Episode 5: How To Write A Movie

Mark & Christopher teach you how to write a movie.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:32

Welcome. Welcome, welcome to Mark and Christopher's Guide to World and All Within It. AKA Guide to World. AKA Mark and Christopher Podcast.

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AKA Morning. AKA the morning. Something you might listen to in the morning.

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Yeah, grab a cup of coffee, grab a tea, grab a nice glass of water, like Christopher. Yeah, adjust the camera. Adjust your camera at home. If you're filming yourself listening to this podcast, adjust your camera at home.

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Yes. We love our filmed listeners.

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We love our filmed listeners. Everything's looking good over here. We're considering buying a very expensive light to improve the production quality.

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We've been recommended a thousand dollar light.

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So if you see us with suddenly good light, you know that we broke the bank to make it happen.

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But I think right now you can't see if you're seeing watching any of this, but it's the light I think is good because we're in front of a giant floor-to-ceiling window. It's not studio lighting. But what's better than the light of God? Great question. Checkmate, atheist. This godless man recommended us a thousand dollar light. Not knowing we could go outside for free.

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He's certainly godless with a recommendation like that.

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So I'm done up in my favorite blanket. And I'm wearing a hoodie that I feel completely neutral on. Oh yeah? Well, I like it. I stole it. Well, I had a I did my study abroad in Japan, and then one of my friends, Yasu, who I met over there, came and visited me when I lived in Chicago, and then he left this hoodie here. And I think it is a really great, just everyday hoodie. A good a good neutral wear. So I'm really wearing, I'm really giving background character right now. I've got a gray graphicless hoodie on with blue jeans that fit me near perfect. So you got a pink t-shirt on underneath the hoodie. Yeah, but that's sort of that's sort of hidden for now because that's you peacocking. Yeah, that's yeah, the big pink coming through the the the crew neck of the of the hoodie is a little bit of peacock.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

What's the uh what's on the tee?

SPEAKER_01 3:02

It says a picture of cherry so it says mon cherry. Which I don't know what it means other than related to cherries. Do you speak French? Come on, can you start Canada? What does it mean?

SPEAKER_03 3:13

My dear.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Really? Wait, so it's not related to cherries at all?

SPEAKER_03 3:18

No, it's a pun.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

That makes sense. Mon cherry. Does ches cherry also mean cherry? No. Okay, it's like a it's a joke for English speakers.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

It's a pun.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Got it. So I'm wearing the equivalent of like a bunch of Chinese characters that say kumpao chicken instead of like water, earth, heel.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

No. No. Okay. Alright, then I'm not. You're wearing the equivalent of like um What's the Spanish word for love? Amor. Amor Um, okay, that's not gonna work. Give me a different Spanish word. Just give me a bunch of Spanish words.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Cache Edipicio Mentana Pared uh Piedra Ventilador Ventilador Torre.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Okay, Torre. That means that what does that mean?

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Tower.

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No, I still can't do it.

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Flore. Floor.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Wait, uh what's that mean? Flour. Flour? Let the bodies hit the floor.

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There we go. Got it. Yeah, so it would be it would be uh really just 12 just uh unconnected words.

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Who who made Let the Bodies Hit the Floor?

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Oh frick.

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Okay, so whatever that band was. Oh frick. Whatever that band was, we're gonna put a logo of that band. Is it the disturbed? I don't think so. And then and then uh and then it's gonna be in Spanish. It's gonna say something, something, something flores. Okay. And then it says flor f L O R. Flor. And and it'll s and people will think it says let the body sit the floor, but it won't. It'll it'll say like I bought you, I I I bought you flour. Or I like to bake with flour. Yeah. See, this is these are bad examples just because we're forced to come up with them on the fly. Whereas the geniuses who came up with mon cherie had a bit of time to think about it.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Yeah. Also, nothing funny can ever be said in the moment, famously. It has to be pre-written. Here's another example.

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You know, Cher, the singer Cher. Yeah. So instead of mon cherry, it would be Ma Cher. Okay. C-H-E-R-E. Okay. And it would be a picture of Cher, but it really means my dear. Okay, cool. So that's just another French pun. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's awesome. We like to use the first ten minutes of every podcast to absolutely waste each other's and your time.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Well, here's my favorite question that I want to ask Mark right now, which is I saw you last night, we went to an open mic, but then you mysteriously disappeared, and I'm curious what you did after I didn't see you. What do you mean I did mysteriously disappeared? Well, I walked you back to your apartment and then you said bye, and then it was like I didn't see you for the rest of the night. So I went home. So like what what happened when you went home? Did you watch something cool? What the hell is this? I want to know. Mark and I were on break with between our friendship for 12 hours. I just want to know what happened.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

I see what you're saying. Um what did I do last night? I watched basketball. As I am. Timberwolves. Name some teams. You might land on it. The magic, the heat. The the Orlando. I don't remember even who Magic Heat. I think I was watching the Clippers. Why do they call that? Because it means boat. Oh, okay, cool. They used to be based in San Diego. Damn. Okay. A lot of boats down there.

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There are a lot of boats in San Diego. Alright, Clippers V Dogs. Warriors? Warriors. Yeah. Okay, cool.

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Something like that.

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And who are you pulling for?

SPEAKER_03 7:21

Well, I gotta I play fantasy, so I got this guy who's on the Clippers now. And so I was just watching him really. I was just curious about how he was gonna do. And how did he do? Very badly.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Okay, cool. Very, very, very, very badly. How's your fantasy team doing? Not well. Okay, got it. I win. I win a lot. Yeah, I feel like that's what you told me, is that you're like usually a champion.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Yeah. So this year I've been in third. I just dropped to fourth last night. Oh man. Horrible, horrible season.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Yeah, how long do you have in the season?

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A matter of weeks.

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Okay. Do you think you'll be able to tighten it up? I don't know. Trim the fat.

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I made a good trade.

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Did that revenge body?

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I'm hoping I can get that revenge body. So what did you do last night? You watched neighbors. Watch neighbors. Oh yeah, we talked about the show neighbors.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

After making a bunch of jokes about weighted blankets, I did lie under a weighted blanket. And I ate an apple.

SPEAKER_03 8:15

Yeah, you made a joke. So last night we were talking about weighted blankets. Yes. You made a funny joke. I did make a blanket. Do you want to share it with the vi listening audience?

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Yeah, here's the joke I'm working on right now. Okay. It is um I've been feeling pretty anxious recently. They say that uh weighted blankets help with anxiety. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to weighted blanket myself out of a war with Iran. Good. It's really good. It sounds even better when I can hear the echo of my voice. The issue is I've already heard it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

But I like it a lot.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Dude, me too. Thank you. I had a tag for you. Yeah, Mark wrote a really good tag, which is um uh they say that the heavier the blanket, the more easy your anxiety. I might need a soft anvil. Yeah. I think that one's really good.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Yeah, I wonder if uh anvils come in soft. Um something like that. And then I was writing a joke last night. Yeah, Mark. We went to an open mic last night.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

We busted that open wide, Mike.

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It was one of those open Christopher really making Christopher laugh this morning.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

We busted that open wide, Mike. Great. That's good, man.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

That is that that one is goaded. I'm going crazy. Um we went to this open mic, and uh sometimes an open mic can just be like a little boost of like, oh yeah, good. Some jokes worked or whatever. Last night I would say the vibe had curdled.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

It was kind of hit or miss. You know, I actually I I actually thought the hosts were like really fun and normal and sweet, which is un which is abnormal for an open mic.

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The yard sale gals, their weekly mic at Alphaville. We love the yard sale gals. Love them, love them.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Met them for the first time last night and I love them. They're uh, but yeah, Mark, I think is is feeling like it curdled because somebody spoke during his set. There's a couple.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

This is why we can't let freaks like you in the fucking comedy club. This is why comedy's fucked. Yeah, I was calling this open mic the club.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Oh, great, another fucking heckler.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

But there was, there was truly someone, this guy who was like, he wasn't heckling in the way of like booing or criticizing, but he was like, It's just chiming in.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Yeah.

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And what was crazy is that he was like a comedian. So he had gone up and did a set. I went up right after him, and then at one point in my set he just chimed in. And you're like, I'm working on jokes here. Like, don't chime in. I'm not trying to do crowd work right now.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Your your setup was like like every like salt and pepper. Everyone loves salt but hates pepper.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

So I was trying to just start this joke that I was telling Christopher about last night, and and the joke is basically like, what is happening?

SPEAKER_01 11:05

I feel like I can feel sneeze coming out. I'm trying to make it come out quicker, but it's not working. I think the word pepper triggered me. You don't think about how much you trigger me with your humor, Mark.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

I feel like every minute and a half you're either coughing, burping, or sneezing now. I've not coughed or burped. You have coughed and burped.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

I burped today?

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But here's how you burp. You go. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Oh, I hold it in.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

Out of respect. What is your diet? Out of respect for what is your diet? How much soda water are you drinking every morning? It's the morning. How are you having these burp?

SPEAKER_01 11:39

I wake up, I take the bar gun to the face. I got a little bar gun right next to my bed. Oh, bar gun. And just put the soda water right in my mouth. Suck it down like a hamster.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Never seen someone more choked up with potential burps.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

I don't know what to tell you, man.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

I hate yogurt. Maybe it's because it's a fermented ingredient. I feel like I can see the bubbles going up through your body.

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Hoes always mad because I morning burp.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Morning, afternoon, and the whores are the whores. I said hoes. But yes, technically they're whores. The whores are furious. Hoes are whores. The hoes are whores and the whores are furious about my night burps. I bet you burp in your sleep. That's when it finally comes out.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

I'm definitely a tutor in my sleep. But who isn't? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

Yeah, I'm a I'm a night tutor.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Everyone's a night tutor.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

By which I mean I'm teaching these hoes how to do things.

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Teaching these hoes, and by hoes I mean whores, and by whores I mean teaching them how to do things.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Yeah. But last night I was talking about my joke. Uh we were going through, sort of come up with this joke about how in white culture, the only two spices invited to the table are salt and pepper.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

I think in all cultures, I've never seen uh maybe in like in Chinese, I guess you see some. Asian culture.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Switch it up. But let's say let's say at least at least in white culture, the only two spices invited to the table, the table being the white cookout, are salt and pepper. And the joke is uh salt absolutely belongs. What is pepper doing there? And I was trying to get to, you know, the punchline, which would have been along the lines of uh like uh you know, what did Pepper save salt's life? And then he salt, what do you do? Oh, I enhance the flavor of literally every food. Hey Pepper, what do you do? Uh I could make you sneeze. That's a Christopher punchline. I can make you sneeze a bit. So anyway, I was starting this joke and I was like, uh uh, what is Pepper doing at the table? And before I get to a single punchline, this guy who's just been on stage goes, I like Pepper. And then I just went, uh cool. Alright. And if it had been like a real show, I would have been like, I guess I'm talking to you now. But I was like, I literally have 45 seconds left. I'm gonna pivot to another joke. I don't want to talk like this anymore. The best was at this- I like picked up my ball and went home.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Yeah, I think I think that makes sense. The best was at this one guy came up. Excuse me? Okay, there was a burp. Alright, you got me. Christopher, excuse me. Now that you're aware of it, you're gonna know. What am I supposed to do? Fucking swallow it back and hope it comes out as a stinky, disgusting fart. Is that what you want? Yeah. Alright. The point is that this guy last night he kept um he made a joke being like, I'm sorry, I'm still tripped up. How am I supposed to not burp? Is there a way to not burp? I don't know. You gotta change your diet. It's I gotta change my entire diet to not burp. I'm trying to do it as politely as possible. You're speaking to a mic. I don't what am I I gotta taison day fucking uh speak get away from the mic to breathe? What's he what's he saying? I don't know what you're talking about. You don't know taison chocolate ring. Yes, I know chocolate ring. He says, I step away from the mic to breathe. Okay, you know, gasps. Yeah, anyways. He this guy goes up and he says, uh, he compares his set to like being on TikTok, and he's like, if you don't like any of my jokes, you can just say scroll and and I'll go to the next one. Tyress is set. People kept yelling scroll before he can even get to his punchline.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

Oh, but then he kept going. Yeah, he just ignored them. No, no, no, no, no. I gotta do this one though. It was cute, it was funny. It I and if this guy's listening, listen, I know that you think you gotta get to your punch lines, but it would actually be so funny if you just let people say scroll and then just only did setups. Yeah. Set up a s a set a set full of setups would be funny.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Yeah. And if this guy's listening, I need advice. I know I usually give advice. What do I do about burps? How do I how do I how do I I like my yogurt bowl? All right, one, I like my yogurt bowl in the morning, two, I like eating eggs in the afternoon. Three, I like eating whatever the fuck I want for dinner. So how do I keep that diet?

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Four, I inject a syringe full of only air into my stomach the moment I wake up. How do I how do I tame my burpeeing to make it five to make my community more comfortable around? Five. I soda stream everything that I consume. I'm talking liquids and solids. I'm talking I I soda stream my toothpaste before I brush my teeth with it. I got a bar gun with three buttons breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You're a burper. You're a burper of the highest order. You don't burp. I mean, I burp once in a while. I feel like most people burp as often as I do. I've made you self-conscious.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

I'm sorry. That's okay. It's reminding me of the of the hardest you've ever rolled your eyes at me, which is when I said, you don't giggle. Yeah, you didn't like I didn't like hearing that. I think it hit a spot that hopefully might make you giggle a little more. Probably made you laugh and ease up when you heard that, huh? Probably made you feel really like, oh now I'm gonna move to giggle.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

I think of I think eventually it had a good effect. Yeah. You made me aware. Long term. Long term. Yeah. I I do try to get better at like easing into the moment, living in the moment, which I think like giggling comes from like not being stressed and anxious and like thinking about what you should be doing. It's true. So it did make me aware that I gotta breathe more in social situations and just try to like sink in. That's why I wear my comfy blanket. I like to lean back in a chair. Here's here's my ideal social situation: there's a couch and I get to lie on it, and nobody else is there. Okay, no, but like for real, if there's a couch and I get to lie on it, you'd love therapy. I love to close my eyes and have people cracking jokes around me. This is truly my ideal. And then I can open my eyes and kind of get involved and then not be involved. But I love the not having the pressure of having to be involved the whole time. And I love to lie down. Yeah, like like grandpa in on his deathbed. That's my dream is to be grandpa on his deathbed while my family cracks jokes around me in the waning moments of my life.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Um hell yeah. Shall we get into our topic for the day?

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Yeah, so next week's topic is gonna be how to not burp. It definitely will be, yes. Today's topic is uh how to write a movie.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Yep. How to write a movie. And um for a bit of context, I have never written a movie, and Mark has written about seven.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

No, I've written one officially that I pu that I made with my sketch group almost 20 years ago. Whoa. No, almost 15 years ago. Um, and then uh and then I've been writing movies lately. So as with everything on this podcast, these are not expert opinions, these are more just like uh guesses.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Well how do you feel looking back on your picnic face movie?

SPEAKER_03 19:27

I think that's your first movie. Yeah, so we wrote a movie called Roller Town, and when I look back on it, oh here it comes.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Let's go, let's go. Help Mark fix his diet.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

Please help. Um, when I look back on that movie, I just remember that we were reading like how to write a screenplay books while we were writing it, which is not the right time to do that. You need time to read these books, internalize them. Because you can't be in your head about rules when you're trying to write. Makes sense. That's my first piece of advice. You can't be in your head about rules when you're trying to write. So, um so we were in our head about rules. And what that did was the first 20 minutes of that movie, which is you know, approximately the first 20 pages of the script, was really fun. Kind of just free flowing, finding our way. And then act two was real hard because we had all these ideas this this like all these lessons in our head about like how do you write an act two, and then you gotta do this, and then each scene has to do this, blah blah blah blah blah, and then it kind of just got a little mucky. What are the some baseline rules for writing a movie? Well, the script notes podcast made a really good point. Uh if you've never listened to listen to that podcast, it's a good one. It's on screenwriting. Uh it's two screenwriters who are actually professionals. Uh I guess I'm a professional, but I'm professional in television. Okay. I so I should be teaching how to write a pilot or a TV script. But I'm trying to get into movies. Yeah. We can expand this to just how to write a script. Well, say what you were gonna say, because I'm curious. Okay, so what they said was don't forget about the scenes. Like the scenes are the most important thing because sometimes people get caught up in writing like the whole arc of the movie, that they're just like, okay, and then this scene is just to get to this scene is just to get to this scene. But like every scene is kind of like a mini-movie, ideally. Yeah, that makes sense. And Robert McKee said in his book that every scene is like and this is something that like tripped us up at first, but when when me and my writing partners were trying to write our first movie, but every scene he says should be either plus to minus or minus to plus. And the plus and minus indicate like a character's outlook, basically. Okay. So like if your character wants to make it to the concert on time, at the beginning of one scene, it should look good for him, and then by the end of that scene, it should look not as good. And then the beginning of the next scene, it should look not good. And then by the end of that scene, it should look a little better. So it's you're constantly like little mini movies, little arcs, little arcs. That makes sense. I don't think that that's a fast and true. You could find so many good scenes in so many good movies that don't necessarily do that. That are just like there for fun or texture or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

But I think it's a good rule of thumb. You know what's something that I think I don't I think about with writing is a lot of times in TV and in film they jump between characters. Okay, let's spend five minutes with this character and then we'll jump back to this character.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Why is that? Why are there not more movies that's or TV shows that are just like just one character story?

SPEAKER_03 22:42

It can be a little claustrophobic. I like writing like that what you're describing, like the uh the one character POV. Yeah. But it's more like, yeah, is this movie sort of filtered through the POV of one person? Is it almost like a first-person narrative? Or is it third person like omniscient, like God's eye view of a bunch of people doing a bunch of shit? Yeah. I don't know. I think it's just like whatever your preference. But sometimes, like, especially in TV shows, if you're s expanding it to show the perspectives and stories of other characters that are not your main character, it just kind of broadens your universe and gives you more opportunities to like tell stories.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

But like sometimes the claustrophobia of just focusing on the main character can be fun. Like in a Safties movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yeah. You just drill down on that one dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

And I do mean dude.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Those movies are so fucking stressful. I never feel good watching them. I like Marty Supreme. But that's the one there was an hour in that movie that I was like, this better not just suddenly end. Uncut gems, it just ended, and I was like, fuck this.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

How did it end? I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Spoilers, skip five seconds ahead if you want to hear it. Adam Sandler just gets randomly shot in the face. Well, I forgot about that. He's like wins his like triple parlay bet, and then like it's too late for him. The guy just walks into the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Oh, because he owes money. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why you don't gamble, because you will get shot in the face. Exactly. Gambling is a gateway drug to getting shot in the face. Yeah, which is the ultimate high. Probably is. Yeah. That flash of that right before your death.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

That's DMT, right? Yeah. Yeah, that is DMT.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Damotter Teresa.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

D Mutter Teresa. That's the only DMT I care about. So let's think about how to write a movie. And I'm going to think about it from my own perspective as someone who's never written a movie. Okay. Um, I think the best way to write a movie, uh having having no experience, the advice I would give is to just start filming everything. And then stitch it together afterwards. Oh, interesting. Like a documentary, but however you want to do it.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

So you're sort of talking about how to make a documentary.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah, that's how to make a movie. Yeah, how to write a movie. Yeah, I didn't specify. You also didn't say how long the movie had to be.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

That's that's true. These are all my my bad.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

My bad across the board. So right now we're making a movie.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Yeah, we're making a movie movie.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

And we're right and we're writing a movie.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

So that is the key, is that I said how to write a movie. Yeah. Okay, so Christopher, you're exploring your first foray and just trying to write a pilot right now.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Yes. Okay. Um, and I have no idea what I'm doing. Whenever I sit down, I just think about things that I just watch that or that I have seen that I love and trying to replicate that energy.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

What what are some of those things?

SPEAKER_01 25:41

So, like I was just thinking about like we were just talking about that show neighbors that you said it's like produced by one of the staff to users, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Yeah, so and it has that energy.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

Yeah, and it's a document docuseries just about neighbors that are just always getting in fights. And it's so good. Yeah, it is incredible. And I was thinking, okay, every scene it'd be awesome if there was always not maybe not every scene, but most scenes would be awesome if there's always a point like like like conflict happening because that's always what's happening between these neighbors, and it just drives the like it just fucking glues me to my seat. Like during a time when it's hard for me to want to watch TV. I can't like it's it's very rare that I want to sit down and keep watching.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

So well, that's because there's no porno on TV anymore.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yeah, yeah. They used to give me 30-second porno breaks between the the scene, between every scene. Every time the the screen transitioned to a different location, it would say, porno break. Give me what I need.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

Yeah, you had a specially tailored YouTube break.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Um but yeah, I feel like it's just a lot of for me right now in in such an early phase, just a lot of me just typing stuff out and then showing it to you after a month and being like, is this good? And then you'd be like, keep going.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

But conflict, you're right. Conflict is the key to it all. But you're saying make them likable, that's the hard part. Well, I mean, you can, you cannot. Like, I think we like likable characters, even though that seems like Hollywood speak. It's like we like the redeeming qualities of Marty Supreme, even. We like that he uh his has like moments of loyalty. I mean, i it it doesn't have to be likable in terms of moral, but he's charming. He's a charming rogue. Yep, you know? Um, and charming is good. Uh like Nicolas Cage in uh Bad Lieutenant Port of New Orleans is a piece of shit, but he's still sort of like fun. So like likable is whatever.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

That's a good movie. Oh, it's I should watch that one. So good. You've been you've been you have been on it with with your movie recommendations. Mark recommended me a great other great movie, Blade 2. Yeah, which I don't know if you remember Mark, but there's one scene where they introduce this like gang that they're like about to run with. It's almost like a heist type crew, and they they like they're like, you know, this is Rick. He runs the you know the bomb squad or whatever, and then they point at one guy and they're like, These are assassins, and he just goes like this. Which, if you're listening to this, he taps his chest, hits the bottom of his chin, and then puts a finger gun out in like one swift movement, and then you realize that he's mute. Oh yeah. But I don't know how that maybe that's genuine ASL, but he's also a vampire, so I feel like it's a different it's different.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Yeah. And ASL stands for American Sign Language. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Like the ice bucket challenge.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

By the way, I I was trying to see if we could come up with a joke for ASL, but you know what? Sometimes a straightforward answer is what's called for.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Absolutely. I want to show you something. This is so random and aside, but I can't stop thinking about it. Okay. And this is a this is kind of a movie if you think about it. Um there's this guy named Jay Phil, and he's a rapper, and his whole thing is that I have shown you this, but I just want to talk about it because I still can't stop thinking about it. Oh, yeah. His whole thing is that if a man cheats and a woman cheat, it is not the same. And this is I'll just give you a blur.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

And you're saying it's kind of a movie because it's like a a a it's an Instagram reel. It's a well, it's a reel before a uh music video.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Yes, exactly. Here it is.

SPEAKER_04 29:24

You cheated on me. You cheated on me too. We both cheated on me.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Yeah. So truly a galaxy brain take.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Um I just wanted to share that because um it's been top of mind for me that for the past month and a half. That song has just been echoing in my head. And that connects to this. What were you thinking of? Um, well, I would say the connection is that that's an incredibly dynamic character.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

I mean, it's definitely a character with a strong perspective.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah. And that's important. And you gotta love the part at the end where he says, regardless, it's still cheating, but it's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

He's sort of making a small concession to her point of view, but then reinforcing his own. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So, okay, here's one thing I want to talk about in terms of movies. Yes. I want to talk about how um uh I want to talk about the inciting incident. Okay, yeah, let's talk about it. You heard of this?

SPEAKER_01 31:14

No.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

So this is called uh so my favorite movie writing book, and this is like kind of baby, baby brained thing to say. I really love Save the Cat.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

You told me that you don't like saving the cat when you write stuff.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Well, I don't like that. I don't think that that's as critical as it's called Save the Cat. Okay, so let me explain what that is. Saving the cat means like, oh, you've got an unlikable character, uh, but uh he's like a a corrupt cop. I th what's it based on? Some Al Pacino movie.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

He's like a He's a rapper who thinks that men and women who cheat are not the same.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Sure. So you're kind of like, I don't like this guy, I don't want to watch 90 minutes of this guy. So the theory of Save the Cat is like in the second scene or whatever, first scene, second scene, he literally saves a helpless cat from a tree or from a sewer. He helps pull a cat out of the toilet. This cat's gonna die in this toilet. A really bad guy would leave the cat in the toilet. Yeah, he helps tug the cat out, and so then the audience goes, Oh, he's actually got a good heart somewhere down deep down there. Maybe he's more misguided. Yes. So that's the theory of Save the Cat, which I think is not as important as the book makes it seem based on the title. But overall, the book is just sort of like beginner's guide to how to organize a movie. And I find it really helpful. I still like find my brain sort of drifting in that direction sometimes. But basically, they call it a catalyst, other people call it an inciting incident. What it breaks down to is you've got the routine of your world. Okay. What's a routine for your world, Christopher? What's your day-to-day routine?

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Um, I eat a yogurt bowl, I go to the gym. Yeah. I usually walk to the water. And you have a look. Yeah, and I have a look at the the the New York skyline.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Oh wow. This is already painting a beautiful picture of a man. Okay. We're gonna call this movie Christopher. Okay. So the inciting incident is the thing that interrupts your routine and becomes something that thrusts you into a world of difference.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

An accelerated world, a world, an unfamiliar world, one that's unfamiliar to you.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Okay. Like I see street racing happen. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

So let's say this let's say you see your first street race and it it uh it exhilarates you. Uh-huh. Your friend brings you out to a street race, or it just happens really close to you.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Yeah. I was thinking on my way, on my way to the water. That's what I was envisioning based on what you were saying.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Maybe it's day two. Day one, we see you make it to the water. Day two, you have trouble getting to the water. Why? Because street race. So then what this is is an invitation to adventure. Okay. And we know watching it, Christopher's gonna get involved with street racing. How do you make that first day interesting? Well, it's a route. Here's the thing it's not as uninteresting as you might think to literally show someone's routine. Like what you were describing, if a movie started with a guy going to the gym, a guy eating his yogurt bowl, and then going to the water and looking wistfully out at the New York skyline, I'd be into it. Kind of sweet, yeah. Kind of sweet. And if you want, you can spice it up a little. Like who are his friends? Who does he hang out with? Does he play video games? Does he uh does he volunteer a big brother program every day? And he hangs out with this little kid who's a little fucker. Like whatever. Like, literally, a routine can be anything. A routine can be like Star Wars. His routine is farming whatever the fuck they farm on that p planet. Remember?

SPEAKER_02 34:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

He's like a what farmer? What's it called again? Uh a womp rat.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

No, he's a moisture farmer. He's a moisture farmer. But they have womp rats on the farm.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

Yeah, and there's womp rats on the farm. Like your routine can be anything. Yeah. Your routine can be if you're a ninja, every day you go out and assassinate someone. Okay. Yeah. That's your routine, but then you're the catalyst that brings you into an unfamiliar world is let's say something more extreme, you get time traveled to the future. Or something that makes your life less extreme, you fall in love. A ninja shouldn't fall in love.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Okay, so here's my question. Since my current pilot, I'm writing it about somebody who is going to a new school.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

How would I show that person's normal routine if they're just starting it?

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Um Or should I start by their old school? No, no, no. Because you want, especially in a show, you want to start with this is a good question. Uh it can be a new routine, but it's still the routine. Gotcha. Like, what do you want to happen to this guy at this new school?

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Um, I want him to like climb the ranks of the social order. So I want him to like Okay. So he starts out and he's probably a nerd.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Yeah, so his routine is nerd shit. Yeah. His routine is nerd shit, and the thing is, maybe off the top, he doesn't realize that he ever could do anything but nerd shit. Okay. But he maybe has a quiet yearning inside him. No more water left in my cup. I'll say. So he has a quiet yearning, and then you know, he sees a cool kid.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Was that a slight burp? No, it wasn't. Okay. It was me thinking. Okay, me thinks.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

He sees a cool kid doing some shit. Uh-huh. And it it's like seeing his first street race. He's like, holy shit, that's the world I want to be a part of.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Okay, cool. Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

So let's finish writing the movie Christopher. Yeah, let's finish writing my movie. Okay, so you see your street race. Yeah, I see my street race. Then there's a section we call the debate section. Okay. This is Save the Cat terminology again. Okay. But what that means is you debate whether to enter this new world. And in the debate section, it shouldn't be like token debate. It should be like, you know, when Luke Skywalker is debating whether to go into space, it's like he's gonna have to leave his aunt and uncle behind. He's gonna have to leave his planet behind. He's gonna enter completely unfamiliar territory, and that's scary. And then in a kind of cheap way, they're just like, yeah, well, actually, the aunt and uncle got murdered. So yeah. Pretty easy choice now. Um, but for you, what is it that makes it scary to enter the world of street racing? Is it dangerous? Well, you might die. You might die. Also, it's expensive and illegal. Illegal. Also, um, you know, what's your job right now?

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Fucking doing like just comedy stuff.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Okay, so that's not gonna be as difficult. Let's say you have a nine to five.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

You have a nine to five doing what?

SPEAKER_01 37:59

I uh work at the bodega with my friend Sam.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

Okay. So you work at the bodega, so this might take up some time. Maybe you're maybe you've got money that's put aside for something else, and it would be a bad idea to put this money suddenly into street racing.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Yes. I'm saving up to you know buy uh to pay off some debt. Yeah, you got debt.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Yeah. You got debt. So now when you jump into street racing, that is the start of what we call act two. Okay. So the debate section is the end of act one. And then when you enter this unfamiliar world, that's act two. And that's gonna start with you probably going to your first official street race. You saw it happening near you, but maybe that wasn't an official race. Now you're gonna go check it out and you're gonna go like try to get involved. Okay, cool. You're gonna go talk to someone about buying a car, souping up your car.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

You're gonna go try and borrow a car uh borrow a car from your You can say borrow. It's okay. From your from your uh relative. Yeah. And you're like, I'm not gonna ruin it, but there's the risk that you're gonna ruin it. You're gonna do all this shit that involves the fun of getting into the world of street racing. And the first half of your movie can be largely fun. It's Marty Supreme rockin' fools at ping pong. Yeah. But then eventually things are gonna get harder, and that'll be the second half of your movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:33

So is is are the characters supposed to be essentially like living on borrowed time a little bit for that section? Maybe taking risks that they shouldn't have, and they're gonna have to eat the consequences later on. Yeah, I don't know if you'd say they're living on borrowed time, but they're because it's like fun. Okay. It should be like Nothing more fun than living on borrowed time. Nothing more fun than having to owe somebody something back. Like time.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

It's like, think of good fellas, because that's like such a classic first half, second half. The first half is like, isn't it fun to be a mobster? Yeah. And the second half is holy shit, isn't it dangerous and probably a terrible idea to be a mobster? Yeah. Don't you just waste away and then everyone you love dies, and then you're under threat of death, and you've got a coke habit and your wife hates you. Yeah. So it's like the first half is like, it's fun, and then the second half is like, pay the piper. Yeah. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

You ever seen the movie Don't Back Down Never Back Down? No, what's that? Is that Justin Bieber? No, that's never say never. Oh right. Never back down is about a um like a bunch of high schoolers who get really into MMA and then they start fighting each other. Fight Club. Yeah, very similar to Fight Club, except that none of the secret society aspect. It's just like the school bully does MMA, and so this kid who's new in town, he's like a hick, yeah, starts doing MMA to beat his ass. And MMA stands for mixed martial arts. Oh, okay. I thought maybe you might make something up. Oh stands for American Sign Language. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Me mommy uh every uh all the time.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Yeah, mommy, mommy again. That's how I feel when I watch MMA and a UFC fight ends. I go. What does UFC stand for? What's UFC stand for? Yeah. Um undiscovered fucking uh children. Very nice. Very nice. Yeah. Um okay, so that's that's the bare bones basics on how to write a movie. How do you end movies? Oh, that's such a good question. Yeah. Okay. We're talking you're talking about act three. Yeah. Act three? Act two ends with something we call the all is lost. Oh shit. And that's like, what's the most you can lose, let's say, at the end of let's say that you've been street racing, things have started to go bad, you wreck a car, your the debts the debt collectors are coming. Let's say you've borrowed this car from your mom. What's the worst thing that could happen at the end of that little arc?

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Um wait, you already said I wrecked the car?

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Uh let's say you haven't yet.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Okay, yeah, I would wreck the car. Like, that's the worst thing. Or like uh, you know, I I um I get in a I get I get I I get uh during a fight, uh someone pulls a dirty move and I fall back and I break my neck on a little stool in the corner of a boxing ring. I become a paraplegic.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

Well, that's not really about street racing, but yeah, I feel you. Okay, wait. Okay, I got I'll give you a different one. I'll give you a different one. So so sometimes the all is lost can have to do with something we call your B story. And that's like your emotional story. Gotcha. So let's say you've got a you've got a relationship with your mom where you're always taking big if you're like you borrow the car, you kind of like you're kind of like not a great son. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Maybe at the end of Act Two, you've lost everything, the debt collectors have come and she mortgages her house or she sells her house to get you out of debt. So you fucked your mom. Gotcha. Your mom is like, your mom has sacrificed everything, and now you feel like shit. The whole and the rest of the family's not talking to you because you've done this bad thing. Okay, cool. So now, act three. How are you gonna get my mom? How are you gonna get how are you gonna get enough money to buy your mom a new house, to buy your mom's house back before it goes up for sale?

SPEAKER_01 43:55

I gotta win the big street race.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Now we're fucking talking.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

So now you're using the skills that you You've learned through this movie. Okay. And ideally, a slightly tweaked, more responsible perspective. Okay. To take one lag la one last big risk. Okay, cool. And uh if this risk fails, maybe your neck is on the line. Maybe you're gonna die. Yeah. But you're gonna finally do the right thing. You're gonna do it for the right reasons. Yeah. You weren't doing it for the right reasons before. Uh-huh. You're gonna do it for the right reasons now. Okay, cool. So that's an option. That's an option for how to tell that story of the movie Christopher. Awesome. The street racing boy. Yeah. Damn. So, like in Star Wars, Act One ends with him leaving his home planet. Act two starts with him going on an adventure with Obi-Wan Kenobi, finding the Millennium Falcon, uh bartering with Han Solo to like fly it for them, fun in the weird bar, flying up to the Alderon in the Weird Barbecue or whatever. And then Star Wars. Fun in the weird bar. And then the mit and then the planet they're going to no longer exists. It was blown up by the Death Star. Act two, when things start to get tough, they get sucked into the Death Star, they get chased by stormtroopers, they get trapped in a garbage disposal. Obi-Wan Kenob all is.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

Out two is the longest, yeah?

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Uh yeah. Okay. Act two is like half of the movie. Yeah. Act two ends with the all is lost, Obi-Wan Kenobi is killed.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

Yeah, fuck.

SPEAKER_03 45:24

That's the guy that he was relying on to show him the ropes. Now he's gonna have to do it on his own.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

When Obi-Wan Kenobi died like that and his robe fell, that's for I that was the first time I ever saw a video of anybody dying. I thought that's how people died for like a year.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Yeah. I thought that's what happened when people's robes fell off. It meant that they disappeared. So I was really confused when my uncle's robe fell off and I saw his thing. And then he pointed to it and said, get a good look. This ain't no Obi-Wan Kenobi thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

What an insane thing to say to a child. Um It's okay, Wally.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

What you looking for? Everything okay, Wally?

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Oh, yeah, that's over here. We have that perfectly positioned, so you have to come into the podcast to get it. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 46:12

I'm doing good.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

Uh-oh. It just didn't sound good. Oh, yeah. No worries. That's fine. That maybe Yeah could. Did you say edit?

SPEAKER_01 46:32

I think so. Oh, you're out of storage.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

Oh no, it happened again.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

Why don't we take we'll take take two minutes?

SPEAKER_03 46:44

Take two minutes. Take two minutes.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

Delete your WhatsApp. That'll help. Did you delete the video from yesterday?

SPEAKER_03 46:52

That is a great question.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Let me delete you. I'll show you what we got. We should wrap this up in like within the next five minutes when you start recording, then we'll do listener questions.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

True. Alright, we are recording on that one again. Three, two, one. Okay. We're back. Now, Christopher, do you have any questions about how to write a movie? Um, no, to be honest, I think. Would you like to try and write your own? I want to hear you try and write yours. Okay, okay, my.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

What's your routine every day?

SPEAKER_03 47:56

My routine every day? I jerk it hard. I pump myself full of soda stream. Okay. No, okay. My routine every day, I wake up. Okay. I uh if I'm in the right space, I do if I'm like live and write, I do a meditation app. Okay. Just for 10 minutes. Okay. I write. I drink my coffee. I smoke my little sh stupid little cigarette. Okay. And and then if I'm and then I go to a coffee shop to write more. Okay. Kind of a boring life. Yeah. This is largely largely because my leg is injured. So I can't go to the gym right now, and I can't go to the uh cold plunge sauna right now. Yeah. So maybe you want to weave that in because I got an injured leg.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Yeah. Okay, cool. So you are at home all day, your leg is up because you can't move it because you got in a really bad skiing accident. Okay. Okay. Sure. So one day but you spend all your your days looking out that rear window in your apartment. Okay, okay, good. So one day while while being uh um you know, while looking out this window, just looking into other people's homes, um you witness uh what you think is a murder. And this sort of this is a good catalyst, a good insight. This sort of sends you into a world of becoming like a um a like a detective. You're like, you're like you want to be a detective. Or like you, you, you're like, you're you're just like you're at home all day, you're cooped up, you're like, this is gonna this is my escape. So you get fall all into being a detective. So you start seeing this guy, he's moving around, you think he is he keeps on inviting um well uh like you see you see him like with kids sometimes. You're like, oh, what's going on here? And then you see him win a bunch of elections, and then you spend all your time on your computer listening to this one guy named Q. And you so then um uh then you bankrupt your mom because you spend all your money on fleshlights, and then the the rising action is that January 6th comes, and then the falling action is that you you put on that shaman costume that we saw at the beginning in that museum, sure, and you break into the museum and uh you wear it, and then you go to the the White House. Everyone else goes to the Capitol, but you go to the White House and uh you break in. Yeah, and um it ends um and then it ends. Okay, so right when you open the door, you go, whoa, and then it ends.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

So what's my all is lost moment?

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Your all is lost, okay. Well, I'll do this, I'll do this for you.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

No, no, no, no, no. I want you to stick with this.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

I'm a guy, I'm a January 6th rioter.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

You're January Okay, okay. You're you're cooped up at home with an accident, and and you're the other world is like a guy who gets sucked into like an alt-right pipeline.

SPEAKER_03 50:52

Yeah, I get I get I get sucked into an alt-right pipeline. You get red pill.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

I love this. Okay, so uh you're you're um the only person uh who like is like with you is like like a like it through the entire thing is your girlfriend who loves you, but then at a certain point uh you start thinking that she's in on the plot and that she's like a reptilian and you lose her. Um so now you are like truly all alone, and then you turn oh no no, here's all sauce is that you turn on the other queuers. Because they kick me out of the group.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

Yeah, they kick me out of the group, and that's all I had. Yeah, you have n now you have nothing left. And that I was living at the clubhouse. Yes, the I was staying in the QAnon treehouse.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

Yeah, yes, you were in the the the QAnon treehouse next door.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Yeah, and now I got nowhere to live.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Yes, but you've developed all these research skills. Cool. So then What's Act Three? Act three is that um your son, who has who you've lost with your girlfriend, yeah, uh needs help with a research project.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

This is a really bad act three. Now remember, act three's gotta be the most fun.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

Okay, okay, okay. Um, it sounds like this.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

Sounds like this. What happened at the end of January 6th?

SPEAKER_01 52:12

They all go to oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

Yeah, went to prison. They all go to prison. Did not overthrow the government.

SPEAKER_01 52:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Well, it seems like if I'm not part of the group, possibly I'm not part of the group anymore at The All Is Lost because uh I'm too zealous. I decide in Act Three, I'm gonna take down the government by myself.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Yeah. Yes, I think that's great.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

I don't have my buddies, but I'm gonna follow through on the mission.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah. Yeah. And you go on January 7th. Yeah. I go the next day.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

Yeah, all of this happens in one day.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

Yeah. But you are able, because you're you are so much more into it than them, you're able to get past double the security that they were they were able to get past. Yeah. Um I'm nimble. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:56

And uh you you get I use I use all the disability ramps.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

I'm able to park in the in the good spots because of my leg. And you get in and uh you while you realize that the the conspiracies you've been peddled are a lie, um it'd be something crazy to discover. You find like you find out that that the government is in a different type of conspiracy, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

Or I find out that there's a pedophile ring, but it's not who we thought. Oh, yeah. Maybe it's the Q guys are Q guys or then act three is I gotta tear them down. Yeah. But that's not the story we want to tell. The story we want to tell is that Biden is to blame. And the the la act three ends with me putting a gun to Biden's head and saying and saying, This is for the kids. This is for the pizza shop, bitch. And then it just cuts to credits and uh and it's When you're living in the Hall of Fame Hi!

SPEAKER_01 54:05

Hi Yeah, it's it got to an Illumineer song. Hey, oh how's that song go again? Um shoot. It goes. Um I don't remember. I'm thinking of um uh la da law. That one's by um Monsters of Men or whatever. Lumineers. What's an Illumineers song? Illuminati Hoddies is a band that is coming up that I've never heard of before. Oh yeah, it's just Lumineers. Just Lumineers. Hold the Ho Hey.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

It's just the Lumineers. It's not the hey, you know your band name, the The Lumineers? Drop the first the. Do you like the Just The Lumineers?

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Do you like the Lumineers? Because hey ho. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Okay, so this is the song I put a gun to Biden's head. And just as the sound of the bullet is starting this place.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Wait, no, I I've been trying to do it right.

unknown 55:18

I've been living a lonely life.

SPEAKER_04 55:21

I've been sleeping here instead.

SPEAKER_03 55:23

And then it's the credit show like scrolling photographs of me having fun with all my QAnon buddies during better days.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

Wait, no, I have a real movie, I'm gonna pitch you.

unknown 55:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

I haven't read the movie. Okay, so you're at home, your leg is busted, you're doing your meditation, and you do look out your rear window, but you see that your neighbor is on the roof on the second day. This is your your first experience with the other world with a jet pack.

SPEAKER_00 55:51

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

And you're like, whoa, that's cool. And you your neighbor like goes up and just jetpacks away. Okay. And you're like, whoa, that's crazy. So then you start getting in the habit of watching him every single day.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

Jerking it.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Yeah, jerking it. Yeah, yeah. Find yourself weirdly turned on by the entire process. But you go over uh and you get a turn with the jetpack. You oh no, I think you have to debate about it first. Because you see him, you're debating about it because you see him really fuck his fuck himself up. And that's an and then you look at your leg and you're like, fuck, am I gonna like bust myself open again? So then you first you're kind of like uh like help you with the schematics of the jetpack, but then eventually you're like, no, I want to fucking get on the jetpack. And you start rocking it around town. You can go anywhere on time. Now, previously you couldn't get anywhere on time because your leg. Because my leg. Yeah. And you have the best views in New York City. You're taking hot chicks on dates with a jetpack. Okay. Um, you are able to have I stolen my neighbor's jetpack? No, but you guys have an arrangement. Let's say, like, maybe like, you know, it's like a it's a it's like a you know uh joint custody. So you get it for certain certain days. Really?

SPEAKER_03 57:06

So far, not as good as your QAnon movie, I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

I gotta steal a jetpack. I thought these characters are supposed to be likable. They can't function within a community in a healthy way. I said they don't have to be more. Alright, fine. He fucking he betrays the friend, takes the jetpack for himself. Yeah, and and and um he uh that leaves the friend without any income. Oh, he was a jetpack tour guide?

SPEAKER_03 57:33

Yeah. And then in the second half, maybe now he's got the jetpack. Maybe let's say he was working with his friend, he was borrowing it, he becomes a jetpack tour guide in the first half, which is kind of our world's version of a segue tour guide. Yeah. But it's more dangerous. But then and then but then he gets into hot water with the mob, and now they want him to use his jetpack to help them do heists.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Yeah, because he starts doing too many club appearances.

SPEAKER_03 57:58

Yeah. So in the mob runs all the time. And he and he trashes a club by accident, and he now he's in their debt. Yeah. And now he's got a jetpack heist for them. Okay, yes. And now he in the second half of the movie he's doing jetpack heists, and he's like worried because he's gonna get hurt, he's gonna get killed, and his friend doesn't want him to do it because he's ruining the good name of the jetpack.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Yes, yes, the jetpack was made for for information, yeah. For sharing things. But now there's only one he breaks all the other jet packs, only one jet pack in the city. Yeah, and then he breaks the one jetpack.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

He breaks the one jetpack and then or the mob steals it, yeah, and they leave him for dead, or they try and kill his friend, or they do kill his friend.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

And now he's gotta make his own jet pack.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

He's gotta bring his friend back to life.

SPEAKER_03 58:46

He creates he creates a Frankenstein version of his friend with a jetpack and launches him at the mob and he blows everything up. Wow. But I think the end of this movie is he makes his own jetpack or he movies are dramatic, man.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

I don't want these characters to have to go through this. I want I want them all to just live in a really happy community. So show family.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

Hi! Um, okay, we gotta wrap this up. But uh any last questions or thoughts on movie writing, Christopher?

SPEAKER_01 59:18

No, but should we do one quick listener question?

SPEAKER_03 59:20

Okay, but we only got I got four minutes before I have to do my meeting. Perfect. Let's just do one. Okay. So there was this is not a listener question because we don't have any at the moment. So if you're a listener or a viewer, uh write us a question at uh Mark and Christopher Guide to World Instagram account. Yes. Send us a DM with your question, any advice at all? Yeah. Any advice. Here's an interesting question I found on the Reddit screenwriting thread. Okay. To the produced screenwriters here, what are some questions up and comers aren't asking but should? So that's a question about questions. And then here's some of the answers. The first question every up and comer should ask you I can answer it. Sure. Okay, first question every up and comer. Yeah, I'm reading it. Okay, sorry. Should ask themselves is does screenwriting bring me joy? And if so, how much? Enough to spend three to five years doing it for free? And if the answer is yes, you're chasing the right dream. Now, some I will say someone answered the someone responded to the response here and said three to five years is actually on the low end. You gotta be ready to do it for free for closer to like six to ten years. Damn. But so that's a question. Christopher, are you willing to do this for free for many, many years?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Yeah, probably. It sounds fun. It's a lot of drama. I have to get over the fact that all my characters are gonna get hurt. Yeah. These are my babies.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

But if you're lucky, and if you write the right way, by the end they're gonna be better off than when they started. Okay, true. I say you write the right way, but it doesn't have to be the right way. That's just one way to write. Marty Supreme's not better off at the end. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I guess arguing better off for himself. You could argue that he's grown a soul and he cares about his kid, but I think we all know that when the credits roll on Marty Supreme, he's gonna go back to playing ping pong selfishly. He's gonna stay selfish. It's kind of a false hope ending. Yeah. But a lot of characters, by the end of Star Wars, Luke has learned to use the force. Yep. So, yes, his friend Obi-Wan Kenobi died, but A, Obi-Wan Kenobi's a cool ghost. Yeah. And B, Luke has become more self-sufficient. He was kind of whiny early in the movie. Now he's self-sufficient.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

And in the Mark movie, you study the Bible so you can bring your friend back, and now you can bring anybody back.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

What's the Mark movie again?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:34

You go with the jetpack, but your friend dies, and then you gotta bring him back to life.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:37

I thought it was a QAnon movie. Oh, okay. Yeah, in Jetpack, I In QAnon, you can kill anybody. Well, here's the thing in Jetpack, it starts out, and I'm a whiner. Oh, I got my sore leg. Oh, I can't do nothing. Oh, I need a jetpack to get around. Then I kill the mob without a jetpack.

unknown 1:01:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

Maybe that's the ending. I just go foot to the ground, wheelchair, wheelchair machine gun. Hell yeah. So oftentimes in these movies, you're ending better off than when you started.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:07

Fair enough. Alright, and with that, should we end our episode? Um, we must. All right. Thanks for everybody listening. And here's our outro. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:23

Just kidding, of course. I would never.