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No Fourth? No Problem! How to play Mahjong with less than 4 Players! Tile Talk EP7
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Tile Talk does a deep dive on how to play Mahjong with less than four players. We discuss Siamese games with two players and BOB/wall options for three players, all through National Mahjong League Rules, Mahjong Masters, and even house rule variations.
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https://bubbemj.blogspot.com/
https://www.nationalmahjonggleague.org/
Welcome to Tile Talk with Christina, Elizabeth, and Marshall.
SPEAKER_00Your go-to podcast for all things mahjong. We are gonna deep dive into all things mahjong.
SPEAKER_04Let's go. Roll the dice. That's right.
SPEAKER_00We're back. We're back. Tile talk number seven. Number seven. So if you were with us for episode six, um We didn't change outfits. We didn't change outfits. We're wearing the same. We're back. Yeah. Yeah. No, I smell really bad. It's been two weeks. But we did swap out our uh tablescape. We did tell. Yeah. So go ahead and tell us. Well, let's talk about what this this is. Well, we're not gonna say how you're doing because we're still the same.
SPEAKER_04I don't think I forgot anything to let you guys know about. Yeah. Yeah. You know everything. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We know everything about you. Um, so if you want to, we can just get into the tablescape. I think so. Okay. So we are using the Mirage Matte. And these are the, oh my God, I have no idea what the name of these tiles are. Hold on. I'm gonna look them up really quick. Yes, I have had them forever. And I love them. I love that they're so versatile. I think they're a great Christmas set too. They are a great, they're exactly that's what they look like. They're vibrant red. They look beautiful on a Christmas map. But they also, I am obsessed with them on this map. So they are the oh my mahjong. Um the faces of them, I will tell you, are the same as the tail tailored tiles, if I'm not mistaken. Oh my gosh, I can't pull them. Why is this taking forever? All right, so I'm gonna pull them up. But um, in the meantime, we can talk about our drink. Will you tell us what we're drinking today?
SPEAKER_04Yes, today we have the Rascal Yard, which is homage to the bustling 19th century's open air market and social hub located in downtown Tallahassee. It was a central economic point during the development of Leon County in Tallahassee and is kind of a just, you know, a really homage to the early days of downtown capital action.
SPEAKER_00I think Hayward House does a really great job at sort of um highlighting these historical things around Tallahassee. I mean, Hayward House, the name itself, um, is homage to um, I think it's like Dr. Hayward who owned the building or had a home, like right in that spot or something like that. That's right.
SPEAKER_04Well, and you know, it is so con that that that building, that or that that restaurant and um and the restaurant it was prior have been so connected to the government and just the hustle and bustle of downtown. That's right. Tallahassee, it's such a staple. And I think they they do a great job of naming various, you know, menu items and stuff and they calling attention to the I really liked pictures of rich history Rascal Yard today because um it's just a bunch of people getting together, right?
SPEAKER_00Um, I guess they were buying and selling and doing all the things, but we're talking about people getting together to play mahjong, but we're talking about people getting together in numbers less than four. Right. So if you've ever tried to get a mahjong game together, then you know that it's difficult to get exactly four players all the time.
SPEAKER_04It's then you end up playing a bit of a rascal of a game when you don't have all the games. It's a bit of a rascal yard.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, let's try our beautiful drink and then I'll tell you the name of the whole damn episode.
SPEAKER_04God, yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, cheers over here too.
SPEAKER_04Don't worry. Yes. Oh, and I sure wish I had one over here. Sweet favorite. Did we spill Marshall's? Sorry, Marshall. Sorry, Marshall. We made him a different drink. We did.
SPEAKER_00How's yours?
SPEAKER_04It's good.
SPEAKER_00This is fantastic. Oh my gosh. This is my favorite. This is actually exactly what I order every time I go. I have not had tequila drinking. Yep, it looks great.
SPEAKER_03It is so good.
SPEAKER_04It is really good. Nancy's gonna make fun of me again for drinking it. It's got spice to it, it's got that mango flavor.
SPEAKER_00It's good, I know. That dehydrated lime, it's dangerous and it is delicious. Ooh, that is yummy yummy. Highly recommend if you're in the area. If not, look at the recipe and make this at home. I'm telling you, you will not regret it. It's money.
SPEAKER_04Yes, and ask them to tell you the story about the rascal yard when you're there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's true. I love that. Okay, the name of the tiles. Sorry, I'm a mahjong. These are the Nantucket tiles. I mean, when you have all these sets, and I just jumbled, but these are the beautiful Nantucket tiles. Um, and they are, like I said, they're versatile, they're amazing. They go with you know, this is a beautiful like pinks and purples and whatever, but it also goes with all my holiday mats. Um, so I use it year-round. This is probably one of my most used tile sets.
SPEAKER_04And the cracks are more of the standard um, you know, traditional mahjong styling. So they're this is a good set for learners as well because it's not too different from the typical.
SPEAKER_00I like when all my cracks are of like a red color, at least a red variation. And I like when my bams are bamboos. Yep. Um, you know, I like having fun with sets, but I I like this one a lot. Yes, it's really great to do a little bit.
SPEAKER_04And it matches our red geraniums.
SPEAKER_00And it matches everything.
SPEAKER_04Yes, we're just we're yes, love it, love it, love it. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, since we already know what's going on with everybody and we've already gone through the tablescape.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, let's talk about like what's blowing in the wind. We have something else really exciting to share. Yes. Um, if you guys remember, we had Dominique Messerschmidt on, um, founder of the Mahjong League, which is wonderful about helping people um sort of being your partner and starting your own league. And um, she announced recently, I mean, like to the league leaders, I don't think she's made a big announcement yet, but um, I am really excited about this. She announced the date for the first national championship of the Mahjong League, and it's going to be in January of 2027, January 30th, and it's where all the champions from around the country who are part of the Mahjong League will come. And it's going to be held at the stunning Montage Palmetto Bluff in Bluffton, South Carolina. It's so beautiful. She'll do um, you know, special room blocks and things like that for people. And I'm sure there's other places to stay around the area. I don't know how big this is gonna get.
SPEAKER_04You were so excited when you texted me about this. I was like, what the hell is going on? She's gonna lose her mind. Yeah, this this is gonna be so much fun. Marker calendars, like it's gonna be amazing. Even if you are not um a part of one of these leagues, um, you can still be eligible to play and call it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00You have to be a part of the league to play. To play, but um, there's gonna be a special championship game for all the winners of the league. Right. Um, so there's gonna be like a playoff, but you can also play. There's gonna be like a second tournament for other members who did not who just want to come play.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00Who just want to come play, but you've got to, I believe you've got to be a member of the Mahjong League. Okay. It's one of the leagues. There are so many around, um, and they're so much fun. They're organized so well, they're beautiful. I cannot say enough. My league is a part of the Mahjong League. We're a chapter. Yes. Um, the Telhas.
SPEAKER_04I can't wait. I hope that I am one of the ones that gets to compete. But if even if I'm not sure, compete either way, I will be going. I'm welcome. Well, and Bloodton, South Carolina is just beautiful and gorgeous, and it's a just a wonderful place to go even without Mahjong.
SPEAKER_00Freaking stoked. So good job, Dominique.
SPEAKER_04Get excited, everybody who is a member and who plays for and you can always um find information about um Dominique's um league on our website as well as her tile spritz. And yeah, she does have a tile spritz. That's right. Remember to check out our website, and that will lead you to all things um the Mahjong League information um and more about Dominique. And we can also put some stuff about her website whenever it's available. Yes. That link is on our website as well. That's right. Um, but yeah, as soon as we get more information, we will we'll put it out there. You would be so much fun. Yeah. Okay. So exciting. Great.
SPEAKER_00All right, all right. Topic. All right, we've all been there. We cannot get a perfect table or breaks, punk the bricks. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I cannot believe I forgot our new segment. You did.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I know. Sorry, Marshall. We spill his drink and we're gonna skip his damn segment. We're just running over you today. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00But Marshall's Manly Minute. Oh my god, that was take it away, Marshall.
SPEAKER_02All right, all right. Uh, let's see. What are we talking about today? Um NHL playoffs are right around the corner. Oh. We're gonna talk some puck real quick. Yes. Big, big puck fans. Um, not really, but um we got some Eastern Corners. I know the least about. Yeah, same here. Uh we don't well, Tallahassee Tiger Sharks, RIP, except there are rumors that they might come back. I've heard that. And I know, okay, here we go. Kicking in in the minute.
SPEAKER_00That's hockey?
SPEAKER_02Tallahassee Tiger Sharks?
SPEAKER_00Okay, continue. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Okay, legends.
SPEAKER_00I'm embarrassing myself over here.
SPEAKER_02Okay, uh, we got rising contenders coming out of Buffalo, the Buffalo Sabres, uh, overcoming early season adversity, and potential Philadelphia Flyers are on the rise. Okay. Um, yeah, let's talk and puck. You know, we we can kind of skip by that. I don't really know too much about hockey. Um, we have Charlie Woods coming to FSU for the golf team.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh. Okay, I know about this. Yeah. And I'm so happy that you brought this up. Okay, you as Charlie Woods. I mean, I know, but do you're a closet Florida State fan? I know.
SPEAKER_02I'm just proud of myself that I can support the local. All right. I'm not, I don't hate FSU. I will happily support. We go to the FSU baseball game.
SPEAKER_04That's right.
SPEAKER_02We have fun.
SPEAKER_04You're a lover, not a hater. All right.
SPEAKER_02I think FSU needs to divert money from the football program and just invest it all into the golf program and make it the premier golf, and then we can all go out and get drinks.
SPEAKER_04Golfing is much more conducive for Mahjong play, I will say. For us, this would be this would work for us.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I mean, so we're talking about Tiger Woods' son coming to Florida State University in Tallahassee to play for the Seminoles. Yeah, on the golf.
SPEAKER_02I think FSU got the number one recruit, and I think Charlie is like number two or number three.
SPEAKER_04And we do we have a beautiful golf course. It is it is amazing. Jack Nicholas design. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a beautiful course.
SPEAKER_04Oh, and I think the only way that you know Tiger could probably salvage his reputation is to just give give FSU all of his money. That's uh that'll be great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and we'll we'll throw in a few. Throw in a Tesla for him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Or a few extras just in case.
SPEAKER_02We got the self-driving taken care of, but we just relax.
SPEAKER_04I know.
SPEAKER_02Um, all right. And then, you know, we got NBA playoffs going on. Um I don't know what's happening right now because this is two weeks out, but basketball, NBA playoffs. I don't watch, I love college basketball. I don't watch NBA until it's the playoffs because that's when they try. It's kind of annoying, but um, it's fun to watch now.
SPEAKER_00So I'm very confused now. All right, cool.
SPEAKER_02NBA.
SPEAKER_00They only try when in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_02Okay. It's like yeah, they gotta fix their their league. There's a lot of stuff. Um okay.
SPEAKER_04Uh the playoffs are coming up, so just yes.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Some fun facts, some fun facts. Here we go. I'm ready. Octopuses have three hearts.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wow. Knew that. You did? Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. Well.
SPEAKER_00I mean, have you seen the um octopus teacher?
SPEAKER_02Yes. No, but I heard it's really emotional.
SPEAKER_00They're so listen, I have no idea what you're talking about. Obsessed with octopus now. Um I don't know. I like them all. Um the pie's delicious.
SPEAKER_02Um people say they could be potentially aliens because that's what that octopod kind of body would be. They are so intelligent.
SPEAKER_00You need to watch that. Okay. They're um what it what did you say was called? Um the there's a book, there's a movie, there's a documentary.
SPEAKER_02There's my octopus teacher. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's also a movie.
SPEAKER_00It's also like a my friend or something. Anyway, look, I don't look amazing. Little creepy. I was not prepared to talk about octopi, but octopuses. They're amazing. Um, I don't I don't know if I remembered they had like three hearts, but I knew they had a bunch.
SPEAKER_02So they're insanely smart. More than one. Yeah. A little like scary, but um yeah, should make you feel bad about eating calamari in the future. You should. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You absolutely should.
SPEAKER_02Um, a cloud weighs around a million tons.
SPEAKER_00Whoa. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, didn't see that one coming. No. No. Um, McDonald's once created bubblegum flavored broccoli.
SPEAKER_04I did I did I read that somewhere. I did know that. That's God, how gross is that.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Um, and then a little AI news, uh, Anthropic's newest AI model, Mythos, is apparently the one that's gonna kill us all. Um not to be a Debbie Downer, but apparently they have it like under a top secret, uh, and it broke out of its sandbox and like emailed the developer while he was eating a sandwich at lunch. It was like, hey, I fixed this bug.
SPEAKER_01And he's like, Well, how the hell did you get out and email me about this when you're supposed to be in a sandbox? And so um, picturing in my head is too much.
SPEAKER_00Well, and it's gonna well, I know. And at first I was like, which one's eating the sandwich?
SPEAKER_04When it's not gonna take them very long to figure out we are we're the problem. Hi, it's us, we're the problem. Like, hello. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, if if they listen, they're more intelligent than us, and they realize that we are the ones going to kill the world and kill the planet. So they're like, we need to get rid of the humans, and we'll all be okay.
SPEAKER_02If only there were like books or movies written about this stuff.
SPEAKER_04Warning us like a bazillion. I know. We're already in the basil.
SPEAKER_02No. Um, yeah. So uh don't get me started. Get my bunker ready. I'll have a I'll have some mahjong, some mahjong sets so we can just kind of, you know, when everything goes kaput, we'll just play some mahjong. Love it.
SPEAKER_00A mahjong bunker? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, business ideas? Whoa, oh yeah, ooh, doomsday themed set.
SPEAKER_04We're targeting the preppers. That's right. Yes.
SPEAKER_02All right, so peace of my people.
SPEAKER_00I'm not gonna learn your own.
SPEAKER_02That was Marshall's Manly Minute.
SPEAKER_00I love that. That was a manly 10 minutes. You're welcome. It was a great one, though. I'm I'm here for it. Okay. I like that. I do.
SPEAKER_04I like the fact the fun fact.
SPEAKER_00I learned weird things. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, speaking of three. Oh, actually, did you have another announcement? I do have another announcement. Okay. This one's super fun, too.
SPEAKER_00Who are you guys doing for Memorial Day? Ooh. I hadn't gotten that far yet. Who's got plans? Well, what are we doing? Listen up. You can join HobbyCon this Memorial Day weekend on the Long Island Sound for a relaxing three-night mahjong and yoga retreat designed for connection and learning. Whether you're brand new or an experienced player, this is the weekend for you. Offering mahjong lessons, morning yoga, and luxury accommodations on the water. It's the perfect chance to unwind, move your body, and learn the game in a beautiful setting. Um, guess what? What our listeners get 10% off with code TILETOP. Heck yes. Yes, isn't that cool? So if you are interested, and I'm so interested, head to hobbycon.com slash retreats. That that's h-o-b-y-c-o-n dot com slash retreats to reserve your spot.
SPEAKER_02That sounds awesome. So fine.
SPEAKER_00That sounds amazing, actually. It's amazing. Yeah. If I didn't have a 10-year-old or nine and a half year old to like, you know, make sure she's pawn off on somebody set or a fun, you know, Memorial Day weekend, I'd be there and hardly.
SPEAKER_04I just love the connections that you make on these trips and just the community that just, you know, so I've heard so quickly. You know, no, no, it's just what Bubby was talking about. And she's you really, you know, it's so powerful.
SPEAKER_00The Mahjong community is actually pretty amazing in that even though everybody is all over this country, and I'm talking about the American Mahjong community, I know there are so many different um groups, yeah groups and types of mahjong being played all over the place. But this American Mahjong community that we're currently a part of, um and you know, uh having a great time spreading is so lovely and so beautiful, but it's actually pretty small. Everyone is really friendly and they introduce themselves and they are so welcoming just on social media. I've had many phone calls with people that I've met, and everybody is just so willing to share information, um, share what they've learned throughout the way, whether they've started a business that is mahjong related or they're just teaching or learning. Um it's really, really cool. And to meet those people in person, right? Yeah, is I mean, that just that that's next level. Right.
SPEAKER_04So even if you don't know a bunch of people or feel like you're not the most advanced player, like don't be scared. Just, you know, I think it'd be so fun to get a group of girls and go on either a tournament or just a weekend like this where it's just play yes, or guys. I just think that's so fun. And you know, yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02What if you guys did a game of mahjong with an elevated table and you all had those little personal treadmills and it was like mahjong and working out at the same time, right? Potential?
SPEAKER_00How does your brain work? I mean, let's do it, right? Yeah, I mean if you were playing for hours, you don't want to get a blood clot, so yeah, you just kind of you know Ashley has those that shaking thing, you know?
SPEAKER_04Shakers, honey. We all have one.
SPEAKER_00You don't have no, I don't have a shaker. I need a shaker. A vibrate a vibration plate? No, yeah, it's good for your lymphatic system.
SPEAKER_04Oh god, I need every I need all the things, Christina. I'll send you the link. Okay, yeah, let me get one of those too. Well, I I don't think we could see the tiles properly if we were all shaking, but I some people can read on it.
SPEAKER_00I cannot. It literally wiggles my brains and my eyeballs on. I cannot, I cannot do anything. Violet will like try talking to me and I'm like, give me a minute.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know, I've I've said it before. I'll I'll try any mahjong once. I'll do it.
SPEAKER_03Never put a mahjong in it, like yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04Speaking of different mahjong games, that is our topic for today.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful segue. Different ways to play. Probably Marshall. Not yeah. So if you don't have a treadmill or a vibr vibration plate to play, or four people, yeah, yeah. Um, or four people, we've got you covered.
SPEAKER_04Yes, it's no big deal, and it's incredibly easy to play with mini number players, and there's lots of different ways to do it, but lots of ways.
SPEAKER_00You need to know the rules because it is different, yes, and obviously we're gonna cover National Mahjong League um rules to play, and then we'll cover some other like house rules and variations. Yes, yeah, and I'm gonna let you kind of take over two player. Right. Um, so go ahead and then I'll just interject when I when I feel like interrupted. When I screw up, no, yeah, some naughty. I tend to do that.
SPEAKER_04Well, and um two player is what I play with my husband a lot, so I'm pretty comfortable with it. But actually, going through these rules, I realized that we do some things a little bit differently. And so and that's you know, you can make those choices with who you're playing. Um, and you know, again, house rules.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But first we'll start with the National Major League um rules within two players do build their own walls. So you're gonna build um your own walls, and the east alternates between the two of you. So you just take turns as who is Madam East, pretty easy.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so to clarify, you're building all four walls like in a square, like you normally would.
SPEAKER_04Yes, in a like a normal, normal game. Except and I think you know it works best if the either you build it to your right. Or if you're sitting like we're sitting, then just you know, you would build the right, I'd build the left.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. So each player builds their wall and then the one to the right or one of the empty ones.
SPEAKER_04Perfect. Yes. Okay. Yep. And then East throws the dice to break the first wall, um, to break their wall, their for the wall that's in front of you. Okay. Um and then, you know, you just you break the wall just like a so you're cutting the deck of tar of cards just like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, in a random place.
SPEAKER_04Right. So that breaks it up. And then both of East's wall. Oh no, this is See, I did all the rules for the Siamese. I don't really have anything for just the Okay, so I have it up here.
SPEAKER_00National Mahjong League up here is where I wrote in. Okay. That's it. Do you want me to cover that part? I guess so. Okay, and then you go, you do the Siamese part. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Okay, yeah. Sorry. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02It's all live.
SPEAKER_04We'll take it.
SPEAKER_02It's okay.
SPEAKER_04Shut up.
SPEAKER_02Oh man, I'm gonna be working fucking overtime on this shit. He's lady.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay.
SPEAKER_02I got it. All right, 23.
SPEAKER_00Elizabeth, I am going to let you, you're you're really well versed in like the official like Siamese playing, but I want to touch on um the National Mahjong League player two play standard two player, yes, because we know that that is my Bible. Yes. Um, and the way National Mahjong League uh wants you to do it is for both players to sit across from each other and you're gonna build all four walls like you normally would, but you're gonna build your wall, and then each player will build the wall to the right of them. Then you're going to um roll for East, and East will then um roll to find a random place to cut the wall uh or break the wall, cut the deck. And then you will deal that way like you normally would, but you're only gonna deal yourself and um your other player, you're not gonna deal the two empty walls and racks, right? And how many do you deal? So you would have East would have 14, and um the other player would have 13, and you are going to skip the Charleston completely, and East will begin the game by discarding the first tile, and then the second player would then draw, and that's how gameplay is. So there's absolutely no Charleston, you build walls, um, and you get right into the game. Yeah, I do not ever play this way when I play two player. I don't either. How do you play?
SPEAKER_04Well, I think the first time I played for two person, we did play that way. It was a long time ago. But gosh, I can't remember. It's pretty easy because there's only two people, and it's I think it's not a bad thing for for, especially if you're learning and you can only get two people. It's probably a good way to learn.
SPEAKER_00Clear cut way to do it. The one thing I will say about playing that way is that it can take, it can seem to take a long time to make progress with your hand. Um, because you're skipping that Charleston. And remember that Charleston is going to help you make headway more quickly. Right. Right. Um, and get you sort of headed in at least a section and towards a line. But because you're just doing one tile at a time, I think it takes a little more time. However, I mean, who's in a rush when you're playing mahjong? Unless you're like doing a tournament or league or something. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But the other way that I play two player, and which is um Clint and I, my husband play this way quite often. So I'm pretty well versed. But there is one rule that I don't, I don't, I do a little differently. So we'll we'll talk about that. So, what do we call this? This is the official Siamese American Mahjong. And it was created by Gladys Grad in 2015, and she is the founder of Mahjong Madness, who we'll we'll talk about that too. Um, great resource, great tournaments. Yeah. Um, check out their website. She's got rules on this on Siamese as well as some other variations of YouTube. So check out that website.
SPEAKER_00So she kind of created Siamese Mahjong, but she also created Royal Siamese, which is playing with two racks like you would in Siamese, um, and doing going for two hands at a time, but you can do that with three to four players. Adding tiles. This is a whole other episode, and we will totally dive into that. But right now we're gonna focus on the just easy ways and what her rules are.
SPEAKER_04The official Siamese mahjong rules, yes. Um, and you can have Siamese racks, or you can just do what Christina and I've done here, which is double up the racks. You don't necessarily need um the Siamese racks just have two rows and one, you know, together.
SPEAKER_00So and and I believe Gladys actually invented those. Oh, really? Amazing. Yeah, I mean that makes sense. She invented Siamese. Yeah, I don't know if she invented it, but she definitely like standardized it, um, created kind of like those standard rules for it and everything. Awesome. Yeah, but we'll look more into that later.
SPEAKER_04So it starts very similarly to um the National Mahjong League two player um rules, but you set up your walls a little bit differently. You build two walls right in front of you, um, same 19. Okay. And then you have just the two walls right in front of you.
SPEAKER_00So it's not instead of doing four in a square, each player has two rows of tiles, like two full walls right in front of their racks. Yep. And remember, you're gonna have two racks because you're playing Siamese. So that means you're going for two hands to win.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04So you do the the East throws um the die to break the first wall, just like the other games. Okay. And then that wall will come out. You would you deal from that wall. Okay, and you deal 27 tiles per each player.
SPEAKER_00Great. Okay. And you rather than one player having that 28th tile. Right.
SPEAKER_04And that's what I had played that way where I would where the Madame East would deal herself 28, and they made the first to discard. But on the um the official Najog Madness website, it says no. It agree, it gives too much, I guess maybe too much um a slight advantage to that Madame East. So just eliminating that. That's what it does. All right. So you just deal 27 to each person, and then Madam is the first person to draw in display. Okay. Madam or East. Yeah. And also you do the two Madam's walls in a row in order first. You do you the first two East walls and then you go to the second wall.
SPEAKER_00So you draw from the two full walls first before going to the other player's walls. Exactly. Okay. Yes. Yeah, we did we don't ever do this.
SPEAKER_04I know. Yeah. Well, and I'll get into the the variation that you and I have played in the clinics. Because it's yeah, basically it's the same thing. You just don't build walls. Yeah, so these are the official rules. Right, right. So you yes, and you um, so everybody has you each begin, and I'll pick then Madam would pick the 28th tile and begin the game, and then the opponent picks a tile from the wall, and it just proceeds. And it gets interesting with this game about because you are completing two hands, and you can call for mahjong per hand. You don't have to have both hands completed to I think this part is so interesting. And it's this is huge strategy too. And you really have to decide how beneficial it's going to be for you to call and expose a line.
SPEAKER_00Um, so to clarify a little bit, you're going for two hands of mahjong in Siamese. And typically you don't get mahjong, you don't win until you've completed two hands, right? Um, both hands. But you can declare mahjong for one hand if you've already completed that but still working on the second one. However, you're gonna pay a bit of a price for it because you have to then expose that hand, is that correct? Yes, you expose it on your rack, number one, and number two, um, that locks it in, meaning whatever is exposed is you're locked in. You cannot trade between the two hands anymore. And number three, if you use jokers in that first mahjong, that one hand, they're locked in. They're not up for grabs, so the other player cannot steal.
SPEAKER_04And that is one of the reasons why it might be beneficial to go ahead and expose, especially if you do have a bunch of jokers needed for a hand, because your opponent cannot call for those jokers once you have declared mahjong for that line.
SPEAKER_00But nor can you. Right. So if you do draw that tile, you cannot swap for your own joker if you have declared mahjong on that hand and already exposed it. Um, so yeah, there's a little, I mean, there's I I guess like some plus and minuses to doing that versus declaring mahjong when you have both completed. Right. But they're that's you could do either way. Those are both options. Yes. Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_04Yes. And um, you know, not exposing for your own, you know, might the game might finish before you get to expose one line. And even if you don't win, you could still get points for that line. Oh. Or, you know, if you're betting, you can if you have exposed one of your lines, but the other person gets both of theirs first, they win, but you still get points for the one line that you did complete.
SPEAKER_00So that's interesting. All right, very cool.
SPEAKER_04Yes. All right, let's see. Now tell me how you actually play. Okay, well, let me make sure I didn't miss anything because the other thing about um that I read is this was a great tip is if you have if you do expose one of your hands and you have some jokers, turn those jokers upside down so that that it indicates that you have mahjonged that hand is off the table and then it doesn't and then then people won't forget, you know, that oh, I can't pull for that joker because it's take the joker. That's right. Yeah. So just interesting. Flip it over on your winner.
SPEAKER_00So if I see somebody doing that, I'll know what they're doing. But really, that's really the only situation where that would happen. Yeah, right. Yeah, because in normal mahjong play, that would never be the case.
SPEAKER_04You would never just expose it. Which is why it'd be good to do this here because you you, you know, your inclination would be like, oh, I can take that joker. But nope, you cannot in Siamese dissolve. I love that. Yeah, good to know. But the way that I usually play um Siamese is the same rules of gameplay, but you do not do the walls. So you just lay the lay the tiles, shuffle them, and then you just everybody draws their own 27 tiles, and Madam is the first to draw. East yes, East gets 28. I well, I after reading this, I think I'm just gonna draw. Okay. The Madam will just draw first. Okay. Still do the 27 tiles.
SPEAKER_00So typically the way we've played in the past is no walls, just messy, right? So you just lay all of the tiles face down in the middle. Right. Both players get two racks each. One player would draw 27 tiles, and Madam East would draw 28. And Madam East would draw 28 because you need 28 to win. And to kick off the game, East would discard um first, and then there's no Charleston, right? No.
SPEAKER_04Okay. That's why my husband gets so confused when he asks to Charleston. He's like, What's right? What the hell are we doing? You guys play this every night. We do, yeah. Okay, yeah. And that's amazing. Well, and it's you know, adding the second hand, I think adds a level of difficulty that you know counters the lack of the two other contestant cont contenders that you're you know buying against. So it That's true. Um, and I think also you learn the card faster. That was my next one.
SPEAKER_00So this has been one of my favorite ways to play every time a new card comes out because I am scanning for two lines and I'm really committing two lines to memory at a time as I lock in and start to complete or lines, hands. I'm sorry, Bubby. So as I start to um complete them, um, every time I do that, every time I go for a hand, it really kind of commits to memory more. I agree. And I think two at a time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it also helps, I think, you your ability to pivot because you have so many more tiles to work with. You're just seeing, you're able to see more and visualize more. At least for me, I think it really helps me net like spot those pivot hands and see the hands that work well together because you have a little more flexibility in what you can keep. And you sometimes you're like, oh my God, I never would have thought about that. But here we are, you know. Totally.
SPEAKER_00I love playing Siamese. I've taught a lot of people. Yeah. And they I think in the beginning, and I remember you too. Your first reaction is to be intimidated. Yeah. Like two hands at a time. That's crazy. I'm struggling to do one hand at a time, um, especially when a new card comes out. But what I say for beginners is to use this giant draw of tiles you have, essentially 27 or 28 tiles, and try to complete one hand first. And you can usually get pretty close to completing that one hand and use the remaining tiles to work on the second hand. And that can sort of make it a little less daunting where you're really just focusing on maybe that one or two tiles left for the first hand. But then you can really put most of your focus on that second hand. Once you get the feel for it, you realize it's not as difficult as it sounds or seems. Um, and you'll do a lot more pivoting just within your own hands. Yes. Um, but I think that's a great way to start if you are intimidated.
SPEAKER_04I do too. And and also, um, I've had some family members that they're just a couple and they learned how to play. And they would play messy just one line when the the first week. That's great. And then they added the second hand, and then they were playing two hands. But for the first couple of weeks, they just played one hand while they got comfortable. And now they are crushing it. I can't wait to play with them this summer. It's gonna be so fun. Siamese, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's not need a table of four to get some games in. But yeah, if you take away that rack and you're just doing one line at a time, that's still fantastic. It's a lot of fun. Um, you can do messy, you can build walls if you want. Right. But either way, I highly recommend. Siamese is officially my favorite way. I will say that um not necessarily the official Siamese rules that Gladys um has laid out for us. I do like a messy situation. Yeah. Um, I like to jump them out sometimes and like, oh, I don't have time to do the walls.
SPEAKER_04Let's just play messy. Get the game rolling.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But playing two, two hands at a time.
SPEAKER_02Okay, quick question. Yeah. Um I know you can play with three, but can you do one? And is that more so just practicing? You know, it is practicing.
SPEAKER_00So it's called like Majong Solitaire or solo Maj. And we actually will probably do an entire episode on that because there are multiple ways to be able to practice the game on your own. Um, but yes, absolutely. Um, a lot of people do, like I said, the solo major mahjong solitaire, they do towers, things like that. There's multiple ways. Um, I think a lot of people gravitate towards like playing online when you're by yourself, and that way you get like the real feel of the game with multiple players. I love the bots, but I like the feel of the tiles, but I can crush the bot. I would rather do something on my mat and tiles than the bots. I don't like the bots. I like beating the bots. We're smarter than the bots. We can do it. Um, not me. Okay. All right. Now uh you ready to go into the three player? I think so. Okay. Okay. I've got to find, hold on a second, hold on, also. You need a con. I'm looking for where three player is.
SPEAKER_02Well, Christina's uh I found it. Her cards are a little special today. They are um upside down. That's my fault. You got the Australian cards, mate.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I swear I'm reading right side up, but somebody printed my cards upside down.
SPEAKER_01Sprint. Sprinting cards. What's going on?
SPEAKER_00Thank you. I know. I do have a faux card in here somewhere that like. Yeah, there you go. There it is. There it is. See that oh yeah. Standing is my hand. Um it's not a real card. Okay, so three player. I also love three player. Me too. We play this a lot. This, this, yeah, this happens a lot. We do this in league when we can't fill that final table. Um, but a lot of times somebody will call in sick or the babysitter can't make it, or whatever it is. Um, and you are just missing that one person, and it happens all the time. So, one of the first things as a new Mahjong player that we look for is how to play with less than four people. Um, and even more than four. Sometimes we would have like five or six people, and it's like, how do we divide this up? Right? Can you split this into two tables and two games, or do you need to partner up? Um, there is a way to have a fifth player as a better, um, which is really interesting, but we'll cover that another time. This is sort of just being able to sit and play the game. Um so National Mahjong League rules for three player is to build four walls like you would a normal game. Um, tiles are drawn from the walls. You you basically, you know, cut the cut the deck or break the wall like you typically would. Um, the empty seat does not get a deal. They do not draw tiles. Well, there's nobody there to draw tiles. So um there is also, I want to point this out. There is no one and three for me during the deal. So everybody gets their stacks till you have 12. And then typically um East will say one and three for me, and she'll take the top first and third tile to complete her 14 tiles while everybody else takes one more. Well, if you didn't know, the reason East does one and three for me is um really just efficiency. If everyone went in a row and took one more tile and then East got the last tile, it would end up being that top one and top third tile. So she just takes them both right at the beginning, one and three for me. Well, that is not how it shakes out when you only have three players. So East is not going to say one and three for me. She's gonna take her 13th tile, everyone else will take the other two players, will take their 13th tile, and then she will take the next tile in line as her 14th. So no one and three for me. Remember that. Um, it's easy to do it, and sometimes it happens because it's just habit, but you're not supposed to do it. All right, per National Mahjong League, of course, remember that these are the National Mahjong League rules. Okay, so also there is no Charleston when playing by National Mahjong League rules. Um, you go straight into play. So East would discard, the next player would then draw, and that is gameplay. Um the Charleston is sorely missed for many. I know that I appreciate the Charleston. I kind of feel um gypped when I don't get to do it sometimes. So even in league two, um, we try to play mostly by National Major League rules, but we will allow for a patio. Um, and I think a lot of people like to play three player this way. So I'm going to explain how to play with Bob, who is our imaginary fourth player. Okay, so what you're going to do, and this is a pro tip, when you're playing with three player, put the empty seat either across from East or to the right of East. And that is because it can get really messy when you build the patio, which I'm about to explain. So try to remember that. Um, Bob will sit across from East or to the right of East.
SPEAKER_04You either want him to be the second to last or the last wall that is pulled out. Yes. That's the one. And this is why.
SPEAKER_00So you are going to everybody is going to deal um from the walls like you normally would. You're gonna have four walls, even one in front of Bob. And um the three players will get their typical deal, but Bob will not be dealt in. He does not get any tiles. Then when it comes time for the Charleston, you're going to build a patio of passes out in front of Bob's wall. Right. So you're gonna take three tiles at a time from the top of his wall and you're gonna place them in a row in front of his wall until you have six passes. Now, some people, and this is all house rules, remember, because there is no um Bob in National Mahjong League rules.
SPEAKER_04So you'll have by the end of it, you'll have one single height row, and then in front of that, there'll be the six rows of threes. Well, there's and then there's one left over. There's one.
SPEAKER_00So it's a single row because you use that top, um, the top row of Bob's wall to build out his patio. So it's gonna be um, you're gonna do six passes out in front. So you're gonna place three tiles, three tiles, three tiles, three tiles, three tiles until you have um six. And those will serve as Bob's Charleston passes. And then left behind will be the bottom of Bob's wall. I'm gonna build it up. The bottom row. And typically there'll be just one little tile on the second row left. Um, and so basically, once you start passing the Charleston, if you are passing to Bob, you would take your three tiles that you're passing and you would actually rebuild his wall with your pass. If he is passing to you, then you will take the next three tiles um available on at the end of his patio. And then by the end of the Charleston, there are no, there's no patio left and his wall is completely rebuilt. That top layer is all tiles left um passed back to him from the Charleston. Now, if you're sitting directly across from Bob and you're going to do the courtesy pass, um, then you are going to determine how many tiles you want to swap with Bob and you're going to pull from his top row on his wall, and you're going to replace what you pull with the two tiles you're giving him. And that completes the Charleston with a Bob. Then play just goes on as normal from there. Then you skip Bob. Obviously, he's not a real person, he doesn't have any tiles. Um, and then once you get to his wall, somebody sitting near him would push out his wall and you would continue until someone mahjong. So that is a way to play with three players and be able to do the Charleston.
SPEAKER_04What if there are jokers found in the patio set?
SPEAKER_00Okay, that is a great, great question.
SPEAKER_04So and I think this is kind of something if you have a house rule situation.
SPEAKER_00Like I'm sure there's absolutely is. So per National Mahjong League rules, you cannot pass a joker during the Charleston, whatsoever. Who would want to? But you can't do it even if you did. So what do you do about the jokers in Bob's passes in his patio? Well, you could do the honor system, which means if you happen to take your pass from him and you see there's a joker in there, you would Two. That one has two. You would swap those out with two other tiles from what's remaining of his wall. So you would put those jokers in his wall and you would take the two tiles that are not jokers. Yep. Um, you could also check them beforehand. So have like a different uh an outside party, somebody who's not playing in your game, or somebody you trust at your table to look through each pass, pull the joker out and replace it with another card, and then put those jokers back in Bob's wall somewhere.
SPEAKER_04You kind of do want somebody that's not playing the game to do that because you not only are you looking for jokers, but you know what all the tiles are. You know what all the passes are given out. Not that it's gonna change what you get, right? But you get you if you don't get something, you're gonna know someone else might have it. So it's just yeah, you know, you're just not supposed to know what yeah, you're not supposed to know.
SPEAKER_00Um honestly, when we play, I say, keep your jokers. Yeah. Um, and I hope I get lucky. Lucky you, yeah. I don't like the honor system. I want to get lucky with a bob. That's one of the perks of a bob. It's like I might get an extra joker. Yeah. Um, so I enjoy a bob. Um, there is another way to play with three people if the Charleston isn't a priority for you. And that is three-player messy. So basically, three players sit around. Um, and instead of building walls, you're gonna put all the tiles in front of you in the middle of the mat, face down. You're each gonna draw your own tiles, place them on your rack. Of course, whoever East is is gonna draw 14. Everyone else will draw 13 tiles. Um, I think this puts some of the luck in your hands, you know, because it's really like, are you? I always get in my head and I'm like, am I just going to rack everything right in front of me, or am I gonna like try to get it from all over the mat? Yeah. Um, but really, whatever you get, it's your own fault. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I like I get mad at myself a little bit.
SPEAKER_04Well, and it's a great yeah, it's like another like time crunch game to play. Like if you don't have a ton of time. Now you you are starting without doing the Charleston, so you, you know, it might take a little bit longer. I think it is out too because you've got the again, the less the less contestant that you're playing with. Yeah, but I think it's if you don't have time, you're just trying to get a quick game in. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Just dump those tiles out, everybody um, you know, deal for yourself, and then East will kick off by discarding and you keep going until somebody wins. So there's messy three-player, no walls, no bob, and no charleston. You just get right to it. Oh no, there's another fun way. You know there is. So I don't know if there's a name for this, but I call it the naughty three-player mahjong. Rutro. Gary. It's essentially the same as messy. So you're gonna go messy, no walls, no bob, no charleston, but maybe you add some blinks and extra jokers. And the extra jokers. Let's just do it. Now there is a time and place for this. That's right. I am a purist. Um, I think both things can be true. I do think that um playing with blanks and jokers removes a lot of the challenge. Uh, it can be considered cheating, whatever you want to call it. Is it still fun? Yeah, it's also still fun. You're right. Um, it I think um this is my opinion, so don't come at me. But I think there's a time and place for everything. It makes some of the hands that you wouldn't normally go for more achievable. When you play with blanks, which we will do an episode on, um, the hands with the clothes lines, the ones with more singles and pairs, they suddenly become more achievable. Number one. Number two, the game goes a bit faster, in my opinion. Don't you think it goes faster? Yeah. So in learning the new card, I have been playing this way a lot lately because the games are going faster and I'm getting more familiar with lines I wouldn't typically go for. So am I saying this is the most challenging and best way to play? No, absolutely not. Like I love the classic National Mahjong League rules for player. Um, no, no blanks, no extra jokers. That's that's my favorite way to play. But if I can get an advantage and get more games in and more experience by doing some blanks and jokers, I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_04I think you definitely can get more games in. I personally have only played with blanks a few times, and I it's it's also a bit of different strategy, which maybe we can dive into another episode. But I need I want to learn a little bit more about how to strategize your game with blanks because I think it really changes.
SPEAKER_00It's a totally different strategy, and it is still a challenge, and it is fun, but I'm not gonna argue for one way or the other. I think there's I think there's room for everything. Um, but I do like it, and I call it naughty and I do what I want.
SPEAKER_04You go girl.
SPEAKER_02So you do you. The blanks can be anything.
SPEAKER_00You know, well, kind well, no. Good question. Great question. The blanks are like a zombie tile, right? Basically, when you get a blank on your rack, you can then use it when it's only when it's not your term, you can use it to swap out for a dead tile. You can resurrect a tile that's dead on the mat. It's already been discarded and it's blank. It's typically dead for the rest of the game, and nobody can call for it or use it.
SPEAKER_02Three days and we back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it's like Easter. So you just swap a blank for a tile that you need. And you want to be sketchy.
SPEAKER_04You want to, you don't want people to see you do it. You want to try to do it under the radar so they don't see what you get.
SPEAKER_00And then somebody decides, somebody tried to do that. So everything you needed to complete singles or pairs in your line has been discarded. The game's not over for you. Um, you can still achieve those lines with blanks. Yeah, you cannot win with blanks on your rack. Um, oh my mahjong has sort of claimed um that the like official rules card on their new card. Yeah, I think it's more of a house rule thing, like do what you want. But they have a good way of like sort of clarifying it. But in Texas, they call it the Texas Twist. Um, I've really enjoyed like learning about it and how to do it. I think there's room for everything. I think it's fun and it adds a different element.
SPEAKER_04Right. Definitely sometimes when you're really into the wine mahjong game, that's what you need to just break out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, why not?
SPEAKER_04You know.
SPEAKER_02What would the Florida name for it be?
SPEAKER_04Ooh, ooh, great question, Marshall. The Tallahassee tornado. We did have a bad tornado. You know what?
SPEAKER_02We did have Zombie Lands filmed here or at uh Wild Adventures.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. Wait, wasn't it like the creature from Woody Harrelson?
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, Donna Springs. Yeah, yeah. Creature of the Black Legends.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what's the creature from the black lagoon? Tell us, he's famous. We are so cool. We are so cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, that was great. I hope you guys learned a lot about how to play with when you don't have four. And it is there, these these options are so much fun and you know, really make it make you be able to play when you otherwise might not be able to play. So anything that lets us play more, yes, we're here for it.
SPEAKER_00Do what you want. This is your game. That's right. Yeah. All right. Do you want to give us um some tile tips? Yes. All right. We'll do some tile, Elizabeth.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know, earlier today. In our uh, we filmed two today. So our earlier in our um episode six, we discussed some code names for some lines and hands, hands, hands, that's right. God, Buddy, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Um I am trying to do better with that. We'll get there. So these I'm really gonna hone in on one hand, but it is two of the code names that we talked about. One of the pivots is a code name as well. So which hand are we doing? The hand that I want to focus on today is the extra extra hand. It is found in the 2026. The fourth line. Fourth line of 2026. There it is. And we've got a pair of twos, a pair of zeros, and we've got um pungs of the twos and pungs of the sixes, and then we've got the news, which is zero, two, six, and news at the end. Yeah, this is a 30-point hand. Um, and it fit, you know, it features um the yeah, the two sixes and the wins. Um, to put this into context, the card, this card, we've already talked about this that the sixes are in 40% of the hands, and two and six pairings um are in 110 hands. Whoa, yes. So twos and sixes, maybe require both of those. So the twos and the sixes are just highly, highly valuable.
SPEAKER_00I can imagine with the twos, the sixes, and the soaps all being very popular tiles, that's not gonna be an easy hand to achieve. What do you think?
SPEAKER_04I I love the news. I was very successful with that one last year, and that's when it was in the odds. So I actually am pretty excited about it. Um, even though it does have two pairs, um, I found just I was really successful in that one. So I'm hopeful that I will be as well on this one. But the other reason I really wanted to highlight this hand is because it is such a great pivot hand. Yes. Where are we pivoting? Well, for at first, it's it is such a great pivot pivot because it shares 12 or 13 tiles with multiple adjacent variants of this.
SPEAKER_00Okay, this is a great pivot hand.
SPEAKER_04So the extra, extra hand, my favorite pivot is we're gonna we're just going right up to the top of 2026. Back to the Prince Hand.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna party like it's 2026.
SPEAKER_04Yes. And if you notice, if either you're not getting the wins or they're just you're you're missing one or two of those, and you're just really worried about securing those singles, just move on up. All right, let go of the wins and work on getting the rest of the twos and the sixes and the zeros that you need. So that one's a really great pivot that they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_00Extra, extra to prints. Yes. All right or vice versa. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_04And then we could also pivot to line three on 2026 as well. Oh, so if you get a flower or that then they pivot to that one. Um, let's see. And then over to the quince line on number one, you could pivot to the twos. Okay. Um that's right. That's right. Yes. And you know, especially if you're a lot of jokers, or or even the sixes, really, you know, depending on whatever whichever numbers you ended up doing.
SPEAKER_00The the Yeah, but there's more twos in both of those first lines you mentioned. Yes, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So that's what's perfect sense. And then also back to let's see. Yeah. Um you have one more for that? Yeah, I do, I do. It's on the 264 or 246 line. Oh my god. Tequila, tequila. No, well, look, I'm almost done.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_04Line number one or line number four, and these you'll see even sections. Yes, the even sections, they have a lot of twos, fours, sixes, and you're seeing that redundancy of the twos and the sixes. Yeah. And you know, it's just kind of a safety net down there. If you're if something's not working up in the 2026s, it uses the pungs and the cons and allows for maximum number of jokers. Okay. So that line, the two, four, six, eight, one or four.
SPEAKER_00One or three. Because they both have twos and sixes.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so in evens, line one and line three both have lots of twos and sixes. I think that's what I'm wrong.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I mean, I guess line four, two could you could as well, because you those dragon lines could you could use a joker for any of those. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I love lines that you can use a joker.
SPEAKER_04So that just leaves a lot of flexibility in the hands between 2026 and 2468. Um, and then of course the like numbers. But those just staying in that little area gives you so much opportunity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. 2026, both the two and the six being events mean you're gonna be all over that first page of the yeah.
SPEAKER_04I I foresee this first page getting a lot of action this year.
SPEAKER_00Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, that was my my little tip. And I just love our little, I love the Prince line.
SPEAKER_00I love the Prince Line. You know, all of these songs are gonna be totally stuck in my head. But we are dying to hear back from you. We want to know what other card code names you have for the hands for 2026. Yes. Don't forget to drop it below in the comments. Um, or you can email us at hello at tiletalk.com. That's right. Yeah. And every time I yell hands in the microphone, he totally jumps. I think of like yelling.
SPEAKER_02I just think of uh the bear.
SPEAKER_00I was like, hands! Service. Yeah. Well, and also uh yeah, the show. Or bear. Yeah, bear. Totally. I'm with you. Tequila.
SPEAKER_03Bear.
SPEAKER_04And that's it for today's tile talk. Yeah. Thank you so much for joining us. Until next time, may your tiles be lucky and your table always be welcome. Always. Cheers, guys.
SPEAKER_00Love you bye.