Say More about asking questions

This week we talk about the freedom we have to ask questions! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:57

Hey, and welcome to the Say More Podcast. It is a weekly podcast at a Fullerton Free Church in Fullerton, California. Um if you are North Orange County and you come here, we are discussing last week's message. And last week's message was uh shared to us by one of our guests today on the Say More podcast. Please welcome Connor. The crowd goes wild. They did. And then also joining us today from the wild world of the children of our church, we have Melinda.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

Hi, friends. Hey.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

How are you guys? Living the dream. Congrats. We're so happy to have you here. This is uh this is great. Um, we are last week, Connor shared with well, we were talking before we get to that, uh, we were talking music, the the opening song. Yeah, what were what were our thoughts on uh the same word? We I let you hear that that verse for the first time today. What are you guys thinking about it? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Did it say listen in? Yeah, lean in and let's lean in and let's talk about the word. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Yeah. Um, I think it's the best song you've ever heard. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:17

So I for a long time have held the belief. Um, and I want to know what I'm gonna ask it as a question because I've learned recently that questions are important. Yeah, um, I believe that Blink 182 ruined music for 15 years because they were so good, and they made you believe that if you know three chords and were punk, you could be make a billion dollars. And so every band tried to do the same thing and uh and it was just bad for like 15 years. Thoughts on on that belief of mine.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

You're talking to somebody who was in a Blink 182 cover band in high school. Stop! So I didn't know this. So uh I think Blink 182 didn't do anything wrong, I just think it's other people weren't as talented as Blink 182.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Like you can't blame them for being too good. Can't we blame them for being too good? No, no, you can't.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

That's wrong. You gotta be better.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

I think too, like Travis Barker is like one of the best drummers ever. Yes. And other bands just didn't have Travis Barker. They couldn't do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:21

Do you think that if all the other bands had had Travis Barker, they would have been as successful? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Like if you could have moved him over to being like part of some 41 or Gym Class Heroes or any of those other, you know, like uh, do you feel like that they would have succeeded the way that Blink 182 did? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

I think it's a really important question. What do you think, Melinda?

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Um, I was just thinking, I feel out of my range in this conversation as I was exclusively listening to Panna Montana. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:53

Do you feel like OC Supertones would have been as big if they had had him and the drums, you know?

SPEAKER_02 3:58

I gotta be honest, that's not a band that I know. That's almost like Christian Punk.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

This is great. All right, well, welcome to the Seymour podcast. Uh, Connor, last week you spoke on free from rigidity. Yes, free to ask questions. Can you just give us a little recap about what last week was about?

SPEAKER_02 4:16

I would love to give us a little recap. We had a great time on Sunday morning speaking about this topic. What did we talk about, Connor? Great question. Uh so we started with free from rigidity. Uh, really, what I wanted us to think about on Sunday was what does it mean that we're free to ask questions? I named rigidity or rigidness.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Yeah, I think one of those is definitely a word.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Right. Uh-huh. Uh, as one of the obstacles to asking questions, but in reality, there's many of them. Sometimes our own pride gets in the way, sometimes fear of what people will think of us gets in the way, uh, religious performance, all sorts of different things can get in the way from us asking questions. Uh, and as we thought about questions, we thought about our friend John the Baptist, who we think of as like a hero of the faith because he is, but he also has this very human and real moment where he's in prison and he sends his disciples to go ask Jesus, like, are you really the Messiah or should we expect somebody else? And I feel like that story gives me it just encourages me that there's there's freedom to ask questions, you know, that even John the Baptist, who Jesus said was the greatest man ever born of w of of women, or something like that, he he had questions, and that's alright if we have questions as well. So and I really wanted to encourage all of us to bring our questions not only to community, but also to think about what does it mean to bring our questions to God, and that He God can handle all of our doubts, our questions, our other synonyms for questions. Yeah, and that's what we talked about.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Um loved it, and uh yeah, I I felt like it was it was a great day, you know, like it it was one of our family services, which is always cool, and uh and we do love questions. Um, but sadly we didn't get any questions this week. So we are going to ask the questions that we have. Uh kind of of it. Munda, what were your thoughts on kind of uh what he had shared? What what's your like follow-up? You know, you're like if I wanted to talk more, if I wanted to say more about this, this is what I would want to say more uh perhaps about.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Um I think after for me personally listening to it, I think it was a good reminder that we can, I think even in your message you talked about not um making polite questions, but like being honest and being like, this is where I'm at. And I think for me that was a good good reminder that we can go to God with all of our questions in every form that they come in. And then after, because it was Family Sunday, so we had all the kids in service, we checked in with like the first through fifth graders during community hour. And I asked them, like, hey, what did you guys learn? Tell me, like, it's always an interesting we don't teach for that long, and so for them to go into main service, I'm always interested to see what they pulled out of it. And the first thing they said was they remembered um Connor's stinky room. Yes. I thought that was hilarious. Um, but I think something that I was really impressed with was that they did remember like details about John the Baptist and about him asking questions, and so we were even able to talk about as kids like you're allowed to ask questions and you should ask questions, and then I leaned into them in a way of I want you guys to be curious always, and always asking questions and learning about who Jesus is, and you can ask your parents or me or your teachers or your friends. Um, and so for me, I think walking out of there it was really sweet to see the things that like even the first through fifth graders learned in main service from Connor's message.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

That's really cool. I love that. Alex Flora told me that he asked some fourth and fifth graders what they remember for the message, and they said LeBron James.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

So he Connor did have some good examples, some good things that stuck with kids.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

I I think I like visuals and I like silly things. I can't I can't, you know, I get I get bored as a listener sometimes just because of my Gen Z attention span. So I like things that break it up a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

You know, no, and it makes the questions so much more real when it's like a real human experience. And we don't we never share with each other in like long soliloquies of like, let me tell you this for 20 minutes. Yeah, we go back and forth. So yeah, you gotta make it uh comfortable that way. I know that um as I was listening, um, this is just something that I've been trying to do more in life. I've talked about it on the podcast, is trying to step back from my to use a Gen Z, maybe Gen Z term, um, from my main character energy. Um step back and be like, what if instead of looking at it just as like what are the questions I'm asking? But be like, how do I be a good asked to er? Um question receiver. A question receiver? Like, what do I do? And if I want to be in a community that feels free to ask questions, I have to be good at having questions asked to me. You know? How do I do that? Like uh what what are your guys' thoughts as we're talking about you know, at free to ask questions, both to God, like I that's that's yes, and uh, but also in community, yeah. How do we be a good community to the questions? What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 9:49

I mean, I think not being defensive is a big one. Like if people come with questions, whatever it's about, sometimes people's questions can, you know, to use another Gen Z word, trigger like something in us where it's like, you know, maybe they ask a question about God and I have that same question about God. My first instinct might be to kind of pull out all of my whatever knowledge that I have about that thing and spout it out at them. But to like, I don't know, to really receive the question to not get defensive or um you know, not jump to a simple answer, but to kind of wrestle with it with that person or to even say, Oh, I I've wondered about the same thing, you know, just to kind of normalize that if you're asking questions, then you're in the right place.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

I also think about like if if I'm thinking about asking questions to people, like a big question, I think about who are my safe people and why do they feel like my safe people. And I think before you even ask, before a question is asked to you, there's a relationship that's built where you allow people to be honest with you in general and you not that you're you're wanting to become a safe space for everybody, but I think like you just you're open and you're honest and you receive them with love and yeah, because I feel like I don't normally think about taking big questions to people that don't feel like my safe people, and so when you think about that, you're like, oh, how do I become a safe person if somebody needs it? You're open and you're kind, you're honest, you're willing to receive whatever they have, whatever they're bringing to you.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that often, even like the an overlooked, you know, as we're like, oh, there's Jesus, I want to follow after him. Like, one of those overlooked things in how do we follow after him is like security that uh like when you ask a big question to God, he's not offended by it because he's not wondering who he is. Like, God's very comfortable with who God is, and uh God is very understanding of who God is, and your misunderstanding doesn't diminish God or doesn't make God smaller. And so if we can be in our community, the same sort of like I don't need to be defensive if someone's like, hey man, I don't know if I agree with that, right? Okay, like I'm not uh I'm not needing you to uh agree with God on that, like because that doesn't change God, and and uh I don't know if that's fair or not. I just that's what I was thinking about in that as I was like, oh, how do I get away because defensive does feel right all the time. I feel like someone asks a question that I feel like is offensive to my faith or something, I'm like, how do I not respond in this way of like, ooh, here's where you're wrong?

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Um but yeah, yeah. And I think not to reference something that I said on Sunday, that's literally myself. Yeah, actually you say more about what you said on Sunday. I'll say more. I think that like questions really are, even intellectual questions, are on some level like a bid for connection, like they're an attempt to be connected to somebody. And so even if somebody comes to me with a question that takes me back a little bit, the fact that they have a question for me or for our church or for God, whatever it is, it shows me that they care and that they're interested in in something, you know? And so being able to sometimes even like see through the question to see somebody who's longing to feel connected or longing to understand more deeply, that that gives me helpful like context for people sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

When you guys think about the questions that people ask, like it feels like we're obviously saying that big one is is like, God, are you there? You know, um but there's a lot of other questions that people are like it's not only that one, right? Um as you're figuring out your own faith, like how yeah, how do you feel comfortable asking not just that big one, but the other ones to God, as you're like, oh, are you like this? Are you not like this? Should I be like this? Like, like, I don't know, like, do you categorize those things differently? I guess I'm just thinking more about questions and uh what questions we're even asking. Like, like I know that for me, one of my biggest, this is me being very vulnerable on this podcast. One of my biggest stick points in in my faith is I I have a hard time when I see people using God's name to their own glory and him not doing something about it. Um, and my question that I keep going back to him about is like, why aren't you standing up for yourself a little bit? Like uh that person just use you to make them taller. Right. Why don't you knock them down a little bit? Right. And it bothers me, and I and I find myself asking it often to him. Like, I'm like, oh God, that's gross. Why can't you make that better? I don't know. Are there other like big questions you feel like are regular ones that people are asking often?

SPEAKER_02 15:05

I think in the well, this is like in the world of student ministries, but also just everyone I think is asking this. But I mean you referenced it, but God, where are you? In the sense of why can't I feel God's presence? Like, why does he feel so far away? Is that me? Is that him? What's going on there? I think that's a big one. Like, if I if he really is like the God of the universe who loves me and sent his son to die for me and put his Holy Spirit in my heart, like how come I can't feel that he's there?

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

And I that's a that's one that I that a question that comes up for me at times, and a question that I feel like I find myself walking with a lot of people who are asking that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

And I feel like in my mind I was thinking, God, where are you in terms of like I'm suffering and I'm in pain or life is really hard, and like where the heck are you in the midst of like all of this? And I think I mean I've asked that for sure, and I know that other people have.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

It feels like it's all the time. Like in the and I think that there's a part where especially as with it being like kind of the youth sundae or whatever, like there is these questions that we think of so much in the like youth world. Like I like of like, God, what what are you doing? Where are you? And then there's hopefully a recognition as we get older that like those don't just go away. Like like I I'm hopeful, well, I'm glad, A, that I'm you know, 40 now, and that when I was that I I look back at when I was 30 and I'm like, I'm so glad that I've gotten that that I I did I don't view everything the same way now as I did then, you know. And I'm like, and at 30, I look back at 20 and I'm like, oh, I just wasn't I wasn't smart. I like like I was like, I there were so many things, and I also look at that at 20, I feel like I had more certainty on more things than I do at 40. Um, and yet I feel like I've experienced more and understand more and all that sort of stuff now, where um there is like a freedom to be like, oh, maybe my small answer didn't actually fulfill the whole thing that I needed it to. And I don't know. I I guess that I'm finding freedom as I get older to be like, gosh, I'm so glad that I don't have to land on one thing and be like, this is for for everything in my life, this is the only, you know, and like I'm able to continue to grow and develop. I don't that was not really a question, that was more of a statement than anything. One day y'all will get old like me and y'all experience um we're on our way every day, a little bit closer.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

30 is right around the corner. Someone told me I achieved unk status recently. So you know what's weird? Were you happy about that? Or I don't really know how I felt about it. What is weird though is that I've been serving in in student ministry since I graduated, like since I was 19, like since right out of high school. And I remember when students used to kind of think of me as like the cool college student leader, you know, like, oh, Connor's so cool, he's just a little bit older than us. And now parents will come up to me and they'll be like, My my daughter and my son, they love you so much because they're like, Connor, he's like a he's like a dad. He's like dad energy. I'm like, oh shoot. I have dad energy now. I used to have college energy. I know. Uh I love it. Yep. Great. Um, speaking of questions. All right, I got a couple questions for you guys. Uh we're ready. We did this last time, but we're gonna do a little rapid fire trivia, okay? Um I'll ask both of you. Well, I'll ask Melinda the question first. If she gets it wrong, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

I would also like to say that before we did this, I said I don't like trivia.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Well, but he didn't hear it. There was no question. It was just a state question.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

He said, We're doing trivia.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Here we go. All right, some trivia. All right, some trivia. Melinda. Yes. Who is a Gen Z singer known for hits like Bad Guy and Happier Than Ever?

SPEAKER_01 19:17

I have no idea. Like, I don't even have a guess. You don't even have a guess? No. Think, think, okay, bad guy? Taylor Swift. No.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Is that Billie Eilish? Ding ding ding. Yes! Billy's so much more Gen Z than you, Melinda. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Alright. Wow. Kyle takes the lead one-zero. All right, Kyle, this question is for you. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Hate trivia.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Do you want to sing one of those songs for us, Linda? Okay. Melinda, you Melinda's been telling me she wants to join the worship team. Did you want to sing a little bit?

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Connor and Connor won't let me. Isn't that so mean?

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Oh my gosh. Do you want to sing a little bit? You can audition right now.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Okay, I don't want to make my debut here in better success.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

It's probably not a good confession. But um at one time at a church that I used to work at, um, one time, so they did all of their piano on tracks at the church. It was all like pre on the back end track. Uh-huh. And so, but they always had someone playing it on stage, you know, in case the track went bad or whatever, so that it made sense that you heard piano noises. But the piano player didn't show up one morning. And so they came and asked me if I could be a fake piano player on stage during the service because there was piano played in it. Right. But I could hear a piano. You could hear a piano, but no one was playing.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

So you said put that on my resume. I'm a piano.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

I am part of the worship band. It's amazing. And so I faked played piano, wasn't plugged in. And uh and I was just playing it during the service, and it was it's probably not good. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

That's like Lizzie McGuire movie. Right, Linda? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

100 years. Okay, perfect. I've never seen this.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

So good movie. What year did the first iPhone release mark the beginning of the smartphone era for Gen Z, Kyle?

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Okay. Um I got my first one, which was the iPhone 4. Nope. 3GS in 2011. Or 12? I'm gonna say 11. So I'm gonna say the first one came out in 2009, is my guess.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Very close. Oh, uh Melinda, would you like to guess? 2008. Uh, 2007. Oh close. The Red Sox had just won the World Series. Steve Jobs said it's time for the iPhone. Shout out to the Smiley family, who was all over the stage on Sunday. They're Red Sox fans. Oh. All right. That's where that. Alright, Melinda, you're true.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

And by all over the stage, he means they were singing.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Oliver. Alright, Melinda. What's the name of the Battle Royale game that became a cultural phenomenon amongst Gen Z gamers?

SPEAKER_00 22:15

I don't even know. Is that like a video game?

SPEAKER_02 22:18

A video game. What's a big video game amongst Gen Z gamers? I have no idea. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

Is that is that Fortnite? Fortnite. You've never made Fortnite before.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Connor, are you a big Fortnite? Is that what you call it?

SPEAKER_02 22:36

I've gone through some pretty, pretty strong Fortnite phases. Yeah. Alright. And now, Kyle. Final question. Final question. Final question. Well, you already kind of won because it's too much. It's worth two points. This one's worth two points. It's worth three points.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Whole podcast just makes me feel dumb.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Well, oh no. We can unpack that later.

SPEAKER_05 22:59

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

I'm kidding. Alright. Here we go. Um who was the first YouTuber to reach 100 million subscribers?

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Hmm. I don't know if this is the first one, but isn't Mr. Beast the one with the most? I don't know if he was first or not. He was not first. Okay. Good guess.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

A hundred million? Yep.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

I don't even know that many people.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

I don't think most people know that many people. I couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

You don't know a hundred million people? No. I don't think I do either. Jenna Marbles? That's a good guess. Uh the answer is PewDiePie. Oh, I don't know who that is. Kind of a bummer to end on a both wrong.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

But what can you do? Um Kyle Wins. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Um, I had a question that went with that. Okay. But now I don't remember what it was. Sorry, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Um I don't have anything to say. Should we do it? I think we're done with it with previous. Um okay that was really fun though. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

We really uh question. I never want to do it again. Um I but while we were talking, I was thinking more about this idea of the question. So I want to go back to our topic for a minute before we end. We're locking back in. Yep. So one thing that I was thinking about as in like a community of asking questions, and then the way that I ask questions is I was like, is there am I asking questions in a way that engages my community to engage back with me? Um, or do I ask questions that are shutting down them from being able to respond? Um, and here's what I mean. So going back to the um one of my favorite topics, which is philosophy things, is that there are two different types of logic. Um, there is an inductive reasoning and deductive reasoning. Um, inductive means that you are working towards an answer, and deductive means that you've presented an answer and now you're proving that answer to be correct. So one uh and and so recognizing that, I've feel like that I'm trying to make an effort in my life to view my communities much more inductively. Um that I come with an idea of I'm like, hey, maybe uh we should find, like, are we doing the best possible thing to love our neighbors well? Um, like I believe that God says love God and love others. Are we doing that the best possible way? Can you guys help me come to a better conclusion of how I do that right instead of joining the conversation being like, hey, are we doing this right because here's where we're doing it wrong? And now I've set like a end point that we have to like break down instead of like breaking up towards. Does that make sense at all? Or did I just go off the rails a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 25:57

I think I understood you're saying like going into a topic, not assuming that you have the answer, but working together to get to the answer. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

That's and I think that what that does is it enables people in your community to not be defensive of an answer because you haven't started with a statement. You know what I mean? Like you've started with a I want to learn, you know, and uh yeah, well, I don't know. That was just what I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Also, I love the side eye that Melinda when you asked, does that make sense? Melinda's face said no. Not yet, not really.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

I was like, great, because I haven't flushed this out yet.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

I haven't finished my coffee. That's all I mean. Something similar when go ahead. No go no, because mine is not on topic.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

I'll go quick. When I was at Talbot, one of the things that they taught us when it comes to sitting with people who are coming to you with different issues, is starting from a position of not knowing, like starting from a position of not assuming that I know the answer. Now, obviously, like we can look to the scriptures and we do have some answers, but when somebody says, Hey, I'm really struggling with this thing, my starting position is not necessarily that I have the one silver bullet fixed for it, but hey, let's sit together, help me understand where you're coming from, and let's figure this out together. Like, let's let's see where the Lord is leading you in this together. And I think when we can as a community take that kind of gentle, curious posture uh while still holding on to the truths of our faith, I think that that can make it safer for people to bring their questions forward. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

My totally off-topic thing was I feel like we brought up really heavy questions earlier. And so circling back to that, I'm just thinking, like, so somebody's driving and they're like, Yeah, they asked really good questions. How do we leave them with these questions of like, you might not get the answers to where are you? I don't feel your presence, where are you in this hard time? Why aren't you taking down people that I feel like are using your name in the wrong way? How do we leave people with these questions and be like, okay, like I know that God has these promises that He's made for me in the Bible? Or like, how do we leave people with these questions well and not just be like, Yeah, those are big questions we threw out you? Yeah. Good luck.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

That's so good. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's part of the kind of paradox of the Christian faith, like that questions and confidence sit kind of side by side. You know, there's part of me that is so uh at Baila, Dr. Corey talks about like firm center, soft edges, like to be f firm on the central truths of our faith and to leave room on the edges to have questions. And so anyway, I don't know that that answers your question, but I think allowing like certainty and those big questions to live side by side. Like on Sunday we looked at Psalm 13, which starts with, you know, how long, O Lord, will you forget me forever? And at the end it it it finishes with like, but I will sing of your unfailing love. Like that that's kind of the tension of of being a Christian is holding to certainty and confidence, but holding to questions at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Yeah, because I I don't know that we get to a spot where we're not where we're free from them and uh until we see them face to face. And I don't know that we're supposed to be because the things that I'm certain of I don't think about anymore either. Like uh my certain things are just kind of like they leave my I I like that I don't know answers because it makes me continue to want to engage and want to learn more. And so I don't know. Like I I I don't have a here's the answer, but I also don't know that I w that that's the goal either. Um, because even as you were sharing, I was like, oh, I think that the important thing when you're entering into it is like most people aren't coming with a lot like uh I know that this is an old cheesyism, but like that the heart of the problem is usually like a problem of the heart. Like it's not a um, it's usually not just a logic question that they're coming from. It's like uh this bothers me, or I'm unhappy, or I'm sad, or like this hurt, you know, like uh like it's not a oh, where's God? Why does he feel distant? That's not a logic question that you're asking, like a reason question. You're like, I want God to be closer to me, and I feel like he's not, you know, like uh that is a a heart situation much more than it is a if only someone gave me some good reason, then I would feel better about it, you know, and uh and I think that there's a big part where what we can be confident in is like that our call to like love everyone well all the time. And uh and usually what they need is the follow-up questions of like, oh man, what why are you thinking through that? Like, what's going on? That doesn't mean that there's no place for uh the the heady conversation, but gosh, it's it's worth almost nothing when that's all you have, you know. Like, and uh, and so yeah, I don't know. That's uh that that was kind of my thoughts as you said that because yeah, I feel like I sit in question all the time, right? And I also sit in beautiful like love and confidence that God's real and he's crazy in love with humanity because he made us and he sure didn't have to. And if I look at a tree and like and he didn't mess up on that, why would I think that he messed up on me? You know, and like uh I have all these things that I can sit in, and I'm like, oh okay, that's good, you know, and like yeah, but also sometimes I'm like, I don't know what some of this means, and yeah, what does this mean in this context? So I I feel like we had a good conversation. I did too.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Did you have any thoughts on that question, Melinda? It's a great question.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

I no, I just wanted to like leave. I feel like we posed really heavy questions. And if somebody was like, oh yeah, like I where do I go with this really big question that I have?

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Just dropping a bomb on them and being like, anyways, trivia.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Anyway, I think for me, like when pop questions pop up like that, I look at my life as I've come this far, and I look back and I'm like, I asked that question at this point in my life, and look at the ways the Lord provided, too, like looking at actual examples in your life or other lives, which is why I think testimonies are so important to be like the Lord really was there even when I didn't feel him, but looking back, I'm like, wow, like he was so providing and protective and worked in these ways. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

But you got a hair in your mouth?

SPEAKER_00 32:34

It's like on the mic. I didn't need to know that.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

This is a great place to uh end today, guys. Thank you so much for being here. Um, great questions, great time.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Wonder how many times we said the word questions in this. Oh my gosh. Somebody count them up, send in.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Thank you so much for answering and letting us know. Uh feel free to ask questions, send them to podcast at fullfree.com.