. That's been really fun uh for games for the Hoarder Hall. Like I said, I bought Skyrim and Fallout 4. I was gonna buy the new Mario Kart uh World game also, but it is just so ridiculously expensive that I just can't fathom purchasing that as well right now. The Switch was expensive enough, plus the wig. Like, I can wait a little bit. I don't need to play Mario Kart right now. I'll just ride it out, you know, get a couple more paychecks, and then I'll feel a little more comfortable spending$90 motherfucking dollars on one game Nintendo, you need to get over yourself and lower the prices of your games. It is so ridiculous. But that concludes this week's hoarder haul. So let's get into the content corner. I have been listening to a lot of great music this week. My top song of the week is definitely gonna be Goodnight and Go by Imogen Heap. I am so obsessed with Imogen Heap. Her music is so in a category of its own that you really it's completely incomparable. Like, she is such a creative visionary, and her music is just like no other. Uh, and Goodnight and Go is just one of her best works. I have also been obsessed with Ladies in the Canyon by Joni Mitchell. I've been very much back in my Joni rotation the last few weeks. Um, the song that's been bopping the most in the last like two days is My Lovin', You're Never Gonna Get It by En Vogue. I was listening to, I forget which station it was at work the other day. It was some some radio, and My Lovin' by Envogue came on, and I was like, ooh, bitch, never gonna get it, never gonna get it. Like it sent a chill through my body. I was like, oh, I forgot about this song, and I was like strutting around the tasting room, uh, just living my life to that song. Whoa woo whoa! It's just too funky and too groovy. Uh, so that has been heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy in my rotation the last like three days. And to top it off, one song that came on my Spotify DJ rotation yesterday that was just like a knife stab to the heart, and I was like, God, this motherfucking song, baby, it's the city by the 1975. Self-titled by the 1975, just takes me down this emotional rabbit hole that I'm like never really emotionally prepared for, but like never like know how much I need it until I'm in it. It is just so nostalgic and devastating but healing at the same time. It's that whole album. No skips. And for TV, I have not been watching any of my shows. Buffy, nothing. Big Love, nothing. Even The Rookie, I haven't watched anything this week. I've just been pretty busy. And the only TV I've gotten around to watching is like a little bit of live TV here and there when I'm like home and like eating my lunch or something. I mean, I'm never really home that often, except at night, uh, and I'm just like doing fun creative things. Um, but I caught a little bit of Charmed on the Roku Live TV. I love throwing that on in the background. Uh, My Girls, P3, and uh I also started watching a little bit of this um show called Cold Case, which I don't think I've ever seen before. I turned it on because I thought it was like forensic files. I thought it was like a real like docuseries type TV show, but it is like SVU type filming, but for cold cases. Uh, and it's honestly really good. You know, it's very much that like 2010s style crime TV, and I love the like back and forth flashbacks of characters as their old selves, like obviously being interviewed and questioned by modern police officers, but you know, it's a cold case. They're getting asked about a case from years and years ago. I love the flashes of the young version of themselves actor and the older versions actor, like in the middle of a conversation. It's edited really well. Um, so it might be if I can find it on a streaming service, it might be like a new criminal minds like SVU type binge watch show for me. Very exciting. And that's gonna be it for TV uh for games this week. Like I said, I got Fallout 4, so I've been playing that a lot. I have not started playing Skyrim yet. I can only take so much open world gaming that's like building a new Fallout character, deciding what like factions I'm gonna go with, and like how I want to play this run through of the game. I cannot do that with Skyrim also, because Skyrim is like so much more convoluted than Fallout even is, and Fallout is can be convoluted enough with all the factions. So I'm gonna wait until this playthrough of Fallout is done before I start Skyrim. But yeah, that's gonna it for the content corner, guys. So uh let's get into the self-interview section. Because if you can't interview yourself, how in the hell are you gonna interview somebody else? Jack, thanks so much for being in the studio. Love the new look, by the way. This hair, who would have known? Uh so the burning question on everyone's lips this week uh why can't you commit to using a letterbox? You have so many DVDs and VHSs and movies in your collection. You've been much more committed to watching movies lately, as you've said on the pod and in recent interviews. Why can't you just uh give the people what they want and commit to a letterboxed account? Jack, don't even get me started. First of all, thank you so much for the question and thank you so much for noticing the hair. I am very happy with it. Um, but why can't I hold myself to a letterboxed account? It is just too daunting. I have tried numerous times to start one. I mean, I I made one account one time and I've signed back into it a handful of times to try and motivate myself to do it. Uh, because you know me, I love a collection, I love a catalog, I love having, you know, a list and a physical thing to look at of like all of the things I've seen. That would be great. But I just get so overwhelmed when I try to do it. I uh try to sit there and think back to and like backlog all of the things I've seen in my entire life, and I just it never ends. And I'm just like, I don't want to sit here and like just think of endless movies that I've seen and like rank them and try to think of what I thought of them at the time, like you know, your perception changes. If I watch the movie again right now, I might feel a totally different way about the way I'm remembering it right now in this moment. So that's just so daunting. And I just I don't know. It just doesn't ever come easy to me. I know people love their letterbox, but it's just something that never has stuck for me. It isn't like a appealing pastime for me. I I just I don't like it. I don't like it. It's it's too overwhelming. Well, now that we put that to bed, let's get into some dragooning. I mean, if we really must. I don't even really want to do this segment anymore. I'm really glad that the season is almost over. We have one more episode this week, and then the finale is next week, and then we are done with this Godforsaken season. I am giving very little airtime to this episode because it was just some like fluff and foolish uh like uh giggery. I am really over this television show. They need to do something so major with the next season to make me want to keep watching this. I just don't I mean I don't know what they could do at this point. This week's episode, it was the good morning bitches, like daytime talk show, uh improv challenge. I think it's a really strange challenge to do for a final four. Usually they do like a music video or like you know, write your own lyrics, uh dance singing challenge. I just don't see how this was a good challenge to like end the season on. Um obviously Mikey mopped the fucking competition. She mopped the floor with these bitches. Darlene really, you know, like held her own, did a really incredible job. I don't think it was a double win deserved performance. I mean, I'm happy for the two of them, as long as Mikey won also, but I think Mikey definitely shown a little bit more than Darlene and could have just taken the solo win, but I was totally fine with it because Darlene did really incredible also. Um, I am really glad that Juicy went home. I cannot believe Juicy even made it to top four. Uh her performance was as expected, shit. Uh Nini Coco's wig was as expected, shit. Um, but her performance was like okay in the challenge. Her runway was the best runway she's worn the entire season. Uh Juicy's runway was boot, nasty, crunchy, ugly, fuggo, nastiness. And Mikey's was kind of lackluster for Mikey. Uh, she's looked much better on the runway before, but she looked stunning. It was fine. It wasn't anything to write home about, but it certainly wasn't bad. Um, and Darlene deserved to be like burned alive on the stage for what she wore down the runway. It was really atrocious. Excited for the finale. I can't wait to see my girl Mikey get crowned. If anyone else besides Mikey wins, I'm not watching the show anymore, and that's a promise. Well, that is all I have on my end for the week. But Carly came up with a really cute idea. She loved my episode last week with Liam as my first Evil Evel. My first Evel special guest. Uh, so she wanted to be the second ever special guest, and she thought, what better way to do it than to do it with herself and Olivia together? So we are going to film a little segment as our little, you know, best friend trio, uh, the power of three baby, and I'm gonna bring all of my equipment to Brooklyn on Tuesday for my birthday, and we're gonna film a very special segment for this week's podcast on the night of my 26th birthday. So, with that being said, we're gonna throw it over to future Jack, Liv, and Carly in the Brooklyn studio. So, change of plans. Uh, Carly and Liv's schedules didn't line up perfectly for what I wanted to shoot with them for the last segment of this week's episode. But my beautiful friend Megan was available today, and me, Carly, and Liv.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Thank you, thank you. Just saying hi.

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Um, me, Carly, and Liv are just gonna film like a full week's episode tomorrow for next week's episode of the pod, so stay tuned for that. But we're still in Brooklyn, we're in Dumbo today. It is my birthday. It is 80 motherfucking degrees outside. It is the like you said before, the best possible weather you could ask for for an April birthday. It's a little hot, honestly. I wouldn't have worn all black if I thought it was gonna be this warm. And I don't want to hear anything. I understand that I am outfit repeating for the first time on the pod. It'll probably happen again, so I might as well break it now. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

I mean, it's your birthday. I was gonna say thank you so much, Jack. Happy birthday. And I think it's your right to outfit repeat. I'm a big fan of outfit repeating personally. Um, especially when you look this damn good. It's also the first day of summer, as Jack said. I fucking love New York City and I love summer, and here we are on this beautiful day. What more could you want?

SPEAKER_02 31:28

I know. But summer came early this year, very exciting. Uh yeah, so we got our bubble tea, courtesy of Megan. Thank you. She got it for me for my birthday. I'm drinking a little Thai bubble tea, and you got the strawberry milk tea. Kung Fu tea, you can't beat it. I can't beat it. Um Yeah, so thank you, Megan, for being here. I will have some Rocky horror updates tomorrow. We actually are seeing it tonight on my birthday instead of the day after tomorrow. But I will update about that when we debrief the entire show. I did just get some really beautiful news. There were some complications, and the complications have been resolved. Um, and we just got the call literally right before we started rolling. Some beautiful alignments and uh divine intervention from the universe. What a perfect person to have with me before I go see the show tonight. Megan and I actually went to our senior prom together in high school, um high school besties, and I, like I have said before, have done Frankenfurter drag a couple of times at this point. And the first time I did it was for our senior class's lip sync smackdown battle in our choir class. And the day that we were doing it, Megan asked me to go to prom with her while I was in Frank Drag. It was very, very cute.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

Yes, so I remember we had talked about it, maybe going together.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

It was not like, you know, a formal thing, but I think I'm gonna throw some shade because I know you're listening to Carly. I was originally gonna go with Carly, and then our friend Harry asked her, and instead of saying, Oh, I already have a date, I'm going with Jack, she said yes to Harry and dubbed me.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

So And I just wasn't gonna go, so it was kind of kismet, and good word, kismet. Um, I remember somebody had told me that you were in drag because we were hanging out by the band room backstage kind of area of the high school. Um, and so I took a little construction paper as one does in the high school days, and I thought that it would be really cute to ask you. I wrote, um, prom would be a drag without you. And we have a really cute photo of you and your makeup and like fishnets. I loved it, and it was really funny also because I surprised you, like, it was more for that the gag of it, but um and then we went to prom and we had a beautiful time and we wore navy blue, and I still love our prom pics, Jack. Like my dress was a little gross, but it was cute, overall cute. We look cute.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

No, I think I remember being so obsessed with those prom picks because at the time that was like the skinniest I had become. Like that was right at the end of senior year, and I had dropped so much weight. But then looking back at them, I was like, oh, the the signs were there, girl. The ED was creeping up behind. It was there they are. Let's go back. No, we looked really good. Navy babies, yeah, we were looked really good. Um and then further to you out, the lip sync battle. The the two judges for the lip sync battle were the two gym teachers of all people. I don't know why we decided those were like the right homophobic and like they were the like uh the like artistic voices we wanted to hear, like judge this. No, it was it was a very interesting choice. And everyone obviously agreed that I gave the best performance and should have won best lip sync, and instead they gave me the title of the person that has made them most uncomfortable in their entire life. So support the arts, right? In full drag 17-year-old in full drag, like exposed enough. Um but yeah, now we live to tell the tale and we've done plenty more queer things since then. And here we are. Megan just moved to the city like not even a month ago. Like what, two weeks ago?

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Two weeks ago, two weeks ago, uh moved in with my fiancee and just getting delayed the land. Been to the city before, obviously, like growing up in Long Island, but um I love the city and I was so excited to move here. Oh my gosh. And for days like this, also it's like the beginning of spring, but it's already fucking summer, it's eighty-five. And it's just so fun being out and about. It's also Tuesday and I don't have to work, so I'll love that. Um part-time gigs for the win. Love it. And yeah, I can't wait for you to come join me. I know.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

I have forever been like, oh, I don't know if like I've living in the city was always like a childhood dream of mine. Uh but then the older I've gotten, the more I come to visit. I always get more on the fence each time I come because I'm like I've gotten so accustomed to having the beach right down the road from your house and like having your car and driving through the like open fields of Long Island, but there's always there's so much artistic opportunity in the city. All my friends are here, like I flip-flop back and forth so hard, but it would be so ridiculous of me not to give it like the good old college try and like give it a year. Um, so it's gonna have to happen eventually. Um, but yeah, what do you think your like number one most like anticipated aspect of living in the city is gonna be? Besides, like, because you've already been doing the one thing I know you were looking forward to most, was which is like just taking a lot of walks, going to museums, like just being outside more, having more accessibility, not needing a car. Because you did not to tell her story, I'll let her tell her story, but you did a master's degree one-year program in London last year, and then you moved back home to Long Island for a couple of months with your fiance and didn't have a car, and that's kind of like insane on Long Island. You have to have a car to go anywhere. So I'm sure that was insanely difficult to like navigate living for months. So I'm sure it's amazing to have all that accessibility in trains now. Um, so besides all that, I mean you can speak on that too, but like what's what are you looking most looking forward to?

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Well, I will speak on the public transit because that is my biggest thing literally in life. Like, I don't know, it's something that I realized also probably a little before going to London of just like what I'm interested in is like public infrastructure is so interesting. Walking somewhere, because I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina, very not walkable, very small, one of the most sprawling cities. Uh and it's like very dangerous too. But even just like ugly, like walking around, I was like, this is really such a shame because it can be a beautiful city. Yeah, yeah. London got used to not having a car, the tube is amazing. Um and so moving here where it's like little communities everywhere where you can just walk and like people do things in the park. Like Long Island is beautiful today. Um Long Island is full of cool places and it really does have a nice uh history. Now it's kind of fucked with the people that are like in general. Yeah, like it's beautiful, but the the car thing is just uh it's unlivable. You need a car there. So six months of living at my parents' house where we grew up was rough. Um and that's the biggest fresh breath of fresh air to like move in somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

I also felt for you even harder because both well, not both your parents, your dad is retired. Both my parents are retired. It definitely changes the dynamic when they're like home all the time. Even when you are not home all the time and working the time that you are home, they like have had nothing going on. So they're like, How was your day? What are you doing? And it's like it's a lot, especially after living away from home and then coming back home, it's a big readjustment.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

It's they're so annoying. Parents in general are so annoying. And that was the biggest thing, also getting away from my parents, because like we've briefly mentioned, I'm engaged, and we were subjecting him also to hanging out with my parents all the time. Not very fun. But other than that, um the next greatest thing about the city, the food. Can I tell you that I have had some of the best meals uh just in my neighborhood, whatever in the city, in my whole life? Like they have the best restaurants here. So I am excited to eat my way through the damn city, Jack. That is my final answer. Yeah, I truly love it.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

What I know we discussed it on the train before, but I don't think you gave me your full answer. What would your death row meal be then?

SPEAKER_00 39:07

Okay, so I would start with a small Greek salad. Nothing special, straight up, chopped though. Um, and then I would do another appetizer, maybe a flatbread, and I'm gonna go with like a classic Italian caprese, mozzarella, like maybe some pesto, maybe. Um and then for like the main, I do uh like a meat. I'm a big fan of a meat, so maybe a big old steak. Like a good meat. I don't know. Not like I'm not too particular, I guess. About steak. Like if it's a good steak, it's gonna be good. I also really like barbecue, like something like meaty. Um and then a pasta. I'm gonna throw in there Pennayella vodka. I could eat every day. I eat that all the time. Seriously, and I would end with a big fat bowl of tier masou. And throughout this meal, I'm also drinking probably two bottles of wine. That's my favorite meal, right? Red or why it both, but red, probably. White during the day, like I don't know. I don't have strict rules about it. Some people are like really annoying about it. So I know I said red meat or whatever. Well, okay, we'll defer to you on like what what pairs with my meal, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

Well it kind of depends on like the course that you're going with. Like, obviously the red meat, go with something red, um, but the salad, definitely something crisp, white, light, the pasta, you said pana a la vaca. You can do white with that also, or red, it's kind of interchangeable. I I would say it depends on the pasta that you're going with. If you're doing like an orzo, something like fresher lemon, anything like um like chicken picata, like something like or um anything with like a lemon sauce, something zestier, you're gonna do a white, but you can get down if you're doing like a little meat in the vodka sauce too, definitely do a red. Um but you really can't go wrong. I drink whatever with whatever, you know, I'm not like too picky about it either. Um but there is an art to it.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Can I ask your um pick your brain on some wine? What's your favorite like wine regions for a red? Because I'm learning a little bit of things that I like, and I know that Argentina has good, like the type of semi-sweet reds that I like, maybe malbecks or something.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

So what would your like do you have a region, I guess, or a type of yeah, I probably would go for more for red specifically. I would go for more of like a Beaujolais or like a game. Something lighter, something very I'm very into like low tannin, soft, silky texture, not a real like big, astringent bite. I don't really like super bold, heavy reds. I can get down with them. They like fit circumstar like certain circumstances. You need them with certain food. Um, but I'm usually reaching for bright fruit forward, maybe a little plummy. I can do like a little stone fruit, a little dark, but like usually something lighter, more like red fruit, raspberry driven, and super light, soft tannins. Whites, probably more like a sans serre. Um uh I need something like minerally. I like like salt, salinity, um, crisp, super dry. I don't really get down with like a New Zealand Sablanc. Sablanc is like kind of tired and played out for me. I work on the North Fork wine region, and Sablanc is like the white grape next to Chardonnay, and like I'm just tired of it. Um, but if it's done in like in a Sanseur style, I can totally get down with that. I always hate that uh the tasting note of like it's giving like river rock, riverbed. It's like, girl, okay, it's it's got minerality.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

You know what I'm sick of, and what my mom drinks and her whole family drinks is buttery Chardonnay. I can't do it. That's what I think I that's what I associate white wine with, and so I lean red, I guess, more for because of that, but that like scarred me. I hate a buttery shard.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Chardonnay is making a comeback though, because of like our generation that like that is what we think of when we think, oh, let me get a white wine, let me get a Chardonnay. And it's usually like oaked to hell. It's knocking you off your chair with like that big, bold oakiness. It's like it's like lacquery almost. It like stays on your palate way too long, it's thick. Um there's a process called malolactic conversion where you allow the mallow acid to convert to lactic acid and all different types of wine, but with chardonnay, it's what gives it that dairy quality. Um, and then you age it on the leaves for a certain amount of time, which is the yeast. Once it dies after fermentation, you leave it in the barrel, and then there's a process called batonage or yeast aggravation where you like stir up the yeast into the barrel and into the wine uh periodically. So the longer you do that, the more of that texture and creaminess it's gonna have. So, like working in tandem with the lactic acid is what gives it like the buttery dairy experience. You can do like this is something from Belongs that my vineyard serves that is lease-aged but not malolactic for uh conversion. So it doesn't have dairy quality to it, but it has a heavier texture, which is delicious. But I find our generation really hates like bread and butter Chardonnay. So there's a big like not revolution happening, but there's a big trend happening in wine um of either like fully steel fermented Chardonnays with no Oak barrel aging and no malolactic conversion, no lees aging. So it's just like not what you expect Chardonnay to taste like at all. It's just like kind of drinks more like a Pinot Blanc almost, where it's just like crisp apple pear, doesn't have any of that like vanilla oakiness to it. And or like our Chardonnay at the vineyard I work at is just like traditional, but not a caricature. Like it's oak-aged for a little bit, it is aged on the Lees for only five months. It's like slight malelectric conversion. So it's like all the traditional notes are there. So traditional shard drinkers are like finding what they're looking for, but shard haters, I always give it to them when they're like, give me anything but a Chardonnay. I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna give it to you because you just need to like open, like broaden your perspective on what it could be because not everyone's doing it traditionally anymore.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

I love that, and you always learn some fun things when hanging out with Jack. Like, I need to go take a wine tasting with you and learn some more about this. I do really like the wines at your place. I've had a little taster, the one time we had a little taster or whatever. Um 444A. Yeah, I love that. What else is it? Um we talked about your death row meal a little bit before. But also you're doing it today. Yeah. Um wines. But you're not drinking wines. Do you drink at work now or no? No. Do you have to?

SPEAKER_02 45:13

I I spit taste. Like I'll, you know, swish it and spit it because I need to like make sure that the bottles taste good if they've been open for a couple of days before I serve them. Uh but it honestly hasn't like yeah, but it honestly like also hasn't been as like as big of a hurdle to get over as I thought it would be. Like working in wine. Like, I didn't think I would have a problem not drinking, but like working in wine and like serving wine to people all day. There was like a big um the last place that I worked at, it was a big part of the work culture of like all of us were like rallying at the end of the day to close and finish so we could all sit around and have a drink together. My team doesn't do that at this new job, so like it's made that not difficult because like we're all just like looking to get home, so um and then yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

Well, it's also so cool. Congrats on being like four box sober because I think it is something that has seen so hard, and I've done maybe a month or two no drink or whatever, and then after a while you're like, oh, it's actually not as hard as I thought it would be, like when you're drinking as much if you're like interested in stopping, and then you realize maybe it's easier than possible. But I mean, I'm I'm not I'm not trying to be sober, so but it is hard in social situations, I think, to give in a peer pressure and stuff, so I can't even imagine work. Like if I worked at a vineyard, I I can't even imagine like being so strong as to stop drinking entirely and stuff, and so congrats on that.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

I just I mean it has a lot to do with just divine timing. Like I have considered doing it multiple times before, and it's just like it just got to a boiling point where I like I was having so much medical anxiety, and like anytime I drank or smoke weed, I was just like tweaking out, and like it wasn't enjoyable anymore. Like, I would have one glass of wine and I would just spiral and be like, Am I drinking too much? Like, oh my god, do I have a problem? Like, it was just like it was a mental roadblock to get over, and I was like, drinking is supposed to like enhance an experience, and like you're supposed to have fun, and like this isn't fun, so like I need to like pump the brakes and like give it a hard reset. So I don't think I would have been able to do it as long as I have, and like know that I'm definitely gonna be able to commit for the year. Um, if I hadn't just like reached my like not rock bottom, that's so dramatic. I wasn't wrong, but like my breaking point of like, okay, I like every like mind, body, and soul, like it just clicked, and I was like, let's take a break and come back to it. I mean, I'm definitely gonna start drinking again once the year is over. Don't get me wrong. I love wine. Um, it's like too big of a part of my life at this point to like never drink wine again. Uh, but I think it's definitely gonna like hard reset just like my whole mentality about drinking um and like frequency of drinking. I think the summer is definitely gonna be the biggest hurdle, but I think it's also gonna be the biggest learning lesson um and like re-evaluation of my drinking habits because it's such a normal part of society at this point. Like, I keep thinking, like, how am I gonna be on the beach without a bag of like Sauvignon Blanc in my cooler? But like that's kind of what was like making me spiral about drinking and thinking about drinking too much was like I I just kept thinking, okay, why do I feel like I need to or want to in this moment though? Like I felt like I didn't have enough intention behind when I was drinking. And it was like, oh, go to the beach, obviously we need to drink. Oh, we're going to the park, obviously bring a bottle of wine, oh, we're going to the city, gotta go out to the bars. It was like, okay, but why? Like, do I actually want to, you know, just intentionality was my biggest thing going into the new year of like I want to do more things with intention.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

Yeah. I love that, and I also think that the city is so great for live for that too, because my fiance barely drinks. Um, he drinks sometimes like with dinner, but he also sometimes gets uncomfortable going to like rowdy bars all the time, and I'll go alone with my friends and he doesn't want to come, whatever, because he doesn't want to drink. But coming here in the city, like there's so much to do for that too. So I really think that even doing like what we're doing and going to the park and like hanging out, whatever, like there's a million things to do. So summer also is a bit tough for me to. I don't drink like a lot, but I do drink consistently, I guess, and it's always like oh, it's a beautiful day out, let's bring a sex pack to the park or like something like that. So I totally get what you mean, and you're like unlearning all that, and like and opens doors too like at the same time, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

Like, also why not have the sex pack? Like yeah, like there's always a time and a place for it, but like it does when you don't do it for a minute, and it's like, oh, I totally would be drinking right now in this scenario if I was drinking. And it just like it's been helping me get like a little more present, you know, of like wow, okay, my like I would be drunk right now, probably. So like let's reevaluate this moment sober and like how different is it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

I relate to that. I'm also like, so Jack said I lived in London for a year. Weed is very illegal there. Um big drinking culture, so I drank more, but I didn't smoke at all. And living in Charlotte, where it was like kinda legal growing up in New York, whatever, I was smoking a lot, but so I go to London and I stop for a whole year. I didn't smoke weed except one time in Amsterdam for a whole year. So I kind of unlearned that. And then coming back, I'm so I'm at the opposite, like the later stages of like stopping and being sober and then reintroducing it back into my life. And I am more intentional with it, I guess. Um and I also like still get the urge or the guilt maybe of like, am I smoking too much? Am I should I be doing something else like it's you know early in the night and something? Um but then I'm like, I literally just thought for a whole year, so also like I can enjoy this time a few months later. Um as long as it's not too too much, I think. You know what they say. Moderation. Moderation and all that, yada yada. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

I think it's I'm very surprised at how easy the weed cutting out has been because that was like much more like integrated into my life, I feel like, than drinking was. Exactly. And I think well, weed was the first thing that like kickstarted my desire to try to be sober for a year. Um, that was like drinking wasn't giving me as much like anxiety and like mental hurdles. Weed was really the one where like it was such an enjoyable thing for me for so many years, and then in the last year, every time I smoked, it was like minimum 15 minutes of like horrible anxiety before it like settled in. So I was just like, why am I doing this to myself? This isn't enjoyable anymore. So that's kind of been like I don't even think about weed anymore. I only really think about drinking because it wasn't as much of like a unenjoyable experience as weed had been that whole year. Um so I I I honestly it's crazy how much I forget that I'm also not smoking weed because I really only think about drinking. It's it's wild, yeah. Which I thought it was gonna be the opposite. I was gonna be like, oh my god, I need weed. Like I like who cares about drinking, but it's yeah, it's it's kind of crazy when you like unlearn it. Unlearn it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Love.

unknown 51:39

Period.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

Well, what else? I don't know. It's so gorgeous and stunning. This is where are we? We're in the Brooklyn Bridge Park, I think, in Dumbo in Brooklyn. Um everyone is out and about. Honestly, I'm kind of shocked that it's not more like bustling. Uh, usually on a day like this, it is like impossible to walk in a park because everybody is out. Uh but it is a Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

Yeah. Central Park has been really crowded on the sunny days. Um, I've been going and walking around the park, and a funny thing happened to me where this um woman, do you know who she is? Because I still don't know who she is. So um it was this girl who was on Bravo or something, uh, posted a video of her trying to talk to strangers, you know, one of them street interviews. She's sitting on a bench. Um and my friend sent it to me on Instagram and said, Oh my god, you're the second girl, whatever. So picture this. She's filming on the bench trying to stop people, and I just walk past and completely blank her and ignore her. And she sympathetizes at me and and she goes, Oh, she's gonna regret that. So I'm walking past thinking, who like who is this person trying to talk to me? Probably I definitely like blanked her and just walked straight past. And looking back at the video, like it's so funny, but how do you expect a stranger to stop and talk to you in the middle of a busy central park? So there's gonna be a lot more of that this summer. A lot more random video attacks.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

And like also, if you're gonna do street interviews like that, get up. She was like sitting on the bench and she didn't like extend her arm far enough. She literally just went like, excuse me, like bitch, I'm locked in and I'm walking. Like get up and like Billy on the street style, like hi hi. Like, why like well, I mean, maybe don't be that obnoxious. Um, but like, how do you do you want people to talk to you or not? Like yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

And the video is so funny too because she's not even saying anything fucking irrelevant. She's like asking people what TV show they watch or something. And I've always thought, what if I get stopped by that person that's so what are you listening to right now? Like I'm ready for that moment. I want to have that conversation. But and I would lie also on the spot. I would just lie and have to say a cool song. What song would you say? Or would you be honest?

SPEAKER_02 53:35

Well, I would have hoped you would have been honest if she did ask you that in that video because you were listening to my podcast. So I would hope you would bump the podcast and give it a shout out.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

Damn, I'm sorry, because she had like 200k actually, and the video was pretty I should totally should have done that.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Whatever, but she didn't you didn't see her, so um yeah, I think I would answer honestly. It depends on what I'm listening to, though. I mean, I never really listen to music if I'm not in the car.

unknown 53:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

I'm not like a big uh especially when I'm in the city, I like never have headphones in. I'm I'm either like reading on the subway or just like doing like the wordle or something. Um I'm wordling. I'm wordling, like wordle in, world out. Um but uh I totally understand people that do listen to music as you know they go around, but I like to have a little bit more awareness. If I ever do, I'm like one AirPod in. Um, but I'm usually never alone in the city. I'm usually visiting people, so like we're walking and talking. Like I am never you live here now, so like you're walking and you're going places. So I would probably do that if I lived here. Um yeah, I'd probably be honest, I have fire music taste, and I I think I would I'd probably be listening to something good unless I'm like in a mood listening to like musical theater. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Maybe I would lie, but I started thinking about this in London though, because I am a two headphone headphone person in and I need to unlearn that in New York because I don't think it's the same here. I I do want one here for like safety or for something like that. Like I do feel sorry that I didn't talk to her. But what if I'm listening to like a freaking baby shark or something? Like, what if something crazy is coming up? Like I have to have something ready, so I have thought about it, but I don't have an answer right now, I'd probably be honest nowadays. Yeah. I love walking around in the city alone, don't you? Like it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

I went to the bed alone instead of doing anything alone, honestly, is sometimes so much more fun than doing it with someone else. I mean it. I think that was the ferry beeping. In the Hudson River right now. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

No.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Yeah, it is. You're right, you're right, you're right. I mean the water looks clean as fuck, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

She's not bad. The East River is making a comeback, actually. And I did my master's dissertation on the water bodies of uh Long Island and Suffolk County. Thank you very much. They are getting cleaner, but nitrogen pollution is still one of the biggest issues facing us today. So we need to get those septic systems on Long Island.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

I meant to ask you a little earlier so you could like think about it if you wanted to, but I guess this will be more authentic if it's like off the cuff. No, no, no. Um I usually do I already did my content corner for the week when I filmed this for the first half of this video yesterday, but um I was gonna want to ask Megan what your like top three to five songs in your rotation currently are. And I also wanted to say I thought of a great idea. Um I'm a big playlist maker. I love curation, I love making playlists, and I figured why not make like a weekly updated playlist of all of the songs that I'm mentioning in my content corner um and call it run on playlist. So I love that. Follow my Spotify, Jack Martin underscore, and then look for the run-on playlist and check in weekly whenever I release a new episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

Um can I compliment you real quick? Because on your brother's episode when you were talking about that and you were saying you want to be a program programming and stuff, I do think that's like one of your strengths. Like you have just such great taste, and that's seriously like a skill and like a strength, and like um to do stuff like put stuff together like that, I would totally be interested in following your bomb ass playlist because I know it's gonna be fire. Um so my top three songs right now, I I have a weird answer for this one, and I don't know if I'm proud of it or embarrassed of it, or it's just not usually me. So I don't like the Beatles, and it's kind of controversial. Me too. No, I'm right.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

I just don't I'm right there with you. It's overrated.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

It's overrated, so m but I have been trying to listen to the Beatles more, at least to just know some of their more songs. But uh Paul McCartney's other band and then the band on the wrong song that has been in my rotation lately because I was trying to listen to the Beatles, and that song is so good. I love that song.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Yeah, I know. Paul McCartney is IT. Like yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:29

So Polo solo Paul McCartney Polo Sol McCartney gotcha um and and wings, the band, whatever. Um so that song is like kind of a meme right now at Jackson and I because I listen to it so much. Um that's number one. Number two on my rotation rotation, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

Okay, we're phoning a friend, friend being Spotify.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

So I've also trying to expand my music taste, similar thing, was listening to the Spotify playlist that somebody made called 500 Best Songs of All Time. Because why not? And Miss Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell, are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Like one of my songs on the content corner this week, which obviously I haven't seen yet, is Ladies of the Canyon, Joni Mitchell. So very much back in our Joni Mitchell era, yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

And it's crazy. That playlist is really good because I'm like, these songs are literally the best songs of all time, and I just forgot about them. When was the last time I listened to fucking Big Yellow Taxi? Never. The Counting Crows cover, probably. Um, so that is also major. Um, and then Harry Styles album is still in my repeat, and I'm seeing him in October in MSG, and I'm trying to prep prep for that. Okay. Um the tickets we got uh for a hundred dollars. Shout out to Jill, shout out to Jill's sister Katie, um, who have an insane ticket master queue. So they're$100 each. Are you kidding me? That's MSG. Uh she got like eight of them or something, just to because everybody will go. So I'm listening to the whole album prepping for it. Love Mr. Hairstyles. If you're listening, please.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Because I know you're listening, Harry. Um any tickets for me? Can I um slide in?

SPEAKER_00 59:01

I do not know that is up to Jill because Jill's sister bought them and then reserved some for us. Um the T is that Emily's sister is getting married the following day. Like the concert is Friday, her wedding is on Saturday. Um, so I fear she probably has like some sort of bridesmaid. She will be maid of honor. Like, I think it's gonna come to a clashing point, but it's October, so like we don't know yet. Yeah. But we can probably get you in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

Maybe see me there. What's your favorite song off of the album? I am a little like no, I don't not like the album, but I've been like some of them. I'm like, I've said it before, nothing is gonna be Harry self-titled. That is no skips. The rest of his albums have been more half and half for me, which it also devastates me that on Royal Court, he was like, his self-titles is like his least proud work because he felt like it was his least authentic, which I think is insane.

unknown 59:50

Insane.

SPEAKER_00 59:51

And Jack, another fond memory, is listening to that album for the first time together in 10th grade English class, probably. Um, sharing a headphone and listening to that first album together because we went and saw him in 2018. Um, my favorite on this album is probably Pop. Love. It's so good. And I'm not saying I love this album because it's not my favorite of his, but I'm trying to get into it. I'm trying to give her a chance, and I like it more than the first time I listened to it. It's one of those things, you know, maybe like third listen, you really like it, but I agree first album is the best. Um and Harry's House is probably my second favorite after that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

I would I would definitely agree about Harry's House having like the most consistency second, but I do think my s like my favorite song off of another album besides self-titled is Lights Up from Fine Line. But again, I think Harry's House has more bangers than misses than Fine Line does. Um I also love pop. I think it is I I said it's like cinema, if it was written and remixed by Daft Punk almost. And I think my favorite song off the album is probably Season 2 Weight Loss, though. Yeah. Um I really don't like Carla's song. And American Girls is too short. I like it. It's it's good, but I think it's too short.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

American Girls music video is really good. And I like it, but yeah, it's not my favorite era of his. And I also think, baby, what are you doing behind those tables? Did you see his like the um Manchester One Night Only performance on Netflix? He just does not need to be doing all this. He's trying to kind of get too DJ'd, but like I don't think that's gonna work. So I am a little nervous about his live show. I don't want it to be chewy. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

Yeah. Well, any other songs before we close it out, besides those?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:27

Um no, I think those are my only songs. Um as far as movies go for other media, I just watched Madagascar 2 again. And that is one of the best movies of all time. Fight me on that. Madagascar 2. He it shows his backstory, literally getting stolen by hunters in Africa. Are you kidding me? The tears instantly. Instantly. Um the the New York City of it all, the tropical in the island, or the African coast with or everything. Um, and then the storyline with his father. Are you kidding me? Like, seriously, one of the best movies of all time. Could not recommend it enough if you have not seen Madagascar 2.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

I that's what I came here to. Don't know if I can say, yeah, that's that's your pressing topic, your petty grievance. Um I don't know if I can say I've ever seen Madagascar 2 all the way through. I probably have at some point, but I will say uh Penguins of Madagascar was one of my favorite shows. Um well not the King Julian. Uh so love the um effect on that, or it like Yeah, probably. Yeah, we'll we'll do it, we'll do it in pose. I haven't watched anything else since my content corner anyway. Oh, I've been watching Love is Blind actually, which I started after I filmed the episode, and I've like almost finished the newest season. I love Trixie and Katya like to watch on Netflix, and they always like my favorite episodes of them are the Love is Blind episodes. So they released a new one for the newest season, and I've never watched Love is Blind front to like front to back before I watch their reaction to it. So I was like, I really want to watch the season so I can like really get into the you know nitty-gritty of like the inside jokes and analyzation of that episode. Uh and I fucking hate it, Loki. It's these people are j I can't stand straight people except Megan. Um, it's just really hard to watch. They are just so vapid and like out of touch with reality, and like these women groveling for these worthless men is really, really hard to watch. Then like fighting for this relationship that this man like couldn't want less. It's scary.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

I wish we were like we were back in the pods. Like, why are you not communicating with me? Like in the pods. I really don't like that show, but I'm hoping that you enjoy it. You know what else is hot on the press right now? What euphoria episode just came out? Euphoria season three, episode one just came out, like yesterday or the day before. What are you watching?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

So hot topic. I low-key hate euphoria. I was a bit I did never watch season one. I did watch a little bit of season two with my roommate Alessia in college because she was big into it. And I felt left out on like because we spent literally every waking moment together in our apartment, and I felt left out on the nights that she was like watching euphoria in her room alone. So I was like, fine, I guess I'll like join in just to like see. But I just think like at the time when it first came out, I was very much into um like hyper mindfulness and like not consuming content that lowers your vibration and like makes you feel bad. And I was like, this is like the number one show to lower your vibration. It was so depressing, it was so like heavy and like hard, harsh, depressing topic. So I was like, fuck that. I'm not watching that. Um season two seems a not even a little less heavy, bitch. It was even worse for Rue, like from what I gathered. I think season one was pretty bad too, from what I've heard. But um, yeah, I don't really I mean the fucking the what's the guy that just died from Grace Anatomy?

unknown 1:04:41

Eric Dane.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Yeah, his drunk monologue where he that was one of the best pieces of television history.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:47

The porn on your computer makes my jaw drop. That's that's iconic. Yeah, um, I get what you mean. I agree it also is like very glam glamifying, depression core, 2019, like bad vibes. Um, I think it's really pretty though. In some of the earlier ones, like I did fall for it. Obviously, this is like we were freshmen in college, kind of funny. Like, I remember going to euphoria parties and shit. Like, it was just funny. Um, I can't believe it's been so many years later though, so I'm kind of interested to see what they do with it this season. I have to see it through at this point, just out of damn curiosity. So, Jack, I implore you to watch season one and two. Well, I guess you can also wait and see how people receive season three and see if it's worth it or whatever. Zende Slays though.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:26

Well, it seems like so far people are like kind of grossed out by like the humiliation ritual that seems to be going on with Sydney Sweeney. Um and so I don't love that. Or just her in general, also, yeah. Um, and like they're old as fuck now. Like, what are we like and Angus Cloud's dead? Like, I just think like it's gonna be strange. Um, and so much has changed since the last season. I think it's like I thought it was weird that they even brought it back in the first place, but we'll see. I I'll maybe give it a go, but I it's definitely not first on my list. I have plenty of other shit that I've been meaning. To watch that I have not been watching that I'll probably watch first. Buffy, like I've been saying, I am so behind and I've been so bad on it. I've just been doing so many like creative things at night when I get home from work. I've been trying to like well, I also got a switch, so like I've been playing Fallout a lot and like um doing the pod, trying to do more creative things. So I don't really like want to watch TV by the end of the night. And I haven't been eating dinner. I'm getting skinny again. I've haven't been eating dinner after I get home from work. I try to like eat my lunch much later in the shift, so like I'm full, and then I uh because I just was eating so late at night when I got home from work. Like by the time I showered, cooked, and finished making dinner, it was like 9 30, 10. Um and I'm a big like if I'm eating at home, I like need to watch an episode of something with it. So because I'm not doing that, I'm not watching TV. Um so yeah. Maybe I'll give Euphoria shot. But it'll probably have to be like with somebody. I'm not watching that shit alone.

unknown 1:06:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:56

It's probably spooky. Yeah. Um, yeah. I'll watch it. It'll be on my list. Anything else we want to discuss?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:05

No, I think I think that's all. Um, we got a helicopter overhead, ops are out. Love it. That's like a cop on the jet ski?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:19

I said I want to hop on the Sam Jetski.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

Oh, thank you said OP on the jet ski. I was like, uh-oh. Um, yeah. But that's gonna it. I'm gonna be in Brooklyn for the next day or two. Uh we're probably gonna go out tomorrow. Um, we're going to see, like I said, we're gonna go see Rocky tonight instead of the day after my birthday tomorrow. So um now we have the full day to Kiki and Gallivant turn on the city tomorrow. Um Megan is you're off tomorrow as well, I think. So maybe you'll come Kiki with me and Carly and go walk around and do some fun things. Uh and then we're gonna go do an escape room tomorrow night, which I'm very excited about. Like I've said before, big Nancy Drew lover, big lover of puzzles and uh just brain teasers and problem solving. So we're doing a prison break themed room. Um, so lock us up, baby. Cool. Well, thank you so much for being with me, Megan. I'm so glad that we decided to do this. Uh, any anything to plug? Any uh anything you want people to know to know about?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

No, not really. Um, thank you so much for having me. This is so fun, and I love spending time with you, and we are literally just chatting like we do anyway. Like, I'm glad this finally happened because I feel like we've joked so many times of like this like we should just be on a podcast and whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:35

So are we even gonna talk about our YouTube channel that we tried to make with Jill? Shout out Jill called.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:40

Shout out Jill.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:40

Yeah, us three. It was the three of us in like end of middle school.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

2013 picture three fat 13-year-olds um with a dream and with a tumbler, uh, who really thought that all you need is a little choker necklace and a Polaroid camera and and literally zero jokes.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

Like and like the Herman's I like ice lemonade, like anything, yeah. No, it was very, very like YouTube peak era. Like we thought we were the Fab Five, which is where us three came from. We were like, well, it was us four because we had Carrie in the mix, also. Shout out Carrie, and then we were just like over Jill's one day, just me, Megan, and Jill, and we were like, you know what, let's film it now, we'll do us three. And like I said, I've always dreamed of living in the city. Us stood. It was it was a double entangre. It was us, meaning like the three of us, but also it stood for urban, like urban outfitters and soho.

unknown 1:09:38

Like where we wanted to live.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:39

Where we wanted to live, and uh like really, really cringe looking back. Uh, we even made matching bracelets with uh with upside down crosses, and the woman was like, Are you sure you want them upside down?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:50

And we were like, Yes. Yeah. Um, and we bought this, those in Hershey Park anyway. Yeah, isn't that so funny though, like to think back at I know us? I mean, we've we've been friends since kindergarten, but we kind of had a resurgence in middle school. Yeah, and then again towards the end of high school when we became like closer friends during those periods. Um and uh here we are now, literally 10 or 12, 12 years after that you took it off. Um yeah, more than probably. So do you think I've known you for like almost 20 years? Like how old do you think we were? We were in the same kindergarten class.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:21

Yeah, so we were f we were f five, four or five, so it's been twenty twenty plus years. And well I'm 26 now, so 21. Well, this this next school you'll be 21, I guess, but that's actually really insane to think about. And we're finally like full circle here though, because I said how many failed attempts at like a YouTube channel and like some kind of like digital content creation have I had that has led to this point? And what a perfect person to have as my second ever special guest, then somebody that was there trying to start it all, you know. Love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

Thank you so much. Love you, Jack. Of course.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

Well, let's throw it back to uh past Jack in the Long Island studio. And Jack and Megan signing off from Bookland. Back to you, Jack. Well, that's all we got this week, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in to the uh 10th episode of Run on Sentence. I cannot believe it has been 10 weeks that I've been doing this. It uh has been so creatively fulfilling and such a beautiful new like constant drive and like purpose in my life. It's really nice to like uh go through my week going like, ooh, like I did this really fun thing, like let me make sure to like write that down and talk about it in the pod next week. It's uh it's helping me like appreciate uh the moments more and be a little bit more present in my day-to-day life because while I'm enjoying it, I'm like, oh my god, like let me really make the most of this because this is gonna make a great story on the pod. Uh and you know, with my thrifting and everything, it's just it's been a fun way to like catalog and have a physical kind of like video letter boxed of like everything that I've bought. It's like a video archive of all of the things that I thrift and hoard week to week. So I love doing this. I can't wait to keep doing this, and I uh hope you guys are enjoying it too. I uh love y'all, and uh cannot wait to see you next week for the eleventh episode of everyone's favorite podcast, Run on Sentence. Thanks y'all. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

You know what? And another thing.