E5 | Hunty's Quest, Hatchets & Ruttsy In The Cockpit

Episode 5 of the GrinnaGolfCast welcomes Jack Rutter — Grinnaman, Bent Shaft, Pilot and current Canary Jacket holder...

We applaud Hunty for his remarkable achievement, Ruttsy gets asked a question without notice and a hatchet is buried with prominent sports journalist, Tom Morris. 

That and a few average yarns, all with thanks to GolfLoot.

Fast. Loose. Ready golf.

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

Update. Got a few days until Monday, 2 pm to get the handicap down to 0.9. Currently sitting at 1.9, so one full shot. Lost my clubs on the virgin flight, so I didn't have them up in Queensland. Got a call on Monday morning, both course flooded, so headed back. We got 36 to go today, regardless. 36 tomorrow, and that's my last shot at it. So but I think I've just hit the shot of my life. Hit a massive high draw. This for Eagle to really get the ball rolling. Let's go, grinners. Righto, I got info at lunchtime that extended the cutoff to tomorrow 2pm. It's about 6 47. We've got 45 minutes of light, and I'm one over, so if I can get a couple of birdies here, we're a sneaky chance somehow. Let's go! Even round off the blacks just then is not gonna be enough. But I am going a seven mile in the morning. Should have a round done by 2 pm, which is the cutoff date for Q school. So we've got one last crack at that. Gonna have to pull the rabbit out of the hat here on the final siren. Let's see what we can do. Let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:17

Didn't deserve this, but I don't take no for an answer. And I break in by the skin of my teeth. I've made it. 0.9 is the current handicap that was due today. It was extended by 24 hours. Not because of me, just from from sheer chance of fate, I guess. The last two I needed to par and bogey, nailed my drive, was able to par it, and then all I had to do was boge in the last, put in the bunker. A bit of a sketchy bunker shot, but made up and down, and we snuck in with a shot to spare. And gee whiz kind of painting the Hobart Town red. Off to Moonalink.

SPEAKER_06 1:59

Let's go. Righto. Jeez, I was under pressure this week, but he's f done it. He's qualified for Q school. He's up and about, I played about, I don't know, 128 holes this week. And I've done it, Patrick.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Well done, mate. Well done. I mean, I should probably be a bit more excited, but if any, we didn't put the little E explicit thing on there. If in the first five seconds you've just dropped two F bums.

SPEAKER_04 2:25

They'll get the gist of it, don't we?

SPEAKER_02 2:27

But mate, well done. Hats off to you. You've been working hard and um you've been winning or you've been learning, and you've learnt a lot. So much that you've won enough.

SPEAKER_06 2:37

Wow. This is why I do the intros.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Well done, mate.

SPEAKER_06 2:42

Um okay. Well, I'll want anything yet. Hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give you a second chance. We've got we've got a friend of the pod. Yes. He's been mentioned, I think, in every episode so far. He has. The pilot has been.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Max Thorn doesn't know him.

SPEAKER_06 2:54

Yeah, yeah, that's right. The fans have been requesting, and we finally landed him. The first big fish.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Mm-hmm. Mr. Jack Rudder, the pilot. It doesn't need anything else.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

It's a pleasure to be on Northie. Um, and uh yeah, it is a golf podcast, I think, so we're not going to talk about planes tonight.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Can you just give us a little off-the-top welcome to the Grinner Golfcast? Like we're a bunch of passengers. Oh, I can do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon and welcome aboard the Gorina Golfcast, episode five.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

What's the weather of luck outside?

SPEAKER_04 3:25

Oh, it's fine and chance of a couple of bogies, I reckon. If this starts anything to go by, and a couple F-bombs.

SPEAKER_06 3:31

This is gonna be a painful episode. Why is it gonna be painful, bugs? Because you two, the two friends of mine that I play with, at every plane that goes past, you're both nuffies. I know you used to park in Tulla Marine and watch the planes go up.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Still do.

SPEAKER_06 3:44

You have the flight radar, you watch your good mate fly every day.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

My lovely girlfriend arrived the other week, and I got out there early and took the dog and we watched her land. So romance isn't dead, mate.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

Wow. That's nice. That was a landing. Give us a rating out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

It was a butter.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Buttery job. It was a buttery job.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah. See, Huntie has no idea what we're talking about. But this is two plane guys going at it. Yeah, butter the bread, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

What are you gonna do? Spare it like a knife. Well, Brennan plane cast. All right. Here we go. Off pieced already.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

We're back on track. Back on track. Please pull us back on track, Bunky.

SPEAKER_06 4:16

Well, yes, it's been a big week. As you would know, three days ago was the cutoff. It was 2 p.m. I had to have my application in, and I just got through on the skin of my teeth. Well done. So next week, next Wednesday, I believe, is round one.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Um and what do you do between now and then?

SPEAKER_06 4:35

I lock myself in. I am living down the coast near Moonalinx, so I'm gonna be playing the open course every day. So I'm gonna be practicing there, learning the holes off by heart, um, and then go from there, try to get the mentals in place.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

Do you play the old course or the legends course?

SPEAKER_06 4:51

Or is it called the open course? Open open course.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Other than the open course. So the open, so you play on the open course. From a former Moonalinx employee. Employee member. Jesus, mate. It is hot in here. I'm struggling. It's either just because Hunty's qualified for uh the key school golf day, or I'm just sweating like a gypsy with a mortgage. It's ridiculous. Okay, Ratzi, back to you, mate. We we don't care about us. We want to well, congratulations are in order, Hunty. Well done. I'm proud of you. Um we are all proud of you from the grinner. Um, and I think you're gonna do really well there. So congratulations, and my heartfelt tip of the hat goes to you.

SPEAKER_06 5:32

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Now let's get serious. Jack Rudder is here. Uh it seems a bit weird to say former captain of the shafts, but he is the all-time most winningest grinner player.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

No, they say that in America, the most winning player. The most winningest. Actually, really. Yeah, they do, pal. Okay, I'll tell you, I think it sounds bullshit. I'll I'll reverse that laugh. I'm sorry, Patrick.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Play Mulligan. And he has walked in with one of the great Sunday red outfits. But more importantly, on top of that, he is wearing the canary jacket. Jack Rudder. Welcome.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

Well, thanks, boys. Thanks for having me. Um took you long enough to get me on, and um I'll be having a chat to Gorney about about all this, because you know, he doesn't remember he doesn't remember you. He doesn't remember me. Anyway, must not have been wearing the beautiful mustard jacket that I've got on at the moment. Canary. Um well it is a mustard colour, but we call it the canary. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 6:21

Because it's canary.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Um I've got the grinner invitation. It's one of the worst jackets of all time, objectively. It's it is modular though, you can you can get it up to the sleeve.

SPEAKER_06 6:29

Can I just ask who was the original owner of this jacket?

SPEAKER_04 6:32

We had a guy on the second edition of the grinner, your first grunter, that's where we met actually in the Gold Coast. Um am I allowed to say his name on the pod?

SPEAKER_02 6:42

It depends if you want to shot a tequila or not.

SPEAKER_04 6:45

Well, I'll I'll I'll say his name. Gotta drive home later, that's all right, we'll just get it done now. Um, yeah, we'll bait. Oh! Jesus Christ! Drink that. Jesus Christ, finish that up.

SPEAKER_06 6:58

Drink responsibly, gas.

SPEAKER_04 7:00

Yep. Yeah, so Bader bought the um the jacket on the game. Drinking it.

SPEAKER_06 7:07

Planes and drinking.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

He's kryptonite.

SPEAKER_06 7:10

Not at the time, not at the time. That's hope. Cafe Pacific isn't listening to this one.

SPEAKER_04 7:17

Yeah, no, he's a very responsible operator. No, so um, yeah, the winner of the individual stable foot on the grinner every year gets um gets to wear this for the year. Um and we got all the all the winners on the back. Um, and this is my little donation to the grinner golf car. So um it's mine. It's mine perpetually.

SPEAKER_07 7:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

Um, I just rent it out a cut every second year or so just to let the other boys have a go. But it is it is mine. It's my fourth fourth.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Have you won have you won it four times?

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Yeah.

unknown 7:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:45

Yeah, yeah. I knew that was coming. Yeah. I forgot about that. Well, it was unhandicated.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

So we've had eight canaries awarded. Or nine.

SPEAKER_04 7:53

Uh eight, yeah. Eight, yeah, yeah. You've won four. Four, yeah. Ducks won two.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Ducks won one. Two. Merley's won one. No, Ducks won.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

Lidge's won one. Lidges won one. Ducks won two.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

No, Duck has one two. One, mate. Now, King Island, um, that was the first grinner. That's when you won this Asterix one. I hear you've been uh you've come armed with a little story of King Island.

SPEAKER_04 8:17

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a it was a great trip. I mean, we just pre-dating the grinner, I think a few of the boys chipped in and for my 21st, they got me a uh like a golf trip, or maybe it might have been my 18th golf golf trip, flights and accommodation, and around a golf and ocean dunes. Hunty came down for that one and we had some we did have like a little knock around um hit, but uh that sort of sparked the idea, and it was originally meant to be uh dads and lads. Um so well I guess it was you can take over the story if you want, Hunty.

SPEAKER_06 8:50

Well, it sort of started because I don't know if I saw this story during the pilot or the pilot's here, mate.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

I don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 8:58

I'm confused.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Are you awake over there, pal?

SPEAKER_06 9:01

I'm confused whether.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

Maybe I'll tell the story. Yeah, maybe you do. Yeah, so we had oh I reckon we had close to 25 blokes, um, dads and lads, locked in for the first one. The long-range forecast came out and it was apocalyptic, absolutely horrendous. Um so you know, one by one, blokes are pulling out, and there was only six of us left, I think.

SPEAKER_06 9:23

Yeah, and I was the only person that knew everyone because I organised it, and I decided to, yeah, um, twist my ankle in a Queen's birthday match. Um I remember fondly. I was in a moon boot. Are you playing ones or twos? What's that? Two? No comment.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

I was about to send you a text after that game as well, but didn't quite like the point, Casey fans didn't quite light the light the house on fire.

SPEAKER_04 9:47

No, but um, yeah, so obviously Hunty of the main danger for the canary for me, really. Um he did the all the off-field stuff and and did a really good job taking heaps of photos and ran around in a cart with a moon boot with a um a garbage bag over the top so your foot didn't get wet. Um and took all the photos uh of the trip, which was great. Saw all the captured all the meltdowns. There was an eagle. There was an eagle. There was an eagle. A bit of a bunker incident. Yeah, bunker incident there. We won't um won't elaborate on that one. Yeah, no. It's probably you, it's probably okay. I got the eagle. It was first eagle ever. First one ever.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Was it the did you do the first ever eagle dance?

SPEAKER_04 10:24

Carry-on was incredible. What did you do? Well, I don't actually think we had the eagle dance with the arms out. I think we were still running around like chickens for the birdie dance.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Um but the the unclipped wings didn't come out.

SPEAKER_04 10:37

The unclipped wings didn't come out. Um but they might have come out, but I didn't see the ball. I think they came out when you were jumping out of the bunker. Yeah, I didn't see the bunker and went over the top. There was a there was a golf cart in a bunker on the 13th hole at Cape Wickham. Um and yeah, we we had to work together to extricate the bunker from the and do some raking. We needed you there, actually, the king of bunker raking.

SPEAKER_06 11:01

Um not how it works, mate.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

You're in you're in a flow state, and then you just went for the beer.

unknown 11:13

Gary.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

No, so I think we got off track again. Um but yeah, basically there were six of us down there, and uh the weather was fucked. It was it was um it was blowing sideways every every sort of half an hour we had to raft up the carts. Um and we were the only ones out there and just sort of let the squall pass, and then once it stopped raining, we could continue play. So the round took a while, but it was I don't know, brought us all together and then um yeah, a few nice reds and some surf and turf.

SPEAKER_06 11:41

Um I personally think the best part of the story, obviously, we've spoken about Grinart the Godfather, but his his uh what was it? His proposal for you flame point over you his uh his proposal. Oh my lord. Okay, but basically we've got to keep this one short and sharp.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

They knew they all knew Jaden because he played footy, yeah, and then we were all um having beers in the pub telling them how good we are at footy as well.

SPEAKER_06 12:10

Yeah, and basically they asked me to assist him coach. I said yes, and then I said, look at these three, they can actually play footy. And Grinner was very excited. I think there was a request to try to beat up Tom Graham, uh brother of Angus Graham. Um and he was a big ruckman. I think it was you that went him and he had a scar on your face. Yeah, you need to finish it. I think it was a case of beer that they said if you knock out Tom Graham. But the best bet I heard was every goal that Toby, uh Jack Lidget, and Jack Rudder, three of the Grinnermen, each goal that they kicked, Grinner was like, I'll put in a crayfish in an eskey and you can go home, indulge in that beautiful crayfish.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

And how many crayfish did you get?

SPEAKER_06 12:48

Well, Ratzi, what happened was I got distracted. I didn't rock up to a quarter time, and Ratzi was at full back. I don't know what, I was fucking I was rabbit in headlights, man. And basically I went up to the coach and I said, You've got to put this guy at full forward. He can't, he doesn't have a defender's bone in his body, and he can jump over a roof. So basically, in three quarters, the other two didn't kick any goals, but Ratzi kicked five, and Grinner, to his credit, we were flying out at about 5 pm that arbo. We had beautiful, beautiful eskey full of five crays, and I've gone flame buoyant again. I don't know what's in the air tonight.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

It just gets the juices fine, that's all it just does. Yeah. Well, speaking of flow state, I was in flow state, you know, just sitting on blokes' heads that day. It was a good day. Good day.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Excellent.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

Golf was good too.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Now Hunty, for uh a couple of episodes, you've mentioned a name that you I don't know if you really like this person. I don't think you've ever met this person. Uh I don't know exactly where you stand with this person, but you feel very obliged to call him out. I speak of Tom Morris, the journalist. Now, can you just paint the picture as to why you're a little bit uh jaded with this man?

SPEAKER_06 14:04

Oh I I had this big housewarming because in 2018, I believe, invited all my friends, invited a fair a fair few people to this house party. Anyway, old Simon Goodwin, my old mate, decides to drop me that week. So I have to send the old tail between the legs Facebook event post saying party's cancelled, guys. I've been dropped, and I'm playing VFL on Sunday, so party's no good. Anyway, I don't know why, but Tom Morris was sniffing around this story. He ends up playing with a mate of ours, Toby Benjamin, my vice captain. Yeah. And either playing at RM together, and then Toby rings me. I don't know if it was after the round or after nine, he's like, he's just asking all this information about you. Like, Tom Morris, I get you're a journalist. Patrick Garshagan, I get that Tom Morris is your friend, and I get that he's a journalist, but a golf course is not the place to do it. I believe that's four hours. Forget your profession, you're with your mates, you're playing golf, you're not sniffing round stories.

unknown 15:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 15:11

So I've always had a bone to pick with him after that. So that is why I called him out last week. I wanted him in the hot seat. I don't see him here, Patrick. So he is a coward. But I don't know where you're leading this. Is he gonna just come through the door or what would you do if I rang him right now? Oh I'll face him, like I said.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Well, I'm gonna give him a call.

SPEAKER_04 15:36

I'm in, I'm in for this. Is this gonna be awkward? Gosh, what's up?

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Mr. Morris, is that you?

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Yes, how are you mate?

SPEAKER_02 15:45

Wow, well, I've got a a burning hunt over here. He's gone, he went a little bit quiet during the dial. Um, but welcome to the the Grin at Gulfcast. I think Undy wants to to break a bit of bad bread with you.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

Am I on a podcast?

SPEAKER_02 16:01

You're live on air.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

Oh god, okay. I'll be careful. G'day, Jaden. How are you? That's all right. You better be careful. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

We've also got Jack Rudder here, who is a pilot if you listen to the first couple of episodes.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

I know I know Jack Rudder. He's a good man. Hello, Jack. Yeah, hello Miles. How are you, mate? Good, mate. Lovely left-arm orthodox spin back in the day. Yeah, they don't turn. They still don't turn.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

All right, Jaden, the floor is yours. Let's let's air our grievances.

SPEAKER_06 16:26

No, we just I was I brought up a little bit of a problem I had back in the day. I believe you were playing with my mate Toby Benjamin at Royal Melbourne, and the story broke that I organised a house party that was way too big for my house, and old mate Simon Goodwin decided to drop me for the first time, and I had to send Tail Between My Legs the Facebook event post saying, guys, the party is off. Um pack it up because I'm playing the VFL on Sunday. Um and you on a golf course, which is I believe it's an oasis, a place where journalists don't be journalists and professions don't exist. You're with your mates. I believe you shouldn't be asking people about gossip.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Can I be actually serious for one second? Who is Toby Benjamin? I'm not even joking.

SPEAKER_06 17:24

He was playing alongside Jack Lidget. Are you you aware of that? I know Jack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack's a good man. He was playing a great story. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

I remember that story. Um and I thought can I just correct something for you just briefly?

SPEAKER_06 17:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

So fuck it. This is awkward. Okay, I just swore. Um this is a bit awkward. Uh mumbling. Do I have permission to tell the truth, Gash?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Oh, you can tell the truth, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Yeah, right. Okay, so I actually don't remember playing with anyone called Toby Benjamin at all. Not saying it didn't happen, I just can't recall. But I actually know where I got that story from and uh I actually regret to inform you it was Gashard.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

I beg your pardon? The wizard niggas himself.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

I'm I'm not even joking. I swear on my on my son's life that he's not happy. He's not happy.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

He's not happy. He's walked out of the studio.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

He's gone, has he? He's walked out of the studio.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

I I am going to I'm gonna answer. I've got some answering to do, and Hunty's not here, so this will fall on death ears.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Ordinarily, I wouldn't give up a source for a story, but I asked for your permission, Gash, and you said yes. You didn't.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Now I I hand on heart have no recollection of this. And it wasn't until I told you the other day that Hunty's called you out on the podcast and wants to get this one straight that you said no mate, it was you who told me. And I went, Yeah, no. In what world would I have told you? And you said no, you you confirmed it with me, and your rationale was that I he was he'd told 80 people on Facebook, so you thought it was a correct it was an open as the ball just falls down. So correct.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

So I and when Gash said when when you said when you said that to me, Gash, I I sort of doubted myself, but I I remember where I get every story from, and I went back in my deep in my messages from when that was was it 2018, 2019? Oh dear.

SPEAKER_06 19:30

I'm back here, by the way. Do you have evidence of this?

SPEAKER_03 19:33

I do, I do, yes. I went and found the message where Gash confirmed it. I've got it. Wow, that's big.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

I don't think you have that message.

SPEAKER_06 19:43

Tell me, tell me, Morris. I'm turning my hate towards my co-host here. You've just somehow reversed this, and I'm now a fan.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Can I can I thank you, Jaden? Can I say one thing? I agree with you about the golf course. It is a sacred haven, and no matter who I'm playing with, it might be Tom Ebbsworth, it might be Jack Lidget. I'm not asking about Jaden Hunt. I'm asking about your golf. I'm asking about your swing, your draw, your fade. I'm asking about your skills to be a professional one day. I'm not asking about you being dropped from an AFL. I don't care. I actually don't care.

SPEAKER_06 20:12

You told the story when I retired. That's it, you like, and uh they it got no traction because it was a shit story, but shit story. There's one gap in this whole thing is that Toby Benjamin literally rang me on the 10th hole saying Tom Morris is trying to get this shit out of out of me about you. So what do you say to that little bit?

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Are sure are you sure are you sure it was about being dropped or something else?

SPEAKER_06 20:34

Well, maybe something else. There's a few things floating around back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

I remember clearly, uh, yeah. I mean, I I I feel bad for Toby, but I've never actually heard of him. He's gonna love that. Um it's probably eight eight years ago. Um uh so gosh, I mean you sort of throwing yourself under the bus. You've invited me on the podcast without me knowing. So uh thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

I just wanted to make good on on this because I was as shocked as I'm sure Hunty was then. Um that's not in my uh it's not in my my blood to be sending uh uh some sort of messages after a few beers.

SPEAKER_06 21:19

Tommy Morris, I'll give you the sc the the tomorrow's scoop. The Grinner Golfcast no longer has a co-host. Oh very good job.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Thank you for having me pack it up soon.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Say up, say up, mate.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

I feel like I'm in the no man's eight years.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

I honest to God had no recollection of it. And you got me, and um yeah, Mozard Mozart was able to confirm that I did inform him that uh that happened. Because when he told that story on on SCN, he said it was your 25th. I was like, mate, I didn't even know Hunty when I was 21. So it couldn't have been me.

SPEAKER_06 22:04

It was my um house swarming.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Yeah. Well, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Well, there you go. Wow. It's got a bit frosty. Well, I'm feeling very uncomfortable sitting in here.

SPEAKER_06 22:19

How's no one knowing the grinnerman? We've had Jack Rudder. Gourney didn't know who Jack Rudder was. Now we've got Tommy Murray. Oh wow. These characters in the footy industry just don't remember the common soul of the golf. Straight over your shoulder. Exactly right. Anyway, we'll move on.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

Alright. Not see question without notice. And by the way, the the artwork this week is being very generous.

SPEAKER_04 22:45

I am stoked. I'm going to need the uh link to this AI. That has done me some serious favours there. Unbelievable. Fronts. Very happy with the hairline and the um the piercing blue eyes. Very happy with that. Yeah. Welcome. Shame it's not reality, but anyway.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Oh well. Alright, question without notice. If you can steal one thing from our golf game to put into your golf game, what would you steal?

SPEAKER_04 23:05

And why? Hunty's putting. Um, because he's good and better better than me at it. Um and your golf game. Here we go. This is big. What would I steal from your golf game?

SPEAKER_06 23:20

Uh absolute tumbleweed here.

SPEAKER_04 23:24

Um that is a question about you probably should have given me some notice. Um this is your captain you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I I just want to his leadership maybe, because he's more successful than you. Maybe leadership, but what I was probably thinking is just the way you go about it on the golf course. Just the just the way you just put the team on your shoulders.

SPEAKER_07 23:44

Just the way you go about it.

SPEAKER_04 23:46

That's very vague, isn't it? No, just just you, you know, you've had your first crack in, you know, in Thailand at, you know. Let me finish. At at the the leadership of the shafts, and the way you just chucked us on your back and just carry us to glory, mate. That's that's something that I couldn't do often enough, and something Lidgy couldn't do often enough, so it's it's down to you. The dynasty's begun.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Just the way you go about it. I'll keep that in mind right now.

SPEAKER_06 24:13

Jack, can I ask my hands on my head again? Can I ask in ten words or less why you're not the captain of the shafts anymore? Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

I stepped down after we lost 7-1 in Queensdown.

SPEAKER_06 24:25

Not one single skin they won, they won two halves. That's pathetic.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Yep, but you're only as good as your last grinner, and we're the champions. Quickly back to the canary. There's a grinner rule here. If you are the current canary holder and one of the grinnermen happens to get married, you're allowed to wear the canary to the wedding. Case in point, this happened a couple of weeks ago, didn't it? And did you wear the canary?

SPEAKER_04 24:48

I wore the canary to the wedding. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't breathing. Oh, it doesn't breathe well. I'll give you the tip. It's uh it's it was hot that day too. So um speaking of gypsies with a mortgage over here, Patrick. Yeah, it was hot, but um, it was a good good conversation starter, good little icebreaker.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

How'd you go?

SPEAKER_04 25:07

Oh, it's great. Had a hoop of piss. It's good. Lidie got married as well, congratulations. And to the first lady of the Ben Shafts as well, Mom. What did um and we and we got a shout out, the Ben Shafts got a shout out in the vows. In the vows. Up the shafts. Yeah, cop that. Yeah. That was brilliant. It was actually in a well, she was talking about when we lose. Yeah. Um, she was actually. But um consoles matter.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Any PR is good, PR. Up the shafts. I even liked it when um Locky Alien the other day, your legend jacked the frigid.

SPEAKER_06 25:41

That was good.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

That was funny. Now, okay, this is the single I've been waiting for because the canary is the individual prize, but the prize we really play for on the grinner is this bad boy.

SPEAKER_06 25:51

Oh, you boy. Here it is, here it is.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

And look at this beautiful thing. It's been resharfed. It has been resharfed.

SPEAKER_06 26:00

See, this is what happens. I give them the trophy for once in their life, and he's put it upside down.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

This beautiful little thing, the Grinner Invitational Champions, is what we play for. It is my former five iron, um, which I wrapped around a tree on the Gold Coast. Um, it came back with interest that day and pierced my chin. And Vodafone. If that landed in my eye or my throat, could have been a different story. But uh, this is what we play for. It used to sit the opposite way around. Um, my mother took it, she's a nurse, and she took it into her school where she worked, and the the woodworking teacher uh said, Give me a give me a go at that. I'll uh I'll I'll fix it up for you. Yep. Okay. Yep. Uh and she um she gives it to him, and two days later it comes back upside down. So the woodworker It actually looks good. Whether it's a mare or it actually mare gives it a little bit of character. It actually looks good. But have a feel of that. That's it, that's in there rock solid. Like that ain't moving now, because it's always been an issue. It was only just glued onto the plinth, and now it's just absolutely screwed in.

SPEAKER_04 27:02

Oh no, you're not there touching it off.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

So that's a big up the shafts. We had a story come in last week, uh, and we discussed it. It was the bloke getting the hole in one on a Provi ball, um, clamming it at Portsy. Yeah. Hole two. It remained anonymous, but you know, we've heard a story like that before and it's pretty ordinary. Um this one's come across my desk. It's sl it's slightly weird, but uh I think I know who it's from, but I can't categorically say. Now, um it's come from the UK and the opening line says, Hey, my name's Gavin, I'm from the UK. And I go, Hunty wanting to ban animals on the golf course reminded me of this incident. So we were on a golf trip playing on one of those courses built on common land. Do you guys know what common land is in England? It's what it's land that the government still owns, but around the English countryside. Yeah, Crown Land. So um a lot of courses out there, you know, are on common land. Anyway, you know the type sheep everywhere, walkers cutting across, dogs chasing balls. Anyway, we're mid-round in a match, and I've hit one smack down the fairway. We're walking up, and suddenly a cow just wanders across. No rush, no concern, just owns the place. Walks straight over my ball, and I mean straight over it. We get there, and the thing's been completely squished into the ground, covered in muck, half embedded, basically unrecognisable. I say, surely I can replace that. My playing group say absolutely not play it as well.

SPEAKER_06 28:32

Plain and simple.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

End of story is they lose that match by that hole, and he's never been able to forgive his mates. Where do you stand on the fabled cow incident?

SPEAKER_04 28:43

Display cow from Gavin mates. Yeah. If they can't see that they need to apply a little bit of common sense there, that is that is terrible for me. Common sense is the law. Yeah, well the ball's embedded.

SPEAKER_06 28:54

The ball is embedded, yeah. So that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

So but but his mates here said it's just a bad rubber grave.

SPEAKER_06 29:03

Sorry. Yeah, this he needs new mates.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

He does need new mates, Gav. Gav from Essex.

SPEAKER_06 29:08

Actually, I don't know, because the embedded rule is based on conditions. Like it's supposed to stop when it's really damp and wet. I don't think they were thinking of a cow in the rule. So I will go back and I'll have to look that one up because an animal embedded in it. I know if you're in an animal footprint, it's a free drop.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Surely that is an animal footprint.

SPEAKER_06 29:28

Well you'd think, well, yeah, obviously the cow would leave a hoof mark, I guess. So the ground's obviously soft enough.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah. Yeah. I I genuinely don't know the answer.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

No, I reckon you can. I'd be shocked if I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

If that happened on the grinner, what would you be doing? Well, you'd you'd drop it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:45

What's the what's the official standing on it? The best place about the best thing about Kate Wickham is if you miss the fairway, Rick Monday says, Oh, it's in a fucking the bird hole. Every sort of side of the fairway at Wickham is some plover of what's the bird? Uh well are they mutton? Plovers. Mutton birds, mutton birds. And Rick reckons the whole the whole rough is mutton birds. So you just you hit it into the gooboomba and it's mutton birds.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

You listen to the uh you listened to the episode the other week. No. He can't say it, but his dad can say it perfectly.

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Yeah, we're getting dad in soon. So doomba, clear the air. I thought it was just called the Bunda.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

So we'll get to the city. So final rule shit mates should be let to drop.

SPEAKER_04 30:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Gavin's well within his right to but Huntie doesn't change his stance, ban animals on golf courses.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

No, I took that back. I've grown up over the last few weeks. Also, cows would just completely ruin the conditions. They're obviously playing an absolute dog track. If there's cows on the balls, it's a mate.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Where I used to live in England was near a course like this, and they just wander around. And you could hit one with a ball and it would not even realise.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

Yeah, it's like kangaroos. But they but they rope off the green, so they don't walk around. They don't walk on the green. So if your ball's on the green, you're safe from a couch. Probably.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

It's not probably. No. Move on, please.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Ultimate course time. Yes. Um, we're up to hole five. Jaden Bug, quick update of where we are at.

SPEAKER_06 31:20

Do you want the whole rundown? Yeah. One Vic, Albatross, Griffo, two, Southern, Gorny, Double Par four. Number three, I believe, was St. Andrews muscles, three iron into a beautiful approach through the fucking Gulliff. And then hole four, we had Davies. We heard from the hole in one. Yeah. Yeah. Over the ocean, ocean dunes, great holes. You'd know. Um so yeah, basically three short par fours to start, and then a par three. Chuck in the RM soup guy at the third T-box, and we're looking pretty good. So we're up to hole number five. Which, to be honest, there's some absolute ripper par fives in Australia. Um, not par fives, hole fives. Um, good start. Anyway, we'll start with our guest.

SPEAKER_04 32:05

Have you got your favourite and friend of the show, Toby Benjamin, would be um it would be remiss of me not to mention that a couple of honourable mentions. Uh Collier Park over in WA, the late course fifth hole over the water. Is he drive in? It's just the one on the. That's a signature. Yeah. Um, it's a pretty easy hole. I just dunked dunked an ace there, and then um Kingston Heath fifth hole par three. Uh Toby got his ace there. So um honourable mentions there, and I reckon probably just off the top of the head, New South Wales Golf Club, probably one of the best views in Australian golf. Fifth there, but that hole's overrated.

SPEAKER_06 32:43

Um you you you could have named any hole and you've gone, this hole's the best, but it's overrated. Well, it's overrated, it's just a straight par five. Why'd you nominate?

SPEAKER_04 32:54

He said the view, he said the view was great. The view's great. Oh, yeah. But I I reckon, I reckon RM West.

SPEAKER_06 32:59

No, you can't. How many? That's fine. Rutzi's giving us two honourable mentions and the South Wales. Fifth at New South Wales. So the New South Wales.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

You're nominating the hole that's overrated.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Yeah, because I'm not allowed to do the one that I actually think. Uh Bunk. Because Bunky's got to have the final says we know. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_06 33:18

Uh I actually am gonna say the same thing. No, I'm gonna say RM West, which is a phenomenal hole, but I believe it's overrated because there's a massive black stain on that hole. The most arrogant golf I reckon I've ever played with has got a hole in one there. So it doesn't sit too strongly on me. Angus Brayshaw, he always brings it up. When we're talking about handicapped, he's like, Yeah, but if you got a hole in one, hunty, his go-to. And I I will admit it is a bloody world-class hole. Up and down over the what do they call it? There's a word for it if you leave it short and you've got a you've got in the canvas of canvas, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Cavass. Jeez.

SPEAKER_06 34:00

Great path, great, great par three. Um, slopey green, down the hill, up the hill, and you can use the banks depending on the pin. Yeah. Don't miss the green though, because it's a hard up and down from the bunkers.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

It's very hard. Okay, uh, that's that would be two par threes in a row for the ultimate golf course. I am going back to where I used to be a member. The Legends at Mooner. Now, it's a par five, but for about two and a half years there, they had to bring the T-box forward by about 150 metres, and they left it as a par five because some bloke who lived in the house on the right complained that too many balls were getting hit into his uh into his veranda. And so he goes, I am taking this all the way to the court. So the golf club they had just had to suck it up and move the T-box well, well, well short. Now it was still in the book as a par five. If you got onto your drive, you were about 55 metres from the green.

SPEAKER_07 34:53

Oh, beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

So you really had a big chance to score. And I purely it was just an absolute confidence lifter if you had a bad start uh and you could get back on the straight and narrow. So for a little bit of a laugh, uh, I don't know if the T-Box is still forward or if they've sorted the issue. I go Moonalinx number five on the legends.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

On for two, three putts, take your two points on the six.

SPEAKER_06 35:16

Exactly right. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to go with you there, Patrick. Are you? Yeah, I'm not I'm not happy about two par threes in a row. With the short with the short T's. With the shortened T's? Just for the shortened T's, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

I genuinely reckon you could drive the green on the par five with the shortened T's. And then you're putting for your LB.

SPEAKER_06 35:34

Yeah, that would be very nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

An LB putt. I like it.

SPEAKER_06 35:37

You'd like it? And we can we can ask for that man whose veranda it was, whether he he listens to the pod, he might ring in.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Okay. Well, I heard he yeah, he didn't quite get along with the uh who's who at the golf club because um there were a few legal uh complaints I I believe getting thrown over the over the fence.

SPEAKER_04 35:57

He's bought a house on the golf course and he's complaining about golf course.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Yeah, play silly games, win silly prizes, I say.

SPEAKER_04 36:03

One of those blokes.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Missed uh right up. Okay, so are we declaring it? Hell five?

SPEAKER_06 36:07

Yeah, okay. With with the with the shortened tease. It's a shortened T.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

And Rutzi, you're you happy with that? I'm on board with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:14

Wave the wheel.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

All right, Auntie. Spin the frickin' wheel. You know how this works. It's been a weird episode. It's been a very weird episode. You know how this works. Whatever it lands on. You ring that footy play. You better hope it is number 19. Mitch Hannon.

SPEAKER_06 36:34

Mitch Hannon, I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Um Eagles?

SPEAKER_06 36:37

I don't know numbers, no idea.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Ratsy?

SPEAKER_06 36:41

Brady Hoff? Oh, it is Brady Hoff.

SPEAKER_04 36:44

Is it? Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Who the hell is Brady Hoff?

SPEAKER_04 36:46

He's a good man, he'd probably remember me as well. We played at Arra Leon that day. Oh, should we ring Brady Hoff? We ring Brady Hoff.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Okay. The Hofster. Um, give me a phone.

SPEAKER_04 36:57

Can we double check that by the way? That's number 19 for the Eagles. Yeah, I've got Brady House. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

You got Brady Hoff? Give me a phone. We're giving Brady a call. Number 19, West Coast Eagles. He's on the wheel on it. Well you are zip from four. You don't have any friends.

SPEAKER_06 37:18

Why does everyone hate me? Oh Brady, how you gonna mate? Um I am gonna be in the land of Perth in a few weeks. I was wondering uh you wanted to catch up, miss your mate. Um I know you're injured, so uh might be able to play a bit more golf, but I'd love to hit links with you. Let me know.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

See you, Brady. Mate, if you just got a carbon copy of the same voice message now, we could just play a pre-record. And you call it the land of perk. It's a freaking city, mate. Alright, uh, do you have Mitch Hannon?

SPEAKER_06 38:00

Yeah, I reckon.

SPEAKER_04 38:02

Do we have it? Mitch Hannon.

SPEAKER_06 38:15

Oh, he doesn't have my number. Hey mate, it's Jaden Hunty. How are you going? Oh, Hunty, how are you, Mate? Good mate. Good to see that you've lost my number over those years, but it's alright.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

I actually don't know if I that's I definitely would have. I don't know. Give me that, let me look that up right now.

SPEAKER_06 38:33

It's alright. It's okay. I was just uh thinking about you, and I was um I've just been playing a lot of golf. I was wondering if you wanted to a round of golf.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Mate, I'm absolutely horrific at golf, but I'll I'll still come for a bash, but um, if you like. I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close with some of the um you probably know them, like Anthony Scott and then like Courtney Baker as well. Yeah, yeah. Um I know they'd probably be keen for a hit as well.

SPEAKER_06 38:59

Yeah, it sounds bloody fantastic. I've uh I've actually got to go. Um someone's knocking at my door, but let's get around the gulf. Yeah, sounds good, sounds good. I'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

Someone's knocking at my door.

SPEAKER_06 39:33

He's such a good bloke as well. And he's not he he wouldn't admit that he doesn't have my number. He's look where was he looking? I'm hurting. I am hurting.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Oh, that's my name.

SPEAKER_04 39:50

He's finally got a man. It was a very empty yes.

SPEAKER_06 39:56

Oh I didn't have an exit strategy. Guys ringing back.

SPEAKER_04 40:01

You guys are don't answer. Who's that calling?

SPEAKER_02 40:07

It's it's Mitch. Sorry, mate. Not answering. Oh wow. I'm speechless.

SPEAKER_04 40:15

Well you didn't lock in at tea time, so he's probably wondering what they're wondering and wondering what course. You might have to nut out the nitty-gritty off air.

SPEAKER_06 40:23

Absolutely panic.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

Oh, wowie. That was that. I didn't we haven't dressed done a dress rehearsal on this segment. Are you are we talking in it or not? I just had to let you just roll.

SPEAKER_06 40:35

Well, you can't be talking in it because that takes away the effect.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Oh, excellent. Okay. That and that and that great goal mate in the final when he ran down the wing and one bounced it. 2018, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:56

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

I think that I think that wraps us up. Any final thoughts, questions, musings? Jack Ritoli. That was good.

SPEAKER_04 41:06

Um, I'm not sure if there's gonna be an episode this week giving the attention, but I think that might have been the perfect way to break the ice between you two. Again, is um in the unlikely form of Mitch Hannon answering his phone. Um but yeah, no, thanks for having me on. It's been good and look forward to the uh the grinner coming up. And yeah, yeah, you're trying to steal my jacket back off me, but you can have it for now.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Up the shafts, mate.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

Up the shafts.

SPEAKER_06 41:30

All right, we're doing we'll do a gift exchange. So what do you got for us? Happily well, yeah. I've oh the jacket's here. Yeah, we'll put it in the hall of fame on there. The golf ball's fallen. We'll put it in the far corner of the guest panel. And in return, I'd like to give you this to wear.

SPEAKER_04 41:46

Oh god, that's not a very fair extra. See how it looks? I'll take off the Ben Shafts baggie. The Nintendo controller might be poking out the top.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

See if we can pop the Nintendo head out. Oh my god, that is like Ian.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

Is there any receding behind the visor? I'll tell you what, tell you who was also good at match play, Ian Polter. Yeah, so I might have to look good. I might have to go to this sunscreen on the top of our head.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

That's incredible. No, I that's been the Grinna Golf Course. We've Golf Course. The Grinette Golf Cast. Brought to you by Golf Loot as well. A couple of weeks ago, a fellow, I think his name is Shane, he won a trip down to um King Island and Barn Bugle and Eight Mile and oh Jesus. And isn't there some Masters draw coming up? Oh, I've signed up. Um I'm on board as well.

SPEAKER_06 42:39

You're on board?

SPEAKER_02 42:40

We're all all aboard on Golf Loot.

SPEAKER_06 42:42

Let's just hope Golf Loot's with us next week as I was testing an episode.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

No, it was it was all fun, maybe a little bit of editing magic will get this one flying. Don't worry about that. Um Ruty, thanks for coming on, mate.

SPEAKER_07 42:53

My pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

We added hole five of the ultimate golf course. Um Hungy and I are not going to look at each other for the rest of the week, but Mitch Hannon did save the day.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

That's been the Where are you gonna play with Mitch? When? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Recovering.

SPEAKER_04 43:10

We have to do a collab there.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

That's been the Grinny Golfcast. Thanks for tuning in. It's fast, it's loose, it's ready golf.