Episode 22 - Godfrey Featuring Godfrey

Episode 22 - Godfrey Featuring Godfrey

Episode 22 of Lemme Ask You This with Talib Kweli and Tef Poe features the comedian Godfrey. It starts with Godfrey sharing a story about seeing Talib performing at an Apple Store and goes into Talib talking about how Black men do not have the luxury to get mad in public. Godfrey does an Elon Musk impression and Talib talks about meeting Elon Musk. Godfrey makes fun of Iceberg clothes and then shares his experience at Blerdcon. Godfrey talks about how racist Hollywood can be and then talks about how much white people love the n word. Talib and Godfrey discuss weaponized freedom of speech and the importance of combating ignorance. Godfrey talks about cultural appropriation and the hypocrisy of anti Black Arabs. Talib talks about how racism is not logical and Godfrey quotes Toni Morrison. Godfrey talks about the lack of diversity in movies. Talib talks about the paradox of tolerance, which leads to a conversation about the book The Delectable Negro. Godfrey makes fun of Tef's turn up and Talib talks about accidentally blocking Godfrey. Godfrey talks about his online hustle and how he was inspired by Damon Dash. Godfrey talks about being inspired by younger comedians, which lead to his relationship with Shannon Sharpe. Talib asks Godfrey about his favorite sit coms. Godfrey talks about Three's Company and she's stories about working on Soul Plane. Godfrey talks about how smart old school rappers are and Talib asks Godfrey about how he was inspired by the Three Stooges.  Godfrey talks about how Jim Carrey inspired him. Talib asks Godfrey about his One54 podcast which leads into a discussion about talking white. Godfrey talks about how white people get real creative with racist slurs. Talib asks Godfrey if he knows about the monkey civil war. Talib brings up the Biafra War and Tef asks Godfrey about why he publicly combats colonialism. Godfrey shares his experience with starting a book club in college and talks about how he was inspired by Louis Farrakhan. Godfrey talks about becoming woke in college and the importance of being well read. Godfrey talks about starting comedy in Chicago and Talib asks Godfrey about his issues with Corey Holcomb. Godfrey shows love to Steve Harvey and Bernie Mac. Godfrey goes into his Donald Trump impression and this leads into a conversation about whether or not white comics should impersonate other races. Godfrey talks about how white people do not compete on a level playing field. Talib asks Godfrey about his early days of doing comedy for pimps. Godfrey talks about how hard it is to date nowadays and how people bring baggage into new relationships. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_08 0:00

Which side are you on you don't have to fancy? Which side are you?

SPEAKER_07 0:08

Which side are you on?

SPEAKER_08 0:11

Uh yeah, we're gonna be at the Hollywood Palladium.

unknown 0:14

Damn.

SPEAKER_09 0:15

Oh, that's on sunset.

SPEAKER_08 0:16

Right? Yep.

SPEAKER_09 0:17

Is he doing a sh what is it a bunch of lower?

SPEAKER_08 0:20

It's a Netflix, it's a joke thing. And no, he's gonna, it's gonna be You know what? I have no idea what's going on. So, well, first of all, this is let me ask you this. I'm Talib Kwali.

SPEAKER_06 0:28

I'm Tef Poe.

SPEAKER_08 0:29

Y'all, y'all never met before, right? No, I never met you, man. What up? Big fan, man.

SPEAKER_09 0:32

No doubt.

unknown 0:33

Man, appreciate you, man. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_08 0:34

Godfrey, I feel like I don't I don't remember when we've met. I feel like I've known you my whole life.

SPEAKER_09 0:39

For some kind of reason, I used to see him popping up in little concerts. He I remember this is when I had had it with Talib. When it was I was at an Apple store on Spreak Street. This is when, you know, we were shopping at the brick and mortars. You know, I would always go down to Soho, blah, blah, blah. I'm just at Apple. Ladies and gentlemen, performing at Apple store. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_11 1:03

I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_09 1:05

Talib gets on the table. Oh my God. We used to do that. They used to party at the Apple store. He goes, I don't give a fuck, bro. How about killing me, dog? So I think I know, yeah, I've known you over the years.

SPEAKER_08 1:19

And that was so that was like that was like that was in the mid-2000s. And I had already known you for a minute by that point. Yeah, yeah, man. It was always, I just knew him a lot. I just but I met Teff and Ferguson from St. Louis, and I went down to Ferguson from the uprising. Rest in peace, Michael Brown Jr., and we got into some shit. Yeah. Activist business. Yeah, I remember I saw that. You know, and Teff is someone who's been an activist, revolutionary MC at a and he won on Freestyle Fridays on BT 106 Apark seven times. So real MC, real artist. No doubt. I'm happy you could be on our podcast.

SPEAKER_09 1:55

No, this is always a privilege to be around great minds. Yeah. Talent. And you know, we know where we talk. Yeah, man. I used to watch him battle people online. The best. He would answer everyone. Paragraphs. First of all.

SPEAKER_08 2:12

Second of all. Third of all. Yeah, bum. First of all. You gotta learn how to disrespect. See, as black people, man, we don't, as black men, we don't have the privilege to walk around angry and mad. Because if we walk around angry and mad, they try to get us uh suicided by cop or murdered by cop. Right, that's right. Right? So it's like we can't, as soon as they're like, oh, that nigga's mad, they it has an excuse to shoot him. Yeah, right? So I think with us, it particularly in learning how to navigate the online spaces, I have tried to become very adept at cussing you out and being very disrespectful without being angry, without using gendered slurs or insults. No doubt. But like I'll be hurting niggas' feelings so much that they kick me off. They'd be like, he is not welcome here.

SPEAKER_06 2:53

All over the internet.

SPEAKER_08 2:54

You like an internet outlaw this. Persona non grata. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to all y'all who still and by the way, anybody who stayed on Twitter after I got kicked off and then stayed on Twitter while Elon Musk took over, but you wanted me kicked off Twitter, but you stayed on when Elon Musk came on C Kalen on Twitter. Man, y'all hypocrites. All y'all.

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Elon's like, um, I I have to find out about um this is a guy named Um Talib Kuele. Um and my technology has been able to find out Qualeb Talib Talib. Yo. And he he glitches. He glitches in front of us. He glitches. Anyway, um him and um the most deaf um black star. Um I'm gonna find a way to destroy him.

SPEAKER_08 3:42

Listen, yo, okay, first of all. We were talking about Chappelle. Chappelle ruined my life for like two weeks because I had already got kicked off of Twitter, right? And then this was back when people, a lot of people still didn't know how much of a Nazi that Elon Musk was, including Chappelle, he didn't know. And Elon Musk, for people who don't know, he used to kind of present himself as a more progressive type person when he first came on the scene. Remember, they used to say he was like Bruce Wayne. People was like celebrating him. Well, Bruce Wayne is a fascist. Like he's supposed to be, well, we talked about that. Bruce Wayne is Batman is definitely a fascist. Um got no superpowers.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

It's just a rich white man going to be a big thing. Yeah, just rich rich beating a party.

SPEAKER_09 4:28

Taking African uh minerals and all his whole families based on the working with the police. Ain't shit. Errol Musk? Ain't shit. Errol Musk said, we brought culture to Africa. Cultureless people brought culture to Africa. And he says, yes, the part tide was good. And he got the stepdaughter pregnant too.

SPEAKER_08 4:47

Yeah, he's he's going, he's on trial for for saturated rape, right? Right now? The Elon Musk pop.

SPEAKER_09 4:54

Errol Musk, good.

SPEAKER_08 4:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um horrible dude. But so Chappelle brings Elon Musk on stage. Of course he does. At the in the Bay Area, right? And this is a good friend of mine. Right. I'm telling you, Elon Musk. And the whole thing.

SPEAKER_09 5:08

That he doesn't like black people. Let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_08 5:10

This is before any of that, though. The whole crowd started booing. Oh, wow. Because it was starting to happen. It was starting to turn. Wow. The crowd started booing. Wow. And he had just fired a bunch of people on Twitter. He had just taken over Twitter. And Dave was like, that's oh, everybody you fired. And the crowd didn't like that joke either. They booed that joke. Because they were like, oh, what happened? And so, but Black Star was on tour. So it was Blackstar, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle. So now I'm on stage. Because it was like the ending of the show. I'm on stage knowing that I don't fuck with this nigga. Right. I already, I'm already, in my mind, I'm already, he's a Nazi. Right. So I'm already there, even though the rest of the people I was with wasn't there. And I'm like, and and Dave is like, yo, Kuali got kicked off of Twitter. You should let him back on. And it becomes like a big joke. Right? And Elon Musk is like, yeah, you can totally get back on Twitter. I'm like, mm-mm. I'm good. I don't want to be on Twitter. Okay. But then the story went out that Elon, Dave Chappelle, made Elon Musk put Tyler Kuali back on Twitter. So now I'm getting re-canceled for some shit I said. I said no, Nikki. I said no, I don't want to be on Twitter.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_08 6:17

I got re-canceled.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Re-canceled. Already canceled.

SPEAKER_06 6:20

But do it again. He liked the damn uh multiple man accounts being canceled. He just split them in half. You and Riza Islam, boy.

SPEAKER_08 6:27

Oh yeah, you know, Riza Islam be saying some shit to be pissing them off.

SPEAKER_09 6:30

Man, he be like. He'd be pissing them off.

SPEAKER_08 6:32

No, that's the vaccine that I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_09 6:34

I don't even know how Riza Islam made it. He's still every week he's saying some shit. Now he's doing a um, I was at uh blurred con, which I never knew about.

SPEAKER_08 6:43

Yeah, back in the days you was just a loser. Now you get to say you were blurred and you get to be cool. Right, right, right. Back in the days, yeah, yeah, blurred.

SPEAKER_09 6:49

You blurred corny ass nigga, corny ass nigga. You corn bull. Because I like comic books right. You corn bull. And this is the dude, the thug dude with uh Disney characters on his jacket. Fuck out of here. He got the iceberg bucks bunny. They got the full speed.

SPEAKER_08 7:12

Nigga, you got a loony tools butter, butter left.

SPEAKER_09 7:15

Looney tools, like a yo 70 Sam man's like, man, it's like, yo, man, for real, you corny.

SPEAKER_08 7:19

You have your 70 Sam on the back of your jacket. I'm triggered because I'm from Flatbridge, Brooklyn, and niggas was wearing the iceberg. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. Bugs was gangster, though. Yeah, the Tweety Bird. Tweety Bird. Tweety Bird.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Shout out to LG, salute.

SPEAKER_09 7:34

Tweety Bird Head is a whole nother level. He got the fucking Tweety Bird. Tweety Bird hat. The leather jacket with all the Looney Tube cartoons on there.

SPEAKER_08 7:42

Yeah, yeah, baby. Um You too funny, bro. I forget. I forgot what we was talking about from when we first started, because we done gone so many different things. Wait, wait, wait, we were saying, damn it.

SPEAKER_06 7:53

What was I saying? Something about some damn Elon Musk and the damn No. Did we move past that?

SPEAKER_08 7:58

No, no. It's just too funny. We said too much shit. It's too much. Godfrey, it's too much. You was at BlurredCon. BlurredCon.

SPEAKER_09 8:04

I was at BlurrCon. I was at the bl I was at BlurDCon, which said something about BlurredCon. Damn it. I was at BlurCon for the first time. Ah. And ah, I was at BlurredCon and something. This is fucking hilarious. Damn it! I forgot. It was blurred. Something about BlurredCon. Maybe it'll come up when I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_08 8:22

Fat Man being a fascist. Are we talking about that?

SPEAKER_09 8:25

No, that's not it.

SPEAKER_08 8:26

Damn. We gonna edit this to make niggas look a lot.

SPEAKER_09 8:30

It's been on DC for seven years, and I went to BlurredCon for the first time, and I learned a bunch of shit. It was dope. All black nerds, cosplay, and all of that shit, and learned about the racism in the uh cosplay world. There's one black girl that killed herself because they were calling her so many names online. They're being super racist. It's like they just even the nerds, the the nerd, the white racist nerds are so racist. It's like you guys are ostracized in your own community, but then you got you still got that N-word in you. Like, I don't fucking get it. Because I feel bad for people, anybody being bullied. Like, look at I'm I'm wearing Miles Morales. And this is a shout out to Actively Black Lanny, who created Actively Black, which his stuff is fire, by the way. And um, and when Miles Morales came out, it was an Afro Latino. They wanted to one. Yep. Because they didn't want to, I know. It's twofer. So we're calling twofer. Because they didn't want to be, let's have a Dominican one and a black one. Well, that's a lot. Right. But you have multiversion.

SPEAKER_08 9:31

They should have made him gay too. He'd like they would have got a griefer.

SPEAKER_09 9:35

We're gonna make him gay with AIDS. And his foot is cut off from diabetes. Definitely gonna win an Oscar. Definitely gonna win an Oscar. Oh, yeah. He lost his dad. Right. Crackhead, former crackhead.

SPEAKER_08 9:52

He has a baby with Leonardo DiCaprio.

SPEAKER_09 9:55

Get him an Oscar. Cuba good ain't trash, but he couldn't win an Oscar. And he went full tart. Full tart. I mean a shopping cart. They were like, ooh, black and retarded? Better pick one handicap, buddy. Right. He should have been a retarded slave. He would have been a retarded super slave. A retarded slave that got bitted.

SPEAKER_08 10:15

You heard me saying retarded on my podcast. He got no, he got bit by a mosquito.

SPEAKER_09 10:19

Instead of spider, he got bit by a mosquito. So he just kind of like, yo, what kind of fucking superhero are you? Man. Oh my God. And then he did snow dogs after that, Cuba building. I love Cuba, but damn. If you're white with an ailment, you win Oscars.

SPEAKER_11 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 10:38

I mean, you could just count it. Uh you could go, you go, I am Sam, uh Elephant Man.

SPEAKER_08 10:43

I'm not an animal. I'm a human being. Yeah, I watched that in elementary school. They show with the kids.

SPEAKER_04 10:49

It was weird, too.

SPEAKER_09 10:52

I'm not an animal. The motherfucker won awards. Like a motherfucker, tumors on him.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

And then I am Sam. You know, he had a little weird thing. I am Sam. He wins. Remember Mass with the big ass head? Mass with the big ass head. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_08 11:07

It's Rocky, Rocky from Mass with Cher. Cher.

SPEAKER_09 11:10

They gave Cher the award, too. That was my friend.

SPEAKER_08 11:11

When you standing next to Mask, you get the award too.

SPEAKER_09 11:14

My friend's man, my friend's mom in high school casted that, Jane Alderman in Chicago. He was the biggest cat. She did Lucas, like Ferris Bueller. That was, you know, all Chicago.

SPEAKER_08 11:24

You would, Tef, you had mentioned something on the other episode about the comment section. He went off. He said, White people, you gotta get together with the way y'all be acting in the comment sections. You go to any white publication, and it could be something benign. It could be like, you know, the the the the Eagles won the series, and and the all the comments is like, nigger, nigga, white people go instantly racist over anything, man. Over anything. Right. And you on your page was talking about how they so quick to get to the word nigger.

SPEAKER_09 11:51

They're very man, it's like right there. Right there. It's like it's a trigger. They have the bullets right there. If you dare make them mad in any kind of way, nigga! You know, it's like right there. Yeah. Or they love to end nigga with like it's a like it's their punctuation. Yeah. But when especially when they curse you out and all these, I have this thing called leave black people alone. That's what I was getting to. Oh the Chud dude, the one you met, the one about the Chud dude. The Chud dude's like, oh, why are you chimping out, nigga? I can't stand that dude, man.

SPEAKER_08 12:19

I didn't hear about him until I saw him on the He has a gun on him.

SPEAKER_09 12:22

I think he has a weapons on him. I was like, man, no white dude is doing that with no weapons. And those were kids. Yeah, and those were real young kids. But then he went to this one place where this big bouncer dude's like, hey man, I ain't gonna tell you again, man. Get the fuck over. Get out of here. He goes, yeah. He walks away and goes, fuck nigga. You said it when you were walking away. Yeah. Because the dude was like, What's good, man? Yeah. You know, but no one's touching him because he's trying to, he's trolling. One dude, one black dude just spit on him in a gas station. It went, poor, man. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 12:53

He's he's yeah, but he decided to go and you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance?

SPEAKER_09 13:00

Paradox of tolerance.

SPEAKER_08 13:01

It's like it's it's a concept. Um there's the freedom of speech thing. Do you remember a few years ago when there was uh a guy murdered two dudes on a on a train in Portland? He was trying to harass a Muslim woman with a hijab on. And he was like, take that hijab off, you in America. And it was two dudes, military dudes actually, that tried to stop him, like, yo, leave the leave the sister alone. And he was like, free speech, and he stabbed both of them to death on the train, right? Wow. And a bunch of people supported him on some. He said, I'm a warrior for free speech. Yeah, I'm allowed to harass this Muslim woman. Wow. And because they tried to stop me, I feel like I hadn't the right to murder them.

SPEAKER_06 13:44

How quickly they turned on those so-called American heroes.

SPEAKER_08 13:47

Were those soldiers black? No, they were white dudes.

SPEAKER_06 13:50

The soldiers were white, dude.

SPEAKER_08 13:51

The soldiers were white. Oh, I don't know. They may never I don't think they were black. I think we would have known more about it if they were black. Okay. But even if they wasn't white, they wasn't black. But he went to court and and his history was of course, he's a neo-Nazi fascist dude. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? There was a footage of him walking around with a swastika flag. But the Nazis in our countries, the right-wing fascists, they have weaponized freedom of speech. Yeah. Clearly, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. They're not fighting for freedom from speech. They're fighting for the idea that they don't have to be held accountable for anything. Or anything. That's right.

SPEAKER_09 14:26

That's what they're fighting for. They're moving the goalposts. You're very sneaky with that. A lot of racist whites. It's funny because there's another guy, this comic, white dude. He's so funny. Him and his boy go, they go to rallies, like Trump supporter rallies.

SPEAKER_08 14:38

I know you're talking about Walter.

SPEAKER_09 14:39

That dude. Walter something, right? He goes like this. So uh um Trump is one of the greatest presidents. And they'd be like, Yeah, I think he's one of the greatest presidents ever. Right. So, what is what has he done for you?

SPEAKER_04 14:50

Oh, you know, I don't really really in the mood to talk about that right now. Right, right.

SPEAKER_09 14:54

He goes, but you just said he was the greatest president. I just want to make sure you know which one. Could you tell me what he did? Um you know, you know, he he said, you know, he's done a lot of things like like what? He said that he would stop the war in one day, but it hasn't stopped. Why's the reason?

SPEAKER_04 15:08

You know, things take time.

SPEAKER_08 15:11

They have a way of fucking just making shit up. And what you just said, I'm glad you brought that up because what that guy does, and I forget his last name, but it's important that you combat the ignorance and the misinformation with actual knowledge. And that we don't let people just ignorantly be bigots without confronting them with the truth. No doubt. If you don't, if you are saying something that's factually incorrect, it's our duty as people who know better to do better and say something. And what I do online, what you said about the bullying, yeah, that's the online interaction is real. We're doing DoorDash, we're doing Uber, we do everything online. We program bots and and we program the algorithm to be racist because we are racist people. Human beings to each other. And so we cannot that the reason why I engage in the way I do online, and the reason why I write those whole paragraphs, because I feel like it's important in the scope of history for me to present point, counterpoint. I'm not just on here dissing you, I'm I'm on here to be like, this is why you're wrong. And we have to combat it because this online activity might make someone kill themselves. So before before someone gets bullied online to the point where they kill themselves, I'm gonna distract you with the facts. Yeah. So you can't bully someone who maybe don't have the bandwidth to deal with your shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 16:26

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I have a thing now where I anytime I see someone from a different race pop locking or doing some shit, I put up the emoji, this emoji. I'm tired of that shit. Yeah. And because I say black culture, black American culture is the stronger culture on the planet. Out of Africa, it's the strongest. Everybody copies it. And I understand it's the coolest shit on the planet. And anytime I see, if I see an Asian dude mixing, I go, I do this, I do this, either I do this, or I go, black culture rocks. And I just saw black culture rocks. Everyone's like, you know what, man? You know, fuck. Right. But black people are not there. I go, that's black shit. The DJing is black scratching.

SPEAKER_08 17:11

And the ones who really bout it who are not black, they're not gonna get mad about that. Right.

SPEAKER_09 17:15

The ones that get mad is like you hate the people, the very people you hate you're copying. That's right. It's a sickness. You I if I hated a race of people, I wouldn't indulge in anything, any of their culture. But racism is not logical. To indulge in people's cultures that you fucking disrespect.

SPEAKER_08 17:33

That's and that's that's what that's how they try to define define not being a racist. I have black friends, I have a black girlfriend, I have black kids, I like black rappers. Your alleged proximity to black people doesn't disprove your racism. And thinking it does proves you're very racist. Like go ahead. No, go ahead. No, so it's like I was just gonna say, like, like white people get mad at me because I when they come at me with the bullshit, I'm quick to be like, shut the fuck up, white boy. Like you're racist. You just said white boy. Now you're telling yourself, because that's a term of endearment where I'm like.

SPEAKER_06 18:05

If you get mad at white boy, honestly, I use white boy. You don't know no black people. I let white boy.

SPEAKER_08 18:10

You have no black friends.

SPEAKER_06 18:11

And sometimes I use white boy intentionally hoping you hoping you're offended because that's what you is. White boy. I come from the Midwest. If I'm on the corner, I'm not looking down in my boots at no damn white boy on the corner. Like you in a real situation, surrounded by a black populace. Do something about it. Like white boy, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 18:27

Like, and that's why white boy Rick got respect. That's why play that funky music, white boy. That's why 50 says said Eminem, you my favorite white boy.

SPEAKER_09 18:35

White boy, you know you're my favorite white boy, Eminem. Yeah, man, it's like, yeah, that that um, I just get, yeah, I'm I've been, I when I see anybody, because there's these these Japanese people, you know, they they always find a way to copy black shit all the time. Now they're doing the fucking, you know, this shit's happening.

SPEAKER_08 18:52

They're very good at it.

SPEAKER_09 18:53

And amazing. I go, black culture rocks. I just do that. People go, why is it all? I go, it's black. It's just black. I'm you're mad because I'm saying it's black. You're not mad that I'm going, yo, they're copying. You're mad because the very people that you talk shit about, that you disrespect, are the ones you're copying. Black people, the ones your parents told you to hate, you're copying that culture. The culture comes from rebellion. It call all of black American culture comes from rebellion, oppression. Now you got Palestinian rappers. There's these boys that Palestinian rappers. That's black culture. That's right. But then Palestinians will open up a store in a black neighborhood and be disrespectful. You respect that. But then when all this shit is going on, you want us to back you the fuck up, but you will sit in there worry about a dude stealing Doritos out of your fucking store. And a lot of black people are Muslims too. But you don't even pray next to some black people in a fucking mosque. Some of you hate black are Muslim Africans.

SPEAKER_11 19:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 19:52

So I and I'm not saying this is all Muslims. Of course not. Right. But you you But these things are happening. But Allah, you still can't get past black skin? Did Allah tell you? And in the Quran, most of those characters are black.

SPEAKER_11 20:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 20:05

Bilal, all of them are black.

SPEAKER_08 20:07

But you, but there's this thing of anti-blackness is real as fuck, bro. Anti-blackness permeates the whole world, even in places where there are no black people.

SPEAKER_09 20:15

No black, they just make it up. They just conjure up. They know how to say nigga. They they are they're they're like pre-racists. They're like they're practicing in case some black person comes and goes, I'm ready. Right. Nigga. I'm ready for you, monkey nigga.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Monkey nigga, nigga, big dick, nigga, nigga. Clap my dick. Pop lucky. Oh ho.

SPEAKER_09 20:41

Welcome to my country.

SPEAKER_08 20:43

I can tell this man has a passport.

SPEAKER_09 20:45

He's clearly been around the world. No, but it was some real shit. You know, it's like it's like you're the you're the human race is because of black people. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 20:54

The way that people women. Yeah, the way that people telling themselves is even with the fetish fetish uh fetetization. I always fuck up when I try to say that word. Fetizization. Fetizization. Yes, it's dumb. Fetizization. You have to say it like you mind anyway.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Even with all the fetish shit. When you can't pronounce something, you know with the fetish. The fetish shit. All the fetish shit.

SPEAKER_08 21:14

Yeah, yeah. That's fettywap. The fetiwap. Now that fetiwa. You know how the fetiwap they be doing to black women. But people tell on themselves by trying to apply logic to racism. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, that's it's not logical. Yes, you're going to like black vagina. Yes, you're gonna think LeBron James is the greatest. Yes. You're still gonna hate niggas.

SPEAKER_09 21:37

You still hate them. Yeah. Because it's it's it's not logical. It's not like it's not logical. Yeah. Tony Morrison, I don't know if you've seen this. I know exactly what you're talking about. Charlie Rose. She has the greatest summary white racism. She goes, this distortion, this delusion, she goes, leave me out of it. This is something white people need to handle. She goes, it's like, if, if, if, if, if, in order to feel tall when somebody's on is on your on their knees, it's something, it's something is wrong with you. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, what, what are white people without racism? What are you? What are you? What are you? You're just out there all strung out with your little self? What are you are you without racism? What are you without it? We know what we are. We know what we are. Because here's another one. I there's this kid, you know, I watch a lot of like college kids do these things. There's one guy on a college campus who asked questions about, you know, dating and all this black kid. And he one day he was like, um, he's actually the black students. So if you were to be reincarnated, would you come back, would you want to be black or would you come back another race? And all the black kids were like, black. I want to be black. He's like, why? Culturally, look at us hairstyle, everything, everything we create. That's and he's and they were like, Well, I know because you know, you know, the world is racist and the laws benefit them and all that, but we're so dope. There's a reason why everybody hates us. We're dope. I'm gonna come back black. It was first reward, worth it. It was right, it was cool, right? It's cool to see young black kids say it, like, hell yeah, I want to be black, fuck that. Then they asked the white, the white students, and they say, hey, if you could come back as a certain race, we would be, I'd want to be white. Why? It was nothing cultural, it was laws. They were like, well, you know, um, you know, because we have benefits, because of, but it was nothing cultural. It wasn't like, yo, my skin, my hair, my this, it was just my life is easier. My life is easier. Money and the power, okay. My my life is easier. And black kids were like, black, we're fucking dope. And it's like, what are white people without the laws? What up, where are white people without the 1776 George Washington and the forefathers making it easy for white dudes to do whatever the fuck they want? Yeah. You know what I mean? Because because laws, there's a there's a video that is like it went very viral, really viral of this white dude listening to, you know, how there's allies, some white dudes will spit that real shit, and he's listening to a black dude going, the only reason why they make laws is so white men can behave properly. That's the only reason why they make laws so you don't act a fucking fool. Right. You know, and the white dude's like, that's true. That's you know what I'm saying? That's what laws are made so white men don't fuck everybody up.

SPEAKER_08 24:23

Yeah, it's time to give somebody else a shot, by the way. Yeah, white guys, straight, rich white guys, somebody else needs a shot. It's Robin, this car that we're all in together. It's like, come on, man.

SPEAKER_09 24:33

It's like, why do you think the Marvel Universe is weak? Because we're tired of them heroes. Right. Like this Spider-Verse is won an Oscar. That's a killing. And you don't want to make them a live action dude. Yeah, you don't want to make him live action because you know it's a rap. It's a rap. It's a rap. We he's in cart two, all right? He won an Oscar on that. And the second one was fire. She can't make him a live actor. They're so, it's all race shit.

SPEAKER_08 24:59

Jack Brown from uh Loot Pack, his son is Miles uh Brown from Blackish.

SPEAKER_11 25:07

Right.

SPEAKER_08 25:07

And Miles Brown look kind of like Miles Morales. Right. Yeah. And I don't know if he's aged out yet, but I know a couple years ago he was trying to get that Miles Morales off the ground. And if when it happened, it's a rap.

SPEAKER_09 25:18

It's like people want to see themselves. It's like the second Spider-Verse had an Indian Spider-Man hat, and that shit was banging. Had that dude with fucking cool. The punk dude. It was so dope.

SPEAKER_08 25:30

I go, and and when they show Peter Parker, he looked weak compared to all the others. He had on the sweatpants that he's overweight. And shout out to open Mike Eagle, who's a rapper who's also very funny. Yeah. But he got a song called Sweatpants Spider-Man. Because he's like, I'm a superhero, but I'm kind of washed. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm Spider-Man. I'm not getting white superheroes.

SPEAKER_09 25:50

We've grown up with that. But people that we want to see us. People want to see, like, what's his name? Um, Liu, the guy who played Shang-Chi from Canada's Canadian Chinese. He snapped the other day. He said, Yo, Asians movies have been murdering the past six, seven years. From Parasite to um all you know, all the Korean shit. We've been murdering, and there's no Chinese leads. There's no male Chinese. What the fuck are we doing with this racist ass shit? Yeah. We we we we pretty much occupy most of the earth's surface, and we still not seeing Asian leads, but it's just Asian women, fucking white dudes. He went in. I go, it's the truth. We're tired of not seeing us. Representation matters. We collect black people consume most of the comic book world. Fuck you talking about all my friends are comic book geniuses. I got a guy named Scout. He'll bury anybody in comic book knowledge. That motherfucker be like, yo, you don't know about purple hulk? You gotta go sit down with a you gotta go sit down with a purple. He came from the other world when um Galactus and his motherfucker Scout will destroy.

SPEAKER_08 26:57

You gotta go on uh Pete Rock and Mickey Fax got a podcast that's all about comics.

SPEAKER_09 27:01

Oh, my boy Scout is the truth. This motherfucker be like, oh no, no, no, no. That's handicapped Spider-Man. Let me tell you why. Because uh he knows the he's so good, but I grew up with black dudes that knew that shit. That we know anime. We what? Blurcon? Yeah, the smartest motherfuckers, man. And then there was uh a lightsaber, lightsaber um training. This brothers killing that shit. The lightsaber training. This brother con is fire. Lightsaber training. Yeah, like yo, and Redman was there. Red Man was there with me.

SPEAKER_08 27:33

I believe you. I'm in it, I'm in a group chat.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:36

I mean, we just got woke recently. I'm in a group chat with like people who work in Lucasfilm as super Star Wars nerds and a couple famous people that I don't want to put too. But it's called Star Wars Bros. Till recently, we just we just changed it to Star Wars fam because we had to be more inclusive.

SPEAKER_06 27:51

Inclusive.

SPEAKER_09 27:53

Again, where they've always been exclusive. I mean, it's gotta include a fuck, man. I'm gonna go kidding for the third time, bro. Yo, check this out. By the way, I want to give a shout out to Lanny Smoot. You know who Lanny Smoot is? The black man that invented the fucking lightsaber. He's still alive. He's a toy man. He invented the lightsaber. You haven't seen the video of him? He's like maybe, he's gotta be almost 70. And he goes, I invented the light, and he he made it. They hit it. They hid it. He invented the lightsaber. I want to circle back.

SPEAKER_08 28:26

I want to circle back before we keep going, because I I mentioned a paradox of tolerance. Yes. When we're talking about freedom of speech. And uh Carl Popper's paradox, uh, Carl Popper's paradox of tolerance states that the unlimited tolerance must Okay, start over. Yeah. Carl Popper's paradox of tolerance states that unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance, as tolerating the intolerant destroys a tolerant society. Which means that we are we are obligated to not tolerate intolerance. Right. You know, fascism must never rise again. We must never tolerate it. The whole never again shit. Like, you don't have the right to walk around saying I'm a Nazi because we already know what path that leads down. Now, in this country, it's legal to be a Nazi. You have free speech. True, true that. Not in Germany, though.

SPEAKER_09 29:19

They hate that. They, but, but it's making a comeback.

SPEAKER_08 29:23

Yeah, but in Germany, no, I mean, the the fascist right wingers still have political power, but legally on the books, you can't legally be a Nazi. They fly confederate flags instead.

SPEAKER_09 29:32

Yeah, yeah, there's still, there's still, there's still, they still, it they don't stop doing it though, even though they're embarrassed by it, but they're still, you know, you know, there's always a march somewhere, there's always a sect. And by the way, the skinheads is they culturally appropriated that from the Jamaican ball headed dudes. They did. They took it from the Jamaican dudes in the 50s. Yeah. White dudes stole that. It's just like the swastika, which is a Buddhist symbol. Yep. They took that. I said, How are you white supremacist and not using any white symbols? I mean, even though it's not a job. Like, use your own, like, come up with like maybe a mayonnaise jar. Mayonnaise jar. A mayonnaise jar and the helm's come up with Hellman's Hellman's go crazy. I mean, no. Or the fighting Irish symbol, you know, fighting Irish dude. Put them up, you bustard. And you know, and Saint Patrick was all about the getting rid of the pygmies. It wasn't about snakes, it was the pygmies that because Ireland was occupied by these the Twa people.

SPEAKER_11 30:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 30:50

You know, that's what St. Patrick's was about, driving out the snakes. It was the black folks. Yeah. It's like all of this shit has been black-based. It's like the Umpaloopas were slaves. That's right. In the original.

SPEAKER_08 31:00

Don't go back and read that Charlie and the chocolate factory if you don't want to be a chance. Chocolate for real. Yeah, it's terrible, dog. The Umpaloopas were black slaves.

SPEAKER_11 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 31:07

In the old, the original shit. Black slaves. Willy Wonka was a bastard. It was a fucking bastard, man. It was a colonial bastard. Colonial bastard, but they changed everything. And this little killing people's kids and shit. Dude, the ice cream chuck song is a fucking slave song. Sure is. Ling, ling, bling, ling, bling. Yeah, it's a slave song. Sure. Yes. It's a slave song. Picnics. Pick a nigga. I was going there next. Picanegger. Picnics were having people say we come picka nigga. And they would have, they would eat while black men were being hung. This is American history. This is real. Motherfuckers need to know this shit. It was always black based. Everything was about black people. Like, you know, they there's a book called Delectable Negro. Yeah. About they would cook and roast, like eat us as uh delicacies. Pickle jar our fucking penises. Yes, sir. This is real. You hang somebody and castrate them. Your obsession with penises. I had this joke, I have this joke. He sees me perform. I have this joke where I go, I swear, if I if I look at every white man, if he had a thought bubble, there's a black penis just not a black penis singing Sashmot. And no disrespect to Saschimo, the greatest black player ever. But I just it's just funny to go. It's just with white gloves, there's a black penis glove. But a black penis. With the white Mickey Mouse gloves.

SPEAKER_08 32:33

Which and those white Mickey Mouse gloves.

SPEAKER_06 32:36

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 32:38

Is because of black face. Blackface. And black performers.

SPEAKER_09 32:42

Back then they were. They had to wear the black gloves. Yeah. There's the 30s. When they start drawing, they was drawing black people. It was, it was, they were always obsessed with shitting on black folks, they're not even around because they wouldn't hire them for shit. But they would just make fun. Make fun. To bring it back to that Chud dude, because what I want him to get so badly.

SPEAKER_08 33:02

What he does is he follows black people to where they at. They've they come to where where we're at. That's the thing. Like that whole like following us, stalking, they really just be stalking us. They really be super obsessed with us. And I'm glad you brought up the penis shit because a lot of that shit just be, they just want to rape. They want to like that's what that shit is really the underlying.

SPEAKER_09 33:23

They want that.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

They're obsessed with. Yeah. I accidentally started a whole riot at City Hall one time. Because I it was a cop thing down there in Ferguson. All the police was down there protesting about something. And me and my boys was up in there. And I was supposed to be more civil when I went up there and you know, go up there and talk about the facts and the numbers and the community. And I said, We really here because they don't want black dicks going to their white daughters. And they fucked up the whole city hall. Yeah, you fucked that one up. They was trying to you shouldn't have said that.

SPEAKER_09 33:53

Yeah, yeah, man. Fucked up the whole city hall. Max chills. He was like, this because you don't want your black dick in charge. Yo, white daughters pussy.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

You should have seen the other activists. They was looking like, what the fuck was like there was a way to do that. You went off spring. You just mad because you're black dick.

SPEAKER_09 34:17

Well, Senator. There's a way, there's political jargon. Um, this is a kind of a professional career. So you don't want my bones. You don't want the black tea bag on your phone head.

SPEAKER_08 34:36

You're like, okay, there's a wonder's a tea in a place. Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad I unblocked you, bro. I'm so glad. I wouldn't have got this. Good conversation. So, so me and Godfrey known each other for a long time. You ever you ever accidentally blocked someone on your phone? And you don't know that they blocked? I'm sure you're not gonna be able to do that. And you just think that nigga don't fuck with you no more.

SPEAKER_09 35:00

Dude, I was trying to, he would go like this. Yo, what's up, man? Where you at? This number is like what is wrong with me?

SPEAKER_08 35:07

I had Godfrey blocked on my phone for five years. Damn.

SPEAKER_09 35:12

And I would only see him at the balloon. I would see him. I'm gonna see him for the end of seeing him.

SPEAKER_08 35:17

I'm I'm I'm in New York, I'm doing the balloon on the light. He's doing the or Florida. I see, I'm I see or Sacramento. I'm running to Godfrey in the streets in real life. Like, bro, I tried to call you.

SPEAKER_09 35:29

I tried to call you. You got the number. I go, is it blah blah blah? We look at the phone. He's really weird. He's a real street. But that's my man. Just see him in the street again.

SPEAKER_08 35:48

I would contact. I hit Artie for quiet. Yo, is Godfrey mad at me? No. Give me Godfrey number. I get the number. This is the number I got. What's this number? It's this number. What the kind of sh is he in the tunnel? I'm he's in the table. I'm like in the cynic Jewish person in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_09 36:14

This nigga got doomsday bunkers and shit. Don't worry. I'll just go. I'm gonna see him. I'll look up at the blue note window in the glue. Yo God!

SPEAKER_08 36:22

And that's how that's how you fucking weirdo. That's how our relationship has been for the last. So I'm glad I got your number. Now you get to do my podcast. We got to schedule some shit. We scheduled a meeting. We ain't scheduled a link up in like five years, money.

SPEAKER_09 36:36

That's hilarious. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_09 36:41

Yeah, man. So I mean, uh, all that leave black people alone shit and uh the fucking I do the work. Your online shit.

SPEAKER_08 36:49

It's you told me you've been leveling up from the time you went on that Shannon Sharp interview.

SPEAKER_09 36:53

Yeah, but I it really started during COVID. When COVID hit, man, I love Dame Dash. I don't give a fuck. He's just so his arrogance.

SPEAKER_08 37:04

Let me see you by the Apple, nigga.

SPEAKER_09 37:08

And he's been around. And you he's been around. He has proof he's he was in the mix. He was around. But I just love his Harlem, just all that. No, he's like, I don't talk about another man. That's gay. No, that's I'm from Harlem. That's some gay that's gay shit. He's hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 37:25

Like, I just love his whole just whatever. Did you see the new one? The new one where the nigga said Jay-Z can't dress, and he after you wore the button-ups, and then he said, Look at my shorts.

SPEAKER_09 37:36

Yo, he's he's still I know how to dress, nigga. Look at these shorts. Yo, he goes, Yo, this I made these. I made these. I made these. He's a mine. He's a dame. I'm not I'm not gonna go buy Nike. I am Nike. Yo, that's dumb. You're gay if you're gonna buy Nike. You're gay. That's gay shit right there. Yo, I buy I made my own. I have to go buy. I just made the Dame Dash, the Dame Dash dunks. The D D Ds. It's like this. Pause. Pause. My son makes his own shoes. Any father that's buying his son's shoes is gay. You're like, wait, what? Remember with whoever was Charlemagne was like, so wait a minute, man. What are you saying? Yeah. So you say, you know, I have a little witness. You say you're saying, so you're saying, um, though if I have a nine to five job, I'm gay? He goes, yeah, you're gay. I'm like, my father worked. No. He's like, I'm a boss. You gotta get boss. A boss doesn't go to work. A boss doesn't do that. You're gay.

SPEAKER_08 38:32

You're gay if you're going to get a job. You're gay. He's so fucked. I once worked for Dame Dash for a month. I've never told this. You're not an underling. I've never told this. I've never told this story publicly. And I'm not gonna tell it today. I'm told him the story ended, it ends crazy. It ends too crazy for the internet. You know what I'm saying? It's one of the wildest stories. It happened.

SPEAKER_05 39:02

Dude. Yeah. I didn't know if he was 12 hour uh fucking with Dave Dash or Su ignite.

SPEAKER_08 39:10

One day, this story's gonna come out. Yo. But I've had I've had close, I observed Dame Dash from close proximity.

SPEAKER_09 39:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 39:20

And all I could say is God bless Dame Dash.

SPEAKER_09 39:23

My thing is, I I love Dame Dash in his way. He has great ideas. I just like how he's just he's just so he's just in his own way.

SPEAKER_08 39:30

He does inspire you with the gift of the gift of gag.

SPEAKER_09 39:33

He inspired me, he's the inspiration to me getting online. I was watching him, he was like outside barbecuing, little bucket hat. And you know how you watch people's lives, and the dude is like, yo, man, what's up, D? What you doing? And he's like, yo, it's COVID and shit. What the fuck are we gonna do? He goes, What the fuck you think I'm gonna do? He goes, like, let me tell you something, man. He goes, let me tell you something, man. He's like, yo, everybody is sitting on their ass right now, man. I say, I'm from Harlem, I keep things moving, right? He goes, everybody's sitting on their ass, they at home right now, man. If you create, if you ain't fucking creating, you're fucking dumb. You know, and he was right. He goes, everybody's at home. No, nobody, there's no production shit, there's no movie, nothing. Motherfuckers is is doesn't know we we don't know where we're going with this with the shit. But if you're creating, we should be online right now. You should be fucking creating content. You're dumb. If you're fucking sitting around, and I took it and ran. And he was fucking right. Shout out to Dame Dash. And I said, Yeah, man, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get on live. I'm good at the live shit. That's my thing. I don't know the other shit yet. So I said, let me get on live. So I would get on live around 11, 12 at night and shit. I just get on live. And then, you know, you just start talking to people. I would, Keith Murray, he caught, he caught on, because everybody was around. Keith Murray, I get on with Keith Murray and Shang and all different comics, and I was just on there talking to the weirdest motherfuckers. I did it every day for two years straight. I never missed a live. And I gained like almost 400,000 followers, and then from there, you know, it was 2022, when we were kind of getting out of it, I started watching King Batch and uh this guy, kid named Renny, who looked kind of looked like me. And one of my boys was like, yo, that dude, there's a dude named Rennie, man. He looked like you, man. You should do something with him, you know? He's a bouncer, my boy Stephen King, rest in peace. He's like, yo, you should you should do something with him. I say, yeah, let me let me see this kid. Oh, this kid is funny as fuck. He does kind of look like me. He's from Queens, man. And I sent him a message and said, hey man, we need to link up. He goes, God, what up, man? Let's do something. He was 23 at the time. And we started doing a thing where I play his stepdad that don't give a fuck about him. And we just did that. And I'm always eating potato chips. It's real fucking hilarious. I haven't seen his face. And he's like, Dad, I was like, yo, I'm just on some chips. And it was just, it went, and we and it started going viral. Like, people were like, yo, the shit you do with the Renny, do you? Is that your son? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's my son. But it was, it went so well. I started doing a bunch. Renny started it off. And I said, Yo, Ren, are you friends with um King Batch? You know, King Batch. Yeah, King Batch. It's great. King Batch is my man. I'm gonna hook you up. So King Batch. Like, God, what's good? I say, yo, I'm in New York. He said, Yo, if you ever, when I come to New York, I'm gonna let you know. He comes to New York at the Knickerbacker hotel. He's oh, yo, we're in the Knickerbacker. Me, Safari, conceited, all of a sudden, we do, we shoot and come through. So I come through, I go over there, I get my shit. I go, I gotta get this before he leaves. So we go in there and I say, yo, and everybody just shooting. You know, pop Vasquez? Pop all of them. So I go, yo, I got an idea. I'm gonna play the noisy neighbor shit. I don't know if you've seen that. So I'm I'm just my head was shaved. So and I come in, I go, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be a guy where you guys are making noise, and I come in, I say, yo, could you keep it down? And I'm just gonna be real petty. I'm gonna hear every little dumb thing you do. So the first, we shot this shit in 10 minutes. I come out, I go, yo man, right? Conceeded opens the door. I go, hey man, you guys are a little loud, man. I'm trying to sleek mine. Close the door, man. And oh, he's like, my bad. Boom. I open the door, I go, yo, who's showering, man? Who's showering? Yeah, you shower's a little loud. Can you put it on t maybe something like that, man? So I come back, yo, who's doodling? Who's doodling? Who's doodling, man? He's like, yo, who's doodle? He goes like this, what are you talking about? Yo, man, your splashes is mad loud, son. I'm trying to sleep, man. Your doodles is mad loud. Shit is and then Kazita goes, yo, man, your doodles is mad loud. And King Badger's like, what the fuck does that mean? You heard what the fuck I said. Your splashes is heavy, baby. Yo, yo, take the doodle, hit the side of the bowl, let it roll into the bowl, man. Let it slide, let it slide into the bowl. What? I said, let your doodles get the side of the motherfucking bowl. Let it roll into the bowl. I'm trying to sleep, man. Fuck out of here, man. Yo. So we did that shit, right? Edit it down the next day. Now I forgot all about it. Next couple days, I'm walking down the street, and you know when city workers stop you. City workers don't give a fuck about anybody. Speaking to the real people. Yeah, they got pensions. Yeah. They got they ready to get this motherfucker in a garbage. You know, New York garbage trucks are the ugliest garbage trucks in any city. The doodles on the side of the bowl. I can't make this. And I was almost, I was like, this, what are you talking about? Motherfucker, your shit is you, they it's me, it's viral, dog. Doodles on the side. So I have all these garbage doing yo doodles on the side of the pole. Nick, I we it that shit was hilarious. And I saw it, I said, This is what it is. That shit is so viral. Dog, I was five million the next day.

SPEAKER_11 45:04

Damn.

SPEAKER_09 45:04

I was like, what, Facebook? Everything. I go, what? And King Baxter was like, I told you that's how it is. So then I do another one in LA at his house. Again, it's me. Yo, man, could you guys keep that down? Yo, you loud and shit. And King's like, I've seen that dude before. Yeah. I come back out, man. Yo, man, what the fuck, man? Who's thinking, man? I can hear your fucking thoughts, bro. This shit is mad loud. And then the motherfucker writes in like a neon. I go, yo, who's writing in neon? It's just son. It's just it was so petty. So that's and and I just learned and I started. So I was going viral so much. Then I started, that's when my shit started building up. I was working with these younger cats because the people from my era, our era, motherfuckers don't want to share. Everybody's especially comedians. I don't want to. My intellectual property. These motherfuckers eat, man. They let everybody's getting tons of fucking viewerships. Everybody's making money. They're so inclusive. They go, yo, what else you want to shoot? That's King Batch, one of the nicest human beings. Yeah, he's a great dude I have ever met. He's so such a good dude. And he would just, because he came off the vine shit. He was kidding, you know, he's a film major. He studied film in Florida. He's he's Canadian-Jamaican. You know, he's Canadian-Jamaican. And he is just the nicest dude. And he shared stuff with me. So he started doing stand-up and shit. I started giving advice and stuff. He's working with Joe Coy. But he, it's his crew where I started to really understand the social media and watching him work and just making up, you know, just he's a workhorse. I say, yup. And that's how I got my shit just started growing. Then the club Shay Shay, but that's when they snatched my account. Yeah, you were telling me that. I was closing in on a million, they took my shit. Damn. Man, I welcome to the club. Right. And I said to start from zero. That's why. Right? And then I was on Club Shay Shay, and I say, hey, man, man, they took my shit. And you know, Sherry Shop, like, we're gonna get you, we're gonna get your account back. Club Chay Shay, we're gonna definitely get your account back. Don't even worry about that. You know, yeah. When I was in the NFL for a long time, and I'm gonna tell you something. Sometimes you gotta take a law.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

And it wouldn't be. It's too good, man.

SPEAKER_09 47:26

They like, it's spot on, man. So but that's how I got on Shannon Sharp's show because I was on, because he heard I was imitating him, and I was on, you know, Roland Martin. Yep. Roland is my dog. My dog, Roland, Roland, Roland, I'm on his podcast, and Roland cut, you know, he's me, him, and Shannon Sharp on an audio. And Roland's like, uh, Godfrey, uh, you know, you do Shannon Sharp. Can you do a little something? Oh shit. So I do a little something, and they go, hey, Shannon, what did you what did you think about that? And Shannon goes, you know, back in the day I used to hate that. When people imitate me and everything, I used to be, but I realized, being in the business, that if you once you get once you get to a certain level, it's like a compliment. It's a compliment, because that's a big motherfucker. I don't want to whoop my ass.

SPEAKER_08 48:14

Did you ever see the tape of him talking to Scarface and he couldn't pronounce my name?

SPEAKER_09 48:21

Yo.

SPEAKER_08 48:22

You seen that before?

SPEAKER_09 48:23

I cannot wait to see that shit. It's like the beginning of your one hour. My mother. What'd he go? He goes, Taylor.

SPEAKER_08 48:36

My mother was so upset about this. She was like, who is this person? And why? And I was like, mom, mom, my mother's a teacher from New York. He's from the South, oh shit. He's from the South and he plays football. He don't have to know how to say my name. She was like, no. What did he say?

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Ladies and gentlemen, give it over dad. He was talking to Twilight Clarlib. He slaughtered that man. Calibian Twilight. He was talking to Clay. Twilight Calabi.

SPEAKER_08 49:02

He was talking to Tyler Qualaby. Okay, so the name of this clip is Shannon should be banned from talking.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

He was talking to Carol Shannon. This shit is dope now. You know. This next um guess is the year in 2001.

unknown 49:17

You be whole BM prodigy with the leap cool.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

I was at the crib watching this shit. Yo, his teeth hit his tongue hard.

unknown 49:30

You be ho be prodigy with the leap cool.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Flux capacitor.

SPEAKER_05 49:43

Flux is somebody capacitor in the front park.

SPEAKER_08 49:46

I don't care if he if he don't know how to say my name. If you're talking to somebody about the best MCs, you have to include my name whether you know how to say this shit or not. Word. And that's how I do it.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

It's like, man, there's um LL Ku J, there's um, there's Rakim, then there's Talib mm. There's mm, there's that, there's that, there's T. T. Quali.

SPEAKER_09 50:10

I'm gonna tell you that. He's one of the greatest. Um him and uh most deaf. And top, man, I'm gonna get this name. Uh Talib. He hit a punctuation. Right. And a scar face. He took a scarf face. Scarface said, What did you say?

SPEAKER_01 50:29

Know it damn well. Yo, that was great. Yeah. That was great, Tally. He said, Tally, mm. Let me get some of this cognac. Welcome to Club Chase. See, now I need to be on Club Chase.

SPEAKER_09 50:41

You can't be. He's trying to do image, he's like interviewing a lot of rappers.

SPEAKER_08 50:44

I mean, look, dude, I'll say this. If Blueface could be on it, Lord have mercy.

SPEAKER_09 50:49

But guess check it out.

SPEAKER_08 50:51

I had Blueface on People's Party, too. That's a wild interview. Go back and watch that.

SPEAKER_09 50:54

Were you there for that, Theo? But check it out, though. The people who do my social media now are the ones who created Club Shay Shay. So I'm gonna definitely link to it. Let's fuck up, bro. Let's do it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_08 51:06

Come on, so let's do it. I need to bring my mom so she can get at the store.

SPEAKER_09 51:09

Dude, this um, ladies and gentlemen, this, and you know, he reads his thing. This he has been in a rap game for over 25 years, got hit albums.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

He's a producer, activist. Give it up. Give it up for my man. My man. Most deaf. His friend.

SPEAKER_09 51:28

Most deaf friend. Most deaf.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Most deaf friend. His boy. Uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:35

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Oh my goodness. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_09 51:41

Oh my goodness. I love Shannon. And when that whole shit that happened with Shannon and the little white girl and shit, but they had to, because he's he's, you know, in a certain level. So they use that. And and and then when they were talking sexually, you know they talk. That was normal talk.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Because he'd be like, You want me to choke you? You want me to choke the shit at you?

SPEAKER_09 52:00

Don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

You want me to grab your nick. And then I want to listen to Tyler. Went up grabbing your nick.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_09 52:14

And I told Shannon, I saw him at the NFL weekend. I was at the NFL weekend in February. And I said, Shannon, he had a little party. I said, Man, make fun of yourself. Just fucking clown yourself. And it'll go away. Don't go, don't go, don't go against it. George Michael is the perfect example. Because with George Michael, rest in peace with George Michael, you know, when he was in the bathroom, that motherfucker went on a I'm make fun of myself tour. He goes like this. Oh, I like Willie's heaven. What's wrong with that? I love public P and he says, No. He and they loved him right away. Joke on your shit. Yeah. And he did it, and he's he's killing it, man.

SPEAKER_08 52:48

Godfrey, you talk a lot about growing up watching television. Oh man. Mother was into TV.

SPEAKER_09 52:55

Mom was a TV. She could watch three soap operas at the same time.

SPEAKER_08 52:59

My mother, my grandmother, Javodi Green, was on um what was that soap she was on? Which one? Oh, it was a big one. She was on All My Children? No. She was on Guiding Light. Guiding Light. My grandmother, Javodi Green, was on Guiding Light. Your grandmother? That's insane. I can't look that up. Recipes to Woody King. Okay. He just passed away. But my grandfather, Stanley Green, used to work with him and the Ozzy Davis and Ruby. They used to live next door to Ruby and Ozzie up in New Rochelle. Right? And um you talk about the Mel Watkins book often. Oh, oh, Mel Watkins.

SPEAKER_09 53:29

On the real side. On the real side, laughing, lying, and signifying the history of African American humor from slavery to Richard Pryor. Yes. I read it in college.

SPEAKER_08 53:37

So you're like an expert on television and you're an expert on comedy. I want you to give me what do you think are the best top 10 sitcoms of all time?

SPEAKER_09 53:47

Sanford and Sun. Yep. Yes. All in a family. Yep. Good Times. The Jefferson's. Shit, different world. Let's see. There's a lot. Oh, oh, wait, wait, wait. Three's Company. Um shit. Three's Company. That was my shit. Jack Tripper. Right. Shout out to John Ritter. What a rest. What a talented.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

Come and knock on my door.

SPEAKER_09 54:16

We've been waiting for you. Where the kisses are.

SPEAKER_04 54:19

Hers and hers and his. Three's Company 2.

SPEAKER_09 54:24

Come and dance on our floor. The regal baby that is new. With your lovable face. The space that needs your face. Three's company too. You see that life is a ball again. Laughter is calling for you. Down on our rendezvous. Three is company. And that was a British sitcom called Man of the House. Man of the House. And you know. And then it was Three's a Crowd. Three is a Crowd. At some point. It was okay. But Mr. Furley came and knocked it out the box.

SPEAKER_08 54:54

It was the Ropers, right? The Ropers. They had a break off Ropers. They break out the Roper show. And then Don uh what's his name? Don Knott's. Don Knott's. Same birthday, July 21st. Same birthday, okay. The Ropers had had to leave. And then they came in. Man, Suzanne Summers, man. Like she was a breakout star. She was a breakout star. Remember when she left because they wasn't paying her. Yeah, they were. And then they just try to replace her with a different thing. All these other Terry Star.

SPEAKER_09 55:19

Terry Gar, Terry, Terry, whatever. The girls. Cindy. Yeah, yeah. Cindy. Yeah. The goofy one. Yeah. But yeah, it was like the talent level, because Joyce DeWitt was always this mainstay, Janet.

SPEAKER_11 55:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 55:32

Who I love, Janet. Yeah, it was like the dark-haired girl with the fucking zero, zero, the zero, zero little um pajamas. She was crazy. Yeah, but um Norman Fell, who played Mr. Roper, was on Dragnet. That's right. He was a serious actor first. But only Ragnet. Remember Dragnet. No, my mom, my. Just the facts, ma'am. But our right, that's the fact. Just the facts, man. That's Jack Webb. That's the facts, ma'am. Thank you. Because my mother was a my father was a news guy. He was all news. Most Caribbean, African news. My father was all I that's why I know all newscasters. John Chancellor, Walter Cronkite, Bill Curtis. My father was a news motherfucker. And my mother was comedies, dramas, black and white films. That was my and my and so I know all old school Marlena Dietrich, Claudette Colbert, Clark Gable. My mother would question me on stuff from Citizen Kane. Who's that lady? Who plays the wife of um Orson Wells? Oh, that's Phoebe from all my children when she was young. That's my mom was an almanac of that shit. And TV was our thing. And there wasn't as many channels either. Yeah, three. Right. So you had a TV guide, Wonder Woman coming on.

SPEAKER_08 56:46

You and me the same age. There was a point in my TV watching career where not only did I was I able to watch every single show on TV until TV went off. But I also, every week, I read the TV guide from cover to cover. Because they always had good information.

SPEAKER_09 57:04

I read TV Guide cover to cover every week. It was so interesting because they'd have this thing about, I remember this one, it stands out. Were the Flintstones based off of the um honeymooners? Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Because it was Barney Rubble. Um Fred was Jack um was um Jackie Gleason.

SPEAKER_08 57:20

It was the honeymooners, it was prehistoric honeymooners. That's right.

SPEAKER_09 57:23

1955, 39 episodes. I know the honeymooners from the you talk about funny? Art Carney? Oh man. Joyce Randolph, who just passed away, she was 97. Art Carney, Jack Gleason, Audrey Meadows played his wife, and she ended up on um Three's Company later in her years. So you know, Lucy O'Boy.

SPEAKER_08 57:43

I love Lucy as in my top 10. I think.

SPEAKER_09 57:46

Yes. Yeah. I love Lucy. That's gotta be in top. And uh, I think the honeymooners for me too. Yeah, because I watched the shit out of the honeymooners. Only 39 episodes.

SPEAKER_08 57:55

Yeah, man. You talked about um soap operas being stored. Did I name all my 10?

SPEAKER_09 58:00

I don't know if you made it to 10.

SPEAKER_08 58:01

I thought I did, I did. You stopped at Three's Company, you named a lot.

SPEAKER_09 58:04

I didn't think I did Sanford and Son, I did um um um All in the Family, Cosby, Cosby, uh Good Times, Jefferson's, um And then you added uh uh Honeymooners. Yeah, Honeymooners, I did Different World, I did um shit. I did uh Threes Company Um Shit. Happy Days wasn't that bad either, shit. Yeah, happy days for that. Happy Days was about shit.

SPEAKER_08 58:31

Go back and watch the pilot episode of Happy Days. How good was that? So good. How good was that? So good.

SPEAKER_09 58:36

It's like an hour and a remember. They they addressed racism.

SPEAKER_08 58:42

On my list, I got your list is very similar to mine, but on my list, I also got I got the office on my list. That's awesome. I got Martin on my list. Yeah, Martin. Other than that, our list is pretty similar. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 58:53

Oh, but Martin, I'll probably miss some, but of course that was dope. Some people have family.

SPEAKER_08 58:57

Martin, Martin is this Martin, Martin wasn't, Martin is not by all means a perfect sitcom. Not at all. You know, but it's the audacity of what Martin was doing that he changed the game. He changed. Even when the plot didn't make sense, when it was ridiculous, when it was cool, he was just he changed the game.

SPEAKER_06 59:13

Changed the game. That's probably my favorite overall TV film.

SPEAKER_08 59:16

And and Martin sacrifices everything for the laugh.

SPEAKER_09 59:21

No, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_08 59:23

Costume might not look right, shit might not be right, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_09 59:27

Yeah. Frazier was a sleeper. Frasier was fire. I like Cheers better than Fraser. But yes. I liked when they came in piecemeal with Woody Harrelson, and and I like when Frazier was just like comes in every once in a while. Cliff Claven was my motherfucker. Cliff Claven. Yeah. Maybe that reminds me of a story in 1955.

SPEAKER_08 59:51

And the toy story. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 59:54

But he was so fucked.

SPEAKER_08 59:55

Yo, that's Normie.

SPEAKER_09 59:57

Yeah, cheers, George Went. Yeah, they were great sitcoms because it was open season. It was like we addressed real shit. It's like, bring it back. Comedy's suffering, not standard, but comedy's suffering because people are being phony, and the people that are executing this are trash. It's like, let's get real, let's get back to real Maud. There was a lot of great sitcoms.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:19

What came out of Maud? Good times. Good times comes out of the game. She was the maid. And then and she got Maud is B. Arthur? B. Arthur? Golden girls.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:27

Golden girls. That's another beast. Classic. Golden girls. Golden girls might have to be close to the top. But why is Golden Girls good? Because it was old bitches to keeping that shit real. Right. It goes, what do you want me to throw? I don't bleed anymore.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:39

And Estelle Getty, Estelle Getty was the old played the oldest, but she was the youngest cast member. She was the youngest cast member. They just made her up. Yeah.

unknown 1:00:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:46

See, I know my TV show. You know your T. Come on, dog. I know my TV shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:49

You know who else knows the TV show? Snoop Dogg. Oh, yeah. That motherfucker knows. I remember we when we were doing Soul Plane. I'm sitting next to her, I was the co-pilot and that shit. You know, and he was like. Hood classic, by the way. Soul Plane is do a redemption. We I don't know why Kevin's waiting on Soul Plane too as a gig. It'll kill. Stop trying to avoid it. Do it again. Everybody's doing remakes of shit now. And Soul Plain, let me tell you something. Me and him were talking about Saturday morning cartoon. To talk about Snoop and Saturday morning while he's smoking weed, he goes, Hell yeah, Scooby-Doo, nigga. Hell yeah. It was always the same motherfucker. The ones for those goddamn kids, I'm gonna get away with this shit. It was the best shit. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, TV was was is what made us. Yeah. Because when I'm listening to Talib or Mose or all you guys, you guys, the references, we we reach from all the TV shows. We reach from like like one of the best references was um Triumph when Guns of Navarro. Yeah, when Method Man said Guns of Navarro is an old cowboy movie. Damn, that was brilliant with Anthony Quick. Guns of Navarro. Guns of Navarro. And I go, let me hear what he said. Guns of Navarro. That's an old movie. He grew up on television.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:08

Forgetting Western. That's Saturday afternoon theater on. Except on Channel 5.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:14

And you gotta understand the references of old school rappers is really intellectual shit. Because you're talking about guys born in the 60s and 70s, and we're we're reaching back to Clark Gable, and I'm like Gable and blah, blah, blah. You're like reaching back to 1930 films. Lauren Hardy and Three Stooges, and do they understand that? Yep. You know, the references are crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:37

Yep. The Stooges used to come on TV once a week. Three Stooges. Oh man, come on, man. Ours. Hours.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:46

What does the Three Stooges mean to you in terms of how they influenced comedy?

SPEAKER_09 1:02:52

First of all, slapstick is not easy. And they were masters. You have Curly Howard, Mo Howard, Shemp Howard were real brothers. Curly died early, then Shemp took his place. They were all real brothers. Larry Fine was the friend. Then there was Joe Best. He was all right.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:07

Joe Best was like, oh, that hate. Don't hit me. That hate.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:11

Right. They couldn't fuck with Curly or Shemp. Curly was the. So it it taught you physical comedy. Because they were, and and I saw the documentary on the Three Stooges, because I love Three Stooges. And there were guys before them that didn't really make the cut. They were like, ah, these guys ain't doing it. So they brought in these New York little Jewish guys to come in, and they got the whole and all the physical shit, and they became the Three Stooges. It it taught me physical comedy from Buster Keaton to Charlie Chaplin, who was one of the most brilliant physical, you know, um comedians. And, you know, in black comedy, especially physicality is our shit. That's why Jim Carrey was, we love Jim Carrey so much because of the physicality. And Jim Carrey is the black people made Jim Carrey famous. And he never forgets that. That's right. SNL didn't want him, but Keenan said, Oh, no, no, no. Get that white dude right there. He's the first guy I opened up for was Jim Carrey. Because I saw Harlan Williams yesterday at the comedy. And he's like, hey, buddy, how you doing, buddy?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

Oh, what's up, buddy? Haven't seen you in a long time, buddy. Gotta do my podcast.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:14

And he's, I know Harlem. You know how long I've known Harlan when I was, I only had 10 minutes of comedy in Chicago.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:20

I used to see Harlan Williams on TV when stand-up was just like, you know, yuck-yucks. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like live from the comic strip from the NBC.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:30

Harlan is a good dude too. He's he I so I opened up for him at the Illinois Institute of Technology. My friend was running the whole student activity. She goes, You want to open up for Jim Carrey? I said, What? Fuck yeah. He was an inspiration physical. He's a physical genius. I said, Yeah, I love him. He's like an inspiration to me. Of course, Eddie Murphy, you know. I said, but Jim Carrey, physically, I want to be like that. And I opened up for him, the nicest man in the world. And yeah, that's, you know, that's yeah. So that's um that's very significant.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:03

Yeah, I was I was saying um when you were talking about soaps earlier, you were talking about they were stories for like the younger. We call them stories.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:10

I gotta watch my stories.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:12

So I feel like this current generation of hip hop-based podcasts is like stories for niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like we're talking about shit that like, you know, when you see like Joe and Jada, when you see like, you know, Maino and them, it's like, it's it's kind of like, you know, these storylines that are developing, it's like the little like like fissions in the relationships and seeing how that plays out. Yeah um you started a new podcast, which is not about that at all.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:42

No, this is called 155 and One Continent, 54 Countries, the African diaspora with Akbar B. Jamila from the NFL. Yes. He played in the NFL with the Raiders and the Chargers. Um, he was uh the co host of American Ninja Warrior 14 seasons this guy. Yeah, he was on ESPN as an analyst, and he was raised in Crenshaw, Nigerian American. I was raised in Chicago. And CJ, who is one of the creators, and Heather, they're creators of uh Club Shay Shay, came up with the idea. And he's from St. Louis. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:19

The guy who created Actually, I think I uh You might know. He's from the Lou. I've been following that brother before for a while, I think. Right. CJ is a behind-the-scenes guy. And he's a really invested in the community type of cat.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:30

He's a dope dude. He's so brilliant. And all those questions are all him writing it. He's a guy that don't want no, I just produced. And he goes, What do you think about this one? What are you about? What do you think about this? Her. Yeah. This her. Her. He goes, like he goes, um, here's one. Uh, how about a podcast with you and and uh Akbar, Nigerian Americans, and we we interview people from the African diaspora, just actors, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:00

I said, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:03

That is phenomenal.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:05

Not just phenomenal, necessary, important.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:08

Because what we're trying to do is bridge the gap between black people everywhere. Black Americans, Caribbeans, diaspora. Very Pan-African of you. For real, thank you. And we need it because we eventually want to bring in Caribbeans. We want to eventually bring in black Americans because we because we want to know. But the beautiful thing is black Americans go, yo, man, I'm 35% Nigerian. I'm this Congolese. Oh, you made it. You're part of it. So we that's our hope. Wait, so what's the cutoff? Cutoff? You said 35%. Something like this. I'm in on 5%. You don't believe. Oh man, sorry. You ain't make it, Brad. You failed, brother.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:47

I seen um you had the young sister Yaya who played in the Whitney music movie. And bro, I like what hearing her speak on your podcast, because I saw that movie and I enjoyed her performance, but I was not, I would not have gotten that she has so much knowledge in her. When she was on your podcast talking about talking white, what's talking white? It's like you asked me that in English, bro. We're all talking white.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:09

That fucked me on. Oh, yeah, the talking white, it's it's just, it's, it's, uh, it's just that, that, that brainwashed slave mentality, like you're talking white because that was what the what the elites taught how they talked. So, as a black slave or whatever, you know what I mean? That was me. Oh, you think you're better than us. It was it's all from it all trick is out from slavery and oppression and degradation and years of that. So you go, you're talking white. You know, it's dumb to say that because I'm being clear, because this is what they're speaking. So if I'm in China, I'm gonna I'm gonna speak proper Chinese.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:48

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:49

You know what I'm saying? So that European colonization had domination for centuries makes you being the that's the top of the top. But there's so many whites that don't speak good English, just have speech impediments. Like Tom Brokaw, who always had a fucked up speech impediment, but he was the head news guy.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:08

Even why they call us niggas is because they don't know how to pronounce shit properly.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:12

Right. You know what I'm saying? It's facts, it's facts, and it's like you know, as a person that spoke properly all the time, you have to understand most um, I would say most immigrant children that grow up in America end up speaking really proper because our parents speak the King's English. So my father would be like, why? Why are you what? And so it it it's so it translates into proper English. It's not about, oh, you did you live around white people? I said my friends were mainly black and Latin, all kinds of shit. It's just the way my dad, the way we interpret it, it comes out proper. And for me, I I get that too. But you're Caribbean.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:51

No, I'm not. I'm American. Both my parents are teachers. Yeah, so both my mother. My mother's an English professor. So I grew up in that house. De Chappelle, kind of West mom. That's where that comment's mom.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:02

That's where the wording and the you see because my parents be like, no, we don't say that. Yeah. You know, my mother hits me up every week.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:10

I just on your podcast is so good. Do you have to say the n-word so often? And can you have more female guests? Because I noticed when you have women guests, you and Tef don't say the N-word as much when you have women around. I love it. I'm like, that's because that's not niggas. Oh my God. Yo. Yo. I'm looking at Dr. Green. Shout out to Dr. Green on the Dr. I'm in consciousness of the fact that we watch Dr. Green.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:32

So I'll be I've been cleaning up my language since since I was confident. I the N-word has always been this thing, man. This I have a whole thing on the N-word, my my version of it, that it's like you look at all the racial slurs, and the N-word is the Nike of all racial slurs. It's Nike. Because, you know, just do it. Just say it.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:54

Yo, I seen you saying some shit on a podcast the other day talking about how white people are, how they're so creative with the slurs. They're unreal.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:02

They're so brilliant. They're so good at hatred that they just get so creative. Like jungle bunny. Fantastic. I mean, porch monkey. How about this sand nigger? They they they know it's sand, the you know, Middle East. Sand.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:19

I did a show in Utah once and I was backstage, and a white girl came backstage, and she said, Hey, I had never seen you perform, but you were great. I thought, because your name was Talib, I was coming to see a sand nigger. Oh my god. And everybody in the room was like, What the fuck did you just say? She said, Oh, no, no. I'm not racist. I have a color TV. And I chuckled a little bit. She's trying to be funny. And then I kicked her out of the room.

unknown 1:11:44

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:44

I did laugh at that color TV. So I was like, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:48

That was hilarious. But you gotta go. That's a hell of a way to introduce yourself to like. Asians is like Asians like goop, zipperhead, and it's like, you know, you got camel jockey for Indians, camel jockey, wetback. Fucking there's so many.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:02

Wetback is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:02

That's an ass, bro. And there's there's so many words, mud sharks, they say too for black. Mud sharks, tar baby, tar baby, uh, spear chucker. Spear chucker. Well, you do chuck a spear if you're throwing it.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:16

Louis CK got that great bit. Oh, you call me a cracker. What you do? Ruin my day, you right, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:22

Cracker. Oh, pecker wood. Yeah, not that great.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:27

I always use colonizer and wipe away. That gets under their skin.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:30

That does that upsets them. I do, I do gum rubber. Gum rubber because their lips are really thin. Right. And then to the to the fucking gum rubber.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:39

When you think about that dude who be talking about the chip out shit, look at them lips, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:43

But no, chimping out, when people say monkeys, I go, first of all, they've proven that whites, their chromosomes are closer to monkeys than where we are not even close to Neanderthals or monkeys. They are. And when you shave a monkey's hair, it's white skin. All right? And their lips are thin and they take shit that don't belong to them. So they're not.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:00

I just heard a story. There's a monkey civil. There's a monkey civil war that's happening. Did y'all notice? Yeah, I know about that. There is a monkey civil war that's happening in the news. A monkey civil war?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:12

A real like the monkey. Like two different spider monkeys.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:16

The planet of the apes is about to start, basically.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:18

Or basically fighting each other, killing each other.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:20

A violent civil war among 200 chimpanzees in Uganda. That's scary as fuck. Has revolt has resulted in 24 deaths, adults and infants, since 2017. This has been going on. So it's like real Planet of the Apes. They're really smart. They talk. They got beef. They know what's got beef? The chimps got beef. Chimp beef. Now that's chimping out.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:42

For real. But but it's so, and you when you see a woman like an old white woman, her mouth looks like a monkey's mouth. The little wrinkles. No, it's true. They got pictures of it.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:52

I know. I said, I said Nazis. You've seen, I've said Nazis, this meme on Substack of the meme with the monkey mouth with the old white lady. Yeah, oh right.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:02

It's just amazing how they, because it's they see the skin. But I've seen whites that look like monkeys, like facial features and stuff like that. But we're not even close. We don't, we're not, we're 100% human. The European is 97% human, 3-5% Neanderthal. Yeah. That's they just proved it. And and Asians are also with their Neanderthal.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:21

Now your people are Egbo, right? Egbo tribe, my friend. You were in a unique position to talk about colonialism because of the Biafra War. Biafra, you know. And and break some of that down for the people who don't know that what the Biafra War is and how it affected your family.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:36

The Biafra War was a tribal war, and they were coming after Igbo's at the time. And my my relatives told me, like, my last name is Dan Chima, but we are Chimas, actually. My father took his father's name and added Dan to it. Daniel and took Dan Chima so they could escape. So it wouldn't be as Igbo sounding. You know what I mean? So they were coming at it, it was tribal wars, like the Rwanda thing with the Tuts, was it the Hutos? Hutus and the Tutsis. Yeah, so it was the same kind of thing. So, you know, and I was, and you know, when you learn about it, they're like, damn, you know, tribal wars. So they got out, my parents got out, and uh, I ended up being, my sister was born in Nigeria. I was born in Nebraska because my father was there in school. So they did whatever the hell they could to get the fuck out of there. And then we all end up growing up in Chicago. My brother, we're all in Chicago, but this is all of this. You look at what my parents, what do you go, whole, and this is not an uncommon story amongst a lot of people who had to get out of, you know, war situations. So that was it was serious, man. You know what I mean? So yeah. I wouldn't be here on this thing if it were my dad's ingenuity and like, oh, let's get out.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:49

You know what I'm saying? Man, I wanted to ask you a question, but I want to preface it with thanking you, first of all, because I did start following you over the pandemic.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:57

And it was a lot of funny stuff there, but what motivated me was I was like, man, this is a person with a big platform, not shying away about from talking about colonialism.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:07

And really kind of exposing that to a broader audience, I feel like you, Nipsey Hustle, um, I could even say Killer Mike, these black men, make it to the popular sphere and say, you know what, I'm not gonna do art for art's sake. Uh while I'm doing this, I'm educating them and letting them know that hey, I'm different. It's a, it's I'm a glitch in the matrix. Uh what made you be like that? What made you decide to get to that close to the damn enemy line and say, you know what? It's time to really talk about it.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:39

College. Um, when I was like, what, 17, 18? Um, we started and I went to the University of Illinois, so it's you're talking about big Big Ten University, PWI, predominantly white university. So I, you know, I was playing football, blah, blah, blah. Whatever, Illinois, okay. Um, and we it was white as fuck. Uh, and we were like, oh man, we had an African American Cultural Center, and we would go there. It was underfunded, of course. But um, I was like, yo, and we all, the girl I was dating at the time, all of the black students were like, yo, because we all, it was only 800 of us out of the 40-something thousand students. So we're like, hmm, let's start a, let's we should start like reading books on our own and shit like that and learning stuff. So we, you know, we start buying books at black bookstores when we go back to Chicago, because I went away for college, and it's champagne is about two and a half hours away. I know about champagne. Champagne or banner, yeah. So we would go to black bookstores, slowly buying stuff, like, you know, of course, autobiography Malcolm Axe, and you're going to James Baldwin. Lose for Mr. Charlie, go tell it on the mountain, you know, Hill Street could talk. Then we were like, oh, Chancellor Williams, destruction of black civilization. Stolen Legacy, Black Athena. You know, we were it's just it was just then we had ISIS pay.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:01

You're speaking right to me, because you know, this is all the things I used to sell at the bookstore. Me and Miss Hill went to see Francis Crest Welsing at Boys and Girls High School speak. And then I stood in line to meet her after.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:14

And that's so funny because shout out to uh Francis Crest Welshing. She was, you know, she was kicked out of Howard for her philosophies and social. So she came to our school. I have pictures with Francis Crest. So she came by, ISIS Papers, boom, and even Martin Lawrence in um boomerang. Remember when he did the thing with the pool balls? That was ICIS. ISIS Paper stuff. And so that I brought, we brought Sister Soldier to our school, Kwame Tore. Stokey Carmichael brought him to speak to our school. We had um Eleanor Holmes Norton, who's still in the Senate. Uh we had uh Daruba Ben Wahad, who was in Graffini Shakur. He came to talk to us. So we were bringing these people in. We did it. We pulled our little money together. We were all broke, but we got these people. We had Azwa Kwazy, who is um um pre-slavery history, African history, stuff like that. Ajua Quasi and Fundishi and Patanishi. We had like, we were doing political prisoners from Puerto Rican to Native Americans. So we this was our our group, and we're like getting all this now. And then we would go, I would go back, we would go back to Chicago, I'd go see Farrakhan, Mr. Farrakhan uh Savior's Day. I'd go see him live. Like, you know, because you know, my parents were like, what is this who is I'm going to see but he's I I think he doesn't like Jewish people. I said, I don't think, I don't believe that. I'm gonna let me go see for myself. And it wasn't true. It wasn't true. He was just, you know, listen, I'm not a Muslim or anything, but my boy, shout out to Ray Westbrook. He's Ray Muhammad now. He's one of the creators of this book club we had. He protects the minister now. He's FOI, one of the heads of FOI. And so we I would go see Minister Barragon. This is when he was younger. Now I'm talking about when he was if I never see you again, this government is not your friend. Mark my words. The honorable Elijah Muhammad has taught me. I was that was what I was watching. This man from the Bronx, yeah, from St. Kitts, who was a master violinist. If you've seen his violin skills with his brother, Lewis Walcott, Lewis X, then to Lewis Farrakhan, who was behind. If you see Malcolm X, you see Lewis Farrakhan right behind him, 19 years old. But he was also a calypso singer first. Calypso singer. So I was why I was going to see him live. You know what the hell that does to you? To see him live and tell, and you're in a white university, and he says, you got to tell these white folks, you a proud black man, and you sitting there dogging your black woman, dogging your black man, shame on you. And you're like, yeah, you're like, you don't understand. You go back to college, like, and then look, and we're listening to public enemy. Right. And we're watching Spike Lee movies.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:16

This public enemy is sample in Farrakhan.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:18

And they would play, remember they would intelligent hoodlum? Tragedy Kajaj. Yeah. So we would they would play the speeches over tracks. Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, blah, blah, blah. And you're listening to Public Enemy, all this shit, and you got racist white motherfuckers in your dorm room. I remember I was.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:36

But this was like higher learning out this motherfucker. It was higher. It was literally higher learning.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:40

Because I remember when they'd be like, hey, you guys gotta turn your music down. I remember we was on the and we were in Bland Newbie. We're in we're in black medallions, Africa. And we'd be like, yo, make us, man. Make us stuff, man. We'll fuck you up in this dorm, bitch. Like we had the RA going, no fuck. I go, no, fuck that. You playing your fucking rock music, which is black, by the way. You know what I'm saying? Jimi Hendrix is the best guitarist ever. Not no white dude. Fuck Stevie Ray Vaughn. I knew all my music. Fuck Stevie Ray, fuck Jimmy Page. No, fuck Keith Richards from the Bro League store. You know I love them all. Fuck them all.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:18

You was making a point. They were just symbols at that point. It wasn't pretty.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:22

And I remember my roommate, and his last name was my first Joel Godfrey. Nicest guy in the world. But he put a Confederate flag in our room. And I remember the Q de Mark. If I came in, they was like, yo, what the fuck is it? And I was in the like, oh shit. Because I had my side of the room, which was Bob Marley, Jackie Robinson, Malcolm, you know. And he put a cut.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:44

College roommate shit? That's diabolical, bro. Like, yo, the shit. I think about some of the shit I went through. Yeah. Yeah. You having to live with someone in the room, and that's your roommate in a room next to you. You didn't have to navigate that space. No niggas can portray one of the world.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:59

Like this is my side of it. I was college for real. I was in a triple, man. And this was like freshman year. And you know, it was like like higher learning. Like, yeah, because all the fraternity, I hung, we went all the we all hung with each other. We did all the black parties, Kappa Carnival. It was Black and Gold Weekend, A5A06 with 1911, Q Dogs Omega. We had the Nivine Nine, AKAs, SG Rose, Zeta Phi Beta. That's why I know everything about that shit. We had even had Iodified Theta, 1962, the Brown and Gold. So I know all that. My friends were everything. They were Qs. I got friends in L, all the frats. But that was our protection too. And you had the black athletes, the ball players, too. So, you know, sometimes, you know, if my people got out of hand, we go, we're gonna fuck you up, man. We'll beat your ass over here, dog. We're not, and you know, you know, we're pro-black too. I said, My man, we was all of us was like, even the girl was dating, we was like, man, I'm I will knock you down. Yo, son. We was like not having that white boy just like, man, we beat your fucking ass. And one thing about Chicago is motherfuckers can fight. It's like, yo, and we were, I was so militant, like, but not militant, just aware. Because you're learning all this shit, and you're like, what? And that's when I first ran into Nelson George's book.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:15

Bumpies, big boys, baps, and boho's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:18

So I was like, who is this?

SPEAKER_08 1:24:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:20

I was like, let me get that book. You ever see his documentary, Brooklyn Bohem? Hell fucking yeah. That's a good one. And I was like, Nelson George. So I was like, This Nelson George is this shit. I read his book, then I finally end up knowing him later on in life, you know. He's on the films now. Yeah, and I go, Nelson, you know I got that boohoo's bath. He goes, Oh, you got that? Oh, yeah, that was my first book. Wait, that's a great Nelson George. Just like Nelson George. Because he's we're at the same gym. He goes, Yeah, that was my first book. I remember, I remember writing that. Like, I remember, I remember, I remember write that. I can do that. I remember writing. Impersonate, I can embody people and just get it. But yeah, I was, and so just all the knowledge I had reading all these books. I read every book Malcolm X that Malcolm X was in. Malcolm X speaks in Harvard, Malcolm X on African, I read everything. So I was like Tony Morrison, Sulla, Blue Histie, you know, from Else War. I was reading, you know, Langston Hughes and you know, the Harlem Renaissance. I was hit it, baby. You know, just reading and reading and reading and reading and reading. And that's how all of that came into play. And, you know, I, and I was, it wasn't a hate of of white folks at all. It's just hate what your actions are, not what you look like. You know what I'm saying? And and we dealt with black folks that were selling out too. Like there was also within intra-racial fighting, too. There's that. There's the Africans versus the African Americans, the black African, you know, there's that clashing of the two. That's pretty much how I got soul playing, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:58

Because when I auditioned, everybody was doing, you motherfucker, blah, blah. And I said, and I went into the audition, I said, hey. And my boy Ulysses, who's from New York, knew me. He was the guy was the casting director. I said, I'm gonna do an African accent. They said, What? I said, Yeah, everybody's doing the motherfucker. I said, Snoop Dogg is the guy from the streets. Yeah. If I play an African and we already have, we already have butt heads, the comedy will be better. Yeah. So I went in and I got the part in the room. They were like, God, that was funny. And then that's why so playing, I was that shit's memorable. Yeah, man. Because he was like, Man, shut that African ass shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:33

I was like, you quiet.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:34

Shut up. You didn't got. I was doing all that shit. And it and Snoop was in tears the whole week. But that's but that's it was that we were dealing with.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:45

The unlocking like Dr. Naeem Akbar on breaking the chains of psychological slavery when he was at Florida State. Yeah. He came and spoke to us. Um, I mean, it was, I was locked the fuck in, man. And that's why when people talk about me, even in the comedy, they'd be like, you know, you're measuring my blackness. I go, my man, I know more about your people than you know about mine. Because I remember, you know, you remember I'm starting comedy in Chicago, and it's Bernie Mac's Club. It's Bernie Mac, you know, Cotton Club. Me, Deion Cole, we all, me and Dion started pretty much the same day in Chicago.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:19

Shout out to Dion Cole. Dion Cole is my mate.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:21

He'd be like, yo, you gotta come do my podcast. You gotta come do my podcast, Godfrey. You know, I can do yeah, Dion is my man. Like, and I brought Corey Holcomb into the game because he used to work, play basketball with my brother. I knew Corey as teenagers. I was baseball, he was basketball. So they Corey went to high school with dudes in my neighborhood that I came up with in preschool. They were all ball players. I was baseball, football.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:49

You gotta stop talking about Corey on my podcast because then he's gonna get mad at me.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:53

No, because Corey was, you know, Corey's been going off on me and all for no reason, but uh, you know, I'm like. Man, I don't even answer any of that.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:01

Um, shout out to I want to shout out uh Akeem Woods. Akeem! It's a very good comedian. Um gay comedian. Very good gay comedian. Yeah, yeah. And and and I've I've learned a lot from him. And um his uh friendship with you seems to be very upsetting to Corey.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:21

Because one thing about gay friends, they'll tell you the truth about behaviors. They'd be like this. He goes, he's always because one time Akeem got really angry and said, Corey's always like, always has his mind on gay people. See, those are the dudes we look at. Those are the ones that be suspect. It's those, it's that behavior. And you know, and so Corey's talking about me in some kind of way. Because I call this, you remember, I call this podcast live.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:45

Because he because he said You and me was talking about that around that time. Yeah, because there was in the chats, people say, yo, Corey's calling, talk dogging you. I said, is he making fun of me? I don't care. That's why I like Corey, because he makes fun of people. And y'all came in again, they go, no, he's saying you gay. Like I said, what? Is he fucking around? No, it's real. So I said, I call Corey, because our our podcasts are at the same time. His is at seven, uh seven, mine's at 10. You know, because I'm three hours uh ahead. And so I called him in the middle of his podcast. I said, yo, Corey, what's up, man? What the fuck are you talking about? I'm gay. He's like, he's like, God free. He said, you got you, your ass is gay. You said you had a gay roommate. I said, gay roommate? I said, what the fuck are you talking about? I never had a gay roommate. Right. If I had a gay roommate, I would have said something. He goes, No, you had a gay roommate. I said, no. You're talking about my boy Modi, Jewish cat. He's one of my best friends to this day. And I I my boy Modi, his name is Modeki, he's killing the game right now. He's married to a he's married to a man. Modi didn't come out. We were when I lived in Harlem, we were at the comedy cellar, and these girls were fucking with us. Like after the show, Modi used to Modi would be with badass chicks all the time. His yeah. And so it was these two girls flirting with us. I was with the friends, they were, you know, public display or shit like that. And then Modi's like, yo, we need to take this girl and go. We need to, you know, finish the deal. I said, Oh, you just come to my apartment, let's go. I was in a brownstone. So I said, yo, you get the living room called, I'll fucking go in the bed. So we go in there, you know, it's 15 minutes in. They sit out here arguing. Like, yeah, I was like, what the fuck, man? It's three in the morning. Like, yo, what the fuck are y'all fighting about? And he goes, This girl, she sits there, she's kissing all over me. She's kissing me. Da-da-da. You know, what the fuck? He's being real, Jewish. Like, can you believe that? All day long. And I get here and she's bullshitting. See, Godfrey, that's why I fuck men. This is the reason why I fuck men. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:56

So he came out to you now.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:57

He came out right there. I'm like, oh shit. So I start laughing because it's hilarious. And the girl goes, ew. Yes, I fuck men. Because a bitch is like you. Wow. It was hilarious. And I go, Modi, damn, you didn't know you were bite. Yeah, but I'm in the synagogue. I can't fucking say anything right now because I'll get kicked out. I'm a canter. He's a cantor. So I was like, oh. And the girls were like, ugh, I go, I guess later. Yeah. He likes men. Just took a turn for the moment. Godfrey, how do you deal with this? I'm a heterosexual. I gotta deal with women's bullshit. Right. I'm not gay. I'm just not gay. So that's what that's the story he took and twisted it, saying I had a gay roommate. I thought, no, I never had a gay roommate. I respect the motherfuckers that come out. Like Akeem came out after a while. And I was like, how did they not know your ass was gay? You sound like you stand like danger-prone Daphne and Scooby-Doo. You know, when she stands like danger-prone danger prone. You stand like a Hannah Barbera character. So, yeah, so yeah, man, that whole thing, and you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:03

Well, I appreciate the way you handled that. I mean, because Chicago comedians have always had a lot of love and respect and camaraderie for each other. And you can see that, and it's special, especially the black comedians, which it's very special. And we're different. Yeah. I don't like seeing that, and I like the way that I like the fact that you handle it with love.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:22

And I still I don't have no beef, Corey, because someone asked, because Corey has been like talking about he's been apologizing, like saying what he said about Jamie. I just saw videos on him. Oh, really? I saw someone sent me a video of someone asking Corey, like, I guess he was taking QA at his podcast. He said, Are you gonna have a makeup with Godfrey? I don't know. I go, I don't have a beef with you. You made it up. Right. I'm not doing any work on this. I'm not gonna go back to the city.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:46

I see what's the dude, Craig, who be with him. Craig, Craig, Craig, I see, I see Kate, Craig trying to like Yeah, and I get Craig's break down.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:54

But my thing is I didn't do anything to you. I did nothing to I'm not gonna go. Let me go. I don't have to do any of that shit. Because I didn't do anything to you. You know, I know motherfuckers that be having beefs with me. I don't, but I don't do nothing to y'all. I'm not in no circle, I don't even do shows with you, motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:12

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:12

Because that negative ass energy, I know what it's like to come out in the black circuit. I came out, you know, the night, you know, the circuit in the 90s was wicked this circuit now is trap. What? This is easy shit. We came from the what? Yeah, the you're talking about like Bernie Mac? You don't understand. Everybody has a story when Bernie would go up and host. So Bernie's destroyed. When I tell you, destruction, bruh. You he brings you up, they still laughing.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:38

The motherfuckers like, whoa! Oh, this nigga. All right. Bernie was, I'm talking raw Bernie, not famous yet. So this is what we were dealing with every Monday. Bernie, then DL comes, then Cedric the Entertainer. Talking about beasts? Fuck you talking about. There was a lady named Simply Marvelous. I remember her. I know her. What? Yep. She was so goddamn funny. She'd be like, hey, I love Miss Samel Koo, Jay. I might not be in a round away girl, but I'll be an up-the-block bitch. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I seen her do around the depth game. I'm sorry from Deaf Jam, too. And she was really funny. Older lady. Rest in peace. She was fucking funny. And a Delga. We had monsters. I'd be like, you think this is funny? What?

unknown 1:34:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:26

And even Steve Harvey. Are you serious? Steve, Steve, I always use this one time because Steve would come in a suit. Steve is the same guy. Yeah. He's just richer. He never changed. Steve would come in. I remember in Chicago, Steve packed, you know, always in a suit. I remember this motherfucker was heckling him. And Steve was like, hold on. Yo ass, your ass, what's your name, dog? Yo ass been talking all goddamn night. Right? He's like, first of all, your ass ain't dressed. Everybody in here is dressed to the nines, but your dumb ass. So he killed him. He's fucking him up, right? He goes, When you walked in the club, they gave you a chair and me and Mike. That was the clue. That's the coldest comeback I ever heard. And the push, you know, black man.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:15

You ever see Steve Harvey uh get mad at Pusha T? Oh no. Hold on, I'm pulling. Hold on. Hold on. See, I love how you play this shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:26

Yeah. I love how you play this shit. He had it already pulled up. When you said up. But it's pulled up. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:33

I don't I don't pay for YouTube. No, no, I'll watch. I'll let everybody watch a movie before the next video comes up. I watch a whole movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:46

Usually you're in the rap lyric. They're talking about you in a rap song. Do you know how that don't move the needle in my life?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:53

I remember this.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:55

You know, I they've said negative about me in rap songs. They said positive shit. Most of it's cool, some of it ain't. Do you think I care what a rapper thinks of me? A rapper, dog? I don't give a shit what a singer thinks of me. I don't really give a fuck what a politician thinks of me. You know what Joe, I heard Joel O'Sing, one of my favorite preachers on TV. I love this dude. Joel Oldstein.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:23

Steve Steven's back on the series show now. We have the word of the day on Joel Olsen. We got the Joel Olstin part out.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:32

That's rich man talk.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:42

We know.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:16

He promoted him with all of his heat baby. What's your team bigger?

SPEAKER_09 1:37:28

Oh my God. That's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:32

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:33

Man, got free, man. Yeah. Thank you for being early on People's Party.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:41

Oh, yeah. I was the first, kind of one of the first. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:45

Uh, thank you for being early on this podcast.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:47

Again.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:49

I'm glad I got the right number. Jesus. And you're not blocked anymore.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:52

You're blocking me. You're so bad. You're pathetic. I tell you, Talib quality. Quabily. Whatever it is. You are so bad. No one can pronounce the guy's name. They don't care. You pronounce it. It's Talib. Is it Taleb Taliboli? Quality. Quality. Talib quality. That's it's a great name. He's quality, alright. He's a great name.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:19

This is the closest you're gonna see that me having a conversation. Well, with Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:23

Ain't never gonna happen. Qualibbi Talib. It's a great name. That's fantastic. Very black. I feel it. Why can't your name be Marcus? But it's Talib Quality. It's like Barack Obama. Very strange name. Yeah, he's gonna be believed. And most definitely, you guys are great.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:46

The black star. Love it. Man, that Trump shit. I seen you and um was it Adam Ray? Woo!

SPEAKER_09 1:38:53

Doing the angry Biden at the comedy store. We did that December 9th. It rapped. That shit was crazy. And it was our first time doing it. We're like, let's just do it. He had the telebron, and that shit, we rep. Because they were like, because everyone's like, yo, Shane Gillis is Trump. I said, I went head to head with Shane.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:09

Shane's pretty good. Shane's is great. I mean, Shane got it, he got a handicap because, you know, he's white. You know what I'm saying? But then I was like, but your Trump is monstrous.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:18

But this is where I told you the black thing comes in. They don't want to give it because you're just a black guy doing it. It's still, they still can't, they can't get out of their own way. Because like Frank Caliendo is I've been friends with. On Mad TV. Frank gave me some compliments. He goes, Man, your Trump. And Frank is a beast. Is Morgan Freeman?

SPEAKER_08 1:39:37

He used to do Trump. Trump! He used to do Trump, right? Frank used to do Trump?

SPEAKER_09 1:39:41

Not really. He did George Bush.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:42

George Bush. Yeah, that's what it was. Insane. But he That Morgan Freeman, I'm not ready.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:48

Morgan Freeman. It's a white dude doing Morgan Freeman. And it's Charles Barclay. He did Charles. One time he was on ESPN on Mike and Mike. Remember Mike and Mike? Yeah. It was the real Charles Barclay and the fake Charles Barclay on the phone. No one could tell who was who. Tears were running down. That's terrible. That's terrible. I'm the real Charles Barkley. No, you're not. I'm the real Charles Barkley. Holy shit. And it you couldn't, this is how good he is. He's doing black voice. It's just it's vocal cords. But everyone's caught up in this. That's why in voiceovers, they won't, you know, they they'll say, like, there was the Trump show. I did the Trump show on Showtime. It was uh animation. It was like two seasons. I did Barack and Corey Booker. This is the Showtime one? Yeah, I did Barack and Corey Booker. And I my Trump was better than the guy who's doing Trump. Right. Because I was in the booth and I just fucked around. I go, this is fantastic. I think was Colbert involved in that? I don't I think it was Steve Colbert because I was like, I did a Trump, and the guys were like, what the fuck? I'd be like, I'm I'll dust your boy off. But he's white. It's just like the guy doing fucking Cleveland is a white dude. We could do black voices, but we just had a whole conversation. We just had a whole conversation about this. Man, they gotta get it.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:58

So we saw, we saw, we me and Tef were watching Hank Azaria on Kazaria doing Apu. We were watching him on Neil Brennan's podcast. Right. And Neil was like, you know, what did you go to when Apu got canceled? And he talked, Hank found his brilliant. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. And he talked about being angry and feeling like feeling like the victim. And then he had to like unpack and learn about racism. Well, why is it that this is the only representation? And where are my blind spots? And I didn't know that they hadn't done Apu in nine years. He has Apu hasn't spoken in nine years. There was a documentary made that questioned why Hank Azari was doing Apu. And he said he never really thought his white privilege kept him from thinking about that. And he's Armenian, actually. Yeah, but still, you know, he got the white privilege. Um, but he's protection for the protection. Complexion for the protection. Yeah, yeah. If if if there was an activist school and there was a grading on being intersectional, he would have got straight A's with the way he answered the question.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:58

Oh right. He read his laps.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:59

Yeah, he he was like, okay, you know, I was tone-deaf and I, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:03

And you're making this money too? Yeah, he got it. You're gonna be like, are you dope?

SPEAKER_08 1:42:07

But he talks about he did a character in Mystery Men, which was like an Indian character, which to the naked eye might have been an Indian character, but he said he was copying Peter Sellers from a movie he saw. Oh, wow. Because he grew up on Peter Speaker. And he's like, I watched him process the idea of I grew up as a guy who does voices, but now I'm in a new world where I have to be cognizant of shit that I wasn't cognizant of.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:30

Because my thing is getting Indian Indian actor, there's plenty of them that do it like an authentic whatever.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:36

But he talked about that too. He said it wasn't just the voice, because Neil was like, just get somebody else to do it. He said it's not just the voice, it's also some of the stereotypical things Apu, the character, was doing. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, it's and Apooh's hilarious.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:46

Those cartoons, you know, they go all out and make fun of everybody, which I like. Yeah, but as far as work given work, it's all white men, stop. Like you're doing Cleveland, yeah. So black people can't do black people, like it's that race, it's like it's embedded in their DNA to go, I you I can't let a black guy do a white voice. It's a voice. Yeah, you're caught up in it, man. It's bad. Because I was like, my Trump dusted this motherfucker. They were like, I was like, I'll dust that motherfucker off. Yeah, but they had me do a Barack, which was fun. Uh, I just want to say, I did that. Boom. And I did Corey Booker. Can you believe this? This nation, our democracy. I did that. Jesus Christ. I did that. And it's like, it's just a voice. But in their head, they think something's being taken from them. White men, some white men, it's they think because you've gotten everything, you cheated. You've cheated, you've boxed everybody out. It's like sports. You didn't let nobody play ball till black dudes showed up and we dusted you off. Because you don't play even. You never fucking play even. You know what I mean? I even told my white friends, here it goes, watch. I even told white dudes, let me tell you the ride the reason why you date like black women and all this, because we fucked up. Because if you if we were perfect, you would never have a chick. You lucky we ain't shit. Damn. A lot of times they go to you because it's a safer bet. Oh, you get into it. And they're mad at it. I went, I went to, because one dude was getting real arrogant and shit. It's that great replacement theory you get into. I go, yo, I go, you lucky. Cause man, we're a problem when we walk in the room. You understand? That's why you be holding your girl tighter. You understand? And we're the ones that they tell us, tell their daughters to stay away from, and we still get you. Right. You know how many women I smash, they go, You're my father. Well, I go, You right here. Suck it. That's cool. That's called black power right there. But I'm saying, think about that. Yeah. You're the you're the feared one, but you still max somebody down? You know how much game you have when everybody's against you?

SPEAKER_08 1:44:49

You said that to me on the phone the other day. You say, you know how much game a black dude gotta have to fuck a girl whose father said, I will kill you if you fuck this guy.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:57

Do you know how much and but that makes them want to explore when you say, I told white white dudes that you're gonna teach your daughters, don't be so angry at them about it. Don't bring it up. If you keep going, stay away from them, they're gonna come over, dummy. You know what I mean? But I'm just saying, I'm not saying that there's all white dudes that don't have a game, but I'm saying most of the time they're going over there because they're mad at us. I go fuck what nobody says. And they know it. I say, you know, you with the goofy motherfucker over there. Oh, I think it's cute my boyfriend has no rhythm. Really? That's fucking cute. And this is what some of these fucking abused fucking brown women do. I think it's cute that he's offbeat. The fuck are you talking about? So a guy that can dance, that's weird. What the fuck are you doing? I keep it 100. Fuck that. You know, you giving him confidence? He cornball. Fuck are we doing here? I'm I keep it 100. I say you lucky we fucked up. Because if we were, but we're fucked up because it was designed for us to be fucked up. Imagine if we had your head start, you'd be in trouble. Right. And no matter what economic status we are, we've always got game. I know motherfuckers that were janitors, fucking rich broads. Motherfucker moping the floor. All right, miss. I'll see you later. Mackin game with a mop going, you looking, ooh, yeah. Fuck you talking about. You live in a mansion, motherfucker live in a studio apartment, smashing your woman on a futon. Fuck out of here. Black men are a problem. Love it. Fuck that shit. Because I come from Chicago where Mackin is real.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:29

You're talking about Bishop Don Juan, who was the biggest pimping. He he knew me as an amateur. You want to see a motherfucker in a green suit mack a woman down? The fuck are you talking about? I was around that shit. And crazy looking dudes going, yo, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:43

In the respiration video, which is black and white, Common got on a green fur coat. And I'm a Chicago niggas, man. I remember.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:51

She was like, yo, nobody told me it's gonna be black and white. I didn't agree.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:55

That's hilarious. That's hilarious. But I'm saying you come from a town where motherfuckers' game is real. Used to open up like handsome motherfuckers can spit that game.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:06

They used to have to do comedy shows in front of pimps.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:08

That's what we did. Yeah, it was all pimps. It was it was it was the Chicago Bulls, it'd be Michael Jordan and all them, Ahmad Rashad, there'd be Bishop Don Juan, real pimps that would be like, oh, get the fuck back on the street. Fuck I told you. That real shit. That's why I said when women talking to me crazy, they go, Who the fuck are you talking to? Like, I'm not a I'm not no punk. Don't talk to me like that. You're not used to real motherfuckers from Chicago. Because you you you want me to text you. The fuck out of here. And they said, you know, Scott Gallo, that, that, that psychologist, yeah, he goes around on platforms going, manhood is is is being damaged because, and this is talking about all men. The average man from 18 to 35 is a is terrified to talk to a woman now, to just go up to her. So they got this thing on TikTok where you they take a picture of a woman and it says, TikTok, do your thing to get the name of the and they're in the same room. That's crazy. This is how scary they are. But I see, I understand where it comes from. Because you got women calling you bruh. This girl called me bruh. I said, Who the fuck is a bruh? Fuck out. Who are you talking to like that? Bruh, you're not cool like that. You're not a fucking man. And even uh Ayanna von Sant, she had a whole group of beautiful black women in the room. She goes, Let me tell you why you all, as pretty as you are, all fucking single. Because you talk to men like you're a man. No femininity, nothing.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:31

You talk crazy to men now. Shout out to Ayanla. She's coming to Cure Books. I sold her first book, Tapping the Power Within.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:39

Man, and she checks men too. She goes, You all are beautiful, but you talk to men crazy. It's insane. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, man, we gotta take back that. You gotta show me some respect, and I'm not respecting you because you got titties. You gotta earn that shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:48:57

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:58

If I open the door for you, say fucking thank you. Who the fuck raised you? You say thank you. I'm not trying to get your number, just open the door for you. You know what I mean? Everybody ain't trying to talk to you, miss. Relax. Relax. No one gives a fuck. In real life, no one gives a fuck. Really, they don't. So I'm just I'm done with that. You come at me straight, or you get the fuck out of my way. You don't make me, I walk by my goddamn self. You know what I'm saying? My mother said I was dope. I'm good. You know what I'm saying? I'm good. My mother was dope. And I'm like, I'm good. So fuck all that. I'm like, all that shit gotta go, man. All these fucking simps, you gotta go, man. I'm being real. You go on to the movies and she your friend, she brings her friend with her. And she didn't tell you. A girl tried that on me and I left them there. You guys enjoy that shit. I asked you to come to the movie. You could have asked, say, hey, can I bring my friend? I would have probably said, no. Right. You know, you didn't ask, you just brought your friend with you. Oh, you bitches right there. Go, go pay for that shit. I'm out. Tell me how the movie was, you fucking clowns. That's me, man. That's me. I don't have to be everybody's type. Fuck that. The world would be boring. You feel me? Shit, I don't have to be here. I'll go to another country. The girls look just like you to actually treat me better. Shit, man. I'm done. At this point, it's like I don't care how you feel. I really don't give a shit. And I don't hate women at all. I'm not a misogynist. You gotta don't conflate the shit. I just don't like a lot of behavior. Like when women complain about men, I totally get it. Yeah. I don't get offended because I'm like, I'm not that guy. Yeah. But I get where it comes, but I'm complaining about y'all. It's too much. You'd rather be a He said, I'm normalizing complaining about women. And you know what Akeem wants? Akeem, Akeem even told me as a gay black man, he said, dude, I feel bad for you. Because they're sitting up there talking to me more than they're talking to you. I could they're that angry. That's what trauma does. Trauma makes you do fuck shit like that. You'll date a gay dude because you hate real men. Done with that shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:57

Yeah, I've seen it. I'm on. And then you're gonna piss Modi off.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:02

I mean, and I would see uh Akeem like getting hit on by women, he'd be like, and he'll call him bitches because he's gay, because he can call him a bitch. I told you, bitch. Right. Not what's fucking wrong with you, you know? But that's trauma. Right. You know what I mean? And I we need to work on that, is all I'm saying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:20

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SPEAKER_06 1:51:32

You recall what I told you.