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Why She Didn't Want To Have Another Baby w/ Ayla Woodruff
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This week we have Ayla Woodruff on the podcast! We talk all things from her finding out she was pregnant and engaged in the same week to her 3 rules that had to happen before having another baby! This was such a fun episode to film, we hope you enjoy!
I feel like it was a mix of exciting and also a little loneliness. Pregnancy cravings taste like when you get high. Being pregnant is just like you just go through so much that you're like, I don't want to go through that again at all.
SPEAKER_06I was getting spied on.
SPEAKER_04And it was like three in the morning or something, and Carol comes home with some girl, and I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_03I like I literally feel like your mom just caught.
SPEAKER_07What advice would you give us as new parents?
SPEAKER_04I feel like the best advice I learned. Hi baby.
SPEAKER_03Today you are 32 weeks old.
SPEAKER_04And my baby is 25 weeks old.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh. Ayla, welcome to the podcast.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_07This is crazy. We have our first uh pregnant mother on the podcast.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, second. Oh no, you're the only you're the only pregnant one that's been on here. Thank you. Excited.
SPEAKER_07Very excited to have you.
SPEAKER_03We were really excited to have you on because we wanted to know your experience. Obviously, you were the first mom of this group.
SPEAKER_07First mom of the friend group.
SPEAKER_03And you know, you kind of got the ball rolling, I feel like. Yeah, I guess I did.
SPEAKER_04I feel like it just all happened so I mean I can't believe I'm already on baby number two. It's kind of crazy. I know.
SPEAKER_07I have two questions around that. Okay. Okay. Because obviously you're the first mother in the friend group. Yeah. Number one, how was it being the only for a while? And then the next question I have is how happy are you now that everyone's having kids as well?
SPEAKER_04Okay, so first question was how did I feel basically?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, how was it like being the only mother in the friend group for about a year, right?
SPEAKER_04I feel like it was a mix of exciting and also a little loneliness because be not only was I the first in like our friend group, but I was kind of the first with my other friends as well. And I think especially being in LA, everyone kind of has babies a little bit later down the line. You know, it's like career first.
SPEAKER_07That's something I've been noticing telling people. Like I'm telling people that are like in their 30s and like, oh, you're having a baby already. I'm like, already?
SPEAKER_04I'm like, I don't feel like I'm that's no, that should be common. And if you like, I feel like if you go to other states, it is people are like already on their fourth. Yeah. No, but here everyone travels, they focus on work. It's like a social you know, social life, I feel like. But um, so it did feel a little lonely at times because I didn't really have anyone to turn to.
SPEAKER_03I had like a few, but no one to give you a like advice or like be like I I bet like friends checked in on you, but it's not the same as like it's not the same. Like when you guys check on me, I'm like you guys are coming from a place of like I know what it's like, not like, oh hey, how are you doing?
SPEAKER_04I don't know what you're feeling, but I hope you're okay. And also it's kind of like people can sit there. Wait, I do have to talk about I look at it. Sorry. I had in and out before I sat down, and there is not one time I can eat now without getting something on my stomach. So the baby was a little hungry too.
SPEAKER_07You know what? You know what's even funnier about that? Right before you got here, Natalie spilled some on her white shirt.
SPEAKER_03Because mine's on apart that I don't want to flash you know.
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna spill something.
SPEAKER_04Well, after this, we're finishing our burgers. I'm gonna see a spill.
SPEAKER_07That's so funny.
SPEAKER_04Um, okay, anyway.
SPEAKER_07So nobody look at that. If you guys are watching, don't look at the stain. Act like it's not there.
SPEAKER_04Um, so yeah, overall, exciting, a little lonely, but now with the second baby, I am not only so excited to go through the process again because like I know what it feels like. I'm not scared, I'm not nervous. I'm like I'm ready to actually enjoy, and not saying I didn't enjoy my pregnancy, but I'm ready to like enjoy even postpartum and everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, and I'm just like so I'm just over the moon that everyone wants to have babies.
SPEAKER_03And like even the people that aren't pregnant, like David was on here and he was like, I want a mark. David was talking about having a baby.
SPEAKER_04You just don't understand how amazing life is. And there's a lot that comes with having a baby, so obviously do it when you're ready. But I just I love my life so much being a mom. Like I genuinely wouldn't oh my god, I'm just so grateful. Yeah, well, yeah. I love it so much, and so I can't wait for everyone else to experience what I'm feeling. Um, but also no, there's hard times. Like, I don't like when people I don't like when moms are like, oh my god, it's the best thing ever. It's like so easy. You just bring him along or her along, whatever.
SPEAKER_00It's like no, it's never that easy.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, the first year was hard for us, I would say. Okay. I was just gonna ask, like, what is the biggest difference that you've noticed from like your first pregnancy with Coase to like your second pregnancy now? Like, is it the same or craving different things, right?
SPEAKER_04Even craving, not really. I feel like I don't really get those super big cravings that most women do. Like, there's days when I'm like, ooh, that sounds pretty good. Like last night I told Coast, I was like, Do you want to try whipped cream? And he's like, he's never tried whipped cream before. No, and he's like, way. Because I he doesn't say yeah. You guys know that he says way. Yeah. So he's like, way. And I'm like, all right, let's go to the grocery store. So we got strawberries and whipped cream, and I was like, all right, after dinner, we can have strawberries and whipped cream. And I was like, oh my god, I have a little buddy that just can eat all my like your cravings with eating heat. And he is like, what are you doing? I'm like, we're eating strawberries and whipped cream, and Coast just kept opening his mouth and I kept squirting whipped cream in his mouth.
SPEAKER_02And it was so like, Mom, you've waited all this time.
SPEAKER_04I know. So, like, just things like that. You know, I I obviously I get like moments of craving certain foods. The the orange juice. I always want a glass of orange juice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know what it I feel like whenever we talk about.
SPEAKER_04I think hers is a little stronger. I remember her telling me she felt like it was like life or death.
SPEAKER_07Oh, she was eating like she was like eating like five oranges a day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, I'm not like that.
SPEAKER_07Just okay, okay. This is before we knew she was pregnant too. We probably should have known something was up. She's like up out of nowhere. She was always grabbing oranges and she'd have like four or five every single time. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I was in like a vitamin C deficit or something. My body was like more, more and more. Yeah, I feel. But I mean, like, even like, do you have any bad, like, or not bad symptoms, but like the ones that are like annoying? Were they the same this time around?
SPEAKER_04Or yeah, I thought I was having a girl because my first trimester I was just so nauseous. And with Coast, I wasn't. I threw up one time. Do you throw up twice or once? I remember throwing up one time in New York. I drank an almond milk latte, and I the baby just did not want almond milk, and so I grew up right after that. Um, but with Coast, I was just more like tired and I had like a lot of cramping. I think my body was like, How do we make room here? And I actually like TMI but like bled a lot with my first one. Yeah, um, which was scary because I was always at the doctor's being like, Am I okay? And she's like, Yeah, you're just your body's trying to expand for this baby. That's crazy. You're the first person that's told me that they've like bled like that. Oh yeah. I had like four like episodes of bleeding that I was like, oh my god, did I just lose the baby?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I that would terrify me if I saw blood right now. I'd be like, we need to go to the hospital.
SPEAKER_07So so how um how big was Coast when he was born? Was he pretty regular size? Six percent. Because you're obviously a a very small person. Ayl's the smallest person in our group. 4'10. 4'11. 4'11. Okay, so I'm pretty sure. 4'11.
SPEAKER_02You can know better. I understand it too. I get it.
SPEAKER_07If someone if someone said I'm 5'7, I'd be like, no, I'm 5'8. I get it. I get it. Sorry. 4'11. It was 4'11. 4'11 and shrinking. Was that a uh like a concern of yours when you were like planning to get it?
SPEAKER_04My mom's 4'11. Okay. And she had four kids. So I knew I could do it.
SPEAKER_07She had like complications, or it was like No. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Hers were fine. And some of them like came out like I remember well, I mean some of those feet, some of those seven.
SPEAKER_07Some of those kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_04No, I was five pounds when I came out, so I was small. Okay. I was five pounds, eleven ounces. I think my sister was six, and then my my brothers were both seven. I think one was almost pushing eight. Seven is like the normal, right? Like the average. Seven is like very average. Um so I think actually it was either Trevor or Blake, one of them was eight. But um, and she did it all, she did it with all four, so I knew that like my body can do it. Yeah. But with Coast, he was six pounds, I think six pounds, seven ounces, something like that. And with this baby, I've already been to the doctor, and she's like, uh, this is a bigger baby. This one is growing. And I was like, wait, why is he growing so much?
SPEAKER_03This one's crazy. Yeah. Have you asked like other moms that like have on their second pregnancy if that's also normal with them?
SPEAKER_04Or is that just like it's just dependent on the baby? I mean, there I think it's like there's two different factors. One is like obviously how much you're eating, and I'm not eating a lot. Like I'm eating normal amounts.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like I'm still eating more than when we were together. I was like, you honestly didn't give me like pregnant woman eating vibes.
SPEAKER_04I swear I have the same like cravings and like appetite as I do normally. Yeah. I will say with this one, it's funny, like, because when I'm not pregnant, I only want savory things. With with when I'm pregnant, I'm like, I could eat a Twix bar, and I'm like, Whoa, that's crazy. Like, I would never buy a Twix bar in my life. Like, just to like have. Yeah. You know, but so why is that?
SPEAKER_07Is that the baby's craving those certain things? Or what it like, where do those cravings stem from?
SPEAKER_04People say, like, oh, it's the baby wants it, so it's okay. I genuinely think like it's just your hormones has heightened your appetite.
SPEAKER_07That's Natalie blaming it all on the baby. She's like, I'm eating this for the baby.
SPEAKER_04Right, yeah, right, yeah. That's what I tell you. The baby wants me to eat in and out. I know. Yeah, but it's hard to explain, especially to guys, like how great it feels to eat food that you want. Like, eating fruit to me while I'm pregnant is like She told me.
SPEAKER_07I mean, if you want to say how you described it.
SPEAKER_03I said, I mean, like, I don't know if you've ever smoked weed. I don't think my parents know that I've ever smoked weed, but they watch this podcast. But I said pregnancy cravings taste like when you get high and then you go eat, and how every like you get that first bite, and you're just like, Yeah, holy shit, this tastes so good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, I would say, like, I have, yeah, I've tried weed, it's not my thing. Um I get extremely paranoid, so I think I've probably done it three times in my life, and I would say, yeah, out of those three times, the only positive thing about it is.
SPEAKER_03And that's what I'm saying. I'm like, if I feel like more people will be able to rate relate to that because like probably more people out there smoke weed. Yeah. Um, and when that is the closest way I could say to like someone who doesn't. Because like you try salivating at the thought. Imagine how hard that would be every day.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I I would eat. I also try like you can, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but I I'm not never like rude to her about like wanting. I'm always like, okay, baby, if you want it, let's get it. So I get it, because I understand, like, if I was in the same position, I'd probably want to eat it all. Right. Yeah. I get that. Especially when she put it that way.
SPEAKER_03We can just get it for you if you want.
SPEAKER_07I don't smoke anymore, but when I used to smoke back in the day, sorry, mom and dad, when I was younger, I used to eat like I would eat like three times in like three hours. Yeah, yeah. Three different meals. Yeah. So I get it.
SPEAKER_03So and it would be crazy things.
SPEAKER_07That's a great way to put it. That's what I'm saying. Like something I was you'd be in the kitchen if you've got to be able to get the phone.
SPEAKER_03I'll never have like uh peanut butter with chips and like you warm it up a bit.
SPEAKER_07You know the um one of the things that you give kids for school, the lunchables? I would put the Oreo in the lunchable when I'm tired. Like stuff like that. So I get it. Honestly, being pregnant is just like being moved.
SPEAKER_05And we figured it out.
SPEAKER_07We figured it out.
SPEAKER_00Okay, great.
SPEAKER_07Awesome.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um, well, another question I wanted to ask you is I know with this pregnancy, well, were you and Keen trying? Or was it something that like I know that you kind of like touched on this, but I I wasn't sure if it was like I know you guys were like Wait, with this one? Yeah, with number two. And we were talking about it, but I wasn't sure if like when the time you found out you guys were like on the like, okay, we're trying right now.
SPEAKER_04No, so with this one, we basically like I had three rules before we got pregnant again. Because Kean wanted another baby. Like, yes. Like he wanted it, like the second coach was born, he's like, Okay, I want another. Like he was so ready. Does he want like a really big family? Or it's like, I think if we lived in like a perfect world, he would love to have a big family, but we both work and like we both have we we both want to always be able to give all of our attention to our kids when they want it. And I think like just adding so many kids in there, sometimes you get lost with like who would I pay attention to today? You know? So I don't think we want to overwhelm ourselves. If we ever did a big family, it'd be three max.
SPEAKER_07Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I we wouldn't go to four.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, we've had this conversation a lot, and we want at least two. Yeah, but I I said after that, I would love to have up to four, but I told her, like, she's the one who has to have the actual baby.
SPEAKER_04I think also people say these things and then you don't have to be able to do it.
SPEAKER_07Oh, true, I've never been I've never been a parent, you're right.
SPEAKER_04So you need to like emulate a lot of thank you.
SPEAKER_07Okay, but I'm only coming from the perspective of I grew up with four siblings and I loved it.
SPEAKER_04Same.
SPEAKER_07So I'm coming from that.
SPEAKER_04But I also And then I also now know that I'm like, what was my mom thinking? She's nuts, you know. Like, I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I think for me, I I mean she was an only child, so she experienced that. I would want at least two, obviously, Lord willing, because I think it would be nice for them to have a sibling. Oh, yeah. But I think after that, I think we're gonna decide as we depending on that moment, you know. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03I told Crawford I said, let me go through labor once and then I'll give you an update.
SPEAKER_07To be fair, if we go through this labor and she's like, I'm never doing that again, I would respect that.
SPEAKER_04I would be that yeah, you will say that. And then during labor, I'm not going through it. No, literally, I I I want to say that, you know, I don't know if there's like a statistic out there, but I want to say probably eight out of ten moms are probably like, I'm never doing that again.
SPEAKER_07Like right after?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That means makes sense. I mean it makes horrible.
SPEAKER_04Like you're and not even just like the birth and everything, but it's like the the postpartum. You just go through so much that you're like, I don't want to go through that again. It sucks.
SPEAKER_03And then you think about like, I mean Oh my god, I just it's I know that because I when I talk to you about it, it's I I'm like, dang, if I went through because you had a harder first labor. Yeah. I'm like, if I went through what Ayla went through, I don't know if I would want a second, because knowing like I would have that possibility again, I would be like, oh no, no, no, that's too scary.
SPEAKER_07No, but it's just a C-section with with ghosts.
SPEAKER_04Uh it's so worth it. Like he's everything to me, and like times like whatever is the most number in the world. Like, I I genuinely love him. I love him more than I love myself myself. I love him more. I love him so much that it's hard to compute into words like the like the way he makes me feel. Like, I don't feel like I had a life worth like living without it. Like he gave me this purpose. Sorry, that was a horrible thing to say. Of course I had a life worth living. Oh yeah. No, but you get I get a second sense of purpose in life. It's just insane the way that if you know, motherhood can change you and make you feel like I'm just I I want I want another one because of how he's made me feel as a mother. Like I and watching him grow up, I mean like he just learned how to I saw the potty training. He's like, Yup, he's potty trained. He the other day he swam by himself for the first time. Like and watching him do all these things is just so cool. Like he I just love it.
SPEAKER_03So he's doing them all for the first time, which is so cool. Did that like hit instantly? Like from from like the day you were in labor and Coast was born to now, like when did that like I want more of you and like more kids like hit right away?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because you said right away you didn't like you're like, I don't want another kid, like right after, obviously.
SPEAKER_04So I would say I I'm also a very kind of like realistic person. I know that if I'm not feeling great, throwing something in there is not gonna help the situation, like I need to work on myself first. And I went through a pretty bad postpartum stage of like I would say the first six months of having Coast. Um I think I just had a really bad birth. My recovery was hard. Me and Kian were both on the same page as like how we wanted to raise Coast and stuff, except I was a little bit more lenient with things, and he was a little like type A? I don't even know. There's gotta be some type A plus plus plus out there because he was like everything he had to measure precise because babies can't have too much water.
SPEAKER_07Oh, so he was like down to like down to the T.
SPEAKER_04Like to the T. And if and if it was a little, he would syringe some out. Like he would be, you know, taking the thermometer in there. If I'm like, no, it's fine, just put it like on your, you know, just check it. Yeah, or like put it in your mouth and drink some. He's like, No, no, no, I need thermometer in there. I'm like, And you have to feed them every like two to three hours. So he's doing this every two to three hours.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you're like, okay. Yeah, I think we're curious how like who's gonna be like that. She thinks it's me.
SPEAKER_03Before we got pregnant, I always thought that I was gonna be like Taipei one, but honestly, I think it's gonna be crazy.
SPEAKER_07I think it's gonna be her still. I'm pretty easygoing. You never know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Crawford, come on.
SPEAKER_07Okay, she disagrees.
SPEAKER_03After every talk we've had, you said you thought he's always been the one that's like no. And I'm like, okay, but like, and he's like Natalie. Yeah, no, and I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_04I think it's just like a shock to some dads because maybe it is me.
SPEAKER_07Maybe I'm gonna be the yeah.
SPEAKER_04It might. I mean, when Coast came, I don't think Kean has I mean, I mean, I didn't feel like this kind of love either, but Kean has never felt something so in you know, him, like the things that are important to him are like so he has such a small circle of like things that are important to him. He doesn't really care about a lot of outside stuff.
SPEAKER_07It's like you know very to himself, very to himself.
SPEAKER_04And then this human comes into the world and he's like, I oh my god, like I would do anything for this person. Like and you could see it in his face. Like he was just and oh my god, like every single second he's like thinking about this baby. He's like checking the baby if it's breathing, and he wants to hold the baby, he wants to wake up with me at night with the baby, like he wants to feed the baby, you know. I mean, he was like, Okay, like I want to make sure I can be a part of it because like I don't have a boob, so like what can I do?
SPEAKER_03You know, it's like I think that that's crazy too because I feel like when like you're like he's so type A sometimes, yeah. You it's like you're you're annoyed, but you also you can't be annoyed because you know it's coming from such like a good place of love. Such a place of love. It is.
SPEAKER_07Well, I was saying too, like, you know, I I've known Keen a long time. I live with Keen. Um not that never that I would say he'd be a bad dad, but I was really like impressed with how he really just like came into his own as a father. And this is honestly inspired me to be like, okay, like he's such a good dad. Inspired me to be a better dad. But it was cool to see him, like, not that he was immature, but you know how Keen can be. Yeah, he's a he's a goofy guy, he's funny, and then just to see him like be serious and take it very seriously and and be very good at it, um, was was inspiring to me. So it was very good.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I always knew he was gonna be a good dad. I that's like one of the reasons I was with him is because I always was looking for someone who was gonna be a like.
SPEAKER_05I think I saw that in him earlier, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And obviously, Kean is like a certain way with his friends, you know? Yeah, but when it's just me and Kean, like I saw so much of like a father figure in him that he he wanted something to love. He really had so much love to give a human, and I could see how he like loved my dogs and also how he like respected his mom and things like that, and how he treated me, even if like we got in a fight or something. He just was so everything came from love and care, and I'm like, that's gonna be a good thing. You know, I knew.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so what were the three rules?
SPEAKER_00Oh, oh wait, yeah, you said I wanted wear and never done.
SPEAKER_07We're here to get it.
SPEAKER_04Um, the three rules were we needed a house. We already lived in a house, but that house Kean had purchased before I moved into it. So it was kind of like Kean's home because he picked it out and he he got that house. I wanted us to go into something together. So I was like, we need a house together.
SPEAKER_03I also feel like with a second, that house was just gonna like all your dogs and everything. You guys needed like a uh not a downsize, the opposite of that, an upsize. Yeah, we did. We did the upsized, yeah. Because Coast had his own room there, but you wouldn't gonna need a fourth room at another point, right?
SPEAKER_04We yeah, we did have a fourth room in the other house, but we were using it, yeah. We were using it for like an office and stuff like that. So we wanted to like, you know, kind of upsize the house. And I always like, you know, I'd been saving up my whole life to buy a house, and I really wanted to like own my own home as well. So I was like, I want to do this together. Um, and so I was like, we have to have a house. I need to have one summer of I like need a hot curl summer. Yeah, I don't want to be pregnant. Yeah. And the thing is, is like I already had had a summer technically of with Coast of not being pregnant, but it you're still going through like your postpartum and it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, postpartum takes a long, a lot longer than most people think, and it's so different for everyone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Isn't like like your body goes through like a big change postpartum, like getting back to normal, right?
SPEAKER_04Because all like it takes nine months to create this baby and birth it. Yeah, you can't just snap back like that.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, it takes it's gonna take nine months for your body to heal, and that's just the bare minimum.
SPEAKER_03You also had a C section, so that takes out a C section. A whole different toll than like if you were to do like a natural like
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03Typical vaginal birth.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So I think it was just it was a lot of stuff all mixed together. And I feel like I just wanted to have a summer where I felt good because I would say two years is when I finally felt like myself. I was like, oh, I'm Ayla's back. Like she's here. Six months is when you get that first little wave of like, okay, I'm feeling a little like my hormones are somewhat kind of leveling out. One year, you think you're back, but you're not there yet. And then two years, you're like, oh, she's back.
SPEAKER_07I'm back.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So do you think it'll be um like going through that all over again? Or do you think now that's your second time you kind of know going into this next pregnancy, like kind of how to bounce back quicker?
SPEAKER_04I know. Oh, wait. I have to finish. Okay, let's go.
SPEAKER_07I was like, I think it's a good thing. That's my bad. We gotta okay. Finish the third rule for the game.
SPEAKER_04I need people on. Okay. So it was a house, it was having a hot girl summer, and it was getting engaged.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_03And I see the ring.
SPEAKER_07Ooh. Well, it's hard not to see it.
SPEAKER_04I'm not gonna get it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07Can you can you hide that? Because I listen, that's I can't afford that. You gotta give an idea.
SPEAKER_04We have to put it out there. Yeah. No. This is what you're working for.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. No, we had a some people felt the type of way in our our episode we talked about because we did like a segment where we did like a dream wedding. We were doing dream wedding. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03And people thought I was serious about like this $150,000 ring.
SPEAKER_07Okay, here and here's what I'll say. People took it as like she's only gonna do it if we had that. Obviously, if I you know strike it rich, I'm killing it. I'd be more than happy to do all that stuff. But you know what? But it's not like we have a lot of people. And you know that shows me the standards.
SPEAKER_03Yeah standards.
SPEAKER_04I mean, listen, I waited how many years has it been now? Seven and a half. I waited a long time for this one.
SPEAKER_07That's true.
SPEAKER_04And the kid. Wait, yeah.
SPEAKER_07If you wait seven and a half years, you could get this. You could get that. But if you don't, if you don't want to wait seven and a half years, it might be a little smaller.
SPEAKER_04Every year it gets a little bigger.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, every year it gets a little bigger. Okay. It's like uh inflation. Yeah. That's funny.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and then I feel like all of that happened. Well, the reason we agreed to have a baby when we did is because we had already gone ring shopping. We had had the house, we had had my hot girl summer.
SPEAKER_03So you knew that it was coming.
SPEAKER_04I knew the ring was coming, and he had told me, he was like, I'm because I asked him, I was like, listen, just time like time-wise, I want to know, are you gonna propose to me by before the end of the year? Or are we gonna bring this over to next year? And he's like, No, I definitely am gonna propose to you before the end of this year. I was like, okay, then we can talk about baby.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because I feel like a lot of people are like, why like like those are things that like you should just expect your like partner to know? But I love talking about that to like Crawford and like knowing like when things are happening. Like, I am the kind of girl that would want to go ring shopping too. Like, I don't want you to just kind of like we're both Virgos. That's yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_07Do you want to serve like a very specific way? So if I went and bought that vodka.
SPEAKER_03I feel like the communication.
SPEAKER_07Wait, you guys, we haven't touched on this. You guys have the same birthday.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah!
SPEAKER_07The exact same birthday.
SPEAKER_03We are born on the exact same day. I remember when I that's so when I met Ayla. Well, no, like like the fourth time I met you was when you hosted that like 4th of July barbecue. Yeah. During your hot girl summer. During my hot girl summer. And we were talking about signs, and you were like, You were going. I was like, Oh, what day? And then you said the 25th, and I was like, oh my god, yeah. I know.
SPEAKER_07I was like, oh, I knew I liked you. We started talking when I was still living in the backhouse. Yeah at Keene's place.
SPEAKER_03Ayla was the first person to discover their relationship. You actually Ayla was always that's like it was Keen.
SPEAKER_07Hey, Crawford, what's up with this girl?
SPEAKER_04It was Keen because he was like, Ayla, check this out. Because we had a ring. Oh, he got the ring, bro. And he was like, and I was like, what?
SPEAKER_06I was getting spied on.
SPEAKER_04And it was like three in the morning or something, and Cropper comes home with some girl, and I was like, oh my god. No, Ayla was like out there. I'm like, did she leave yet? And he was like, No, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna stand outside. And I'm gonna wait for her to leave. She did.
SPEAKER_03This is what it was so funny to get a good look at her because it was like, it literally honestly looked like a booty call. Like it really just. Honestly, it wasn't a good look. Because we had we the the night before we had gone to like this also wasn't our first time hanging out, guys.
SPEAKER_07Don't worry.
SPEAKER_03This wasn't her first time hanging out, but it was our first time.
SPEAKER_07I think my first time I brought her back to the to my place.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it wasn't my first time going back to Crawford's, and we had come from a night out, so like of course I was in like this like mini dress. Like you were out at night and I had to be. I had like tall boots on, and I was like feeling myself. Yeah, I didn't and I wasn't expecting to go home with Crawford, so when we wake up the next morning, I have to put back on my mini dress.
SPEAKER_07Like mom was catching us because she was like in the summer, like, so hey, who knows how you guys do.
SPEAKER_03All of a sudden I opened this door and I feel like, hey, good morning. And I'm like, who the heck is and I see Ayla and I'm like, I like I literally feel like your mom just caught me.
SPEAKER_04I think I even like probably was like, I don't know, was I holding coast too?
SPEAKER_03You were you were holding coast and the dogs were about, and I was just like, and you introduced yourself. It wasn't like I tried to get out of there as fast as possible, but Ayla was like, No, I'm Alain. Nice to meet you.
SPEAKER_04And I was like, hi, I'm Natalie. Yeah, because I was so curious. I'm like, I need to know. Well, you know, it's like part half our house. So who is in my house? You know, you were getting back out there again. Um, and you were just like not getting back out there just to like bring anyone, like you hadn't brought anybody home.
SPEAKER_07That's why you that's why you were so like on it because you brought someone home. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and so I had to see because I knew it was important, and I was like, this isn't just somebody. This is this is clearly.
SPEAKER_07No, I thought it was so funny.
SPEAKER_03I remember after we like, I don't even remember I think I blacked out talking to you because I remember walking to my car with Crawford after, and I was like, holy shit, she probably thinks that I was just like your one night. I mean, I literally went to Crawford and said, look at me right now.
SPEAKER_07He's no, no, no, but I thought of the same thing. Like it wasn't like I was bringing people home all the time. That's why you were like, Oh, oh my gosh, Crawford bugs.
SPEAKER_04I went in, I think I went in later that day or the next day. I was like, So, what are you gonna like? I just needed to know. I was like, So are you taking her out? What's the vibe? And you know, Carver's like, no, no, no. Like, he doesn't like to talk about things. And I'm I'm always just like itching to go in there, and I'm just like crying. Yeah, I know. You were like I want to know T.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, I know. I was like, oh my god, she's gonna just like think this. But I didn't think there. I didn't. Obviously, I kept coming around, so I got to like know you more, and then you like extended the invite for 4th of July, and that's when I really got I literally just dived in. I met you and ever all of the other girls.
SPEAKER_01You met everybody, yeah. Yeah, it was great.
SPEAKER_03So it was crazy. I'm so glad it was like. I forgot I sometimes forget about you.
SPEAKER_07Me too, very much so.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I get so excited. Yeah, it was great. Um, wow, that just threw me. I was I forgot that that even happened.
SPEAKER_07Honestly, and I forgot that that happened. That was hilarious, actually.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah. Good memory. Well, um, I just kind of wanted to go in too because I know that you guys were kind of like, you know, you guys were trying, or like you guys were like not opposed to getting pregnant because you knew the thing.
SPEAKER_04We tried like like specifically tried on the days I was ovulating. Like we were on point with this baby. Like we wanted to. Yeah, I used flow and basically it can like track your ovulation. And you know, again, we had spoken about like okay, the base the reason why we did it when we did is because we kind of came to the realization that if I got pregnant during the time we were trying, then this baby would be born in July, my birthday's in August, Keen's birthday's in September, and Coast's birthday's in October. So we were like, wouldn't that be cool? Oh, just like everyone in a line. Everyone in a line. I was like, let's let's go for it. That's crazy. And so we really, I'm not even kidding you.
SPEAKER_07We had Wait, did it line up perfectly? Like, yeah, oh wow. It did.
SPEAKER_04And but we had no idea what was actually gonna happen the way like we really thought, like, oh, once you start trying again, you probably have to like try a few times. Not gonna like click the first time.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh no. I'm so apparently very fertile after giving birth. And she even told me when I gave birth, she's like, be careful, because you could get pregnant very easily. And so when we took the test, Kean genuinely was like, Why are we taking this? Like, it's not gonna be it. And I was like, I don't think it either, but I need to get this out of my head. And so we took it and it was positive. And then we were so shocked, like ecstatic because it worked. Yeah, yeah. But also, I didn't know that Kean was proposing to me that same week.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's what I wanted to talk about out of the top.
SPEAKER_04Panic attack right now. He's like, hold on a second. Like it all kind of dealing with that right now. Wait a minute, yeah. Yeah, so it's funny because in the video that I posted, he just kind of like falls to the floor, like, oh my god, I can't believe it worked.
SPEAKER_07And you didn't know he was proposing that week.
SPEAKER_04I knew it was coming, but I didn't know it was that weak.
SPEAKER_07It couldn't be, you know, at any point until And then didn't you have like no alcohol and like people found out later you didn't have alcohol and like the announcement you guys were having like sparkling apple juice or something? Did I see that?
SPEAKER_04Oh well, it's funny because like people kind of caught on to that. Like we were having sparkling apple juice, but actually at Pepperdine University, you just can't have alcohol. Yeah, you're not always even if I wasn't pregnant, you're not allowed to have that on the grass.
SPEAKER_07Gotcha, got you.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I know like also, like people are how would you even spot that?
SPEAKER_07Like, zoom in.
SPEAKER_03People are crazy. I know.
SPEAKER_07What was even crazier too? Well, not even crazier, but just funny along along that is obviously we found out what how how much longer did we find out? It was a couple weeks after. But no, you guys knew for a while. You guys knew for a while, actually. Wait, no, we told you or no, like between when you found out and you told everybody, how long was that?
SPEAKER_03You guys waited till the end of the first trimester, right?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because there's quite a bit of time, actually.
SPEAKER_04I always we always wait. So yeah, we waited at least until I think he was 13 or 14 weeks.
SPEAKER_03Like the first week of March or something. It had to be or like February. Yeah, I don't remember exactly when. Oh no, wait, no, January. Because we celebrated Valentine's together and we knew we were pregnant.
SPEAKER_07So that's well basically what I was saying is it was funny because you guys invited us to the like the dinner slash brunch that you guys were having at the house, and I couldn't go because I I was back home in Canada seeing my family. This was what we found out. That is when I found out that like we found out we were pregnant. Yeah, like she called me and she's like, babe, like I'm pregnant like right now. So I'm freaking out. And then of course she goes to the the thing because I couldn't make it.
SPEAKER_03Ayla, like the week before had invited us, and she's like, I just want to spend time with you guys, like come over for brunch. And obviously, you don't think anything of that, like, like a New Year's brunch. It literally was like three days after I found out, so I was like really emotional, and I hadn't told anyone yet. And I walk into Ayla and Keen's house, and they have like these like pink and blue balloons. Yeah. And like Keen's filming me, and I'm like, what's going on? And then you're like staring at me, and I'm like, I'm like, are you pregnant? And I start crying when you say yes because I was holding in so much emotion. I was like, no. And you're like, are you crying in the video? And I was like, Yeah, I'm just so happy for you. Trying to like in my head, I'm like, holy fuck, holy fuck, holy fuck, how is this like happening to me right now? And everyone was like celebrating like um your gender reveal. And in my head, uh like Chelsea made a comment that day. She was like, I feel like someone else here is pregnant. She did, she said that. Yeah, she's like, I didn't even hear that. She probably didn't mean it, but she's just like saying, like, everybody should get pregnant. And I was just sitting there like And Ayla, you know what's funny about this?
SPEAKER_07All while this is happening back home, and I'm freaking out about to tell my family, my whole family is talking about having kids. Like, who's having a kid first? My mom's like, I feel like my mom brought up a dinner. She's like, if one of you guys were pregnant, you would tell us, right? So I thought she knew. My mom has great intuition, like always has.
SPEAKER_04Well, I was thinking she was probably targeting it towards your sister, because she's like, Okay, y'all are married, like, let's get it.
SPEAKER_07She was throwing a nut out there trying to get you know, yeah see who who was like, you know, who's gonna take the bait, but all weekend they're asking my sisters, my brother, even my dad was like, Crawford, what about you? Like, I want a grandson or a grandchild, sorry.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Um, so well, it's probably gonna be oh, well, it is.
SPEAKER_04It is a grandson, we only have boys in this friend group.
SPEAKER_07But it's so funny because like all while she's freaking out, and everyone's like, You guys are having a baby, we find out, which is super awesome. Obviously, the fact that we're having a baby around the same time, we're very excited about. But uh, that's happening back home, and then where I'm at, everyone's talking about it too. So we both were kind of like freaking out, right? Yeah, how are we not gonna tell someone right now?
SPEAKER_03Well, I just thought about it this morning too. I said our babies will be the closest in age. Like, our kids could like be in the same class eventually, which is like crazy for me to think about, which is like also so fun that like we're so close. Yeah, I'm like holy like our kids could actually be like friends in class. I'm like, that's so cool. That's it's I I can't even think about that because to me that seems so far, but I know like to you, that's like it comes fast. Like, Coast is almost ready to go to school. I know he's going to school soon. Yeah, he's going to school this year. That's so insane to me. I feel like when even when I met you, Coast was still like a baby.
SPEAKER_04I feel like we've hit so many big milestones this year specifically with him. And it's just crazy how like so many big things are happening with him. And I'm so grateful that like we're having this baby at the time we are because I really feel like we got to enjoy Coast for him. We got to see him grow. We got to like go through these big steps with him. He's now like able to kind of you know, he can go and get a snack himself. He can literally can turn on the DV, he knows how to do things, he reads books to himself, he's capable of like taking care of like his needs if I need to like feed the baby real quick. And I'm just I don't know, I feel so excited and happy that like it's all trickled down into like this timeline, and then I get to have a baby around the time you guys are, and it it'll just be fun to to like banter back and forth about like so what's going on today with you guys?
SPEAKER_03You know? Oh my gosh. No, I when I look at Cosim, like he's at he's like at such a fun age now. Like Kian just made that like water thing, and I was like, he's he actually understands like what she had built and like the fact that he's like this has water and I'm gonna run through it. Like it's like they are so much more like I think kids are so much more aware than people give them credit. Yeah, and babies in general.
SPEAKER_04He's so smart. Yeah, but I love him so much it hurts my heart.
SPEAKER_07Crazy. I love him. No, we can't wait, man. We're excited. Um, okay, let me ask you this. We're about to be new parents, obviously. What is like one piece of advice you'll give us? If you had like one like the best advice you were given or you've learned, what advice would you give us as new parents?
SPEAKER_04I feel like the best advice I learned, because everybody wants to give you advice, is listen to your baby.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04Like everyone's gonna say, Oh, feed them like this, sleep train like this, don't give them foods that have the like just a lot of advice. Just you know, don't do formula do or whatever it is. And I think that what's hard is you feel so much pressure as a parent to do what you think is right or what other parents think is right, and you know, the most important thing is that you worry about your baby because every baby is different. And if your baby is not ready to eat solid foods yet, or your baby is having a difficult time sleeping, or like refusing breast milk, or whatever it is, just uh listen to what is working with your child, uh communicate with your partner because of time, you know, a lot of times, like being a parent, there can be frustrating things with your child, and you don't mean to take it out on your partner, but like life just gets stressful in the house, and you create like you know, you almost feel like at some point like you guys are just like roommates because you're just focusing so much on this baby, yeah. And then by the time you two are together, all you want to do is like sleep and rest. You kind of go to your own corners, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I think as long as you can uh communicate with your partner, just love and listen to your baby, everything will work out, like it it will be fine, but don't let outside noise change the way you feel like that like you should do that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. I like that. No one's told us that yet. Really? Not the listening to your baby. I've gotten some moms being like, listen to your intuition instead of what other parents tell you. Yeah. But I like the idea. I I agree that I'm like, if my baby's uh telling me something else, yeah, and I'm trying to do what the parental social norm is and it's still not working for my baby, I'm gonna listen to like what my baby was.
SPEAKER_04See, so there were there were two I'll there's two things I've you know, big things I think with coast, and I'll make it quick. But like one was sleeping. When you transition your baby from like your room, because the baby's gonna be next to you like the whole time for a while, that you transition them into their own crib and in their own room. A lot of parents have like different you know opinions on sleep training. And some say, Oh, if your baby's crying so much, you need to do like the there's there's different rules. One is like the 15-minute rule, one is you just let them cry it out, even if it's like an hour to two hours, they just cry until they self-soothe. We we listened to Coast. I and basically like every time Coast would cry, I I always made sure to go in there the first time. I never wanted him to know that like he was alone. You're you're alone. You're like if you're scared or you're sad, mommy is always gonna come in there, or daddy's always gonna come in there. And then, like, if it was a second or third time, we would try to like leave a few minutes, like a gap. And we never we never went over, I think 15 minutes was probably the max we ever did. But we like listened to him and like we realized, oh, it was the sleep sack he didn't like. Like he was kind of moving too much, and there was a sleep sack that kind of like held him firmer. And it was just like, I mean, I guess he's gonna just like came. But he's like, we can understand like something's like not feeling right for him. How can we comfort him? And now, I mean, like, he this may this boy loves his sleep. He, when we wake him up at two hours, he's like, No, mommy, no, I want to sleep.
SPEAKER_07It's funny, whenever we come over and he wakes up from a nap, he he has like the perfect like just woke up face.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07He's like, Why am I awake right now?
SPEAKER_04Exactly. And um, and the second one was potty training. So a lot of parents are like, Oh, you have to potty train your baby before like at two or whatever it is. And I had a lot of parents in my neighborhood being like, You should start potty training when I started partying, and I'm like, Okay, okay, whatever. But Coast wasn't ready. And you know what? I'm so glad I listened to him because when he showed me signs that he was ready, he was potty trained in two days. Wow, because he was ready, like he wanted to, he kept pulling down his diaper, and he didn't want to be wiped anymore. And I was like, That that sounds like a sign to me, yeah, you know, and I listened to him, and and then he's so happy going to the toilet. He wants to go into the toilet, and he's not had a mess up after those two days, and I'm just like very proud of him. Well, yeah, that's awesome. Oh, I love that. I'm done talking. No, you're good. Well, not yet.
SPEAKER_03I uh we have one water. Yeah, take care. We obviously got my jackets. I know it's getting hot in here.
SPEAKER_07We're very happy to have you on because we a big reason why we wanted to start this podcast is because we are new parents and we're learning. So having you on and other people on, kind of like giving us advice.
SPEAKER_03I would have tried that. Like, we should try the like if our kids crying. I like the like you always check in first and then if it happens again, give it a couple minutes.
SPEAKER_07I would have such a hard time just like not like if my baby's crying, I'm like, Oh, I want to help. Like, I have a I would have a hard time like not wanting to like go in and do something, you know.
SPEAKER_04So we had a hard time with that. I mean, and again, that's why we never did over 15 minutes. And because at some point you you also need to like let your baby learn. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07You don't like but you feel like there's a balance, like there's a balance. You don't you don't need one extreme or the other, right?
SPEAKER_04No, and again, I'm not saying like whatever any parent does, that is so fine. Like, I'm not there to tell you like doing an hour is like wrong. If you want if you feel that's necessary for your lifestyle and your baby, it's your baby and your life. Do whatever you think is necessary.
SPEAKER_03I mean, as long as he's not in danger, like at the end of the day, you knew he was in his crib. There was nothing that could potentially like really harm him.
SPEAKER_07I just feel like there's also so much conflicting information out there. Yes. So it's like I'm definitely don't listen to the noise. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because that's the biggest thing for me, and I'm stressed about like, man, like obviously already I love this baby so much, and I haven't even met him. But I'm like, maybe I will be like what she said, because I'm always like, oh man, like I want to do this. I want to do this perfectly. Like, I don't want to mess up, and I'm watching all these. I'm watching all these videos.
SPEAKER_03I think that he'll be. I thought that I was gonna be like, as our kid gets older, I was like, I have a feeling that I'm gonna have to be bad cop, but I think it's gonna be.
SPEAKER_07I think I might be more chill as they get older. I think it might flip.
SPEAKER_04You never know. Like, I'm I would say Keen is like the nicer parent in our relationship. I always thought it was gonna be like me and then Keen, you know, the dads are like the strict ones, but no, I'm the one who's like, I don't know, I'm not taking that crap. You wanna cry over it?
SPEAKER_07No, but I feel like that's gonna be herb. I don't know though. We'll see. We don't know until we actually maybe we'll just it'll be preference.
SPEAKER_03It's really fun to see.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm curious. We're excited.
SPEAKER_03Well, we have a little game to play with each other. We got a little game. Okay. And the game, what would you even call it? Just rapid fire. So we're gonna give you like a word or a phrase, and then you're gonna say the first word that comes to mind. Well, the first two you're gonna give me three words. Oh gosh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_06No pressure, though.
SPEAKER_03I literally cracked under pressure. I'm not good at this. Okay. So first one three words to describe Ayla in twenty twenty six.
SPEAKER_04Um confident, excited, and I feel like I'm gonna be working really hard, so hardworking. Let's go. I love words to describe.
SPEAKER_03I love that confident was first. I feel confident this year. I feel like you're also very um strong-minded in the best way. Like you know what you want, especially in terms of like everything.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it took a I feel like it took a little bit, but I'm very confident in myself and my lifestyle now. Yeah. So I'm happy.
SPEAKER_03I have definitely noticed that too. Okay, thanks. What about three words to describe Ayla in 2020? In 2016? Um oblivious.
SPEAKER_04Um, just what's a word of like looking for fun? I don't know, looking for fun, and she was a very excited girl. She was ready to like there was a lot of new opportunities coming in 2016, and I was just like, I'll go there.
SPEAKER_03You were in your like early 20s in 2016?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so you were like partying it up and I was in college and I feel like I was.
SPEAKER_04Did I graduate college? I did. No, I already graduated college. What am I saying? I already graduated college, I think. I don't even know. 2016. It's a long time ago, now. What a time to be alive. I think it was like when I started when I came to I think I moved back to LA. And so yeah, I was it was a lot going on. But I I've never really been a big party girl. I would say like my biggest party years were 2017 and 2018. I just had a field day. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, I loved this. Benders?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. Like I would just, I was just like a yes girl. I was like, oh, you want to do this. You want to go to Bali and party on some beach? I'm there. Like already. Okay, that's hard to say. We're talking about this line. I went to Greece, I traveled all over. I'm partying. And I'm actually so grateful I lived that life because now that I'm a mom, like I can say I'm. Oh, these days, it's a lot of work to get me to go somewhere. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_07What is your biggest pet peeve?
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, what is my biggest pet peeve? Um, I don't like when people just aren't truthful.
SPEAKER_07Okay, one thing you never leave the uh home without.
SPEAKER_04My son.
SPEAKER_07Okay, what's your cheat meal?
SPEAKER_04Uh In and Out. I love In N Out. Okay, go to karaoke songs. Biggest crazy. I actually hate karaoke.
SPEAKER_07All right.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, I'm the only person that doesn't like it.
SPEAKER_07Guilty Pleasure TV show.
SPEAKER_03Uh right now I'm watching Mormon Wives.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_03Ooh. Okay, destination or local wedding? Now, local.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_03These days, local.
SPEAKER_04Before destination.
SPEAKER_07Okay. If you could have any superpower, what would it be?
SPEAKER_03Oh, uh, to fly. Okay, last one. One um, first thing you do when you wake up. Check the monitor.
SPEAKER_01My son's monitor.
SPEAKER_07Hey, killed it. Rachel.
SPEAKER_03It's literally, oh my gosh, yeah, under pressure. Well, I think you did great.
SPEAKER_07All right, you guys. Well, Ayla, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. We appreciate you coming. Um, make sure you guys had fun.
SPEAKER_04I did. I feel like it doesn't matter. Doesn't it go by fast? It goes by fast, but I also feel like we talked so much that, like, I don't know. Sometimes I always completely black out this whole time.
SPEAKER_03You need to. You're made for podcasting now.
SPEAKER_07No, you're made for podcasting. But no, it's kind of wonderful. You just got a yab. It's okay. We love you.
SPEAKER_03No, I think you were perfect. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Um, but yeah, thank you, Ayla, for coming on the podcast. Guys, also on the fourth wall, we do bonus videos that you only get on there, and you get episodes three days early. And it's currently seven days free if you guys want to check it out in the description.
SPEAKER_03Also, once again, we just want to thank Ayla for coming on here. Um, thank you. You're welcome. I'm so excited. I love that we've had all these moms come on. I mean, yeah, I guess we'll see who our next guest is.
SPEAKER_07Gotta get Keen on here.
SPEAKER_03I know. Mother or father. Yeah, you don't have any fathers yet.
SPEAKER_07We want to start with the moms because I feel like um You have a lot to say. You have a lot to say.
SPEAKER_03Because when you I feel like your journey carry, like obviously, we're the pregnant ones. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's a lot different than like the dad experience. Not saying that the dad experience is not anything like important. I don't want to I don't want to very important, you know, bring you down. But you know.
SPEAKER_07No, no, I think a lot of the questions I will have uh for the dads, I think start after. Like we have.
SPEAKER_04I genuinely think you know, the one thing Keyn loves, the only thing he loves to talk about is our son. So, like, you will have he'll just talk your own.
SPEAKER_07We'll get him on, we'll get him on for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, all right, guys. Well, thanks for tuning in this week.
SPEAKER_07Thank you guys, thank you. Bye.