TOQ-Back: Ep 31

The cast talks big reveals and the end of the party.

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

Sorry, talk back.

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Let's begin. Yeah. Let's tiptoe into the talk back.

unknown 0:05

Tiptoe.

SPEAKER_06 0:08

Welcome back to the talk back.

SPEAKER_05 0:10

Welcome back to the talkback. Welcome back to the talk back.

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Welcome to the talkback. And if it's your first time and not back, welcome to the talkback.

SPEAKER_06 0:17

Welcome for the very first time to the talk back. We'll give you the tour. Over there's our gamer apparatus. We like to strap in and play games.

SPEAKER_03 0:26

What are you pointing to? That.

SPEAKER_06 0:28

That the gamer apparatus.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

The camera game? I forgot there's a camera.

SPEAKER_06 0:32

I forgot. I totally forgot there's a visual component.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

There's a version of this that's going to be a good one. It's behind the camera. It's behind the camera.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Oh, that's the LED camera. It's like it's the thing in the Sims where they get in and it just spins them.

SPEAKER_06 0:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:46

None of these words mean anything to Jeremy.

SPEAKER_05 0:49

Jeremy's in it.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Jeremy. Jeremy, I do know. Jeremy's strapped in.

SPEAKER_06 0:54

Well, uh without further ado, shall we start talking about the actual episode that we actually recorded in the case?

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Hey, shut up. Sorry, I was talking back.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

Oh, I understand.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

You're not the boss of me.

SPEAKER_06 1:08

Oh, wow. That's good. Shane, Matt, you guys want to get one out?

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Uh no.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

It's really the the core of myself. I'm just like, I respect authority figures. Oh. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

It's just who plays well with others.

SPEAKER_06 1:21

Being called an authority figure by you right now did something to me. Like I thought to myself, I was like, wow.

unknown 1:27

Huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:29

I guess I am.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Did you feel that in your pelvic floor?

SPEAKER_06 1:31

I felt it in my pelvic floor.

SPEAKER_05 1:32

He no longer has any any any issues. Yeah. No emotional issues. No. This is blanket. It's healing. Blanket issues. And here's my uh talk back. Fuck you. Oh classic.

SPEAKER_06 1:45

Matt is grounded.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

Oh. Ah. On Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_06 1:49

On Mother's Day, Matt. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

I thought you meant that in a good, like positive, actory way.

SPEAKER_06 1:55

No, I know. I meant he's in trouble. I mean he has to go to his room.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

That was a compliment. You're grounded.

SPEAKER_06 2:00

Rex actually can't ground it. Wherever you guys rest, Rex can't leave from there in the morning. So you got he has to stay there. Our new tiny hut.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

Speaking of the episode.

SPEAKER_06 2:11

Speaking of the episode. Thank you, Chloe. We don't have to talk about the episode. We got a tiny hut. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

We got a tiny hut.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Because of drinking, right? No, because we found the belly bell.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Which is where we started, actually, in the episode, is just finding the bell and getting possible episode title pitch, The Bell of the Ball.

SPEAKER_06 2:31

Bella de Ball.

unknown 2:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:33

Because we also have that bit with Sarah. The Bella De Ball. Debella de Ball.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

The Bella De Ball.

SPEAKER_06 2:41

Yeah, you guys found the Bell, got your little tiny hut. I'm excited to see how you guys decorate that, John.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

It's more than just a bathroom.

SPEAKER_05 2:51

Well, we're going to put the bell in it, of course. Oh, you're going to put the bell in the bottom. Do we still have it?

SPEAKER_01 2:56

That's what I'm saying. Can we keep the bell?

SPEAKER_06 2:58

Yeah, it's just a replica. Like it doesn't have like it.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

How big is it?

SPEAKER_06 3:01

Um, it's it's small. It's like a that's bigger than I thought it was. You know that's another one.

SPEAKER_05 3:05

Lucy wore it on her head for Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

It's like hat size. Yeah. She looks like she was in Devo.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

The real the real bell, Janet, you would know, is like Liberty Bell size. But um, yeah, no, you guys can. I'm excited to see how you decorate your tiny hut.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

I imagine each it's gonna be like uh separated into quadrants, and each quadrant is gonna reflect our aesthetic. That's cute.

SPEAKER_05 3:28

We should hang that. Oh, maybe not. I was gonna say we should hang the sash up, but it actually has magical properties. Yeah. What does the sash do?

SPEAKER_01 3:36

We can hang the bell up in the middle and it can have a light fixture. Oh, that's cute. I like it. A disco ball. That's really cool. Shoot rainbows everywhere. Yeah. We'll shine a light through it.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

I think we're gonna have two bunk beds. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

I was gonna say we're gonna have we have two bunk beds. Of course. Yeah, two sets of bunk beds.

SPEAKER_05 3:55

Rex with jan. I mean Rex with Patch. Of course.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Patches on the I think Patch would want to be on the top.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. More private.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

He has one of those like shells. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:09

Rex is always like bouncing a ball against the underside.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Oh, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_05 4:14

You said you do that with my brother. You like kick your feet into it, you know? Wow, that's so annoying.

SPEAKER_06 4:18

Yeah, that sounds I would hate you.

SPEAKER_05 4:22

I actually I don't think I ever did it. I was the top bunk because I was. Well, actually, I never did it.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

So actually I'm actually um between you and your brother, you were the top. Are you did you have bunk beds growing up?

unknown 4:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

That's cute. Are you telling this memory based a movie you saw once?

SPEAKER_05 4:35

No, this is legitimately I had I had a bunk bed.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

I had bunk beds too.

unknown 4:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

I did not like them. Because crawling like getting out of the bed in the morning first thing had to go down the stairs and like the the steps hurt your feet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:49

I didn't have stairs, I had a ladder.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

That's what I mean. A ladder. Yeah. The rungs would hurt your feet.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

I always wanted one of those um loft beds that has a little desk under it. Yeah. I never got one.

SPEAKER_06 5:00

I did that, I did that in college. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

I felt like you went to college, Spencer?

SPEAKER_04 5:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 5:09

Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 5:10

Just like Lucy. Everyone's mad at me. That's something we we needed to talk about. Oh yeah. Apparently Lucy went to college. This is not known. Yeah, this is. I I Chloe and Patch assumed that you were lying.

SPEAKER_06 5:21

Often under discussed.

SPEAKER_05 5:22

Agreed. Agreed. I thought every time you I thought you were joking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

To be fair, I'm sure I said it like, no, I did go to college.

SPEAKER_06 5:30

Yes. Well, and also like Lucy, like part of her deal is she's so tied to where she came from. Right. That like her. It's surprising. Yeah, it's surprising, which I think is good because it's like it's it's a it lent her depth.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

Yeah, I think there probably was like um, I guess like later years in high school, senior years in high school. I think Lucy is was probably kind of different than she is now. Yeah. I think it was one of those like you forget your inner child and you kind of grow up to this like shell of a human and then you have to learn afterward to like you know let go of that and like be who you are again. Yeah, improv. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:06

Goth Lucy.

SPEAKER_03 6:07

Yeah. Like came like goth, but yeah. Maybe like a student council Lucy.

SPEAKER_06 6:12

Student Council Lucy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Terrifying. Lucy got very like straight edge and bookish when she was in college.

SPEAKER_04 6:20

Can you tell us a little bit about where she went and what she studied? Um no, I haven't figured that out yet. Okay. Okay. I don't know. I just want to make sure that it's that it checks out. No, that it's that it's said. Oh, yeah, we'll say we'll say it in a main episode. We'll talk about it. Yeah, I think it'll come up more.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Um I don't have that yet.

unknown 6:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:39

Exciting. Exciting, an exciting little uh uh That's what I care about.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Education.

SPEAKER_06 6:45

Yeah, exciting bud for the future.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

Yeah, it's lore. A lore bud.

SPEAKER_05 6:50

So not to get us back on track.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

But get us back on track.

SPEAKER_05 6:53

Okay. So we split up into our different conversations.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Oh yeah, after our bell.

SPEAKER_05 6:58

We you guys talked to uh uh Azure Bones.

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Yeah, and just a pseudonym. Yeah, just a phone.

SPEAKER_06 7:06

I I I thought so hard that I had telegraphed who he was enough that you guys would be like, when I said just a pseudonym, you'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, I know who that is.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

No. Um uh Shane knew.

SPEAKER_06 7:18

Shane knew.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

I didn't know until after it was it had gone into their scene and I texted Sarah because I put it together.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

I didn't know who it was. I just knew that that's not a real person.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

Uh oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:31

I thought it What gave that away?

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Um it was a tone of his voice, I think is what it was.

SPEAKER_06 7:38

Yeah, the suspicious glint in his illusory eye.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

It was the the last name, the surname. Because Jesta could be anything. Jesta could be.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

I think you did introduce him as Jesta, but like we that was I think this episode was the first time we heard his full name, Jesta Pseudonym, and I was like And pseudonym is suspicious. Come on.

SPEAKER_04 7:55

I remembered that the third priest was in the was embedded in the cover, in the arconery. So I was like, oh yes, yeah. And I also thought it was cute retrospectively that was like, oh, that means that um while the priest and bones were dancing together in the first activity. I thought about that.

SPEAKER_06 8:13

Yeah, they're they're buddies. Yeah, I think I like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

They smoke up, which of course makes me like bones more. Yeah, we were suspicious of bones, but we never should have been.

SPEAKER_04 8:22

And I wasn't overly suspicious.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

I never lost faith in Bones.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

I assumed that he liked us.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

I think we needed, I think I needed a confirmation, but I was hoping with all hope that Bones was was.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Did we have any interaction with him? Well, we we talked with him on the way when we first got to Plutopolis. We talked to him. He has a great voice. And he had like a we had some he had some sort of like, I'm a nice, chill guy. Okay, based on that conversation, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Yeah, yeah. And he really cares about Circe. Yes, and knowing that they were both okay.

SPEAKER_05 8:50

He seemed like a good dude from the beginning and also he has a great voice and a great name. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

Yeah, and I had forgiven either both. So I was like, how do we know? I know you were up, you were getting onto Patch.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

You were like, we were just like, no, we just Yeah, you ask we just do it.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

I was like, but how?

SPEAKER_06 9:05

I think also from a metagame perspective, I was like, I'm not gonna do another evil necromancer this soon after Silas, you know, like Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:14

Also it it could have been like the ultimate fake out red herring type of thing. Yeah like that, oh no, it's actually he's the bad one, the one that we were right, right, like falsely like lul lulled into. Yes. But I'm glad it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:30

Because I I would have cried if Ebenezer Bones would had been bad. Right.

SPEAKER_06 9:34

Personally, I I love a silly, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

I I would say I well, okay. I was thinking I was gonna say I wouldn't care. And then I was like, you should care. Don't say that. Yeah. And then that's why I stopped myself. But then I thought, I'll tell you guys because I like to be honest.

SPEAKER_06 9:48

So we appreciate your on board. We appreciate your own.

SPEAKER_05 9:51

Everyone has their own favorites, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 9:55

Speaking of um favorites, Cadra and I love Kadra.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Yeah, would you care if Kadra was evil?

SPEAKER_04 10:00

I would care very much.

SPEAKER_06 10:03

I I by the end of that episode, I was like, they both fuck with Lucy to an extent that has changed my original idea of their character. Like I like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

I loved that, like I loved enough that first episode or last episode where it didn't go like it didn't get the necklace, that plan didn't work. Yeah, and then to then just like continue on being friends with someone, and then truly a shot in the dark. Do you have any more antiques I could look at? I didn't, I wasn't thinking about the study at all. Yeah, that was just like, oh, I want to get in with them and do things that they like to do, and then boom, we got in the office.

SPEAKER_06 10:34

Yeah, yeah, it was it was I feel like so smart of you guys, and like bringing Patch along to look while you like distracted them was perfect, and your roles were so good. Was that an at 20 to get in there too?

SPEAKER_04 10:45

She she rolled an I rolled an at 20 to look charming, yeah. To be invited in, and then she rolled a nat 20 to further persuade. No, no, no, and then she rolled a nat 20 to sh to distract them. So I rolled an at 20 to investigate. I think over the episode, yeah, all of us combined rolled like eight or something nat 20s crazy. It was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_06 11:07

It was every it was truly one of those episodes where it's like everything just kind of works out for the part. Like most things you guys did kind of just worked out in your favor, mostly.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

Which is nice because I feel like we could you we use we could needed a win like that, like an episode of wins.

SPEAKER_06 11:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

Just because the rest of the plague is hard, and so some things needed to go right.

SPEAKER_04 11:27

Yeah, I think we're about to lose something.

SPEAKER_06 11:30

Yeah, I mean we'll see what happens, but for sure. Um the and that's like it was very satisfying for me when we got to the you know, fast forwarding to the end of the episode, and all the stuff you guys had done over these two episodes resulted in like a blowout vote.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Yes, that was so satisfying to put that together piece by piece. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

We had a lot of lucky roles to get, especially with them. Like, we charmed a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

And yeah, like like um, what's his name at the bar from the Bad Ratley? God Ratley, that didn't think we were gonna get him. You guys did good work on who uh who are you talking to? Well, you talked to Troyoc Trioxis.

SPEAKER_05 12:06

We did not do a good job of Trioctis. We'll talk. Yeah, I feel like we'll talk about Trioctus at the end.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

But like we we got Senna, we got I mean, we got everyone else.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Uh Hyson Georgiana, getting Senna was getting Senna and Ratley, it was like those were the two like floaters.

SPEAKER_06 12:22

Like if they they were the hardest to win over, like in terms of like the the the they were predisposed Senna not so much against you, but like Ratley was definitely predisposed against you. Right. Um and and Senna just so much like doesn't care. Her priorities are not your priorities in a way that is like extreme.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

Yeah, I feel like Senna was way more um like aloof and and image based that I feel like would have sucked up to Caladez, or like that would that person would have been like Absolutely something that they wanted to agree with and be seen in a good favorable light. And so to like make that change was very satisfying.

SPEAKER_06 13:01

Well and like she her whole driving thing. I I I mentioned briefly that I had these like little character cards that are like there's their goal, here's their tactics, here's their voice, so I could try to remember. Um her whole thing was like I don't want to fuck up with the like I don't want to talk about the plague, yeah. I don't want to like I want this to be a great party and I want people to have fun, and that's what I want.

SPEAKER_04 13:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:25

Which is like like obviously short-sighted and and kind of stupid, but like she's a socialite, yeah. She's a socialite, and you guys, Lucy's deal with her of just being like, oh my god, you're the cool like sucking up to her was the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Yeah, I was like, you know what? It's like the plague never happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:43

Like it was Yeah, she said that's exactly what I was going for.

SPEAKER_06 13:47

It was it was really, really well done of you guys. Um that was very fun. Speaking of uh uh well done, speaking of steak, speaking of uh bull guy, uh guy. Oh yeah, yes, that's right. Your interaction with Lieutenant Bud Luss.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

Haughty, haughty alert.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Well evil alert. He kidnapped my sister.

SPEAKER_05 14:08

I'm still, yeah. He can still be hot. We flubbed that one, but I don't think that we could have done anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:17

Like, I think he was I mean, I think you did well in your interaction with him. I feel like it was your interaction with Trioctis.

SPEAKER_05 14:24

No, no, that's what that's what I'm talking about. Just kind of like the top the start of having awareness of him. Yeah. Obviously at the end of last episode we saw him, but then when he like stopped Trioctus from trying to take out a sword when I was talking shit.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Yeah, I think there's still a couple of uh we haven't seen everyone's hand yet. Triactus is a piece of shit, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Yeah, Janice will show no mercy.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Um I got your back.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

Thanks, Rick. We have opinions, we have different opinions on the right.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

We have different opinions on what to do about Triactus.

SPEAKER_06 14:55

I'm curious to hear your opinions.

SPEAKER_04 14:57

Oh, let's finish what you're saying, Shane.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

But you know, him saying that uh Cersei was kidnapped by a Minotaur, basically, and everyone at the um the rookery was uh rounded up by a minotaur. Oh, I'm I still don't know his alliance if he's like just Trioctus' dude or if he's actually like trying to do good. Um so he's he's still a mystery to me. I think there's more to be revealed. Yeah, uh and potentially with Trioctus as well. Um, but I I also do feel like like he might be the turn that we were expecting with Bones, where we were like, oh, the Minotaur seems like he might be a good guy, but is actually uh actually bad.

SPEAKER_03 15:37

It wasn't just following orders, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

So I don't I so the Minotaur is is uh could go either way from that.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

That's true. The the whole like stopping the blade thing could have been like actually I'm in charge, and outwardly it looks like I'm just your second being like hey man's.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Is this Toby's brother and he's actually like an unbound infiltrate for Prince of Darkness with Trioxus? Like, who knows?

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Interesting, hasn't by the dollar signs. Yeah, but we don't know.

SPEAKER_06 16:07

He's like that's an awesome way to say hasn't by the dollar sign. I'm gonna start using that.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Yeah, as in like hasn't by the balls, but like monetarily, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:15

Yeah, that's good. Yeah, hasn't by the dollar signs.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

Hasn't by the bank bags.

SPEAKER_06 16:19

Ooh, that's that's good too.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Moneybags.

SPEAKER_06 16:23

Hate to say it though. I did like that a little bit. It's okay. Moneybags and the money bags.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

This is how we punch up jokes.

SPEAKER_06 16:30

Hate to say it, Matt, but I like Chloe's better.

SPEAKER_05 16:32

Oh, no, no, no. One, two, three.

SPEAKER_06 16:34

Okay, Janice or Shane, do you want to?

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Do I want to beat money bags? Yeah. Uh grab them by the coin purse.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Yeah!

SPEAKER_01 16:43

That's good too.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

It might be a saying.

SPEAKER_06 16:46

Yeah, I think that is actually. I think we've worked our way back together.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

Yeah. Should we do should we like write stuff together? Like sayings?

SPEAKER_03 16:54

No, just like Hallmark cards? Should we write sayings together? I think that's a good Twitter account.

SPEAKER_06 17:03

Have I told you guys that I've been obsessed with the sayings um um just us chickens? What? Have I told you guys this?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

No, I didn't realize you were obsessed with that.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

No, I don't think.

SPEAKER_06 17:12

I've I've recently been obsessed with when they when Is that the original saying? Where it's just like, ah, you know, no no one but us chickens.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:20

Something like that.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

I I I know what you're talking about in the channel. It's originally mice. But I wasn't sure if it was just us chickens. You know, like like who's in there? It's like just us chickens.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

I love just chickens in the coop.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Yes, but there's like, but it's actually a wolf in a chicken outfit. Yeah, yeah. Like, really? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

I can I I still love the ye old, like, I don't know, old vine days of look at all those chickens. Yes, yeah. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 17:46

You hate to give it up for vine as being it holds up. It holds up.

SPEAKER_05 17:50

Yeah, the world would be a better place if Vine if Vine was still around and we didn't hear TikTok.

SPEAKER_06 17:54

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Um, so yeah, you uh uh suspicious goings on with Trioxus.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

Oh, he's right back in. Rex No segue.

SPEAKER_06 18:06

Rex uh uh uh uh drop in the thing about his dead son.

SPEAKER_05 18:14

I don't know, I didn't know I had no filter. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:17

Which is also making you guys had a couple to drink in the game. Like it makes sense that you'd be a little loose.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

Yeah, I think it was it was trying to get some sort of rise out of him because he wasn't giving us anything. Yeah, yeah. Like initially trying to appeal to his like honor, honor, honorable side, and then being like, okay, if this isn't gonna work, I'm gonna go the exact opposite of being like, Yeah, you know, yeah, that's I mean, that's tough though.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

I've been doing that with I did that with I just burped into the mic. I forgot and was like, oh, I'm gonna make noise, I better lean in.

SPEAKER_05 18:52

Oh, this looks like something that would muffle the sound. Um sorry. I did that with Caladeus in the last episode. Yeah, and I it's funny because Rex is like pretty charismatic. Yeah, uh Matt isn't.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

That's not true. Matt has no quite charismatic.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

Yeah, I get it, I get it. Uh but it it still was like I I feel like I I hit the the the nuke button on that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Like and that was fine. The conv it was time to nuke the conversation, yeah, frankly. Like he was gaslighting us and we were not having it.

SPEAKER_04 19:31

Patch does think he can think he can save um Trioctus. Trioctus.

SPEAKER_06 19:36

We'll see. I think in what way? I think the true It depends on what Trioctus has done, too.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Yeah, I think Oh, because he was tricked. Yeah, I think Patch is feeling very empathetic towards him being tricked.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

I mean, at the very least, Trioctus ruined Senna's party.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

That's kind of crazy though, because I get I get the being fellow tricked by Phoenix, but like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

We don't know that it was Phoenix who tricked him, too. It was never specifically stated that Phoenix was the one who tricked him.

SPEAKER_06 20:04

It could have just been Oh tr try Trioctus?

SPEAKER_01 20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:07

Yeah, I mean it you don't know like as far as you know, it was a sham that's it wasn't even necessarily a god. Like it it could have just been a dude.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Just could have been a random dude.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

A white woman in some like flowy scarves.

SPEAKER_06 20:18

Yeah, it was a white woman in some flows. How did you know? Sarah, have you been reading my notes?

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Isn't that just Caladeus?

SPEAKER_06 20:25

Oh, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

This is a group thing. Um so I don't know, like maybe this is like why I my my Lucy perspective, but like killing your son for the greater good, like I what are we nothing to save there.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_05 20:43

Yeah, I think I there my perspective on it is you can do you can you can be tricked, but then it's like, and I can feel bad for you. But if you're not going to learn from it, then and you're gonna like continue to kill your son again. You're gonna find a way to undo the thing that you did wrong by doing more wrong. It's like two wrongs don't make you righteous, you know.

SPEAKER_06 21:08

Yeah, two wrongs don't make it.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

But no one's taught him how to be right.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Oh my god, that's beautiful. Trioctage general.

SPEAKER_04 21:17

Yeah, Patch has forgotten.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

I can save him.

SPEAKER_06 21:26

No, I think I think Patch does have some sort of like empathy at the way.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

Yeah, or like fear of I don't want to end up like you, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

No, I think it's like and I think Patch does see, like, you know, in this world where prophecies exist, being told that this will uh stop a war. Yeah, you know, I think Patch is pretty um empirical when it comes to things like that.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

So I think he might have more Well Patch is in the in between your family or your shop right now. Patch is in the quagmire of it's your family or your shop right now. That was the last message Patch got from a god.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

You think Phoenix was joking?

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Well we'll see. Patch doesn't care. Patch is Patch a lot of defensiveness coming over on the side of the table. Patch's the last thing Patch heard from Phoenix is that Phoenix likes him.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

Who which God told you you have to pick between your family or your shop? Phoenix did as closest. As closest. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 22:31

So we'll see. So we'll see. That also, yeah, that would be a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

Yeah, Patch, but you could match that choice onto a war or your son. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

Yeah. Yeah. I think Patch also isn't taking anything Phoenix as seriously.

SPEAKER_06 22:47

One big kidder. Yeah. He's such a kidder. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:50

One big kidder.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Yeah. Phoenix is tough because it's like I don't know if if his only motivation is to be chaotic, which it could be. He's not good, he's not evil. He's just Phoenix. Uh like. Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

I gotta say this might be terrible, but post Alice, I like Phoenix more.

unknown 23:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:15

No, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

Yeah, I agree. Hard agree.

SPEAKER_06 23:21

Yeah. I feel I feel like it feels like he wants something more.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

He's trying to get to know you.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

He wants to spend time with you. It's like and and like in a way of um conception feels like endearment.

SPEAKER_06 23:32

Yeah. In a way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

And that's very toxic, but like idea of um and that like Phoenix wants good things for you.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

That feels violated.

SPEAKER_06 23:43

That's fair. That's super fair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

I don't think you two should be together necessarily, but but there's chemistry. So I want to see you hook up.

SPEAKER_06 23:50

There's good chat.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

I want to see you hook up in episode three. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 23:53

There's good chat. Yeah, but there's good chat, bro.

SPEAKER_05 23:56

I don't it's not the like Greek mythology, but like his big low key vibes, right? Like you're you're you know, you're just gonna kill Spencer.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

I almost guillotine Spencer.

SPEAKER_05 24:09

Yeah. And I would be DM.

SPEAKER_03 24:13

No, I'm closer. I could do it.

SPEAKER_05 24:15

You could have you.

SPEAKER_06 24:18

If I died right now, I do think you would each dive over the screen to be the like I do think it would be a war of succession. No, I think I would bleed, I would be able to be saved, and I would bleed out. We would be fighting over and you'd be like, um let me get let me open the notes and see what um and I change it.

SPEAKER_04 24:36

Yeah, you would roll your you would roll your death saves while we were.

SPEAKER_06 24:43

Um yeah, no, uh uh uh yeah, he's I mean very trick trickster god core, Hermes, like the the turning into animals, turning disguising yourself as people just being generally rotten. I do it.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

I do feel like someone has like maybe even just in passing mentioned um Phoenix potentially being the person who tricked Trioctus. Yeah, so I think just I said that. So I think just in that patch is like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And right now Phoenix is not his enemy.

SPEAKER_05 25:12

That's cool. I'm excited to see how it's.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

But I also feel like Phoenix in the big battle at the end will be on our side. Yeah. Like so I I feel like I've already I don't know, like, oh yeah, he's on our side. We got him.

SPEAKER_05 25:25

Yeah, I do think it's like fun through the story of like Patch being like trying to keep this guy at the end of the day. Absolutely. Will they wanna do it?

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Absolutely. Yeah, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_05 25:35

Well, that's that's the same thing that I feel like Rex has with you know, that's the two gods.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Same here. We we all have will they won't be relationships with our gods.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

Uh Janice won't.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Yeah, Janice, Janice, Lucy won't either.

SPEAKER_05 25:47

I do want to I became very obsessed with that sword that you mentioned.

SPEAKER_04 25:51

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_06 25:52

Oh yeah. Yeah, you learned both that you have the sword of Mogus and that possibly crazy the sword of Irawas is.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Oh my gosh, wait, when the plague happens in chaos, I need to do it. It's gonna be so easy to smash into the office.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

Yeah, Patch is standing by that's Patch's plan, is if things turn violent, he's gonna smash and that's so cool. He's gonna I love the idea from Dorov.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

I think we could get Senna to give Rex the sword depending on the shit that goes down.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Oh my gosh, you have to give it to him, he needs it.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

But it was so expensive.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Well, y'all are much more expensive it's gonna be if he fights the plague with it and defeats the plague with that sword.

SPEAKER_06 26:26

Oh my god. So that's what's actually a really good point.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Hold on, save this conversation because that's the conversation that needs to happen. That's the conversation that needs to need to happen.

SPEAKER_06 26:37

You did kind of convince me in real life at Senna of like, yeah, you're right. If it's used to defeat the plague, it becomes a Plutoplan artifact. I could sell it. Me having it is worth so much more. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

They're in the cellar, right now. We're separated. I'm good at this game.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

You are should have been a rogue.

SPEAKER_06 26:54

32 episodes in pop.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

And we gotta, and the other thing is, is we gotta get out of the cellar. I don't know what's in the cellar, what's in store for us, Dylan, here. Uh Rex and I. You somehow missed the cell. They're in the cellar.

SPEAKER_06 27:08

Yeah, what where were you?

SPEAKER_01 27:11

When we split up at the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

Patch and Lucy are in the office with the vote. That's right. Janice and Rex were sent a message.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

That's right. Midus in the cellar.

SPEAKER_06 27:23

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:23

Midas wasn't in the cellar.

SPEAKER_06 27:26

Midas and Midas were not in the cellar.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Midas in the ballroom, them in the cellar.

SPEAKER_06 27:30

Mid us in the ballroom, Midas in the library.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

But I was gonna say, on our way back up, we gotta grab Midas. Um my gosh, I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

That's another reason I want to try to talk to Trioctus, is because I feel like in the short. Matt's whole head on this.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

I missed it. I'll I'll have to have to watch this over and over again.

SPEAKER_04 27:58

Is because I think in the short term it might be easier. Because there's another thing is Patch has a wish. So there's a chance that Patch No. I don't want no no no no no. And I also don't want to like lay out all my cards. Yeah, I don't. But there's a chance that Patch can convince uh Trioxus to like just not let the plague in here for a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

The plague's in there.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

Well, to at least help us get it out and not have as many like combatants on the field.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

I'm interested to see how he and Calidaeus because he and Caladeus were also both in the room.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

That's what I'm I think that's gonna be the deciding factor is like are they in cahoots or is he working for Calidaeus because he wants his son to be alive?

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Yeah, I'm curious to see how like Calidaeus shields obviously herself because she's the worst. Um but also like if she pulls trioctas. Oh, she has that like wall of force, like yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

Oh, that's right. That fire ward eating fire.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

The plague guard was using divine magic to keep the plague at bay.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

And fire.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

And fire. And she's good at that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

So she did that in the in the town square, right? That fire wall thing.

SPEAKER_05 29:07

The the thing is, and this is what we were talking about uh with Alan Spencer, but like I used the the phrase like January 6th thing or something. Yeah, and that does feel like what Tri Octus is doing. Like he's January 6th? Like he's he's overthrowing the government. He's overthrowing the government.

SPEAKER_04 29:23

Oh, he's storming the Capitol. He is interesting.

SPEAKER_05 29:25

He's storming the Capitol. He said your votes don't matter anymore. My vote is the most important. And I basically at the end of it. Did he say that?

SPEAKER_04 29:33

No. No. I think he said like he said, my vote is left. And then we heard a scream from downstairs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

And you look outside and the playgards are gone.

SPEAKER_04 29:43

He's like, Can we play the end of the episode? Yeah, we might need to play the episode. I put it in the end of the episode. Um, but I No, I that I'm exactly right because I just edited it.

SPEAKER_06 29:50

Yeah, yeah, you are right. Um he definitely didn't say like, and I'm going to become dictator of the Plutopolin government.

SPEAKER_05 29:57

Well, how else would this work other than what what is he trying to get? Other than them to change their votes?

SPEAKER_06 30:04

Who knows? He could, he could, that could be his aim, like what you're saying, but he just made things worse. He definitely didn't see announce like Maybe he's holding us hostage. He he didn't announce like, and now my vote, which is the only one that matters.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Checkmates. Then I must have well then the way you said it conveyed that.

SPEAKER_06 30:25

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 30:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:27

It was in the performance, not in the text.

SPEAKER_06 30:29

Exactly. Interesting. Interesting. Super super text or whatever. Supra text. Super text. Supratext.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

Your goat. Well. Goal objective action tactic. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

So grounded.

SPEAKER_04 30:43

So grounded.

SPEAKER_06 30:44

Oh man. Beat it out. Note. We're gonna, I think.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

I think just go straight into recording the next episode. Apparently, I need to catch up on some a few things before we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_06 30:54

Yeah, we gotta we're gonna listen again to the end. We're gonna listen again.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

And I'm putting my foot down about being right about what happens in the episode because I listened to it so much. Yeah, no, you are right. Absolutely. It's not because I don't trust you, I just don't remember it. And not that anyone was doing that. Okay, but just uh something that I've clocked for myself.

SPEAKER_06 31:10

Yes. Yeah. It's not that we don't trust you, it's that we think you're a liar. So we believe that you are. Because my god is Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Yes, I don't want it. Yeah, I believe that you know. Just kidding. I don't believe that you're saying the correct thing because you want to say because you're a liar.

unknown 31:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

I believe that you think that's true.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I believe that Sarah does not remember what happened at the end of the episode. I believe so listen to her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:34

Apparently I didn't either. So that's because that's because I had put deworming pills in your guys' food, and those probably kicked in.

SPEAKER_05 31:40

That's what was in the drinks.

SPEAKER_06 31:41

That's why I pooped so much. Oh my god. I dewormed both of you.

SPEAKER_05 31:44

Wait, I don't have my worms anymore?

SPEAKER_06 31:46

Yeah, I got rid of them.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Those are my worms.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

I paid so much money for those.

SPEAKER_06 31:50

Well, you're gonna have to buy them again.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

We have to put them in the other room and clockwork orange their ears so they can listen to the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_06 31:57

Oh, I thought you were saying the worms.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

No.

SPEAKER_06 32:00

On that note, thank you so much for listening to the talk, Magic. Thank you very much for listening. Uh we're gonna we're gonna get out of here. Uh hey.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

We're gonna get out of here and stay right here.

SPEAKER_06 32:08

Why don't you why don't you why don't you um have a have a good day?

SPEAKER_04 32:13

Don't forget to try the gamer rig on your way out. Don't forget to try your gamer rig.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

It'll shake you. So have some we have some dramatine.

SPEAKER_05 32:19

Do something fun today. Yeah. For yourself.

SPEAKER_04 32:22

Say uh say it's Mother's Day. It's not gonna be Mother's Day when you listen to this, but say Call your mother. Say I love you to the mothers in your life. If you love them. Yeah. Yeah. Don't lie. Yeah. Like Phoenix.

SPEAKER_05 32:35

If you love your mom, tell them that you love them. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:39

And on that note, thank you so much for listening. Love you.