You + Me= Us

Is It OK For A Man To Be Sensitive In A Relationship??

Evan & Sharon Curry Season 1 Episode 7

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In Episode 7 of You+Me = US, Evan and Sharon dive into a thought-provoking and sometimes controversial conversation about emotional vulnerability in relationships. The episode opens with the question: Is it truly acceptable for a man to be sensitive, or does society still expect him to be tough and emotionally reserved? They explore how sensitivity can strengthen communication, deepen connection, and build trust—while also addressing the stigma some men face when expressing their feelings.
The conversation then shifts to relationship double standards, specifically the different ways society views age-gap relationships. Evan and Sharon unpack why older men dating younger women is often normalized—or even celebrated—while older women dating younger men can be judged or criticized. They challenge listeners to think about where these biases come from and whether they still hold value in modern dating culture.
With honest perspectives, real-life examples, and a few laughs along the way, this episode encourages listeners to rethink traditional roles, question societal norms, and define what works best in their own relationships.

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All that applause is for me. Yeah, it sure is. So flattered.

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You want that too? That's the party starter right there.

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All that applause is for me. Well, welcome back. Uh to you plus me. Equals us. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to week number seven. That still blows my mind that we've done seven episodes, and the feedback that we've gotten from you all has been amazing. How do you feel on week number seven?

SPEAKER_06

I feel good. You know, this is what I do. So, you know, okay. This is another day at the office for me. So humble. I just punched in the work, doing my job, making people happy. You know. But the feedback is awesome though. We get tons and tons of comments and everything. And not just included on here, but just period. Yeah. When we see people that watch it and say, oh man, I love your show. We love what you're doing, keep doing it. And then when we hit these topics and subjects that you people always hear us talk about and what you give us in the comments, they always say, I was thinking that. I should have said that. You know what? I'm gonna go home and do that. So I guess it really helped. But once again, disclaimer.

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We are not professionals at all. Just two people, as I always say, keeping it real.

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Eating some humble pie.

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Yes, and we got 17 games, 17 years in a game. 17 games.

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We got an NFL season.

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So, in my opinion, I think we know what we're talking about. Uh, you know, just just a little bit, just a little bit. Just a smidgen. Just a little bit.

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So uh Hold on, we can't do that yet. We gotta tell the people. Tell the people what you are now watching this live on YouTube, so you might as well go ahead and subscribe to that YouTube channel, like that YouTube channel, and also share that YouTube channel. So subscribe first, like second, share third, or subscribe first, share second, like third. Either way, just hit the subscribe first. We would really appreciate that. Also, on Facebook, go to that you plus me equals us Facebook page. Like I said, we're on my Facebook page now, but eventually we will transition into that page. So go ahead and follow that page, like that page, and share that as well with everybody else so they can be on board, so we're not leaving nobody behind.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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I just had to get that part out.

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I think that's the most important part to get out.

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It is one more thing, too. What is when you want to go and you want to listen to it, download it on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. That's it. I promise we do.

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Okay. I paid him to say all that too, by the way. Message. Um, so usually how we start the show is we we come up with two songs that we like, yeah, or that I should say that I like.

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Sounds better.

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So let's drop that first one. This one right here has been my jam. And uh, I'm gonna give a little little uh hint to it. Cleveland zone. We're gonna just say that.

SPEAKER_06

Cleveland zone, and a one, and a two, and a three. Uncle G Roll.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. I mean, I mean you're a man, you're not gonna say that, but he was.

SPEAKER_06

No, I just haven't heard a lot of women say that. But hey, whatever. Baby.

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Bring this kind of music back.

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Too late.

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Just didn't know.

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Easy.

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It just singing. Easy. Time and time again. Oh, Casanova. This is my jam.

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So I got a fun fact about that song. Do you actually know what he's saying?

SPEAKER_01

Um, something about Casanova.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but before that.

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Me and Romeo ain't never been friends. No, no, that's basically Is he trying to take somebody's girl?

SPEAKER_06

No, I don't think so. But I'm talking about before that. Do you know what he's saying? I literally just found that out last year what he's saying.

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No. You had to give me the part. Like, what are you what part are you talking about?

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Before he said Casanova.

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No.

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I used to think he was saying, I'm not your Casanova. But he's not even saying that.

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What is he saying?

SPEAKER_06

I'm no macho Casanova. Oh. Never knew that until last year. Oh. Yeah. I felt like a dummy because all these years I heard it, I said, I am not your Casanova. But he said, I ain't Macho Casanova.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

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Fun fact about that song. I don't know if y'all knew that, but.

SPEAKER_01

Regardless, still the jam. Did y'all actually hear that song? I don't did it come through there. Yeah. Oh, okay. I know I was jamming to it. It was there. Uh Elkinim Boots is on the shelf.

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Do you know why they're on the shelf? Because they so little. They can fit up there. I wish I would put some of my shoes on the shelf. They're on the shelf.

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Ain't no shelf big enough for them 13s. Okay. Anyway, on to the next jam.

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Nah.

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We will get a disc like the story behind this after.

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Oh, you're talking about recently. Yes. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. Yes. Because that's what I was about to bring up.

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Yes.

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And a one. And a two. And a two. Mm-hmm.

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Special things for you. I mean what you really need.

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But a ba-by.

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Someone is gonna read it for you. So we might be for you.

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We got a subscriber, she said, and didn't be somebody unclean.

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Back to the day, bro. That guy. It was that guy. It was that guy.

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You won't be with you.

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Don't need a little bit of you, buddy.

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Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_06

Hey. Ari, you be killing me with the little dancing lady dress.

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She knows it's the whole vibe. Yeah, but these songs, I'm telling you, they're just timeless. They're timeless.

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Yeah.

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So what did you what did you want to say about Ralph?

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Speaking of timeless, Uncle Ralph was at the new edition Boys the Man Tony Braxton concert, looking like Uncle Ralph on St. Clair that smoked blacks with his fedora on. Nothing wrong with people from St. Clair. He had a fishnet shirt on, but still had the top three buttons unbuttoned. So what's the point of Fishnet?

SPEAKER_01

Sound like a hater.

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No, I'm just saying if you're fishnet on and you got three buttons unbuttoned and you got the taco sidewalk meat. Come on. Sidewalk meat. Yeah, you know, them walking tacos. He he got a sidewalking taco meat. Goodness, okay. Yeah. Okay.

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Okay, because I'm picturing that in my head.

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Because he had it. He had it on.

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Well, that I chose that song for a reason.

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What that is.

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One of the reasons was um I came across something that we're gonna show you guys here in a minute. Um, and that song plays into it. Um and the question, well, how about we play the clip first? We play the clip first.

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And a one, and a two, and a three.

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How do you deal with a man that is more sensitive than you?

SPEAKER_00

It gets strange for me in conversations like these when we talk about one party being more sensitive or more soft, and a lot of times that then it kind of boxes men and in and it's alarming because if a man can't be sensitive and soft in his relationship, then where can he be? Like I'm I'm like I'm I don't know too many men that don't want to take the guard with no money. Like I don't I don't want to have to come home and protect myself from you. But do you do you know do you know what I'm gonna go to the world to have to come home to God and talk about you? Because I can't be bottom, but even when we use the words the phone's not in himself, the property in the both part of you. That's necessary for a healthy partnership. And in order to implement one almost has to see oneself, and if a man can see himself in your emotions, if he can't see himself in your company, then again, what do you think he's going to do? So when you talk about not wanting a man that's more sensitive than you, that's you falling into training that cuts pieces of a man off, and then you complain about those pieces being missing when he showed up at your doorstep.

SPEAKER_06

Hey. What y'all be doing?

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The T. I need comments now. Come on.

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Clock that teasy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So that stuck out to me when I I watched that probably about five or six times. Um my question to y'all out there, actually, I'm gonna I'm just gonna I'm gonna voice my opinion on that first. Um, for that young lady to get up and say, um, is it okay to have a man as as sensitive as you? I didn't like the way she said it. Because a man being sensitive and a woman being sensitive is two different things. Two different things. I totally agree with everything he said. If I can't one thing that really sucked out, if I can't be sensitive with my old lady, then what is we doing? What is we doing?

SPEAKER_06

Nothing good.

SPEAKER_01

And I think that's the problem. I feel like most men or most yeah, most men don't feel that's a safe space because of uh a comment like this woman said. So what what are what are your takes on that?

SPEAKER_06

I 100% agree with what he said, especially when he said, Do you know what I gotta go through outside of here? A lot of people don't understand. Yeah, it's so black men have like two or three different plights, and I just happen to be on the third plight, and that's the third floor. So you got black man, aggressive black man, then you got big black man. So in everybody's opinion and what they see in a big black man, there's always anger, it's always they're scared of him, they always on guard. So you gotta deal with that every single day, no matter where you go, and it gets annoying at times. Once you get used to it, you already know what to expect. Clearly, I'm 44 years old and I know how to deal with it now, but it still has this points in its times where you sit there like, I mean, God dog, y'all just scared just because I'm here or just because I'm talking to you, and then switch that and go home in a comment like that, and I'm already on edge because I had to deal with that third.

SPEAKER_01

Not even just that. You wouldn't be able to come home and have that conversation with me about how you were treated throughout the day.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

If I wasn't right, exactly. If you weren't able to express your feelings, which is being a form of sensitive, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but I wouldn't be able to have that conversation because if I know I'm coming home and you already feel like that, and I'd have now already had to deal with 78 people that not only feel like that, like you, but then times 10 with every other feeling that they feel about me being on that third tier of black men. So that's a lot that you gotta internalize, and it's only a matter of time before just pop. Yeah, and then when you pop, that causes friction in your home.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it does. And like Belinda said here, Blen, I totally agree. Yes, you should be his place of peace. You should be able to come home and be able to express your feelings and not feel a certain type of way, like, oh, I'm being soft or I'm being that there's within a relationship, especially a marriage, there's no such thing to me. I should see the most vulnerable parts of you at all times. At all times.

SPEAKER_06

And I can just speak wholeheartedly, I do that. And just to be candid and honest, it's sometimes where I think I don't want to say it catch you off guard, but it just depends on the conversation and the timing of when it comes out. But you do a good job of noticing when it comes out and still, as we say, put your kitten mittens on and be my soft, sweet safe spot. So, but other people don't have that like comforting and don't have that person that know how to turn it on and recognize when to turn it on. Turning it on can be a one thing, but recognizing when to turn it on, that's a big thing. Because once you recognize it, you can say, Oh, okay, I gotta like other episodes we were talking about, putting the hats on, different hats. Yeah, you recognize, like, oh, I gotta put this hat on because he's showing his vulnerability and his sensitivity of what crappy day he had or just how he's feeling about whatever. It could be his family issues that you can help him with and feel better about it. So it's just you have to have that right person to know when to turn it on and how to handle you when they turn it on.

SPEAKER_01

I totally agree with that. And I just think that's something that even if you even if you're starting in a relationship, that's something really to look for in your significant other. Like if you're a man and and obviously don't be too sensitive. Uh I don't want to say that I don't want to say that. Don't um jump into it the second week, like, oh, guess what? Blah, blah, blah, you know. Um But I just think that's something important to look for in a significant other. Like I said, I I see the most vulnerable sides of him, and I absolutely love that's actually what I fell in love with. Was the fact that you have this hard exterior, but I'm one of the few people besides I think besides your mother that knows the the the real you. Um and I think that's very important. But like I said, I hate when women use that word soft when it comes to a man. There's nothing soft about a man ex expressing his feelings, nothing soft. And I think that's the problem. I think a lot of men hold that in because of that.

SPEAKER_06

And not to uh mention, this is a good comment by Byron here. Black men gotta get told all the way from their childhood not to cry.

SPEAKER_01

I hate that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but and that's what I try to tell a lot of these kids that I well, mentor, coach, train, and blah blah, that you're not a punk if you cry. And you're not a punk if you literally show your feelings. And if you feel like somebody is judging you like that, so what?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's not depressing for you.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, I ain't even talking about in relationships, just your surroundings, your environment.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't think that, well, yeah, as a child, yeah, as a child, but I'm talking about within a relationship, yeah, yeah. Which is crazy. Now I'm just gonna give him a little insight. Me as a woman, I find that attractive.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but I was just going back to what Byron said. He's like a childhood. Yeah. So that carries over to your ground. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, and your love life because I can't stand only know what you saw and what you were taught.

SPEAKER_01

That men are supposed to be tough, you know. When that's not true, so you just bottle everything up and then when you explode, exactly. Now you're the angry black man.

SPEAKER_06

And not only the angry black man, you make horrible angry decisions as a black man, and you're gonna get judged with it immediately. At all times. And once you do that with a certain crowd outside of your relationship, because we're still talking about coming home and having a safe spot, but once you do that, you're gonna be labeled as that until they think you're something else. Because I've had to deal with that, like I said, my whole grown life. Well, hell, even when I was a teenager, I was this size, pretty much, height at least, and it was just from then. So if you constantly hear that, like Byron said, you have to find that buffering zone whenever you think you found your partner or your lover, to see, like, okay, so is it cool if I do this in front of her? Yeah, or should I not do this in front of her? And then that goes back to them thinking they're a punk if they do that in front of a woman. So that that can start off a relationship on a bad foot, or you can start it on a good foot with the woman being okay to tell him, like, hey, it's cool, you're fine, you're with me. You can say whatever, you can do whatever, you can feel whatever, and then that will help a man understand and know that that's the one. Yeah. Rabbit ears.

SPEAKER_01

And I totally agree, Ty, with what she said. Basically, exactly what you just said. That's when you'll know when that person is the one. But like I said, I just feel like women, we should literally, like I said, erase that word soft out of your vocabulary when you're speaking about a man. I just that really that that'll set that's that sets me off.

SPEAKER_06

SOF capital T.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I can't stand that because there's nothing women are supposed to be soft in in every aspect, not a man. Not a man.

SPEAKER_06

Especially when you rubbing all on the curves and you that's the soft part. Okay. Soft.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. He is he married, okay.

SPEAKER_06

Oh well.

SPEAKER_01

And happily, I see. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_06

Unfortunately, society keeps tabs fire going. Wait, what?

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I need readers, you know that.

SPEAKER_06

I think you're typing wrong, B. But it's okay. In order to keep us mad and some women too hard. But hey, that's just what I was saying, B. You're gonna be labeled that. If you have that one blow up where you're in a situation like you done had 12 or 13 straight days of the bull crap, and then you can't take the bull crap no more. That one time you snap, you're gonna be labeled as the crazy black man. Like, oh no, don't mess with him. He got a temper, he's a hot head. You gotta take that home now. Now you wondering if your partner think that way of you when y'all have discussions that go into an argument, and you could have just that one snap. And then mentally, as humans, you're gonna go right back to the PTSD as everybody call it. Like, damn, that happened when I did that at work. She probably feels like that about me now. Like, I'm just an angry guy, and I might have turned her off if y'all still at that beginning stage.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I think it's also important to um, you know, seek, I don't wanna oh yeah, seek help. You know, if if you have issues with expressing your feelings or expressing any form of sensitivity, there's nothing wrong with talking to somebody, whether it's the person you're with in a relationship or you seek outside help. I just think that's just major also within our community. Um like you said, with black men, I just think that's very important, but also a black woman to uh be that backbone and to you know just to stand behind you and let you know that it's that it is it's okay.

SPEAKER_06

And this is the token phrase of everybody like our age that grew up a certain way. Just break the cycle.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

If you do that now, your kids will see you breaking that cycle, so they won't think nothing is different. That's the only way that they will know. And not only their your kids, but then their kids, because you just broke that cycle of continuous uh walking on eggshells, as people say, or tiptoeing and should I say this? She's gonna think I'm feeling this way. Should I not say this? How should I say this? Should I present it like this? Or should I just break the cycle and get it out the way and see? Ain't no ain't nothing better than to just throwing your relationship into the fire to see if you come out. Because if you stay in the fire, that might not be the relationship or situation that you want because it's gonna be hot as hell and you're not gonna be able to be yourself. But if you throw yourself and your relationship in the fire and you come out and you cool, that's the part you need to grow with. That's the person you need to grow with, that's the partner that you need to grow with, and hopefully take it further than just your dating relationships and go ahead and cross that path and go to marriage.

SPEAKER_01

I was saying like a married man. Married man of coming up to 17 years, July twenty fifth.

SPEAKER_06

We almost legal in our marriage years. You know, 18 is the legal age.

SPEAKER_01

I was about to say, boy, I know I signed that piece of paper. I know you lying.

SPEAKER_06

See what I'm saying? You just had PTSD. Because I wasn't even saying that.

SPEAKER_01

I was about to say, what you mean legal?

SPEAKER_06

You thought I was.

SPEAKER_01

Do I really not know who you are?

SPEAKER_06

No, you don't. I'm a mother thug. That's who the f I am.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, anyway, that was that was that was well put. I'm and I'm happy that you were being transparent. Um that go back to what I was saying.

SPEAKER_06

I don't care. If you think I'm something, go ahead and think I'm something. If you have your uh pre-made opinions, yeah, I don't care. I'm about to go to sleep later on. I'm not gonna be worried about your little opinion of me. I'll be all the punks and oh, look at his big soft butt. I okay, see you later.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of sleeping, I had a conversation. And it's like I told you, you have this too, where people just randomly will come up to me and ask me questions. I don't know if it's just because of the pod or I just have this spirit of just come ask me questions, right? Dang it. What?

SPEAKER_06

This would be perfect.

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_06

Because I was thinking of buttons to hit, and you know, uh the the Return of the Dragon, that song, When You Got That Glow.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you mean the last dragon?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, the last dragon. Uh see, that would have been the perfect time for me to hit that button when you say that when people just come up. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

When you got that glow, and I do. So I was approached and I was asked, and mind you, we've been out of the dating pool for a very, very, very long time. So I was approached by a young lady, and she asked me, When do I think it's okay? If you're you've been hanging out with a person, when should you uh sleep with this person? When should you like when is it okay to have sex with like and then not seeming like that's all the the situation is? I'm like, girl, I said, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this to my chat because I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

How many miles you got on there in the first place? That's what these men need to be worried about.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm asking, I'm asking you guys in the chat, like, and this is a serious question. Like, I told her, I said, let me let me get to my chat and ask because she's been interested in this young man. They've been on and off talking, um, and you know, things are brewing, and she she keeps waning and waning. Woo! Might make a hip pocket. So, so when do you guys think that it's okay um to? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

Are you asking me as a man? No, because my answer is gonna be totally different than all your woe man's answers. I guarantee that. It's gonna be so different, y'all gonna say woe. Hey.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so let's use us for example. Let's use us for example. So, and I really don't even remember, but um, oh yes, I didn't know. We ain't gonna we ain't gonna do that.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, oh, see you see that American president Trump is here. She talk all this transparent stuff, then when it's time for her transparency. Oh man. Oh, fake news.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, Trump. Um we'll go with you. Yeah, what's the what what what what to that?

SPEAKER_06

You're talking about the answer to what you just said.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, are you horny? He's sitting right there, done. As fast as you want it to happen, baby.

SPEAKER_01

Uh but then after that, where does she go? That's what she's nervous about. She she's nervous that once they do it, that that connection is gonna be gone. Like she feels that they're they're you know, she's like, I could see this going somewhere. She's like, but I'm scared that as soon as we have sex, he's gonna move to the next. And I was like, well, if you in my opinion, if he if he feels that way, or if you feel that way, I'm sorry, then maybe that's all it is. If he's pushing, I don't really go into detail with her, but I did tell her I was gonna I was gonna talk to the chat about it.

SPEAKER_06

So Teasy says, I believe a woman connected emotionally and a man is not, if a person is not mature enough to accept what comes with what's that now?

SPEAKER_01

Premarital?

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah, premarital sex. Don't do it. No, it ran together with all the other words. Belfort education, too. You know.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so what would you from what she said? You agree with that?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. But like I said, your answer and all you one man's answers is gonna be totally different than mine.

SPEAKER_01

And she said discernment. Ari said don't do it. Tay said also discernment. And I yes, so that's what I wanted to say to her, but I'm I know for a fact she's been hanging with this guy for some I know a lot about him, but I feel like I there's pressure to, and I and I get it.

SPEAKER_06

She has pressure because he's horny too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I get it. But like you said, using that discernment, she's afraid that once you know it happens, that's gonna be it.

SPEAKER_06

So I should be asking you that question. When is it comfortable for y'all? Or did TZ just answer that?

SPEAKER_01

She definitely answered it.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's the emotional connection, yes. It's for us, yes, it's the physical, but like if I can't connect with you on an emotional level, and that's what with women, I know for a fact that sex is em it's emotional for us. It's not yes, it's just it's the act of it. But if I don't like you or I can't connect with you, I don't want what am we doing?

SPEAKER_06

Well, yeah, for y'all, but it's also emotional for us. If we do it and we liked it, that's when our emotions kick in.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so y'all are the opposite of us. So y'all have to do it to see if you like the person.

SPEAKER_06

Uh no, I don't want to say to that extent because Well, I'm just speaking for me and myself. I can't just go to the bar and be like, beer goggles, uh, see her. I'm about to go talk to her and we're about to go close the deal. I can't do that. I've never done the one night stand thing. I think that's I don't want to say weird, but it's just different.

SPEAKER_01

I don't want to say weird. It's there, it's not for it's not for you. I've never done that. It's just it's just one of those things where, like you said, I whatever. Um, no judgment. But yeah, so I T, I mean, she hit it spot on. Um, and I'm I'm actually gonna take that advice back to her, but she was so um just like it caught me off guard, and I was like, girl, I don't know. Girl, save yourself. I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

A man is gonna want it because that's in a man's nature, physical attraction, but most women get emotionally attached, and then the they sometimes mistake sex for a man's one in a relationship. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. You're saying the same thing because that's what I said. When men finally do that, then that's when they be like, All right, I think I might go with her. And then if they don't, all right, I think it's time to leave her alone because it's taking too long.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, Gia.

SPEAKER_06

What you talking about, G.

SPEAKER_01

She said the same. If there's concern, that there's her answer.

SPEAKER_06

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

But I I wanted to go into depth with her and ask her, like, what signs is he giving to make you think that he will leave uh hit it and quit it, as they say. Well, or maybe that's happened in her past and she's using you know what I mean. She's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which I can which I can see.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. But that goes back to my question before. How many miles do you got on?

SPEAKER_01

Well, how many miles do he got? Uh we will figure it out. Okay, so next question. So what why is that a thing so double standard? Total double double standard because there was something else. I listen, when it comes to relationships, I'll be all up in the feeds and everything. I don't know if you saw this or not, but Tommy Lee, who used to be on uh Tommy Lee, the actor? No, she's a girl. Tommy, she was on uh Atlanta, hip hop Atlanta, okay, right? She's 41, right? She is day oh, it gets better. She's dating or talking to Solange, Beyonce's sister, her son, Jules, who's 21. How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_06

Double standard. That's awesome for him. Clearly, double standard cricket.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. Okay, you you didn't know because you that's because in your mind that's what you saw when you said No, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, wrong bird How is that sweet?

SPEAKER_01

She's 41. He's 21. I'm I'm confused. How how is that? So is it's as a man, you have to you have to elaborate on that.

SPEAKER_06

You know, it's it's just like the whole this this is gonna be hidden closer home to a lot of people, and it may sound weird. Just like the whole teacher thing. When the men go down the age for the girl, that's totally weird.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, like when a male teacher sleeps with a younger. That's just yes, it's absolutely disgusting.

SPEAKER_06

But then flip it to the boys trying to get a teacher. Oh, alright. That's sweet. Yeah, definitely mommy issues. But like that's looked upon as sweet. Like, oh man, you you did that to the teacher? Man, that's sweet. That's the double standard of men because we was 41.

SPEAKER_01

And in today's society, 20 years, right? But in today's society, 20 41-year-olds are trying to either to me, Tommy Lee wants to look like she's 21, but she's not. So why go with a 41? Why go with a 41-year-old when you can have someone your age?

SPEAKER_06

Because it's the challenge of the older lady to a guy.

SPEAKER_01

Or do you think for her in my opinion, I'll go with my.

SPEAKER_06

Do you want to try to stay young?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't even think that. I think with her, I think she's trying to get mind you, that's Beyonce's nephew. I think it's it's I think it's like a uh a thing behind it, in my opinion. Because if he's interior motives, yeah, I might she's Tommy Lee. She's one of the show is baddies or whatever, but I totally agree with Ari as well. He may have mommy issues because regardless, 21 years old and 41. And I'm if anybody younger on here, I do apologize, but I'm gonna I'm gonna take it a little deep. As at 41, you have sex differently than you do at 21. Yeah, but she's there's nothing a 21-year-old guy can do for me at in my 40s. I'm sorry. We're at two different sexual peaks of our life.

SPEAKER_06

But maybe she's looking for a rabbit that can just hump her and pump her all day and all night because he got the young energy. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying, is it's different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree too, Blenn. She's got definitely insecurities. Um again, there's nothing a 21-year-old guy could do for my me in my 40s.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, because you got your head on straight. You acting like she got her head on straight, and literally, you know how many women say that? I need to give me a young boy.

SPEAKER_01

You see what Byron said. So yeah. What did he say? You see, and I and this is the part I want to understand from a guy's perspective. So, like you said, it's a challenge.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and the cool, yeah, B. Young men like the cougars. Older women, sex drive get crazy. Women, yeah, white man. Sex drive decreases. Hey.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he I get, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, man.

SPEAKER_01

Say what? Goodness gracious.

SPEAKER_06

That's funny.

SPEAKER_01

I yeah, you so that's that's sweet to y'all. That's sweet to a guy to be like, I I I bagged the older lady.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, for the guy and his peers, I mean, we're dumb.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, because how do you so let's take out the fact that she's Tommy Lee, right? And that she has not had all this work done. Oh, okay, I guess. Because I'm about to say, you can't. I really don't see 21-year-olds chasing after a lot of 41-year-olds. Well, no, that definitely people in their 40s nowadays look better than some of these people in their 20s. I'm gonna just say that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but he knows he ain't about to be serious with her. He probably thinking, oh, okay, I can just do whatever with her because she wants to do whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there was a video of them in the club in a section. I mean, she might as well have been giving it to him right in and there through the clothes. So that's why I said, and I I totally agree. Uh Tay say it. She she do a lot for clout, and she do.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think it's the motive behind it. I just think that's another uh episode of younger man, older woman. Like I don't take away him being because if you wouldn't have said that, I wouldn't have known who the hell he was.

SPEAKER_01

I guess being in my 40s and this to me, uh he's still a child. Yes. So that's weird to me. Like if I can remember when you were born, you know what I mean? We shouldn't be having sex. If I was an adult when you were born, that's disgusting.

SPEAKER_06

That goes back to my personal opinion.

SPEAKER_01

Um that's my personal opinion.

SPEAKER_06

That goes back to Michael Jordan's son, Byron, female Captain America. That goes back to Michael Jordan's son and Scottie Pippen's ex-wife. It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01

She's um that's disgusting.

SPEAKER_06

But it's the same.

SPEAKER_01

She was literally, they were saying uh uh what what is her name?

SPEAKER_06

Um Lartha, Partha.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Scottie Pippen's wife, y'all, or ex-wife of y'all can remember her name. But the one that was dating Michael Jordan's son, um, she literally has said one time on a podcast, I remember changing his diapers.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like your.

SPEAKER_06

No, uh G say in my line of work, I see it all the time both ways. Oh man, that's what I'm saying. But in G, what I'm saying is both of them, all right.

SPEAKER_01

You've been coming through with the names. Thank you. Hey, all right every week. Thank you. Larsa, thank you.

SPEAKER_06

Sorry, all right. I'm gonna go ahead and check your timeline. What you be searching?

SPEAKER_01

No, she just be on it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but so G, look, what I'm saying is you say you see it both ways, you hear different comments from both sides. The one comment is, oh my God, I can't believe he did that. What that is so gross. But then on the other side, you'll probably hear a comment, hey, well, you know, they she might have been looking for a younger dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, I get younger, I get that, but I'm saying like 21 and 41.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's 20 years. You keep saying that. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Ty said something so good as well. What do you say?

SPEAKER_06

If it's two grown mother effers, it ain't your business.

SPEAKER_01

If it's my son, it is. I'ma tell you that. Be grown. Me and that half of the same age, it is. But I totally agree. 21 years old, you don't even know, you don't even know who you are yet.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_01

And once again, as a mature seasoned woman, you don't know who you are, so you don't know how to satisfy me as a woman in my 40s.

SPEAKER_06

Right. But you're saying that as a woman in her 40s, in your right mind. Yeah, P, he's still a grown man. Okay, next to legal, P.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so P, we're gonna switch this. We're gonna we're gonna flip this. So say there is a man in his 40s, and you're a girl dad. Okay, there's a man in his 40s, and your daughter's 21 years old. And I mean, it it is it okay then? What that trip. No, no, it can't be that. It can't be that at that at that moment. She's still grown, right?

SPEAKER_06

He's still you say that now.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, you doing this for I'm your cousin in real life, and I know you, okay, pistol packing Tony. I know you.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, you know, too. I think the boy for real.

SPEAKER_01

I don't. I believe him. I know the boy.

SPEAKER_06

We ain't gonna go into stories, but I know for a fact you know hey, TZ, I said that at the beginning of the conversation. Double standards is a real thing, and that's just what it is. And y'all acting like y'all don't know this already.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean we're acting like we don't know?

SPEAKER_06

Y'all acting like y'all don't know. It's a such thing as double standard for men.

SPEAKER_01

You as a girl dad of two, two girls. Yeah, when they were 21, they brought somebody home in their 40s, basically one of your peers. Yeah, how how would that go?

SPEAKER_06

It would not go good. That's the double standard. That's the pure definition of the city.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, then you then you need to explain to me why there's a I can explain as much as I can.

SPEAKER_06

You're not gonna understand because if you don't understand now, what am I gonna say different that's gonna make you understand? I led with it's a double standard, and you're still saying you don't get it. That's the moral of the story. It's a double standard for men. I can't explain why, it just is.

SPEAKER_01

And P said as Ash, we had this discussion. You may have had a discussion now because they're younger, but wait, I hope it don't happen because I know you. I know you, Antonio. I hope it don't happen because, like I said, it's easy to say it now until somebody knock on that door, like and bad boys. You look 30. Right. Is it's it, I'm sorry. I just think that it's yes, they're grown at that point, but just like T said, they you don't know. At 21, I didn't know who I was, let alone to be playing in some grown person's face.

SPEAKER_06

So look, you're going into it as if they're about to get married. No, they're just each other's sex toys.

SPEAKER_01

You don't know where that could go, though. You don't know where that could go.

SPEAKER_06

They're not gonna get married. They're not even married. I'm not talking about those two, Tommy Lee. But we are. That's what we're talking about. That was the example you gave. They're just playing sex toy games. That's literally it.

SPEAKER_01

But but Antonio, what if you do know them? That's what I was just saying with Evan. Say it's somebody you know of, not a friend, of course, but just like with Jordan, Jordan's um son and um I lost Pippin. Pippin's wife, they they knew of each other. So, like, how was uh Jordan's mom or uh no, not Jordan's mom? Um, what's the son's name? Jordan's son's name? Marcus. Marcus. How was Marcus's mom supposed to feel? This woman was my friend at one point. You changed my son's diapers. They were never supposed to be. Now you're sleeping. Okay, you're an acquaintance.

SPEAKER_06

They just talk to each other at games.

SPEAKER_01

She said I helped, I used to change his boy's diapers. So how am I supposed to feel as a mother? I'm going upside your head.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. That's the double standard because women don't have the standard that a man does. That is the point of unity. I need to give break it down a little bit better. No, no, no. Because you're still not gonna accept it and understand. So you can try to hear an explanation all you want.

SPEAKER_01

Where is Byron when I need him? Where is Byron now when I need him?

SPEAKER_06

She's gonna say the same thing I did.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, she did. T hit it. She had plans. There we go. Yeah, when he was five. Yeah, that's just oh my god.

SPEAKER_06

I'm so it's weird.

SPEAKER_01

Extremely weird.

SPEAKER_06

But as a guy, as his peer, like I guarantee when he was with his friends, he is celebrated because of that.

SPEAKER_01

That's cool. Hey, you smashed our old an older woman.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm asking, that's cool.

SPEAKER_05

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, it's easy. I know. I'm literally admitting it's horrible. I'm totally admitting it's horrible. Once y'all are acting like I'm miss conscrew my words.

SPEAKER_01

No, because you you need to not, because y'all Byron said we missed it. What do we mean? Because you neither Byron Antonio not explaining it, Evan's not explaining it, Byron's not explaining it.

SPEAKER_06

No, not Miss Johnson, Miss Parker.

SPEAKER_01

Miss Parker.

SPEAKER_06

You're talking about Miss Parker.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so even once again, I need somebody to explain. No, he not because he married. I don't that's don't get that 70-year-old woman beat up. Now, if he was single, whatever. But yeah, would you smash a 70-year-old if you were single? No. Because they're not attractive. So if you were 16 years old or 21 years old.

SPEAKER_06

You listening to Elkie when she pushed it up to 70. Nobody's talking about 70-year-olds. Nobody's getting gummies around here. We're talking about a 20 and a 40, ma'am. Okay? 20 and a 40. There's no gums involved.

SPEAKER_01

All right. You almost made me split up my crack.

SPEAKER_06

Try dent.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Wow. Not well, according to Byron said depends on this on the on the 70. If the 70 look like 50, Byron is in.

SPEAKER_06

This boy's outrageous.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, and even then, like, I just want to know is it like a a thing that you had as a young boy, like?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, because when you're a young boy. You watch TV, right?

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. Like Pam Greer type stuff, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yes. So in the 70s, Pam Greer was what? The 30s or so? Do you know how many teenage boys thought she was so hot and wanted to do her? And go take it to Claire Huxtable.

SPEAKER_01

I used to have a crush on Claire Huxtable. I mean, but she was a classy woman, but you wanted to. See, I can't pick, like, you wanted to smash Claire.

SPEAKER_06

Once again.

SPEAKER_01

She's not smashable. She's just a classy lady.

SPEAKER_06

Bruh. You're not a man. You're not going to understand it. There's no other way that I can try to break this down.

SPEAKER_01

Byron said he's gonna, he's gonna explain it.

SPEAKER_06

So I'm I'm I'm ready to hear it is because I'm so no matter which way you put it, she's not gonna understand it because she keeps fighting what we're saying. No, I'm not sure. And we're not even yeah, you are because you said, No, no, you're gonna have to break it down more. Yes, what other lengths do we have to do?

SPEAKER_01

Every other woman in this chat is saying the same thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, because like I said, my opinion's gonna be different than your woman. Young men and older women, sex drives are close. Older men, sex drives slow down. The young man will right. That's what I'm saying. She wants a rabbit that's gonna do her all night long and every single day.

SPEAKER_01

And I want to hear from Jia because I want to see.

SPEAKER_06

Thank you. There's always been a double standard that can't be explained. Yes, the the body count, etc. That's what I started and said how many miles you got. Thank you, G. It's unfortunate, yes. But it is.

SPEAKER_01

And you saw what she said, and it could not be her son.

SPEAKER_06

I yes. Because you're a woman. Yes. Caleb, go get you a 27-year-old right now.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-mm. And I'm I'm with you, brother.

SPEAKER_06

And Gia, you call me. 27. Call me. Tell her how them red bottoms.

SPEAKER_01

Right, Elkie. Claire Huxtable is not smashable. Claire Huxtable to me was she was just such a regal woman.

SPEAKER_06

But listen to what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

Like you found.

SPEAKER_06

You said to me.

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Right?

SPEAKER_01

So you haven't.

SPEAKER_06

Oh man. You don't understand. Do you know how many young teenage kids wax they waxle to grown women? It happens.

SPEAKER_01

Both will be dead. Yep.

SPEAKER_06

She already got red bottoms on.

SPEAKER_01

But Claire Huxtable.

SPEAKER_06

She was hot.

SPEAKER_01

She's beautiful.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. There's no other answer. She was hot.

SPEAKER_01

Man.

SPEAKER_06

Thought she was hot.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sorry because there's no way at 21 did I think any 41-year-old man was attractive. I'm sorry. See, this is that to me, that was old.

SPEAKER_06

You had old balls. Because you're a whoa man. I don't understand why you keep bringing me back to that point. See? PZ, fire. I'm not declaring.

SPEAKER_01

No one's saying Claire wasn't. She's beautiful. She was she's absolutely stunning. Even now in her late 70s, early 80s, she's gorgeous. But she just didn't come across as like, oh, I wanna. You know, I couldn't see how a guy would say, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

That's the thing. You keep saying a guy, they're still kids. Y'all literally just said how 21-year-olds don't know themselves. So they're still kids. They're just horny kids. Peasy? Keep it real with them, man. Just saying. Just saying.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man.

SPEAKER_06

I understand, brother. I totally understand.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just right. All right, old balls. Like, I just that grosses me out. Like, I could at 21. Any guy that was past the age of like 26, even at that age, at 26, I'm like, ain't you a little too old to be trying to talk to me?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. But see, G, keeping it real. With aging sex drive is a definite fact. The point needs to be just that sex, not a relationship. Absolutely. That's what I said. They're not trying to go together for a long time and be engaged. They just trying to bang each other out.

SPEAKER_01

But see, I think that's hard for a woman, like I said.

SPEAKER_06

Not her.

SPEAKER_01

Clearly, not her. Now I will say this. And her body count, I don't know this woman, but I'm 74,000. She up there. She up there. And Byron says Paula Abdul was hot. I'm learning so much about the guys in the chat right now. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_06

Paula Abdul was hot. I agree, B.

SPEAKER_01

Dancing with that little cartoon fox.

SPEAKER_06

And I was mad I wasn't him. And I used to watch that video. Two steps forward, two steps back. We come together because opposites attract. She told you right there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because he was a freaking wolf.

SPEAKER_06

And he's a man. He's a wolf.

SPEAKER_01

I guess I can understand Peanut Tonio, that men and women are different. That's that's it. And it is a good thing.

SPEAKER_06

I've been saying that for the last 15 minutes. She doesn't want to accept it. She doesn't. And she's still thinking of a way in her head to fight it. She's not gonna understand it because she's not a man. She's a whoa man.

SPEAKER_01

Byron, young young women with older men is more about money, security, and sugar daddies.

SPEAKER_06

Pretty much. Because if you just said old balls, why are you with them then?

SPEAKER_02

Oh God.

SPEAKER_06

Preach, brother. Chase Bank. That's why they with him. Chase Bank. AARP, Buckeye Car, you know, health insurance. You never know.

SPEAKER_01

But he just said.

SPEAKER_06

But she's from King Kennedy. But he just said something though.

SPEAKER_01

He said a man's sex drive as you get older decreases. So if you're a guy and you're chasing a young girl, what are you doing that for if your sex drive is decreased? So you know.

SPEAKER_06

Because in his mind, it's gonna make him feel younger.

SPEAKER_01

But if you can't get it up, no, it's not.

SPEAKER_06

But what if you can?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I've left the loop, guys. I I've been out of the freaking loop.

SPEAKER_06

You're right, TZ. Men do mature way slower than women. Yes. That's my point once again. Y'all keep making my point for me, and y'all still going back and forth. This is outstanding.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06

Just to have young company. Yeah. Keep them around. Make you feel young all over again. Make you start from scratch. Because they think about back in the day when a man is 70 with them old dangly gray balls. Oh, yeah. I remember I could have pulled her back when I was younger. But she 27. I could have did something with her when I was 27. That's the kind of that's how men think.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm gonna say that um, I'm gonna end on this. I'm gonna agree to disagree with you, Antonio, and Byron. Sweet. I'm gonna leave it there. Oh man. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_06

Is there a ban button? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I do believe they have worms like dogs.

SPEAKER_06

It's unbelievable. Well, look, we got deep on this one today. We got deep and then we went to fun and games.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, funny games for who?

SPEAKER_06

I'm just for all our men's is on here. Shout out to the brothers, man. Shout out to the brothers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Shout out to you guys that like, yeah. Claire. Nothing wrong with Claire Huxley. She was I I love her still dearly, but I I ain't gonna be able to watch the show for a while. Now with you around. So stop looking at it. Now with you around.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, Claire's an awesome person.

SPEAKER_01

But uh that that was that was uh that was a good show.

SPEAKER_06

That was an excellent seven, because seven is what?

SPEAKER_01

Number of completions.

SPEAKER_06

Yep, and we completed this episode. We want to thank all of y'all for y'all comments. Y'all are insane, especially Elkie. She's the most insane person in the chat every single week. I appreciate her insaneness. And welcome to the party, G. We didn't miss you. PZ, that's two weeks straight. You setting it on fire all day. I already know where you're coming from. And we the same person, so I know what you're saying. I'm your translator. BZ, you are the everlasting troll, and we all love it. Appreciate y'all, man. You got something to say to people?

SPEAKER_01

No, I just once again, I appreciate y'all. We love you too, T. Um, this has just been nothing short of amazing. Um, we were actually, and I'm we're gonna end on this note. Uh, you were talking to a gentleman not too long ago, and he he was telling you how he was listening to us and how we really are like this. He knows us outside of this. And he was like, You literally, y'all are the same people.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, my man. I laughed in his face when he said this. He said, Man, y'all, y'all the same on here when y'all be doing the thing. I said, Yeah, man. He said, No, but you know, when people get to talking on the radio and stuff and shows, they be totally different. I was like, nah, man, I'm not totally different.

SPEAKER_01

No, he was like, He's a dick in real life and a dick on this show. It just is what it is. But once again, um, we thank y'all from the bottom of our heart. We we really appreciate this. And I want y'all to stay tuned because we've got plans to take this thing higher and higher. Um, and in a couple weeks, we will be on our Facebook you plus me equals us. Um, and you you guys just stay tuned. We got some things planned. And um, once again, appreciate y'all. Love you. I love you the most is.

SPEAKER_06

Oh. Love you too, champion. Girl, you so smart.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Well, with that, y'all, we will uh see y'all next week.

SPEAKER_06

Next Thursday, 7 30. Spread the word. Tell your friends, friends, and your friends that got the 21 year old boys. Oh my goodness. Tell them to hop on too.

SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_06

Yes. Yeah. 7 30.

SPEAKER_01

All right. We love you guys. Peace.

SPEAKER_06

See y'all.