Love is Blind S10, Episodes 12 and Reunion Recap

Lil Honey and Big Honey are back recapping Love is Blind Season 10, Episode 12 and the reunion - where we discuss the weddings, the aftermath, and the where are they nows! We go on many digressions because as always, we have thoughts.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:07

Welcome to the reality edits, the show where we break down our favorite reality TV shows. I'm your host, Lil Honey, here with my co-host, Big Honey. And today we're breaking down the final episode and the reunion of season 10 of Love is Blind. So we're finally finishing out the Ohio season, and I know we have a lot to say about it. So should we get right into it?

SPEAKER_01 0:31

No. I have some beef to air before we get into this. No. The pacing of Love is Blind is insane. Say more. Okay, so I know Netflix is famous for binging. But they've weirdly cut the baby in half on this one. It drives me crazy. So either release all of them or release one episode weekly. The the we only get two of these a year. And so they do a six-episode drop, which each episode is an hour. And then like a 3-3-2 situation. It's over really fast, but also the drops are so big each time that it's just crazy to get through.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Are you saying this just as a casual consumer of Love is Blind, or are you saying this as a podcast?

SPEAKER_01 1:19

No, I'm saying it's a casual consumer. Okay. Because like I said, we get two of these a year and look forward to each one, and it's over in a blink, and I've also had to mass consume it all at one time.

SPEAKER_04 1:31

I I don't disagree with you. I think that I would like it all at once, and I can decide how I want to parcel it out based on my viewing schedule.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yeah, the I would prefer that too. Because the issue is like you try to get through the first six before the next drop because you're always excited for the next drop. And they're like, all right, well, here's three more. You're like, my goodness, I just watched six in the last week, and now I have to get three through three in this week. It just becomes so much to get through because you don't want to miss out on that next drop.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

Also, just this is our personal opinion, but I feel like we don't like the pod episodes as much because they feel a little drawn out and long and boring.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Get me to the honeymoon.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Yeah, we just want to get to Mexico or the drama. Yes, exactly. So I feel like if we had all of the episodes drop at once, we could kind of work our way through the pods um and get to the the good stuff faster and then kind of um I don't know, break up the way that we view it differently because I feel like we are mass-consuming the first six s episodes just to get out of the pods.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yep. Um yeah, I I feel like even going back to last season, I would have re-watched Joe on the honeymoon like 30 times over.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

You did, actually.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

I want to do it 30 more times, but you gotta get through them to get to the next episodes.

SPEAKER_04 3:05

Well, we'll talk about Joe a little bit. Maybe we woke up. Maybe. You know, we could do our own best moments in Love is Blind history. I know that Netflix has done this. We have our own, and that would be the top for us.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Are you coming in hot?

SPEAKER_04 3:21

Have you ever woke up before?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Good. We will see uh Joe later in this pod.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

I know we will. So uh you have that to look forward to. But first, let's get into episode 12.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Head versus heart.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

Head versus heart. So, as you recall, episode 11 ended with Mike and Emma's wedding. And we were left with a cliffhanger of Mike's decision.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

No, we weren't.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Okay, so maybe it wasn't a cliffhanger in the sense of um Mike's decision because we felt pretty confident that Mike was a no.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

When this episode started, I actually had forgotten that we were still on their wedding because Mike was that much of a no.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

But I actually thought he had already said no.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

Yes. Um unsurprisingly, Mike says that he does love Emma, but he needs the certainty of kids. So he says no. Emma does not look surprised.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Not in the least bit. She wasn't upset, she wasn't crying, she didn't run and fall down the hill like Giannina.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

Correct. He goes up then and hugs each member of her family, and they don't seem surprised, and they don't seem upset with him in the slightest.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

This is the least upset I've ever seen somebody in her family when a person gets I that wasn't Jennifer, quote unquote rejected. Unilaterally rejected.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

To be the person who said yes and then the other person said no. Like the families are usually like upset and freaking out, and they're upset, and her family was just like.

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Yeah, but we see the we see the families, the parents talking to each other, and they're all in complete alignment about how uh it's clear to me on both sides that neither set of parents wanted this marriage to happen. I I feel like they saw that there were some pretty big divides that were not going to be overcome in the accelerated timeline. That is love is blind, probably not ever. So I think everyone was happy with the outcome. I was happy with the outcome.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Yep, same.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

Uh, we also then see Emma and Mike talk to each other, and she says that she sees glimpses of a family and glimpses of a future, and she seems to indicate that by saying yes, she was acquiescing to all of that, which I don't believe.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 5:51

I don't believe this at all. Um, he doesn't believe it at all either, I can tell.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

So she said yes so that she didn't look like the bad guy.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

I agree with you. However, to me, it felt disingenuous. I would have liked to see her say no for all of the aforementioned reasons. That doesn't make her the bad person. That I agree. That makes her just seem very real and standing on her own business. She does not need to want to have kids.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

No, it just felt like she said yes so that she looked better. Don't love that.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

I agree. Um, we also see a producer ask Mike if Emma had had been a definite yes on kids, if he would have said yes, and he says that he thinks he would. Um, what do you think about that statement from Mike?

SPEAKER_01 6:47

I I feel like everything had passed at this point, and Mike was willing to say whatever so that he didn't look like a jerk, and because he didn't do anything wrong, so he was just like, yeah, sure, whatever. He looked checked out at that point to me.

SPEAKER_04 7:00

He did. And I guess it's tough to really know. I do feel though, if Emma had maybe not at the last minute, like she said she was definitely a yes, but I do think if Emma had been more of a yes throughout the season, that we would have potentially seen a different result.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Yeah, I do wonder, you know, you never know. Um, I wonder if she'd been yes on kids from the start, if he would have found something else. Or maybe not. Like maybe he really wasn't her, but you just never know.

SPEAKER_04 7:27

It really is tough to know because that was their whole storyline.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

And it was something he could hang his hat on as a way to get out. If he didn't like her. And I'm not saying he didn't, but if he didn't, that's like a guaranteed hook.

SPEAKER_04 7:38

Yes, agreed. And to your point, throughout the season, I didn't see a ton of chemistry from them.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

No.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

It was hard for me to really even determine if these two liked each other. And yes, there was this giant divide. So maybe that always, you know, clouded all of their interactions, at least from his perspective. I don't know. But just watching them, I didn't really feel like there was no spark there at all. Yeah, these two like really loved each other or really liked each other.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

I I never got that feeling, but to your point, maybe that was always in between them, anyways. But they weren't they didn't really seem to be that into each other.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

I agree. Uh not like us, not like the honeys.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Oh, come on. Get your hands off me.

SPEAKER_04 8:28

All right, should we move on? I don't think there's more to say about Mike and Emma.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Nope. Let's get to our favorite.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Our favorite. Jordan and Amber. Uh, we see Amber getting ready. She has a big Bridget Bardo hairstyle going on.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Which she's ready to roll. She seemed like from the first second we saw her, she was ready to say yes.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

I agree. Uh Amber acknowledges there's a lot of things going on with her daughter and her baby daddy and back and forth between Mount Vernon and Columbus. I have to say, is this the most visibility that Mount Vernon, Ohio has ever gotten?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Uh, the mayor and the Chamber of Commerce have to be so happy.

SPEAKER_04 9:15

I think they're gonna give Amber a key to the city. I don't know if Amber is really like selling Mount Vernon necessarily.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

I was gonna say that's a different question.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

But everyone is talking about Mount Vernon, not really asking questions about it, but just mentioning Mount Vernon.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

If they give her a key to the city, they might want to change the locks too.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Oh big honey with the jokes. Big honey with the dad jokes. Um, and speaking of dads, is Jordan ready to be one?

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yeah, sure. Um he's met he's met Emma at this point. Emma, Amber's daughter, not Emma. Not Emma on the cast. And uh his friends ask him about it, and he goes, Yeah, she's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 10:04

She's seven, right? I'm sure she's great.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Uh-huh. Yeah, I'm sure she is, but the way he talks about it is like just uh like have you met Amber's maid of honor? Yeah, she's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 10:14

Sh he met Emma, the daughter, the day before the wedding. I just feel like that needs to be called out. This whole situation, and we talked about this before, but it's is wild. This is not a normal, not that love is blind is a normal situation in any situation, but meeting a child the day before you are set to marry her mother feels irresponsible.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

And he mentions that he's still dead set on not moving to Mount Vernon.

SPEAKER_04 10:48

Yes, he does not want to move to Mount Vernon Vernon. His family is trying to get him to compromise. He says he's willing to move to German village, which is in the opposite direction of Mount Vernon, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

But her brother lives in G V.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

In G V. As we've learned to call it, and they like the neighborhood. I think he is failing to realize just the logistics of all of it. Uh Emma's father lives in Mount Vernon, her school is in Mount Vernon. I don't think it's that easy for Amber to just pick up and move to Columbus.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

No. Oh, yeah, of course. And you know, naturally.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

Did you notice that uh Jordan is cracking a PBR while he's having this conversation?

SPEAKER_01 11:35

He says this is my brewski of choice.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

Uh he also says he's never put this much into a relationship. Now I believe Jordan. I 100% believe Jordan on this point. But also, it's been a month.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yeah, I still believe it.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

We then meet Emma, who is very cute. Adorable. Very cute. Emma to me is giving a young Abigail Breslin circa 2005. Oh, was that um like Lil' Miss Sunshine days?

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Oh, I was thinking Zombieland.

SPEAKER_04 12:12

No, no, no, no. Much before Zombieland, before Zombieland. Very cute.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She uh super cute. And then they cut to Jordan and the ride over to the venue, and that dude is freaking out.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

Yes. Uh, we see Jordan talk to his sister. He says he doesn't know what to do. As an aside, though, I like Jordan's suit.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I thought Yeah, he he looked good.

SPEAKER_04 12:37

I thought it was a great color on him. I thought the plaid was nice. I mean, we see Jordan and plaid quite a bit, but I'm not upset about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

I think he Somebody once told him he looked good and plaid. He did run with that for the last time.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

He does look good and plaid, and I thought that the plaid uh suit coat was very nice. Uh yeah, I really thought that it was, like I said, a great color. I also really liked his bouton ear. I thought that that was nice. It's clear that he cared. He cared about his appearance on his wedding day. That sounds like an obvious statement, but as we'll see in a in a bit, not everyone cared what they look like on their wedding day. But Jordan looked great.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Did he spend too much time on his suit and not enough time on his vows?

SPEAKER_04 13:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Is that where all his effort went into that suit?

SPEAKER_04 13:28

Yes. Uh we see Jacob, Amber's brother there. He says that he feels like Jordan may need more time. And Jacob, the brother, says he'd be shocked if they both say yes. And when he said that, I felt like Amber was taken aback a little by that statement from her own brother. But again, editing, who knows how she actually felt. It's clear to me that maybe, you know, when we get to the altar, felt like they were hedging a lot, right? Like they were trying to make it okay to give Jordan an out.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Yeah, I I feel like everybody involved really thought Jordan was a no going to the altar.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

I thought Jordan was a no going to the altar.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Jordan thought he was a no going to the altar. Um, Amber gives up and gives really nice, heartfelt vows.

SPEAKER_04 14:20

Jordan's vows. I'm glad it's you up here. That's it. That man did not prepare any vows.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

That was it.

SPEAKER_04 14:28

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

I think he also threw in Amber, we put so much effort and love into this. I'm glad it's you up here.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Oh, okay. So that was the full vow. Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

I went back and rewatched it because I I thought I had missed something where they had like cut out like the first minute of his vows, and now that was it.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

Yeah. Uh not not much. Amber, however, says I do, but she understands if he has doubts. There's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Yeah, the I I don't remember ever seeing like a qualified yes before, where it's like, I'm saying yes, but I understand if you say no.

SPEAKER_04 15:03

That's that's tough. Can you imagine if that's what I said at our wedding?

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Like if you said I do, but I understand if you don't, and I was like, Oh, thank God.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

Yeah, I understand if you don't. I mean, like, you've met my family, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Cool. Thanks for being so understanding. Gotta go. But what does Jordan do instead?

SPEAKER_04 15:25

He says, I want to follow my heart and say that I do.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

And so the officiant looks at him and says, So your answer is?

SPEAKER_04 15:36

I think this is the first time that we've had to have an officiant clarify.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

Because he didn't say yes.

SPEAKER_04 15:42

He did not. He said he said what he wanted to do.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

I want to follow my heart and say I do. But he didn't actually say I do.

SPEAKER_04 15:51

So then the officiant clarifies, so your answer is, and Jordan says, I do.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

And the crowd goes wild.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

The crowd goes wild. They were clearly shocked, as we all were.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

I I'm still shocked that he said yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:07

In the moment, though, how did you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Oh, like the flashing sign of mistake was on the screen. He should have said no. He was gonna say no until like 10 seconds before he said yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

Yeah, and the then the pressure got to him.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

It did. We put so much effort into this. I'm glad it's you.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Like that was his house, man. Like he didn't expect to say yes. He didn't really expect to be there.

SPEAKER_04 16:34

In a way though, I I had hope. It did make me feel like maybe these two people can work it out. You know, if they want to work it out, maybe they'll find a way. I I did feel like so many things were against them, but I like them both. I think they're both funny. They both seem like they're good people, and that's hard to say this season, right? That they're both good people.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

So it really is. They were just clearly such a mismatch from the start.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

Yeah, a lot of things were misaligned, but I was hopeful.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

His hard nose were kids and moving away from downtown Columbus. Literally heard of like the biggest things.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

All right, so that that ends Jordan and Amber for now.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Yep. And then we get to Brittany and Devante's wedding day. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

So Brittany, uh, she we see them talking on a couch, right? And whenever talking on a couch, that's over. That's never a good sign. Brittany says, I love you, I see a life with you, I have the dress, the shoes, the lashes. She said she has family in town, but everything she wants is not happening right now.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Devante says She seems so out of touch with what's happening with this relationship.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

I have so many questions. I wish that I could I wish that I could either talk to Britney or and probably and I wish that I could also just review all of the footage they had. Because doesn't it feel like we are just missing something? Because Britney's reality just is not what we saw. And and it could be that it's just not.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

I yeah, I think it's I think it's her perception of what's really happening. I think what Devontae is doing and has done is not giving her firm like answers or anything, and so she takes that and runs with it, and just and we'll get circled back to this reunion. But his inability to actually tell her how he's feeling just because of her personality, then leads her on. Like she needs a hard if it's if you're a no, she needs that hard no so she can, you know, just hear that and move on. As soon as she doesn't hear a hard no, she just thinks this is a slight pause on on life and that she's holding on to that relationship until the no.

SPEAKER_04 19:20

These two are like it's like dumb and dumber, where she's she's just like, so you're saying there's a chance.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Yeah. He he doesn't even actually doesn't even bother to give her the one in a million speech. He just won't say anything, and and she literally, yeah, she does, she turns into Lloyd and just like, so you're saying there's a chance.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

It's it it it is tough to watch, it is hard. Um Devontae says he couldn't get to the altar, he can't do it right now. She interprets it as they're still together, they're still engaged, they're just taking a pause right now.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

She mentions that she hasn't met his family at all.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

We didn't know this, did we?

SPEAKER_01 20:05

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 20:08

She also says that she would have relented on a prenup. And I fully believe this. I think she would have taken whatever terms were necessary.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Remember when I mentioned hooks earlier for how to get out of a relationship or looking for a way out? That was Devante. He thought that was his hook, that she would just be a hard no on the prenup and that he could get out of it that way instead of telling her that he wasn't into her.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

Yes, this man cannot be direct. And it's it's frustrating. That is frustrating to watch.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

I just love well, yeah, because when they're like ending the conversation, he goes, uh, we'll be in touch.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

So yes, she wants to know to back up a little bit. She wants to know where they go from here. This was infuriating, but Devontae is says, Oh, I'm not a fortune teller. Um, I still have doubts, but I don't know. She's not picking up the signs. This man does not want to marry her. He doesn't want to date her, he doesn't even want to be her friend. She is not picking up what he is putting down because then she turns around and says, She's 99% sure they will get married.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Yeah. And then she calls him her best friend, who I hope who I hope will be my best friend again someday. That was tough.

SPEAKER_04 21:27

And then he goes back, he relents back. And this is frustrating to me because it feels like a child, like a petulant child. But he says the more he feels pressured to do something, the more he pushes back on it. And he also said that he feels like she's his shadow, like following him around into every room, and that he needs space. Which is that was that was tough to to watch as a viewer.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Yeah, I when there's a mismatch like this, normally it just kind of ends in flames. This one was a lot harder. Harder for me to watch because it just ended with one person still somehow clinging to the hope against all reality in their face about what was going to happen in the future. I'd rather have just like a blow-up fight and then they can move on.

SPEAKER_04 22:13

Yes, because he leaves again and he says, We'll be in touch, which is such a nothing, non-committal way to really, he should have ended the relationship. And he doesn't because this man feels cowardly, right? That he's afraid to have a hard time.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

He's like, Oh, we'll be in touch.

SPEAKER_04 22:32

The worst. And and she's an over-eager sales rep who's like, there's a chance.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Oh, yeah. I think I can close next. This deal will close next quarter.

SPEAKER_04 22:41

I'm gonna put this in commit. And then she says something that I felt was very sad, but also telling. She said that she's most fearful of having to start all over again if they don't work out. And she doesn't want to be vulnerable again. So I felt like is this a window into her psyche? The fact that she doesn't really love him or love this relationship. She just wanted the relationship and was so afraid to have to start over and find another relationship.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Well, you know how Jordan uh doesn't seem to put anything into his relationships? I have a feeling Britney puts everything into hers, and that's not a knock on her. That's just how she how she is as a person. So I think it's emotionally hard for her to restart relationships fresh because like she gets so emotionally invested. Unlike Jordan, who's like, uh, this is the best I've ever tried.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

So we have a goldfish and we have a penguin. I don't know. Uh these these animal analogies probably aren't great, but I really my heart was breaking for Brittany in this moment because I feel like she loves so much, she cares so much, and just watching this, it's like, why would you put all of that energy into Devante?

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Yeah, I I think that's the upsetting part is it it's great that she does put so much in, but not into this dude.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

Yeah, it was such a mis and and it's tough because it's not just the personalities that mismatch, but also the the packages that they're both in don't match. She's beautiful, and it feels like she would not have any trouble finding someone to be interested in her. He is, in my opinion, not at her level of attractiveness. Not even close. And she is just I I don't know. I don't know what she sees. I it's confounding to me.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Truly, truly. Are we gonna touch on the fact that or have we touched on the fact that he's not in her because she's not white? So he was pretty upfront about that in the past.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Yes. I do believe that that is true. I just can't I I can't handle that.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

I'm with you. I just wanted to mention it. That that that kind of seems to be a root issue with him.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

It it does seem to be. Uh he is also not white, so it is it is confusing. They are both they're both half black. She's half black, half Colombian. Colombian, and he's half black and half white. I mean, I don't know. I I get that that race is complicated for some people. We've seen that play out in other couples. I I can't understand where he's coming from. I just feel like I'm with you.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

I just wanted to mention it because it kind of seems to have underpinned their relationship the entire time. In my eyes.

SPEAKER_04 26:11

Yeah. You're probably right. I just in what world?

SPEAKER_01 26:16

I agree.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

You're a you're a Devante looking dude, and you have a beautiful woman, and you don't uh like her because she's not white. I I just make it I can't. I don't I I it doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't compute in my little brain.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Well, you know else who it doesn't compute for? Alex. Our next couple. That dude was very much into the dark features.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

He was.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

And including putting on a show in Mexico about it.

SPEAKER_04 26:51

Again, so confusing. These men and their beliefs uh just flying. They're very contradictory. We'll get to that later because I feel like there were interesting politics and dynamics that played out this season, but we can dive into that a little bit later. Let's get into Alex and Ashley's wedding.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

I the biggest surprise of the season for me was um in in the lead up to the wedding that Alex didn't use any soccer analogies at all.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

A really disappointing lack of sack soccer analogies in this uh wedding. My gosh.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

It's all he it's the only it's his only way of communicating. It's all he said was soccer analogies. Like he literally couldn't think of a way to express how he felt, including uh once again saying he was emotionally numb.

SPEAKER_04 27:44

Yeah, because he's describing it like a penalty kick. So you big honey has made Lil' Honey watch enough soccer over the years. And so I know about penalty kicks in the broad sense. So I understood what he was saying when he was describing a penalty kick as something that, and he's a goalie, right? So from his perspective, a penalty kick is an easier kick to make, right? The goalie isn't necessarily expected to save most penalty kicks. So I think he was describing the wedding as a penalty kick, meaning, like, there's no pressure on me to actually do my job, right? I can just show up.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Don't worry, Alex. None of us were you were expecting you to do your job.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Just show up and see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

And then he showed up looking like a cater waiter.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

Yes, he. Okay, as much as I was going on about how nice Jordan's outfit was and how it seemed like he had really taken time and care into picking it out and making sure that it fit properly. Uh, Alex did nothing. His his and his groomsman's tuxes looked so cheap compared to the others. Uh, they clearly were not tailored because that was the most ill-fitting tux that I have ever seen on anyone anywhere ever. Also, he was wearing like a fake bow tie.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

It was a clip-on.

SPEAKER_04 29:17

A clip on bow tie? What was happening?

SPEAKER_01 29:19

Uh it all just looks so cheap.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

Terrible.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Which is fine if you know, it's not like it was like that because it was all they could afford. Like the show is paying for all this. What were they doing?

SPEAKER_04 29:30

So I actually have some thoughts about this because yes, I believe the show gives them a budget for their wedding dresses and suits or tuxedos, whatever they pick out. I think it's I think they're given a budget.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Did he parlay some of the money into crypto?

SPEAKER_04 29:46

I think that they're like, they gave him his allotted budget. He was definitely not going, because sometimes I know if they want something nicer, they can spend you know their own money to upgrade. Alex was definitely not spending any money. And I'm sure the tailoring was extra. So Alex was definitely not spending any money on tailoring. So he just showed up looking like a mater D at your like local Italian restaurant. It was terrible, terrible. Uh on the on the contrary, though, his mom shows up. She looked great. She was showing up in the most sparkly disco ball dress. So to me, this was very on brand from what we know about his mother and his family. His mom was always about her own thing, right? She was showing up, she looks great. It was about her. It's not about Alex, even on his own wedding day.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

She ain't crazy. She knows she's about to show up on TV and she wants to look good. Who cares what her dipshit son's about to do?

SPEAKER_04 30:49

I agree. I'm with her on that point. She looked great. Um, his mom's very pretty. She did look great. I did really like her dress. Um, also, Ashley's mom. I really liked her mom's suit. It was giving real Kamala vibes to me.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

100% was.

SPEAKER_04 31:05

I like it.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Boss Lady.

SPEAKER_04 31:08

I liked it. Yeah. Um, that baby blue suit. It was was a baby blue. I anyway, I liked it a lot. Uh Ashley's dad, however, is so weird. He was he sounds like Mike Tyson, kind of.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

He does. I I'm a little lost on this guy. Oh, it I don't know. So I'm sorry, I wish I had more to say it, but it's like every time I watch him TV, I'm just like, this dude's a weirdo.

SPEAKER_04 31:33

Just weird. Yes. Very weird.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Um she gives a little insight into their uh her and Alex's relationship.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

When she says, There have been many conversations that I'm not Alex's type. He's kind of been making that clear the whole season.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

Well, this was interesting to me because we definitely saw this play out in Mexico, right? We had a whole we had part of an episode where he says that, and then we see the conversation with Britney, and Britney is his type.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

But we get we had the mud bass where he didn't want to have sex with her.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

Okay. The type conversation specifically hasn't come up since the honeymoon, but we have had a lot of insight into Ashley being dissatisfied with the um their lack of intimacy.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Um yeah. Because he's not into her.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Yes. And so she was probably attributing that to maybe not being Alex's type. He was obviously attributing it, attributing it to other things like she was on her period. So yes, they have clearly had some strife when it comes to you know their sex life. So she says that she's expecting a no.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

But she'd be thrilled if he said yes. For some unknown reason.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

She says that she's not everyone's everybody's cup of tea.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Quote, uh, who cares if they don't like me? I want to be with them.

unknown 33:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

This was a weird. She was she she's saying that she'd literally take anybody who would say yes to her.

SPEAKER_04 33:12

That is the way that this was coming off.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

It was mind-bottling.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

So we were under the impression that she would say yes to Alex. She would say yes to anyone. That's what she was leading us to believe. Uh, but then we get to the altar. And she played us. She done played us. And she knew. She knew she was playing us too.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

This was family knew she was playing us.

SPEAKER_04 33:41

She had a plan. She had a plan.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

And she executed.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

She had a script and she executed. I actually think I'm not sure if she knew who go like who goes first or not when it comes to uh the vows and the I do's.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

She did. She knew she was going first no matter what.

SPEAKER_04 34:01

Well, correct. Because the officiant asks Alex, um, and she they started with Alex, but she interrupts him.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

I know your answer, and it doesn't matter to me.

SPEAKER_04 34:13

I know you don't choose me, but I don't choose you either. And then she goes into a full diatribe about everything that she wanted to say to Alex that maybe she hasn't said throughout the course of their relationship, or maybe she has and we didn't see it. But she says after they left the pods, there was no effort, no intimacy. They were roommates. She said she felt confused after all of this con all of their conversations. Girl, I felt confused after all of their conversations. So I can only imagine how she felt.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Yeah. I the fact that they edited some of it out, I think was a gift to us. Because I I couldn't have handled listening to that dude anymore. I just mean over the course of the season.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

She said she used to ignore red flags. She said a year ago she would have said yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Saying no to you today is a win.

SPEAKER_04 35:06

Yes. He says he respects it, but he pushes back and says that he thinks he does have integrity because she says that he does it.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Well, he yeah, he after she walks off, he bro hugs it out with his Federal Reserve crypto bros and then defends himself very, very loudly in front of her entire side. They didn't leave. He did it right in front of everybody where he goes in on it and just like kind of shout, shout, defends himself to her side of the aisle, which was super awkward.

SPEAKER_04 35:43

I mean, Alex's mom comes out and says, Well, she flat out called him a liar, and that's not right. Alex's mom doesn't know what's gonna happen when the show comes out and we all watch it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

We're also burying the lead a little bit. How does his grooming look?

SPEAKER_04 36:02

So whenever we see the lead up to the weddings, they always have like a huge spread of like a continental breakfast and fruit. Sometimes they have like hamburgers and tacos and PBR, PBR uh laid out while they're getting ready. Well, it is clear that Alex partook in the croissants or whatever they had, because he left it all in his beard.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

He kind of looked a little disheveled.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Very disheveled. He was ungroomed. All of his groomsmen, you know, it was clear that they had gotten haircuts, they had trimmed their beards. Alex couldn't be bothered to do any of that. He looked low-key very homeless, which we all believe he is anyway.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Yeah, that's very fitting.

SPEAKER_04 36:52

So after uh the vows and the I do's that were not, his friends asked him if he wants to go check on her, and he says no. And I've always said, you know, you can tell a lot about a person by their friends, and I think this definitely holds with Alex. His friends were definitely like the douche crew, right? Uh Ashley called him a loser. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

And then she continues to go hard to her friends at her wedding reception, which isn't really happening, but they're all standing around drinking champagne and she's just blasting him. Very weird.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

It's a celebration, bitches.

unknown 37:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

Very weird. Like the whole thing kind of felt weird, but it was the ending that I was hoping for, that I was expecting. I did not think that these people should get married. I didn't think that they really liked each other, but I couldn't tell, right? It's it's hard to tell with the editing what's gonna happen. Because I did see a world where Ashley said yes the way that she was acting.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

Oh my goodness. It was a win that she said no.

SPEAKER_04 38:07

It was a win for all of us and the world. All right. So Vic and Christine.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Snooze. Good good for them, but snooze.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

Yeah, there's there's not a lot going on uh here. I mean, not no shade to Vic and Christine, but we all know they're gonna say yes. Christine meet meets Vic's mom and his sister. Uh-oh, what I will say, Vic's mom, the red fascinator. Love this. People don't wear enough fascinators to weddings anymore. I I love a good hat. I mean, outside of the royal wedding. But people should treat every wedding like it's the royal wedding.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

What's the dress code? Kentucky Derby.

SPEAKER_04 38:50

Yes. Everyone's so happy. Vic's Groomsman shows up and they've they've got sliders and onion rings.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Yeah. I wish we could have snuck in and just hung out and had some sliders and onion rings. Yes, it looked delicious.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

And you could have learned how to do the electric slide because Vic was teaching his friend how to do the electric slide.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

I was so offended that his friend didn't know how to do the electric slide. I know.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

He was.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Um, put me on blast on TV, bro.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

I know. I think Christine also doesn't know how to do the electric slide.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Oh, verified.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

But anyway, uh Vic's sister was the officiant. They both say yes, which was the least surprising thing of the whole season. And then we Congratulations, you two. Yes, congratulations. Mazelthoff. I'm sure you'll be happy for many, many years to come. Um, then we kind of see some wrap-up interviews from some of the other participants.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Nothing kind of shocking or crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

Mike said he was shocked by Emma's response, which I understand. Alex says he still needs a physical match that makes him very, very happy.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

The physical is still important to me. I'm not saying it's important to everyone else. Which was such a confusing quote.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Okay. So at this point, before we get into the reunion, do you think that these couples will still be together at the reunion?

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Vic and Christine, absolutely. Emma and Jordan, I had down as yes as well.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

What did you have?

SPEAKER_04 40:27

I had them as a no.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Vic and Christine?

SPEAKER_04 40:31

Jordan and Amber. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

I'm joking. Everybody knows Vic and Christine are still gonna be together.

SPEAKER_04 40:39

All right.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Are you ready to get in the reunion?

SPEAKER_04 40:42

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Okay, uh one other point of beef that I have uh to back up to the logistics of Netflix and Love is Blind. We kept waiting for the reunion to show up in the listing for Love is Blind, and it just kept never appearing. We kept checking it. We started another show, came back, and it was just never there. Because they have now decided in the 10th season that the reunion is its own listing on Netflix.

SPEAKER_04 41:15

This felt like a mistake.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

What the fuck was this?

SPEAKER_04 41:17

This this felt like a bug or a mistake or something unintentional because every other reunion is listed with the other. I know, I know. We should check it now and see if it's righted itself because that that was wild. Why wouldn't it be part of the season?

SPEAKER_01 41:31

I would I would go back and check it, but I'm too busy watching Bachelor Mansion Takeover. Yes, that's which is a whole nother conversation, but what a show.

SPEAKER_04 41:43

That is so, so far beyond the point. But I'm curious if the if anyone else saw this. So hit us up, let us know. But this confused us greatly uh because we we were missing it for quite some time.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

The dogs are upset too.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

Very. Anyway, the reunion.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Okay, uh I have another point of contention. The crowd of the reunion was a hundred and fifty former contestants. I'm not that interested in seeing all of the old people.

SPEAKER_04 42:29

So they didn't highlight most of them. So some of them we just got glimpses of in the crowd, and others, you know, had their moment to actually speak. I I liked, regardless of if I'm interested in them or not, I kind of liked that they brought them back because there were some surprises, right? They dug deep.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

They brought back uh they brought back people I never thought I'd see again.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

Yes, uh, from season one, Diamond and who is the other guy where I'm impressed you remembered any names.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

I don't remember these people.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Remember, like they got engaged and then they had that blow-up fight, and she threw a ring in the pool.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

Oh, the one at the pool. Oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:16

Uh, because he was by yeah. Oh, we I am so sorry that I forgot your name, but they were there. Um, you got Joe and Jordan as a couple.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

That was the one I really enjoyed because there's a world where they did this correctly, and it's like the fucking Muppets and Joe and Jordan are in the balcony just like giving their commentary. I would have even have taken a manicast version of the Love is Blind finale where it was from the perspective of Joe and Joe and Jordan.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

Yeah, I would have watched that.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Yeah. I would have watched that simulcast where they're just on another channel.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

I would have 100% dumbass opinions. Watch that. Cause I think that this was a key Difference between Denver the previous season and Ohio. I mean, Denver, we didn't have anyone get married, and a lot of people said that it was a failure of a season. But I wildly disagree. I liked Denver a lot. And what I want to call out when we look at you know Jordan and Joe compared to some of the men in this season, they were dipshits, to be sure. But they didn't seem overly uh like they didn't uh seem harmful.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

No, they were that's why everybody loved him so much, because they were just true dipshits, they were not malicious, they were not there to hurt anyone's feelings, they were just so fucking dumb. Like Joe, especially, like, oh my goodness, that was not an act. He he he was so delightfully dumb, and yeah, actually, he kind of physically hurt her because he forgot to tell her where the door was and she walked into it, but it's still funny, right? And because if you're going blind, do not trust Joe with your life.

SPEAKER_04 45:15

Correct. No one should trust Joe with their life, but also when they broke up, and they broke up because he wasn't into her, which is very common in Love is Blind. We see it every single season. But he didn't make it more than that. He didn't, she was clearly upset by it.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

He didn't have the emotional capacity to make it more than that, which was kind of perfect, but it didn't go deeper.

SPEAKER_04 45:41

It didn't go deeper, it wasn't you know an indictment on whether or not she does Pilates.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Um I mean she No, he was just like, I'm done. Thanks for hanging, thanks for boning. Anyway, so yes, the crowd was 150 of the former Love is Blind contestants, and then they stuck some family and friends on the periphery, which felt a little cold design.

SPEAKER_04 46:09

Yes, and the couples were kind of front and center, the married couples, because they are the crown jewel of the Love is Blind franchise.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

No, they're not. Shake was not there, Shane was not there, they're not married. No, but they are the crown jewels of the Love is Blind franchise.

SPEAKER_04 46:26

So you bring up a really good point. I don't think I saw anyone from season two.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

I was thinking about that earlier today. Uh nobody from season two Chicago that I saw was there, which is uh interesting. I don't want to say it's an oversight. Maybe they invited them and they didn't show. That was a really good season with some really interesting people who mostly seem to have moved on.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

Yes, and don't seem to really want to have a lot to do with the Love Is Bland brand Love is Blind franchise. They don't seem to be parlaying.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Love is Blind was Minnesota.

SPEAKER_04 47:01

Love is Blind was Minnesota, they were there.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Oh, especially that dude wearing his sweater vest.

SPEAKER_04 47:08

Okay, we'll get we can get into that later. That sweater vest was terrible. But and it's not like the Love is Blind Chicago people didn't parlay it into other opportunities to be on other reality shows because we definitely saw Shane on Perfect Match. We thought we saw Shake on House of Villains.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Much to the dismay of Jax. Do you remember that? He turned on Jack.

SPEAKER_04 47:38

I love okay. Jax was like, I can hear you. House of Villains is so great. I love that Shake and Jax were beefing because it it's just the crossover was brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

And I love that Shake actually became friends with bananas and they were kind of in an alliance, which speaking speaking of Simulcast that I would watch, Bananas and Shake just hosting a show. Fuck yeah, give me that every day of the week.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

I know. So I think we probably saw people from every season, but Chicago was noticeably missing for me.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:13

Not that I was really clocking everyone, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

I mean, there were so many people. You're right.

SPEAKER_04 48:17

I I'm sure they invited them because I feel like they didn't really exercise any discretion with who they invited.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

That was first come, first serve.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

I think I saw Tyler in the audience.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Oh, from DC? Yeah. Oh, good lord. Did he bring his whole family?

SPEAKER_04 48:33

Pro No.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Oh, I that he lied about.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Is he is he owning up to the fact that he has a family yet? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

So these aren't my kids. They're just three children that I happen to be the dad of that came with me to the reunion.

SPEAKER_04 48:46

That call me dad.

SPEAKER_01 48:47

That call me dad.

SPEAKER_04 48:48

And we wear matching Christmas pajamas.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah, but these these aren't my my actual kids. And biologically.

SPEAKER_04 48:54

Anyway, we digress.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Well, yeah, because they started with Vic and Christine, and then I fell asleep for 10 minutes. And uh one of them said, My friends told me that you're too boring to be on reality TV.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

That was Christine and they were right.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Correct. I didn't even write down who said that because I was so bored I couldn't bother to be bothered.

SPEAKER_04 49:14

Your friends really know you. Good aw good awareness.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

Whoever whoever cast Alex All-Star, put him in the Hall of Fame. Whoever cast Christine and Vic, oh good Lord, fire them.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

So here's I think it became clear that they were never really intending to follow Vic and Christine. I think once Chris and Jess imploded, which they did pretty early, I think they had to rush kind of back film some scenes to make it seem like they had been there all along and stitched together a whole edit for Vic and Christine because they were really worried that they were gonna have a no-wedding, a no-wedding season again, and they didn't want to do that after Denver. And they honestly they should have had a no-wedding season because none of these couples should have said yes except for Vic and Christine. So I think this was kind of a a scramble.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Yeah, 100% agree. So they get them out of the way.

SPEAKER_04 50:27

They do, but actually, to that point, was it TurboTax?

SPEAKER_01 50:33

Oh, yeah. They got a second honeymoon sponsored by TurboTax because they'll now be doing taxes as a filing as a married couple.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

So what I want to know is, did they just get a honeymoon or did TurboTax gift them a tax professional who would also be doing their taxes? It was unclear to me.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

Yeah, we had we oddly had more follow-up questions about the TurboTax promotion than we did their wedding.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

Correct. No, finding an accountant accountant that you can trust is not that easy. Shout out to Jerry, shout out to Jerry.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Also, in my head, they just sent them right back to that house in Malibu.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

I know. They that was the main question. Where are you going on the honeymoon?

SPEAKER_01 51:17

They never said they they got in a limo and they just drove him right back to that goddamn Airbnb. And they were like, seriously.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

Here's the cornhole. Have fun, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

And and your turbo tax assistant will be here the entire time with you.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Yeah, in order to get you free tax services, we had to go with Malibu vacation.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

All right, so we get Vic and Christine out of the way, thank goodness. Uh, because we get to our next uh married couple that we last saw was married, Amber and Jordan. Are they still married, little honey?

SPEAKER_04 51:57

Well, they made it four months, which I actually think is pretty good for these two. Yep, I actually agree. Because I feel like that's four times longer than their initial relationship.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

He woke up the next morning and completely regretted saying yes. Or I do.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

I think.

SPEAKER_04 52:12

I mean, actually, they're probably still legally married at this point.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:16

Yeah, it takes a while to do all that paperwork.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:21

And they don't seem like people who want to do paperwork or would necessarily be good at paperwork.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

Correct. Uh I do have to say, I thought this was gonna be really funny, and it actually could turn kind of sad in a hurry.

SPEAKER_04 52:33

It did turn sad. Why did you think it was gonna be funny?

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Oh, because she's such a spark plug and fire plug, or whatever. I mean, Amber being issued because she's so funny.

SPEAKER_04 52:43

Amber is really funny. She really is, and she was funny.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

She was uh later.

SPEAKER_04 52:49

Later, but the relations the dissolution of their relationship, I agree, wasn't funny. It was sad, and it felt very real to me because everything they described, we knew were going to be challenges.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Yeah, and then there was more though, too. Um, Jordan says, You know how many incidents there were. He was best man at a wedding. She missed the ceremony, but then showed up for the reception, got blackout drunk, and then just screamed at Jordan in the hallway in front of everybody.

SPEAKER_04 53:21

So I have a thought about this because initially they were kind of going back and forth about putting effort into the relationship. She was saying that he wasn't putting any effort into it and he wasn't coming to Mount Vernon, and he was saying, Well, I would drive up there and you know, make you dinner, but then I'd have to get up at five and go back to the city to work. I'm pretty sure he works at home. So I think, and then she would say that he just wants to go out downtown Columbus with all of his friends, and why wouldn't you want to be home with your wife?

SPEAKER_01 54:00

In Mount Vernon.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

In Mount Vernon. So I feel like these two were just at an impasse. I feel like he would have wanted to go out with her, but she has a child, so that was never gonna be their lifestyle. He wasn't ready to give up, you know, not being able to go out, he wasn't ready for a life in the suburbs.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

No, he the only way this show was working out for him is if he matched with somebody who didn't have children and still wanted to go out and hang out in downtown Columbus, which is totally fine.

SPEAKER_04 54:30

Which is totally fine, and I think that's hopefully what he finds. I also feel that because she kept pressing on him, not putting in effort, that's when he was bringing up how she would yell at him, and it was uh wasn't a healthy relationship because she would become angry.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Yeah, she says, I know I have some anger issues. Everyone knows, everybody knows. Everybody knows that.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

Like, yeah, so that's stuff. And then he brings up, I think because she was pushing, then he brings up the story about how he was best man at his best friend's wedding, and she shows up drunk and screams at him in the hallway. I'm sure he was drunk too. I'm sure everyone was drunk at this wedding, just knowing the cast of characters that we're dealing with. But then he says that he puts her in her car, and then she frames it as, Well, you left me, and he's like, You're drunk, and I took away your keys because I didn't want you to drive home. It sounded like a mess. Yeah, he she ended up Ubering herself all the way back to Mount Vernon. It sounds like a lot of the the the fissures and the problems that we saw on the show continued. Because we we saw how they fought. Yeah, it it wasn't a great way to communicate. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

And then she storms off.

SPEAKER_04 55:55

She wasn't doing herself maybe any favors by storming off when that was kind of one of his key points.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

What I enjoyed about the storm off was it felt pre-planned, and I actually kind of enjoyed that because the next time somebody tells me that soap operas are dead, I'm gonna replay them these 10 minutes of television.

SPEAKER_04 56:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Don't tell me soap operas are dead because I just watched one.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

Yeah. I also like that she showed up with the same hairstyle as the wedding. I really felt like she was like, this is working, let's run it back. So I mean, I I liked that Amber comes back and I After a pre-planned interview break with some of the people in the airport.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Yeah, I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 56:36

I don't care about like the interview breaks that that were happening.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

So no, I just meant like it wasn't like production was scrambling. They were like, oh, right, and this is when we throw it to Cameron.

SPEAKER_04 56:46

So the best part about when Amber comes back is she's calmed down and she's and she says, I don't think Jordan's a bad guy. He's not like Chris.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yeah, she somehow collected herself in the hallway and then just redirected all of her anger at Chris.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

Which was the best. That's appropriate. That's appropriate. She's like, she's not like Chris. Chris is the reason why I hate men. He's he's a douchebag.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

She's just like kept going in on him. And then she And we hadn't even talked to Chris at this point. This came out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_04 57:18

And then she doesn't stop at Chris. She's like, O'Connor, you're okay. Vic's great. Mike, Mike's okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

She just goes down the list.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Yeah, she was like, Mike, I don't know you enough. Mike was like, No, no, no, I'm fine. That like like that's that's uh totally cool. I'll I'll take that.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

And I'm not trying to catch any strays here. She weirdly leaves Alex and Devante out of this, though. I would have loved her opinions on them.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Oh, I think she has some.

SPEAKER_04 57:46

Oh, I know she has them. Um, but we don't we don't get to hear them.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

Yeah, maybe there weren't strong opinions. I think she probably just thinks they're tools and like they are, but doesn't have the hatred that she does for like Chris.

SPEAKER_04 57:59

She should, though. But I think she was just close. It's clear that Amber and Jess are close friends.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Yeah, there's we'll get into this more, but there's definitely a split, and I think it shows there.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

Yes, so her vitriol toward Chris, I think, stems a lot from that. And I love it.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

It made me so happy.

SPEAKER_04 58:15

He's funny.

SPEAKER_01 58:16

He Chris Chris hadn't said a word. They hadn't addressed him, like it wasn't his time yet. He's sitting back there quietly, he's not piping up at all. He literally has done nothing at this point, and he she just turns around and it just blasts him nowhere.

SPEAKER_04 58:30

I loved it. So, my thesis, and we've mentioned this before, but I'm gonna double down on it. Amber, great friend. We'd want to be friends with Amber.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

I think that she's you know, ride or die. I think she's a great friend to uh her girls. I think she's she's the best. She's aces. Amber, maybe not the best in relationships. There's probably some work to be done there.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

No, and I uh yeah, absolutely. I also think maybe at times she's not the greatest friend in the sense that like if you get in a fight with your boyfriend, she's ready to burn the dude down, which is which is great.

SPEAKER_04 59:21

That's great.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

But when you reconcile them with your boyfriend the next day, she doesn't let it go, and she's still ready to chop him up.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

When you need her to like understand that you have reconciled after maybe what might be even like a small fight, and she's like, no, we should just murder that guy.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

Yeah. No, I stand, I stand with that. That's the way we are. That's that's a hundred percent us. We're not gonna forget. It's okay. It's okay if you reconcile, it's okay if you forgive him. We don't have to forgive him.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Yeah, but then they show up to your wedding and and it's an issue. If Amber comes to your wedding, she's just looking at that groom like, oh, that's the motherfucker right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Again, this feels very familiar to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

No comment.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:17

I have been on both sides of this, and I would rather have that friend. I would rather have that friend than not. Okay. So Amber, we love you.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

We will be friends with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

We will be friends with you. It's clear that she left this, maybe not with a husband, but with some some very good friendships that she has and is maintained, and she has Emma. So I feel like Amber is in the positive. She's not positive from the from the experiment.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

Um man, we then moved to Brie and Connor and talk about a couple that is actually still together.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:03

This shocked me. I was very surprised. Were you not?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

I was so surprised.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Yeah. I mean, I've heard other people say that they were not surprised. I don't know how, because when we left Brie and Connor, after she went on that whole diatribe about how he didn't give a shit about anything and she hated his house, his clothes, his car, his job, everything. I was shocked that he wanted to be with her after that. So I feel like this is another one where I feel like we missed a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

Well, even not specific to these two. We've been down this road a ton of times where a couple will break up and like at the wedding, before the wedding, wherever, and they're like, Oh, we just need more time. We're gonna just keep working on it. And then it never works out. You get to the reunion, and they're like, Oh, you know, we we we went on two dates and then he ghosted me, or whatever. It just you know, like you get out of the experiment and you're back in the real world, and uh you just sort of move on. People slide in your DMs, whatever. But these two are actually still together. And to your point, uh, why? What what on earth is he seeing in her that he's like, yeah, I want this.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

So actually, this would be a I I'd love your perspective on this because I can I can see it from Brie's standpoint. I can see that she takes a step back, gives it some time, realizes that he Connor is good for her, he does love her. She I believe that Brie had such an idea of the type of dude that she wanted to be with, right? Her father, right? This this alpha, I'm in charge, I make the money, I make the decisions. We get an idea that that's who G Daddy, or what was his name? G-Man.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

G-Man.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:08

That's who G-Man is, and that idiot Chris was in her ear the entire time talking about how he's gonna push her and motivate her and how she needs an alpha. So she had this rhetoric rolling around in her head, and I think it got to her. And I don't know what else was going on in her life, or she just kind of crashed out because she kept alluding to the fact that she wasn't her best. I don't know what that meant. We never got that information, but she clearly wasn't handling it very well. So I'd like to think that when she gave it some time and all of that noise went away, she realized that actually being with like this toxic alpha male isn't actually what I want. This is a nice guy who loves me, and that's how I that's how I actually want to be loved. And I maybe think she came to the point, which this is something that I've known forever, that she actually wants to be in charge, that she wants to be the alpha. She doesn't want some dude telling her what to do. I might be projecting here.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

Might be.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Yeah, okay. So I'm projecting here, but I like to think that she came to that conclusion and was like, I don't mind a guy that I can boss around, or because quite frankly, she was still kind of mean to him. She's still sort of like cutting to him. He does not seem to mind. I think she needs that because if she were with a dude who is going to clap back at her every time she insults him, which is all the time, that's gonna be a tumultuous relationship. There's gonna that's not gonna work out as well. So that's my read on kind of breeze journey. I don't know what Connor is thinking.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Connor actually should have looked at her and just said, TFL. Too fucking late. Because the thing about that whole season was Connor put down a whole bunch of really good game tape. If the women are scouting, Connor put down a whole bunch of good game tape. He showed who he is. Uh Wartz and all, like, hey, hey, maybe you don't like his place, maybe you don't like the cake up back. But he showed exactly who he is. He was a kind guy. He defied a little bit of expectations. You thought there's some anger, but turns out he's just kind of chill and like whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:35

Yeah, I thought that there would be anger that never came out.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:38

No, he's super chill. He just wants to bro out in his little man cave, which we find out is actually in Cleveland, and he sent some Columbus.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:48

I didn't we did not realize that they were not in the same city.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

That probably they do mention that that probably had something to do with it. He says he moves next door to her, and then she's like, Yeah, we refer to his place as the basement. Like she can't stop insulting him. She can't that guy that guy in his draft year put together a whole bunch of good tape and he should not be with her because uh there are plenty of good women out there who will watch that tape and want to draft him. Yeah. Like a number one pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:17

I I don't think that you're wrong. However, you've mentioned that you maybe you and certainly your friends like them spicy? Yes, and just want to be told what to do because it's easier.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

Yeah, but she's different, man. She's cutting, she kinda sucks. Like she's not fun, cheeky, spicy. Like you. Yeah, you're adorable, spicy. Man, she's she's there's some bitterness there. There's like it's not fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:54

And yet they well, time will tell. Yeah, time will tell. Time will tell.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

I I think I think he I think he makes a trade.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:04

Speaking of sports analogies, but she claims that they're headed toward the altar. Now I don't know that this yeah, I don't I don't know. They haven't moved in together, so we can she can say they can say whatever they want. Maybe it's too soon for them to move in together. I I don't know. I'm I reserve some healthy skepticism for them. But I was just surprised that they were together and seemingly happy. But yeah, yep, good for them.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:38

Uh, and just to quickly, as the transition, they start asking her about Chris, and she says, Yeah, she should have shut down that conversation that pins sooner. A lot of this feels like kind of like hindsight, like for like forced contrition. Yeah, like you watched it back and you were like, oh shit, versus like in the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:58

Well, it's not and not even watching it back, like the internet has spoken, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

There's yeah, she's been pretty clear that she's been shocked at the reaction.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:08

And I think continues to be shocked. I'm sure you know, she and look, maybe we shouldn't be as hard on Brie as we are because it's hard to know what it's really like until you're in that situation, and that situation is so, you know, specific and not like the real world. But what I will say is I don't buy that she was like, Oh, I I was just caught off guard and I didn't know what he was saying, and uh I didn't know what to say. And I I feel like we only see a portion of what is filmed, so once you see that conversation going in a certain way, I feel like you can just walk away. It's easy to walk away and say, I don't want to have this conversation, especially because I wasn't sure what her motivation was, if she was still into him in any way. I don't think she was. I think she liked the attention from him. But I now after sitting with it, I believe her that she was never going to leave Connor for Chris.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:20

Right, right. So Yeah, so why entertain that conversation for that long? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:26

Right, especially when you know, it's it's not just that he's inappropriately hitting on you, it's also you know, like tacitly condoning all of the terrible things that he said to your friend, which is not okay. A little baby is sleeping.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Yeah, I'm holding a little for a baby. Um yeah, I I I yeah. A lot of that was uh confusing. It felt like she kind of knew what she had to say and then just like was trying to get through it as quickly as possible. Um Nick Lachey. Okay, I gotta pause here. I have to give Lachey's credit. So we the this is reunion 10. Reunions one through nine, a constant criticism point of criticism was that they let people skate on their terribleness and and didn't give them the for the mass fans out there, didn't give them the Kfrage treatment. They would like like literally some of the worst people, they would ask them one or two questions and just and just move on. Uh my theory, which you don't support, but my theory is Anderson Cooper recently left CNN in 60 Minutes, and so he was available to freelance, and so he wrote all of their questions for them because the Laches got in on people.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:00

They definitely came correct. Yes, credit where credit's due. The liches did a pretty great job.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:07

They really did. And especially in the past, it was all fluff, and I get it because it's love is blonde, it's supposed to be fun and cheeky, but you get to that reunion, and there's some like serious questions there, and there's some you know, you gotta dig in a little bit. And in the past, they just wouldn't do it, and they went in on this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:23

They did, they did, and they should have. And a point that I have been thinking about is it because they had to? Because what I will say about this season to me is that it feels like there's been a fundamental shift where in the past, yes, there's been some bad behavior, there's been a lot of things that we don't like, but it didn't feel overly like super problematic or super dangerous or malicious.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Yeah, there was that one dickbag who allegedly had a fiance on the outside, Trevor. And they roasted that dude, the dude with the hair plugs.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

He felt like an existential threat to the show because he clearly had somebody on the outside.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:17

But he wasn't even main cat.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:18

He wasn't even like they brought him back on the reunion and they did roast him, and they just roasted him, so it's like protect this house. And yeah, this season felt like a little bit of a turning point where there was just a lot of shitty behavior, and a lot of people were like, we gotta make sure that it's known that this is not okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

Yes, however, even Trevor, he was going on for like attention and to um like raise awareness for uh some gym, right? That he was starting. So, yes, he I think he allegedly had a girlfriend or a fiance, and then you know, he tried to get engaged to Chelsea. This all felt like kind of like a scam, right? Like he was just trying to like get attention. He didn't feel like he was trying to hurt Chelsea in any way, or you know, I got you.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:12

So you think the theory, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:16

If you're trying to scam on Love is Blind, the institution, okay, fine, whatever. Like Vanessa Lachey was really mad about it because we have to protect the sanctity of the experiment. Okay, calm down. It's it's all it's all fake. It's all fake. This feels different to me because these dudes, I feel like, are maybe signifying like a greater shift. And I don't want to extrapolate this into you know, broader, you know, I don't want to paint too broadly with a brush to make any sort of overarching statements about where we're at as society or where young men are at when it comes to dating and relationships. I just the season felt a little felt different to me. The behaviors that we were observing felt differently, and it did feel like maybe a little bit of a broader issue that we're seeing.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:18

Yeah, if I I think this is the first season where I noticed the manosphere.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:23

Yes, and politics have never really been at the forefront of any other season.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Yes, last season we and in Minnesota, there there's been some mentions of it, but But Minnesota's traditionally been uh as uh in Minneapolis, like uh Twin Cities, an area where politics has been at the forefront for a few years now. You know, like so you would expect that to be a talking point. It's been a huge flash point, but it felt like maybe it was part of that, but even there they didn't talk about too much man this season. It really felt like the MAGA versus the Libs.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:04

Yes, and I know that they cut out a lot of a lot of it because I think it was Kia who has said that she would go in, and that would be the first question that she asked. And Jess obviously felt very strongly in her beliefs, and so they would weed out a lot of men because they were all MAGA, and we didn't see, and even though we didn't see a lot of that, it was still very clear that politics played a huge part in this season, and we haven't really seen that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

Yeah, it'll be interesting moving forward.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:41

It like in it because it felt because it feels like it made me question, quite frankly, is Love is Blind MAGA?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

No, I don't think it's MAGA. I I think the show tries to edit that stuff out because that's not what it's about, and that's not what they're about.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:59

But it was clear that they left it in in certain cases where they didn't have to, like Alexander.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:05

Well, quite frankly, uh they were airing this uh in the middle of trying to get approval for a takeover of Paramount from this administration. So I don't think they were in the market to look anti-MAGA.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

So it was So I think they were being very intentional, but that was a very intentional. Well, they didn't leave it all in, but they left Well, yeah, they they didn't uh they left Because they weren't they weren't showing the women automatically disqualifying men.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:35

Right. That's what I'm saying. I don't think they want to keep that in. If if if any talk of politics is tertiary to the conversation, we'll leave it in, but they're not gonna show them going to the pods and being like, who'd you vote for?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

But they left it in to the Ashley's dad and Alex conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:56

Yeah, because it it seemed like fitting for them to leave it in, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:00

I think that was a choice. I think it was a choice, and I think your point is valid. I think in a lot of those other conversations, it wasn't painting the current administration in a positive light where that conversation it was because they were in alignment about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:16

So well, guess what? They didn't get that, so they don't have to worry about editing that anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:21

They did it. Sorry, that was a tangent.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:25

The reunion next season is gonna be at Joe Biden's house.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:28

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:29

He was like, screw it, we give up. Um so Nick, uh to and circling back to the Laches in the job that they've done, Nick goes in on Chris.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:40

And rightfully so. Yeah. I did think it was weird how Nick Lachey kept framing it all as Ohio men.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:49

He this is just common human decency. This doesn't have anything to do with being from Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:54

I think on Calchee, the over-under was 42 and a half on Nick Lachey mentioning how many times he's from Ohio. So he had to make sure he got that in. Um, Chris says watching it back, Chris is very contrite. He clearly had, and I think this is important. I mean, especially when you're in the villain, like he had a game plan coming in. If it's gonna be, I'm gonna be contrite. Um, I'm gonna say I'm not proud of what I did, and then he just kind of stopped. Like he kept saying as little as he possibly could, and it was really frustrating with Lachaise, but I think it was smart gameplay on Chris's part because if you don't say anything, you can't bury yourself.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:30

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:31

He he if because it felt like he kept ending sentences like halfway through, and Lachays were kind of looking at him like ready for him to finish his thought, but he was like, No, that like that's it for me. You're not gonna you're not gonna get me to bury myself.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

No, it's smart. This is the this is the playbook for anyone who's ever been in trouble before, right? You say nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:51

Yeah, just shut your fucking mouth, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:53

Like say nothing. And then, you know, don't speak to anyone without a lawyer and then only answer the question.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:02

And only speak when spoken to. Don't give them anything else.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:06

Yeah, because like Nick went back in, back in on him, and Chris was just like kind of like struggle, like, I got nothing more for you, bro. Like, I'm not gonna say anything more on TV that makes me just look bad because he already looks bad. That's what I'm saying. Like, he is so I think it was smart on his part to not look worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:22

And speaking of looking worse, what was going on with that Johnny Cash outfit? His Bradley, Bradley Cooper's haircut, and his Marco Rubio high heels.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:36

Look, he he went in with a game plan, and that included growing his hair out for some reason. And that was just the look he was going for.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:45

Nah, good. I I did not like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:48

Uh they ask Jess about Chris, and she says that he has massive financial insecurity. Um you know what Chris had to say about that? Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:01

Well, he said it w he didn't feel that he was insecure. It was really about the physical connection. That was maybe his only I actually thought, look, if you he knew that he had one job to do to make it out of the reunion with as little um taking as as few bullets as possible because he knew he was gonna get them. I think he uh managed okay, because there's no way he was gonna come out of this looking uh good. I do think that he should have maybe been more contrite in this situation when she accused him of being insecure. He could have just said, yep, probably was. I probably was.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:44

No, it's not his DNA to admit that.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:48

But to double down on, no, it was just that I wasn't physically into you. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:53

Look, he can't 100% change from where he was before, so that was a step too far apparently for him.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:00

But I love that everything that we interpreted from the show was accurate. I liked that. She clearly clocked that he saw her house and her success and freaked out because he was massively in debt and had none of that and needed to bring her down by acting like he and his massive Charles Schwab account. Well, we're gonna just take Breed of the Four Seasons.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

Oh god. Well, uh Jess does not have to worry about that, hopefully anymore, with her new boyfriend who's some rando. I do not remember this dude at all from the pods.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:42

I don't think we really saw him in the pods, but he's a doctor and they're together.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

And then one of the worst decisions ever, they just give the man a microphone to give a speech. I and I wrote, I actually wrote him in his someone please take the mic away. Okay, so he's very online, and he gave what sounded like an Instagram caption.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:05

Yes, drove me crazy. Okay, okay, all right. I agree. I felt a little bit too flowery, a little bit too much. But after all that Jess has been through this season, let him have it. Just let him have it. No, yes, no, look, if you had to be like if your body was criticized, I'm not sure. No, I'm all for her.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:27

I just meant like this guy shouldn't have been given airtime.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:30

But she, but he was just giving her her flowers and complimenting her.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:34

I think it's okay that that those phrases, he just kept talking in those phrases. That's that's you gotta give her flowers.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:43

I mean, just he just wants to compliment her. I think that I was okay with it. I was okay with that. I think that he actually was sincere. I choose to believe that he was sincere sincere. She I think she deserved to have that do-over with a partner who actually seems to really like her and is successful, and I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

Yeah, I like I felt like we could-I just didn't need to hear from him.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:14

We could wrap all that up. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:16

Bye-bye, Randall.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:18

It's not about us.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:18

Bye-bye, Randall.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

I don't have to love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

Bye-bye, Randall.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:21

And they're fine. I don't remember his name, but all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:24

So then they go to Mike and Emma. Um He clearly thought going in that she was gonna say no.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:34

Yeah, they said they talked about it, and this makes so much sense to me. Like it was clear that they were on two different pages, they agreed to say no. He follows through, she doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

So then they ask him if they're dating anybody.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:48

And do you notice though, how Vanessa Lachey cuts in and she's like, we encourage people not to make a decision before the altar because you never know what's gonna happen. I love that Mike thinks that everyone's gonna be on his side, and then Vanessa comes in like, no, you did it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:09

No. Yeah. But also making snap judgments at the altar.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:16

Um Has that ever worked out in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:18

Well, literally, this is literally 30 minutes after Jordan, who made a snap judgment, uh, is detailing how horrible his life has been since he said yes. Um, so Emma says that she's still single because she's working on herself. I take that to mean that she's still single because not because she chooses, but because she hasn't found anybody. But I I always love the phrasing of I'm still single because I'm working on myself.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:45

Well, she clearly is very online too and has seen all of the discourse about her because she made sure to mention that she was in therapy, which I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:55

Nobody asked.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

I don't think she needed to, but it has been a thing that people have come at her about. I don't I don't think all of that was deserved, but she the fact that she brought it up makes me believe that she's been reading all of the the Reddit comments and felt like she needed to address it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:13

Is is Mike still single? He is not. Oh, are you kidding me? The catch of New Jersey? Of course he's not single. Guess what he found?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:21

Found a nice Italian woman who presumably wants a whole baseball team of kids.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

Yeah. Congrats, Mike and Tara.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:28

Oh, is that her name? Yeah, great.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:31

Um and then we get back to the frustrating one. Uh Nick then turns the spotlight to Alex and Ashley. And I think I would say more, but I think I was pounding my head into the wall this entire time. It's so frustrating.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:47

Okay, so if we applaud Chris, I can't even believe I'm saying that. But if we say that he handled the reunion exactly in the way that he should have.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:58

The only way he could have.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:00

Alex did not get that message.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

Uh he tripled down. Can you triple down on something? He tripled down on his behavior. Nick calls him out for his shifting stories, and Alex says, Can you point to the changes? Alex kind of like went back hard at Nick Lachey, which I thought was fascinating.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

He didn't, which was never gonna end well.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

No, because Nick was ready for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:19

Well, and the world was ready for it, right? We've all been clocking his shifting stories. Um, and if you are going to say that, you need to come correct, and he couldn't, because Nick just responds with, Well, I think Ashley had some issues with your changing stories, and then they keep going back and forth. They bring up Austin again. Austin had such a prominent spot in this season's reunion.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:49

He says he's lived in Austin three times in the past four years.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:52

Well, that's a changing story.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:53

Yeah, that was new.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:54

Because on the show you claimed that you never lived in Austin, that you were thinking about moving to Austin.

unknown 1:27:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:00

And now all of a sudden you live there three times.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:03

Yeah, which leads him to my question of I'm still not sure what he considers living somewhere. Like when he goes on vacation, he's like, Well, I lived in New York.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:11

Yeah, I don't actually think he They're in LA, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

Does he think he's lived in LA because he was in the pods?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:17

I don't believe he lived here. He might have, I mean, I'm sure he spent time here.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:24

I don't think he actually had a lease here.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:26

No, I don't think so either. He mentioned sub blooding or something. I and then they asked him about uh why he didn't see a wife in Ashley, and he says the first domino to fall was that she didn't have brown hair.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:38

Yes, but then there were other things.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:41

Oh, I'm sorry that her brown hair was the first domino to fall. I it was I I guess I turned around leaving listening to him. Whatever. His her physical appearance was the first domino to fall. Which is so it must be so gaslighting for her because her family and her friends only refer to her as Barbie. So clearly there's a lot wrapped up in her physical appearance. And Alex's whole beef with her is her physical appearance.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:12

Yeah, she they clearly have not um come to terms with each other post-wedding. Um but we learn is this when we learn about Alex's current living situation.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:29

Yeah, because it's so interesting. Um he's in Phoenix even though at the end of the show he had a job offer in Florida and he kept talking about Florida, but he has since moved to Phoenix instead.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:41

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:42

And he has a roommate.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:44

He has a new roommate.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:46

And who's his roommate?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:48

Devante.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:49

Good lord.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:50

But do you think it's I I I tend to feel like Alex has zero credit. So maybe he needed someone who could actually be approved for a lease.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:03

Oh, you mean like actual monetary credit? Yeah. Um I also kept waiting for Devante to be like, huh? I don't live with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:12

You said that you were just visiting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:17

Um, so then that that transitions us into Brittany and Devante. And oh boy. I don't even know where to start with these two.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:27

Yeah, it's so okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:29

Well Well, okay, so the the main clearly after the the non-wedding day, wedding day, she has been holding on to the idea that they are uh still going to be a couple at some point down the road. And I I don't know why. Uh because then we get into this whole story about Austin again. Because apparently only things happen here.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:03

Um well, when you live in Ohio and it's so boring.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:06

Yeah. Yeah. So Rufus DeSoul is playing up at our local soccer stadium here, a few miles north of the city. We know Priyanka from the show actually lives here and not Ohio, although she has roots in Ohio. Uh, and she lived in Cincinnati for a while, so I guess right before filming, maybe, or a couple years before she moved here. Who knows? Anyways, uh Bree is at dinner with Devante and says to him, Hey, we're a couple of us are going to see Rufus DuSoul. Do you want to come down to Austin with us? Well, Devontae says yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:46

No, I think it was more like she tells him about the girls' trip. He says, I love Rufus. And then she's like, Oh, well, why don't you come?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:54

Yeah, and Devonta says yes, and then tells Britney he's going on a work trip to Michigan and instead comes here.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:02

Um And then it gets weird too, like Yeah, he says his Airbnb isn't confirming, so he needs to stay at Priyanka's, even though Priyanka said the girls are staying, so there's no room for you. And I guess I agree with her. Like, that's sketch as hell, but are you gonna like force him out on the street? I think he could have gotten another hotel, but she lets him stay.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:25

Yeah. Weird. Um, so this all goes down, and then when he gets back, he finally breaks it off with Britney.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:32

Brittany's upset because Britney's biggest like beef is that they should have told her if they were girls being girls, girls.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:42

Yeah, because and their thing is they keep asking Devante on they keep saying they're asking Devante on the trip, like, have you broken it off with Britney? And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:50

So where do you come down on this debate?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:54

Uh what are the sides I'm choosing from? Because I don't really like any of these sides.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:58

Okay, so where do you come down on, hey, you're my friend? You should have told me that Devante was in Austin at the Rufus show, not in Michigan on a work trip when we're still together and I was still wearing my engagement ring. Or are you on the side of, hey, he told us that you were broken up? I didn't think to confirm that with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:24

Neither. Um, yeah, Britney's main beef with Brie is like, you didn't tell me. Didn't you know I was still wearing my engagement ring? And it's like, well, shit. No, you sh no. And also, why were you still wearing your engagement ring? So this person who we talked about. He doesn't even talk to you. He hadn't even been talking to her.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:44

But we've talked about this. Brittany clearly is is hanging on um longer than you know, we as viewers think is reasonable. But the other piece is I question how close these girls are.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:02

Yeah, I there's there's this confusing sort of well, there's clearly a divide between the the girls. Yeah, but uh there's to me it's confusing because they're like, oh, we're all really tight, we're in a group chat.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:16

Okay, just because you're in a group chat doesn't mean that you're super tight.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:19

That's where they keep saying, like, we're super tight. We like text all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:22

I believe, look, you've gone through a very unique experience together. Only each other can really relate to that. So you have a whole girls love is blind group chat and you communicate. But there's clearly factions among the groups. Which is normal. There's the Amber, Emma, Jess group, maybe Brittany, and then clearly Bree, Ashley, Priyanka are kind of in another group, and that's okay. It I think natural friendship groups are gonna form out of the hole. And so I just question how close they really were. And honestly, when they talked to Jess and Jess, you know, which we didn't mention about how Jess was mostly hurt about the women talking to Chris and how she said that she would have showed up differently for them. And then they're and then they question her about that, and she's like, We're all very close. Again, I don't believe her.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:18

Yeah, uh same. Um Okay, so uh this confusing situation happens, uh trip to Austin, and then Devante finally breaks it off with Brittany when they get back. Oh boy, what's up?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

Sorry, I just made me think to further my point about how I don't think these women are that close. When they were talking about it, you we see Priyanka in the audience being like, No, we weren't. I I was not close to her.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:54

She's like, no, shenanigans.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:56

I know. So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:57

So then they bring in Britney's dad um to directly address Devante, and he's asking him like if Devante lied to him when Britney's dad asked if he was ready to get married. Yes, he did. Yeah, well, Devonta says he wasn't lying.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:14

He was.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:15

Um, Britney gave you five options to get out, and Devante says, I don't quit. And then her dad, perfect comeback. It's not a game. Um, and I really struggled with this whole exchange because the entire time when Britney's dad is trying to have a serious conversation with Devante, there was just the largest rack of melons right behind his head. I mean, it's the love it was so hard to take it seriously.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:41

I mean, it's the love is blind reunion. There are gonna be large boobies.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:46

But it was right next to his head.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:48

I'm sorry that was so distracting for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:53

Um yeah, so he's still distracted, folks. I'm still distracted. Because I keep thinking about Devon, uh Britney's dad like watching it back and being like, yeah, this was my moment. And then he turns it on and it's like. So then they uh Lachais asked Devante for an update. And oh boy, does he have an update?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:24

Yeah, this was a this was a shot that I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:27

Are you seeing somebody?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:28

I didn't see this coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:29

Yep. Yes, I'm seeing somebody. Uh we're engaged and she's pregnant.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:34

But she lives in Ohio, and we've just established that Devante lives in Arizona with Alex. Yeah. So are they actually engaged, or is this a situation where he can't break it off because this man is incapable?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:49

Yeah, he's slow breaking off again.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:50

And he's hoping that she will just break up with him, and that he doesn't actually have to like make a direct statement breaking it off.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:57

He's just going through this whole thing about how excited he is to be Alex's roommate in Phoenix, and he's like, Oh, yeah, having a fiancee back in Ohio who's pregnant.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:04

I feel like they didn't press upon this enough because they asked, they're like, Well, where is she? And he's like, Oh, I have a house in Ohio. But they didn't where are you, bro? But they didn't ask it a follow-up questions to me. No, I think that Lache is like us, we're getting tired after all of this.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:22

Yeah, it was kind of exhausting.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:24

So they let that one go.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:26

Okay, I uh they do, and everybody's kind of in shock. And then unfortunately, for Bliss and Crazy Eyes from Seattle, season three, or whatever season that was, season four maybe. Um season four. Season four, that's right, season three was Houston. I never thought a TV gender reveal would be anything but totally cringe. It was like the sweetest thing ever.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:52

Yeah, but that was his late grandma.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:54

Yeah, so they had his grandmother before he she passed film a segment revealing the gender of their child, which they do not know at this point. And she grandma has since passed, so they are finding out on TV the gender of their child from his deceased grandma, and it was actually extremely sweet and touching.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:16

I thought here's what I'll say, and this is where you know, the show has been on for six years now, and you know, I think we're kind of cynical, and we always say that we watch the show for the drama, not for the love. But this was really nice. It was an extremely sweet gender reveal. Zach and Bliss, when we watched the season, we thought that I mean, Zach was with her Irina and who may be the greatest villain of all time, right? And we thought he was such a weirdo, and we're like, there's no way that Bliss is going to go back to him because he just dumped her for Irena of all people, and he's such a weirdo. What would she see in him? And so now seeing them welcoming their second child, and yeah, he still might be a little bit of a weirdo, but he seems like he's a really good guy and a really great husband and father, and they seem really good together. So it's nice, it's kind of nice to see you know couples like that come out of this show.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:24

He still stares with those crazy eyes, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:26

He does, but whenever he speaks, I mean he's a lawyer.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:29

Yeah, no, he's he's really well spoken. He seems like a great guy, it's just his eyes.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:33

I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:33

Well, it's the eyes.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:34

I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:36

Um but yeah, I was just shocked that there was like a non-cheesy gender reveal. I I I think even everybody who was involved was shocked that that actually turned out well. Um and somehow we get back to asking Vic and Christine about their pet peeves about each other.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:52

I do we did not need to go there. Also, who plays Angry Birds anymore?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:59

Uh well, Vic has a mild Angry Birds addiction.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:03

Maybe I maybe it's like this couple is stuck in like 2013. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:13

Um and then once we all wake back up from our naps, then we have our musical feature to close out the season, and it's Forrest Black and Joey Williams. Uh, and I wrote down who are they? Because I still don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:28

Yeah, who are they? But like, was it two seasons ago? They brought out Alex Warren, and then that song blew up. So maybe, maybe uh Netflix, Love is Blind really kinetic content, whoever really have their finger on the pulse of emerging music trends because maybe this song will be all over and they'll be performing at at the Grammys next. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:50

I guess Alex Warren still sucks, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:52

That's okay. But he's everywhere, and we did not know who he was when he played on Love is Blind. Still sucks, but I'm just point still holds.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:03

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:03

All right, so are we a rap on the reunion?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:06

We are not. We're we're a rap on the reunion. Will you indulge me? I thought maybe we could hand out some awards for this season.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:12

Okay, and I also want to ask you now that it's over, where would you rank this season compared to the other seasons of Love is Blind?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:21

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:22

So we can do your awards, but think about that and we'll circle back.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:27

So we have three awards to hand out. Are you ready? Okay. I didn't run this by you.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:32

You did not. I like surprises though.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:35

The man child of the season award.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:37

Jordan.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:39

Yeah?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:40

Oh, just this season?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:41

Yeah. I had Devontae.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:47

I'm gonna stick with Jordan.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:49

He likes Legos, he likes snacks.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:52

Devante likes those colored pencils. The only way for Devonta to break up with a woman is to move in with Alex. Um next award, Dumb and Poetic. The award for the man who talks a good game. Alex. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:15

Sabrina Carpenter.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:16

Yeah, these are all Sabrina Awards. Um Alright, and the final one is the Busywoman Award. Which woman, if you're into her, she's all for it, but if you're not, she's ready to burn your house down.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:31

Amber.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:35

I like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:36

Thanks for indulging me. Okay, well, what about We will be mailing them trophies?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:39

Yes, but what about uh what about the House Tour award? Jess. Connor. Yeah, Connor.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:52

No, Jess more in the vein of Sabrina. Take your shoes off. Yeah, the bet yeah, you didn't have to take your shoes off at Connor's house. Jess, yeah. No, you're right about Jess, but I just don't want to mention Connor's house tour. Such a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:05

You know, and and speaking of Connor's house, which apparently is in Cleveland and not in Columbus, like we originally thought. We've been watching the uh Bachelor Mansion takeover where they renovate uh the Bachelor House. I would like to see a Love is Blind renovation show where the former contestants have to renovate Connor's house because I would I would watch that show all day.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:32

I would and they have to do the manual labor? That'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

No, they'll they'll give them like bring in some carpenters. Yeah. Like I don't want them to ruin Connor's house.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:44

All right. Where does this season rank?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:48

Have you thought about this more?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:49

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:50

What do you what do you got?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:53

Alright, well, uh, I mean, there's probably recency bias, but did you enjoy this season more than Denver?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:01

Yeah, if we're gonna play the optometrist game, like one or two or two or three, I'm taking it. Oh, you skipped Minneapolis because I'm taking it over Minneapolis.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:12

Well, Minneapolis is boring.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:14

Yeah. Am I taking this over Denver? Yes. Joe's Joe's Pantheon level idiots, but I'm still taking it over Denver.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:30

And okay, so if you're taking it over Denver, then you're definitely taking it over Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:40

What about over DC?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:43

Oh, DC sucked, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:48

Over Charlotte.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:49

No. Uh the Jimmy Jeremy combo was just so exquisite in their dipshittery. Um I mean, Charlotte was our entree into the show to start with because it made the New York Times for Jimmy's behavior.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:14

I know it was so good. And that was like Oh, and Chelsea was at the reunion. She was. And Jimmy was at the reunion.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:23

Oh, I forgot.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:24

And Jess was at the reunion. No, there were a lot of Laura. We saw Laura at the reunion. Oh, we didn't see dumb Jeremy. There were like some, everyone spelled their names really weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:37

Charlotte, Charlotte was an excellent season.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:40

I know. Charlotte, I think, is my favorite as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:44

Um, I didn't say it was my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:46

Oh. Okay. So then continue.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:49

We've covered my affinity for the Chicago season. I think Shake and Shane are two of my absolute favorite reality. Not Love is Blind, just straight up reality TV idiots of all time. I mean, I don't Shake was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:04

I don't disagree. Shane.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:07

Diplo was here this weekend. We didn't see Shake, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:11

He might have been at South by. We wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:14

So I Chicago was so far up there for me. Like Mallory with that little wafy Sal and his boyfriend slash roommate and her regret for not going with the guy who just wanted to watch football with her was kind of amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:30

Okay, okay. So my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:32

You maybe to Shane meeting Natalie's parents, and they were just like, who the fuck is this guy? Who's this guy and he was so high on coke?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:42

And whose apartment is this?

SPEAKER_01 1:46:44

They were so confused. They were so polite people, and they were just like, oh Lord.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:49

That yeah, that whole situation was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:54

Uh Shake GT telling him off at the wedding and Shake being unbothered because he has reservations at Nobu at six o'clock on Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:02

Chicago was not my Chicago was not my favorite season of Love is Blind.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:07

But I do think And there was that crazy chick, Shana. Oh, yeah. Who was still chasing down Shane. Weird.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:13

And then that dude, Nick. I remember, yeah, Nick and Danielle, which I'm shocked they got married. I thought Nick was gay the whole season. But anyway, Chicago was not my favorite season, but the individual characters um were quite good. I I do think that Shane at the Bachelor Party was maybe my favorite, one of my favorite Love is Blind moments. I thought it was so good. Coupled with uh Sal. Yeah, we talked about this, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:43

Sal's ability to hit a baseball just fucking blew shakes mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:47

Okay, so again, off topic versus Houston.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:54

Better than Houston.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:55

Milt was fucking awesome in Houston. And there were some good moments, like the crazy one talking about uh what's his name, twerking on the bed.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:04

There was some that was the crazy one. That was Jackie and Marshall in uh season four of which was Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:13

I'll be really honest. Houston Seattle blend together for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:15

Okay, so Houston was Lydia and Milton.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:17

Yeah, yeah. Seattle, Seattle was Kwame with his lotion and tissues laying all around his condo, which was so creepy.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:25

Well, Chelsea and Kwame were at the reunion.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:27

And then Brett, who spent all his time playing video games.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:29

Brett and Tiffany were at the reunion. Chicago was uh and or Seattle was also Zach and Bliss. Actually, Seattle was probably the most successful season of Love is Line.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:44

It was for sure. Um by success you mean marriages, which sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:48

Uh so yes or no? Seattle v current season, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:59

Yeah. I'm taking this season over Seattle. Seattle was better for couples, which kind of dams it a little bit. There's less drama. The drama around the guys was like, are they actually even adults?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:13

Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:14

Quite frankly, that's that was the drama where they couldn't figure out if these were children or not.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:18

Yeah, Seattle was good.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:22

I couldn't handle it.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:22

What about Dallas season three?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:25

Oh, yeah, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:27

We saw a lot of Dallas people, but but you got Cole.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:31

Cole was so good. He he I Cole Cole's whole line about how she was a nine and this women would kill to be a nine, it's is still one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:46

He was like, Yeah, I said they were tens, but I said you were nine, and women would kill to be a nine. But there was only five people in the pool, and two of them were tens, and she was a nine.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:55

But three fifths are better looking than you.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:00

And then and then the shock of maybe all of love is blind, his redemption at the reunion where she tried to say that he was giving her an eating disorder, and they rolled that tape back, and he was right.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:13

Well, and do you notice that lying about it? Or she just had interpreted wildly different than what we saw. But we saw at this reunion the bowl of cuties made an appearance.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:27

They did, they did. That was really good throw uh callback.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:30

We love a callback.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:31

Also, at the end, when Cole was like trying to hit on the mom.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:38

Hit on Alexa's mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:40

Hit on Alexa's mom.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:41

He's like, you don't look you're a mom. You don't look like my mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:44

Well, yeah, because they were high school classmates together. The two women. Yeah. Oh, because her her dad wanted to marry somebody who's his daughter's age. Yeah, Cole was really rocked by that one as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:56

Yeah, but you saw Alexa's dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:59

It Oh, it all fit.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:00

It all checks.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:02

It just made it so enjoyable when Cole was trying to hit on the mom.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:06

So I take it that you would rank Ohio over the OG season, Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:12

Oh, God. Damien and Cameron and all that? Yeah, of course. Okay, so this season was pretty high for me. I really enjoyed this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:19

So this season, if if this all holds, is your number two after Chicago surprisingly.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:26

Chicago is so good.

unknown 1:51:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:28

Or wait, no, no, no, no. Number three. Yeah, so Chicago, Charlotte, Ohio. It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:34

I can't kiss you. My lip. God Jimmy was the worst.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:39

Jimmy, but now he's got his hair transplant and he's a brand new man.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:46

Sure he is. But my fucking lip.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:49

But they're friends. You know what I mean? Like I think crazy. See, this is where I think it's it's interesting to see like how the relationship evolved after time has passed. Because do you see any of these couples being friends after not working out? No, I I mean Bree and Connor excluded.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:09

Yeah, who knows? I uh it's a weird, it's a weird sort of group, because like I wasn't surprised that Jess was dating somebody from the pods. It's like they have an inability to date outside of their like show.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:25

Or or we also see them date cross shows because Shane was dating, I mean, he dated someone from what the circle on perfect match, and then we saw him dating someone from that show the trust. So they like to mix and mingle within the Netflix cinematic universe. So anyway, we have said so much about Love is Blind weddings and reunions, and so much outside of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:55

It's been a fun season.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:56

So yeah, it's been a fun season. Uh, we've loved breaking it down and chatting about it with you. So stay tuned because we will be breaking down a new season of a new show.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:08

Age of Attraction.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:09

Age of Attraction. Get ready.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:11

Strap in.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:13

See you soon.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:14

Bye.