LIGHT DUTY PODCAST #8

The Man Spot, joins the show to talk social media, divorce, Montana living, gun culture, conspiracy theories, and the reality of rebuilding your life after everything changes. What starts as a conversation about content creation quickly turns into a deep dive on modern culture, hidden history, and finding purpose outside the noise.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Light Duty Podcast. What's up everybody? Welcome back to Light Duty Podcast. Episode eight. We have Vaughn Neville here, aka the man spot. So uh sit back. I'm sure it's gonna get a little interesting. But before we get started, I want to give a shout out to our sponsor, Core Medical Group. Uh they're an amazing company helping the first responders and the veteran community get their life back on track as far as energy levels and their blood work. So if you're feeling a little run down, head over to Core Medical Group. That's coremedicalgrp.com or Core Medical H R T on Instagram. Shoot them a DM, give them a call or an email, let them know you heard about them from the Light Duty Podcast, and you're gonna get a discount right now. Getting your blood work, they're gonna knock $100 off if you're self pay, so $199. But if you're using insurance, $59. So you know, don't delay, don't put it on the back burner, go get yourself right. Check out core medical group. Woo!

SPEAKER_06 0:57

That's it. Core medical.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Yeah, you got that down.

SPEAKER_06 0:59

Have you used any core medical stuff? Have you had your blood tested? Guessing. What's your TRT at? Let me guess your let me guess your test, right? I mean, you gotta page the man spot, it's your whole brand. You've gotta have high TR. You gotta have high testosterone, you would think, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:15

I'm gonna say 950. Where did that come from, though, Alan? Think about it. The man spot.

SPEAKER_05 1:21

You know, very interesting how my uh coming into social media happened because I was just a Facebook goer and I hated how people would be like having a bad day. But this is back when there was the thumbs up and the thumbs down. Oh, yeah. And then the thumbs down became so controversial being like, oh my gosh, they disliked me. How dare so many people hate what I just posted. And I I uh I was like, you know what? I'm done with this. And uh my wife at the time was like, well, you should get an Instagram because you whatever you follow is the only thing that pops into your feed. And I was like, Insta, what? And I was like, okay, Instagram. What year is this? This oh, this is 2015. Uh-huh. Yeah. 2014. Yeah, yeah. 20, yeah, we were pregnant with our first, so 2014. So, anyways, I was like, okay, yeah, Instagram it is. So I get an Instagram account, and I'm, you know, I like guns and I like off-roading, and I'm just like, oh yeah, look at me, I'm Jeep, and I'm gonna post my Jeep, and I'm gonna post this gun. That's cool. And then some people were like, hey, you'd like to brag, don't you? And I was like, no, I just I have hobbies and I like to post these hobbies. And I was like, screw these people. I'm gonna make a page where a dude can just go to this page, be unapologetic, and that's just his place. And I was like, the man corner, the man place, and I was like, oh, the man spot. Perfect. It's like a man corner place where a man can be a man. I had no idea at the time people would actually call me the man spot. I may have rethought that one through, but uh yeah, that's the man spot. Yeah, that's how the man spot was born. I just uh literally made it theme based on uh you know guns, hobbies. You know, at the time I was married, my wife was hot, you know, and I I'd post my hot wife, I'd post, you know, family man, history, America, and it just came into the sequence of, you know, you know, veterans, as you know. We've never been, we've never as America, we've never had more veterans than we have at this time period ever, because we were almost at war for I think like 17 years at you know, at the time. So you get all these veterans coming home, Instagram's popping off, people are looking for different sources of entertainment, magazines are dropping off, and social media that's like the big birth, so to speak.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

And that time, well, that time too is right when Instagram was really starting to take off that 2015 time.

SPEAKER_05 3:38

Yep, yep, exactly. And then soon after, I think it was 2015 or 16, is when it sold to Facebook. So this is even even prior to the Facebook, you know, uh buyout. So yeah, that's that's kind of how I I started it, started it up. And then I'm, you know, I used to be really funny and just put myself out there with skits and stuff, and people will just ate it up, you know. And I think that was kind of a thing with social media. If you just put yourself out there and it was catchy and you had a niche, it just took off. Because I mean, there were some gym people even who just had social media soon and fast. They're nobody special, but because right place, right time, they got millions of followers just because they were the only person on social media pushing out gym stuff. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

So I always say, man, if I knew what I knew now with with Instagram alone, like I would have I'd be like years ahead of where I'm at now. Oh yeah, years. It's crazy. Um yeah, I I remember when a buddy introduced me to Instagram because I was like, dude, how did you get the it was on Facebook? I was like, how do you get your pictures to look like that? He's like, Oh, Instagram app, you can put these filters on it. I was like, what? He's like, Yeah, it's like Facebook, but you don't really this is when you can you didn't even have like a caption, you just posted pictures. Oh yeah, yeah. And I was like, this is like so this is like 2012 at the time. I was like, I was like, I was like, okay. Um I was like, this is lame. I was like, I can't write nothing. I was like, I don't know anybody up here. You know, I tried it out for a little longer, I wasn't getting much action, I was like deleted. I was like, this is gay, you know. So I got off. It's kind of like the reaction I had with moving things over to Facebook from MySpace. I was like, man, you can't put music on Facebook and have your top eight.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

This shit's I think like MySpace, there needs to be a huge documentary about how awesome that was, but you had to be like a coder, like copy, paste, code to show like Pikura shaking it, like the little like GIF shaking it up. It's so easy though, too.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

And they had like MySpace bands or something, wasn't it? MySpace Bands. You could if you you could be a band and like me look at music.

SPEAKER_05 5:36

Yeah, and your top six best friends, dude.

SPEAKER_06 5:38

Dude, I never had MySpace. I never had a MySpace account. Whoa, junior. I swear to God. And then once it like once I got to the point where I was like, okay, maybe I should check out MySpace, boom, Facebook happens. I'm in college. And you know, Facebook was just for college students in the beginning. You had to have a college email address, unfortunately for me at the time. Out of the couple of years I went to college, it happened to be where I was a student, you know. Give me a Facebook account, dude. And then you're right. Like I remember the like and the dislike, and you could poke somebody. Like poking was a thing. If you poked a chick in your DMs, dude, and she poked back, you knew it was on, you know? So you still have back. They still have the you can poke on Facebook? Yeah, poke on Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Nobody poked you.

SPEAKER_06 6:25

You were like, ooh, you're only fancy. You're not getting poked, dude. You're dreaming about poking, man. I was like, man, I haven't been poking in a while. You're like, thank you for the poke. Yeah. You know, you can uh dislike on TikTok now. They brought back the thumbs down. So on TikTok, you can dislike. Oh well. No one does because it's like one of those things like you were saying, you know, it's like you can't hate on someone now like that, you know. But no, people dislike actually. I actually I accidentally dislike something today with a thumbs down, and that's what made me think of it. Like, oh shit, you can dislike on TikTok. Oh shit, you can hate.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

You can hate, you can just go through and hate boom boom boom.

SPEAKER_06 7:03

People wanted it back, they wanted the thumbs down back, you know. Can't just thumbs up now. Because I mean there was like there's China. China's US. Is it? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 7:13

I think they got barred trying to buy it or something.

SPEAKER_06 7:16

Like I saw like China no, this whole conflict is actually over is the purchase of TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah, I've been seeing you, you've been pretty heavy, outspoken with all that stuff lately.

SPEAKER_05 7:25

Yeah, like yeah, I uh that that is one thing I used to do is I used to get extremely political with my rants. I used to be overly um just politically just go on political rants, and people loved that stuff. In fact, I was gonna uh they had me, they did a sizzle reel history channel did for me to do a uh gun show. Well, wow. Um you probably know uh oh gosh, Rocco. Probably Vincent, yeah. Yeah, so me and Rocco Vargas, uh History Channel came out and they filmed us to do a history channel spiff about a gun show. So, anyways, they were like flying colors, they were like, Oh yeah, this is great, this is awesome. And then they were like, Okay, now New York liked it. However, they did it, they're like, We're pre-approved for 12 episodes, like two seasons. And I was like, Oh, this is great. And then they're like, we need to do a social media background check. And I was like, Oh, okay, yeah, no worries. So, anyways, they go back to like 2008, 2007, and they were like, All right, we have to scrub your social media. You did a rant about Obama and how the KKK is like Black Lives Matter, no, and I was like, Well, they both hurt people, yeah, they're both literally hurting people and they're they're being racist against their color of their skin. I was like, I'm not taking that down. That's how I feel. And they were like, Well, if you don't take it down, you can't be on the show. And I was like, that's how it's gonna be. Yeah, and I was like, I'm not taking it down. Fuck you. Yeah, and then so they bumped me out and they replaced me with um Eli from Unsubscribe Podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah. Eli's a great guy. So, anyways, him and Rocco continued on History Channel and they they did uh, I think they did like one season or something like that. But yeah, no, but my political banter is what got me nicked from the History Channel.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Had your account like shut down on Instagram?

SPEAKER_05 9:19

They had it fight to get it back or nope, I've never had it hacked into, logged into, or anything like that. I've I've just been floored uh with uh uh you know just shadow banning because I mean yeah the more you influence people about their rights, the Second Amendment and stuff like that, uh the more educated people get. And they're like, wait a minute, I have rights because I've I I've helped over 20,000 people become first-time gun owners. Wow. Which is which is pretty cool for me. Like I'm like, whoa, you can track that to me. That is really cool. And uh it was really cool back then because people would be like, I grew up in a house where their guns wasn't a thing, but knowing that this is my right, looking into the rights in my state that I can carry, it's really cool to almost have that sense of somebody like birthing, like I can own a gun, I can defend myself, I now have a hobby that I didn't know I would have because my dad wasn't into guns, but I am totally into guns. So it's so social media, that's what I love about it, is because you can connect to people on a different level and make them realize you know something that they didn't have before. Yeah. So that's it.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

I think that's the problem nowadays with with guns and the stigma of oh guns bad is I think the lack of education and training. Like back in the day, like used to public schools used to have like you know, uh gun training, uh like outdoor classes, like a shop class, and guns would be a part of that or whatever. Yeah. And I I feel like you know, people just hear all the negative in the media or on social media and they see the stuff on TV, and it's like it's a tool. And if you're trained how to properly handle the tool, you're you're you're much safer than not knowing. So I think that's I think that's what we need to have. You know, we need to have that education come back.

SPEAKER_05 11:11

And and as Americans, it like the Second Amendment, it's like it's number two on the list of like what makes you American. The Second Amendment's number two. Like that should be ingrained, rooted, and like that is a part of us. Like we need to bring that back in school where it's just like, yeah, you're an American, means you're gonna own a gun. Like, like you want to vote, guess what? You're gonna own a gun. Like, that's the way America should be, is like you have it, all right. You have freedom of speech, you're gonna get a gun to protect that freedom of speech, protect what you say, protect what you want. And we have just that is not America anymore. I remember in sixth grade I went to school with a gun, just in the case, because I was going hunting with a buddy, you know, after school.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

And I told my teacher, I was like, I got a 30 out six in the case, and she's just like, okay, just put it up against the wall.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

I remember like my brother and uncles, everybody like gun gun racks in the truck. Gun racks in the truck. Like you go to the store and their rifles and shotguns are right there. It's like it was no big deal. Uh-huh. Dude, like a friend of mine that at all.

SPEAKER_06 12:08

No, got uh alternative school for that. He had a shotgun in his truck. He was gonna go hunting afterwards, and it was this was 2004. I guess maybe let's get this straight, people.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

He did not have a MySpace. I did not have a MySpace.

SPEAKER_06 12:25

So anything I say from this point forward, just take with a grain of salt, but that but yeah, game alternative school. And I, you know, I did go to a big high school, Hoover High was a big, big deal, big football team, all that, but it was still 2004, so I don't think Columbine had happened yet, right? I mean, I think that was after.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

No, Columbine had not happened yet. Yeah. I remember because I used to buy and sell guns on a website in Utah called KSL, and uh I used to buy and sell guns, and after Columbine, they shut that down. Yeah. Like I used to buy and sell Desert Eagles like nuts. But yeah, I want to say it was 2008, maybe eight or nine. Yeah. Yeah, it was right during the Obama.

SPEAKER_06 13:08

Yeah, that's wild. But yeah, he sure enough.

SPEAKER_05 13:11

Not Columbine. Columbine happened to be. Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook is what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Columbine was way earlier. Oh, yeah. That had to be like 90. No, no, no. I'm looking right now.

SPEAKER_05 13:25

Exactly. Sorry guys, we're we're fixing our our shootings here. Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook is the one that changed it all in uh 2008-9.

SPEAKER_06 13:35

Well, I've got um really bad service in here, guys. So you got ATT? I got ATT. I got I got ATT. Let's see. ATT, no MySpace, can't get a damn signal. When did Columbine happen?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

The struggle bus here. I was right, 99.

SPEAKER_06 13:53

99, bro. Look at you. Whoa. April 20th. I didn't realize that. So yeah, I guess you know, he should have had his shotgun in his car then.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

That's wild. But I mean, even still, look like the whole thing with with guns being bad, man, dude, like there's so much more good that is uh, you know, out there. Like lawful gun owners have stopped a lot of crime. And that's and and the bad thing about that, it's never publicized, it's never talked about. It's only the bad talked about. And and that's unfortunate because it's to push a certain narrative.

SPEAKER_06 14:30

Yeah, they want to take our guns, they want to unarm us, man.

SPEAKER_05 14:33

Yeah, you you don't arm us. If you don't know your rights, you can't fight for your rights. Yeah, the whole narrative is to just be complete, completely just complacent and listening to whoever we're told to dependent, dependent on them. Yep, exactly. Yep, exactly. But yeah, my rants, yeah. People love they love when I would do political rants. So I'm starting to bring those back a little bit. They really ruffle some feathers.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

I've been seeing them.

SPEAKER_05 14:57

I'm like, yeah, and very controversial because you know, some people it and it's tough because some people, you know, when they vote for somebody, they think they can't leave that person, yeah, no matter what. Yeah. So they can't, and I have to tell people, I'm like, you can have your own opinion. You know, yeah, your parents were great. Great parents. They birthed you, they brought you in here, they raised you, but do you agree with everything that your parents do or say? And it's just like, no. So it's almost like trying to relate to people how you can do that with your politicians as well. But a lot of people don't have that foresight and fortitude to do that. I mean, being the two a two-party political system, it's just like, no, right or left.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

You know, yeah, it it it it sucks, man. But like we were talking about before we we got started, you know, I I obviously I voted for Trump, you know, um three times, but man, dude, uh what happened to America First? I want to kind of I want to get back to that. You know, I don't know the whole I mean, I get the whole Iran don't have a nuclear weapon. I know they've they play games and they pretty much tell whoever what they want to hear. You know, I I get that, but it's like I just don't know why all of a sudden now. Like why now that it, you know, did they decide to do this? I mean, what happened to America's golden age? You know, yeah. What what what happened to that, you know, driving prices down? Because everything's up right now. You know, everything's up. Um unfortunately, yeah. I'm and I I'm I I voted for him three times, but I mean, I'm not happy right now. I mean, filling up my truck is it it sucks, you know. Oh, yeah. You know, that that thing ain't cheap. So yeah, absolutely. It's it's crazy, man. Um you know, I I just I don't I just I I don't have much to say on it because I'm just kind of stepped back trying to like watch like what's going on because I really don't know what the hell's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 16:42

Are you into conspiracy theories?

SPEAKER_06 16:43

I am, dude. All right, big time. I love conspiracy theories. So whether I believe them or not, just to talk about them is exciting.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Well, most of them come out to be true.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Oh, yeah, a lot of them do, yeah. Exactly. So exactly. And what you got for us. Oh, when you said nuclear bombs, I was like, ooh, have you gone down the nuclear bomb rabbit hole?

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Do they actually not exist? The whole kind of like Iraq thing, like they have weapons of mass reports.

SPEAKER_05 17:08

Yeah, yeah. It's just like Iran, literally like Iraq, it's just like a play-by-play. Stop them and invade them. And then it's like, oh, who's their banking system? Like all of a sudden, the nuclear weapons is why we need to stop them, bomb them, get involved, take over the country, and oh, we're also gonna take over your banking system at the same time. So it gets very interesting when you look into why we invade countries and what reason they give you, and then you see the banking system behind who's running the country, and boom, boom, boom, it's like a domino effect. And the same thing was with you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela. Oh wow, like that was the easiest like bank switch ever, you know, and it's all about the central bank system with that.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

So what do we what do we do though when Venezuela, for example, you have all you know, those one it used to be one of the richest countries in the Americas, right? Yeah, now they're like one of the poorest. Um so what do we do about that though? I mean, does that hold no, you know, no weight as far as us going in there? Like is like I don't even know because I I know people personally from there and they're like they loved the fact that Trump went there and did that. You know, I you know, and I can understand that, but do we rush that to the side? Like what's the right thing?

SPEAKER_05 18:29

Well we're really getting we're really getting into uh foreign affairs when we get into this. And you have to you have to be kind of unbiased when you come into this about like what is America, what was America founded on? How are we sticking true to the constitution of America and what makes it right for us to break apart and be the world police and be like, yes, you, yes, you know, you yes, yes, yes, and then you go all the way back to uh Teddy Roosevelt was kind of when that's yeah, and even like World War I, and you even get into the Titantic and your like conspiracy theory about the Titanic. Who was on the Titantic? What bankers were on there, what was happening, what were they voting on? And then you you look into like who was supposed to be on there, JP Morgan? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And then he stayed behind the last minute, and then the guy who discovered the Titantic, he held the secret of what he found out about why the Titantic sank until like right before he died, and he was like, What he discovered was there was an explosion inside. So not only was it an iceberg, there was also an explosion inside the Titantic to make sure that bitch sank. And everyone heard that. And people are just like, huh? But again, this is where we're talking about conspiracy theories, and this is what I love talking about because conspiracy theories to me, it's it's it's extra knowledge that is getting out. And a lot of people don't like that knowledge because the narrative has already been shared and spread out amongst people, and uh people are scared of new knowledge because it's like, wait, wait, wait, I have to forget what I was told is truth, and I have to open up my mind to something that could be. And it's just it's just facts of knowledge to me of like what cons conspiracy theories are, because it's just like, no, this is just different information. Conspiracy theories need to be changed to new information.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Yeah, I agree that. So, I mean, with everything going on, all the lights and sparkly stuff to distract us, now they drop they drop the alien stuff. Oh, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

And it's just in a passing to the Epstein files. Look, there's an alien, they're real, everybody. Oh my god, you forget about all the rapists like anywhere. Look at the aliens. That's right. It's just like wait, wait, no, no, okay.

SPEAKER_05 20:35

We knew there were aliens. Everyone knew there was something there, but no, we we want justice for the kids. No, no, uh, we're going to war. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Like, it's just like, come on. Yeah, that and that it that blows my mind too, and like how like I've seen we've seen a few uh countries you know take those officials that have been connected Epstein and and hold them accountable. And and you know, I don't know the extent of it, but they went after some. I haven't seen anything here in the US yet. Zero. Like what is going how how are like how are these people at least names being mentioned? I mean, obviously everybody wants to just jump all over Trump, right, about it, but there's so many more people. Why hasn't there been like a proper investigation, any kind of arrest? No, whatever it's like. And I and I understand I was talking to my wife about this. Like I get you can't go in there and just arrest people, right? Without, you know, you need proof and this and that, whatever. But like there hasn't been anything happening.

SPEAKER_05 21:26

You know, you know what's amazing to me is like the Epstein files, like they say there's like three million were brought to us. There they said there was more than three million that they uh didn't release to us. And remember, Trump didn't release these to us. This this was other politicians who like said, no, we are releasing these. But what gets me is like the documentation that's there and how there's names and everything. You're just like, who was recording all this? Who like I'm like, that is intense to like three million different copies. Copies of detailed stuff. You're just like, if that's the stuff that's documented, imagine the stuff that isn't. So I mean, on the basis of just having it, it would be like, hey, your name was mentioned here. You're detained.

unknown 22:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:12

I mean everybody's there. Detain everyone.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

There's like some, I guess evidently there's some like really sick shit, obviously, as everyone knows in there. So I mean, anyone that's attached to it, I just don't understand how there's just not a deep dive into their bank accounts, the phone records, whatever it may be. And obviously, you know, we're talking about like very powerful and rich. Yeah, that's why. Because it's all the powerful people.

SPEAKER_06 22:33

They're the ones who make that decision. Well, that's funny too. Yeah, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

You see all these politicians and they they they they fight with each other into that, this and that, back and forth. But then when it's a photo op, they're all like buddy buddy. You know, everything's fine, they're shaking hands. Yeah, I mean, yeah. But I mean, it's dude, it's yeah, that's one part for me as someone that voted for Trump that is very aggravating. I haven't really spoken about it. I don't really use get on my page and talk politics and all that stuff, whatever. Um you know, I kind of just focus on the business and everything. But you know, honestly, dude, it it does, it it bothers me um that nobody, nobody's being held accountable and that Trump is kind of just kind of brushed it off to the side. Once he kind of they got the word out, like, okay, look, there's nothing in there about me, he kind of was like, okay, let's move on. And that's that's kind of aggravating because I know there's a there's a ton of people that voted for Trump and people that didn't vote for Trump, but they want to see some movement happen. They want to see something happen, somebody held accountable. So yeah, it's very, it's it's very uh um aggravating to see right now um uh amongst everything else that's going on.

SPEAKER_06 23:40

Yeah, I've got a conspiracy theory for you. Ooh, Palm Beach Pete. Have you looked into Palm Beach Pete? Of course I have, you know, the whole story about that. They think it's Epstein. Yeah, they think Palm Beach Pete is Epstein, and there's some weird stuff. Like I'm I don't believe it now, but in the originally I was kind of because I was one that always said Epstein's not dead. That was my stance from the beginning when it happened. Uh, you know, a lot of people were thinking, yeah, someone they had him killed. Yeah, that's obvious, right? I think he's still alive, you know. They could easily have taken him out of there and you know, hundred percent of the hype. Yeah, when you have that kind of money.

SPEAKER_05 24:17

Otherwise, they'd show you a body blur out the face a little bit, maybe the next, but they'd be like, There's his body.

SPEAKER_06 24:23

Yeah, and then Pompey Pete pops up who's who's partied with Epstein, he's been in a room with Epstein, he's answered these questions.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

He put out a video though saying, like, well, you know, it's me, I'm not Epstein.

SPEAKER_05 24:35

Yeah, dude, he's got a million followers viral, and dude, Jimmy Kimmel had him on. He's like, No, you're not Epstein. He's like, No, no, it's not me. But then the the the mother he he can't stay away from the media presence because then he was on a podcast where they actually hooked him up to a lie detector test. And he felt sketch as but they're like, So, did you know Epstein?

SPEAKER_02 24:57

And he's like, Well, I I I was at a party where where he was, he was at.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

And he stutters on the same words Jeffrey stuttered on. It's just like, it's just like, wait a minute. You look like him, you say you stutter on the same words as him. Yeah, are you him or is that a Jewish thing? Like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

It's not being racist, but it's like I'm trying to cover for you, like like trying to help you out, but you're making it hard.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

You're making it hard. Same cult, Hollywood elites there, giving some acting.

SPEAKER_05 25:28

Oh, yeah, yeah. And there's something, and but the way he was answering these questions with the lie detector, like, so you were in the same room as him, and he's like, I was at the same potty as him. So yes, is that a yes? And you couldn't definitively say, like, yes. So that's so conspiracy theory? I think yes.

SPEAKER_06 25:46

Yeah, yeah. He's got a a YouTube channel, this real Palm Beach Pete, right? And that someone was calling him out the the fake Palm Beach Pete on his page about it. They're like, This isn't the real Palm Beach Pete. This is so he sends people to this YouTube page where it's just this old dude who's like in his 60s that just does fishing videos. He's got like 300 YouTube subscribers, maybe, may maybe less than that. But then when this happened, all of a sudden, and he had been off YouTube for a while, right? Well, then this happens, and all of a sudden his page is blowing up. He's got 20,000 YouTube subscribers. He hadn't even been fucking with it much. He hadn't even been because he made a video telling what happened, but he hadn't even been messing with it. All of a sudden, he gets all these notifications in his email. He's got 20,000 night, yeah. He's got 20,000 subscribers. He's getting poked at it. And he goes on, they're like, What's happening? And then he finds out that people are mistaking him, Palm Beach Pete, as the fake Palm or as the other Palm Beach Pete that's supposed to be Jeffrey Epstein. So it's crazy the chain of people that whose lives is affected.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Oh, yeah, you better.

SPEAKER_06 26:53

Well, that's what I was saying. Now like he had quit doing videos and stuff, and he comes back on, he's got 20,000 subscribers, and he just does his little fishing videos because they think he's Palm Beat, you know, the whole Palm Beach Pete thing. It's affected so many people's lives. I need a trademark of that name. Oh, yeah. Somebody should. Because that's what they were pointing out about the Palm Beach Pete that they think is Epstein is that his page just started. He doesn't have a lot of content. He hasn't, you know, like his Instagram's new, his TikTok's new, and all this happened from him being pointed out as. But what better way to cover up if you actually were Epstein?

SPEAKER_00 27:26

I was just gonna say, I was just thinking that. What if it what if it really is him? He just needs this.

SPEAKER_05 27:31

And here's where we go into another conspiracy theory. You've seen Jim, the new Jim Carrey, right? Oh, have, yeah. Who accepted that award in Italy or whatever? Yes, yes, and that's weird. No, this is a joke, this isn't a joke, this is not real. Like, I think that's the one, like all the other celebrities. I've been like, okay, yeah, something happened, whatever. Yeah, but Jim Carrey, I'm like, I fucking love that guy. Yeah, you know, he's Canadian, so I didn't like his gun, his beliefs on the gun. Yeah, but towards the towards his last five years, the motherfucker just was just truth bombing. Yeah, he stepped it up. He was like, Buh, the system, yeah, this is the way it is, and that's why he's been replaced. Like, I don't care what you say. Yeah, that is not the same Jim Carrey. And I think they replaced the wrong dude because that guy is near and dear to us all. So I think that's why it's like, no, no, no. Well, all the other celebrities we didn't give two shits about. I mean, some of them you're like, eh, maybe, you know, like Bradley Cooper. Fucking love Bradley, but I mean you can tell they like switched him or did whatever, but it's just like, whatever, Bradley, you were in some good ones, but Jim Carrey's like, no. Yeah, you do no.

SPEAKER_06 28:37

Why did you replace an OG like that? Dude, do you think replace? I've thought about this too, because it's like some people were saying, you know, what if celebrities have these like really good look-alikes that can go and do things for them that they don't want to do? So, like if he didn't really want to be at that awards, because it was like a small thing, it was either in France or Italy, I can't remember, it was overseas, long flight, right? You know, long trip. Guys like that are so busy with all this stuff, it's just a little simple award, you know. And why not send someone that looks like you to go?

SPEAKER_05 29:06

Jim Carrey was known to have people step in for him. Right. He did say that openly. Yeah, go do this speech, dude. Go accept this award. It's a foreign country. He didn't talk about that, but he then when you get down into the rabbit hole when Jim Carrey's talking to like his best friend, he's like, They if they kill me and they replace me, he told him the these things will happen. Oh yeah. And uh all that had happened, and he's just like, That's not that's not my friend, that is not Jim. And then when you get deeper into the rabbit hole, you find about about there's a whole school of replacement celebrities that these are going to. Like the CIA is like, oh yeah, and it all goes back to Epstein. It's crazy. It all goes back to Epstein because Epstein was doing when you get into, and this is why the other half of the files couldn't be released, because they're like, There's no way people are ready for these, about him doing you know, they they were making different humans, they were doing cloning, they were doing they were making monsters. That and this gets back to hidden world history that we're that the the Nephilim, uh the the Earth Giants and stuff like that. And if you get deep into world history, earth giants definitely were a thing. You look at the big cathedrals, you see these huge freaking doors. There's a little there's a little six-foot door for us, people like us, but then there's huge freaking doors. If you look into world history and that type of stuff, earth giants were a huge thing.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

And then when it gets to Epstein, what do you what do you say to someone that's like there's no there's no fossil evidence?

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Or where'd they go? Like where yeah, like where'd they go? Why aren't they here now?

SPEAKER_05 30:42

Oh, there is evidence, there is complete evidence of this. And then when you get into the Smithsonian and how much evidence they have actually scrubbed, and you guys need to look this up because there's actually books about earth giants in the United States. There's actually a guy who goes deep into this and he's just like, Yeah, earth giants are a thing, and this guy is like over seven feet tall. And he's like, I've always been fascinated with earth giants. Here's my personal findings of earth giants, and it there's a whole book. So when you go into the rabbit hole about earth giants, you're just like, holy shit. Yeah, like that's it. But where's the bones at? Yeah, they do have the bones. Like 100%. If you Google it, Google Earth Giant Bones. There is a skull fucking as big, as big as my hands right now, and there's three guys pushing it up this crate from the just finding it in the earth. If you Google Earth Giants, you are gonna find some old fucking shit and stuff where you're like, that is not AI. Yeah, and I went into this rabbit hole like back in 2019 of Earth Giants.

SPEAKER_06 31:41

Like you remember the story about the Afghanistan giant? Y'all remember? Oh, yeah, I'm the military guy over there. Like that was a thing. We talked about the giant that lived in the cave in Afghanistan. We're always looking for him. I never found him.

SPEAKER_05 31:55

Well, that's the thing is they said they killed him. There's a there's a brand new, there's a brand new, actually, not brand new, but probably within the past three weeks. A new episode that came out. This is about uh that's that's the elongated skulls. But when you look into Earth giant skulls, I mean, yeah, those those um This is why we need our monitor up so we can point.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

We'll get that added.

SPEAKER_05 32:17

Who does Joe Rogan have when he's calling on his Jamie? We've got Noel.

SPEAKER_06 32:22

Noel, make a make a note to we can, you know, get a get a monitor for that on a checklist. We can put it up there.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Uh search, what's what uh cellular service do you have? We don't want you to he's like Metro. We gotta get you guys on the Wi-Fi. We gotta get you guys on the Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_06 32:40

Metro Plus.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Metro Plus Cricket or whatever it was it called cricket back in the Cricket Mobile. Oh yeah. That was a big thing. Um you remember when they had like Motorola had like the the cell phones where they had push talk? Oh yeah, like across the night. Next tell Nextel was the shit. Yeah, Nextel was hit me on that Nextel chirp, dude. There was a rap song about that. But I just seen them talking about that like it's something new. I'm like, dude, that like my grandmother and uncle and them were using that shit like 20 years ago. And it was more reliable than cell towers.

SPEAKER_05 33:13

Next they were going radio towers.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Yeah, Nextel was the shit.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

How old cell phones worked in cars and that people would have in their briefcase, they'd go up radio towers.

SPEAKER_06 33:21

That's what we gotta get, you guys. There's an app you can get actually that does the where you can radio each other now. I mean, it's not as good, it's not the same, but it's like iPhone or the Apple Watch is the. Oh, yeah, but you gotta be talking to someone with an Apple Watch or But uh yeah, Nextel was the shit, dude. I remember when we had those, and you could they were indestructible too. You could drop those phones, dude. Well, just the cell phone got smartphones happened to Nextel. That's what happened to Nextel. Yeah, have you seen that? No one needed them.

SPEAKER_05 33:47

Have you seen that big press that comes down and it smashes different objects? Yeah. There was this one where it was like a Nextel phone and the Nextel smash. Yeah, it's like that smashes everything.

SPEAKER_06 33:57

I was like, that's that's accurate. That's true, right there. You can drop those things off anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 34:05

And I remember Nextel phone was sitting on my lap, and I took a corner, like the duke's dads are like woo, and the phone was just like ving gone out of the window. Freaking gone. I went back and I I found it. Took me probably like 20 minutes to find it, but nothing perfect, absolutely perfect. What happened? What happened to Nextel?

SPEAKER_06 34:22

What happened to Nextel? They just became, you know, there's no reason for them because the the smartphones happen. And then it's like now because Nextel, you couldn't like, you know, oh, they had to look at internet or they had the game snake.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Yeah, yeah. I think that's not that's actually probably you know, iPhone and them. They they just crushed it. They they put they they killed it to Yeah, that's what happened because you just didn't need it anymore.

SPEAKER_06 34:45

But the it was cool though. The Blackberry.

SPEAKER_05 34:47

The Blackberry, and there's the iPhone that just came out. Blackberry ruled for a while, but Blackberry was the first smartphone.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Well, yeah, but I I was watching a documentary on that stuff in uh the Blackberry though, they actually they laughed at uh the iPhone, they're like, it doesn't have buttons. Like so they they continue on, but they ended up obviously overtaking.

SPEAKER_06 35:09

Yeah, buttons didn't matter anymore. You know what sucked about the Next Tel too, though, is when your mom also had Next Tel and they would beep, you know, and you could just you would just talk out loud. So I'd be like with a chick or something, you know, like in high school, and Evan, beep beep, Evan, you know, it's just your mom like streetlights are on. Why are you home? Why aren't you home? Yeah, like fuck, and you put it on mute, you know.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

Sorry, my mom's next tailing me. Sorry about that, sorry about that chirping me. Dude, so we were talking obviously on the way here. You're building a house? Yeah, yeah, building a house.

SPEAKER_05 35:39

Building a house in the woods uh out up in northern Montana.

SPEAKER_06 35:43

Oh pretty much the Canadian might be in Montana in a month or two. I've never been. I'm supposed to go out there and do some girls' podcast. Oh, what part of Montana? I have no idea. What girl? That's another good question. I'll tell it to you about that.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

You got so many pokes going on, you don't even know who's poked left and right. When are you gonna be done with that thing and moved in?

SPEAKER_05 36:04

Oh man, it has been uh so so I hate the governments, I hate banks, but it it all comes back around to bite you in the ass because you can't get a conventional loan unless you obviously show that you make all this money with taxes, so you run in this conundrum. So then there's this under I I have this has just been a learning process. So then you learn about hard money lenders who I call loan sharks. They're just like, Yeah, we'll loan you money, it's gonna be twice the percentage, but yeah, we'll loan you money for a short-term rate. And then you're just like, okay, cool. So, like me, my whole relationship with money had to change. Like, like to do the smart thing would be like, nope, I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna do this by cash. But then I'm like, I've got three little kids, and I'm like, they need their own rooms. I can't just live in an RV in the woods until they're like in high school and then be like, oh yeah, I finally built a house. I'm just like, no, so I need to start building the house now, and I need to pay the money, pay the piper later on because I wasn't able to do that in taxes. Uh, but then tax the whole tax system is a racket as we know. But yes, but where I'm at now, I'm just like, okay, I I took a took a nasty loan from some loan sharks, paying it off. I'm doing a lot of the work myself on the house, and I should be finished up here hopefully within the next six months.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Yeah, man, it it sucks. I mean, obviously I I worked downrange with uh after I got the the Marine Corps, and uh there was a guy that was like, I don't know if he was an accountant after his time in service or whatnot, but he did you know a lot of private security as well, and he did everything with cash. He didn't mess with credit or whatever. And I was just thinking, like, dude, you can't even rent an apartment without a credit. Like, you've gotta do like it's like I hear I hear you and the logic behind Dave Ramsey. Yeah, you've cash only got you you keep you keep you keep I want to keep as much money in my pocket as I can. I get it, you know, whatever. But unfortunately, they just make it so hard nowadays to play.

SPEAKER_05 38:07

Yeah, that is literally what you have to do.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Yeah, or just have enough cash. What I want to know, loan or credit. What I want to know is how big is the gun room?

SPEAKER_02 38:16

The gun room?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:18

So so when I was in Salt Lake City, for those of you who don't know, when I was when the man spot was at his epitome, um, I lived in Salt Lake City for 11 years, and I made one room that was just a designated gun room, and that just scaled so freaking big. It was probably like uh 200 square feet of just a big gun room. And uh I I'd go I went to some of the old silver mines in uh Utah and I got the old wood and I fixed it up and then I got the Gallotech Gallotech plug plug. If you have guns, get some Gallutech, hang it up, it's great. Um but yeah, so I I really made a steeple in uh just my content with my gun room. So the problem is with Salt Lake City, if you live there, like I even being an uh influencer, so many people move to Salt Lake City because of me. They're like, we love where you live, the way your family is, where you go. And I get these random messages of people just being like, We're at your favorite place to get tacos. And I'm like, what the fuck are you a neighbor now? I don't know who you are, but these people just think odd, they connect with you on social media and they automatically think like your best friends. They're like, I I've had some of the most awkward conversations with fans. God bless their hearts, love them, but they will just and you probably know this, they're like, Listen, we're best friends. You don't know we're we're the same. We're the same, and you're just like, uh, are we? This you sound really cool. But but in Salt Lake City, I would there's only so many places to go shoot guns. And I lived in North Salt Lake City, and the only place to go is up in Bountiful, past the big B, where you just drive up in the hills and you go shooting. But everybody else, that's where they all go shooting too. So you can either go to West Desert or you can go to the B. And I remember driving like two, three hours just out in the desert, out in the mountains, and I'd be like, okay, now I can set up, shoot guns, shoot, film funny skit, like freaking do this. And somebody in a Subaru Outback would just pull up and be like, and I'd be like, ah, I'm not an asshole. And I'm like, ow, hey, and they just want to hang out. And you're just like, I'm here to film. I just working. I'm working. Um, yeah, I got away from my wife, my kids, I need to film, but you don't want to be an asshole. Yeah. So what uh also part of my mindset when I moved to Montana was like, okay, I need a place to piss off my porch and shoot off my porch and not see one freaking person. Yeah. So yes, I will take 10 steps back. Now it's more like a thousand steps back, but eventually I will make miles and leap forward by being able to do that content right on site, right?

SPEAKER_06 40:58

That's gonna save you a bunch of time and money. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Do you think your so your your journey on social media and your fame on social media has driven you to where you are now as far as wanting to be out there, like away from people?

SPEAKER_05 41:14

I always wanted to live in the woods. Like I always wanted to be out there. And so right when COVID happened, there actually happened to be an earthquake in uh Salt Lake City as well. And uh my wife at the time, for those of you who don't know, I am divorced now. Uh moved to Montana, got divorced being up there probably like six months or something like that. But in Salt Lake City, my wife at the time, after the earthquake, she was like, we lived up on the hill and she's like, I'm getting vertigo. We should move. And I was like, not gonna happen. I was like, oh shit, really? Because I was building a huge ass deck. Like a timber wave deck. How about you move? Pretty much. Well, this is this is how it works. I was born in Idaho, and I'm just like, wait a minute. I was thinking maybe five, ten years I'd I'd be able to like convince her to move, but she brought this up, and I'm like, Oh, I'm in the middle of building a $200,000 deck who like drop in hot tubs with a wake that you can swim in. Oh, it was beautiful. But moving to the mountains meant more to me. And I was like, You'd move, like when? And she's like, I don't know, maybe like six months. The next day, she had a a moving box on the table, and she's like, It's gonna take us a while. Within three months, everything packed, house for sale, and we were already looking for places up in Montana. And she was like, I knew once I once I got you to, once I got you the idea that we could move, we would move. And I was just like, Well, yeah, you got me. So I wanted to go back to Idaho. She worked up in Montana, like back like when she was 19, selling alarm systems, and she was like, You should check out Montana, but me being an Idaho boy, and I'm like, nothing's better than Idaho, nothing. And uh, but her her contingency was had to be close to a target, had to be close to a hospital, had to be close to an airport. Me, I was like, man, I'll be out there nowhere. And I was like, fine. And the only place that checked those off where I could be off shooting, nobody around with an airport, hospital and target within an hour was northern Montana. So that's how I ended up there. Sold all, moved up there, and then we got divorced. And like through it all, like people are like, You regret it? I'm like, not one day.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

Okay, so you so y'all moved, did y'all build when you moved there? No, no. Okay. Y'all just bought a house. So we moved up there, didn't even buy a house, we were renting. So when you so you were saying you were in the middle of building a deck at the time. Yep, in North Salt Lake. Oh, okay. So y'all were building a house.

SPEAKER_05 43:30

A lot of stuff in North Salt Lake.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

So how's that how's that gone with with with the ex? You know, because I know y'all did a lot of content together. Oh yeah, we were we were uh we were a power couple. Yeah, I mean, and then when y'all split, did it kind of get a little nasty? But I I see now that y'all, y'all seem to be on really it got it got nasty.

SPEAKER_05 43:46

It got really nasty for a while there, you know, real bad. Because I mean, she wanted to move to Florida, Vegas, Huntington Beach. She wanted to be anywhere but Montana. But me, I'm just like, Montana was your idea, bitch.

unknown 43:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:59

This is on you. We're here because of you. Yeah. Like, I'm just like, nope, nope. Um, I'm like, I'm not moving anywhere. I'm gonna die here. Uh so yeah, it was it was a rough, it was a rough two years. Uh, you know, like divorced couples, you know, you hate each other, you're just like, what, what, what? But we really we were really able to mend the toxic uh part of why we got divorced, realizing we both were just in two different places, two different people. And to overcome um the toxicity of your ex, you have to the common bond that we found was the love for our children. We're like, you're not going anywhere, I'm not going anywhere, we're gonna be here for the kids. If we get along, we'll actually be able to see the kids more. We can show up to birthday parties, Christmas, graduations, we can show up and co-parent, and this can be an effective, healthy thing. And if you think about it, more than 50-60% of couples now get divorced. And with that many divorces, why isn't there more positivity with co-parenting being like, hey, we were young, you know, we tried our best, but we can still be friends, we can find the common mutual ground of the love part of our kids and actually get along.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

There's a stigma, I feel like you just when you divorce or break up that you have to like hate each other. There's a huge I was having this conversation with my wife because we you know, we had been talking about you know, uh, some friends of ours that got a divorce and it's getting kind of nasty. I'm just like, dude, like if you just don't want to be with each other at some point, or even if it's whatever, someone cheated, or they're just want to move to another location, the other person doesn't, whatever it may be. It's just like have a talk and be like, look, I think we've grown apart. You know, let's let's we have a kid, especially if you have a kid. Oh, absolutely. Like, I feel like you know, you're you're you're uh we may not be married, but we are in this together 100% for life because of this.

SPEAKER_05 45:50

Regardless of anything, yeah. And yeah, it because it is crazy because people make it their life mission to destroy the other person, make their life more difficult, hard, more harsh than ever before with their kids. I mean, like, I remember my little girl, she, you know, I was living in an RV, she fell off the bunk bed, you know, and it was just like, oh, we gotta go to the hospital, we gotta get stitches, and my ex would be like, What the fu? They're not safe in the RV with you, and it's like they're kids. What do you mean? But people would like other people would be like, I'm gonna sue you, bring you to court, show you're not a fit father, and make it would just be this like lawyer thing, paying lawyers. It would be like a three thousand dollar disc like fight discussion because your daughter fell and you she has to get stitches. And uh luckily we're over we're over all that. We we get along. She she even is like best friends with my girlfriend now. That's all I'm gonna say. Like it's crazy. They all go go do yoga together. Wait, where is she living at? Uh Montana. So she's still in Montana. She stayed. Yep, she stayed. She stayed with a house. She bought a house. Look, she's been dating a guy now for uh four years. I've taken him hunting. Oh wow, you know, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:00

See, that's the key part to to you know keep that relationship going after a divorce. I think is one, it takes maturity of the people, both sides, you know, being mature enough to be able to be friends. But two, it's like when you get in a relationship after that, that's gonna matter. Like your girlfriend's gonna have to be okay and be open to being friends with your ex, and then her new guy or whatever is gonna have like you'd have to be cool with being, you know. I think there's a lot of jealousy that happens in most marriages and stuff after that. And then when they're dating someone else, it's like it's just harder to get along.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Oh, yeah. You know, yeah. Yeah, I just think it's just like we're no longer together. I it I gotta be your enemy. It's just it's still Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

But I'm not as and again, it's it's a social cultural issue. I mean, we are pitted to divide and hate each other over anything.

SPEAKER_00 47:48

Well, I think obviously uh money obviously plays a part, right? You know, there's that um oh, we're no longer together, but you still need to take care of me, or whatever, or whatever it may be. I need half of X, Y, and Z. You know, it's it's just like, dude, like y'all sit down, like let's let's talk. So when my son, my oldest son, mother and uh and I divorced, I was still in the Marine Corps, and when we split up, we you know, we we try to make stuff work, and then we got to the point where it's like okay, where it's not gonna work, whatever. So we sat down and we worked everything out, how I was paying her X amount a month, that's what we agreed on. Everything was cool. And then she moved back home, and then little girlfriends or we're young, we're still young at the time, yeah. But oh, you should do this and you should do that. And then it did things just 180, like we were fighting, it was just it was just nasty. Um but eventually, you know, it got to the point where a guy that she was really serious with was in the Coast Guard, and she had to Coast Guard from the Marine Corps to the Coast Guard, it had to be back to what Michael copy.

SPEAKER_06 48:55

Really, yeah, really good. Yeah, he really stepped up here, babe. Coast Guard, jeez. Right, continue.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Sorry, we had our fun to all our Coast Guard watching. Yeah, we love you. Thank you for protecting our seas, and I love you.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

But you guys are very controversial. But do you know?

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Controversial, like, so that gets it gets real serious, and he gets orders to like uh Louisiana, I think it was, whatever. But um, she's like, hey, he's so he's gonna go down there. She's like moved out of her apartment back when her parents sold all her stuff, and she's like, He's gonna go ahead and head down there, and then he'll let me know when they come. I'm just like, why? Why don't you just go with him? Why don't y'all go together? I was like, if I got orders in the military and we were still married, you would we would move together. And she was like, Well, he wants to get down there and learn the area and his command and stuff. I was like, Yeah, but you're not going to work with him. Like, he would go learn his command and all that stuff on his own. You could learn what's in town. I was like, I don't know. Kevin, we get along really good. Like, don't don't be trying to start anything. Don't make us love each other more, Kevin.

SPEAKER_06 49:57

Stop it. I was like, I was like, I'm not, I'm just trying to use common sense here.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Go be with the man you love. She gets a certified letter in the mail after she sold all her shit. He sent her a certified letter to break up with her.

SPEAKER_06 50:09

What? Yeah, he wanted to make sure she got that because it's I feel I felt stupid. I'm gonna need a read receipt on this. I'm gonna need to know that you got it. It was one of those, like, I told you so, but I felt bad for it. That's why she didn't go. Yeah, he didn't want her to go.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

I'm in Wilmington at the time. I was just gonna get out on the Marine Corps. I was like, look, Wilmington is beach town, you have the beach, better schools here. Oh yeah, you know, there's so much better, you know, uh uh just a better living conditions for our son, you know, whatever. So she came down and dude, I took her around and we shopped apartments. I helped her shop apartments. She stayed in like at my apartment. I I let her and my son sleep in bed. I got an air mattress. Like, my whole point in this is like I did like obviously, you know, not everything was on her, some stuff was on me, but the point the point in this is like at the end of the day, I was like, look, you know, this this woman's gonna be in my life forever. So I was like, might as well get along and co-parent better versions. Oh, dude. I mean, we're you got your nasty fights. We all had our nasty fights. I mean, yeah, yeah. But we do, we get along great now. I you know, I love it. My wife, just like your your your ex and and and and your girlfriend, like my wife and my ex, like she does my wife's hair. Like, you know, my son's mom, you know, is cosmetologist, she does my my wife's hair, and they they get along great, whatever. So, but I mean I'm I'm glad to hear because I mean again, we go back years that we've known each other too, and game you guys on your social media, and and then the I remember when that split up happened, I was like, oh my god, I was like eating popcorn.

SPEAKER_05 51:45

Oh yeah, everybody, oh everybody because social media was so big, and then it's just like, oh shit, this is a public divorce. Oh, yeah. Because you know, there's celebrities, and you know, they get a divorce, and it's the tabloids, and this is up. I was waiting to get served papers. I thought I was I thought I was a part of this marriage. And you're in that niche, people are like, I followed them for years, I've seen them have three kids, they've been to the hospital with these kids, now they're divorced. Like, oh dude, we it it it was a ripple effect with us. Uh, but yeah, now now we uh we get along really, really, really good. And uh just like you. And and now when we're doing content, because we do have you still do content with her now? Yeah, now we're starting to do the ex-couple like content, which is hilarious. We did a sauna video, the first video that we did together. We were in a sauna with my girlfriend, and my ex was in the sauna. And listen, you you probably haven't even seen a picture of my ex-wife, but I paid for a great investment. Yeah. Wow. Like phenomenal invention. Nice shitty, Dr. Chitty gets to know him from Salt Lake City. He now has a reality show, and Dr. Chitty is like the man when it comes to nice teeth. Yes, yeah, and making people smile. Beautiful teeth. Um, wow.

SPEAKER_06 52:58

We were the first we were his first guy. Do we pull those up? No. Let's get those pulled up. But this is why we needed the mom. I'm investing the mom. I need you to look when you post about it and how it becomes everybody's investment.

SPEAKER_00 53:11

The question is though, did you pay cash or do you use credit?

SPEAKER_06 53:14

I use my American expression to the game. Yeah, but uh, but but what's funny is that you get them back after the divorce? I could get residual online investments. Did you get a squeeze every now and then? I get to look at them one time to get one squeeze.

SPEAKER_05 53:31

Exit girlfriend gets a squeeze, someone gets a squeeze afterwards. And that's kind of what the uh the sauna video that we did united everybody. Like my girlfriend and I walk into the sauna, my ex is right there being like, hey guys, and I'm like, and then it goes to her and my girlfriend actually, you know, have a crush on each other, and I'm just like, I'll see you two later. You know, people love the dynamic because we are fired when it comes to social media and having that dynamic of content. As you know, you know, that's like comments are gonna be crazy on that.

SPEAKER_06 54:04

What do the fans say? Like, is there any like he's definitely still hitting that on the you're this blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_05 54:09

How does she and her boyfriend's like are you still hitting that? See, that's what I'm saying, dude. That's what it's like.

SPEAKER_06 54:14

That's what makes it difficult, man.

SPEAKER_05 54:16

It does make it difficult, but that's social media for that.

SPEAKER_06 54:19

You gotta be, yeah, it takes a certain type of person to be able to do social media and to be able to be ridiculed publicly. And then, like, and it's hard to find. It's hard to find. That's why I think a lot of younger kids, you know, teenagers or whatever, that's why social media is tough for them, especially girls, because everything's so critical. But when you start doing social media, you gotta learn to be able to block out the bullshit and just know like this is gonna come, this is gonna happen, people are gonna say stuff. Oh, exactly. But as long as you know the truth and you stay authentic with yourself and you know the deal, that's how you have to kind of navigate it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

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SPEAKER_05 55:54

Right? Yeah, yeah. So I know, I know just because I've worked with a lot of you know veterans and stuff like that, and they all had their opinion of how guys should conduct themselves and everything else as well. And you you are a freaking character. Like, and I know you were a character when you served too. Oh, yeah, you're probably doing push-ups, making everything die and laughing.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Yeah, you know with SabTac, you know, um early on, like I almost, you know, sold the business because uh I was so big into like fitness motivation and that just positive mindset. And then with like you as you were mentioning, with like online, like the veteran community or or military personnel having to think and talk a certain way or or you know it it just it it drove me nuts in the comments. I I don't really pay so much attention to it now anymore, but it it drove me nuts back in the day because in our vertical the gun community, military community, everyone's a pro, everyone is tier one, everyone knows the best. If you do something different than than he does, you know, you're you're you're a dumbass, you don't know what you're talking about, and this and that. And it it drove me nuts, man. Like, and I almost I tried to change the business before I try to sell, I tried to change it into a fitness and motivational kind of like brand. Um, and then I tried to sell afterwards. But yeah, man, I mean I I I completely understand where you're coming from because I dealt with that too for a while, but now I just learned, you know, hey, there's 10% gonna there's gonna be 10% of your of your customer base, your fan base is gonna be noise, the rest of it, you know, you just you can ignore 10% and just focus on the the 90.

SPEAKER_05 57:28

Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's that's one of the biggest things. And when you it's it's so funny just the different communities within the veteran community, the two A community, because one of the communities that I realized is there, but nobody else does, is the community of people who uh wanted to join the military and they were denied. And uh and that is a huge community that nobody realizes is there, and that is a community that I uh belong to.

SPEAKER_00 57:58

That's the Millfin community, you know. Air softers, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 58:02

Yeah, well, and here's the thing is like I I've really gotten into it with people when it comes to well, why couldn't you serve? Why couldn't you serve? And it all comes down to so Clinton, Clinton, um anti-military and pro-military, but he had to give the objective, like, we're not trying to recruit as much, but what is the best way not to recruit as many people as you would without seeming like you're anti-military? You raise the physical standard to join the military. So it's like, okay, what's the severity of your asthma? Your cut. Hay fever, cut, you know, you have allergens, cut, cut, cut, cut. And it's just like, no, no, no, we're not anti-military. We just raise we just we just raised our standard. And uh, so it's really interesting when you look at all the people who wanted to join the military and they couldn't. And it's pretty interesting because I look at that and I'm just like, okay, let's look at the villains. Darth Vader would have been denied for sure. Askmatic, you know, bane, asthmatic, all the bad guys have I'm just like, I totally would have been a bane with the fur coat, you know, the respirator, you know, but it but it's interesting, just the different communities that come out when it comes to anything military United States and wanting to be patriotic, but you couldn't. But then even I've even had military wives come at me and be like, you shouldn't be speaking about this subject because you didn't serve, my husband served, and even like my my second husband's brother served, and you don't have a right. And it's just like, oh, a Betty, Betty, let's just sit down and have a chat. Like, come on now, we're all Americans here. But but coming back to that, no matter what you do, and I went on a little tangent there, I apologize, but no matter what you do, you can't do everything right and make everybody happy.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I learned that I I learned that in the military, and I just apply that now going forward, and it's just like you just gotta ignore. Take take what is useful in those comments that that you can take from and apply to make yourself better, like whether that's personally or or product, that that's what I focus on now. Oh, yeah. And sometimes there's just people are just gonna bitch just a bitch. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, and and we we talked about this uh on our last episode with Cody, like just there's so much hate in the comments, and like it's exhausting. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:20

And Cody, like he was like a he's like you got national hero. I'm uh you get and I thought about this. Wow, you brought Cody on right before me. He was like like hero asthmatic. Okay, thanks guys. Yeah. How long did you guys serve for?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

I was eight years active duty uh in the Marine Corps up here at Cample June.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:39

Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I was like four and a half. I got injured in Afghanistan, hit an IED, fucked my ankle up, but I was able to stay do the whole deployment.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:48

And you told that story on the podcast?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:49

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, um the cat. Yeah, I've shared it a good amount. Yeah, so uh right when we had got into Afghanistan, first patrol we go out on, we're like still in the process of replacing the unit that was there um that we were replacing, you know. So they go through like they show you around, kind of show you the different checkpoints that you're working as they're in the process of leaving. And uh yeah, IED hit one of our guys' convoys and killed one of the dudes. And so I was in the lead truck of the convoy coming up to help pull security for that um incident uh and hit an IED, and I was the gunner in the truck that was in there, but I was able to stay. I could have gone to Germany and potentially had surgery on my ankle, but uh turned it down. So I because I wanted to stay in Afghanistan, I wanted to do the whole year. So I was like, no, I'm staying, I'm just gonna recover here. Yeah, yeah. I got a purple heart um and a combat infantry badge and some other things from that. But I stayed, did the whole you know, one-year deployment. And then when we got back, I was in the I was airborne qualified, so we jumped a lot. The unit I was in, we jumped all the time from helicopters and planes and stuff. Um, and every time I would jump, it was just making my ankle worse and worse and worse. And so if I was gonna stay in, I was probably gonna have to reclass and just kind of ride the desk, you know, doing some bullshit thing that I didn't want to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:07

You could see stayed because I I know when a platoon loses the platoon funny guy, like that is like a tragedy. Yeah, like that's true. Yeah, people are like, no, like everybody feels the effects of that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:20

You're a national hero sticking it through. I enjoyed it. I love deployment. It was like people ask me all the time, like, dude, if we could deploy again right now to Afghanistan, I would go. I got nothing going on. Why not?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

I'd go do another year over there in a heartbeat, dude. Stop that. It's a lot of fun. The great sleeping conditions in the chat.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:37

Sleeping conditions, you know, just you and a bunch of dudes, you know, who wouldn't want to just talk about the man spot, you know. That's the man spot. That's where the man spot is. Afghanistan.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

So manly, I'm denied. Yeah. But what do you think about the new like 42? Like, hey, uh like to be drafted, the the age bracket is like two years old. What do you guys think of change, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

Yeah, a lot of 42 in really good shape. They're making it automatic now or something, right? Oh, like before you when you graduate, you sign up for just like a service.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:05

So they're doing a big thing in December where it's just like, okay, the first draftees have to they have to register. And then it's gonna be, then it's like uh, then the cap is like 42, is that's like you're automatically dude.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:18

That's it was what like 30 dicks or 30 dicks, I think. Yeah, it's gotta be high now because you think about it, like the the Gen Z kids, they're not gonna be worth a shit overseas. They've gotta extend it to 42 so they can get more millennials going over there, and that'll actually deploy. No, that'll be good now because everybody has like a cell phone over there.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:36

So yeah, I give them a cell phone. Dude, the the warfare right now with Russia and Ukraine is insane. The fact that you can actually physically see these guys in the trenches, like shooting each other, you're just like, oh I saw a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:51

I saw a picture of you know, Trump was on the golf course in the Secret Service out there, and they had a the new gun, the new the like the drone gun.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:00

Nobody knew what it was. It was funny seeing the guy being like, all right, thanks to you followers, we found out what this is. It's crazy. It is for sale for $40,000. Civilians can't own it. Yeah, you gotta add that to the the I gotta get it on there.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:17

It's just it jams, it's like different so it causes it to crash or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:22

So the best the best thing to describe this, you you've looked into the Venezuela um. Yeah, the fart gun, yeah. And like the guns that making guys like puke their guts out. They're like using different weaponry. That was different weaponry, but the fact that that guy's on a golf course, like you're just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, were there drones nearby, bro?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

Like I thought about this, like that's pretty sick. When I was like in Iraq and Afghanistan, like on patrols, you're you know, even in convoys, like you know, pressure switches, or you know, they would take rocks out of like walls and then put IDs in and then plaster over it, and then you know, you would they would blow out like you know, you you worried about a lot of that stuff, right? Or small arms fire, obviously. Now it's like, dude, you have something coming at you that you cannot hit. Like, I mean, obviously IDs are hidden, you don't know where they're gonna be, but it's like it's like being in the ocean and you see a great white coming after you, and you can't do shit about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:14

No, you're like you're on patrol and there's like this thing buzzing around and it's like a nine millimeter like that would be scary.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:20

Yeah, talk about death from above, dude. That would be fucking scary scary. You hear the little hum from that drone, and you just know you're about to get your shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

Speaking of the like the videos from I like Russia and Ukraine, like watching those guys just scramble and run for their life, then they just it still gets them.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:35

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, some of those videos, and this is before AI. If you know that shit was real, yeah. You know, I remember seeing this this girl, this Ukrainian girl and this guy just on a live feed with the news, being like, Oh yeah, da da da da da da da da da. And then all of a sudden, drone strike from above because they're having the interview, put out the signal, and this drone comes right for them and killed in the middle of the freaking interview, and you're just

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

Like, oh, if we saw uh another video of like I guess China and like a training or something with like you know those like robotic dogs, yeah, and they have like guns on and they're like going in and like dude the dudes are in there like hit trying to shoot it and it's just coming into the building. And uh dude, war's getting fucking crazy, man. Yeah, just waiting on now terminators.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:22

Terminator too, man. If you need a water hose or something, you just need a water gun for that. Just soak its ass in water, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Now with hose on their ass, baby. Now those guns, are they I mean, I mean, I don't really know the answer to this, so I'm uh you know, I'm sure somebody will snap at us in the comments whatever. But I mean, those guns are they uh kind of like a I mean they're sending out different radio wave, like jammers and stuff that drones brings them down. I mean, eventually are we gonna have like guns that are like firing like many EMPs?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:52

Yeah, so you gotta look at the in in the you know, I'm coming from a civilian, but this is just what I've observed. But I am a classified observer, obviously with all the rabbit holes I've been down with conspiracy theories. Um, but with the drones, so there's the normal drones that went into warfare, and then there's the drones that have the the wire, so they can't be jammed up. Have you seen that? Oh yeah. So if you look up the Ukrainian uh battlefields and you see the drones that have the actual physical wire, they can't be jammed because there's a wire that they're literally dragging across. So when you look across the fields, the battlefields in Ukraine, there it literally looks like a spider web literally covering the fields from other drones.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

And that's still connected to like the controller, right? So it's kind of like a setup like a tow system. I don't know if you're familiar with tow, but tow is basically um it's a big rocket, you know, and it shoots and it's like wire guided. Yeah, no, and the jamming frequencies don't control it still or whatever. It's got these wires attached to it. So it's essentially uh like that. You know, it's been a long time, so um, again, I might have that wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:59

And we we have look we have uh Ukraine and Russia has shown us literally going from Afghanistan to now new modern with drones and cyber. Like it is it is literally a technological battlefield of what we're seeing in.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:17

Well, they said well with with war, with war, usually you get a um technology is you know uh um pushed forward at at such a fast pace that like you're getting so much so much stuff done so quickly because of wartime. Like they've got to scramble. We gotta like it.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:36

Can I jump into this with North Korea? Yeah, go ahead. North Koreans, those soldiers have seen porn for the first time going and serving in Ukraine. Oh, they're fucked. They're fucked now, dude. Like the technology that you that that the North Korean soldiers have, their technology is porn live. They're like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:56

How come I never do? I'm gonna die happy. Yeah, that's wild.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

That's something you don't think. And this is this is the different parts of the world, your different allies, and you know, the different things that are coming into it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:06

Like it is we know the Russians are just having fun with those North Koreans.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:10

Oh, and and Kim Jong Yoon is finally like, I have had these soldiers sitting around for 50 years. Dust off of go exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

I did see, I did see them uh a video of uh Ukrainian, I guess it was Ukrainian, and they have like it's almost like a mini rocket launcher, but it locks on to what signals or or and and I don't know if this works with the the drones that have the wires, but it locks onto their signal and it it launches a rocket and it um it's like a little mini rocket takes out the drones.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:44

Have you seen those yet? I think I have. And and for me, it's so hard because you know, I didn't I didn't serve and I don't know, you know, rockets, RPGs, I don't know like the guidance system stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:57

But still is you know, I've been out since you know end of 2011, so there's a lot of stuff that's changed too. I'm I'm I'm still learning, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:05

Yeah, I mean I I do appreciate the the warfare uh memorabilia you have up here, which isn't even memorabilia that's that's like an RPG, and that's the um uh what do you call it now?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

The ma uhs Moz. I'm on camera now. That is so but that basically replaced the small, which is what I'm familiar with.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:25

Wait, is that the thing in the corner?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:26

The small, no, that's not the small. This is a uh a um a a um what do you call it? Um it's got a clue. It's a it's a toe.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:39

I was gonna say toe because when we were talking about it, I was like, Is it toe? Man, we're gonna get roasted. But the name of that though, because it's like no no no.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:52

You're talking to the small 83 millimeters. Jamie, can you look that up for us? Jamie, we need you. We're gonna get roasted. You know what? Fuck it, let them roast. Yeah, fuck them.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:05

There's a ton of shit out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:09

I had a fucking laser. Yeah, exactly. But when we did break, though, um, we were talking about um the Arctic Treaty, which is very interesting. So I want to I want to kind of jump back to that. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:21

So we're we're we're getting back into conspiracy theories, guys. All right, so we're getting into the Antarctic Treaty. So this gets really deep and it gets really fast. So you have to think after World War II, the Allies and everybody is just getting everything together, and they're like, okay, what were the Germans doing and what's going on? They had some bases down in Antarctica. Antarctica is really close to Argentina. And we know that Germans had a huge presence in Argentina after the Second World War. Hitler didn't die, and uh, he lived the rest of his life in Argentina. And this is that you can actually see this is actual factual. This is no longer a conspiracy theory because the Argentinian president came out and he released uh documentation.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

I I did hear something a little bit about this.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:15

Yeah. That Hitler's still alive or that. No, no, no. He lived out his life in Argentina. Oh, after? Yeah, he had I think it was two daughters. You know, he he was just like a retirement. Uh try to take over the world. Didn't work out.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

Gonna hang out in here, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

Yeah. And then the CIA went down to Argentina and they recruited a shit ton of German scientists, you know, to develop and build NASA. But prior to that, we were trying to find out everything that the Germans were doing because they had the smartest scientists in the world. That's how they allegedly made the atomic bomb. You know, is with uh the whole team was German. Yeah. Einstein, German. You know, we had all these Germans who were the smartest people on earth. Anyways, uh, I I uh Argentina. Yeah, Argentina. So, anyways, so America's just like we gotta find out what's going on. So they found out that Russia, or excuse me, the Russians are doing their own thing, you know, the Berlin Wall, you know, the division there, but America, because we entered the war in World War II, America became the world's superpower. We ultimately took hand, and the American dollar became the American uh world currency. So we gained so much from entering World War II. And that's why it's just like we didn't enter World War II to save people in concentration camps. It's just like no, we seized the day to become the world's superpower. And a lot of people, this goes back to conspiracy of Pearl Harbor being like we knew it was gonna happen. We wanted it to happen because there was so much controversy of American citizens saying we don't want to join another world war. We already did World War I. We are not getting into World War II. But obviously, after Pearl Harbor, America was like, screw this, let's get into this, let's finish it. But you got to think, after Japan did that to Pearl Harbor, what did America do? What's the first thing America did? Let's go fight the Germans.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

Yeah, it's like let the Germans. The Germans bombed us. Why are we going after Germany first? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

Now, do you think that's because like our Pacific fleet was crippled and we were able to cross the Atlantic and go and hit Germany? Because that was obviously Japanese ally. So we were like, hey, we can't get started this way. Let's get started this way.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:31

And and that's the whole thing, too. The Japanese could have completely demolished and ruined us more so in Pearl Harbor, when you look into it, because the Japanese did not bomb any of the oil uh fields where we were holding all of our oil and tankers. Had they bombed where we were holding our oil and gas, oh, oh, dude, we would not have been able to be a force like we were, like in Midway or anything. History would not have been the same if Japan came back and did some more runs at Pearl Harbor. They had the means, they had the manpower, they had everything. We were still defenseless, but they didn't go back. Why didn't they go back? And this is what I think. The thought is they were told this is as far as you go, and that's it. You can do as much, I think it was two or three runs that they that they came and did as much damage as they could, but they could have done a lot more. And that that is also a conspiracy theory is like we just needed a reason for to get the people to back up the war just like 9-11. A reason for the people to back up being like, Yeah, let's go to war. You have to give the masses a reason to go to war in order for them to be like, absolutely, let's do it. And that's what gets back into Congress. You know, Congress 100% World War II, yes, we're going to war after 9-11. Congress, yes, 100% we're going to war. Now, when a president wants to go to war, he's like, this is a military operation. He doesn't need Congress's approval because he's doing a military operation. Like everything's kind of changed. And it's really interesting to see how and why that happens and why that changed. But, anyways, I digress. We're getting back into the treaty. I believe it was 1957 or 1958, the Antarctic Treaty was signed. This is after Admiral Byrd actually went down to Antarctica with over 10,000 troops. They did a parade, I believe, through New York City, about the vehicles that Admiral Byrd was going to go down into Antarctica with. And there are these massive ship trucks, like ready to scale anything. So, anyways, he goes down there and on live TV, after he comes back, he tells the interviewer, he's like, There are lands in Antarctica that are bigger than North America that are undiscovered. And he said that on live TV. So it's just like, whoa, what the hell? So the Antarctic Treaty signed, and for those people who don't know, every nation in the world signed the Antarctic Treaty. Enemies of enemies of enemies, everybody signed this treaty, being like, nobody claims Antarctica, nobody goes down to Antarctica, it is very controlled, nobody gets the minerals. No, this is it. Completely controlled. Russia signed it on one condition, because remember, the Berlin Wall. We are now getting toward the Cold War with Russia at this point. Just it's building up. And Russia was like, okay, we'll, we'll, we'll sign this, but we're only going to be in it for a certain amount of time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was 50 years that Russia said that they would be. We're now getting to that time limit now of where Russia wants to now bail out of the Antarctic Treaty. So it's very interesting when it comes down to this because it's all controlled. So when people are like, Yeah, I've been down to Antarctica, you're like, oh, really? It's all controlled. I believe there's three different places if you wanted to go down to Antarctica right now that they control and they tell you where you can and can't go. And there's like a peninsula down in Antarctica, and there's like two other places, very controlled. You cannot go off on your own. If you do, you're only limited to so much gas in your snowmobile. Like everything is so controlled. There was a kid on YouTube who recently went down there, I think like a year ago, like a 17-year-old kid who was trying to fly to every um he was trying to fly to every every um continent in the in in the world. And uh I he I last heard he died off because when he went to Antarctica, they were like, You're staying here, kid. Like you're not leaving anywhere anytime soon. Like, yeah, you flew down here, like everything is so controlled down there. And they say, This is where the conspiracy theory comes in, that like Admiral Byrd said, there are lands that are bigger than North America beyond Antarctica down there. And when this goes back to what we were talking about with the Afghanistan giants, yeah, you know, where the mer the Marines, you know, whole division was killed, platoon was killed, and then the second one came and they actually killed the giant. This comes down to the folklore talk of like military personnel being like, yeah, we've been down there. There's a lot of shit down there that we can't say anything about. So we're gonna be really running into it because if and this right after the Antarctic Treaty was signed, guess what was created? NASA. NASA was created after the Antarctic Treaty was signed. So I believe the Antarctic Treaty was 1956, meant 1957. NASA was created in 1958, 59. I'm I'm uh I'm on a year or off. Forgive me for that. When when did when did when did Superman become a comic? So Hollywood then took over. Because I'm thinking so when you think about that, I'm thinking NASA, aliens, I'm thinking government. You're thinking now you're thinking Star Trek. Star Trek is the one that Crystal Fortress they took the lead, and Hollywood is just like, okay, this is how the world is, this is what's going on, and this is how it is. They make people start thinking, oh, the world is a globe, and this is how it is. And you get a lot of people like re-written, like history has changed. You know, you you talk about when we get into conspiracy theories, the the reset. There's the world resets. You get into thinking about history, like what happened prior, who really discovered America. There were Vikings found here before Columbus was found here. Why did Columbus go on his mission? Who was he sent by? Where was he denied by? You get into so much different history when you look into world history. And that's the thing about me. Like, I don't care the history, just give me the facts. I don't care what I learned in high school. I can put that to the side and I just want to relearn with facts. Like, I am not biased towards one way or the other. Just give me the facts and let me develop my own opinion about that. That's that's how I look at things.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:42

That's interesting. I'm gonna have to look into that too.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:45

I mean, so but what makes you uh I saw a wormhole or something too. Wasn't there a wormhole? That's what I had heard was in Antarctica. That's what they were trying to keep from us finding out, was like this wormhole that opens up that you can travel through. And I don't know where it takes you, like if it does go to the stadium.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:06

I wonder if like you've heard about the Mandela effect, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:11

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like the Monopoly guy. Did he have did he have the the monocle? The monocle, did he have it? No. Did he have it? I have no clue. See, did he have the monocle? No.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:25

Did Fruit of the Loom have the basket? Oh yeah. You know what? He he did. Oh, yes, the Fruit of the Loom.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:32

I want you to think he had so there's there's these huge things about like what timeline are you coming from? What do you really think about?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:40

That is trippy because yeah, there's been a few. I think the Bearstein Bears is another one. Barsteen Bears is another one.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:46

That's that stuff is trippy. Yeah, and Chick-fil-A, how it's spelled if you look at Chick-fil-A. If you look up the Mandala effect, you're gonna be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I know for a fact it was this, I know for a fact it was that. Like, what are you talking about? Like Ace Ventura. So Ace Ventura, you know, we're going back to Jim Carrey. Um, that in in the episode, it shows the mop monopoly man with a monocle, and he's like, you! Yeah, you and he comes at the monopoly guy and he's wearing a monocle. Yeah. But according to Google and everything else, the monocle was never there. The monopoly guy in the movie had that. In the movie, he has it. Yeah, but in real life, he doesn't reality. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So now Mr. Peanut had it though, right? Yeah, well, there's also a thing about Curious George. Did he have a tail or didn't he have a tail? I thought he did.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:41

He did have a tail. But according to Google, he doesn't have a tail.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:46

So that's that's a mandala effect of like something's we all remember it as it was. We all remember it as it wasn't. So another one that I'll throw at you guys was the uh the genie movie uh with Sinbad. And there's also Shaq. Do you guys remember there being two different genie movies? I remember this one too.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:07

And I I didn't know there were two, but I do remember Shaq. I guess, yeah, maybe I didn't know. He was Shazam too at the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:14

There was yeah, there was Shazam and yeah, so that that's the thing is with part of the Mandela effect, they're like people are like, oh yeah, I know I remember Sinbad was in one for sure, and everybody remembers Shaq. So according to the Mandela Effect, Shaq, yes. Sinbad genie movie never happened. It's part of the Mandela effect. So, and people are like, No, I swear, and people have movies, they have physical copies of the differences of happening with this. So, wrapping this back up to the wormhole, the time traveler stuff, people are saying our time like everything is getting affected with that. And again, I don't care, I just want to know the facts and how it is, you know. I'm just unbiased.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:59

I just want to know the history. So, my my biggest question is though, with with all the satellite stuff we have in space, how come with with with Antarctica, like nothing has been they don't show anything? Like, how come nobody has come out and be like, hey, there's this down there?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:14

Yeah, that's that's the thing too. When it comes to the moon landing, the guy who directed the moon landing was the guy who also directed The Shining. He was a director in Hollywood. And have you guys seen the new oh we're getting into another conspiracy baby? Oh, I'm getting into them all. Oh, I'm just eating this up. Oh gosh. So have you heard about the two the so we just went to the moon, we circled back, we just did it one just to, oh hi moon, how are you? And we just turned right around, right? So you know the lady that was in the moon that who was a part of the crew? Oh yeah, she was also in a movie. Um, oh gosh, sorry. Um, with uh it's kind of like the Mad Max. It's the new Mad Max series. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:53

Okay, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's a character. Yeah, she's a character in that that the new Mad Max series, in essence. She is an actor in it. And also the African American man, who is also an astronaut, is also seen in season one, I think it's like episode three or something like that, of uh oh shoot. It's a gosh, sorry, I'm having like a reality show? No, no, no. This is this is actually a TV show of um it takes place in the 1950s nuclear war. Um, the guy who has no nose with the cowboy hat. Um Fallout!

SPEAKER_01 1:25:37

Thank you, Jamie.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:38

Oh yeah, thank you, Jamie. Walt Doggins, my favorite actor. He's he's our new Jamie. So out of Fallout, so the black, the black guy who's in uh the moon, the moon, who just went to the moon, he is actually also an actor who is in Fallout, season one, episode three, or something like that. And you can see these uh, you know, online. So there are two uh people who just went to space, the moon, drove by the moon, who are actually actors. And they say that, yeah, we actually found these people on casting, and it's just like so you can be an actor and you can be an astronaut.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:11

Well, Katie Perry's proven to us that that anything's possible. She's my favorite astronaut. Listen, she like went up and down, like basically riding an elevator into space and back down makes you an ask. Oh god, that would have been worthwhile. They should have left her ass up.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:32

And that was another thing, though, is uh the Amazon man opened the hatch. He screwed up. Did you see that? How he opened the hatch and landed? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. He opened the hatch, he's like, oh hello, oh shoot, I need to shut that. Now you guys come out. Yeah. Like the whole thing is just staged. Like, none of that happens. Yeah. Exactly. That is so wow. But again, it all comes down to the Antarctic Treaty. It all comes down to NASA. It all comes down to NASA when NASA was developed. We give NASA like millions of dollars a day to create the program. What are you doing with all that money? Because I mean, like literally the girl, and you can see all the conspiracies of the moon, the the almost moon landing that they just did, and the green screen and how they just it's it's just a production.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:18

Dude, that's so wild because I was just having the thought to myself the other day after seeing all this space stuff, and I had watched some documentaries uh recently around space. I watched one on Apollo 13 and all that kind of stuff because I never really knew the story, but all this money and all this work that goes into it, I was just thinking, like, all right, so what good has come from us going to space? What really have we accomplished about going into space? What does that do for us? We can't go to Mars. I mean, everybody's trying to and stuff. We're not gonna live on fucking Mars. That's not gonna happen, dude. It's not gonna happen. What is what the mission from it?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:55

The mission was to go to Mars, so they changed it. That's why this flight. Right here. Well, just to go to a test flight. A test flight to go well, it's gonna colonize the moon. That's that's Elon's mission, next mission. It was going to be Mars. So might as well start there and then get that right and then go to Mars.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:20

Well, it's very interesting because when you get into the Apollo missions, and this this is just history based. I'm just uh I'm just a give me the facts and let's learn from the facts. So when we go to the Apollo missions, it's pretty funny because it was Apollo 13, we know, like, oh my gosh, they were supposed to go, but now we had to get them back. And then uh after we go through the Apollo's, guess why they shut the space program down? It's because the ratings on TV fizzled to absolutely nothing. Nobody cared about going to space anymore. So they coincidentally shut the program off because no one cared. Well, what's interesting during the space race, as we know about the Russians in America, they interviewed a Russian scientist and are like, so the Americans are going to the moon. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:06

And the scientist in his broken English was like, very interesting because the moon is made up of plasma, so I don't know how they're going to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:15

And you're just like, what the fuck did he just say? And then when you see the when you see the Germans, when you see their uh when you see like their research of the moon, they the the moon is a reflection of the earth. So when you flip the moon, what what it's looking at, if you flip it around, it is a reflection of Earth.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:40

What's it reflecting all of? The moon.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:43

The moon is reflecting Earth. You just have to do it backwards. But if you look this up in a rabbit hole, you're gonna see what the Germans were doing, and you're just like, okay, I don't trust my government. I don't trust my government worth shit, okay, at all. Yeah, I mean, they're eating and raping kids. Like, why the fuck would I believe them at all? Why would I believe them about NASA? And again, I'm just again, I keep on saying I'm a factual person. I'm not a creator. Like, yeah, I live in the woods, I don't have a lot of friends. Like the me socializing with you. Yeah, right. You've got all those follower friends, dude. You're best friends.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:22

They know you. You have like 500,000 friends, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:25

When I go to the lows and somebody knows me, I'm like, oh dear God. Please let me get out of this as fast as possible.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:34

There is a wormhole in Antarctica. So suck it, and that's all I got on that. There's no scientific evidence of a theoretical wormhole. However, scientists have identified a massive gravity hole, a gravity anomaly caused by dense rock structures deep within the earth, and separately a polynia, a polynia, a giant temporary hole in sea ice. So it's a region where the force of gravity is slightly weaker than the surrounding areas. But some people think it's like a time traveling, and they're trying to keep that hidden. That's why the treaty was there. Everybody signed it, not to talk about it, because we had found this special way to travel in space and time, you know. Yeah, Superman's forgers, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:20

100%. 100% is exactly what it is. And he just threw a rock right in there and then a crystal castle. Yeah, the crystal. Yeah, of course. But I mean, g go into that back fact, uh, that there is pyramids also in Antarctica. I heard that too. Like there is in Egypt. Yep, and those were power stations using using um free power to power everything. Those were the power stations, and they were using the firmament to give us that power.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:48

It is pretty bizarre when you look at like ancient civilizations and uh like how pyramids uh like slightly different, but pyramids altogether uh all around the world. But like that's pretty that's that is that's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:01

And why can't we go to the freaking Grand Canyon? You know, like 30% of it, maybe even 40%, is completely cut off by the government, and we can't go climbing down there.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:10

And they say it was the city of gold. The city of gold is down in the freaking Grand Canyon, and we can't go there because the government will cut us off from it.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:20

Why is that? Is that why Fort Knox? The old Fort Knox is what they say was the old world. They say there was a huge civilization living down in Antarctica which had pyramids and had sphinxes just like uh Egypt.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:40

I saw like the deep earth radar scans. They did the the underneath the pyramids, they're saying there's columns.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:48

Oh yeah, yeah, there's so much stuff. And then you talk about the melted, the melted cities, and you're just like, dang. And then when you get into the blimps, when you get down into the blimp rabbit hole of why we no longer can cruise around on blimps, it gets really into it. Wait, what I haven't heard of that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:05

You haven't heard of the blimp? Uh huh. A rabbit hole. Well, so when was the last time you heard about blimps?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:12

Man, one time, right? Tell me about that. They're dangerous. They blow up the helium. Yep, yep, they blow up the helium bad Eisenhower that went down?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:20

No, what the fuck did you just say?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:22

The Eisenhower, Jamie did it.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:25

Hindenburg, dude. The Hindenburg. So the Hindenburg happened, and it was such a huge like newspapers, Hindenburg happened, people died, blimps are bad. How many airplanes have gone down and crashed, and we just keep flying around like nothing happened? So Yeah, why did we stop the blimps? Blimps were safer, more luxurious, better. Slower though, right? Slower, but the accommodations were so much better. Like on an airplane, you're sitting there bouncing around, especially back then in the late 1940s, 1950s, bouncing around, but then they even got better. But the the blimps is where they say they really took like a blimp would be cheap enough for everyone, in essence, to own a blimp, like it would be a car. And you could travel everywhere slower, wow, energy sufficient. It's like having a sailboat that you have more control of, and you can just cruise around and you can go past Antarctica. You can travel, you're not controlled, you're able to do it yourself, and helium lasts longer. It's slower, yes, but you're able to get to where you're going. And they say that was taken from us to control us and travel and being able to control the dollar and how we can travel versus ship versus train versus everything else.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:49

Yeah, and the fact we still need all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:51

I just gave you guys like 12 rabbit holes. Yeah. I I'm sorry to your girlfriends and your wives. Like you guys are ruined.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:58

I live alone, so I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Uh Sam and a dog. I do have a dog. Uh, he'll appreciate this as well, but plenty of stuff. Been watching a lot of crime documentaries, so this will be a nice switch uh you know, to start going down. Yeah, you know, you're you're well you're more.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:15

I've got more when you're ready in chapter two.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:18

I know you're gonna have to shoot some of me because some of the stuff I haven't even heard about is mind-blowing. But it's definitely interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:23

I mean, yeah, you have to get it in doses, because I mean half the people here have already clicked out, or or they've either clicked out and they're just like, yes, I've heard about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:30

I want to know more. This guy for president.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:33

They've got open, yeah, open tabs going. Well, that's the problem like with conspiracy stuff, is that because there's some crazy stuff out there, right? I mean, there's stuff that's we could make that we haven't even gotten into lizard people shape shifting, you know, we haven't even gotten into Ruin's conspiracy theories that are actually probably true. You know what I mean? Like what's his name got in trouble for that?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:56

But that's part of the that's part of the system, though, right? Yep. Like uh Alex Jones. Well, Alex Jones the fuckers making the frogs gay.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:07

Yeah. And now it's just like, oh shit, that's that's actually.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:09

And then when he started talking about Standy Hookers later, Jones has been right about a lot of stuff. He was right about a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:16

Until he started the Sandy Hook thing, and now he's been sued for like a hundred million dollars. Uh but that was the but that that makes everybody else think that everything else he says or whatever, it couldn't be true. So it's like you start talking about lizard people are shape shifting, it makes the Hindenburg story not feel real too. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:34

Oh, it everything's intertwined, interconnected to it with it all. And it's just like, wait a minute, Hitler wasn't killed, like but the Russians say it was, but they just wanted that as a trophy. It's like what? Like it committed suicide. That's right. He wouldn't have committed suicide, dude. That doesn't matter. You know, and then you find out it was a female skull that they found, and the dental records just happened to be there too. Hitler's dental records. Yeah, here he is, guys. Yeah, he committed suicide. Here he is. It is pretty crazy. But uh yeah, going back to your uh question though, about yeah, what's next for the man's where I'm going. So I guess you know, to tell you, I guess this relates to more than half the people out there who have gotten divorced and everything. I went down a real alcohol battle when I was in Montana. And uh, you know, I you know, there's not a lot of people where I'm at. I don't I can't see a neighbor, I can't see a one person where I'm at. It's how you wanted it. It's how I wanted it. Exactly. That's what you asked for. Yep, exactly. But what compensates for that? And for me, it was like alcohol. It's like, and when it comes late at night, it's just like what's warm, fuzzy, and just gets me, you know, in a different mindset. It's like the same as calling your best friend at night, being like, yo, what's up, dude? What's happening? You know, to instead of calling my best friend at night, it'd be just be like, hey man, I'm gonna hit the handle. Oh yeah, you know, so so there were some real dark times, you know, just out there dealing with alcoholism, dealing with the uh I guess you could say I came into fame so quick and fast, and then I got divorced and came crashing down while wilt moving. Because when I went through my divorce, other people may, you may relate to this as well. I thought we were going through a hard time when she was already mentally checked out. And I think that's where a lot of divorces happen is because they're not aligned and we were not aligned. And I came from such a staunch religious uh background because I grew up Mormon and uh, you know, I had five siblings in my family. You know, you and and and Mormon faith is just like boom, boom, boom, you don't question authority, you don't question anything, you go on your mission, you come home, you get married, you know, at 21 years old, and then you live your life and you have six kids and you serve in the church and you keep on going. Like, like that was how I thought life was supposed to be. So I didn't get married until I was like almost 30. Uh so which is very bad in the Mormon faith. It's like, whoa, what's wrong with you? You're so old, like what's going on? But I didn't get married until 30. But then when I did get divorced, I was like, oh my gosh, I am the ultimate failure of failures. Because, like, like any old Catholic or Mormon couple, you do not get divorced at all. You stick it through. I that was my mindset. I would have stuck it out in that marriage if I was miserable, if I was like, whatever. I was like in that mindset of like, I'm gonna stick this through. But when she was like, Yeah, I'm out, I was like, okay. It took a minute for me to realize I'm unhappy too. And this is the best thing for me as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:26

But it just took like I mourned what what I'm gonna cut you off there, but what was the what was the driving factor for you both that made you unhappy? Like what what was it that upset you guys to be like I'm not I mean I guess not uh upset, but what where did the love go? And you know I mean Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:49

So so the thing is with us is like we had three kids so fast. Like our last two kids are um Irish twins. And for those people who don't know, that's when you have two months. Yep, me and my brother. Yep, and uh it's under under a year old. So I have two kids that are the same age for uh like just over a month, I think of what it is. So we came into fame so fast with social media, we had a family so fast with social media, and the physical connection just isn't there because she, you know, the hormones going through pregnancy, you know, and then me, you know, I'm a physical touch guy. If I don't get the physical touch, you know, I, you know, I don't feel like I'm connecting. So it was just a separation, and then I'm like, okay, we're just going through a hard time. And, you know, both of us make mistakes, you know, talking to different people, but then coming back, going to, you know, we we did do uh counseling, marriage counseling, and that type of stuff. So we thought we were doing the right things, but ultimately, you know, when we moved to Montana, I started drinking pretty heavily, and she was a part of a MLM where she was like a queen with her MLM. She and I call them the the the what is that MLM? Oh uh so she had uh Arbon. Arbon was like a makeup thing, and then uh it's when you have different people underneath you and you sell the makeup products, they have different people underneath them, they sell Mary Kay stuff, kind of yeah, it's it's just like Mary Kay, just a different version of it. So, anyways, I call them the the hens. She had all of her hens, just always cackling hens. So when you were talking about your ex-wife and like the the cackling hens is what I was gonna bring up, you know, you just get this negative energy, and these women are just saying you should divorce him, he's not good enough, this and that, this and that. And before you know it, they listen to them versus they think the grass is greener, and then you know, out. And our divorce, I will say this it happened so quick. Um, it was a civil divorce, no no attorneys involved. It's a civil divorce three weeks, bam, done. No, three weeks. Because in my mindset, I was like, You can always get back together, but you can never always have the greatest divorce. And she was motivated to get divorced, and then I was just like, okay, I'm I had to come to terms that I'm not happy either. I'm like, okay, let's just sign it, get it done, done. And it was it was finished. So obviously, going through that, like I mourned losing the traditional family unit more than I mourned my wife. Uh so that's that's what the culprit was for me, is because I'm like, I can't give my kids that traditional family unit of waking up to mom and dad, going to bed with mom and dad. So that that's what I struggled with the most was losing the traditional family unit, not being able to give that to them. Um, so yeah, so I had my alcoholic, you know, just like that was my comfort. That was my best friend. Like, oh, I'm going to go to bed, you know, when I don't have my kids, alcoholic. When I had my kids, I was on it, like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, I was living in an RV, you know, with the kids, no running water, you got to wash your clothes at the laundromat. So it was very primitive, but it made us almost that much, you know, closer, you know, going through that hard times. So, you know, the next stage for me is you know, to finish the house, show, show, and this is what people have appreciated about my content versus other gun influencers is like I show my flaws. I show life isn't perfect. Like, I show that I'm a hoarder. I love buying shit from antique stores like nothing else. I am, I buy junk. People are like, that's trash. I'm just like, that's gold.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:14

You know what you need is a new antique road show, like kind of like we're on the go.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:19

I really do. And I think that's the one thing that I've really been able to diversify myself with on social media. Yes, I love guns, I love the Second Amendment, I love our rights, but I'm also just my own quirky person that loves antiquing, I love thrift stores, and I'm just a quirky weird guy, you know, and I've come to terms with that. Yeah, I I'll choose to be funny and way too funny and way too out there for some people. But you know, that I I just uh good, it keeps you authentic and yeah, exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:45

You know, in a in a world with social media, everybody is trying to fit the mold. You're you're like you're making your own mold. You're you're being true to yourself, whatever. So that's great, man. I mean, I think that's why people love your content and you know, follow you and and feel like they're a part of your your life and your marriage.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:01

Yeah, yeah, everything, everything. They feel like they're a part of it all.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:05

So yeah, and my my girlfriend, you know, we've been together almost three years now, you know, and she's a nomad. She was living in a car for two years, traveling, you know, all over the country. She made her own YouTube page just about her travels and hikes and like she like when when I first came across her page, I was like, man, she is such a hippie and a liberal. She's gonna hate me. She won't even follow me back. But her journey intrigues me because like she did this, this like just this open, like store, like uh uh just a quick reel of her being like, hey guys, I'm in a Walmart parking lot. I'm pissing in the bushes. This is my life. I'm not working uh nine to five at a in a in Florida, which I hated. Now I get a travel. But sometimes you have these moments where you smell like shit. You're pacing, you're pissing in some bushes. A car drove by, they saw your ass. And then you think like a hundred other people saw your ass because you're pissing in the bushes. She's like, but this is my life and this is what I love, but I'm just having a hard time. Like it was so raw and authentic. I was like, this chick is really cool. I'm gonna follow her journey. She followed me back, and then she did this question-answer where people are like, So, where's your favorite place to visit? She's like, Oh, North Montana, Northwest United States. And I was like, That's a Montana. So I quickly messaged her and I'm like, hey, I have a forest. Yeah. You are welcome to come to my forest and a montana in my bushes.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:19

I'm just like, I'm close to uh I'm I'm close to what I want to see your ass peeing in bushes at my property. And she was just like, and I guess the knock is a big thing for nomad people when they're like driving, they dread the knock, you know, the authorities. When they park somewhere on the highway in a parking lot, and the law enforcement knocks on the car and they're like, hey, you gotta get going. Yeah. And I was like, hey, you won't be bothered here. And she's like, No, that's actually great. You're close to you know, I guess eggers, you can just I won't bother you.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:51

I won't bother you. You slid right into them DMs. Past the DMs, dude. You slid into her lifestyle. Yeah, just come, I won't bother you, won't be knocked on here. Two months later, you're having sex with her in the You know the movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:05

You won't be bothered. No, what's the TV show where the the hole in the ground? And it's like he goes, it's like you jump in it, it's like another dimension.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:12

Oh, that's in Antarctica. There's a wind hole. The gravity is actually lower than it's going back to the warm holder.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:19

Uh what was it called?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:21

Code holes. It's called holes. Is it no? That's that's that's with Michael Jackson or uh Michael uh holes with Michael Jackson. That sounds interesting. Even Steven's Steven's.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:35

No, but there's a there's a there's a dialogue? Yeah, dialogue. I don't know if it's on anymore, but it do you know. What's tell us more about the freebie? It's what? No, it's like they're they have a ranch and there's like there's this like hole in the ground, and eventually you fall into it, but you fall into another dimension, essentially. But you can travel back and forth or whatever. Anyway, but now you're giving me something I think about that there's a chick living just out in his his property, he lets her live out there. I'm like, no, this reminds me of this TV show.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:09

That's exactly what it's like. Yeah, yeah. So she You don't have a wormhole though. Yeah, no wormhole. But yeah, she uh or she she gets the itch to travel again. But yeah, she's been coming back and forth, and we've managed to make make this work, so it's pretty cool just to still travels now. She still travels here and there and uh does it, but now it's it means like last time she went to Arizona for like four weeks. I went there for the first like 10 days, and then I flew back for my kids, and then she kept on traveling and she came back.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:36

Has it has it changed her like dating a celebrity?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:40

Well, she she also has over a hundred thousand followers.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:43

Oh before before after she had 60, I think when she came and saw me. So it was kind of, but not, but you know, is she got it? It's very helpful when somebody gets it. If somebody doesn't get it, they're just like, hey, what do you? And it's just like, say, I'm I'm working, you know, I'm just on the phone, I'm working. I and a part of the research, as you know, what's going viral, what's hitting right now. You it part of it is just research. Like, what is hot right now and what could go viral? You know, and if people don't get that, they just think you're doom scrolling. And sometimes it turns into that, but you have to remember I'm constantly looking for things that will go and hit.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:21

Yeah, you know. Yeah, that's a slippery slope, man, because I got into that for a while. Because I went back and forth like with my stuff doing comedy, I try to keep it as original and authentic as I can. But also, it's like you're saying, you have to find what's hitting right now on Instagram or whatever, what style of video, how it's put together, what trends are popular, and then how do I make that my own, or how do I relate it to the comedy I like to do or to pickleball or to whatever it is that I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:47

Which I just saw your video where um the warrior poet was reviewing you as you were why as you were trying to mimic true Exodus getting fast. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:57

I was just I want to do more stuff like that. You did it, you did a great job. It turns into like I found myself where I'm just constantly on my phone now, dude. Like just scrolling and scrolling, and you have to give yourself a break from that. Like, cause I can just get stuck into my phone looking at it over and over, and like then it just turns into me just looking at content constantly. And I've noticed like sometimes I like I have to separate myself from that, and then whenever I do, it's like the content I make when it's just me trying to be original and authentic and more of myself is almost better than just like what I'm seeing on that's already being put, you know. It's just it's funny how the internet can suck you in to like that's the way they want it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:40

Oh, hundred for sure. How can you get people's attention? So so I guess the next stage for me, and the reason I bring up uh my girlfriend is because uh like we're we're trying to like build the house together and we're trying to show a different like my whole purpose of social media also is to show people simply how to live a different life. So I always thought about somebody in a skyscraper working nine to five. And they're just like, this guy is just living a different life, and that's completely opposite. Like, wow. And you can make that happen if you just have the gumption and go to. So I think it's just I want to continue showing just more organic living in Montana, trying to build, you know, no neighbors. Like some people are just like, oh, that's peace. And it's just like, it would be peace for you on a weekend, but could you live this day in and day out? You know, it would every single day. You know, I gotta get the it now that it's summertime, it's like I gotta make sure I have like 12 different chains sharpened to go and start cutting logs to make sure we stay warm for the next winter. You know, so it's very homestead-ish, yet it's still very prevalent. Yeah, it's own struggles.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:42

Yeah, and it's like you were talking about just with the period you went through with alcohol. It's like that's where people don't see the, you know, like, oh, this looks cool and stuff living on my own out here in Montana, but you know, but there's struggles that go along with that, you know, where you don't get the socialization or you don't get to just see people or be around people. And and we obviously need that as you know, a human being. We need the socialization to some aspect.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:05

Oh, you you really do. You really have to make that connection to it's almost feeling like you're a part of a tribe. Yeah. In essence. And you know, I'm still looking for where I in essence belong. Yeah. And uh, you know, I guess I'm just like, me, my problem is it's like, okay, I gotta worry about this problem until it's solved, and then I'll reward myself, but I still have to yet come to that. Yeah, you'll never get to the reward because I'm still just falling on myself, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:29

You got your own Wilsons out there, your handprint on trees, you just you got your own community you're building out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:35

You know, I have become such a tree hugger sometimes out there. You could become a cult leader. I'll be following your cult.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:41

I would join, man. That I'd be the first member. That is one thing I want to do is start making like man man retreats. Yeah. The psychedelics and things, yeah. Whether it be mushrooms, psychedelics, it's just like, hey, you can see stars out here like nothing else. Here's a star specialist to teach you about how we should connect with the stars, with the earth, grounding. You know, there's so much different stuff that guys can get into that uh we've just lost.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:06

Dude, there's it reminds me like when I when I would be in Afghanistan, like out in the middle of nowhere, like no light pollution, whatever, like the most beautiful skies. And like I'm gonna go over you're at, whatever. So you just saying, like, you know, having the stars, whatever, it just reminds me of being out there and just like you know, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:25

Out in Afghanistan, you're just like, whoa, the only difference is you're like is that a shooting star? Like, because nope, mortar round, mortar round. Like how beautiful. Oh shit. Take up like literally as a shooting star.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:37

Holy fuck. As a civilian like Afghanistan, I automatically think of Iron Man, you know? Yeah. A little different.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:47

Well, man, similar but different. You know, I appreciate you making the journey out here. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's it's been a privilege. I I mean, last time we saw each other was what I say, 24 shot show. So yeah, it's been a minute, whatever. But dude, everything you got going on. I love I love seeing the stories and the journey you got going. When's the house going to be done? Hopefully within the next uh four to six months is my goal. Four to six months. So we're gonna four to six months. Make sure you're scheduling so we can go out there.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:12

Well, yeah, when when's your podcast in Montana?

SPEAKER_06 1:53:14

Well, that's we're still scheduling that, so it might be in a couple months, it looks like, but could could be four to six plan it for four, you know. Four to six.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:23

Yeah, that'd be fun to get you out there. Oh yeah, yeah. Bring some bulkhead, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:29

Yeah, let's go. Some bulkhead and chainsaws. Bulkhead. Sounds like a man spot. Bulk kit. Man spot, bulkhead and chainsaws, exactly. And MREs. Have you had an MRE before?

SPEAKER_05 1:53:41

Over here. Just from the Four Service. My my my father was a firefighter in the Four Service. Oh, yeah, they had MREs. He'd always bring these in, being like, here's a treat for you, and he'd be like, Yeah, we cooked some of these together.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:55

A couple episodes ago. It's been a while since we had them.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:58

Did that give you PTSD or did that bring you a couple of things?

SPEAKER_06 1:54:00

I actually like some of them. I like the Chili Mac, which is the one I had. I didn't eat the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:04

I enjoyed it. They get a lot of shit, but honestly, that's some aren't that bad. I'll tell you what, when you're out in the fucking field though hungry. It's just you'll eat whatever. Some aren't that bad though, but we get we give them a hard time.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:18

That's awesome. No, I I appreciate you having me on the show and uh you know, just doing what you're doing, you know, just bringing real life, you know, just conversations to the table of what guys you know talk about, and it's unfiltered, raw, and real. And uh that's also why I love just being a part of uh you know your brands and just being a part of what you're doing. Because I mean you're on fire, man. I mean, if you guys don't know, this guy right here uh he's into so many things. I mean, we're gonna go to his bar right after here. I mean, he has his own bar. Bar with golf simulator. Yeah, his truck.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:52

You seen his truck? He picked me up in his truck, man. It's always like he puts like, what car are you in? You're at the airport, like, yeah, man, what car are you gonna be in? He didn't even tell me. He's like, Oh, I'm gonna pick up truck. I was like, you could have just said the tan monster truck with tan rally lights.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:07

It is rhino line, guys. Yeah, talk about truck is tan rhino line. Even the steering wheel's rhino line. Yeah, boulders dropped on them, it ain't gonna matter.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:18

It's funny. I tell people like, right. When I've when I have that the truck is all done and everything, and I'm like driving around and tell my wife, I'm like, I get so many thumbs up. Yeah, I'm driving this truck. She's like, okay, whatever. Well, we drove to Wisconsin and it's a big thing. Oh, dang. Oh, you burnt through some tires, dude. I'm telling you, uh peep truck drivers beeping, thumbs up, people drive by like thumbs up. What size of tires do you have on there?

SPEAKER_05 1:55:40

So I'm just like, I look at her and I'm like, 38 my 1450s is what I want to say. Geez.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:46

I look at my wife like, okay. Yeah, I look at my wife, I'm like, you thought I was totally lying. Totally advanced up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:54

18-hour drive? There's a lot of thumbs up. Yeah. Babe, I'm the man. Strangers admit I'm the man. Listen, man, strangers.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:03

Yeah, I'm gonna need you to send me the password to the space.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:06

Listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass over the torch, bequeath you the man's hand over. I'm gonna go to the woods and learn more about conspiracy than wormholes. We didn't even touch on.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:18

That's true. Yeah, we'll have to have you back, Juan. Man, it's been it's been a pleasure. Again, thank you for making the journey out here. I know uh I know it was a quick flight, so I appreciate that. And uh, Evan, as always, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:29

It takes uh it takes a lot to get me out of the woods, but you know, when you guys said, hey, come on.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:34

I was like, this guy needs some human contact. I'm like E.T. slippery slope. Let me poke you. All right. Well, um guys, that is um a wrap for episode eight. And uh if you're still with us, you know, I appreciate it. Uh, we all appreciate it, and um hope to have you back for episode nine. Um before we go, again, I want to give a shout out to uh core medical group. Um awesome uh organization. So don't hesitate, hit them up, get your blood work done, save some money, mention like light duty podcasts, and uh catch us back here again for uh for episode nine. All right, man. That's it. Thanks, guys.