TOQ-Back: Ep 25

The cast talks the return to Plutopolis, denial, and siblings

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to our talk back. Hello.

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Talk back.

SPEAKER_05 0:03

Welcome. Now that it's just us.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Now that it's just us. Now that it's just us.

SPEAKER_05 0:08

Is that better?

SPEAKER_00 0:09

I put my Janice glasses on. You did. I've transitioned into because I feel like it's even thematic.

SPEAKER_04 0:16

Now you're playing Shane.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

God, you're good looking.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Yeah, now I'm playing Shane. Shut up. What? Shut up. Everyone's thinking it. No, they're not. They can't even see me. Yes, they can if they pay five dollars.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Well, uh, so how did you guys feel about today's episode?

SPEAKER_06 0:32

It was fun.

SPEAKER_04 0:33

Wow. I would text it in our um No Spencer DD chat that the fuck. You know this exists. I know it exists.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I don't like to think of when it's you encouraged it. I encouraged it for planning. Every time I hear it was used for not planning, I'm like, oh it is planning.

SPEAKER_05 0:48

All I said was it for pleasure.

SPEAKER_04 0:50

We only used it for planning. All I said was that I was nervous to go to Plutopolis.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:55

Because I knew some shit was gonna go down. Yeah, we could not let it spend.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

And nothing was bad. Nothing was bad. Nothing was bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:01

Oh my gosh. I don't uh truly, I don't know why that maybe because I'm already angry today, but like that was so enraging. I like like because at first I was like, oh, I know that he's just that's what gaslighting is. But I I knew that you were going through this thing of like, I can't think about how bad it is, but it was just like this. Yeah. With like hearing how bad it was, and then you weren't actually saying anything like specific. It was just like, oh, it's that damn had to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

We got into the specific. I Janice told you exactly what was going on with the plague.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

And then we were so not true. You are gaslighting me. We were standing on the hill looking at the plague consume the city. Janice puts a plague mask on and says you guys are fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

Talk about a yeah, I was saying, talk about a bad host. And Shane such a good host.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

That's what that's what it was, as you were being a bad host.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

He's getting it out now.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

That's like you inviting someone over and there's like garbage literally everywhere. Janice was just doing a bit.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

The It's not funny, Janice.

SPEAKER_03 2:08

It's not funny, Janice. But not because we wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

It was also so funny after last episode, every bit being about how everyone was in denial about different things. Yes. And then this episode, it's like, what the fuck? Why aren't you accepting reality?

SPEAKER_05 2:22

It's right in our face. We all see it. Yeah, it was just me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Everyone it felt like was projecting their own shit. I mean, Janice was doing it. Sure. But like everyone being like, Why aren't you handling your issues? was really fun, I thought. Yes. Like dramatically.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

It's it's funny because usually Janice is the one handling his issues, and this is like the first time he's really gotten to be the guy that's like totally in denial and not doing it.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Well, it's also funny because I feel like this is the the issue that is the most like we can see it happen. I see the the plague cloud in front of it.

SPEAKER_05 2:56

Stop it. I also feel like it's the first time that it like it affects us. Like it's it's not like your denial about you your relationship with whatever or like something that only affects you. It's like the denial about the situation that we're all dealing with right now that I feel like maybe was and that puts everyone in danger of the sports. Yeah, I was really worried about Patch getting sick. Me too.

SPEAKER_04 3:16

I was like, how do we I'm not gonna walk into that? Yeah, that's what I that's why I was scared. I was like, we're going to a plague town. Are we all gonna get like sick? That's why I kept asking about masks.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

It's all it but it's totally different than any threat that we've faced yet, right? Like where you walk into Ariac and you're like, uh we're gonna end up in that fucking labyrinth, right? Like, or we uh walk into Sirens Perch and it is pirates.

SPEAKER_04 3:43

Pirates. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:43

We walk into that, like the the little creepy theater with the obvious reducer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then this one is like, oh, we see what's wrong with that. Like we don't know.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

And also Spencer didn't give us any way to protect ourselves. Like, I was fully walking, like expecting this to like be the resistance, and and like, okay, well, like if you you know, charm yourself with this, the like you're you're safer, or you know what I mean? Like I was I was expecting to hear some sort of the way that they were dealing with it that would help us, but then it was like, no.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Like, some of us turn into trees, you know.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

That it was like, okay, so we're just walking into this, and like I don't know if it's how you like the idea of the air swirling with spores, yeah, is so horrible. Yeah, it's that that it's like there's no way to block it. Like I'm I'm I was like literally feeling them hit the back of my throat. Um, like I mean it's also like you know, they're particles, like, and you can't stop them.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Watching you throughout this episode, it's horrible. Like you were viscerally reacting to it. Yes. And like I didn't want to make this reference because it's also like incredibly tragic. But like the vibe I got was walking into Chernobyl, you know?

SPEAKER_05 4:54

Like I was watching that, and that's what's because Chernobyl, the radiation is invisible. You can't you don't feel in the radiation hit the back of your throat. That's that yeah, you're so that's what I feel like is so like they're horribly pervasive and there's no way to defend yourself. What the fuck, Spencer?

SPEAKER_01 5:10

I mean, well, no, you all you all are a little resistant, and like it is And so that made me breathe.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Yeah, if you guys do get it, which is a possibility, it's like multiple saving throws, you have a little bit of resistance, and the ultimately, if you're setting out to cure this plague, and if you catch the plague, all of these things, like all of these death effects, take place over X number of days. Yeah, yeah, so that you have time to solve the plague. Like if you get it. Like you won't be hopefully no one dies.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

I will say we're gonna get a herd immunity.

SPEAKER_05 5:44

I'm okay with no one dying. It's just the fact that uh I it it fit it felt like we're obviously going to get it if we walk into here.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

I mean, for me, like the thing with this is like, you know, not to be political, but we recently went through a plague. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

Um those of you listening in 2040, yeah. Uh um guess her to COVID.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

I mean, yeah, that's what it felt like. It was your grandparents about it. Because, you know, Chloe the player doesn't know what the stakes are actually like of like going into a labyrinth or like fighting a pirate or whatever. Yes. But I know that yes, if I walk into a plague-ridden place, I'm gonna get really sick and die. Yeah. Um, so if the threat felt a lot more real. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

And then we're gonna have to fight people.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

We're gonna have to fight people. And so for Janice to be like, it's fine. For the health care, I was gonna say this. I was like, for a healthcare not being very returned. Nobody really has to mask up was so that's what we're doing, is we're going into like some Republican pod.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

No, it's more of like, you know, it's I we didn't want to get into it, but it's like, what does the research actually show? And the research shows that masking up does not help you from a magically attacking plague.

SPEAKER_05 6:48

That's that that is like I get like I am okay with that, but it's that doesn't mean everything's fine. That means everything is worse.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Well, it's also one of those things where it's like the plague it's it's less that the plague is contagious person to person, like it's more of like a plague bringer and like the life of it that's infecting people, yeah, rather than like Yeah, yeah, like Cersei's not gonna feel better too.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

But I I think that the I'm really happy that you made the choice to at the end of the episode be like fine, yes, it's bad.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

I was also looking for that to end the episode. I was like, we can't end the episode with Janice still denying it.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Like yeah, because I do think it it it paints this next arc that we're going on with you know, you don't you Janice doesn't want to admit that this is very scary, you know? Like and um attack that we're dying.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

I think the denial or the minimization of it was more on like, yeah, we can handle this. This is this is great, this is fine.

SPEAKER_05 7:52

Are you denying your denial right now?

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Yeah. No, I think I I think I'm I think I'm um diverting it from being denial to minimiz minimalization.

SPEAKER_06 8:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

Yeah. Like something that we can totally handle, like and a projected confidence of it. Yeah, I don't think.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

He's using flattery to deflect. Yeah. I mean, Patch has no idea how we're even gonna where to start. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

Well, now that I feel like we can exist in that space, then I'm like, either we get it or we don't get it. Like, I thought as soon as we walk in, we will be infected of it because we'll have breathed in the spores. That's what I thought. Because we can't stop that from happening. Yeah. So we're all just gonna walk in and die. Now that that's not the case, we're good.

SPEAKER_06 8:37

Sorry, I could have done a better job of setting that up for you.

SPEAKER_05 8:39

It was good for us to be.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

I also knew that we did it. Walk in and die.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

My intention is definitely not you guys catch disease and die. Like that. We catch a real disease.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

We get tuberculosis. I refuse to think that that would have that was a dumb thing to think, though.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

No, no, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Well, I thought it'd be fun if I brought this little vial of tuberculosis into the I'm kidding, into the talk back.

SPEAKER_05 9:01

It's not funny.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Shatter it.

SPEAKER_05 9:03

He's got a T-bomb.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Um so you guys met Janice's family.

SPEAKER_05 9:12

Oh, yes. And a whole council of cool elders. Yes. Yeah. That was really cool. I loved those characters.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Really like Ebenezer Bones.

SPEAKER_05 9:20

Love Ebenezer Bones.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I'm sorry for throwing a whole council at you. That's okay.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

Did you throw that at him?

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Well, I threw a couple. Like the original my original like pitch was that there was for each of the magic schools and for the non-magic people, like there'd be a council for each of those people. So like Arcana, Druidic, and uh uh clerics, and then just like the normies. And then Spencer kind of built it out into the military and the merchant, and like the druids or district is technically the suburbs, like it really built it out a lot more. And the and the noble district added as well. So he he grew it, he added more nobles to himself.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Is there one representative per slice of the pizza? Is that the thing?

SPEAKER_00 10:00

It's one per slice of pizza plus the suburbs. So Janice's mom is the crust. Janice's mom is the crust.

SPEAKER_05 10:08

We're saying Pittsburgh, but it's also Perry with the arrondissement. Mmm. Je suis perfection.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

Jamais. Je suis là, j'ai back to that one.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Um I really liked meeting Janice's mom. Oh, and I thought that that was very fun. And I uh I made the decision to be like like try to almost compete with Janice a little bit over like his mom's affection of being like, and then at the very end being like, my mom's squeeze Juliana, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Yeah, I was like dropping like, well, like clearly Rex and Lucy for whatever reason were very jealous of Janice's mom. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

I for whatever reason, what are you talking about? I feel like Lucy and Rex have the most mommy issues. Okay, that's true. They have the most mommy issues.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

They are jealous that you have a mom.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Yeah, I that she's so great and alive.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Which is, yeah, let me clarify justified mommy issues.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Also, I didn't, I will say I Lucy had a figure who was like a mom to her, but didn't let her call her mom.

SPEAKER_04 11:22

And abandon her every week. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

I also threw Lucy into that. Like I didn't like Lucy didn't volunteer that information at the end. Like that was Rex. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:33

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

That was Rex being like, Yeah. And you were like, Oh, my mom's name is, you know, Eleanor. Yeah, Elena. Elena.

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Yeah. I said no because I think in that moment Lucy was realizing how much like that she was thinking, oh, I didn't have a mom. Like Clothis is not what that was. And so I think it came more not from a I don't want these people to know who my mom was. It was more of a no, I don't have a mom.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 11:58

Um, because it yeah, she was kind of being um confronted with Janice's mom.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Yeah. I I think it's I mean, Spencer, you kind of gave us the note a little bit at the beginning to be like, hey, like, you know, give a little bit of your like deal. Deal.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

I think we did a good job of that.

SPEAKER_03 12:14

And I was like, Oh, I come from what's Rex's.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

No, you did, but you were actively doing that. There was a point where like, aren't you worried because a few weeks ago you left your hometown and you uh were traveling for a long time and then you came here and she worried about what candle?

SPEAKER_01 12:31

That's just how Lucy talks.

SPEAKER_06 12:33

That's that's just me.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Well, it is. I mean, occasionally when we're introducing our characters, Sarah will just give Lucy's whole back.

SPEAKER_04 12:40

She's medium size, so she's like, I should do that next week just in case anyone forgot. Yeah, just in case. Yeah, I will say with uh uh Janus' mom, Patch, you know, usually doesn't objectify anyone. I was just trying to play up to the fact that she's so beautiful. Yes. Even Patch had to say something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

The way that you described her was like shit. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_04 13:01

You started pictures of her hair and I tried to do it. I was picturing like Jennifer Coll Con Connolly.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Yeah. Oh my god. Yes. And also a little bit um From Labyrinth. Get in here. Who am I thinking of?

SPEAKER_05 13:13

I I think we're thinking of the same thing. We're a similar thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Beautiful children, her name is a beautiful adult. Um Bridesmaids by Melissa McCarthy?

SPEAKER_04 13:22

What? What name did you say?

SPEAKER_00 13:24

I said Bridesmaids and Spy, not Melissa McCarthy, but the other person's Rose Bird. I love Rose Bird.

SPEAKER_04 13:30

Golden Glow winner, Rose Byrne.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

Rose Burn lives in Brooklyn. Does she? And married to a fucking hunk. Uh, what's his name?

SPEAKER_05 13:39

Oh, he was buying snakes the other day.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

Was he?

SPEAKER_04 13:42

Yes. Yes, I know you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Are they actually my parents? I don't understand. Oh my god. Actually, Janice's parents. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

I can't believe I've forgotten the name of Rose Burton's husband because I love him so much.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

I'm not thinking of Rose Burton, though. I was thinking of like um I want to say the mom.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Bobby Canavale.

SPEAKER_05 13:59

Yes, Bobby Canavale.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

Bobby Canavale.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Oh, they're married?

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah. I did know that, and I totally forgot.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

He's a star. Keddy and I saw them uh do uh the play Medea.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Medea. Medea.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Medea Greek. Greek play. Uh bam. And that was really cool. It was just them two.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

That's sick. That's awesome. That is a challenging play to take on as a married couple, I bet.

SPEAKER_03 14:22

Yeah, they were fighting.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

I saw Bobby in what was that song? The last song hunt?

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Uh Here We Are. Here we are. Very good.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Very fun. Anytime I see him in a movie. Anytime I see him in a show or a movie, I'm like, I'm like, that's my guy.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

Y'all see the station agent?

SPEAKER_03 14:39

No.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

It's a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Well.

SPEAKER_04 14:40

One of Peter Dinklage's first projects.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Oh. Well, I saw him in uh Sierra Now.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

I saw him on the streets in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

I love that adaptation.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

I know you didn't. You told me that.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Something about the the ne the national song.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Like like I know you don't like you're not a fan.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

No, I didn't care. Sorry. I went with my buddy Dave. He got tickets.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

I just went.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

You also played dad really well. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You did.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

You guys don't want to talk about random shit.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I I um Midas. All I had in there for him was that his voice had to be higher than your mom's, and that he had to, as you approached, fall off the ladder and go, oh crap!

SPEAKER_05 15:21

Yes. I really liked that.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

That was fun. Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

It also took you a long time to run over that. You were standing there for all crap.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

I just wanted to have a I just wanted to have that true um drop dead gorgeous oh crap moment with Spencer. We were both oh crap.

SPEAKER_04 15:37

Oh crap.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Oh crap.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

Oh crap. I do fully picture like you know the gorgeous mom and then the little nerdy dad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

I was a little disappointed that he didn't have an Irish accent based on conversations we had last week.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

If I gave him an Irish accent, my Irish accent, as we know from my New Zealand accent, it would be an i impossible.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Oh, Jonas. You would have had it for the voice.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Listen, I know, I know, I'm aware of strengths and weaknesses. That is not my strongest.

SPEAKER_05 16:11

It's hard to keep them up. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I think you could do a you could do great accents.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 16:17

Uh, but I feel like with everyone, it's like it's difficult to keep it going.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah. But uh I'm glad you guys like Janice's parents. I was like, I feel like after having so many fucked up families, it's good to have, you know, just like a normal. Normal-ish nuclear.

SPEAKER_05 16:37

I really liked uh what did you say? Lucidae, my grandmother could have been named that or something. Like that was so funny.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

That's just a dad gist.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

I was gonna say uh Matt really enjoyed uh or Rex, but mostly Matt, I think, in the reality, really enjoyed the dadness of Midas.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Like Rex was bought into Midas immediately.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Yeah, I mean he's gonna turn my belt gold. Yeah. Fucking sick. Why not?

SPEAKER_04 17:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

And what do you guys think of the council members?

SPEAKER_04 17:06

I thought about doing like an insight check, but Patch isn't very insightful. And that's fair.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

This is yeah, I don't think he was too early in the room.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

I'm suspicious of them. I'm suspicious, of course, of the new one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Yes, that is my new one.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Orange robes are always suspicious.

SPEAKER_05 17:21

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

My fantasy. My um my theory, and it comes from many, many reasons, but like I think it is the new person is is somehow involved in this because uh they're super wealthy. It seems like the plague is only affecting the not wealthy areas, feels very much like a cleansing of the like non nobles, and also throwing a party that's like the plague isn't happening. Party is like very much, I feel like, ivory tower bullshit.

SPEAKER_05 17:59

Well, is it is it not affecting the noble area?

SPEAKER_01 18:02

It it is affecting them. Like she she said that the her predecessor, at the very least, um but it it does seem to be affecting it. The uh mercantile district they transformed into the like infected district where people who are infected the quarantine zone. The quarantine zone. Um so it's like the lower class areas are obviously hit harder, but um it it it doesn't seem to be in a way that's like the rich are protected, you know, like yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:35

I'm not saying you're wrong. I clarified that for myself.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Historically, I have I I've been right every time.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

No, that that's not no. I wonder if it comes came from the arcanery because it's you know, arcane obviously an arcane disease of some sort, and we know that Janice's sister worked there.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

The Wuhan.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

I think that's something that I've been worried about, is it's like having a plague-focused arc where like obviously for there to be like dramatic like for there to be characters, there does have to be some element of it where there are people who are like, you know, involved in some way. And it's like I don't want to coming out of a time period where like the right wing has been so like like pandemic, you know, like it's it's a weird thing to tread where trying to do something in fiction without drawing parallels to that when that is like a yeah, something on our mind.

SPEAKER_05 19:38

I think you're doing a great job of not mapping it onto that.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

That's why I was like, no face masks, no face masks, we don't need it.

SPEAKER_05 19:43

No, but also like in the way that it moves differently, or like the way that like it's like you're not following the steps of the pan of our pandemic, or you're not like treating it, you're not using the language that people use. So to me, it's it like maybe out like in one sentence it kind of felt that way. And then I feel like we've quickly gone. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yeah, and I think that us as players can, and like mostly me, not make jokes that are referential to it, like about like vaccines or the jab or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Like a little bit of happens, it happens, it's fun. I think I think the main thing is just like in the storytelling. I don't want it to be like, oh, we made a weird COVID allegory that sounds right wing. Like yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:26

Or or that sounds like we're making light of. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:29

We're just recognizing the parts that are familiar.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Because we're people who live through that. Yes, but also COVID was never a giant magical swarming dragon in the world. Exactly. COVID wasn't turning people into the U it wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

That's what the Moderna vaccine let me see.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

The main stream media wants. All I got is the modello vaccine.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's roll. Let's roll.

SPEAKER_05 20:57

Let's roll. Let's roll. Autobots?

SPEAKER_06 20:59

Let's roll out. Let's roll out. Any other orders?

SPEAKER_05 21:02

Wait, yes, I was gonna say, uh, you should did you say your theory?

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Yeah, my theory is just that it is like something definitely coming from like a wizard, or maybe there's like a break in the Arcana field or whatever, like in Chaosy. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

Did you say uh did you say that the Temple of Erebos, god of death, has been like is is like the source of it, or like is overrun. It's been like overrun with it. So the priests there who are have not been heard from God. Nobody can go there, you go there, you can't. And like that's that's common kind of like we know Erebos is involved in this somehow because of what the guy who's the plague spreader or whatever has been.

SPEAKER_04 21:49

I mean, that's part of my theory is that maybe the death priests are trying to fight it as well because it's not like it's a rogue death priest who is I don't even think I feel like he might be like a Red herring. Like I've my theory is that we're gonna meet whoever's walking around and he's like, yes, I'm trying to stop this. What's up?

SPEAKER_00 22:06

I'm woke. He's actually following the plague. Like he's always seen where people get infected because he's like chasing it and trying to get it.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Or the plague is following him.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Or the plague's following him. I don't think that Erebos is responsible for this plague.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

But we also know And ironically, Pfizer would be an awesome name for this guy.

SPEAKER_05 22:25

The Grand Pfizer.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

What did we just say, Moran? What's your theory?

SPEAKER_05 22:30

Yeah. Well, um, I I like the idea now of like an evil wizard that like as another character that we haven't met yet. That was like, oh, that's interesting. But my initial thought throughout the episode, um, and this could be because I'm biased, that it was like the gods fighting and that it's like this um like uh I guess symptom or like bleeding over onto the material. Yeah, yeah, that they're fighting over the powers over the mortals, or they're fighting over like death versus life versus trickery, and like it's kind of spilling out on and then affecting mortals. Um, but it's really just like their own chaos and their own not caring about people that's causing it.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

I think that makes a lot of sense based on like what Farica had said to Janice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

It reminds me of there's a video game, an indie video game called Home Safety Hotline, where you're kind of playing as like, you know, you're a a phone operator and you get calls of things that are happening to people in their homes and you have to figure out what's happening to them. But part the part of the the conceit is is that everything is normal, but fee and natural druidic elements are starting to creep into homes and stuff. So if something that happens is like the Faye flu, which like turns you pink, and like you you die from it, you die from the Faye flu. But that's what I was thinking is so that makes sense too. It could be a god or it could be like a fee thing. Yeah. Um, so some like I think there is something to, you know, some sort of trickery going on just because of what it does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

I almost felt like the the urge to like this will make Lucy want to talk to Clothus, of like, okay, fine. If like this is the gods, like fucking up, then like okay, come talk to me and tell me what's you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that that gives her reason to talk to her more directly than like asking her what wanting to get personal kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

I would push her into that. Yes. I also loved you giving out quests. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

So you guys have a ton of side quests.

SPEAKER_05 24:25

No, I think yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

So part of I I talked to you guys before where I was like, yeah, this arc is more like in investigative in a way, but also like you guys kind of driving what you're doing. Yeah. And part of that is I was like, I'll give you 20 things you can do. Yes. Yeah. And they will all lead, all roads lead to uh Rome.

SPEAKER_05 24:43

Yeah. The fuzzy dick tower. Who talked about? Um Do you know what I was thinking when I froze? I was gonna ask Dick, I was gonna ask Dick. I was gonna ask Patch if that's what his dick looked like.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

I was certain that's what you were gonna ask. Yeah. Like I remember that moment and being like, no, dude.

SPEAKER_04 25:06

And then I was like, oh no, oh no, oh no, no, no. I think his hair, I think he starts getting hairier like at his body. You don't have to answer that question. I think he gets hairier at his belly button, but he gets goat fur like at his where his legs connect. Goat.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

And um thick bush. So he does need to wear pants.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

He's wearing pants.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Pants are not optional for Patch.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

I I I wanted Oh, you're gonna have to start again. You're gonna have to start again.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

That's funny. So Patch having a huge dick is funny. I mean, the Patch.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Patch laying it down. So then you guys also now have seen uh an infected Cersei.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

Yeah, what a great well, to be fair, we've never met her before, so she might just look like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

She might just look I thought about trying to do a fake out where it's like a later reveal that she's sick and it just looks like she's goth and has gray makeup.

SPEAKER_05 26:06

That's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

But I was like, I was like, they would immediately see through that. Like immediately.

SPEAKER_05 26:11

I I think it is just such a satisfying like cliffhanger end. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

It does put um a I guess uh uh a time limit on it where we previously had no time limit where it was just like, oh, we're just gonna be here and we're uh we're gonna figure it out. But now there is like that. And obviously she had to have been infected or you know, stricken by the plague in the past week because previously she had seen your parents and hadn't been and so we've got a couple days.

SPEAKER_05 26:48

And is she hanging out with Farrica?

SPEAKER_00 26:50

We don't know. That's the other thing is that she went goth. And so it's like, is she gonna goth? Why is she gone goth? Most gods well, I guess Thassa has two oracles. They have a because Thassa, you said, has a land oracle and a sea oracle. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

So Farrica could have a so Farica could have a healing oracle and a death oracle. That's cool. Or Spencer's write that down. That's a good idea. My joke is that But Janice is already the duality. He already has to heal in her.

SPEAKER_03 27:19

Cersei is just another clothest person.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

You're a champion of clothes too? Well, what if she's like not with Verica, but with the death god with the cards? I thought about that as well. Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Many different things that could be the case.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

But why would they just say why would they want the box? What's in the box? What's in the box? What's in the box?

SPEAKER_05 27:43

Wait, so remind me last time what we saw with the vision about the box.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

So Janice, um, this is when Janice did ambrosia.

SPEAKER_05 27:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Um, and so he woke up in a room that was untidied and dusty and a little bit fallen apart, and then he saw a snake and he followed it. And then there was he walked into a room that was kind of like covered in snakes on all sides, and in the center of it was Cersei, and she was holding a plain wooden box, and then she opened her mouth and histos came out of her mouth.

SPEAKER_05 28:15

Yes. Why don't you ask histos? And then what he's been doing there. But then you also saw Death walking around looking for your sister in a box. So not for my sister, but a priest order.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

Yeah, we all saw that when we were looking in the different videos.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

That wasn't a vision, that was surveillance from um.

SPEAKER_05 28:35

And what did we what did we see again?

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Diamachus. Diamachus showed the death priest walk into a bar, put down a photo of, or photo or drawing, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

A drawing of a square.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

A drawing of a square. Um, of the plain box from Janice's vision. So, like you all saw what the box looks like, but Janice was like, that's the box from the vision that my sister was holding.

SPEAKER_04 28:55

Yeah, and the death priest was a really good artist. And so we could tell right away.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yeah, and he tucked his hair behind his ears.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

Yeah. The death priest. Oh no, this is nothing. This this intricate eye I drew, don't worry about it. And then I and it's just my planner.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

And I think everyone in the bar got infected immediately, potentially.

SPEAKER_04 29:12

They all ran and screamed.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Yeah, after he left, um the plague swarmed in after him.

SPEAKER_05 29:18

That's that it could be then the way to like the death priest is trying to find the box because that's the only way the disease was that can contain the disease. Yeah. And so the death priest is trying to get it back in the box. Yeah, if it's an indoors box.

SPEAKER_03 29:31

Really good twist.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Um, so we've got we're recording it in four days. The first thing we're gonna have to ask is what's what's going on with this box?

SPEAKER_01 29:40

What's in the box?

SPEAKER_04 29:41

Cersei, show us your box.

SPEAKER_03 29:43

Don't get that. Cersei, can I see your box? Can I have a different extra?

SPEAKER_04 29:47

Cersei.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

Cersei, I've heard you have to.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

Every time it's Cersei, I just it's me. Show me your box.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Cersei, I've heard it's pretty plain, but that's okay. You know, you know for a fact that's not what Cersei's dad sounds like.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

Everyone's after your box, Cersei. I I like how I think to me it always sounds like this. But then maybe tell people it sounds like their dad.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

Who haven't heard the movie?

SPEAKER_01 30:09

They always just hear it as if that's why. Yeah, I whenever I still keep I have in my back pocket that one day you're going to meet Martin Shorhop's dad, and he's going to go, hey, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 30:21

Yeah, I love it. My Martin, my Marty Scorsese impression.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Far after you've forgotten who the fuck Martin Shorhop is. Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

We'll never forget who Martin Shorhop is.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

What about Martin Shorhop?

SPEAKER_01 30:33

That's the Shorhop. That's the one thing that we are missing so far from Plutopolis is Lucy inventing a person. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 30:41

Well, she didn't invent Shelby last episode.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

That's true, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 30:45

Yeah, but I guess I'm I'm over.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

You wouldn't know anyone here.

SPEAKER_05 30:50

That's what you think. She wouldn't have known.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

That's what you think.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Um where and when and how.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

I wouldn't have she didn't know Cleveland before she was.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

I don't even remember how Cleveland you named Cleveland.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

I think someone said like a real fantasy name. No. And then you said it was like a real name that was like blah blah blah blah blah blah. And you were like, What about Clevenon Nureak? Because it sounded the same.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

Uh okay, I trust your editing ear. I feel like I thought Spencer was like, their name is, and then paused, and then I said it.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

But no, I think you were just like, I know a guy here named Clevelandon Nuraic. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

And I was like, okay. No, no, I have zero memory of that, but I believe it.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Um I I could also be wrong.

SPEAKER_05 31:34

People move around. They're gonna bring someone that comes through Siren's Perch.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 31:38

No one's no one's gonna be able to do that. Give us a name.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Give us a name, sir. Um give us a name now. No, it has to be in the episode because it can't be.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Okay, I just need a practice. I need to do it.

SPEAKER_05 31:45

Merley has no parents. We have You already had Merley chrysanthenin. Yeah, I know, but she got parents.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

That's true. Maybe they maybe Merley lives in.

SPEAKER_04 31:55

Is Merley gonna be at the party?

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Okay, but canonically in my head, in my uh in my one shot, I'm planning, Merley lives in Narcisum.

SPEAKER_05 32:03

So Narcisum. That's where Oh, now Narcisum.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

That's um that's where the real housewives are, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Yeah, that's where the real housewives are.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

Is that in New Jersey?

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Uh it is it's in it's in New Jersey. It's narcisum, but it's New Jersey. It's on the western coast of uh Plutop, of uh elsewhere.

SPEAKER_05 32:22

That's another on our oh Spencer, let me create it.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Matt's Matt's it's a it's a place that Matt is creating for a one-shot that you're finding.

SPEAKER_05 32:30

Okay, for our Real Housewives of Narciso. Can you send me a source material to watch so that I have some background information for that?

SPEAKER_03 32:39

It's almost better if you have Narcisweshes. Can I be any therminess?

SPEAKER_04 32:41

I've been wanting to I've never seen Real Housewives, but I've been wanting to sit down and watch it just so I can make fun of it and talk about it. And I would do that with you if you wanted to. That would be fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Yeah. There's um I you know, any of them will be good um for you to watch. People the the real housewife of Salt Lake City is kind of like not, it's very entertaining, but it's also like not a true one, you know. I wouldn't know that. But either way, I would say not real. Atlanta.

SPEAKER_05 33:11

They don't drink because they the other thing. No, they do.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

They're all fake Mormons. They don't they they drink and do all that sort of stuff. But there it is, I don't think they're like really like were friends at the beginning, which is kind of like one of the things. Yeah. But just to say, I don't think you really need to do it otherwise. You mean watch like an episode of one of them randomly and you'll get the vibe.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

I know all the memes from Real First Wise.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:36

That's my opinion. Bitches is mad.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

But I do, I I am gonna do this at one day, and my hope was that you would play Merley Chrysanthen. Uh in the future. But we it's it's completely op op to you.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

We'll see, we'll see. Well, on that note, oh, I did want to show you guys. Um, so I told Chloe, because Chloe has also seen stuff about this game, Pathologic. Yeah. That the vibes would be very based on pathologic. And this is the spore cloud from that game.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

It's scary. You're walking down the street and just run at you. And like the music is like, there's I mean, there's not music. It's just like you know that if and like the game does it so well, like if that touches you, you're kind of fucked. Yeah. Like, and they literally like the spore cloud literally like comes around corners and like rushes you. Okay. And you have to, you know, you can't really run in the game, so you have to be like, uh, yeah. So that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 34:29

That the spore cloud is like, I was thinking it was like fog. Where it was, it had just like descended on the entire scene.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

So there is like a general, like hazy spore cloud, but then there also are these like more specific concentrated.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Like this, like the starling clusters, yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yes, yeah, like the flocks, like you said. Like the it's like a flock of spores. Okay. Um, I'm so excited for uh this which what what so what do you guys think you're gonna do first? Uh, and then we'll end it.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

I was gonna ask two.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

I was gonna go like do some shopping.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

Um, wouldn't I check out the Mercantile district?

SPEAKER_04 35:03

I want to find the closest temple.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

First, we gotta freak out at Cersei. Yes. Um, then you know, Farrica has us pointed towards the warehouse. Um we could try and hunt down the priest.

SPEAKER_04 35:16

Uh we had to go to the death temple.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

But I think the death temple, well and we have to capture a Pokemon.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Yeah, capture the plague. But we can do that whenever we run into the clouds.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

I think we have to Oh, Pat should look at that crystal to see how it works.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Yeah. It's t well, it's tough because we also know that the priest is maybe looking for uh Cersei unless she lets us take the box.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

Assuming she still has it. That's in the vax. That's in the vax. Um but I don't know, Farrica was like warehouse, but like the priest was like, hey, our temple is overrun.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

It's crazy she didn't know where the house was either.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah, and where is it?

SPEAKER_05 35:58

Yeah, I think I might say uh temple. I think temple is a good start. And then warehouse. Yeah. Just because I would like to get more of a means to destroy the plague before we go to the source, then going to the source without the means with which to destroy. We definitely need to gather more evidence.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

And we did do information. We did do temple first in Arc One.

unknown 36:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

We should we have a precedent for it.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

You also like um the the the warehouse is where the plague started. It doesn't necessarily mean it's the source. Like the current, like, you're not gonna like necessarily go in and like there's a hundred flocks, you know, swarming around.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

Um that's gonna be the that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

It's gonna be the that's gonna be in the fuzzy deck. It's gonna be the yeah, it's gonna be in the fuzzy deck.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Well, that well, that's to to that point. It seems like the priests or the temple of Erebos is a really bad place, and like going to the warehouse where it started might be the place with the like it might actually be like the reverse of what you said.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Yes, I will say in terms of difficulty, like, don't feel like you have to worry about like oh, like we have to level up before we go here. Like, this is scale to us. Oh, I'm just trying to logic it in my head.

SPEAKER_05 37:10

39 hit points. Yeah, I am not with it. A little bit of behind the scenes that's literally double.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

I still have 39 hit points.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

We realized we were doing Sarah's health wrong or Lucy's health wrong.

SPEAKER_04 37:20

It's like she died every five episodes.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

We've we've corrected that, which I that makes me feel a lot better because when I blew her up last episode, I was like, I didn't deal that much. I mean, it's a lot of damage, but not that much. How does she have so low?

SPEAKER_05 37:31

And so we looked at it and it was like I was at like 16, which is maybe not as many. You should have more than that. Or no, you had 22. 22 total for a level five sorcerer. And should be a little bit higher than that.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

We we do home rules where it's like you can't have below your average what the average would be. Yeah. And the average was 35. So it was low. But we are we're through it. And now Lucy's never gonna die.

SPEAKER_05 37:55

Yeah, so I can run into any burning building, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Please be careful.

SPEAKER_05 37:59

We can't wait to see.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

I think I'm almost uh of the mind of like, let's talk to Cersei and let's do the closest thing. Like if the closest thing is the closest thing. Okay. Sorry, I misspoke. The closest thing. I'm gonna be bad mom. Um uh is like if the closest thing is to go to the warehouse, then like let's go to the warehouse. That's also where we've been directed most recently. That's just and then like the other maybe more side quests or something we can we can do as you know, they might draw, they might, you know, put put us in that direction. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 38:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

The only thing is if we're not gonna look for the priest, we're gonna have to bring Cersei.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

Yeah, but unless they already met. I'm not actually gonna touch. Oh, we have to have that conversation.

SPEAKER_03 38:46

That's my thinking, is maybe she doesn't have the box anymore and she got infected by the priest.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

Yeah, and we were too late. We'll have to find out, but I think Janice is isn't gonna let Cersei out of his sight, knowing while the priest is out there. So if we decide not to go after the priest, then he's just gonna drag her with him.

SPEAKER_05 39:01

I'm um really excited for the ball. Yeah. Um because Spencer has clued us in that it's a little bit mask of the red death coded. Is that a spoiler?

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Not really, just there's a ball during a plague. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 39:13

Because I think I I Plague Ball.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Episode title, episode title when that happens, episode title when that happens.

SPEAKER_05 39:21

Let's Plague Ball.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:22

Yeah. Um Let's Roll. Nice. I am really excited for that uh aesthetic, I guess, vibe. Like I like I I want to almost go in like in costume or like it like I just think the idea of really like I say like so much, it's really annoying. Um really steering into that vibe was is seems fun to me, and I'm excited for it. Yeah. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

If only we had Yama to craft us up some costume. I have minor look for.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

Yeah, Patch does not want to wear a suit, but I want to see Patch in his little suit.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

Yeah. Patch in his little velvet tux.

SPEAKER_04 39:59

Yes, his little his like suits, like one of those like tuxes that kids wear that has like shorts.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Yeah, you've got a clip-on tie.

SPEAKER_05 40:06

Lucy's gonna go as like um uh in Van Helsing, Kate Beck and Sale in Van Helsing for the vampire ball. Like red gown.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Yes, very.

unknown 40:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Like red gown is gonna be a big gun.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Janice is gonna be blade.

SPEAKER_04 40:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

And yeah, Janice is gonna put on a black trench coat. Oh, wait, I want to be blade. Sunglasses.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

I picture when Patch combs his hair, it's that thing where like it's straight and then the edge is all.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

I'm gonna go as uh John Liguizamo in Romeo and Juliet. No, in uh in fucking uh what was it?

SPEAKER_04 40:42

Ice Age.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

No, uh uh it's a superhero movie that did not do well and I love it. Too long food.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

Thanks for nothing, Julie Newmar.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

Starts with an S. Uh Superman. No, Spider-Man burned and he goes to hell and he calls back spawn. Yeah, yeah, so good. John Ligu can you look up? Can you show them John Liguzama on Spawn? I know exactly what he looks like. He looks like makeup he's got so big.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Because it was on so many there were so many previews for Spawn on 90s VHS tapes.

SPEAKER_05 41:14

Oh my god. That is not what I was expecting. Me neither. What what year is that from?

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Like 1999. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

And six-year-old Matt was fucking obsessed.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

But I I will say Janice's uh what he wants to wear is probably something cool. Um, but I feel like he's gonna go home and it's gonna be like, we still have your Pram tax, and it's he's gonna end up going looking like my cousin Vinny.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Yeah. Well, on that note, I think we've got a lot to look forward to. Thank you all so much for listening.

SPEAKER_04 41:48

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

First subscribe to the Patreon movie.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Look forward to my spawn cast coming out soon.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

My biological clock is ticking.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

It's gonna be 400 episodes all about spawn.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

The movie. Not the comic. Hour long. Just the movie. The movie, just the one movie. We're just gonna talk about John Liguizamo's makeup.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Well, Spawn Girl. Hey. And one more for old time's sake.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

Let's roll away. Bye bye.