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The casts talks Narcissum's zany two-shot
T-t-t-talk back. Talk back. Hey, we're talking back. We're talking back about Roan? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04About Ron? Yo, welcome to the Rhone Talk Back. This side of the river. My favorite type of horse. Welcome to the Roan Talk Back.
SPEAKER_07My favorite place, there's a cathedral.
SPEAKER_04Yes, of the Avion Popes.
SPEAKER_07Yo.
SPEAKER_09And what are we going to do about them? We're going to talk back about it.
SPEAKER_07We're going to talk back about it. About the real housewives of the street. We're going to talk about the real housewives of Narcisum. I love that show. It's one of my favorite shows. It's a guilty pleasure, but such a guilty pleasure. Those women are strong.
SPEAKER_06Those they're strong, important women with a story to tell.
SPEAKER_04They say some really crazy things. Yeah. Some out there wild things, but gosh, you like you like to hear them.
SPEAKER_06At the end of the day, they're hot and powerful.
SPEAKER_05And you can't underestimate the effect they've had on society.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_05On pop culture.
SPEAKER_06They're high society ladies.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I wonder if, you know, one of the catchphrases, I don't know what our catchphrases are, but if any of the catchphrases like permeate society and then an NPC, like later on in the story, starts saying them, like referencing the show. That would be pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_08That'd be cool. Who knows?
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I've got a gun in my handbag. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_07You're talking to Caladeus in the main campaign. I've got a gun in my handbag.
SPEAKER_04Wait, wait, what if Caladeus has been trying to get on that show for years?
SPEAKER_09She's unwed.
SPEAKER_04And hasn't.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that's most of them are. Most of them are unwed. That's true, actually.
SPEAKER_07They're divorced. Only Dr.
SPEAKER_05Holly. That's really funny. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Who okay? Can we talk for a moment about Dr. Holly? Vincenzi has also. We talk a lot about Dr. Holly.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Can we just talk about how Dr. Holly is in a happy relation? It's so funny. Yeah. Like.
SPEAKER_04No. Well, not no. Yes. And I loved Dr.
SPEAKER_07Nice. That was a totally impromptu moment.
SPEAKER_04Nice save.
SPEAKER_07Where did you learn? Anyone at home, write that down. That's how you improvise right there.
SPEAKER_04You say yes and I loved that moment of us, like the other characters figuring that out and be like, why didn't you tell us?
SPEAKER_07I slipped Chloe a note that was like, if I go through your text, are you actually like, is it for real happy? And Chloe was like, in all caps, yes.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, there was like a reveal at the very end of the show that I think Spencer, you were like, I'm starting to think you're actually in a good marriage.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that was so much. It was really cool. Unbridled bullying against Dr. Holly and all the lives she saved.
SPEAKER_04I think it was it was more that we were all so unhappy in our relationships that we couldn't fathom.
SPEAKER_06Couldn't even imagine.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I knew. Dr. Holly knew what was going on.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Oh well, also, like, I like that we didn't we didn't gloss over it, but we didn't. The the housewives didn't get deep into your bad relationship with your kids when we invented a bad relationship with them.
SPEAKER_05Yes. I had a real problem.
SPEAKER_07You kept telling us, like, no, my kids, they don't like to talk to me because I'm so perfect. And we were like, No, that's not fun. You and your wife probably don't sleep in the same bed.
SPEAKER_09While all of you are actively not sleeping in the same bed.
SPEAKER_07Yes, some of our divorce, who knows?
SPEAKER_06Some of our husbands were in jail. It's not our fault.
SPEAKER_04In separate wings. Yes.
SPEAKER_07Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_06Though Cartella may be partly responsible for putting her husband in jail.
SPEAKER_07Oh, absolutely. Yes. Oh. And that's why she's witness protection.
SPEAKER_06That's why she's in witness protection.
SPEAKER_04Defense is wrong.
SPEAKER_09Defense is wrong. I think you guys did a great job of creating these characters, especially the fact that none of you have watched any relatively clients.
SPEAKER_07I thought you were gonna say ever. I thought you were gonna say you guys did such a great job of creating all these characters, especially Cartella. That's how I feel.
SPEAKER_06Especially the best character.
SPEAKER_05Well, my character is based entirely off of Dr. Holly from Dance Moms, a show which I've also never seen. Which one is Dr. Holly from Dance Moms? She's the one who you played? No, actually, go ahead. She's a a doctor, she's Naya's mom. She's like reasonable. She has like sleek black hair. Okay. She's always dressing because she came back from the office. Um and I only know her just because I love to watch those like compilation videos of on YouTube of like best reality show moments. And it's her just like being a normal parent of like making sure the kids are okay in situations where all the other adults are freaking out.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that's fun. Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say, dance moms is the real housewives of Pittsburgh. Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_04I've watched some episodes of it, mostly because of I have a friend that was really into it, and they made me watch it.
SPEAKER_09And you're in the dance community in a city close to Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_04Yes, however, that is the competitive dance community, and I was not involved in that one.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Sarah dances for the love of the game, yeah, and the culture.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Not the competition.
SPEAKER_09That's true. I will I think it it as someone who has watched a fair amount of Real Housewives with my wife, like the there is like when there is a new person on the show, they they like oftentimes don't fucking get it. Like they don't get the fact that like this show is about like bullying each other and creating your own storylines and all that kind of stuff. Like the new sp the new person doesn't get it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_09And I think that was played really well because it was like, I'm just I'm I'm doing, I'm I'm not, there's no problems, like whatever.
SPEAKER_05Like Yeah, I'm I'm drinking wine and talking with these women. What else do you want me to do?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they also haven't been there long enough to have their own issues then. Yes, to then have been corrupted by everyone else.
SPEAKER_07Yes, yeah. I I I have to say, in terms of basing it off of real reality TV people, I based mine off a real housewife.
SPEAKER_09Yes, you did.
SPEAKER_07Of New York City. Which one? Dorinda Medley.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_07She could be.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I do love I see now. I've watched now a handful of episodes because Ketty was so lovely as to give me recommendations. And I have to say, I did like her a lot too.
SPEAKER_07I don't know anything about her. I saw her on Traitors and she was on one episode and then got killed. And so I was just like, I want to play a traitor's housewife.
SPEAKER_06Is that how traitors works? Yeah, they kill her.
SPEAKER_07Alan Cumming comes in with a gun and execution style.
SPEAKER_04What else do you think they would do to the traitor?
SPEAKER_06Why do you think the ratings are so high?
SPEAKER_07Well, uh, it's the people they think is the traitor, so yeah, Alan Cumming comes in and execution style back of the head.
SPEAKER_06Okay, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_09Uh, but yes, I would say, uh, not that it matters, you played more of uh a Luann character.
SPEAKER_07And I know who that is. King of the Hill.
SPEAKER_05I love King of the Hill.
SPEAKER_09Uh she is I listen or something. Duchess Luann. She's like very um Duchess of what?
SPEAKER_04That's what I was trying. Yeah, that sounds like that's me.
SPEAKER_09She married a Duke. A Duke of Wales. No, no, I'm not saying like in terms of Luanda Lessops.
SPEAKER_06I don't think any of the land in the United States is overseen by a Spencer's personality.
SPEAKER_09To New York was that was that. Not necessarily like the background, but just like the being better than everyone.
SPEAKER_07Like, I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_04I just typed in Royal Housewives of New York.
SPEAKER_07We're looking for just that's awesome. We've only done two one-shots so far, but I like that in both of them the dynamic has been toxic and better. Yes, yeah. Like every one-shot, we're like, this is our chance to make people who should not be around each other be around each other.
SPEAKER_06And it's also been all female casts of characters, so we're really just setting women back, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_07Truly. We need to play like a toxic football team. Yo, that's fun. Sarah, you want to run the toxic football team one shot?
SPEAKER_04The problem is I want to be a toxic football player. Okay.
SPEAKER_09I could run it. I can run the toxic football. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, my Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06We could do we could do a brother of mogus one. We could do a frat house one.
SPEAKER_07Like an animal house. Animal house. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Okay. And right is Bull House. Nice job, Swedish. Bullhouse.
SPEAKER_07Damn. I didn't even think of that. And then we get one of the old things to come up with.
SPEAKER_08Full house is just full house with a bunch of red assholes. Raising two girls. Can we please do the two men in a three minute baby?
SPEAKER_07Full house. Three minute a baby, full house, and uh three minute a baby, two and a half minutes, I guess.
SPEAKER_09Two bull girls.
SPEAKER_05Can we please do that?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_09And we need to do, Chloe. We need a lot of like laugh tracks.
SPEAKER_04And then like look every time a scene changes, like a yes.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'd love an easy to come and show. I want this so bad. Bullhouse gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04If none of you run this, we're gonna go, and then we can have like bull house on the prairie.
SPEAKER_07If none of you run this, I am going to one week come in and say, We're not playing main campaign. We are I I passed out blank character sheets. We are making characters and playing bull house.
SPEAKER_08You're level one.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah. They have to be level one and they have to be, but like someone has to think they're level 20.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Yeah. I think bring in three characters and like just this people in this frat die all. That's what I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_05They have to die for real.
SPEAKER_07That's so funny.
SPEAKER_05I feel like we could play like a system that's like there's that system that's like where you're playing like a team of goblins. So you're like multiple goblins, and you can be instead of goblins, they're frat boys. There you go, Sarah. That's really cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09No, I think it would be great. Yeah. First, the first encounter is like the RA. Second encounter is the Dean. Or no, no, no. Second encounter is like the rival frat.
SPEAKER_05And the nerds, we have to bully the nerds.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Oh, we have to pull off like a the best prank the campus has ever seen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Then we have to.
SPEAKER_06And we have to throw up our scholarship on the line.
SPEAKER_04We have to win the big game. Yep. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_07Um, we have to steal the uh uh mascot of the rival team.
SPEAKER_04Yes. We have to deal with a call, which in this case is a is a is a is a well it would be a horse.
SPEAKER_07It wouldn't be horse is a Tarask. Yeah, we have to Tarask.
SPEAKER_09Tarasque. Um but yeah, no, we will do we will do bull house. But yeah, real housewives.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, we we we're getting ahead of ourselves. We have the current one shot. The current one shot. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Well, this is why you pay three dollars.
SPEAKER_07This is uh yeah, to get the backdoor pilot to bull house to steal the. No one take that. No one take the bull house, it's gonna take off.
SPEAKER_09That's what I call the bull house is everything, okay.
SPEAKER_04I was gonna say the the flight attendant at the black back of the plane. Calls it bullhouse backhouse pilot or back.
SPEAKER_07What?
SPEAKER_04I'll call it.
SPEAKER_07Oh, you're not getting me in the back pilot. That's a okay, got it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're not gonna get me in the back room, Spencer.
SPEAKER_07Stop saying that.
SPEAKER_09Not the mile high club I want to join.
SPEAKER_06There was one part of the episode, and I know that we're not talking about this episode. It's the episode that aired last week. Uh, but there was one part in that episode where I was like, this got really dark.
SPEAKER_07Um I think it's really fun that Sarah's character uh had a fake accent. Well, also had a negative relationship with orphans.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. You were like, you were like let's actively anti-orphan.
SPEAKER_07There's two ways you can be orphan or anti-orphan. Those are the two genders. Like it or not, libs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Orphan or are you an or fan or an or hater.
SPEAKER_07Hater. Or hater.
SPEAKER_04Or hater. Yeah, exactly. That's that's or faux. Or fan or faux. Or fan or foe. Uh yeah, man. Hell yeah. Yeah. You don't even have to say or a second time. It's just or fan or faux. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Oh.
SPEAKER_04And that's that's guys.
SPEAKER_09You could be a willem.
SPEAKER_05Guys, this right here is a brainstorming workshop. Well, how you're freaking pencil.
SPEAKER_09I've actually got warming up right now.
SPEAKER_0760 page screenplay. I was hoping we could break.
SPEAKER_09It's called Bull House.
SPEAKER_04I got a sketch pitch and it might be a full episode.
SPEAKER_09Um, yeah. I I have to say, it was so fun to be like DMing this for the first time ever. Uh, just how like getting a peek into kind of like what Spencer does on a day-to-day basis, and like I DM every day. Every day. He's thinking about it every day. I know. He has to lock his phone in a box so he can do it. But he does. Um but doing that and trying to prepare for everything, and then just like it is just completely off to the races, and it was just so fun. I think you guys did an amazing job with I think you did a fucking incredible job.
SPEAKER_07I totally agree. Like, thank you. I forgot that this is really impressed to talk back for this.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, we haven't waited from the beginning. Yes. Yeah, we haven't gotten the chance to say big rows. Huge job, Matt.
SPEAKER_07Like fantastic. The the plotting was so good, the voices were so good, the encounters were so fun. Yes. Like every element.
SPEAKER_05The way you let us is great.
SPEAKER_07You let us, but you also let us be. You let us, but you also let us play.
SPEAKER_04Born or foe, let us let us. Exactly.
SPEAKER_07Like you you let us get into those little like tiffs and you let me eat a guy. Yeah. Like it's yeah.
SPEAKER_09I mean, uh, me letting you guys uh like we let you guys turn it into a two-parter. Like that was yeah, yeah. Because I mean, like we it was more fun to watch you guys do your thing than like be like, actually, um, we have to do this, you know.
SPEAKER_07It speaks to your, I think, skill as a DM too, that like we had that we were all wanted so bad a part two. Yeah, like that we all so bad wanted to keep playing these characters, keep playing in this world. Everything you did in the revisiting Sirens Perch was so fun. Yeah. It felt both familiar and new. Like it didn't feel like it was like, oh, remember this. It felt like it was like, yeah, there's this, there's also this.
SPEAKER_06It was in the most successful way giving anime time skip vibes. And I that might just be for me and Chloe, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04Even your uh portrayal of the Sirens Purge characters was so fun and interesting because it was so like it wasn't an exact mimic of Spencer doing them. It was like your your take on inhabiting those characters.
SPEAKER_05Like if Martin Shorhop was a real person, this is Matt's impression of Martin Shorehop.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah, and that was really cool to experience. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it was so it was super fun to like go back and re-listen to the early episodes as well to get inspired by it. And um it it was really cool. Um to and like I collaborated with Spencer on being like you know, what's off limits, what's off limits, what's not. And um I think found it like a nice happy medium of being like, let's bring back some some like player favorite characters from the first one. Yeah. Um from the like the first time we went there. Um and yeah, I mean, I think it's uh well thank you guys for for saying all of that. I I was so nervous because it's like You did a great job.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's intimidating.
SPEAKER_07I play in another Matt game tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Except not tomorrow because I'm busy, but that maybe a day after that.
SPEAKER_06As soon as possible. I SRP is my as soon as my schedule is. Well, full house is coming, guys. Full house, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I also really enjoyed the opening sequence. I thought that was such a great way to start the episode. It was like action-packed, we each got our moments, the action like just enough time to um meet everyone, but like the motion of even being on four different carriages was so like delicious to imagine and so easy to imagine, and then to be smacked with the first combat. So we each got to feel out how we all fight. Yeah. In character, I think worked really well. Yeah. So that was really great. I was impressed.
SPEAKER_09Thank you. I really loved that that opening. Um, and it it felt really right. And but you guys like fucking killed it in that first one. Like, there were two other ghouls that were supposed to come. I think you turned out like um kill them in the like the second turn. Like, um, but yeah, that was that was like a really um fun one. And like trying to balance fights for the first time was cool. Like trying to put little breadcrumb clues into like what you guys are dealing with because it's like obviously it's a one-shot. It's like a little bit of like a mystery. It's gonna like one of the people that you meet is going to be.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, one of the four people you meet.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07One of many of whom are familiar characters. Nail foot. It's not gonna be banjo.
SPEAKER_04It's not gonna be the one kind of vague kind of doctor person we're going to see that we don't know much about, that has a mysterious past and a questionable fast.
SPEAKER_06Well, it was definitely one of those things where it's like, I see the red flags, I'm choosing to ignore them for this procedure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that was very fun to come up with like reasons that our characters were still like absolutely, but no, we're still here.
SPEAKER_09Like I had the biggest like gulp uh thing ever because I like said, you know, when I introduced like Dr. Frieden, Spencer goes, someone put it into an anagram. And like Yeah, I'm not sure. But the thing is, is you didn't give us his first name, which is what completes Until you got the the box which said Dr. Costner Frieden, which does that's true, that's true, turn into Frankenstein, Dr.
SPEAKER_07Frankenstein's monster. Frankenstein's a monster.
SPEAKER_09No, it does turn into Dr. Frankenstein, Dr.
SPEAKER_07Frankenstein.
SPEAKER_04Because he's the true monster.
SPEAKER_09It's Frieden, not Dr. Minority. What a unique take.
SPEAKER_06That was unnecessary.
SPEAKER_05I actually think I was kind of fucked up how that monster was smashing things.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. It's cool of a man to play God, but it's not cool of a monster to freak out about.
SPEAKER_04They should be that cool for Shane to shame me for having a take on literature.
SPEAKER_07Sorry. Uh literature written by a woman, might I say. I can barely read.
SPEAKER_06I can barely read, and I'm not one to be talking. I had also listened to audiobooks through in order to read. Matt, go ahead.
SPEAKER_09I had I had also asked you guys, like, in your prep to be like, what's your favorite like physical feature about your own?
SPEAKER_04Oh, you didn't be suspicious at all. No.
SPEAKER_09And I would like regret it now because not that not that it like ended up being bad, but I wish I had just like forced on you guys of being like, oh, this is what this is your like and just did it without like blind blindsiding you and being like, Yeah, I could have had uh Chiron be like, Yeah, I know you want to get your your hands done or something.
SPEAKER_04That's that improv like it was it was nice to be able to do it. Giving two things versus, but yeah, give other people.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think that it didn't to me it didn't seem like a mystery as to who the bad guy was. Like I didn't know. Yeah, it was why. Right. It was like, yeah, let's keep walking to this trap because it's fun to see what springs along the way.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. It's like it's like in the Medusa episodes of the main feed where it's like pretty immediately you're like, okay, that's probably the bad guy. Yeah. But then it's just like it's fun to spend the time to investigate. And like that's what you gave us was to room to investigate and explore.
SPEAKER_06I never let Banjo off the hook though.
SPEAKER_05I also think that like when one shots have like a bit more of a meta aspect to them. We're like, we know we're not gonna be with these with these characters for very long. Like we know that this is a story, yeah. It's gonna have like, you know, we know that there's gonna be an immediate problem. Yeah. And, you know, we're not gonna waste time being like, oh, well, maybe it's okay. Yeah, everything's fine. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Especially, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09I'm sorry. I just blacked out thinking about Bullhouse.
SPEAKER_07You and you and me both, brother.
SPEAKER_09It's gonna be a fraternity like hell week.
SPEAKER_05This is gonna be like he didn't rivalry, but we'll all like it. It's it's like off campus.
SPEAKER_09God willing. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I should be locked in, but I just got I was like, you know, every fraternity has like their final week of pledging where you have to do all of this stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we all know that. Of course.
SPEAKER_07What if here's an idea? What if we do bull house for back to school season? We do bull house in like August or like September. We release it when Shane and I are in Edinburgh.
SPEAKER_08Yes, Bull House.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I can't wait to throw that in there.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, we release Irish.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Um, maybe they're cool. Um maybe. Uh another, sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_06I was gonna say, I actually do have a bud on a thing we were talking about, and I thought, ooh, that's a bud. Um, and then it got washed away. But I'm gonna bring us back to that. Um, and it's not bullhouse. It's uh whenever we were talking about all the little things that Spencer put as off limits, because I was like, oh, it's coming back around. I like, well, there's there's one theory, and Spencer, you can say as much or as little as you want.
SPEAKER_04Oh, as in we're gonna be the main feel be back in Siren's person.
SPEAKER_06There's one theory of like, oh, these are just like sacred, please don't change these things. Like I care about them. But then it's like things of like, what's Amos up to? Where is he? How is he?
SPEAKER_05He was on vacation.
SPEAKER_06He was on vacation, but how's he gonna come according to Matt? But if Amos was off limits, like how's he coming back to us?
SPEAKER_05Like, there's some buds in there of just like Patch has to go back to get the money from his from Nailfoot.
SPEAKER_07We gave Nailfoot how many thousands. Right, we got a couple thousand. Let's talk about that. That was great.
SPEAKER_09I had to hook Patch up.
SPEAKER_00That was so great.
SPEAKER_07See, when you were like, I'm gonna do it in Siren's Perch, I was like, Well, surely he's not gonna do anything that's like outside of game.
SPEAKER_09That was also not not an intentional thing at all.
SPEAKER_02It was like That was the best part of shopping.
SPEAKER_09So funny. Let me turn it. Into a game somehow because I I love I tried to put in the things that I love about a one-shot into this one, which is like, or just like D in in general. Like, I love shopping in DD.
SPEAKER_04I would say, ladies and gentlemen and people, Matt loves shopping.
SPEAKER_09I love shopping. I love even though in that in our last main field episode, I stood back. I let you guys shop first. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You got excited about that. I think I shopped first, though.
SPEAKER_06I usually, I usually don't like shopping, and I was enticed by some uh some of the weapons that Spencer was bringing. What could it be?
SPEAKER_07The I loved I just the the raw hoot spot of being like, yeah, you guys have infinite money. You can give as much of them as you want to the characters in the main game. Spencer's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_09Can I can I tell you? You made that decision.
SPEAKER_07What?
SPEAKER_09You all made that decision. Oh, yeah. To keep playing.
SPEAKER_07No, we did. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_0550% of it is going to Nailfoot.
SPEAKER_06I was gonna say Spencer can also, well, there's Nailfoot's also getting kidnapped. I was gonna say I bet you can do whatever he wants to Nailfoot to do whatever he wants without.
SPEAKER_04Someone overheard Nailfoot get so rich and now he is a target because now you know where Amazon is. He won the lottery and his life has been ruined because of it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Yeah. As far as off limits, like the main thing was like, I didn't want Facilia to be there just because I was like, well, that's someone's like emotional like core.
SPEAKER_09That was like also like when Spencer said that I was like, never was intending to do that.
SPEAKER_05Umilia's working the corner.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07What did you say? Yikes. Facilia's working the corner. In what way that's the emotional core.
SPEAKER_01There are some things that we joke about and there are some things we don't.
SPEAKER_07Cecilia comes to Lucy.
SPEAKER_01I mean, let's not say, yeah, her and your business partners.
SPEAKER_07Let's not shame sex workers, Sarah.
SPEAKER_05No, we're not. She's selling her new craft that she's making on the corner. Okay. Is what I meant. Yeah. Um crafts are her body.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_09But I do, I do think Amos was another one. Amos was another one that Spencer was initially like, uh, probably don't. And then I was like, okay, I won't. And then he was like, actually, you totally can. And I was like, I've already come up with banjo. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So it's like my thing, my thing with him at first was like, well, like, you guys have such a distinct emotional, like, fun relationship to him that I was like, uh, I want to be able to bring him back and have him be unchanged. I think then pretty quickly in hindsight, I was like, actually, it would be really fun to see him from other characters' perspective, especially if they like him.
SPEAKER_06Oh, they'd be fawning over him. Oh my god. That was my thought. I was like, we run into eight.
SPEAKER_07I was gonna be regretful for putting in this behind. I was like, it would have been so funny to be like, what ooh? Oh, they love Vaughn for the colour. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09The Holly Dogs. It was fun to put in like little Easter eggs. And it was fun when you guys like picked up on them immediately when it was like, I think I was describing the the graveyard, and I was like, Yeah, there's four recent, like recently done. Oh, yeah, yeah. The servoses. A dog bowl. I think like Shane even said servos before like I said it. I was like, yeah, shelf and bilfinet, Urulay, and Barclay.
SPEAKER_07Didn't Barklick have a dog bowl? And didn't Sarah take it or something? Didn't someone like take something off of one of their graves? No, no, no. I put no potions.
SPEAKER_05Lucy has Barclay's dog dog bowl because she stole it. That's right. That's her.
SPEAKER_07That's that was really fun.
SPEAKER_05And it was in the orphanage when it blew up. Yes. Along with um her her lock of hair.
SPEAKER_04Myrna? Mir Myrna? Merley. Merly Chrysanthin. Early's hair.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. Um, it's in the dog bowl.
SPEAKER_04I love it. Because there's water in the dog bowl.
SPEAKER_07I love the drinks you came up with.
SPEAKER_09Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, I I have them here.
SPEAKER_07Can you give us like a couple of things? I remember it sounded good.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. So I spent way too much time. So the truth is, this was not intended, obviously, dear listener, to be uh two shot. But then when it we decided, okay, we've done way too much for one session. I was like, okay, I'll add like an extra thing. Initially, it was just going to be shopping and then you guys going into the final k the final combat. Um, but then I was like, okay, it would be funny to like actually put a face to uh like Nailfoot's mom wife mom. And then can I tell you I was like, that part I did not like.
SPEAKER_05You know, hey, you know what you can call her? His old lady.
SPEAKER_09His old lady works both ways. And I would when I came up with the joke of being like, oh, you've met my husband, he's my baby. I love him so much. Everyone cringed, and I loved it because it's just so fucking funny to me.
SPEAKER_04But I have Beef Spencer.
SPEAKER_06Evil. I didn't do that.
SPEAKER_04You did. You started the whole thing. Episode one.
SPEAKER_06Literally episode one. Crazy.
SPEAKER_07And we were so proud of it too. Well, because the idea of a down on his luck edit, like an Oedipus who doesn't become the king of thieves, he just has a bad life with his mom.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but unfortunately, that character because he wasn't supposed to survive, was he? No.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, we all love him. Oh, that's right. Yeah. He was gonna be a bit player who comes in, dies.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and unfortunately, we live with him now.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_09That's true. And he's sure it's Janice's fault if he saved his life. But yeah, the yeah, I I named her Suzy, and I think I described her as ordinary. Um my god, really? Yeah. I have an aunt, Susie. I love her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Um, but yeah, here we are. Hi, Susie. This was this was the menu. It was uh Faraka Feast, which is a full Elsparian breakfast. Love breakfast. Perforosis' forged steak and eggs. I want that. Heliad's sun-dried tomato BLT.
SPEAKER_02That was the good one. Really good.
SPEAKER_09Karenos' storm tuna salad sandwich.
SPEAKER_02That's a good tuna salad.
SPEAKER_09Eroas' Victory Garden Salad, Clothus' Fate Egg Plate. How will we, how we, how will we, how will we prepare them? Only she knows.
SPEAKER_05That's great.
SPEAKER_09Uh the Nylia breakfast quesadilla.
SPEAKER_05Yum.
SPEAKER_09The Afara Lobstara roll.
SPEAKER_05Yep. That's what we think a lot of us ordered. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Uh Erebos Pantyhose, which is a play on Ropa Vieja, which is a Cuban dish.
SPEAKER_06That has so many layers to it.
SPEAKER_07Some of them.
SPEAKER_09It's the best one. Uh the Phoenix short stack, and then the That's a lot of pancakes doll stack. That's a lot of pancakes.
SPEAKER_06That's a lot of pancakes.
SPEAKER_09And then the Mogus burger, which I thought also was funny because it's like, what else would it be?
SPEAKER_07It would have to be like a really bloody nasty burger.
SPEAKER_05That's a great menu. I want it. I'd eat at that point every day.
SPEAKER_06That's a very balanced, like, let's open a restaurant.
SPEAKER_07We do our uh Lower East Side pop-up.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh! Come to Patch's game shop.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05At least we should just start making her.
SPEAKER_07Go upstairs to the bullhouse.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Bullhouse is brought to you by Bull House. It's filmed in front of a live studio audience.
SPEAKER_05The paperboy. Even in TV.
SPEAKER_07Have you guys heard Carly Ray Jepsen sing that? No. No, but I love Carly Ray Jepsen.
SPEAKER_05I'm glad that she's doing well.
SPEAKER_07Like picture her singing. Like, well, it not picture, I guess.
SPEAKER_05Picture with your ears. Ear picture, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Imagery can be sound.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Everyone please welcome Carly Ray Jepsen. Hey guys, it's me. Everywhere here.
SPEAKER_09CRJ.
SPEAKER_03See you later.
SPEAKER_09But yeah, and then the other part was I introduced I introduced Ace Hotel in Carlton St. Regis because I wanted to make people who were worse than you were to try and turn it. And then I but then I I I needled uh cartel in the right uh area, which was talking shit about Liars Junction.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. That was fun.
SPEAKER_09Um but yeah, and Spencer, you were like, Can I and they had their boss Mary Ott, and you're like, I want to use her, which I hope you do.
SPEAKER_07I don't know when, but it was like it was set up that like she's actively gonna ruin siren, like try to gentrify siren's perch. So I was like, well, ultimately someone has to kill her so that next time the party comes with sirens perch.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, to be fair, I think only one of them survived. I think it was just her uh I think it was just a ace hotel who survived.
SPEAKER_07So I I think it'll be I don't know where, I don't know when. I feel like it'll probably be she'll be like a suspect in one of the murder mysteries. Perfect. But like she's gotta come up.
SPEAKER_05I suspect her, it's her. Guys remember that for the next mystery. Chloe called it first.
SPEAKER_09She's just gonna be a red herring. Um and then yeah, you guys went on to the final combat, which obviously you knew it was hard was gonna happen. Uh yeah, I tried I tried to balance it by having the flesh golem be blind and uh and have like no ears.
SPEAKER_05She was attacking with disadvantage.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so it was like but when she did hit, she like hit hard.
SPEAKER_05Well, so did the doctor. He had those necrotic scalpels that hit for like 25 damage.
SPEAKER_09And like the legendary actions were fun to play with. But yeah, I I feel like it was like ended up being really ended up being very balanced in in in like a very hard way. But yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Was that our first time? The fact I've never run uh legendary actions, so the fact that you in your first go of it was like, we're gonna have a boss with legendary actions. Have you ever done legendary actions? Have we had any bosses with legendary actions yet? Or like Lair actions.
SPEAKER_07You've had Lair actions. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06That's what I assume this was.
SPEAKER_07Don't think you've had legendary actions yet.
SPEAKER_09Okay. This is also an uh What about that spider?
SPEAKER_07Did not just naming like a racing thingy boss.
SPEAKER_05What about the Kuwa in episode two?
SPEAKER_07Did he have a um La Spildor might have had he might have, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that was that might have been his sacrifice.
SPEAKER_09La Spildor. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That first one off.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, he was manipulating a lot of sharks.
SPEAKER_04We got caught in that whirlpool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09He was also killing a lot of people. Oh my god, and he touched Lucy's bubble and it started to fill out.
SPEAKER_04That was so scary. Yeah, that was scary.
SPEAKER_09Um what a fun time. But yeah, balance balancing that, I think I'm so happy how it ended up with you guys. Like it also like you had Chiron who ended up being able to go around and steal people.
SPEAKER_07Yes, the virus firing Chiron was so fun.
SPEAKER_05I mean, we were giving shit Chiron shit from the beginning. Like, why did you book us this shitty hotel? You didn't do any research.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, even though he is our boss.
SPEAKER_04And then, like, yeah, to bring the mother into the fold as another crazy. We own our own masters.
SPEAKER_07The bad guy.
SPEAKER_04No, Chiron is.
SPEAKER_07It's so fun when you're playing rotten little characters to hate the most normal person around you.
SPEAKER_05The bad guy never thinks you're the bad guy. It's true.
SPEAKER_07Exactly. Like we we have to dislike Chiron because I think if we don't dislike Chiron as characters, then we suck. Then we dislike ourselves.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_07Which we probably also do.
SPEAKER_04But like Well, that's because we're by lashing out at him, it's because we hate ourselves. Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_07Like we, if we thought he was good, we would realize to some extent that we are not like him and we are bad.
SPEAKER_04There was some Steve Spencer.
SPEAKER_09Thank you. There was some like show that you guys came up with during it that I said Chiron was gonna go work on. It was like a Brady's bunch. It wasn't Bull House. And please pronounce it the right house.
SPEAKER_07Bull House, very nice. Um Borat for you in 2027. I was saying listening to this next year.
SPEAKER_09I did feel, I did feel um the one the last thing I'll say just about this final encounter, because I think it it was it was challenging, but also I think you guys did a great job. Was I when I was writing like the like bad guy says his final things, like before you fight thing, I felt like I went a little too far with it where I was like, like I have I have my notes up, and it says, one is never born an orphan, one is made one when their mother decides to die during childbirth.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07I think you did say that. I did, yeah, and I was like, gosh, that's so hard. And then he said, I Matt, agree with this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09No, this is this is um, these are my own thoughts and that's a journal you're looking at right now. Yeah, and they're and then their father decides he's too gr grief sticking to look upon you that they send you a way to live without a mother's love.
SPEAKER_05That sounds like a personal issue.
SPEAKER_06It's one of those things where no- He was projecting.
SPEAKER_05Are you talking to Lucy?
SPEAKER_06You can have so funny. You can have such a dark ending because when you have such selfish characters, yeah, and we're like, we don't care. We were like, Yeah, we were like, we just don't care about that. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it was it was so fun because it was it, it it really is like you. My experience was okay, I'm gonna write this story for my friends to fuck around with, and then watching you guys fuck around with it.
SPEAKER_00And we did.
SPEAKER_09And you guys you threaded a beautiful needle, I think. It was so fun.
SPEAKER_07You made a beautiful needle.
SPEAKER_09Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I feel like we had such a fun time playing with character growth that wasn't actually character growth. Like it had like enough, yeah. Like we had those like cut moments where we were like, okay, this is how I truly feel fun, which felt like character development, but actually wasn't like that's my favorite.
SPEAKER_09That's my favorite mechanic that I came up with was the the cut. And then you give a talking head for the two cents with your hands.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09If you're it was so fun, and watching you guys watching you guys do that was really fun. I think you guys like just got the you you had it. There was also one other mechanic that I shoehorned in at the very end, which was uh uh Cartella because you were a tinkerer of being able to turn the thing into a bomb. Yeah, that was a good one. Which ended up, I think, killing Dr. Frieden. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It did a good I think it like bla uh did like a huge amount of damage, at the very least.
SPEAKER_06I feel like initially I screwed it up.
SPEAKER_09No, I screwed it up. Oh. Because I had I had you like roll to hit instead of rolling the instead of just rolling the.
SPEAKER_04Shane, I did really love all of the times that you created a gun that wasn't a gun. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Not a gun.
SPEAKER_00That was really funny.
SPEAKER_06Except I also think it's funny that Dr. Holly got a real gun.
SPEAKER_05Yes, and she did not use it.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_05Uh, and I I also love Spencer anytime we play one of these one shots. Spencer is always the one who's like, okay, but we should have some character development. So before we go into this final battle, girls.
SPEAKER_07Well, no, that was not even me do doing that, it was me thinking that the character like I wanted the character is being aware. Yeah, I wanted Dorianna to be like I was a little bit like, I want to do something to like transform by the end of the episode. But then I was like, I want it to be fake and I want it to be Doriana doing it. That's just uh and it was.
SPEAKER_09I think it was love having Spencer be a player character because it's like mommy's night out, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03And like But mommy can't fully like forget about her kids. She doesn't fully log off her phone.
SPEAKER_06Well, it's it's and it's funny because Spencer does play either like Spencer was the most senior housewife and was the mother. Yes. That's not on purpose.
SPEAKER_05Big mama energy. He's gonna be the the den father of full house. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_07He's the like like my name's like Bluto, and I've been there for like 12 years, and I'm like the oldest, the oldest.
SPEAKER_04One wrangling everybody else.
SPEAKER_07Not wrangling. No. No, he's the problem. He's the problem. You say, but if I Pluto's the one who's Pluto's the rex. Drilling a hole in the stables to look at them horses.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_07What? Well, because the thing that I thought of, I was like, well, he wouldn't do that. And then I was like, look at the girls.
SPEAKER_01No, that's bad. Look at the horses.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, just actually look at horses.
SPEAKER_09I like to see the tails. That's bad. Um, yeah. It invented for bullhouse things. It's better. Bullhouse is it's coming. It's coming to a feedback. Bullhouse is coming.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Oh, I feel like maybe one of the one of the brothers of Bull House's mother was on Royal House or Real Housewives of Narcissus, obviously.
SPEAKER_07It's one of Dr. Holly's.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, guys, my mom's calling.
SPEAKER_08She makes me call it Dr. Holly.
SPEAKER_04She makes me call it my mom.
SPEAKER_06I can't.
SPEAKER_01I stay with her for like a night. Right?
SPEAKER_06And she makes me call her Dr. Holly Birchangelo's.
SPEAKER_01Mom.
SPEAKER_07Mom, stop talking about how much happy sex you and you and other mom had.
SPEAKER_05I picked her mom. I had to call her mom, comma, Dr. Bolly. Dr. Holly Birch Angelos. I'm just gonna watch. Just Mom MD.
SPEAKER_09I'm gonna watch Animal House, like Van Wilder. I'm gonna watch like a bunch of movies that's gonna come out with something.
SPEAKER_07And then you're gonna you're gonna be worth hanging out with for a few weeks while you're watching.
SPEAKER_09Oh, certainly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're gonna regress a couple years. I'm just gonna go back to my days at Ohio State.
SPEAKER_07Nice. Wow, that was locked in. No, it wasn't. Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_05Well, any other cut it off?
SPEAKER_06Where'd everyone can I get a quick reminder on how everybody ended, speaking of character growth? Because Cartella um took her wraps off. Cartella took her wraps off and decided to take over the mob, like publicly take over a criminal organization.
SPEAKER_01That's true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Which is not growth. It's like growth in the wrong direction.
SPEAKER_09Have you seen um uh the HBO um uh penguin series? No. It's very much like the the character, one of the characters in it. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_06It's also the one with Colin Fred Wings? The Penguins? It's also kind of like um I just watched No, I didn't just watch this. It's also kind of like Daredevil the original, where Kingpin's wife kind of takes over.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And it's also like um no, I can't do that. I'm not gonna say this one because it's spoilers. Um Big Mistakes.
SPEAKER_07I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_06Which I would just say that.
SPEAKER_07It's uh I don't think anyone is watching Big Mistakes.
SPEAKER_06You should. It's good. Um it's uh um Thank you for showing me. It's Daniel Levy's new show.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, okay, but then don't tell me because I do want to watch it.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_09Kristen Miliati is the Oh I love her. She's great. Yeah. I saw her in my grocery store a couple weeks ago. And did I text you about that? I don't know if you text me about it. It was like a couple months ago. I don't short.
SPEAKER_05I don't know what I all of them are so small. Yeah. All actors are short. So small. Um, I don't know what I said for Dr. Holly, but I think she probably will do another season with the girls. Um, and she's gonna go back to to her teaching in the off season. She has a class to teach.
SPEAKER_07Is she gonna go back to her wife? Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06I would absolutely do another uh episode with Cartella. So like that's a bud. Let's say there's a bud, I think we would all return to these characters happily.
SPEAKER_04I think um uh Bertie Nobles, aka Vincendia Visconde. I think she thanks to her her girls, her sisters, I think has more confidence and self-confidence than she had in the beginning of the um of the two shots.
SPEAKER_07Which we gave her by yelling at her.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think she because she yelled back. She learned how to yell back. Yeah, exactly. So I think she's going to take a more active role in her charities and her patronages.
SPEAKER_07And um and when you say charities, are you referring to the child factory?
SPEAKER_04Yes. No, no, I think she's going to take a more active role in the management of um uh the child uh labor factories. The charity where they make chairs. Yeah, child labor. Yeah, exactly. Um, and um will take a more active role in covering up the misdeeds of her husband's family's past.
SPEAKER_07There you go. And I think Dorian's gonna just keep eating people.
SPEAKER_04Do you think she's gonna take do another reality TV show?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I think I think every season. Every episode, yes, or like every new Real Housewife story, I want her to come back having one or lost another reality show.
SPEAKER_04Like I want her to come back having done chopped and being a different doppelganger or the same doppelganger that now is just like that now is just one survivor.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. She should be on like the challenge or one of those like really physical.
SPEAKER_04Or like a like a finding loved one.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_04The Golden Bachelorette. Yes.
SPEAKER_05Golden, that's the same. And at the end, she eats her husband. That's what they call him. I know. But it's shady to Doriana.
SPEAKER_07Oh. Wow. Yeah, wait.
SPEAKER_05No, the golden bachelorette.
SPEAKER_04I know, but I better like that. Dorian pulls out a white golden. She'd be like golden. How old is she? 50?
SPEAKER_07Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh, is she?
SPEAKER_07She can be golden.
SPEAKER_05I don't think Dr. Holly thinks she needs to change in any way after this experience.
SPEAKER_07But all the girls are telling her to.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They're all like like it's just so great how you made things right with your spouse. We just we really love that and appreciate that.
SPEAKER_09It's great TV. You guys did a great job. You did a great job.
SPEAKER_07No more time for Matt.
SPEAKER_09Thank you.
SPEAKER_04We love Matt. We do.
SPEAKER_07Um Thank you so much for listening.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I hope you enjoyed uh part one and two of Royal Housewives. Royal. Why do I keep saying Royal Housewives?
SPEAKER_05Because you're Royal. Because you're Royal. That's true.
SPEAKER_04Koreal Housewives of Narcissus. Housewives of Narcissism.
SPEAKER_07We let us know if you like these listening to one-shots because we like doing them. We think they're very fun.
SPEAKER_04And the more you beg us for bull house, the more likely we are to do it. We're on the fence right now, but if you if you beg us, as I can tell, we're very on the fence. Is this going on the main feed?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_07No, okay, never mind.
SPEAKER_09Can I just say something? I don't give a fuck whether you want it or not. It's happening.
SPEAKER_05So either watch out, positive, or watch out. Scared.
SPEAKER_07Exactly. On that note, thank you so much for listening. Thank you.