You + Me= Us
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Sharon and Evan have been married for 16 years and are sitting down to share their honest, real-life views on marriage. From the highs to the challenges, they dive into what it truly means to build a life together. Grab a glass of your favorite wine, sit back, and enjoy the conversation with two imperfect—but happily married—people keeping it real.
You + Me= Us
Breaking Relationship Cycles
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Episode 9 of You+Me=US, Evan and Sharon take a deeper, more personal dive into the idea of breaking relationship cycles—not just in romantic partnerships, but within family and friendships as well. They explore how patterns, both healthy and toxic, often repeat themselves across different areas of life if they go unaddressed.
Through honest conversation, they open up about their own experiences—moments where they recognized cycles they had to confront, unlearn, and ultimately break. From communication habits to emotional triggers and learned behaviors, Evan and Sharon discuss how these patterns are often rooted in upbringing, past relationships, and life experiences.
They also highlight the importance of self-awareness, accountability, and growth, emphasizing that breaking cycles isn’t easy—but it’s necessary for building stronger, healthier connections. Whether it’s setting boundaries with family, redefining friendships, or improving dynamics in a relationship, this episode encourages listeners to reflect on their own patterns and take steps toward change.
With real stories, relatable insights, and meaningful dialogue, Episode 9 challenges listeners to ask themselves: What cycles am I repeating—and am I ready to break them?
What is up, my peoples? We are here. Sorry for the tardiness. It's okay. We still love y'all. We are.
SPEAKER_06It is not their fault that we had technical difficulties. Yes, it is. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Always gotta blame the guests. But this is week nine. Week nine of you plus me equals us. The uses. Us, not us. The uses us of USA. It is your birthday. Huh? No, I don't know. I just always like to throw you off at the beginning.
SPEAKER_06You throw me off every day.
SPEAKER_07On purpose. Yes. Welcome in, y'all. You can go to YouTube right now, which you are probably on watching us, or you are on my Facebook page. We gave y'all the deadline of week 10. That will be next week. We will be going on the you plus me equals us Facebook page. So you can go ahead and follow that page so you can be ready for the transition of next week. Next week is that deadline. You know how y'all are with deadlines. I don't know if y'all follow them good or not, but we will see.
SPEAKER_06I actually thought it was week 12. We said that, but week 10.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's week 10.
SPEAKER_06I was trying to give y'all a little extra.
SPEAKER_07Oh, okay. No extra time. No extra time.
SPEAKER_06All right.
SPEAKER_07The deadline is the deadline.
SPEAKER_06All right. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Also, the email address will change next week with that going over to the UPlusme equals us Facebook page. It will be, we'll release it at a later date.
SPEAKER_06In other words, we don't have it yet.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, we ain't got that yet. But for now, you can go to EACURRY, the number one at gmail.com. If you have any questions, concerns, or if you got a topic that you want to give to us, or you can hit us up on the messenger on that you plus me equals us page to also give the comments, concerns, and questions and whatever else you got for us.
SPEAKER_06There shouldn't be any concerns, other than just questions.
SPEAKER_07That's fine with me.
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SPEAKER_07Do you have any concerns or questions for the people?
SPEAKER_06Um, the only concern I have is I would like to be able to see our comments.
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SPEAKER_07What they used to say, hand me downs with the clothes, school clothes, hand me downs. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_07Oh, we just got one.
SPEAKER_06There we go.
SPEAKER_07Hi, daughter. Oh boy. How did you be the first one on here?
SPEAKER_06Hi, daughter.
SPEAKER_07So depressing. Don't you have homework to do or something?
SPEAKER_06In other words, Papa says hello.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah. Sorry. Hello. Hope you had a great day, R.
SPEAKER_06Okay, awkward silence.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's fine. Everybody needs it every once in a while.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_07But y'all know what time it is. It is TBT, aka Throwback Thursday. And you always know we got some songs that we like to play to get you in the mood. Which one you want to hear? Get you in the mood. Yeah, get you in the mood to listen, talk. Or just a jam. Or jam out, you know. Which one you want to hear first? Yours or mine?
SPEAKER_06Yours.
SPEAKER_07Okay. So this is kind of a backstory to this. The name shall remain nameless, but I dedicated this to somebody earlier today. And people. They know who they is, and they is them. We the uses and they is the thems. So this is for the thems. Go ahead and rock out for a little bit, y'all. This big loofah. Not little loofah. This big loofah.
SPEAKER_04The intro to this is so long.
SPEAKER_07It is a long intro. This one you had the Jerry Curl. It's short, but it was why I wore a sequence so I could drip on it.
SPEAKER_04A chair. Even when there's no one sitting there.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I shall see another hole. When there's no one there.
SPEAKER_06There's no one there.
SPEAKER_04You can't kick.
SPEAKER_06Okay. You need to cut. How are you gonna choose a song and not know when to I anticipate?
SPEAKER_07You were waiting to turn the key.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I would turn the key to the house. That was coming up, but yeah, you were a bit bit too soon.
SPEAKER_07That intro was extremely long. Yeah, it was. It was really, really long.
SPEAKER_06All right. Well, the song that I chose for my throwback is always in my rotation. So, but you know, I can kind of relate to this song. No, boy. Actually, I can I can I can relate. Not kinda, I can't relate. Come on, DJ.
SPEAKER_07Here goes nothing. Cover your ears.
SPEAKER_02That's why I had to dedicate.
SPEAKER_06That's what it reminded me of.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but you notice you said to see who played basketball? Y'all.
SPEAKER_06The guys. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07You were really talking about me at the center in Chagrin Falls.
SPEAKER_06I didn't even know you then. You was trying to.
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SPEAKER_06And that makes you feel good. Yes, honey. There was nothing before you. Hey. I was waiting, like I'm I'm waiting on my future husband.
SPEAKER_07She was she was hitting on me. Like, ooh, who is that? God dog. I bet you he needed a round the way girl. Yes. And I am around the way. Okay. I was yes, I was waiting on you. I know it. You ain't got to tell me. I was there. She even was outside in the parking lot. She found which car was mine, stood in front of the car and was like, I couldn't let you leave without you hollering at me. All of this is totally made up, but it sounds great for the moment.
SPEAKER_06Sound extremely Sahara dry thirsty. And never was the case with me. I'm just saying. I listen, and you know, not to toot my horn, but I'm a two-toot. No. They was checking for me. They, you know, they was checking for me. I almost say it's silly as but I'm a married woman, but I ain't gonna lie. No, you know, I'm just saying. Just once around the way girl, always an around the way girl.
SPEAKER_07Well, you done came home, you out the way now. So just be honest with that.
SPEAKER_06Okay, whatever that is supposed to mean.
SPEAKER_07Because you ain't around the way no more. You a homebody now.
SPEAKER_06I'm a homebody. Yeah. But I can still look like the round away girl as a homebody, right? Oh, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that. And that's the thing. So explain to me. Like, I have my definition of what a round away girl looks like. And what what's your definition of a round-a-way girl?
SPEAKER_07You heard what the boy said? Bamboo earrings, at least two pairs, sitting at the bus stop sucking on a lollipop. Okay. Not the little dumb dumb suckers.
SPEAKER_06No, no, you had to have the sharp the what was it called? The charm. What was it called? The charm? The charm. What was a lollipop called? With a gum in the middle.
SPEAKER_07That's just uh lollipop.
SPEAKER_06No, it wasn't. It started with a C. Somebody got to put that in the chat. It started with a C. I think it was a charm pop or something like that.
SPEAKER_07You talking about when uh the commercial with the I'll say no, that's a Tootsie Pop. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Boy, you used to eat candy with your old self.
SPEAKER_07No, I just gum and drink water.
SPEAKER_06It was the lollipop that used to cut the roof of your mouth. They had the green apple. The green apple was the best.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, with the gum in it. Yeah. I forgot the name of it.
SPEAKER_06It was one of them lollipops. Right. That she okay.
SPEAKER_07That was that's yeah, because it's got to be the big one or the old school ones, you know, with the little colors on the inside. Okay, ain't no girl.
SPEAKER_06That's not cute. Sitting at the bus stop licking on a lollipop.
SPEAKER_07When you from 93rd, okay, you gotta sell with these down the way. But I'm just saying, they had the candy store down there.
SPEAKER_06They weren't selling those. Yes, they was, babe, not the big ones that circle around.
SPEAKER_07No, not the huge, huge, over-exaggerated ones. It was still some media.
SPEAKER_06Blow pop, thank you. Where the heck did I get charmed? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_07Was it called Charm Blow Pop?
SPEAKER_06I think that was the actual brand name, but I it was definitely a blow pop, yes. So yeah, okay. You envision her sitting on the uh on the corner, the bus stop. First of all, that's kind of bad because she ain't had no car.
SPEAKER_07I mean, she was a round away girl, and we were still young then.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so sitting at the bus stop, sucking on a blow pop, bamboo earrings, at least two pairs. Okay, and then they had to have a don't forget the fan Fendi bag, he said. Yeah, the Fendi bag with a bad attitude.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, okay. But then you y'all remember how they used to wear sunglasses right here, and they used to look down like that, especially at the car they was trying to look in and see if it was a uh homie they wanted to holler at. Who is that in that passenger seat? That's what they did with the sunglasses, so that's how you do it. Then they push them back and then start sucking on a lot of pop again.
SPEAKER_06All right, I'm I'm sorry I asked because you watch way too many music videos or either way too much TV. But that's that's that's with how you envision around the way girl.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because he made it up. Okay, but that's the music video was on TV, so I had to watch a lot of TV to watch a lot of music videos. Duh.
SPEAKER_06Whatever, whatever. But my I feel like my song was better than yours. Like, I don't get me wrong, I love Luther. I love Big Luther, Little Luther. I love Luther.
SPEAKER_07It just depends on what mood you're in.
SPEAKER_06Well, that song in particular reminded me of that episode of Martin.
SPEAKER_07Or with the chair, still the chair?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, that reminded me of the episode of Martin.
SPEAKER_07And uh when you move into your first house as a married couple.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_07You think about that all the time because you were raised on it, yeah, and you wanted to see it, and then once you saw it come to fruition, you immediately went back to that moment because I did that when we moved in our home. I literally thought about it because the chair that was in the apartment looked different when it's come to a house. No, I'm dead serious. I'm not even joking. It just looked different because of the surrounding is different. Okay, yeah, it gives you that home feeling, seriously.
SPEAKER_06Okay, the apartment.
SPEAKER_07I learned something new today about my husband. Yeah, the apartment, it just you know, it looks different once you get into your own home. Not to say that you look down on the apartment, but you just have a different level of happiness.
SPEAKER_06Well, it's a different sense of accomplishment.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, different sense of accomplishments. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_06Okay, well, I mean, that that was we got away from the runaway girl thing, but I like the way I like where you took it. Well, actually, I took it there because I'm so much on the home.
SPEAKER_07I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06My bad.
SPEAKER_07Were you not?
SPEAKER_06I'm having a I'm having a um, I've been having those lately, kind of like are you on the moon? No, sometimes I really feel like it. Like today in Pilates, I really have what they call Pilates brain. I could not get my left foot in my strap.
SPEAKER_03Like I'm not even foot.
SPEAKER_06Yes, and that exactly. So I don't know. I don't know. It's I don't maybe it's my over 40 brain. I don't know. Do you have those moments where like you be trying to do something that's so simple and it's like your brain not talking to the rest of your body?
SPEAKER_07Sometimes, not a lot though. Yeah, what would it be? It's gotta be something like serious or athletically, like if I just some I well, I don't want it to be something serious.
SPEAKER_06I'm talking about something simple, like putting a foot in the strap.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah, no. I mean, well, that do kind of add up with the athletically, but like if I'm shooting at the record something and I'm missing shots that I normally make.
SPEAKER_06Well, I was just having an off day. I literally could not place, I couldn't understand. My brain was glitching, and I couldn't figure out how to put my left foot in my strap. Weirdest thing ever. But that's nor here nor there. Okay, that's fine. How was your day?
SPEAKER_07It was good, nice and long. Literally, just got here. Prior what time is it?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Like 30 minutes ago.
SPEAKER_06Yes, you just got in.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, no, this one was to the wire. This this was really, really close. Definitely to the wire. But you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. You ready to start the show?
SPEAKER_06I'm ready to start the show because I could have just stayed here and had small talk with you all day, but I'm ready to start the show.
SPEAKER_07I hope you are ready for us to start the show. Why why talk with me gotta be small? The hell? I'm big in here. Okay. Now we do want to start off with a clip though. We want to set the conversation piece so y'all know what y'all are about to get into, what you're about to experience.
SPEAKER_06We're about to take it a little different though. Um, we still, like I said, we still like to talk about relationships, but relationships just don't mean marriage, um, boyfriend, girlfriend. Relationships are, you know, it could be relationships with your parents, relationships with your children, relationships within friendships. Um, but we kind of tie that all together. So check out this clip.
SPEAKER_01What would be your best advice for somebody trying to break a toxic cycle?
SPEAKER_00We gotta heal from our past. And we can't just hear the word healing and think just heal from a romantic relationship. We gotta heal from things we got we went through in our childhood. We gotta go all the way back to the root of the issue. You know what I'm saying? We gotta release a lot of that negative energy that we've been holding on to, and now it's causing a lot of problems. And people don't realize when you're holding on to all those things, when you're suppressing, you create emotional stress in the body. And that starts to create sicknesses and diseases. There's a lot of people that got cancer because of emotional stress. So until we learn how to release that, we're gonna keep repeating certain cycles, we're gonna keep struggling in life, we're gonna have a hard time being positive and loving. So we gotta go through that process. It's not easy, but it's extremely, extremely necessary.
SPEAKER_07That's nice and deep for you people that like deep stuff. Starting off in this one with a real deep one. So, do you think he broke it down good enough?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, what what's what let's start with today's topic? What are what's our topic for today?
SPEAKER_07Today's topic is breaking relationship cycles. I'm gonna say it again, breaking relationship cycles. Just like you mentioned, it could be your intimate relationship with another person, it could be your mother, son, mother, daughter, father, son, father, daughter, cousin, whatever, just relationships in general. It doesn't have to just be about the marriage or the dating right now, just relationship spirit, because that shapes your life and it actually kind of dictates how you will be in a relationship most of the time.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, let's get this disclaimer like we always do. Um, we are not professionals.
SPEAKER_07No, we isn't.
SPEAKER_06We are just two people keeping it real and voicing our opinion. Okay, with that being said, what were you what was your take on that clip?
SPEAKER_07Well, at first it made me think about what I saw when I was younger about relationships and how they should be conducted. So you usually see like I always bring up your grandparents and your parents, how they coincist with each other. So when I was younger, you see a lot of stuff that we did a lot of things together as a family, and we have a big family. So you immediately think about all the good stuff that you did with that group of family, and then that carries over to your friendship groups because everybody is always like I said before, your cousins, you kind of pick your friends that act like your cousins.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they're some of your best friends, exactly. Your first best friends, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but I'm talking about even like when you go to school, you always think about people that you meet, like, oh man, they remind me of my cousins, such and such. So y'all end up being cool. That's what I used to do. Yeah, I used to do that a lot, but you can always shape a relationship off of the example that your big family had, in my case, the big family. And it was like I said, it was good times, a lot of traveling, and that also helped me get outside of my family. When we traveled, we met a lot of new people in the different places that we were going to and that we would frequently visit, and they ended up becoming family. So that that's a good thing that shaped my relationship outlook when I was a youngster.
SPEAKER_06I will say one thing, and obviously I wasn't there because you know, I say like I was in baby heaven when you were in baby heaven when you were supposed to be married at that time, but um, one thing I can honestly say, like just coming into life, and I'll go into um the things I saw as a child, um, was your grandparents. Your grandparents' relationship and marriage from what I saw was an absolute blessing on my life to be married for um over 60 years. 60 years. Wow, six, yeah, 60 years. Yeah, over 60 years.
SPEAKER_07I don't want to misquote the wrong one. I want to say like 62, 64, but I'll just say over 60 because I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_06It was over 60. Um, that was a blessing just to see. And you were very blessed to be able to see, you know, that growing up. That gave you um the blueprint. I feel to be the husband you are. And it it showed you what a wife, in my opinion, because your grandmother was, you already know how I felt about her. I told you other the other day I was actually um cooking for a family, for a family meeting. And um I told you that it was an honor to be doing that for your grandmother's family because she has such big shoes to fill. I'll never be able to fill them, but I can try my best to do such. Um, but you got to see that and I admire that. You got to see what it what it what it took to be the man of the house and what you you had expectations of what a wife should have, what should what what a what a wife should be. Um so I just wanted to kind of throw that in there because, like I said, I just really think that that's important. And a lot of things that you do, I literally sit and say, like, oh wow, you're like your grandfather. Like a lot of a lot of times.
SPEAKER_07I do that sometimes when I do certain things that when I say certain stuff, I hear him say it after it comes out of my mouth. I say, Oh man, that sounds like him. And that I'll do that sometimes, like with my dad too. My laugh sometimes, I'll be like, oh man, I just sounded like my dad when I laugh like that. And not saying it's a bad thing, but just it's just the nostalgia of the whole thing, just like how music takes you back to a place when you hear certain things and you hear certain sounds and you make certain gestures, you immediately think of that person who did it, and it's a special time when they did it, because it stuck out in your brain for a reason.
SPEAKER_06And that's crazy. So, speaking of music, so one of my core memories um growing up of my parents, um, and like I said, in previous episodes, my parents got married at a very young age, actually got married at 19. I was actually at my parents' wedding. Um, and I just remember growing up them, that's one of the reasons I love music. And you know that, like I can put on music and cook, put on music and clean, whatever. But watching them as a child dance in a living room, like that's a core, core memory. So to me, I always used to be like, oh my god, I can't wait to do that when I grow up with my husband. Like, I can't wait to do that. Even though I married a person that really you're not a big dancer, you like music, but you're really not a big dancer.
SPEAKER_07Not at all. No, because just like you said, I didn't see that. I didn't see people dancing together, especially at home. Yeah, no, I I can't even think of one time where I Saw my grandparents or my parents dancing with each other at home ever, yeah, like literally, if ever, and even at certain gatherings, like I always saw them doing the line dances and stuff when they all up there together, but never like an actual hand dance.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, wow, never saw that, and that's something too. You actually, and this is I feel like this episode is about transparency. I know we're we're usually very transparent, but this episode, I feel like we were talking beforehand about just being very transparent and very open. Um, and that's just a part of healing. Um, but no, I do I do agree. You you're not, you don't I don't want to say you don't like to dance, you just like you said, you've never seen it, it was just it was just something unfamiliar to you.
SPEAKER_07But don't get it wrong. I can dance.
SPEAKER_06Yes, you can continue. Yes, you can. Um, but I wanted you made me just because in my mind, I just literally pictured at our daughter's wedding, you were cutting a rug when they played the Cupid Shelf for some reason in the wallet.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I left a whole bunch of pieces of rug behind that night. Uh it was confetti by the time I was done.
SPEAKER_06Uh, but um, what I wanted to say was going into breaking the um the cycles, um, starting with you, like you said, you didn't see a lot of things. And once we got together, I remembered a couple conversations of me saying just certain things that I was used to growing up. Like I said, the the not necessarily the dancing, but just some of the communication. Um, or um when I would get done up and I'd be like, Well, I got done up for you, and you wouldn't say anything. And and for me, that would make me feel like, well, I didn't got done up for him, and he's not even noticing. But we had that conversation, and you just came out and said, Well, that's foreign to me.
SPEAKER_07Like, you should know how beautiful I think you are because I married you, and and you know, stop me from no, and I've said it before, I've said it at least four or five times before that particular time you're talking about has happened. So I'll give the backstory to that. My grandfather was a very straight to the point person, yeah, and very minimal words saying things, anything, but when he spoke, you know he meant what he said. Yeah, so I can probably count on one hand how many times I heard him say I love you to anybody, not just his wife, us, and probably four or five times I've ever heard him say I love you, like period. And then my father, the same way. I can't remember my childhood growing up, and I just knew they loved me. It's not the fact that I wanted to hear them say it, I just never heard it. So when other people would say it, I'd be like, Oh man, that's weird. Because that was weird to me because I never heard that, but I just already I already knew that they did, so that's the part that carried over to our marriage. Thinking, like, well, clearly she already knows I love her, so there's no I'm not saying there's no reason for me to say it, but right, no, there's no reason for me to say it because she knows it. That's the way I thought everybody thought, and then so that's the part I had to fix, and and me not hearing it enough, I felt, was looking for it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And so when when you wouldn't say it, I'm like, okay, like it was I was so frustrated, like I just don't under, I don't understand it. Like, and it would cause a lot of arguments, you know.
SPEAKER_07Um not just well, yeah, you can call them arguments, but it was disagreements.
SPEAKER_06Like, oh, no, I want to say disagreements. I I would be in my feelings about it, and I feel like there was a sense of confusion from you because you were like, Well, why are you so upset?
SPEAKER_07Totally confused.
SPEAKER_06You should know that I love you, but I'm like, Well, I need, and it goes back to I think we talked about on episode two about love languages. I didn't know that that's my that was gonna be my love language because I feel like with your love language, it is something that, in my opinion, that I lacked. What the hearing it or or or yeah, I guess hearing those words or hearing uh certain things growing up. So I was looking for that, you know, in in within you. But I feel like fast forwarding to now, like we've broken both of those cycles. And we're still a work in progress, but we're we're we've broken both of those cycles.
SPEAKER_07And I could say that carried over to another part of my life, what I do with children and everything, and athletes, whether it be boys or girls, just letting them know that it's okay to hear other men say that to other people, or it's okay for somebody and not just love you, or hey, what's up, man? You like ask them how they're doing and just tell them what they did good or tell them what they did bad, but then still because that part you kind of have to be stern or whatever if you're in the discipline mode, but then right after that, laugh and joke with them then say, like, I still love you, but I had to do that part to you so you can understand the seriousness of what I was trying to correct, or just the seriousness of our relationship with me being the leader in the relationship with the the kid aspect of it.
SPEAKER_06So, with you saying that, do you feel as a child that when things will happen, no one gave you that disclaimer afterwards? Like, okay, okay, it was just straight that's breaking cycle.
SPEAKER_07You did this, yeah, you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_06That's it, it's over, and then you're left to come to your own conclusion as a child, yeah. On literally, okay, I did A, but why was B so um extensive?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I mean, I think I kind of got conditioned to that. I said that before on another pod where game for all seasons, yes, that is the other best pod in the world. You should be listening to it is on this YouTube channel that you're watching us on. So go ahead, subscribe, and watch every single episode. Once again, subscribe, but anyway, I was thinking like I think that's why I was such a person to myself, because I was always kind of rebellious because I didn't understand a lot and I didn't get explained a lot about different things, so I would just hold all the stuff in and just explode to myself when I was on punishment. I did a lot of stuff when I was on punishment, and then when now you look back at it. Well, I'll give you another example how we play these songs at the beginning, and we always talk about for lovers only, like this song was on for lovers only. I used to be in my room for nights upon nights upon nights, listening to the radio, days upon days upon days, listening to the radio, because it's something I did, I clearly did something to be in trouble, but that was my punishment. I would be in my room, and all I had was that clock radio, so I would listen to the radio, listen to the radio, trying to imitate voices, trying to be like a radio DJ. And now, look, well, I have two podcasts now, and it's like it's it's just uh that was preparing me for this moment, but I had no idea that that's what that was doing. Yeah, but I totally see that now, and that's the joy in that.
SPEAKER_06But you allowed it, you turned it into that, yeah. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_07But then on another aspect of that, when I was still listening to it before the Lovers Only thing came on, it was just the regular radio when they would play the you know, the up tempo stuff. That's when I will work out too. When I would like literally, I would do push-ups until I couldn't know more, I would do sit-ups until I couldn't no more, I would do squats until I couldn't no more. And now, look, I'm a trainer and a coach, all that stuff came full circle. So, whatever it is, you could be going through it at that moment and not understand it, not realize what's going on. But sooner or later, you'll figure it out, and it's up to you to break that cycle and then turn it into something good so you can break somebody else's cycle to give them another look at the situation and at a person that came out of a situation that they might be trapped in to help them get out, and then that cycle will keep going, and that's how you break the bad part of the cycle. But then you have to start a new cycle in order for it to become positive when you break that negative one.
SPEAKER_06And speaking of that, too, like going back to when you said you didn't see um your grandparents kind of be affectionate in front of one another or whatever. I've and I'm gonna give you your flowers right now for you breaking that cycle because my our daughter, our youngest daughter who was on here, who recently just got married, um, that's all she saw was affection in our home. She saw us uh me attempting to dance with you. I was about to say that's because of you. Yes, me attempting to dance with you. Um even just the affection of just kissing in front of her. Like those are things that I felt that's very important for your children to see. Um, and also one of the things that that I can honestly say that we've broken that I've broken was the having disagreements in front of your children. Those are some some core memories that I have. And once again, like my parents got young at a got married at a very young age. So you tend to do things as you saw, right? So I'm I'm guessing that's maybe something that they saw growing up in their household. So it was it was a thing that I remember like as a child just sitting there and watching them go back and forth. That is something that we've stopped in our home. Like we've our our children, and Ari, correct me if I'm wrong, um, can sit here and say, like they they've heard us bicker, but never a blowout argument.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, she's always the referee. All right, y'all do one cheese.
SPEAKER_06Even if we bicker, my daughter will put us in check, like, uh-uh. And that's something you know darn well back in the day. If you even attempted to, you got your mouth smacked. You got your teeth knocked down your throat. If I was to ever try to intervene, I would have got my teeth knocked down my throat.
SPEAKER_07I didn't even think about intervening. What up, Shar? How you doing, playing? Shar is in the buildings.
SPEAKER_06The print is small.
SPEAKER_07It's a yeah, I'm not a very affectionate person at all. That's why I don't have a husband. No, you're ignorant.
SPEAKER_06Okay, and honestly, you believe it or not, Charlene, you really are an affectionate person. I know within the family you are because every time I see Charlene, it's a hug, a kiss, be jiggling, right? You are a very affectionate person. So maybe just in not all situations, but you definitely are with your family.
SPEAKER_07And for people that don't know Charlene, she is the cousin, and she is my Pam, okay. To Martin, the Martin and Pam. Yes, because I'm pretty sure I thought you were a man the whole time. I'm pretty sure you didn't have a husband. I thought you were a man. You are the husband.
SPEAKER_06I can't wait to see her comment coming back to you. You are the husband, punched right in your face.
SPEAKER_07So go ahead, pick out your tuxedo with the penguin tail, get a top hat and a cane, and you will walk yourself down the aisle. Marry yourself.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, anyway, anyway, ridiculous. But no, like I said, I'm glad that we um have broken some of those cycles. Like I said, it's still a work in progress. We're human.
SPEAKER_07I know I'm still a work in progress because I can get stagnant sometime, and admittingly so, and not just uh accepting the growth and then just stopping, but constantly realizing that I gotta keep changing, yeah, or I'm just gonna stay the same and it's gonna be no growth. And if people know me, that is my pet peeve. Yes, I hate flatline, like not death flatline, but just staying here, staying afloat. Of course, you're gonna do this, you're gonna have the ups and downs, but I love this part of life and growth. Because if you're not doing this, you're not growing.
SPEAKER_06But that also when once you just said that, that has made me think too that is in all relationships, not just including a marriage, yeah, um, or just being a relationship, a friendship. Because I feel like in seasons of our lives, um, you know, like you said, when you start to extend, there's some people that come with you, and the higher you get, some people start to fall off. Um, and I think that's that's healthy.
SPEAKER_07But that's always that's always gonna happen. And then I think it's supposed to happen for a reason, though, because of that growth. Yeah, you're gonna meet new people at the level that you're growing to. Oh, that's good, but yeah, that's the only way you can think about it. You can't take it personal if you are a person that got left behind. You shouldn't take that personal. You should start your own growth, and that person that left you really didn't leave you, they just did something different with their life. You help them get to that part, whether you like it or know it or not. Yeah, but you got to find your own path and your own growth in order to do that, and then next thing you know, you'll have your own circle, it'll be a new circle. And just because we've grown in separate ways, don't mean I hate you or the person hates you. You'll meet again just on another level, but you still have that familiarity and that same love for that person. It's not like you're just gonna be enemies, you just won't see each other as frequent as you got used to, and that's a good thing. Because if you look at every stage of your life, look how many people you don't see as much as you used to. Do you hate that person? Do you think that they left you? No, no, it's just life, you evolve. So don't take the growth personal and don't take breaking cycles personal because it's not, you have to make it that way for yourself. So if you break apart from somebody that you just knew that you was in a relationship with or that you was cool with, you grew up with it's fine, it'll be all right. Don't take it personal, just grow at your pace. Y'all have two different paces, y'all have different goals. Just because y'all cool, don't mean y'all the same person, y'all not gonna like the same thing. So just relax and do your own growing.
SPEAKER_06All right, well said. I mean, I I don't have nothing to say after that.
SPEAKER_07Oh, you said, Yeah, that's my plan, and you're gonna be my best man. All right, Gus. Charlene Gus Thurman.
SPEAKER_06Oh my goodness gracious, real name Charles. Any anyway, anyway, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Well, um, do you see anything in your life that you've outgrown, but you think about how far you've grown from it or what you've missed?
SPEAKER_06Um, anything that I've outgrown. And so outgrown it and then still miss it, or just outgrown it?
SPEAKER_07Both. Do you miss it because you outgrown it? Like what you left behind. Uh, it could be a part of you, it could be a habit you had, it could be a person, it could be an old friend, a family member.
SPEAKER_06There's definitely, there's definitely people. Um, there are definitely people that I've I don't want to say outgrown, it's just I feel like life has called us to different paths. And you know, I don't know. I I just yeah, I just think that life has called us to different paths, and there's still a mutual, like, you know, mutual love. Um that's the hard part for me because I don't want to call it like grieving, but it is in a sense. I'm grieving who they used to be, and they're probably grieving who I used to be. But right now, in this season of our lives, we are not meant to uh meet. So yeah, I do, I can say I miss, I miss people. Habits, no. Um, habits for me, I was just telling you this, I think earlier this week. No, it's only this today. Just on certain things that I've changed in my life that I do not miss as far as like just kicking it. Like, I really don't maybe it's just my age, or I just see no purpose in it anymore. And there's nothing wrong with anybody that's sitting in that stage of kicking it. Trust me, I did it enough for all of us. But I'm in a stage now where um things have to make sense to me. And I felt like when and we did it early in our 20s, like early 20s, 30s, and we were young parents and we were teens. Yeah, teens. Man, yeah, swamp club, all that stuff. But anyway, but yeah, so I feel like that part of my life, I did it, but what do I have to show from it besides to say I did it? That's it. That's it. So why continue to keep doing it?
SPEAKER_07That's an outgrown moment right there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I just I don't I don't see any uh any reason to keep doing it. One thing about me now, like you said, being a runaway girl, I'm a homebody. That is the guy's honest truth. I literally enjoy being at home, I literally enjoy being a homemaker. Oh, I'm kind of like Luther, I made this house a home.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you carried that chair in that I was talking about earlier. You said it right there on the rug. I said, look at that chair.
SPEAKER_06Okay, it's still a chair. Well, I can I'm gonna let me pass that question to you. Same question. So are there any things that or people and not using any names that you feel that you've outgrown? And and outgrowing someone does not, like you said earlier, does not mean you dislike this person. It's just you both have grown in total opposite directions, right? Yeah, and that's that should be like a mutual understanding. Um, so is there anything that you've outgrown that you used to do, or people that you've feel like you've outgrown?
SPEAKER_07People and groups of people, including family. There's some family members that I can sit here and think about. Like, man, I never thought that we would be the way we are, but at the end of the day, it is what it is, and I still love the crap out of them because they are family and all the stuff that be we've been through, but our lives just don't fit at this like moment in time, and it got to this point, but uh there's nothing I could do about it.
SPEAKER_06That's breaking the cycle because you know, when you're growing up and you're taught like family is everything, family is blood, is thicker than water, and blah blah. And the older you get, you like this is my family, is not by choice, right? It it once again, like we're we're all raised to believe the same things, and then you get older, you like what and so that goes back to what I was talking about with my punishment times.
SPEAKER_07I can't do that to a kid, I can't just isolate them like that because you would literally go crazy. Like I tell you this all the time. Like it felt like it felt like I literally was in solitary confinement, yeah, and it didn't teach me nothing, it just made me angrier so and to hold things in, yeah. So that just made me stay in there because I never learned my lesson. I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna go back to my room then. Um I'll be fine with that. I'll do more voices, I'll work out more. That's how I get my pain out of the way. So I thought I really wasn't.
SPEAKER_06Now I'm gonna stop you there because the voices thing that that that's a little crazy, yeah. That that was all your personalities.
SPEAKER_07Ask a brother in the hole right now. Guarantee he did Bob Barker, Steve Harvey, Prince, and Jacques Cousteau.
SPEAKER_06Okay. And my cousin Charlene said the same thing, like a huge homebody. I'm same way. It's just it's just it's nothing. I don't I don't want to say nothing out there because I'm not out there looking for anything, but it just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I don't want to spend money at the bar when if I choose to have a drink, I have a fully stocked bar here, or it's just for my peace. And it's a lot of different energies in there that I just don't want to I don't want to deal with no more. Now, if you catch me out, you're gonna catch me out, but I it's just it's far and few, far and few.
SPEAKER_07And and shout out uh to Byron, shouting out the monks, man. We need to pay monks more attention. I like monks. Yeah, the voices in the room. I thought monks didn't talk, they do, but they don't. But shout out to the monks that walked 2,500 miles barefooted all the way to Capitol Hill to try and make a difference. Shout out to the monks, man. Thank you, B.
SPEAKER_06That's that's real.
SPEAKER_07Them is the realest people of all time.
SPEAKER_06I don't get it. Can you elaborate on that? I don't get it, right? It's all coming together. Okay, exactly. The voice the voices is what threw me, and I don't mean to throw you off track, but no, I'm not off track. That that's something like that.
SPEAKER_07It was like multi-personality type stuff, but yeah, no, and I will tell you I have multi-personality, you have to have multi-personalities. You can't you gotta be different with whoever you're dealing with at that point in time, okay.
SPEAKER_06Well, say that. Don't okay.
SPEAKER_07I can't be uh the same way I am with you with the kids at the school. No, they ain't gonna get nothing done. No, you sure can't.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, go on. I didn't mean to interrupt your story, but I just thought the voice thing was a little bit, you know.
SPEAKER_07But you just know I would never be able to do that to a kid and just tell them, just sit there and think about what you did, and you better not do it again.
SPEAKER_06But think about it.
SPEAKER_07All right, I'm done thinking when you the hell I'm gonna do now.
SPEAKER_06All right, I didn't thought all I was gonna thought. Yeah, but and that's the thing like at the time, your mom didn't know anything different because she that's what happened to her. So, like As a parent, yeah, it was on her to kind of try to break that cycle. So, and and the reason I feel like you've not been like that with our children is because you know how it felt. Yeah. Just like me, like getting butt whoopings. I got enough butt whoopings. Yeah. Good God. Okay. For Jenna, my for my great great great great grandkids.
SPEAKER_07And I'll tell you what, I will tell you how my whoopings went. This is why I have the tolerance of pain that I have to this day. My grandfather, military guy, very, very to the book. Dog, everybody knows the weightlifting squat belt. I told this story to some of the kids the other day, too, so they can understand how good they got it, and they don't have to deal with this anymore ever. So the weightlifting squat belt, that's what I used to get a whooping with. And I wish it was a regular whooping that it was just over, like after you know, you know, they do the speech when they're whooping you. I told you is that a black thing?
SPEAKER_06Absolutely. Like, why you got to talk to me? Just get this over with. I don't want to hear your mouth. Just whoop me and get it over with.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, so that's what I wish happened. We had to stand facing the wall, put our hands on the wall like this. We used to have to take three swipes with that belt. If we remotely do this, if we move, start over at zero. It doesn't count. We have to take three of those swipes without moving whatsoever. And pretty sure all of you know that you're humans, you're gonna move if a grown ass man is sitting there hitting you like that. You're going to move as a kid, as a human. That's just natural reaction. Yes, literally, the definition of reflexes didn't matter. It could be I I counted one time, I got all the way to 28. One time, 28.
SPEAKER_06I would have just passed out, but Charlene said we were when we were talking about the whoop talking while you're whooping. Yes, because I gotta let you know why. I know I don't care why I'm getting a whooping. You talking to me right now is not helping it. And then you talking, I told Joe F hey, not listening, right? Not listening, and then don't take off running, like yeah, no, I couldn't move, I couldn't run.
SPEAKER_07Hey, shout out to Brittany. Welcome back, Britt. This is her birthday month. Just want to let you know.
SPEAKER_05Happy birthday!
SPEAKER_07She said I still be on the wall right now, right?
SPEAKER_05From flinching.
SPEAKER_06That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07Hey, but I'm telling you, pain tolerance through the roof.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but once again, going back to breaking cycles, you you broke that. Yeah, you broke that. Oh, we got a lot of comments in here we didn't even see. My goodness.
SPEAKER_07Would you say, Elk, leaving a kid isolated alone in a room all day, all night is actually diabolical.
SPEAKER_06Yes, yeah, it and it it definitely is. You uh and you said you felt that um you would hear everybody having dinner or watching TV, and you would literally watch TV through from sound, yeah.
SPEAKER_07And then I would be mad. It's like, man, sound like everybody having fun, and I'm just up here in solitary confinement. Oh well, guess I'll do more push-ups, and that would that would be my anchor, like my anger, that'll get my anger out once again.
SPEAKER_06So I thought, oh, Charlene, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_07That's a military. Punishment for my grandson is different. Hold the penny in the circle on the wall in a squat. That sounds cool.
SPEAKER_06That may be coming to the next workout. Oh my goodness. So Byron said that we obviously we're not sweet. The YouTube crew can't see us.
SPEAKER_07No, he said he was all by himself on YouTube. Everybody else on Facebook.
SPEAKER_06Whoops, sorry, yeah, sorry.
SPEAKER_07But the the penny thing is pretty effective, there. That really is.
SPEAKER_06That's concentration, but but once again, she breaking a cycle. You know what I'm saying? And still, you could be tearing his behind up. But like, I feel for me that getting whooped or whatever you want to call it, it caused me to be angry. It caused me to, like you said, bottle stuff up because like I know, yes, what idea was bad, but was it this bad? Can't be in the summertime going to school with long sleeve shirts because you didn't got had to go pick out your switch, and like I would love to pick out a switch. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's better than a squatting belt. I'll take a switch on it.
SPEAKER_06I grew up in uh a little more country than you, and them them switches was green, they didn't break, they just wrapped around you.
SPEAKER_07You know, you peel the switch. Trust me, I've picked my share of switches. I'm just telling you what I prefer now.
SPEAKER_06And I I know this might not be like I don't know when to call this like healthy or whatever, but I'm just curious to know what what did y'all get whooped with? Like, what are some things y'all got whooped with? Like, I feel like this is maybe this is healing. Let's it is healing because I want to know if I'm by myself.
SPEAKER_07What up, Taito?
SPEAKER_06Hey, sis, how are you? But yeah, I want to I want to know some things that y'all got whooped with because like I I can think of some things I'm like, man, and I'm alive to tell it.
SPEAKER_07It's whatever com every comedian said the the Hot Wheels racetrack, the extension cords, the hands, the belts, the switches, uh ironing board. Uh and the ironing board, yeah. The iron cord.
SPEAKER_06Uh no, you said the board. Yeah, no, ironing board. Oh, okay. Well, that that's abuse.
SPEAKER_07That's that's that's definitely everything we're talking about is abuse.
SPEAKER_06It definitely was. Um, and I hope everybody that's gonna tell me what they got whooped with has broken that cycle. Because we we're can you imagine doing that to these kids nowadays?
SPEAKER_07I would be in jail because I probably would have killed a kid.
unknownJesus, Lord, have mercy.
SPEAKER_07I would have hit them too hard.
SPEAKER_06And I feel like that's why these kids are soft nowadays.
SPEAKER_07No, I know that's why because that was mental and physical.
SPEAKER_06Because I used to go to a special place in my mind when I was getting a whooping. Hey, damn B, you said a uh a roasting pan, Charlene.
SPEAKER_07That's raw. Woo! Well, B said a thorn bush.
SPEAKER_06Jesus, yeah. Charlene, don't put my auntie out out there like that. She's a change woman.
SPEAKER_07Hey, I'm putting my mama them out there like that.
SPEAKER_06Extension card, oh my god.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, Tay. Mommy shoe.
SPEAKER_06And I can I can hear the core like through my that wind sound.
SPEAKER_07Oh, and your mama didn't have no little feet, okay.
SPEAKER_06Oh Lord, Lord have mercy.
SPEAKER_07Mama don't have no little foot.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I want to see some more. I um the roasted pan is what took me out. Oh, okay. You good. Your parents were talkers. You mine talked like my cousin said, telling you why they're whooping you.
SPEAKER_07Bruce say my grandmother used to have us go pick a switch, but I don't get whooped because I was being good. Yeah, right. You're lying, you were the organizer of the dirt being done and the crimes being committed. You were the brains of it, okay.
SPEAKER_06Well, what it was was because she it was what she was taught, you know what I mean? Like they did the best they could, but like I said, I'm I'm surprised that we are all alive to sit and tell these stories because some days, oh my gosh, we all just old, that's all it boiled down to.
SPEAKER_07But the moral of the story is we are glad y'all are breaking these cycles, yes, and doing the right things, and now the world is gonna be changed because it ain't nobody getting well. It probably is people still getting hit with switches and stuff, but it ain't even bad the way it used to be with all these stories that we're talking about.
SPEAKER_06No, Dominic got beat with a two by four.
SPEAKER_07Oh my god, and then probably had to turn around and build the house with the two by four.
SPEAKER_06Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_07Now, boy, I'm done beating you. Gonna put that shed up with that board.
SPEAKER_06Uh, yeah, let's break these. Um let's break these cycles. Let's let's please.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, this is amazing.
SPEAKER_06That just gave me PTSD. I'm mad. I asked that question. That just gave me PTSD. I felt all y'all's pain.
SPEAKER_07It's great entertainment.
SPEAKER_06Jeez, Louise.
SPEAKER_07Everybody understands it's old, it's in the past, it ain't happening right now. Ain't nobody getting beat right now.
SPEAKER_06Man, but I'm you know what, and on a serious note, I'm glad we are all able to sit and joke and and yeah, kiki about it because once again, healing, breaking cycles. Um, that that's that's healthy. I feel like talking about being transparent, that's that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_07That's a great thing, and that's what this show is for transparency, the uses, the uses, yes, the uses. Well, y'all, we're being abrupt right now. Y'all know what time it is. It's about that time to get on at this thing. Yeah, but I do appreciate every single body in the chat. Every single body, yeah. They're human bodies. Oh, every single body.
SPEAKER_06We still we still working on proper English.
SPEAKER_07Okay, well, every single people's in the chat. I appreciate every single people's. I appreciate you. You've done some well. Good stories, though. Good stories, and please, I hope y'all heal in other places, yes, in your life with other relationships, so we can all grow and elevate in life because literally that's all this is really about for real.
SPEAKER_06I love you too, cousin. I'm trying to learn how to do the heart hands. I think I got it.
SPEAKER_07Well, it's kind of hard to do when your hands are extra small in glove and mitten size. Yes, and Mama Crushville is saved now. Yeah, saved from your butt wood.
SPEAKER_06Yes, yes. Well, no, this was good. Um, I this was healthy, yeah. I feel this is um also we always want to just be very transparent with y'all. Like I said, it's like y'all sitting here in our room with us, just having a conversation, like just you know, safe space.
SPEAKER_07Don't forget your homework, America. Go to the page. It is you plus me equals us on Facebook. Follow that. We will be on there next week. Yes, we are no longer gonna be on Evan Curry Facebook, we will be on you plus me equals us. Yes, go right now, do your homework right immediately. Please don't forget, we'll still be live on YouTube too, but we are just switching the Facebook page. Okay, do your homework, all right? Or you will be on punishment and okay.
SPEAKER_06No, we're breaking that cycle.
SPEAKER_07Yes, I forgot about it breaking cycles.
SPEAKER_06See how fast we should we forget.
SPEAKER_07Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Well, episode nine in the books.
SPEAKER_05That was great.
SPEAKER_07Book is closed.
SPEAKER_05That was great.
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SPEAKER_06I mean, I mean, yes, as I say every week, we appreciate y'all. Um, this is this is like the highlight of my week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06To sit and talk with my best friend in the whole world besides Jesus. Um, and just do what I love, just to talk about relationships and talk about love. And I look forward to y'all. I look forward every week to see who's gonna join in the chat. It's always a great conversation. Um, but like you said, we'll see you guys next week. Tune in 7 30 live on YouTube and our Facebook page. Y'all see it right here. You plus me equals us.
SPEAKER_07With that being said, we will see y'all next week. Peace.