How Jiayang Liu Is Building a Filmmaking Career Beyond Hollywood

Meet Jiayang Liu, filmmaker, YouTube creator, and founder of Gold Hour Studios, where he's on a mission to help aspiring filmmakers build meaningful careers while pursuing his own dream of directing feature films.

Fresh out of USC's School of Cinematic Arts, Jiayang has built more than a filmmaking career. Through his YouTube channel, podcast, production company, and educational content, he's helping the next generation of filmmakers develop both the creative and entrepreneurial skills needed to thrive in today's industry. 

In this episode, Jiayang shares how his love for storytelling began with toy animals and iMovie before evolving into a career centered around filmmaking, education, and community. He explains why filmmaking is ultimately about helping people feel seen and less alone, and why that mission now shapes everything he creates through Gold Hour Studios. 

We also explore why social media has transformed filmmaking forever. Jiayang explains why every aspiring filmmaker should consider building a presence on YouTube, not just to showcase their work but to attract opportunities, develop storytelling skills, and build genuine relationships within the industry. Rather than chasing networking events, he believes the best opportunities come when your work speaks for itself. 

The conversation also covers creativity, storytelling, and finding your own artistic voice. Jiayang shares how his ideas come from everyday life, conversations with strangers, personal experiences, and staying curious about the world. Instead of copying successful filmmakers, he encourages creators to embrace their own perspective because the most personal stories often become the most universal. 

We also discuss entrepreneurship, commercial filmmaking, rejection, perfectionism, and the reality of building a creative career. Jiayang explains why filmmakers need to think like entrepreneurs, why systems matter more than motivation, and how embracing rejection has helped him continue moving forward despite the uncertainty that comes with creative work. 

Finally, Jiayang shares the vision behind Gold Hour Studios and why he hopes every film he creates leaves people feeling less alone. It's a conversation about purpose, creativity, and building a career that's driven by impact rather than external validation.

Whether you're an aspiring filmmaker, YouTube creator, film student, or creative entrepreneur, this episode offers practical advice on storytelling, building an audience, finding your creative voice, and creating work that truly connects with people.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Today we're joined by Jay Young, filmmaker, USC graduate, and founder of Gold Hour. We talked about filmmaking, finding your voice, building a YouTube channel, and why personal stories are what people remember. Let's get into it. Thank you so much for joining us today and for people discovering your work for the first time. Who are you? What are you up to today?

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Yeah, hey guys. Um, I'm Jai Young. I'm currently a fresh out of USU grad grad graduate, I guess, and uh currently produce uh pursuing the the Hollywood dream of being a film director and also doing like commercial uh work as well as producing and like also mentoring students to become like full-time filmmakers um on my YouTube channel and my own podcast as well, uh First Act Break. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Awesome. And looking back at your journey, what what actually made you first fall in love with filmmaking?

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Yeah, so fun story. When I was a kid, I was always super into animals, like zoology and all that, and that's what I wanted to pursue actually. I had like a ton of pets. I built like a whole model zoo out of just like toy animals and everything. And then I started realizing what I most was interested in was the stories of these animals and you know the secret lives of what they were, you know, maybe thinking and doing. And then my mind was constantly making up these stories. And then that year, I think it was back in 2015, 2016, Secret Life of Pets came out, and I was like, Oh my god, like literally all these ideas in my head could be made into something that the whole world can see. And from that point on, I was asking my mom, I was like, yo, I want to do this movie thing, I have all these ideas, and she's like, Well, I have this app on my phone, maybe that could help, and it was iMovie. So I started like playing around with it, like recording everything I was like seeing, you know, and then editing it through iMovie, and I made like my first spot motion out of my like toy animals, and that was kind of how it all started, and I just kept pursuing it until uh almost 10 years later today.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

And you actually recently graduated from USC. What I want to know is, is there anything that surprised you about transitioning from film school to the professional world and workspace?

SPEAKER_00 2:17

Yeah, that's a great question. Um, I think what surprised me was how much, you know, because you're you're stressed so much after graduating, you're like, oh my god, I need to find a job, oh my god, I need to figure this whole life thing out. But like actually, once you graduate, you you realize you have a lot more time and it's not that stressful. You don't have to make it feel so stressful because you know, the everyone's like confused, everyone's trying to figure it out still. So I think it's um I realized that it was okay to take more of my time to really reflect on you know why I want to do filmmaking and um you know take more time to like understand myself uh after. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

One thing that I admire about what you're doing is that you're not just making films now, but you've built a YouTube channel, a production company, a podcast. So why was it important to build an ecosystem instead of relying on one thing for you?

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Yeah, um, I think for me, like my whole goal with making movies is I really want people to feel seen and feel less alone. Like movies, like I remember when I first moved to Wyoming, um, I didn't really have any friends. I was actually constantly moving uh throughout my childhood. And I really, you know, in the beginning stages, I wouldn't I wouldn't have a lot of friends, and movies were that escape for me to feel like I had a family, a community, and you know, that's what I want to do with my films, but also I want, you know, how much more impact can you make on this world when you can empower other people to make films like that too, or you can give people the tools to pursue, you know, a purpose that they've always wanted to do as a kid, you know. And I think, you know, after having this passion for so long and realizing like, you know, so much doubt and you know, things that it might not work out, you know, to be a filmmaker seems risky, right? At least that's what we're all told. But what if I can change that perspective and everybody and realize and make people realize that there is that path to being a filmmaker today and that they can build a career doing what they love. And I think that's why I've been doing what I'm doing, just like really trying to mentor as many people as I could to chasten that dream.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

And also, I think that's the secret to social media, too, because social media made filmmaking much more accessible than it used to be. Now anyone living anywhere in the world can actually buy a camera and create a project. So, what's your take on social media? Do you think any aspiring filmmaker should start a YouTube channel? Do you think there are other routes that they should, you know, pursue before that?

SPEAKER_00 5:00

I've been making YouTube videos longer than I've been making movies, and I absolutely realize how valuable you know this stage of YouTube is. You know, this is where anyone can share their work, and anyone can get their like voice heard by anyone in the world. And yeah, absolutely. I think this is an incredible opportunity to like share your work. Like, obviously, I think the the value of festivals are still there. There's so many different paths, but I think it does seem like all the trends are moving towards social media, and it does not hurt to like try it out. I mean, I I totally understand like it could be daunting in the beginning, like putting your face and your voice out there, but you know, I think if you want to be a filmmaker, the point is to share your work, right? And there's no better place, I think, than social media in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

And other than actually sharing your work on social media, are there any other aspects that you've noticed that helped you when you started posting your content online? For example, let's say networking or you know, new opportunities that you haven't fought before, or new techniques that you were like, hey, I'm finding my style through my YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Yeah, of course. I mean, I mean, I got this interview with you probably through my YouTube channel, right? So I think there's plenty of opportunities um, you know, from your YouTube channel because a lot of times like we have this idea like we have to network, we have to meet as many people as possible. But I think it's better when the people you want to network with come to you instead, because then you know you have something of value, and that's how you can you know amplify that through your own platform, um, on which is on social media, right? And I think being also on YouTube has taught me like a lot about storytelling in a lot of ways. Like, how do you hook an audience? How do you get people to keep watching all the way through, and like ways to engineer that and like structure a thing, which is like movies basically? Like, there's a reason why I think so many like you know, big Hollywood people now are coming starting to come from the social media side. Um, it's because you know, people are realizing that there's that similarity, and people are translating this quick-pacedness of social media into filmmaking.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Yeah. And is there anything that you've noticed that a lot of young filmmakers have like is my question is is there any misconception that you've noticed that young filmmakers have about making it in the industry that now that you're actually creating your own projects, you've noticed that your perspective shifted a little bit?

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Of course, yeah. I think this idea of making it keeps changing for me, and I think it's important to keep evaluating at every stage of someone's career, like what does that mean to you? Um, because like making it like it's such a vague term, isn't it like money success? And I think it's so important to dig deeper into like truly why you want you're doing what you're doing, and like like you know, why you want what you want and you know this whole career thing, because without that, you're kind of just chasing really nothing. Um so yeah, I think for me is like I realize that deeper introspection matters more than figuring out the craft and figuring out the um the project. I think it's just at the end of the day, it's you and yourself, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:24

So if anyone comes up to you and they're like, I want to do what you're doing, I want to get into film school, I want to start making films, what do you think is the first thing that they should focus and what is the first advice that you would give them?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yeah, I think well, it honestly depends a lot on like their age and their background, but it I recommend them checking out my how to get into film school videos. Um that's a good start, but um I think besides that is really seeing like thinking about what perspective they can bring to the stories they tell, because that's what separates film directors is that unique perspective or take on life or just way of thinking how life should be lived that is communicated through your films. And a lot of times people try to do films that have done been done so many times because they see other people doing it, but they like neglect their unique background as people in this world because everyone, you know, having lived in so many places, I realize everyone has such a unique perspective on the world, and you know, they should just really voice that.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

What do you think makes a story stay with people after they've watched it? And I'm not only talking about um narrative films, but also documentaries, commercial work, everything.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

I think movies stay with people that are personal to the maker themselves. Um because I think the like the great filmmakers say, right, like the most personal is the most universal. Because as you're being honest with the stories you're telling, um people can feel that, and what stays with people is not just you know, obviously the craft matters a lot, the technical stuff, but at the end of the day is like what are you trying to say? And I think a lot of the audience feel the same way a lot of times about the films they watch, and I think just grabbing on to the um yeah, the truth.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

And what is that process like for you specifically? Like, where does your ideas come from? And how did you find your style if you do have a style already or if you're open to you know evolving and learning more, which I think we all are. But what is your uh artistic um journey like usually?

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Yeah, that's I love this question because that was exactly what I was wondering when I was a freshman at film school. I was constantly like, where is everyone getting these ideas from? And I think after graduating and having spent more time figuring this out, um to me, like these ideas come from just everyday life, right? Um, I have like a journal on my phone, like a notes app, and I write down everything that's interesting that happens to me through daily life, um, through the things I encounter. And just I think being curious is so important. Like a lot of times, like there's just so many weird things all around us, just unexplainable things. And to be curious is to like dig deeper into these things, like you know, why are the traffic lights the way there? I don't know, like something like Steve, but like something like mundane, but also like to dig deeper into these things, and also to look into history books and to really talk to people um from all different backgrounds, your your Uber driver, people you randomly meet in public. It's like everyone has such a rich story, but also really be don't be afraid to tell your own story, um, because at the end of the day, that's like the most like pure story that you can tell is the one from deep within. Because everyone has dealt with stuff in their life, and it's uh honestly healing in a lot of ways to be able to share those stories that are most personal.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

And do you think to get to that point where you are in that perspective, do you think it's something instinctive or do you think it's something that can be taught eventually?

SPEAKER_00 12:20

I think there's a little bit of instinctiveness, but most of it is can be improved over time. Like it all comes from like a desire. Like, if as long as you want to do what you want to do, you can figure out a way to get to it. Like if you want to keep chasing these ideas and open up yourself and be introspective, like that's what you're just gonna do, you know, and I think it all comes from that.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Is there any storytelling mistake that you used to do in the past that now you look back and you kind of like regret it and learned from it?

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Yeah, I think in the past I like you know, in high school and middle school, I would always chase like the exciting stuff, like, oh, people are gonna find this cool, like we have guns and people are running around, or I would just like straight up rip off like other movies like John Wick, and I'm like, yo, like this is like everyone loves John Wick, so they're gonna love what I'm making. And then I started realizing people are there to watch what you have to say and not what other people have to say. And I think it's so important just to make movies that is like catered to yourself, but also somewhat keeping the audience in mind and not completely neglecting your audience, unless like your goal is to make something for yourself. But most of the time, I think as artists and storytellers, we are kind of in service to a lot of like to our audience. So I think it's probably not a good thing to keep always like doing it just for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

One thing that I want to get into is that a lot of filmmakers they think that they should not be a content creator online that this could actually hurt them. But we're actually seeing that this open up opens up doors and it's actually helping a lot of young filmmakers to actually find their way in the industry. And is there any difference that you've noticed when creating YouTube videos from directing short films? What is what are the main differences and what are one thing that I'm trying to understand is is there anything that you do, let's say when you're creating a YouTube video, that if you had done it directing a short film, you would have hurt your content?

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Yeah, I mean, short film directing just takes so long. Like one short takes me like a year or two, and then it probably takes me a third year until I can actually release it because it goes through festivals. And that's just like I mean, how much time and effort that takes. Obviously, YouTube takes a lot of effort too, but you can get a lot more audiences, a lot more eyeballs on your stuff way faster, and the turnaround time is way faster as well. Like you can shoot something for a day, edit it for a day, and boom, people are seeing it the third day, not the third year, right? So I think um a lot of people like potentially see like social media as something like lower than filmmaking, which like I think they're different purposes in a lot of ways, and like you said, yeah, it has been opening a lot of doors for filmmakers because at the that's like what matters is the audience, right? Like, if you have the audience, the money just follows the success, blah blah well, like just follows automatically. So I think all in all, like social media is just a wonderful thing for that.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

One thing that I want to know more is about Gold Hour. Can you tell me a bit more about what Gold Hour is and the vision that you have with it and understand a bit more about how the platform works?

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Yes. Um, Gold Hour is essentially my production company slash uh Academy, Film Academy combined into one, and it focuses on you know producing the narrative stuff, but also like um working with commercials and brands as well as mentoring a new generation of filmmakers who eventually will end up you know being a part of Gold Hour in the future. And this is just something uh I'm building with a few of my USC friends, and we're trying to make this like a whole like it it's more than just like one company. I think it's changing the idea like filmmaking uh can be for everyone and it should be pursued if that's what you love to do. And I think um, you know, gold hour, like my l my name has the word like young in it, and it means sun in Chinese, actually. And I think the sun has always been a huge part of my life, like you know, obviously, like you know, it gives us warmth and light and but also like it's a it's a metaphor in the naming because I think for me I've always approached life with a lot of optimism, I guess, and just seeing like the good and everything, and like trying to find ways of having human connection has been so important to me. Like increasingly I've noticed like more and more people have become more isolated, right? And I think um like even one day of not being with having a friend there or like being with a family member, like it it's it takes a lot of toll, I feel like, for me personally, and I'm sure for millions of people out there as well, like the loneliness is is real, and I want to build something that um I guess can address that in a ways and make content that would make people feel like less alone, you know, and uh that's essentially gold hour is. And recently we're trying to put together a film festival in October at USC, and it's basically just celebrate films that make people feel that way, to make people feel you know less alone and films focused on human connection, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

And it's interesting that you mentioned that because social media in general is about you know, it's it is making people more lonely, and at the same time, people are craving connection. So whenever there's a new creator talking to me, we always end up talking about how to make themselves uh you know um approachable in social media and relatable and how they can actually open doors to other people with uh you know doing what they're doing. So um one thing that I want to understand more from you about is that because like you've met a lot of filmmakers, a lot of creatives. Is there anything that you've noticed that sets people that give up apart from those that are actually making it now?

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Yeah, I think uh it's important to treat your audience like the way you would treat like your closest friends or people that you love. Um, and I think for me, I've always kind of went into YouTube with the idea of like I just want to build like a genuine connection with people that watch rather than caring about views or like ads or whatever. And I it's been like that since I was a kid until like now, and it's been more than 10 years of that. And it's genuinely like something I love to do, and I have found like a system that makes making videos work because obviously, like a huge reason why people stop making videos is they realize how much time it's taking, how much like work, and it's like they're unable to do it, and they're like it's not worth doing. But once you find like a system that works, like oh, maybe once a week, once every two weeks, um, I film maybe five videos on a weekend, and then I edit them throughout the month, you know, just like finding ways to build a system of making content that fits your schedule, whatever the person might do, um, I think is so important. And that's something that has able like helped me carry through all this time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

And also one thing that I'm curious about to know your perspective is uh when you're creating, let's say, a commercial, uh, how do you balance creative fulfillment with commercial work?

SPEAKER_00 19:57

Yeah, I I think when commercials, to be honest, is servicing the brand that you're advertising in a lot of ways, right? And you know, obviously like the spec commercials could be more like creative, like certain commercials could be more creative and for yourself, but like most of the time it's to service the brand that's paying you or the brand that's hiring you, and I think it's so important as a director to like uh make the content tailored towards the goal of the client. And I think like obviously artistic like vision matters, but like I think the whatever the client wants matters more than anything because you at the end of the day are trying to sell their product or highlight their brand in some way, and how creative you get, I think it's up to the the director themselves. Yeah, but I think definitely focus on the goal of the client.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

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SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yeah, I think absolutely, because you know, every film technically is starting a new business in a lot of ways. And you know, you're building your team, right? Like that's like a corporation, you're finding money, you're putting together a plan, MVP, all that. Like, that's exactly what like entrepreneurs do in a lot of ways. And also today is like to make it right. It's like i it's technically it's kind of hard, right? And without that spirit of entrepreneurship, like it's you know, uh obviously you can build a stable career out of that and you can work at a production company or do something like more casual, but like if you really want to get to like I think the higher the highest levels of like filmmaking and like feature films and all these things, it takes a lot of like spirit and passion, just like what it takes, like entrepreneurship. Um, so yeah, I think absolutely they gotta think like entrepreneurs.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

And yeah, talking about entrepreneurship, I want to know, is there any challenge that you have noticed with gold hours so far? What has been the hardest part for you?

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Hardest part is I I think finding some a unique perspective of like why is my production company different than the hundreds of thousands of other ones, right? And I think it's like finding what makes us unique and what really are we trying, like what problem are we really trying to solve? And it's an ongoing thing that like we're constantly thinking about and trying to like shift into new directions. I mean that gold hour has changed names like five, six times already, and it it is something that we are constantly evaluating like our unique perspectives as uh of a company, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

How do you deal with self-doubt or rejection?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

I think it's just seeing it in a new perspective, which is like approach it like a good thing, you know, because a lot of times um when we are being rejected from something, right? It's at the end of the day, it's something that's gonna push us to a new better Endeavor, endeavor after. Um, you know, anyone who submitted to film festivals, like you get rejected from almost all of them, no matter how like I feel like no matter how good you are, and you're constantly rejected from you know different projects, you're pitching yourself to people, and you just gotta realize like um yeah, it it's at the end of the day, it it's a universe way of telling you like this isn't right for you. I think it's uh to guide you down a path that makes more sense in a lot of ways, and just seeing it from uh a perspective that you're growing, you know, like if you're playing in a safe, like you're you're not being rejected, that means you're doing something wrong, I think, because that means you're not putting yourself out there, you're not doing stuff that is challenging. And I think as filmmakers or entrepreneurs, like you have to constantly like challenge yourself and do what's the hard thing in a lot of ways. And um, yeah, I think it's uh it's good to deal like to have to deal with self-doubt and rejection and just like seeing those as you're growing, you know. Um, and but what are you saying, like self-doubt and rejections, like that is such a real thing in being a creative and an entrepreneur, you're constantly having to deal with that. And I think a lot of people like like me included, like you make a film and you're really never happy at the end of the day with the product. You're like you watch it back, you're like, oh my god, like I could have done so many things better. But you have to remember like storytelling is basically a capsule of your perspective at the time of making the story, and you're gonna constantly grow your perspective and your craft. So just embrace the next project and like keep pushing forward. And I think that's what ties back to why I said, you know, finding the reason why you're doing this is so important because then you know that why that purpose matters so much more than the doubt itself. Um, because you're just just trying to figure it out. And I think for me, the mentality I always have is like just to jump right in and just like figure it out as you go along the way, you know. You don't you I I don't think it's necessarily helpful to have like such a perfect plan and then going into it. I think you just gotta just try it out and figure it out, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Yeah, one thing that I'm I'm trying to understand, and you know, in my personal work and also whenever I see other creators is how do you balance perfectionism with actually finishing projects?

SPEAKER_00 26:21

I think, yeah, for me, I I I'm kind of a perfectionist in a lot of ways. You know, I'm like, oh my god, I want to tweak this angle slightly, I want to like the colors a little off, and you're constantly doing this over and over. And that's I guess a huge reason why I think short films take so long is because like you're like you know, it takes like what six days to shoot it, but then it takes like a year for post-production. And so for me, um, like I made a film called Teenhood, right? And it was a film about a guy who is like a cowboy, and then he finds out he's like he got his ex pregnant, and he's like a kid still, like he's like a teenager. Um, and that film was personal, and I think it, you know, when it's so personal, you want it to be perfect when you want to present it the most perfect way as well. But at the end of the day, it's like you're trying to get this out there to audiences. I've seen so many of my friends' films, they spend so much time and money and energy into it, and just never gets finished. And I'm like, well, that doesn't like what's the point of not finishing it, right? So I am always like trying to you know compromise a little bit, and I think that's what I love about social media is because you don't have to get it to be perfect for social media because that's what people love. It's that imperfection that you know that 90 I think it's you get it 90% good, and then I think it's good. Um, and I like obviously you can add more b-roll, you can add all these like uh sound effects, transitions, but you know, like think about that goal. Like, what is the reason you're making this, right? You want people to see it, and if you spend like you know, half a year on a YouTube video, um, you're basically killing a lot of opportunities to make other videos as well. Um, obviously, I'm talking about like the videos that are easier to make, like not like the some some people make these crazy elaborate music uh YouTube videos, so it's different. But yeah, I think definitely just um remember why you're doing it and just like try to finish it as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Out of all the creators you've known so far, is there anyone that you would like to shadow their work and for a day, for example, and understand a bit more how they got where they are? Anyone that actually inspired you to do what you're doing right now, the way that you're doing it right now?

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Yeah, uh there's plenty of people that have inspired me and been a great role model. I think uh love to shadow Christopher Nolan, you know, like as all of the films.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

We all do, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Um or maybe some of the the YouTube people, like um, I don't know. I've been a big fan of like uh Ali Abdal or like Steven Barlet or something, the guy that diary of a CEO. Like some of these are more entrepreneurial like YouTubers, um, are quite fascinating because I feel like they've have these systems built that are just like crazy efficient and it's like cranking out videos. And I don't know. I think it'd be really fun to see how they they set up their things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

One thing that I want to know is what advice would you give someone who can't afford film school but they want to become a filmmaker.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Yeah, I've met plenty of incredible filmmakers who didn't go to film school, and I think it is just uh okay, there's I think different scenarios, right? There's people who can't afford film school, and there's also people who are like struggling in their everyday life, right? And I think for the people who are like genuinely like struggling to like get by, they should focus on something to have a stable life, um rather than you know, immediately jumping into film. Because film at the end of the day is risky, but you have to kind of have a stable platform to take these risks. Um, but if if you have like a stable life and you just the film school is a little too much, then I think you should focus on just learning the craft as much as possible and like meeting people that are ahead in you know the career. Um, because you you learn so fast by just doing and experiencing and just being surrounded by that. Um it helps them move to a bigger city, I think. Um, you know, coming from Wyoming to LA has been so transformative, just seeing like how much people and how much passionate like artists are out here, it genuinely like uplifts me as a creative. And yeah, I think it's um it's huge to to surround yourself constantly with the most creative people and just keep uh learning.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

And I do have a final question for you, which is what do you hope people say about your work, let's say in 10 years from now?

SPEAKER_00 31:20

Yeah, I think a lot of what I said about Gold Hour too is just like I want people to say, oh my god, his films made me feel less alone, his films made me feel seen by others, or his films made me fall in love with life. Um I think these are all things I wish you know my films can convey and bring to an audience.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

Honestly, Jayan, thank you so much for joining me today. And if there's anything you'd like to promote, feel free to do so right now, and I'll leave the links in the description.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Yeah, uh feel free to check out my YouTube channel, it's full of just filmmaking and creative advice, as well as the podcast where we figure out what it takes to break into Hollywood. So thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

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