Do You Like Your Music, AI?

There's been a wave of AI artists and music these days.  Some times it's hard to tell what's real or fake.  Are you only interested in the music, or does it matter that it's AI?

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Hey yo, what is up, everybody? What's going on? It's your girl Jay, and welcome back to another edition of the Just J Pod. I hope everyone is doing well out there. And uh we are back with another episode. So today we're gonna talk about AI. Now, shout out to Baylor 12 Kyle. Baylor has an episode called uh Me, Myself, and AI. And then I saw that Kyle did a remix to it. And it's so funny because I was actually, by the way, if you have not subscribed or haven't listened or whatever to uh the 12 Kyle podcast, go ahead and check him out and BTG for president. Go ahead and check that podcast out as well. But it's so funny because I had in my notes from like, I don't know, sometime last year to talk about AI. Um, now with Baylor's episode, um, he was talking about AI as a whole, you know, like your car, um your phone, the things you use in your house, like the smart homes and stuff where you can speak to it, it does stuff. And then he went further to say, like, would you let AI cut your hair? Would you let AI drive you? Would you let AI dress you? Would you let, you know, different things like AI as far as like robots and stuff like that? So he went a little deeper. He also talked about music, and that's where my episode was coming from, period. I didn't even really think about other stuff. Um, but I know I did want to talk about it because as someone who listens to music, um it's it's kind of a weird time these days, right? Um, so we're gonna get into um AI artists. And do you listen to AI artists? That's the thing. Nowadays, there are tons of these artists that I see on social media. I don't see them, but I hear people talking about it. Oh, this is the best song ever, and come to find out. It's a song by an AI artist. Now, for me, I know I need to get up with the times. I know I really do, but I am just, I am just like, it's hard for me to fully go and get into AI. And I know it's already around us, I know it's on our phones. When I tell Google to take me somewhere on the map, that's AI. When I'm when I say, hey, Alexa, turn on my lights. I know that's AI. Like, I get it, I know we're already using it, it's already here. But it's like, I don't want to go too far with it. It's like I'm still kind of hesitant to use it. Like, I just started using uh Chat GBT not too long ago. I also heard about this program called Claude that's supposed to be better. Um, I'm just I use it to like when I'm trying to fix my garage door or my my garbage disposal or if I'm trying to find a part that I need for something. Um, I used it for like meal planning and things like that, but I haven't like fully like gotten into it. Like people, some people use it for every single thing that they do. I'm just not there yet. And I know that it's not, I know it's not going anywhere, but I'm just I'm just a stubborn person. Like it took me forever to like literally start using YouTube for to look up stuff. Like, you know, even my mom was like, girl, just go to YouTube and look it up, they'll show you how to do it. I'm like, I'm not using no no YouTube. Like, I'll find it. I'll I'll search on the internet and and find an article or something stupid I used to do. I don't know. I'm just very stuck in my way. So AI is is something that I know is already integrated in what we're doing. It's just I I haven't fully immersed myself in it. And that's where we come to the music. I am very much against AI artists and AI music. I don't like it. And if I know that it's AI, I will not listen to it. I just it's something about it I just don't. It's something about it I don't like. I don't know if it's genuine. I don't know, like it's just it's it's trickery to me. And I know I know artists for you know a lifetime. There are ghost writers. There, some people don't write their own music. There, you know, these people are singing their hearts out to songs and words that they've never heard. You know what I'm saying? So instead of it being like a ghostwriter, now it's AI, I get it. But it's just something about it I don't like. There's this artist, I don't know if y'all heard of her, but it was like this big deal. I remember it's not dateline, maybe 2020 or somebody. Some one of those like news shows did us did a special where they interviewed the artist who created this artist called, or this lady who created this artist called Zanaya Monet. Now, on this special, they said Zanaya Monet had the number one song on the charts for X amount of time. And I'm like, I've never heard this song. And I went to go look it up, and I'm like, I've never heard the song before. So I don't know what chart it's been on, but I've not heard it. But you know, people listen to music now through social media, and so if it's on your algorithm and you click on it and whatever, you end up wanting or downloading the song. I guess that's how that happens. I never heard of her or the music, and then I go to her page and I'm sitting here, like in some ways she might look real, but in other ways she doesn't. Like you can see, it's just like the videos is just a loop of her doing the same thing, it don't even look real. Um, and so the lady who's who created this uh this character, she said, uh um, oh I guess her name. I see her name. Talisha Nikki Jones is her name. And what she says is these are her words. She writes poetry. Um, she takes these words and puts them into this program called Is it Sonus? Something like that, which takes the words and puts music to it. And you have to prompt it. I want a hip-hop song, or I want, I want a gospel, I want an RB song that has gospel feel, or I want, you know, whatever. And it pushes out these songs, and then she puts the songs out and on social media, I guess, and then people they eat it up, they love it. Um, and so there was some controversy because there are certain artists. I know Victoria Monet was one of them. I think Kyle uh Kalani was another one that said, like, okay, well, if you can just be any regular person and go put some words into this machine and then it pops out music that becomes popular, then what happens to us real singers? Like, what happens to us real singers and songwriters? Like, is it going to cause us to be obsolete? Are we getting knocked off the chart because this fake, like it's not even real? This computer generated music and song and artist um are popular now. I remember, I want to say this is back in 2020, maybe a little bit before that. I remember reading a story where a record label actually signed an AI artist, which I was confused on how you even do that, but they signed this AI artist who was like this rapper guy, I think, um, to like million-dollar contract. I'm like, I'm trying to figure out who are you paying? This this AI artist is not real. It is words that got put into a machine. So who exactly are you are you paying? And it said it was like a trend where more AI artists are going to be getting signed. And then what a couple years ago, maybe, maybe a year and a half ago, Timberland decided he was going to make a record label strictly for AI artists and AI music. And he was going to get into AI. And it was it was speculated because he used to host these um, he used to host these talent shows on his TikTok where people will come and sing and rap and stuff for him, and you know, he would listen to him. I mean, I don't know if he signed anybody from that, but it was rumored that, like, wait a minute, you bring in your songs, your words, and all your stuff to this man, and he's just using that to make his AI learn stuff, and eventually your stuff is what's gonna get put out, but it's not gonna be you, it's gonna be whoever this AI artist he comes up with. And I think he came up with an AI artist that was kind of like an Asian artist, kind of like a K-pop or something like that. Um, but it's it's all been weird. It's just it's weird, and I don't like it. I just want regular music from regular dagger artists, and I want to be able to see them walking down the street or just enjoying their life. I don't, I don't want to see this fake loop of like a perfect, a perfect face, a perfect body um in this in this space that is so vibrant and everything looks good. And it's just it's just too much. It's just too much for me. I don't I don't like it. I don't like it. It's it's pretty funny because um when I was back at home with my mom a couple of weeks ago, there's this lady that uh goes to church with her. And I don't know how we got on the subject, but we were talking about uh she was telling me, oh, I like this this man that sings this church song. Uh oh, okay. They were talking about playing music at church because their church um streams on YouTube, and sometimes they um it's certain songs that they can't sing or play in church and stream on YouTube because YouTube will cut the video off or whatever, right? Because of copyright. And so she was like, Oh, I found this artist, he has some really good gospel songs, and they allow us to play that. And I'm like, Well, are you sure? I just out the top of my head, I was like, Are you sure it's not AI? And she was like, No, she was like, It's not, no, this is a real man, and I was like, Let me see. She was like, Yeah, he got a video that um he's wearing his hat. And I was thinking, like, why is he wearing his hat in church? You know, that's kind of disrespectful, but he's wearing his hat and he has the choir and all this other stuff. Yeah, he's not, he's he's for real. And I was like, Yeah, but AI can be videos too. No, no, this is a real man. So I was like, let me let me see his, let me listen to what it, what the songs are, and not pull them up on YouTube, and I can just hear it. I'm like, this is not a real song. Like, I can hear, it's just something about it. I can hear that it's not a real artist. So I'm trying to find the videos or whatever. Find a video, and it's clearly AI. I'm like, no, no, this is AI. No, it can't be. I was like, yeah, come look, I'll show you. And she was like, Well, how is it? Like, he's standing right there. Like he, I was like, Yeah, but look at the people behind him. Every time he moves his mouth, they're moving their mouth. Like, that's not that that's not a natural thing. That's that's the the computer generated. Like, that's not, those aren't real people back there. Oh, I was like, look how look how they're clapping. They're not even their hands aren't even coming together. So that's not real. Yeah, but he's real. And I was like, I don't know. So I I Googled his name. I forgot his name now, but it said AI Artist. And I was like, Yeah, that's AI. Oh my God. So I've been listening to a computer. I was like, Yeah, she's like, but he got he has a whole album. I was like, Yeah, I guess that's what it is. Well, look up this person. So she had me look up like three or four other people that she'd been listening to, and literally all of them were AI artists. And so she was just disappointed. She was just like, Oh, I cannot believe I've been listening to that. And I was like, Well, look, if it makes you feel good and you like the song, then like the song. But I'm just telling you, it's not, it's not a real artist. I was like, maybe that's why they're not blocking it on YouTube when you play it at church or sing the songs or whatever. But yeah, they're not real artists. And she was just flabbergasted because she didn't know. She's a really older lady. She didn't know the difference. She still probably is confused on how I could tell. But I just I just can't get with it yet. Like maybe a few years down the line, I I I might go ahead and surrender. But for right now, I just don't. I'm not into it. Um, I I find myself, even if I'm scrolling through TikTok and I hear a song that I like, and I'm like, oh, this is really, a really good song. I have to go find that artist and make sure it's not an AI artist. And then when I go to their page, I have to look at what are they doing anything a normal person will do? I don't want to see them in the bright lit, you know, studio just sitting there. I don't want to see them on the floor singing. Like, I need to see like what do they do on a Tuesday? Are they going to get, you know, Dunkin' Donuts and whatever else. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to see that. And so um, I it's I I I have to. It's it's a thing now where I have to see. I I remember there's a song that I really like, and I was like, oh man, this sounds good. And I went to go look him up to make sure he was real. Come to find out he is uh Will uh Will Farrell's son is kind of an RB singer. Like when you think about Robin Thick, that's that's the kind of artist he is. Now he says don't compare him to Robin Thick because they're not the same. But they that first song has a very Robin Thick vibe to it, and I like it. But I was happy to see, like, oh, this is a real person. I know his dad. We all know who his father is. We know this is a real person. Okay. But I mean, overall, I just uh I don't know, it feels yucky to me. I'm just not there yet. And I'm happy that I have to be careful with the music that I find because lately I've been finding music on TikTok, and I'm like, okay, I need to go look up this artist on um YouTube music and I'll save it and listen to it. There's a few that I've listened to that I I saved, but I haven't gone and researched and see if they are real artists or if they're AI artists. But I'm happy now that, at least for the most part, I don't know if it's mandatory, but the ones that I have found, say AI generated or AI artist on it, and I think they're going to move to um tagging, putting that tag on artist on like Spotify and YouTube music and Apple Music. And I think some places aren't you you cannot put an AI song on on their streaming service. I forgot who that was, but they're gonna make it so it's like you cannot be a computer-generated anything and put music out on their streaming service. Um, I just think I'm not gonna say it's lazy. It's just it's kind of just cutting corners for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm I'm someone who used to write, right? And I can't sing, and I would it would be great to put my words to music and hear what that sounds like, but I don't think I would ever put it out and try to make money off of it. I mean, I I think it's kind of taking money away from songwriters. Songwriters already don't get paid a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? And um, for this lady who made the Zanaya Monet, she said she was a songwriter or she wrote poetry. Those were her words, but there are several people or whatever that just go in and say, make me a song that talks about XYZ and sounds like this and has a voice of this and this, and then it they put it out, and that completely takes away any create creativity when you're creating a piece of art. It's like if I go into uh chat GPT and I say, make me a painting of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, like then you're taking away like the artist. What good, what it is obsolete to have artists around painters, when you can just go to chat GPT and have them create something that you can print out or something like that. Like it's it's all very, it's weird. You know what I'm saying? When we used to watch the Justins back in the day, I don't think I ever thought about that. Like, I want the pill, like on fifth element. I want the pill where you put it in a microwave and it makes your chicken right away. Now it looked gross, but give me something I can work with. Help me prepare my dinner faster. Maybe I might go for that. Um, I'm I don't really trust the self-driving cars. Around here, we have Waymo's, and we I see on the news all the time where Waymo's are stuck or they're just driving in circles or they just stop somewhere. Um, several times uh Waymo has taken someone to the airport, and when the person got out of the car, knowing that they have stuff in the trunk, the Waymo just drives off. And when they contact customer service, they're like, Oh, well, you're gonna have to get a charge to bring, you know, you got to be charged for us to bring your stuff back. And the guy's like, Well, why am I getting charged when you knew I put stuff in the trunk and I hit the trunk button as I'm getting out of the car to get my stuff and you just drive off. I didn't, I didn't forget to get my luggage. Once I got out of the car, you took off. So why am I paying for you to come back? But it's it's so much that they still have yet to fix. But for now, I like I want to keep my music. I want to keep my music, my music. Like, I don't need no AI music. I just don't. Um, I'm just not ready for it. I'm still easing into it. I don't even really use AI for my episodes. And if I did, they would go so much smoother. I would have an intro, I would have an outro, I would have uh, you know, uh cover art, I would probably have chapters made and all this other stuff. And not that I'm super against it. Again, I'm just slow to to getting into it. So I mean, it's convenient when it's convenient, but as far as my music is concerned, I want regular real artists who have songwriters and producers that still have some kind of art form. I know, I know it's gonna go away. Like, I know, like time, as time goes on, you know what I'm saying? There's more people using manufactured beats, using uh the little plug-ins and stuff of manufactured beats and create their beats using that out instead of using live music back in back then, back in the day, back then, back in the day, you would have a whole orchestra in a in a studio. You've had piano, you've had guitar, you have all these live instruments that you're playing as you're laying down like vocal tracks. This is back in the day, and as technology increases, now you can record that and and duplicate it with different sounds. You know, the synthesizers came in in the 70s and the 80s and kind of changed the way music was was heard, but it also mixed in with technology. Now I can go from I don't have to have a real drum, I can have this and I hit this button and it sounds like a real drum. So I don't need a real drummer, I have a drum right here. I don't need someone playing the piano because I have a note right here that I can use instead of you know having someone actually play the piano. I don't, I don't need strings because I can hit this button right here, and now everything that I touch sounds like I'm playing a violin. And so I I think it's just a progression of how technology has changed music, and now we're in the point where it's it's artificial intelligence that is learning from listening, or you know, they're they're being fed from different people as they're entering. This is what this sounds like, this is what Beyonce sounds like, this is what this beat sounds like, this is what classical music sounds like, this is what RB sounds like, this is what rappers sound like right now, and this is what they look like. And you feed it and it starts producing this stuff. So I don't know, 10, 20 years, are we just strictly gonna be AI artists? And it's gonna be as common as anything else, just like it's not it's not foreign to us now to not have a live band in studios, you know what I'm saying? So is that going to morph into you know something that's just standard? You go from eight-track to streaming, you know what I'm saying? Like eight-tracks, CDs, tapes are obsolete now that we've gotten technology. Now it's just everything is in in your pocket on your phone. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. I don't know how I feel about uh where we're going musically. Um because I still want to keep some stuff. There's just like how some of the actors now are like you don't have permission to use my likeness to like duplicate an AI version of me and and go make your movies and it's not even me, it's somebody else, and I'm not even getting a portion of what what you're getting, you know what I'm saying? And writing scripts and it's it's just a whole thing that is kind of for me is kind of scary. I don't know, it's just it's more stuff of the unknown that it just makes me uneasy. So I'm I'm just happy to listen to my jasmine Sullivan's, my Brandy's, um, you know, my my regular my music that I know is from real artists and leave all that other stuff alone uh until I don't have a choice. You know what I'm saying? So that is all I have. I just want to chit-chat with with y'all about this AI music. I wonder how you know you guys feel about it. Feel free to to leave comments or whatever on how you feel about AI music, and as always, we're gonna leave with a vibe of the week. Now, this song is from an artist that is real. It is someone I mentioned earlier, Victoria Monet. And she actually did a remake, and normally I do not like people doing remakes of Sade because Sade is the one and only, and just people don't do her songs justice. But I really felt like I liked this new take on this song, and it has to be something for me to like it because I was ready to hate it as much as I love Victoria Monet. I was ready to hate it because I'm like, you don't mess with her song, but she did an amazing job to me with it, the way they kind of mixed it in with some other stuff. If you listen, you'll hear that. But um, we're gonna listen to um Victoria Monet Love is stronger than pride.

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But I am going to stop living I'll go ahead But I can't let you I'll go ahead and try I still really love you Love it I'll go with a drop I still really with the love you'll put in That I am gonna stop living I won't for take it all good afternoon But I can't pay to Although I have a try All right alright that brings us to the end of the show So again as always y'all can catch me on Twitter at J'sQuick3 Pod you can catch me on Instagram and TikTok at J Spot Network almost says it's J's Quick3 J Spot Network on Twitter and TikTok.

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You can also catch me on YouTube at J Spot Network and y'all check out my Patreon, patreon.com slash J Spot Network. That is where you find all my music stuff. I have videos there, I do album reviews. I'm on this, I'm doing this series right now called Um Replay Yay or Nay, where I take albums that from back in the day that I really loved and see if I still feel the same about them. Um we have Jay Z, we have Paramour, we have Brandy. Um, there's a lot of artists on there. Go check that out if you if you like music. Um, also I put my podcast episodes on there. Become a member. It's free. Free or you can pay a dollar. Come on. Go to patreon.com slash J Spot Network and go ahead and become a member. Also, have all this information in the show notes. So without further ado, I am out of here. Let's go out with this song. By the way, this is one of my favorite Sade songs of all time, and I love what um Victoria Monet did with it. So let's go out with it. Peace out.