Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa
What happens when a behavioral scientist with two decades of experience studying how meaning gets lost — between doctors and patients, between research and real life, between who we are and who we perform — turns that lens inward?
Soul to Soul is a weekly podcast hosted by Lisa Carter-Bawa, PhD, MPH, APRN, ANP-C, FAAN, a researcher, leader, and advocate who has spent her career at the intersection of health equity, communication, and human behavior. Each episode is an invitation to slow down, reflect, and reconnect with the parts of yourself that institutions and expectations have tried to edit out.
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Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa
THE FIRST ORDINARY DAY
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Nobody tells you about the Tuesday. The one where you wake up and nothing is on fire. No emergency. No decision that has to be made by noon. Just coffee that's just coffee and a morning that's just a morning. In this episode, I talk about what happens after everything — the disorienting, beautiful, slightly terrifying return to an ordinary life. Why your body stays braced long after the crisis ends. Why peace can feel like vertigo. And why the small wants — the walk, the quiet morning, the meal made slowly — aren't small at all. They're the whole point. They're what you survived for.
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Not role to role. Soul to soul.
You're listening to Soul to Soul with Lisa Carter Boba, where science meets soul. Nobody tells you about the first ordinary day after everything. They tell you about the crisis, they tell you about the fight, they tell you about the moment you almost didn't make it, or the moment you did. They celebrate the turning point. They want the comeback arc, the redemption, the lesson learned. But nobody tells you about the Tuesday. The Tuesday where you wake up and nothing is on fire, where there is no emergency, no decision that has to be made by noon, where the coffee is just coffee, where the morning is just a morning, and you stand in it, in this ordinary, unremarkable morning, and you don't know what to do with your hands. This is Soul to Soul. I'm Dr. Lisa Carterbawa, and today I want to talk about what happens after everything. The part nobody prepares you for. The disorienting, beautiful, slightly terrifying return to an ordinary life. I spent a long time in a season where every day had stakes, where I woke up already solving something, already bracing, already calculating which fire needed me first. I don't need to name the specifics, you have your own version of this. The season that went on longer than anyone warned you. The season that reshaped you in ways you didn't consent to. The one you survived, not with glory, but with whatever you had left. What I want to say is this: surviving something changes your nervous system. You develop a muscle memory for crisis. Your body learns to scan the room, to brace before the phone rings, to hold your breath between emails, to sleep with one ear open, metaphorically or otherwise, and then one day the crisis ends. Or it shifts, or it loosens enough that you can step outside of it. And your body doesn't know. Your body is still braced, still scanning, still waiting for the next thing, and you're standing in a quiet kitchen on a Tuesday morning and your hands are shaking. Not because something is wrong, but because nothing is, and that feels wrong. I think this is the part of survival nobody talks about. Not the crisis itself, not the endurance, but the aftermath. The slow, strange, disorienting process of learning that you are safe enough to put the armor down. Here's the thing I wasn't prepared for. When you spend long enough in a hard season, you reorganize yourself around it. You become efficient, strategic, ruthless about what matters and what does not. You learn to carry less, to say no without explaining, to function on fumes and call it discipline. And some of that is good. Some of that is wisdom earned the hard way. But some of it is armor. And armor is heavy. And after a while you forget you're wearing it. The question isn't how do I go back to who I was before? The question is, who am I now that I don't have to fight? That's an identity question, and it's a harder one than most people realize. Because crisis gives you clarity. It strips everything down to essentials. There's a strange comfort in that, and knowing exactly what matters, exactly what to do, exactly who you need to be. Peace doesn't give you that. Peace gives you choices, and choices after a long season of none can feel less like freedom and more like vertigo. I remember the first week things got quiet enough to notice. I kept checking my phone, not because I expected bad news, just because my body didn't know what to do with a phone that wasn't delivering it. I remember looking at my calendar and seeing open space and feeling not relief but panic, because open space meant I had to decide what to fill it with. And deciding what to fill it with meant answering a question. I had been too busy to ask. What do I actually want? Not what do I need to survive, not what does this situation demand, but what do I want for myself on a Tuesday with no emergency? I didn't know. And that not knowing felt like failure. I want to tell you something small. It was a Wednesday night, and I was making a meal, and I didn't have all the ingredients, and so I just threw everything together. I was just living. And I remember thinking, oh, this this is it. This is what I was fighting for. An ordinary Wednesday night. Not the promotion, not the recognition, not the proof that I had outlasted the hard thing. This, a moment so ordinary it would never make anyone's highlight real. A moment with no stakes, no audience, no outcome. Just me, present, undefended, alive. I think we misunderstand what the other side of a hard season is supposed to feel like. We imagine triumph. We imagine lightness. We imagine joy showing up fully formed, like a guest who's been waiting at that door. But it doesn't come like that. It comes like a Tuesday. It comes like coffee that's just coffee. It comes in a moment so quiet you could miss it entirely if you're still scanning for the next crisis. The first ordinary day isn't a reward. It's a practice. A practice of noticing that you are no longer in the storm, and that the absence of storm is not emptiness. It's ground. If you're in that season, the after season, I want to say a few things to you. First, the disorientation is not a weakness. It is a recalibration. Your body is learning to a new setting, and that takes time. You're not broken because peace feels strange. You are adjusting. And second, you do not owe anyone a comeback narrative. You do not have to turn your survival into a TED talk or a lesson or a five-step framework for resilience. You can just have survived. That's enough. You're allowed to be someone who went through something hard and came out on the other side without a thesis about it. And third, and this is the one I needed to hear the most, you're allowed to want small things. After a season of big stakes, small ones can feel like a betrayal. Like you should want something more, something worthy of what you endured. But the small wants, the walk, the quiet morning, the meal that I made slowly and thrown together, the book read for no reason, the phone call to someone you miss, those are not small. They're the whole point. They are what you survived for. You fought for the right to have an ordinary Tuesday. Don't skip it. The first ordinary day after everything is not the end of the story. It's not the climax, it's not the resolution. It's the beginning of a different kind of life. A life where you are not defined by what you survived, but by what you chose to build. Slowly, without urgency, without performance, in the space that survival made possible. It's a Tuesday, and it's yours. Thank you for listening. This has been Dr. Lisa Carter Bawa with Soul to Soul. See you next week.