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Halloween 1978
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Welcome to episode 3 of I might watch that later. In this episode we discuss John Carpenter’s Halloween. Released in October of 1978. Starring Jamie Lee Curtis, Donald Pleasence, Nancy Kyes, P.J. Soles, Kyle Richards, Brian Andrews, Charles Cyphers and Nick Castle.
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Welcome to episode three of I Might Watch That Later. Today we're discussing 1978 John Carpenter's Halloween starring Jamie Lee Curtis, Donald Pleasance, and that's pretty much it. Because I don't know who else is in this movie. I don't know their name. PJ Soles. PJ Soles. Is she totally yes? So a basic quick summary of the movie. 15 years after murdering his sister on Halloween night, Michael Myers escapes from a mental hospital and returns to the small town of Haddonville, Illinois, to kill again. The opening of this movie, iconic. We get young Michael Myers. He's being a little peeping Tom on his sister. She's trying to hook up with I don't know if we ever get his name. Same. So we get the POV of young Michael kind of wandering around outside. Then he makes his way into the kitchen, gets a butcher knife. Uh the boyfriend does get out in this original movie. He does not become a victim. Michael then goes upstairs, sees a clown mask, puts it on, and proceeds to penetrate his sister with the knife. Stabs her in the tits.
SPEAKER_03Then goes how many times? I believe Michael stabs his sister in the tits nine times.
SPEAKER_07He then goes outside right as his parents pull up, and we get this part has always bothered me. That they're just standing around for like 25 seconds, just staring at him, doing nothing.
SPEAKER_03I know. He comes out with a bloody knife, and they're just staring at him for like a minute straight instead of running in the house, check on their other kid who's laying there naked and dead.
SPEAKER_07She's just looking at him like, what'd you do now, young man? He just goes, Michael? Michael.
SPEAKER_03But I mean, that's that's a sick. If you're watching this for the first time, you see a see the mask finally get pulled off. It's just a little boy. You can't believe a little kid just did this to his sister. See, I think like that obviously back, sorry. Oh, I'm just saying that would have been shocking to see in 1978 sitting in the movie theater.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's what I was gonna allude to as well. I'm sure it was way more different experience than that in the 70s than somebody that would be sitting down to watch this for the first time today. What do we get next?
SPEAKER_03We jump to October 30th, 1978, at Smith's Grove. It's a rainy night, and Dr. Loomis and Nurse Marion are in the car talking. Uh, Loomis does say Michael hasn't said a word in 15 years. We get the nurse lighting up a sig with a matchbook that says the rabbit in red. Loomis sees that, and it's something you gotta remember.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it definitely comes back. They approach the gate, and there's inmates, patients, whatever they are, loose roaming around everywhere. Uh Loomis tells nurse H2O not to underestimate Michael. Michael then breaks the driver's side window with a wrench taped to his. Yeah, you can clearly see that wrench. Right. Uh Michael then slips into the car like a wet, slimy shape of evil, and somehow he just drives off. Michael knows how to drive a car.
SPEAKER_03The evil is gone from here.
SPEAKER_07He's gone. And then we get probably the most iconic shot of the movie, at least to my eyes. The street with the leaves falling on the ground, and then we get the Haddonfield in that white font followed by uh telling us it is Halloween.
SPEAKER_03We get another uh classic John Carpenter score when it's showing Halloween and Haddonfield.
SPEAKER_07That the score might be just as iconic as this movie.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I'm pretty sure we've got the main score like two or three times already in this movie.
SPEAKER_07Yep. I'd put it up there with something like Star Wars, where you even if you're not familiar with the movie, you know what that music is. Oh, yeah. We get Lori leaving for school as her dad is leaving for work, and then he requests that she drops the keys to the former Meyer residence under the mat. We then meet Tommy Doyle, who Lori babysits, and they walk to the Myers residence. Lori drops the keys, and Michael is inside the house.
SPEAKER_03So we hear Michael breathing as Lori walks up to the door to put the key under the mat, and we see his head appear in the shot as we get the stinger. All right, so Tommy and Lori split up, and we get Lori singing that little song. I wish I had you all alone. You know the rest? Nope. Just the two of us. Pretty sure Jamie Lee Curtis, yeah. I'm pretty sure she freestyled that song, too. Like that was right off the dome. Damn. All right. We then when Lori's walking away singing, we get Michael, we get a like behind-the-shoulder shot of Michael just watching her. Very creepy. Oh, yeah. And then this is when we get we cut to Loomis talking to Dr. Wynne. It seems like Dr. Wynne is blaming Loomis for Michael escaping, uh, just because he was as patient. And uh, we get Wynne saying Loomis should have told somebody. Loomis is yelling at him, like he's saying, I told everybody. Nobody listened. Loomis tells Wynne to get back on the phone, tell them who walked out of there last night, and tell them exactly where he's going. Says Haddonfield is 150 miles away. He says he can't even drive a car. You want to finish the wanna finish the line?
SPEAKER_07Something along the lines of he was doing just fine at it last night.
SPEAKER_03He was doing very well last night. I was kind of like. Maybe someone around here gave him lessons. When we find all this out in Halloween 6.
SPEAKER_07I was about to say, when does come back?
SPEAKER_03The weirdest character to ever come back, dude.
SPEAKER_07And to make him such a prominent figure like they do later in the series.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's in this movie for what 30 seconds. If that, yeah. It's like uh Marco in Scream 7. Don't get me started. That's for another another night.
SPEAKER_07And then what do we cut to? Is it we go back to the school?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Lori, or it's Lori sitting in the class, back of the classroom, as they're talking about fate. Another idea. Lori looks out, and we once again get another iconic shot of Michael standing behind the station wagon, just staring at her. John Carpenter, you I don't even know what to call this man. Just a horror genius. Just Michael looks creepy as hell. He looks creepy as hell just standing there. Lori answers the teacher, whatever she's talking about, fate. Looks back out the window, Michael's gone. How did Michael know exactly what classroom she was in?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I know. Some people say he can smell her, he just knows where she's at based off scent.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, in the remake, when she drops off whatever to the house, he smells it.
SPEAKER_07And I like this whole time Michael's driving around this city in a stolen car that has the seal of the state on it. I know. He's driving around wearing a mask, dude. You think he takes the mask off when he's by himself? I don't think so. I think that's the whole thing around him, right? Is he has to have that mask on to that's when he disappears and becomes a shape. Yeah, I bet he smells like absolute shit, too.
SPEAKER_03Is he pooping? He's eating.
SPEAKER_07Oh, he's gotta be pooping.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's eating, so he's gotta be shitting. I bet he reeks, did you know he's not wiping? Oh, 100%. No, he doesn't know.
SPEAKER_07No, we're keeping it. Look, you'll get you can go to other movie reviews if you want more serious reviews. Over here, we're talking about if Michael takes a shit and if he's wiping his ass or not.
SPEAKER_03I bet he's piss, he's got piss all over him, shit, all over his ass. All right, so back on track. School's out. We get Tommy walking away from some bullies holding a pumpkin. He's gonna get you, he's gonna get you. Don't you know what happens on Halloween? Boogeyman, boogeyman. They trip Tommy and his pumpkin splits open. Poor kid. Yeah, no, he goes through it. Yeah, we get one of the little shits, runs off, hops down some stairs, and we get the stinger again. And the score playing is Michael grabs the kid. Then we get Michael following along the fence, just stalking Tommy. He gets in the station wagon, follows him. Oh, yeah, dude. Just every it's when I was watching this the other day, it's like every scene, it's like it's everything about this movie's iconic. We get one iconic scene, jump to the next one. It's iconic. Like pretty much every time you see Michael Myers, it's just iconic. We got Michael getting in the station wagon. He's dry, he is driving very well. I just wanted to point that out. He's driving very good. I figured this would be like a stick shift. I I could I don't think it is. No, I'm pretty sure it's an automatic. So he's just walking, or Tommy's walking down the grass. Michael's just driving slowly along, just following Tommy until he finally pulls off. Loom is pulled off on the side of the road. It's a beautiful road, by the way. He's on the payphone trying to convince an officer or somebody that Michael's on his way to Haddonfield. Because I know him. He's telling the officer to prepare for Michael, and if he doesn't, it's his funeral. And then we get Loomis. He notices the truck off to the side of the road with the door open. And then he finds the the gown, right? And laying in the bush. Yeah. Sees the gown and he sees the uh what else does he see? Is that where the rabbit in red comes back? Yep. He what he doesn't notice is the the body laying in the bushes covered in blood, naked.
SPEAKER_07Which off-screen kill, but technically that would be the second body count for the movie.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. We get Lori walking with her friend Linda, played by PJ Soles. Totally. Totally. We then we're we're then introduced to their other friend, Annie. I can't remember her name. They're talking about boys and forgetting books at school. And we get the we see the station wagon turn the corner as the score starts again. Like this every scene the score is playing. Hey, I'm here for it. I love the score. Yeah, it's perfect. Perfect. And this in this movie, this is my favorite score. Like Halloween 2 scores great, but this one is just this is my favorite. The station wagon turns the corner, though, and they're all staring, or Lori's staring at it because she noticed it from earlier. Uh pretty sure Annie says, Hey, isn't that Devon Graham? I don't think so. Michael just rides by staring them down, dude. You remember what Annie says to Michael as he drives by? Hey, jerk, speed kills. Yeah, and you get Michael slamming the brakes. I don't there's no way he heard that from all the way down the street. Maybe he did. It looked like the windows were down. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07Hey, so my daddy's the fucking sheriff. Whatever she says in the remake.
SPEAKER_03I can't wait for the remake, dude. I want I want to just talk about Ronnie. All right. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So we get this character in that movie.
SPEAKER_03Ronnie for sure, yes. We get out of this conversation that Annie's babysitting Lindsay tonight. Lori's babysitting Tommy. They're right across the street from each other. Linda wants to go over to the Wallace's house to fuck Bob tonight. Which I don't Bob has a van.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you just use the van? What'd you get the van for?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's got a ton of space in the bag. And Bob, he looks like he's uh 30, 35 to 40 years old. Bob might be. He don't have his own house. Yeah. This is when the girls are walking home. Uh they they walk Linda to her house. This is when uh when Linda walks up to her door, we get Annie from digging around for something in her purse or something, probably a cigarette. And uh this is when Lori looks up and we get that iconic bush scene. Oh yeah, the shrubs. Yeah, you just get Michael standing behind the bush, just staring right at him, creepy as hell.
SPEAKER_07I've read a lot of stuff online that people that live there are just over people showing up dressed as Michael Myers standing by those bushes.
SPEAKER_03Move, move then.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you gotta know what you're getting into when you buy that house. There's no way you didn't know that it was in this movie.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, people aren't gonna stop showing up. I'm pretty sure people are like ripping part of the bush, or they're ripping the bushes off just to take it away with them.
SPEAKER_07That ain't cool. Don't do that, people.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but these people getting mad that people are constantly showing up. You need to move. This is one of the most iconic movies of all time. Comes with the territory. All right, so Annie then walks up to her house, and we get that sheriff bracket popping up on Lori. Says, uh, you know it's Halloween. I guess everyone's entitled to one good scare, huh?
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna go ahead and say he probably didn't get re-elected a sheriff. This guy is an awful sheriff. You got a break-in at a hardware store, which I'm sure we'll get to. Your daughter rolls up, they're smoking a joint and she rolls the window down. You don't smell anything at all. Yeah, that's impossible.
SPEAKER_03Like you're a sheriff, dude. You should know what marijuana smells like. Yeah, maybe he did smell it, maybe he's just focused more on the hardware store at this point. Who knows? I don't know.
SPEAKER_07I get maybe turning turning the other cheek because it's your kid, but he gets his he gets his karma later in the movie. Did you say he gets his karma later on in the movie? Yeah, I mean, R.I.P. to Annie, his daughter dies. Maybe if he would have stopped her from smoking weed riding around town, well, too. This is true, and she broke one of the rules of horror, but I guess her staying a virgin is what keeps her alive in this movie. True.
SPEAKER_03All right, then we this is when we get Lori. She gets to her house, she hears something, she goes to look. It this part, there's little kids trick-or-treating. It's probably not even 3 p.m.
SPEAKER_07I don't know what it was like in the 70s, but as you know, growing up, trick-or-treating didn't start till what 6 30, 7 o'clock at night?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, when it gets dark pretty much. These kids, the the small kids are probably in elementary school, they're probably not even out of school at this time yet. We we also see more trick-or-treaters later on, like when Annie's or uh when Lori's going to wait on the corner for Annie to pick her up. But Annie did say she'll pick her up at about 6:30. This is when uh Lori walks into her bedroom and uh the window is just wide open. She goes over to shut it and she sees Michael just standing in the bed sheets looking at her.
SPEAKER_07Another iconic, like you said, it's almost every time we see Michael Myers, it is just a moment that is iconic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And then he just disappears out of nowhere. Like, is she did did she actually see him, or is her mind just playing tricks on her because she's been seeing this guy all day?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I guess that would be left up for us to decide. I think she actually sees him.
SPEAKER_03All right, that this is when we get Annie calling uh right after she sees Michael, disappears. She slams the window shut, phone rings, nothing. She hangs up, it rings again instantly. It's Annie. She's saying, uh, why'd you hang up on me? And we get Annie telling Lori that she'll pick her up at 6:30. Lori lays on her bed. I'm assuming she does take a nap for a little bit. We jump to Lori coming out of her house with a pumpkin. She goes and sits on the corner waiting for Annie to pick her up. And then we get the uh the classic Loomis pulling up to the cemetery with the uh what'd you call him the caretaker?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, caretaker, groundskeeper.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we notice uh a headstone missing. We uh we get the caretaker saying that's Judith Myers' grave, and we get Loomis with the iconic line, He came home. It's damn kids. Why do they do it? How would a kid how much you think that headstone weigh? I don't know, dude. There had to be a couple of them. Well, later on in the movie we get uh brackets saying that what was stolen from the hardware store, some rope, uh some knives, and a mask. You think Michael used the rope to like tie around the hitch of the station wagon and just yank that headstone out of the ground? It's very possible. And then what did he drag it all the way to Wallace house?
SPEAKER_07Drug it.
SPEAKER_03Or does it get out and pick it up?
SPEAKER_07Do we ever see the rope in the movie?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. When I was a kid, I thought he maybe he used the rope to like hang Bob later on in the closet or wherever he's hanging upside down from. I don't know. We never see the rope. I think they put a little nod to it in Halloween Kills. The flashback, I think uh Michael's like pops out on that cop and he's holding a rope and he's trumping a weapon. You're right. Good catch. This is when we get Lori and Annie smoking a joint. When I was a kid, I thought it was a cigarette. Because it I think the paper is like yellow. I always thought like it looked like a cigarette butt or something.
SPEAKER_07Is it confirmed that it is a joint? Maybe it is a cigarette.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I think so. Cause uh after they talked to Sheriff Brackett, uh Annie's saying, You think he smelled it? Or Lori says uh he had to have smelled it. And Annie's like, he's clueless, he didn't smell anything.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'd say the way they're acting, you wouldn't really act like that with a cigarette. I mean, I guess if your parents didn't know you smoked, and you might freak out a little bit, but I think you'd freak out way more if you're smoking a joint and all of a sudden you roll up on one of your parents.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and it's it's it was the 70s, dude. Everybody was smoking joints back then. This is when we hear the alarm going off at the hardware store. Brackett says somebody broke in, stole a Halloween mask, a rope, and a couple of knives. Um this guy, I think he's he sounds a little Canadian. The the alarm's been going off. It's the alarm been going off since 7 a.m. Right now it's it's 6:30 because Annie said she'd be there to pick her up at 6:30. Michael, it showed Michael standing at outside Lori's school. He also had it uh, yeah, like has this alarm just been going off all day? And then like another, like I've always liked this line. I say this line probably anytime I'm running late or something. Uh Sheriff Brackett tells Annie, Aren't you gonna be late? She said, What? The alarm shuts off. He goes, I said, Aren't you gonna be late? He shouts too. He shouts. And I just say I meant to say this earlier. Annie, Linda, pretty much everybody in this movie, the acting is dog shit.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's better than a nightmare on Elm Street, I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_07I don't know about that. Nightmare. Nightmares pretty bad. So when they roll off, is it does Loomis pull up and he barely misses Michael behind him turning or something?
SPEAKER_03Yep, we see the station wagon drive. Driving in the background. Well, he's pulled off to the side. Loomis goes up to talk to Brackett, and then Brackett says, Give me 10 minutes. And then Loomis is kind of just standing around looking, and we see the station wagon pulling off right behind him. Damn, Loomis, if you just would have turned your head a second sooner. Yeah. This is uh, and then we get the girls were in the car talking about the dance tomorrow night. Uh we see the station wagon pull right up behind him. He's still tailing him, dude. We get we find out Lori has a thing for Ben Shramer who comes back in the sequel. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. This town, I swear to God. It's playing the iconic score again once we see uh Michael pull up right behind him. And then this part has always uh bothered me. It's daylight outside, and then it instantly cuts to nighttime when uh Annie drops Lori off of Tommy's. And then this I've always liked this scene too. Like once she drops off uh Lori, she parks right across the street. We get her walking up. Michael's just standing down by the tree, just watching her. She's uh meets the parents. The parents go get in their car and leave. Annie goes in, and he's just standing there, just just watching behind the tree. That's creepy. You know what he's doing? He's gooning, dude. Yeah, he is gooning. He dude, he's gooning all over Annie. Yeah, Michael's a little gooner, dude. I don't think I know people say like Lori is like the main girl. He doesn't, I don't think Michael cares about Lori at this point. He's all about Annie. He wants some Annie, dude. He's outside just like breathing hard when she's taking her clothes off when she spills the butter on her. This guy, dude. I'm pretty sure in the novelization, it's saying Michael gets such a hard on, it hurts. I'm pretty sure. I've never read the novelization, but whenever he like wants to kill or something, he gets he gets an erection. He's just raging, dude. Yeah, that's why he's breathing all hard, dude. He's he can't control himself.
SPEAKER_07I think you're right. I think he's all over Annie. She's the one that screamed at him that got his attention.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's not he's not across the street stalking Lori all night. Just whenever the other two are dead. And no, he doesn't even well, we'll get there. So we get uh Loomis and Sheriff Brackett going up to Michael's house to check to see if anybody's been there. Brackett says nobody's lived there since 1963. He said that the kids think this house is haunted. That's when uh they walk in the door, Brackett says, uh, what's that? He notices the dead dog, and uh Loomis says uh he got hungry. And this part I don't think I've ever paid attention to what Brackett says. Brackett uh tells Loomis could have been a skunk. Yeah, right, get out of here. You really think a skunk could kill a dog?
SPEAKER_07No, not that big of a dog.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't think it ever shows the dog.
SPEAKER_07Oh, maybe I'm getting confused with the German Shepherd later on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, probably. I don't think a skunk would kill any dog, though. I'd I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe skunks do fight. I don't know. I'd have to look it up. I don't know what skunks eat. All right, so then Brackett says a man wouldn't do that. Loomis says, This isn't a man, it's just trying to convince everybody what Michael is. Nobody's nobody really cares.
SPEAKER_07They should have paid more attention to Loomis.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they should have. And then everybody blames Loomis. Yeah, it's crazy. But he's trying to explain to everybody, nobody else is listening.
SPEAKER_07Yep. Was he supposed to be at Smith's Grove handcuffed to Michael 24-7? I guess so.
SPEAKER_03Like he's not a police officer, he's a therapist, yep, or psychiatrist, uh, whatever.
SPEAKER_07Who's worked with 15 years?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, 15 years.
SPEAKER_07So you would think the guy that's been working with this man for 15 years is gonna know, even if there's nothing to know because Michael won't speak, he's going to know better than anybody. Like, hey, this guy is dangerous. They should have every cop in that city out looking for this man. And instead, yeah, the sheriff and the therapist are like the only two that are even actively trying to find him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I really wish we could have found out more in the movie, like what Luma saw during that 15 years. Like, what did Michael what all did Michael do?
SPEAKER_07There's some additional scenes on the TV cut, I think, that show them interacting at Smith's Grove and Michael's a boy. And I think that's that's where they originally, I think, introduced that Lori was Michael's sister, because I think he writes sister on the wall or something.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do remember uh Loomis walked in and looks at Michael and says, You fooled them, but you haven't fooled me, or something like that. I haven't seen it in a long time. Yeah, it's been a long time. But that this is when we get that iconic speech from Dr. Loomis about how Michael is just purely and simply evil. And and then Loomis decides to wait on Michael. Well, he says, like, he's been here once, I think he'll come back. So he decides he's gonna wait there all night. Sheriff Brackett just goes, I don't know where he goes, maybe patrolling the streets.
SPEAKER_07Brack Brackett should have done what Michael was doing, trying to go home. Go home and make sure your daughter is safe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. This is when we get Lori and Tommy hanging out on the couch. Tommy's asking, what's the boogeyman? He he's he's fascinated with the boogeyman now. The phone rings. We get Annie telling Lori that she just talked to Ben Tramer and he wants to go to the dance with Lori. Lori's all upset over it. This is another iconic scene, dude. Tommy goes to look out the window and sees the silhouette of somebody just standing across the street. And do we get the do we get the score here again? I don't I don't think so. I can't remember. I could be wrong. Like, I don't know. Tommy runs over to Lori's freaking out saying the boogeyman's outside. The boogeyman's outside. She looks out, nobody's there. This is when uh Annie's standing in the kitchen, Michael's just standing outside looking in at her gooning hard, dude. This is when she spills the butter on her shirt. She literally has to take all of her clothes off except her underwear.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I would argue not a lot needed to be cut from this film, but she could have got rid of this whole pointless sequence.
SPEAKER_03I just feel like this whole from her talking on the phone in the kitchen to her doing the laundry out in the shed or outhouse, whatever this thing is outside, it this whole scene drags for me. I was saying we just get Michael, we just get him standing outside just looking in. Like I know that's that might be the point of the movie. We're ready for him to just pounce. Like, when's it gonna happen? I'm just just let something happen already.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. The movie does kind of lull at this point. Is this where he kills the German Shepherd?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh, we get Lester running out on Michael, just growling at him. Michael just turns, dude. This seems funny to me. We get uh Annie saying, Lindsay, Lindsay, get your dog, and then we hear she goes, Never mind. And then it just guts to Michael. We get that. We just see the dog slowly sliding down. Michael, he's he's just sitting there strangling that dog, dude. Dog just goes limp. It's it's hilarious. This is when uh we get Annie going to wash her clothes in the shed. Uh Michael standing outside the door. Uh the door shuts by the wind, or maybe Michael pulls it out. I I don't know. And it ends up locking the door, and she's just yelling, Lindsay, Lindsay. That's all we hear in this whole part of the movie. I hate her. I hate Annie. Lindsay. Is this for Lindsay? No, not yet. We get uh this is when she gets stuck in the window, and she's just yelling. She she can hear the phone ringing from out in out in the shed, and she's saying, It's Paul, it's Paul. And uh Lindsay finally goes to open the door. She tells Lindsay, don't tell anybody about this. Lindsay immediately runs in the house and tells Paul Annie got stuck in the window. Annie wants to take Lindsay over to uh Tommy Doyle's house so Paul can come pick her up. Or I think she's gonna go pick up Paul.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, she's gonna pick up Paul.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so she drops Lindsay off uh across the street with Lori and Tommy. She goes back over to her car, doors locked. She's goes inside to get her keys. She's singing some song, like uh, I forget how it goes, like uh something about Paul. So she she goes back to her car, uh the door's um magically unlocked. She doesn't even have to put her key in there. She gets inside, the windows are all fogged up. You just hear that breathing. She like touches the window, and then you get that Michael pops up, just starts choking her. And I guess it's not it's not working fast enough. So then you get Michael like kind of slashing her on the neck. And then, dude, when the acting in this scene, when she when she's dying and she's got her eyes all big and her nose up against the window, this actress is horrible.
SPEAKER_07And she comes back, too. She's in Halloween three season of the witch.
SPEAKER_03So well, she's in Halloween two, also, shows her uh brackett's reaction to uh her body, and he's blaming Loomis, of course. Of course, Linda and Bob arrive at the Wallace's house. They're I think they're drunk. I think we see beer cans falling out of the van.
SPEAKER_07At one point, they obviously go inside the house. Um, they're up in the bedroom. I think we get another iconic scene at that point. What what scene am I referring to? You see anything you like? Yeah. Bob eventually goes downstairs to, I guess, get another beer, and we get another stinger. Michael comes flying out of a closet or something. Another iconic shot. He lifts Bob up in the air, stabs him to the walls. I don't know how all that would actually happen, but Bob is just hung up on the wall by a butcher knife, and Michael's just slowly doing that head tilt.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I can't watch this scene without thinking a scream, dude. Yeah. And this is when we get Michael dressed up as the ghost. With another. I love that he put the glasses on it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07See, Michael can have some fun too. It's not all just business.
SPEAKER_03He's got a good sense of humor. It's she thinks it's Bob. That this is when she says, You see anything you like? And Michael does oh I oh, he's loving it. I know he is, babies. He is loving it. She gets up, gets on the phone, calls uh Lori, and you see Michael slowly walking towards her. Like this scene. She says, Lori answers the phone. Michael wraps the cord around her throat. She's going, uh Lori just hears moaning. She says something like, Annie, is this you first I get your chewing, now I get your moaning. And then Linda drops, and then we see the sheep getting pulled off. It's Michael, obviously. And then we see that shot of Michael picking up the phone and listening to Lori. I love the way Michael looks right there. That is hilarious.
SPEAKER_07And I think we cut, Loomis finds the car, and they're starting to search on the streets. And I'm assuming, due to that phone call, Lori leaves and goes to the Wallace house, and this is kind of where the movie starts to take off. She finds her friend's bodies in the house. Um, does she? I think she stumbles on the tombstone, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, she walks upstairs, she sees uh Annie spread out on the bed, and the Judith Myers' tomb or headstone sitting right in front of her, and this she like starts backing up, and then Bob just like pops out and swinging. Yeah, he is flailing, and then she ends up seeing Annie like the door, like I don't know what Annie's inside, like the door just opens up on its own, and then you see Annie laying in there dead. Lori starts freaking out, she's stumbling backwards, just sitting there whimpering, or whatever you would call it. Then we get that iconic shot of Michael's mask just appearing. We get that do we see his mask just coming out of darkness. It's beautiful. He goes and he tries to slash at Lori, cuts her arm. She uh falls down the stairs again. This whole scene reminds me of Scream One. I just picture Dewey, Dewey running around the house looking for Neil, and we just hear all this in the background of Scream One. Then we see Michael walking down the stairs as it's playing the shape stalks, iconic, and Lori runs in the kitchen, locks the door. She's trying, she goes to the back door. Michael's got it propped up with a rake. This guy, he's got everything planned out, dude.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, he knows what he's doing.
SPEAKER_03He's very smart. And we see Michael, like he's trying to open the door, he ends up punching through it, and then locks the door. Dude, when he opens the door with his arm like halfway through the door, I remember watching this as a kid, just being terrified of this guy. Like he he's he doesn't stop. She busts the window, pushes the rake out of the way. This is when I she's running across the street, Michael slowly following behind. Of course, she forgot the keys.
SPEAKER_05The keys, the keys.
SPEAKER_03She throws a plant up at the uh the window. Dude, Tommy at this part. Oh, that little shit, dude. He's uh he's walking as slow as possible, rubbing his eyes, and we're just on the edges of our seats, dude. Just like, come on, you fucker, open the goddamn door, the door, open the fucking door. We uh he finally gets to the door, opens it. She shuts the door, tells him uh get. I don't, I think she tells her him to go get uh Lindsay and hide, maybe I can't remember. Or no, tell maybe just hide in the bedroom or something. Then we see that the window, we see that the window is open. So Michael just immediately he's so sneaky, dude. He just walks to the side of the house, comes through the window. She's like crouching down on the floor, grabbing a knitting needle, whatever that is. And then Michael pops up. I don't know what he's trying to stab right here. He completely misses her. She pokes him in the in the neck with the sewing needle or knitting needle, whatever. And then he just he pulls it out and just drops.
SPEAKER_07She thinks she killed him, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, she leaves the knife sitting there, too. Stupid. Yeah, so we we get her going upstairs to the kids, and she's saying, uh, everything's okay. And Tommy's like, How do you know? She's like, I killed him. You can see like a shadow behind her, like on the wall moving. Tommy says, You can't kill the boogeyman. And then we we see Tommy look up and screams, dude. This shot of Michael standing there, he looks pissed. Like the way he looks in this scene, he looks pissed. Man, he's just standing there holding a knife. It's playing the shape stocks, I believe. She gets the kids like in a closet or something, and she runs to the closet. Is there a scene more iconic in this movie than this closet scene? Uh I would argue not. Like, this might be one of the most iconic shots in cinema history.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you got the light bulb flickering on and off, too. Just uh John Carpenter.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like she's just sitting there, she grabs a clothes hanger, and he starts busting through the closet door. He's pulling the light, it's going on and off, and he's like going to reach for her. She pokes him in the eyeball with the clothes hanger. He drops the knife. Dude, the way he's breathing in this scene, he's like, Oh, Jesus. Yeah, so she he drops the knife and she he's like holding up towards his eye. She grabs the knife, stabs him in the stomach, he drops on the floor. Of course, dude, she opens a closet, looks at him, just throws the knife right next to him.
SPEAKER_07She didn't learn the first time.
SPEAKER_03People act like I don't get the praise for Lori Strode, like her being the the final girl. Like she's nobody's better than her. She's dude, she is making mistakes left and right in this movie. Shout out Sydney Prescott. Exactly. And then this is when we get Lori. Uh, she tells uh Tommy and Lindsay to run down to the McKenzie's. This is when Luma sees the door fly open, sees two kids running out screaming. So he knows something's going on in this house. We get, of course, Lori's got her back turned to Michael, slowly walking. We get that iconic shot of Michael just sitting up, and then his head kind of turns. Yeah, head turns directly towards her, and then we get him walking. She's slowly walking. He comes up behind her and just grabs her. This he's doing that breathing again. He's going, he's like, oh doing that. Sounds like Rick Ross. Sounds like Rick Ross. He's sitting there, he's trying to choke her. She pulls his mask off. We get to see Michael's face. His eyes all fucked up from the clothes hanger. Just looks all bizarre. Loomis is running up the stairs, and we see he sees that it's Michael Myers. He knows what Michael looks like. Uh, he sees him with the mask off. He lets him put the mask back on, and he fires a shot at him. And uh he runs in the room. Michael's just standing there in the dark doing that. Oh he's doing that heavy breathing again, and then he fires off like five more shots at him because he shot him six times.
SPEAKER_05Shot him six times.
SPEAKER_03We get Michael doing the doing the stupid, oh, I'm being shot, like throwing his arms up, yeah, flailing backwards. Yeah, and he falls off the balcony, shows him laying on the ground.
SPEAKER_04We get that dun.
SPEAKER_03We get uh Lori like sitting up. Against the wall crying, she says, Uh, it was the boogeyman. Finish it.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I don't know what he said. He, yes, I'm afraid it was. I don't know what he says. Or yes, indeed, it was the boogeyman.
SPEAKER_03Loomis says, as a matter of fact, it was. And then we get we get Loomis walking over to the balcony, and Michael's gone. Starts playing that iconic score. You get Loomis just like looking around, like he knew, he knew Michael wouldn't wouldn't die from this. He knew the scores. The scores playing. We get Lori crying in the window because like she knows this guy's gone. And then we just get that those iconic shots of like every little place, you know, like everywhere Michael's been, pretty much. Like he could be anywhere at this point. We hear him breathing. The evil, you can't kill the boogeyman.
SPEAKER_07Can't kill the shape, baby. I think earlier we I didn't touch on it, and I'm totally meant to, but the opening credits of the movie are also just iconic as it gets. The pumpkin that Orange Want is just beautiful. What a beautiful movie!
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this movie's perfect. Other than I know I said uh the acting is some of the acting's just horrendous, but the this movie is perfection on a low budget that they had, like using the same leaves in every scene. Yeah, like the John Carpenter, dude, he's just he is horror. That guy knows what he's doing with horror. Uh, in the credits, I'm pretty sure it says uh Michael Myers is 23. It says like Michael Myers age 23. That's wrong, because he'd be 21 in this movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And they don't, I don't think they refer to him as Michael Myers. It's the shape in the credits.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they just call him the shape. The shape aged 23, I'm I believe is what it says.
SPEAKER_07I'm sure this won't be the last time we talk about a Halloween movie on here.
SPEAKER_03Definitely not. I I can't wait to do the sequel. The sequel sometimes Halloween 2. I go back and forth on which one's my favorite.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I don't uh we'll get there when we discuss Halloween 2. All right. Well, as everybody knows who listens along with us, we alternate picking movies. So I picked Halloween last episode. So what you got for episode four?
SPEAKER_03I'm wanting to go to step away from horror this time. I'm wanting to go. I'm wanting to go with a movie that I grew up with. Uh just a it's one of my all-time favorite movies. I know you probably love this movie too. I'm wanting to go with um American Pie. Oh, we're gonna do a comedy. Yeah. A little just a little different from what we've been doing. A little sidestep.
SPEAKER_07I'm down for American Pie. I just watched it maybe a month and a half ago. First time I'd seen it in well over ten years. I can't wait to watch it. All right. Well, hope everybody out there enjoyed this episode. Uh, when it comes to Halloween, I will watch that later. I'll watch that later too. We'll see you next time on episode four for American Pie. Yep, we'll see ya.
SPEAKER_02Man wouldn't do that. This isn't a man.
SPEAKER_00All right, first I get your famous chewing, now I get your famous squealing.
SPEAKER_03Numus Numus. I'm getting it mixed up because the nurse and Loomis did. Numus. You've combined.
SPEAKER_07You've combined. We cut to the car where we see Numas.