S1 Ep11: After Two Navy SEALs Died, Something Followed Him Home / Peter Borzi

When two Navy SEALs were lost at sea during a dangerous anti-piracy mission off the coast of Somalia, civilian navigator Peter Borzi found himself at the center of a tragedy he couldn't leave behind. The experience haunted him long after he returned home.

Night terrors. Sleep paralysis. An overwhelming sense of a dark presence following him wherever he went. Raised Catholic and skeptical of anything outside the conventional world, Peter struggled to make sense of the terrifying experiences that began after that fateful night at sea.

Searching for answers, he reluctantly agreed to undergo a past life regression with regression therapist Fiona Harris—despite believing the entire concept was nonsense.

What unfolded during that session was extraordinary.

In this episode, Peter recounts the tragic mission that changed his life, the disturbing spiritual experiences that followed, and the astonishing past life that emerged during his regression—one that seemed deeply connected to the grief, fear, and unresolved emotions he'd been carrying ever since.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

I didn't want to believe what was unfolding in front of me. It started to grow more and more obvious each day that we searched, that the likelihood of recovering these men from the water was becoming lower and lower every day. During that time, it felt like I was being almost stalked or watched by some sort of entity.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Have you lived on this planet before? In another time, another place. About half the people of the world believe in reincarnation. That a human soul journeys through hundreds or even thousands of lives on its path to enlightenment. Fiona Harris is uniquely gifted in the art of past life regressions. Using gentle hypnosis, Fiona is able to help clients reconnect with subconscious memories of their past lives. For each episode in this series, Fiona will do a past life regression with our guest. She and the guest will then join me on the podcast to discuss the past lives they discovered and how this information will be utilized by the guest in their life moving forward. Please join us. Today's guest is Peter Borsey. Peter grew up among relatives who were very connected to the sea. Peter followed in their footsteps, ultimately serving as a merchant marine, a pirate hunter, until the day that turned his entire life upside down and catapulted him into dimensions he never even knew existed. Peter Borge, thank you so much for being with us uh on the podcast. Thank you. It's my my pleasure. So, Peter, how did you come to this podcast?

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Yeah, I would say around this time last year, I um was going through some stuff emotionally and uh I found Fiona online.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Who's not a not a traditional therapist, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Not a traditional therapist, but I really liked what she had to say, and I was like, I need to connect with this person. I didn't know anything about past life regression. I actually didn't I was very skeptical, didn't really believe in it, and uh here we are today.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

So there's definitely some change in that uh in that era.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

So yeah, so Peter contacted me and and like he mentioned, he had never done any I don't think you had done anything like this, although you'd had some strange experiences, some weird things that were going on that we'll get back to. Um but you came for a regression and it was insane. It was like really, really cool.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Okay, so for people who maybe don't know what a past life regression is, can you just, Fiona, give us just a just a quick smidgen of what that is?

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Yeah. I take a client into a very deeply relaxed state. And when you're super deeper relaxed, but you're still like very kind of focused, um, you're generally in the theta brainwave state. And it's easy to guide a client into a place where they're able to choose one of their past lives and they're able to access their past lives.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

And when they're choosing that past life, is it is that a conscious decision or is that happening at a higher level, or what's that?

SPEAKER_02 3:51

It's definitely happening at a higher level. So the client doesn't know what they're gonna get. Unless someone specifically came in and said, Hey, I know I had this as a past life, my intention is to go there. Um, but generally, clients, I take them down this long hallway with all of these doorways and doors, and I just say, choose one. You know, maybe we have an intention, like a person wants to be healed, or you know, they want to face a phobia or something. Um, but yeah, no, he just walked down, he found a door that stood out to him in some way and went through, and crazy things ensued after that.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

So it's almost like you might say his higher self was sort of directing him to that door, and he's getting an instinct that's the one I should look in.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Yeah, so generally people will say it's your subconscious mind, um, your higher self. Your conscious mind is not choosing for sure. Your conscious mind doesn't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

All right. So before we get into your past life regression, I just want to get a little bit of a background about who you are. Um, and so you were you were born in Staten Island.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

I grew up with an Italian-American family from Staten Island, New York. So, like most other Italian Americans in New York, I was brought up in the Roman Catholic Church. Okay. Um and at the time I it's terrible to say, but I really didn't feel like any particular way about going to church.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

And then uh you have some relatives who are in the Navy, is that correct?

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Yeah, I'm in high school around this time. I have friends talking about going to college. I was a good student, but uh, you know, I I really didn't want to be there. So I had some uncles in my family that were um almost like father figures to me that I respected and loved a lot, and they're they both served in the Navy. And I thought, like, yeah, this is great. You know, why would I go to college when I could, you know, get out of New York and uh experience the world as a young man? And how did your parents feel about that? Yeah, they they shut that down. At the time, you know, at the time I had a good argument, and my parents were like, that's absolutely not gonna happen. We want you to go to college.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

So you kind of you kind of compromised, as I understand. You went to like a maritime college.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

I went to a maritime college in the Bronx. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

And then so after college, you took a number of jobs working on ships of various kinds, and eventually you got a position working closer to the military, correct?

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yeah, I wound up serving as a civilian on a hybrid Navy ship, which was you know uh composed mostly of Navy sailors, uh, with a very small group of civilians that were doing the navigation.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

So you would you would you had dreamt of going to the Navy, and here you are, basically in the Navy, but getting paid as a civilian.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

That's yeah, that's exactly right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

And what what kind of ship, where where were you, what were you doing, what was the the job?

SPEAKER_00 6:38

The type of ship I was on, it's it's classified as an expeditionary sea base. And uh my particular ship was homeported in the Middle East. Uh-huh. And we mostly patrol the Straits of Hormuz. Oh. Our reason for being there was almost as a show of force um to deter any uh illegal activity against being committed against like civilian ships um trying to carry crude oil out of the Persian Gulf.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

So all of this leads up to one very fateful night. Tell me a little bit about what happened that night.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

So after months of training on this particular ship with a detachment of Navy SEALs, we were doing a um anti-piracy mission off the coast of Somalia. Uh we were tracking this particular vessel that we had intel saying that this vessel is carrying weapons parts for for the Houthi rebels. Right. So um we find the vessel of interest and um we basically conduct what's called a VBSS, which is visit board search and seizure. Uh I had nothing to do with that in particular.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Because you're a civilian.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

I'm a civilian, so at the time I was in charge of uh navigating the ship under um under supervision of a naval captain and a civilian captain that night on mission. Uh we had lost two Navy SEALs.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Wait, two Navy SEALs perished on this night, died on this night.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Yeah, that's correct. Uh they were lost at sea. How did how did how did that happen? What what happened? So as you know, Navy SEALs are, you know, some of the best, if not the best, fighting forces, you know, in the world. Um they conduct missions early in the morning when no one expects it. And uh this particular morning, uh there was inclement weather, heavy seas, you know, pretty pretty large swells. Right. So basically the ship that I was navigating uh was the mother ship. So we positioned ourselves a couple miles away from the vessel of interest. Um during that time, our SEALs boarded their special boats, their fast boats, and um proceeded to sneak up on the vessel of interest. And um, once they get within range, they deploy a small wire ladder and proceed to board board the vessel.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

And and so then in that process somewhere a Navy SEAL, uh two Navy SEALs were lost?

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Yeah, well, if you can imagine, it's it's pitch black outside, basically in the middle of the ocean, uh rough weather, and uh they're climbing up a very thin wire ladder with you know over a hundred pounds of gear on their bodies. Um and while one of these seals was making the climb up the ladder, he had lost his footing and fell in the water. And um, as far as I know, his battle buddy or swim partner uh had jumped in the water after him to to aid in his rescue. Um, but that eventually led to uh losing both of them. As the watch officer, as the um navigational officer, uh you'd never want to hear the words that there's been a man overboard. Right. Uh so uh the whole bridge team had sprung into action. I was immediately relieved by the civilian captain, and um we proceeded to uh do what we could to recover these men. We had drones, drones in the air watching above. We had um helicopters in the air monitoring the situation. We had, like I mentioned before, Navy SEAL boats in the water. We had every asset out to to try to save these.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

And they they couldn't be recovered.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

We were unable to recover them.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

They then these guys are wearing a hundred pounds worth of gear. I mean, that must be hard to stay afloat.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

And they're the best swimmers in the world, so imagine that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Wow. Wow. And so and for how long did did you did the rescue and search operation take place trying to find these guys?

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Uh we had searched the area of operation for over a week, uh scanning back and forth.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Um and the vessel that you that was boarded, did the intel prove to be accurate?

SPEAKER_00 10:54

The intel was accurate. Uh we had recovered weapons parts for guided missiles that were actively being used against civilian ships in the Red Sea.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

So you're you're the watch, you're the person who's on watch, even though you're miles away from the incident, but you must have at some level felt a level of responsibility for this or connected to this.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

I definitely did feel um quite a bit of responsibility, although it was I was reassured that you know I did my job, I did my job successfully. Right. As a young man, you know, surrounded by people that I highly respect and quite literally were my heroes. Um I there was definitely uh I was definitely very emotionally charged, yeah, confused, and um didn't want to believe what was unfolding in front of me. I'd never really dealt with anything like that before.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

And on some level, you're feeling whether it's legitimate or not, on some emotional level, you're feeling responsible for for these heroes of yours, they're dead.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Right. So it started to grow more and more obvious each day that we searched, um, that the likelihood of recovering these men from the water was becoming lower and lower every day. And uh um that started to deteriorate my mental state. And at this time, I I was having night terrors that uh, you know, is there something I could have done that changed the outcome?

SPEAKER_02 12:22

You mentioned something happening on the ship that was really weird where you felt like there was a darkness because didn't you guys have the pirates on board the ship? Like detained or something?

SPEAKER_00 12:32

We did. We we um took the crew of the vessel of interest and we had them detained on our ship. They were treated very well, they were treated, you know, like like people. Um, but our ship was actually stuck at sea while we were trying to figure out the logistics of what we were gonna do with these people. Um, you know, if we were to pull into this country, would this country allow us to transfer the custody over to them? And that that turned into a headache, you know, over two months. So at the time I started having uh very powerful dreams, um night terrors that would turn into sleep paralysis where I'd wake up and uh I wasn't able to move my body for a short period of time. But during that time, um it felt like I was being almost stalked or or watched by some sort of entity or demon, you know, like I I grew up in a Catholic in the Catholic Church, so it there was definitely some very strong religious undertones, and uh, you know, I I couldn't help but escape this feeling that there was this dark, dark energy uh following me around everywhere I went.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

So you're you're sleeping at night, you're waking up, and your body is paralyzed, and there's this sense that there are in your lexicon of things, demons sort of crowding in upon you.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

It it felt like there was one one entity in particular that attached itself to me. It didn't feel like multiple, but uh one night in particular I had a dream that was charged with Catholic symbolism, and it was quite obvious to me that there was some sort of dark forces at play, and I had woken up completely paralyzed, and it felt like there was something lying in bed next to me, breathing down my neck.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Whoa. Yeah. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

So very shocking, scary. My heart is you know racing out of my chest, and my logical mind is trying to talk myself out of this and calm myself down.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Are you like hey, are you paralyzed at this moment, or are you you're able to move?

SPEAKER_00 14:50

Yeah, I was I was paralyzed. The only thing that was able to move were my eyes.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

So you're you know, I'm paralyzed in bed, and you have this strong sense that there is a very negative force lying right next to you.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Breathing down my neck, yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Breathing down your neck. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

I mean, uh to be completely honest, I was terrified. Yeah, of course. It was very visceral. It felt very real to me at the time, and um no amount of logic was able to make this thing go away. So I did what I did best, and uh what I was taught to do when I was a kid, and I I imagined uh Jesus uh being there with me, and almost instantly this weight was lifted off my shoulders, and I quite literally felt the thing that was behind me get out of the bed, almost you know, infuriated with me and it left. So uh then I started questioning a lot of things after that, but I could not uh escape this feeling like this energy was just around the corner. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

So now I want to get move us into the fun part. So under this strain, Peter quits his job and returns home.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

There was a period of time where I was home, but I still felt this presence that I experienced on the ship, and uh I would get these fits um almost like a panic attack, which I'm not typically an anxious person. I've never had a panic attack before in my life before, prior to this. It just felt like there was this negative energy um stalking me. That's the best way I could put it.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

It got to a point where I was at my girlfriend's house, and uh I really scared her one night, and she was like, Listen, uh, I love you. You you should really go um get some professional help. Right, right. I was like, okay, a therapist. And she was like, No, you need to see like an energy worker or a healer or someone that does past life regressions. And uh something ticked in my head. I was like, past life regression, uh what's that?

SPEAKER_01 17:01

All right, so Fiona, so tell us what was your experience as you're now you're beginning this regression with Peter.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

I'm glad that you asked me about what happened at the beginning because something really weird happened at the beginning of our session for both of us. So we get on the call, we're talking, we're chatting, we're like, oh, we're gonna do this, you know, regression, blah, blah, blah. I started to feel somebody around me who was very, very, very sad. The grief was like, I can't even tell you. And often in a session with someone, you know, a past self might come in, a relative might come in, somebody from somewhere might come in. So I'm I'm never completely certain who this person is. Is it is it one of Peter's past selves that's showing up early? I don't know, but I felt it. And then Peter, you felt it as well.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

I'm actually kind of feeling it now. Um it was it was just this overwhelming feeling of um you know sadness, um, almost disbelief. It was almost like a child like trying to understand um the atrocities that yeah, the atrocities that were that they were experiencing.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah, you just described it perfectly. I'm also tearing up. Thank God that I have Kleenex close by. But anyways, we both feel this at the beginning of the session. I'm like, oh my god, okay, whoever this is, we're here to help you. It's gonna be okay. You know, just hold tight. And we went into the regression, and Peter didn't have a normal regression. No, he couldn't just have like, I was a baker in 1640. No, he goes somewhere very unexpected and he experiences something very strange.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Tell us tell us what happened from your point of view, Peter.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

I I was very lucid.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

And I'm in this hallway and there's a bunch of doors, and I I know specifically that there's this one door that I have to go to. There's this light almost vibrating from under the door. I open the door and I step out into the light, and it seems like I'm um coming out of a temple of some sort. The entrance that I'm coming out of, it's there's like a huge statue built into the entrance. I look around and I'm in some sort of uh desert or arid environment. Um it doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before. Um it it seemed to be like I was in Egypt, possibly before it was Egypt.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Yeah, so that's kind of how it started. And I was greeted by, you know, a small group of people that uh they looked happy to see me as almost as if I might have been gone for some time. I think I was in some sort of training.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

And you had the feeling of having been in that temple for a while, like maybe a couple of days or something.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yes, and I I had this uh idea come to me that I must have been in there trying to connect with something else.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

And then Fiona had guided me in a different scene, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:19

I took him in that fluffy cloud. I always bring a fluffy cloud in to move from scene to scene. So I said, let's move into your fluffy cloud and let's go to a scene in that lifetime that was happy and joyful. You know, it's always nice just to get yourself grounded into a past life, not to just go somewhere terrible right away, right? Like, let's just go somewhere happy because then the you know the client will relax more and they feel more joyful and open, and then they can go on to the more challenging bits, right? So, yeah, we went to a happy, joyful moment in that past life.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Fiona always brings her fluffy cloud along.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

I love it, just works really well. It's a good does work.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Okay, it's a kid. So Fiona invited you into another moment in that lifetime. Where did you end up?

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Um, yeah, so almost immediately it felt like I was uh brought to um my home. Um I had this image of presumably my wife and and children. Um we were sitting at a relatively large table, round table. Right. And we were eating this really nice dinner, and it it came to me um that my family was actually celebrating me for something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

And did you did you figure out what it was?

SPEAKER_00 21:29

I had almost like I don't really know how to put it, like landed a job, uh, a very prestigious job. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, it felt it felt good actually. And in that moment, I really did feel like this genuine sensation that I, you know, I'd be able to provide for my family. I felt very proud of myself.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

That's so sweet. Fiona had invited you into this positive moment and you had found this beautiful moment. What happened next, Fiona?

SPEAKER_02 21:54

I think at that point we wanted to know what it was. Like, what is this job?

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Oh, Fiona then leads Peter to a critical. Moment in this new job where he's woken up in the middle of the night and hurried off to see someone who had quite a bit of power.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Right. I didn't feel like the first time I went to go visit this person. It feels like I was in this position for a while now. I did feel older. I remember like looking at my hands, and you know, I'm uh it just seemed a bit more aged. Right. Yeah, we go to this beautiful, beautiful building, and I'm waiting to be seen by, you know, someone who has tremendous power. Uh, and they're they want to know what I have to see. You they want to know what I see for the specific I don't know, um target timeline. Like I don't even know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Alright, so you're about to see someone of enormous power because that person wants to know from you something specifically about you don't know quite what it is.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

In this moment, it felt like it was the of most importance to um almost view a specific memory or oh it's still hard for me to explain.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

You know, it's it was uh Fiona, what do you hear? Jump in, Fiona.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

I believe that you were a seer. You're in this dining hall, you're s you're speaking to this person, you're being asked to access some information, and what do you see, notice, or experience next?

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Yeah, immediately um after I'm asked to see what he wants me to see, I um it seems as if I enter like a meditative state and I have these crystal clear visions of a red planet, and it it it seems as if like uh oh, I'm where I'm supposed to be, but I think I'm way past the time I'm supposed to be there. Like I overshot it, and I have these crystal clear visions of me on a red planet with like kind of dilapidated structures, um old columns that looked like were handcrafted kind of in disarray, and while I'm trying to get my bearings, I immediately realize that this isn't just some red planet. Uh, you know, I had this strong feeling that I'm on Mars.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

On Mars.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

And while I'm peeking around this, you know, place where I probably shouldn't be, I have this feeling that someone is watching me. And there's this man who I first think it's a man, but then come to realize that um he is not human. Pale, blue skinned, but very humanoid, maybe uh blonde hair, blue eyes staring at me, and he is just looking right through me, and he doesn't want me to be there. I knew that this person, this this thing was very intelligent, much more intelligent than I was. And he was I was almost like a bug to him. I w my presence annoyed him. Like you shouldn't be here. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Was he evil or was he just sort of just dismissive?

SPEAKER_00 25:12

I would say um he you know, he definitely wasn't um benevolent, you know. I I I don't I don't think I it was more like I was a nuisance, uh like a fly on the wall, and he wanted to swap me out of the picture.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

That's kind of like how my wife treats me, sort of like so. I I can relate to it. I mean, that's right. Okay, so what happens what happens next?

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Getting the picture, getting the idea that this guy didn't want me there, I um I I really didn't have it in me to push any further. Uh because it was it was quite it was quite a lot.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

So you decide to get out of there.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

And yeah, I I get back now back at this dining hall with the powerful being. Right. And it felt like, you know, yeah, I did I did the job I was sent there to do, but you know, it felt like something was off. I wasn't as accurate as I used to be at seeing things. That's what it felt like. It felt like me and this this person were friends, right? And it was kind of like, hey, more of like a good friend letting me down. Like that is not what I asked you to do.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

So at this point, you're pretty clear you had abilities as a seer of some sort, and these abilities are in decline.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Yeah, that became quite obvious. If you can imagine like an athlete eventually becoming less and less athletic uh at the older they get. That's that's exactly what it felt like. Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Before we go to the end of the life, which is where we're coming to, which gets really beautiful, in the session, you almost you didn't want to say Egypt. You were like really hesitant. You're like, oh, it kind of feels like Egypt, but I don't know. And then you mentioned you were definitely on a big river, and I did a little bit of digging, and there was a city called Heliopolis, and it's actually a suburb now in Cairo, and it was on the Nile. I think they said it was like the east side of the Nile, and in Heliopolis, they had a big temple there. Um, there was a high priest of Ra. There was a lot of seers there, but the high priest of Ra, who would be male, was the seer of all seers. They actually did spend a lot of time looking at constellations, so it kind of ties into that, you know, that that's a that's a possibility that that's where you may have been.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

And and if you were when you tied that in, were you saying that Peter's lifetime he was the high seer, or the person he was reporting to was a high seer?

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Oh no, I'd say he was the high seer. I think the person he was reporting to couldn't see anything, so he calls in the high priest of Ra. Um, now I'm just surmising. I can't say 100% that he was, but he had the job, he was brought to the highest person, you know. And then and then when he was in that temple in the beginning of the session and he was in there for a few days, that's one of the ways you hone your craft, right? You know, you go into you go into one of those tanks, what are they called?

SPEAKER_01 28:10

The sensory deprivation.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

So to Fiona, did you then invite Peter to go into another phase in the science?

SPEAKER_02 28:17

So we figured we kind of saw all we needed to see in that lifetime. We kind of knew it was going on. And I s and now he's getting old. I was like, let's go to the end of your life and let's see what happens next.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

Yeah, so then I I see myself in my home being comforted by my wife, and uh Fiona basically tells me that you know, we should see what happens when when I die, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Fiona, what are you inviting him to do?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Well, I try not to lead people. So so I say, let's go to the last moment of death and let's see what happens next. You know, how do you leave your body? Do you leave your body? What happens?

SPEAKER_00 28:55

And I can't remember how you left your body, whether it was through your head or your chest or it was um it felt like this essence had seeped through like the crown of my skull. Then almost instantly it felt like I was being launched the this ball of light almost. Uh that doesn't do it justice for what I actually saw, but uh it was almost like this essence of light just got shot into hyperspace, and um I'm very quickly not on that plane of existence anymore, uh Earth. Um I'm traveling through the best I could describe it, it was sp space. You know, it was dark. Uh there wasn't much light around me, but um this feeling that I knew exactly where I was going. I was returning home. And the closer and closer I got to that feeling, the more the sky, this dark sky, lit up around me with other balls of light or essence of energy that looked exactly like me. You know, catapulting through the sky, like hyperspace. And it was very emotional.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

The sense of going home.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Energetically, though. It's not like me physically entering my home, but like it felt like I was uh like energy being returned to a battery almost.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

And Fiona had told me, like, you know, kind of examine, like, what are you? Can you examine what you are? And uh that like blew my mind. It almost like stopped me in my tracks. Like I'm still imagining me like flying through like this hyperspace, but I I look at myself, I look at this energy, and I like almost zoom in to myself. And this is crazy. It was like fractals. It was like if I was a diamond, if I was this brilliant diamond and you looked into it, it was just inside of it was the same thing over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

It's that thing where like if you take a picture of a of a TV screen and it's in in it's the TV inside the TV, inside the TV, inside the TV.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Like, but it's more beautiful patterns, very geometric, um, just like this brilliant white energy.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

And what was your experience when you saw that?

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Oh, it blew my mind. It was like it was joyous, actually. It was um that feeling of coming home like amplified tenfold, a hundredfold. Yeah, I can't even like really accurately describe it, but it was um it felt great. It was like excitement that I was getting going back to where I came from. I've got this overwhelming feeling, like everything is connected, we're all one, we're all heading to the same place, we all come from the same place. In one way or another, you know, your experience is my experience, my experience is yours. You might we might not be able to see that clearly now, but I truly believe that um what you know one day we will. And we already know it. You'll just remember. That's that's my honest belief.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

You just put it all in a nutshell. Like wow. I see this not every day, but working with clients, I and even having my own experience, I've seen this a million times. We're all connected, we're all one, and we're always okay. We should not be frightened. And yet here we are, frightened and separate.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Exactly. I like that Peter said. Um, we we don't know it, but we will, and we actually do already know it. Uh it's so beautiful. It it's an incredible. So did did it go further than that?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

It it did go a little bit further. My visuals kind of stopped, and there was almost this inner dialogue. I don't really understand a lot of what's going on, but I I remember hearing like it was like, Welcome back, how was it? And that like sent chills down my body.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Some greater thing was welcome you back to heaven to this divine place.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

For me, it wasn't like this physical heaven with you know, you know, golden pearly gate, you know. Right. Whatever. It was it was very energetic for me and something. Uh I don't want to say it was God or whatever. It felt like I was being welcomed back by like familiar energy. And it was joyous, like, yeah, how are you? How was it? You know, and they were almost happy. It felt like they were happy that I experienced it, because in a way they got to experience it. And uh this one very clearly, this this one phrase, which I you know, I didn't know what it meant at the time. I kind of looked it up now. This one phrase came to mind, and it was divine play.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Divine play. Divine play. That's beautiful, that's amazing. And what is the emotional experience with the bigger?

SPEAKER_00 33:47

I was completely blissed out. Uh, I don't even think joy was like my body felt light and and that feeling is really good. Like there was nothing to worry about, and it's like, why are you it's like everything's nonsense. Why are you worrying about it's all just divine playing in being in that state, it's very peaceful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

But we weren't done with Peter yet.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Well, okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Okay, we were done with Peter, but we weren't done with that poor young person that showed up at the beginning of the session. A child or a young person who is experiencing something very terrible, something deathly. You know, even before we went into the regression, right? So I I said to Peter, like, we have to go pick up this person who, you know, kind of intercepted our energy at the beginning. Um, it wasn't a past self. It was I I actually I actually think I know where that person came from.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

I think that person was connected to you, you know, Peter, as a as an attachment. And we have attachments all the time. Everyone often has attachments to people. I think that person was an attachment in need of healing.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

What you're referring to is like souls will sometimes attach to other souls because there's almost a neediness, and maybe this person will help me. And so we is that what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 35:06

And I don't want people to be freaked out by that. It's actually very, very common. Like we could have an attachment to an ex-partner who we never got clarity with, and we still have some imagine some little like strings attached to us, right? Sometimes people do cord cutting ceremonies. Um, sometimes an attachment's really healing and helpful for us. Sometimes there's something that they need to heal and we need to heal, and they're kind of attached to us until we both work this out. And I think that that's the case with Peter.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

Okay, so Peter had this attachment. You had a sense now that this was an attachment. It was a young person that that you both had sort of felt in the beginning. How did you get to the bottom of it?

SPEAKER_02 35:47

So we brought in the cloud.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

The trusty cloud.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

So I took him back to the long hallway with all the doorways, and I said, I said, look for a doorway that stand or a door that stands out for you in regards to helping this young person.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Almost as soon as the words came out of Fiona's mouth, I was um I felt like I was there, and I knew exactly what was going on. And you have to remember, I was coming from a state of like complete bliss. So it's like the top of the wave. And uh I just immediately knew, as it was definitely a uh a young child, I just I saw it. Uh it seemed like they were in the midst of a genocide of some sort.

unknown 36:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Oh I'm getting shivers. So this is a young person who's sort of witnessing around them some sort of mass uh killing event, and they're in absolute terror.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Right. And um I think they were a victim of it and just completely confused as to how could something like this happen, you know, your child.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Was the child relating to you? Um poor Fiona.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

I know. It's I can I can feel the energy of it so we're weird we were bawling. It's a horrible feeling.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

I can't I can't even imagine.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Can I say what I think the attendant I I think that that child was attached to one of those men that were on the ship?

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Oh wait, say that, explain that. I don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

So the men that were detained on the ship off the coast of Somalia.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

I think that I don't know, I don't know who's genociding who. Like I'm not really good at that, but I think that somehow that kid was connected with one of the guys on the ship. One of the guys that were locked up that were detained. And I could be wrong, but I feel it. Like I feel it inside me. Yeah. I think you're probably feeling it right now, too.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Um everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

Yeah. And it was just the feeling of like, like, we all have hard lives, but we don't know what it's like to be a little kid in a situation like that. Where it's not only you that's being hurt, the adults around you are frightened and hurt as well. It's a really heavy energy, and we both were. Yeah. I know he's trying not to cry right now, but in the session, in the session, we were like bawling. So anyway, okay, I'm gonna try to like.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Well, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

I want to hear Peter. Hold on, I want to hear Peter's.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Yeah, while Fiona's you know explaining this and kind of connecting the dots for me, it literally feels like my spine is on fire. Um you know, I feel it in my heart, I feel it in the back of my head, and you know, I can't even begin to imagine what that experience must be like for anyone, let alone, you know, a child.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Are you experiencing the child sort of he's already dead? It's it's the soul of the child that's that has already been victim of this genocide, or is it is it is he in the midst of a genocide?

SPEAKER_02 38:50

He's in it. He's in it. So what happens when we ex when we experience trauma? Um often a little piece of us is just kind of left there. If we if we don't have any kind of you know support, you know, eight-year-old me could be somewhere some right right now, right? So we were in his moments of like, what is happening here?

SPEAKER_01 39:10

So it's it's in the actual the the the shit is going down, sort of. Yeah, yeah, it's going down. And you you felt a connection between him and one of the prisoners on the ship.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

I don't know. I just feel because because you said when you could see the kid, he was he was of African descent, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Like, yeah, and it felt present. It didn't feel like this is something that happened long ago or in the future. This this was happening quite quite um recently.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Yeah, I want to do say though, we didn't leave that poor little kid in that moment. We rescued okay, thank you. Yeah, we didn't just go there and say, Oh my god, this is terrible and leave him. Um I I guided I guided Peter to because he was attached to Peter, I guided Peter to rescue the boy energetically and and take him out of that moment, let him know that that moment is divine play. Terrible divine play, but it's divine play. So so Peter's able to rescue him, and I think his father came in, or I can't remember who came in.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

It was his father, yeah. Yeah, and and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

So you've guided Peter to take this energy, this boy, yes, and brought him to a safe place, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Yes, yes. We brought him to a safe place. I got Peter to comfort him and to calm him down and to let him know that we that our bodies are temporary, even our personalities, who we are, this is temporary. You know, our souls, our higher selves are eternal. And these traumatic moments, these illusions, we're just stuck in the belief that it's really happening. And when we can rescue someone, get them out of the moment, get them calm, and then get them to realize like that's that's done, like that's over, let's go. And they get to reconnect with with their higher self, which is also source, and we all become more whole, like all of us. You know, every rescue is everyone's rescue.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Every rescue is everyone's rescue because we're all connected. Yeah. Um, and as you were in this process and Peter was was helping this boy, uh you had a sense, Peter, that the father, the boy's father, came in?

SPEAKER_00 41:18

Yeah, I don't know why. A safe place in this situation, it was me and this kid, you know, hanging in in a tree. Just like like we were it was just like me, it felt like me and my little brother.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Like sitting on a tree branch.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

High up in a tree in a tree branch, like very calm, serene, and I had this overwhelming feeling that he wanted his father. And and there it was. Like it just made sense. And uh, as soon as I imagined him being comforted and taken away by his father and his parents, um, it felt like a load was taken off my shoulders. I physically felt that walking away from that session. I feel lighter. It's all this this stuff is just gone now. And uh it feels like I did a you know, we did a good thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

The what was the word for you you were using in the uh the the bond or the attachment that to Peter was was sort of the father came along and the the the boy released that because he had the had the comfort of his father there once again.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

And and we and we broke the illusion that he was still in that moment. Like we took we took him out of there, he's gone, right? Like, because this all is an illusion, you know.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

I sometimes I say that and people kind of roll their eyes at me, but uh but I know it's a real solid illusion, but it is an illusion. It's pretty convincing.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

It's sometimes we sometimes we get to have beautiful moments where we touch something else and we go, Oh my god, there is something else, you know, and you have enough of those.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Would you say it was ontological shock?

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Ontological shock, it absolutely is. It's ontological shock when something like very spiritually crazy happens. Like if you if an ET walked in your house right this moment and just walked in your room and was like, Oh, hi there, you're gonna lose your shit. Like you're gonna be like, Oh my god, what is going on? Like, how is this real? You know? And and it's shocking. And then you kind of get used to it, and maybe you have another shock here and there.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

And oh, and you get it cut, you get acclimated to it.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Every time it happens to me, which there's been a handful of times where it has, immediately start questioning whether or not I'm alive or not. Because something's so crazy, it's like there's no way this makes sense. I'm obviously dead and I don't know it. But no, that's just if you want to enlighten me, it's ontological shock. It just pulls you out of your reality and you kind of experience what's really going on.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

I think I mean Fiona's point is that the more times you have this ontological shock, I don't know what antological means, but I'm using ontological. But the more times you have it, the more you become accustomed to it. And so what we thought was reality and these crazy things that are happening, suddenly the crazy things aren't as shocking, and reality has expanded uh as a result.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

This is real. What we're doing right now is very real, but there's other there's There's just dimensions we're not seeing.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

There's other things that are more real.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

There's more, yeah, that's the best way to put it.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

It's interesting that Peter has his past life in which he was a prominent seer, and and now in this lifetime he he sees so much. I mean, you've guided him so beautifully, Fiona, but I think you came into this life, it sounds like with a fair bit of training. You're this is the this is a skill that you have.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

Yeah, which is cra which is crazy because I think there's a lot of people that can do this type of stuff, and they they're almost scared or afraid. And it for me it it's it could be very overwhelming, it could be scary, but that is like the most beautiful thing. Um in and of itself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Okay, so the last thing I want to ask you about this regression with Fiona, how has it changed you? What what are you what have you taken away? Do you feel different as a result of it?

SPEAKER_00 45:11

I think it's definitely opened my eyes more. I love speaking with Fiona because it's very validating that everything that I'm experiencing. I'm not a crazy person, you know, like I I'm not delusional at this regression. Um has made me more I feel more confident in myself. I want to believe in the things that I see and experience. It's real. Um yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

This this has just been so great. This is just I don't know what else to say. It's just it's just been so great to hear this story.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

He's he's so engaging, hey? Like he's so it's just I don't know. He's just he's gonna wait.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

I'm being completely honest, it makes me want to grow a mustache. I mean, I just could I be that engaging if I had a mustache, too?

SPEAKER_02 45:56

You're engaging already, Peter.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

And this has been so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

Yeah, thank you for having me, Jay and Fiona. I mean, inviting me on this podcast. Uh, I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

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