Ep 14: Lightning Bugs, Space Launches, And Big Dreams

We trade the “lightning bugs in a jar” story for a clear marriage gut check: are we helping each other shine, or quietly tightening a lid. We unpack what it looks like to be a launcher through our tone, our support, and our willingness to believe before we fully understand. 

• the lightning bug jar as a picture of control 
• how a “lid” shows up through disinterest, silence, and sarcasm 
• mission control as a model for steady support 
• why we don’t need the same dreams to cheer each other on 
• the fear of the unknown during major life and business change 
• how shared work can shift a marriage from “me” to “we” 
• believing in your spouse when you can’t see the vision 
• creating success with words before results exist 
• the hot take on making your spouse feel bigger 

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Transcript

Welcome And What We’re About

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Hey everyone, welcome to Marriage Hot Takes, the podcast where we have honest conversations about marriage while it's still hot.

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We're Erin and Kim, and we're so glad you're here.

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This isn't about being perfect, having it all together, or pretending marriage is easy.

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It's about real life, real love, real struggles, real growth, and learning how to choose each other every single day.

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We'll talk about communication, conflict, faith, intimacy, expectations, and everything in between.

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So whether your marriage is in a great season or a hard one, you're not alone. Let's get into today's hot take.

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Welcome back to Married Tottakes. Thank you for taking a little time to uh join us today. I'm your host, Erin Degler, along with my wife Kim. Um, each week we just um come to you to share a little bit about our life over the last 22 years being married, um a little some of the ups and downs and all arounds, and hopefully we um share some of those. And um our goal each time we finish up is to leave you with a marriage hot take. Um, it is really a uh something that you can take into your relationship, into your marriage, um, to start some conversation uh in

Lightning Bugs And The Jar

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the different topics we talk about. Um today we're gonna talk about um just recently um well I'll I'll start I'll change that. Um I I don't know if you remember when we were kids, not us together because we didn't know each other's kids. We didn't know each other's kids. Um we used to be able to catch lightning bugs.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Oh yeah.

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Remember that?

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah.

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Um and you could put them in a jar and you'd put a lid on them, and they'd look really pretty. Um but Tango's getting a little wild over there. Um you know, you'd put them in a jar and they look real really pretty, but they weren't gonna go anywhere. Um and and we we'd kind of forgot about lightning bugs until a number of years, a couple two or three years ago. A few years ago. Yeah, we were in Arkansas on a on a just a weekend trip, and and there's lightning bugs everywhere.

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And we were like little kids all over again. It's the coolest thing to see.

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Just watching them fly around. It was the greatest thing. Um, but I was thinking about lightning bugs and how we put them in um a jar, and they're pretty to look at, but they were way different than the lightning bugs we saw in Arkansas because they were just beautiful because they were flying everywhere. Um, they were all over the place.

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Lit up everything, everywhere.

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Yeah.

When You Put A Lid On

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And sometimes I think we do that in our marriages. We put a lid on our spouse. Um, they look really pretty.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Uh-huh. And do you know what happens if you leave that lid on those lightning bugs? They'll die.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah. So if you there you go. There you go.

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If you don't poke a hole in it, yeah. They will die. But but for a little bit of time, they you because you got a whole bunch of them together.

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So they look really pretty in in in night, in the night in your room.

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In your room. Yeah. And you got to keep and go, oh, that's pretty neat. But I but sometimes we do the same thing to our spouse. Um, we we put a lid on them. Um because sometimes, um, if like a lightning bug, if they're out there uh flying around the night sky, it's maybe a little too much. That's a little bit too much to go out and about. So let's rein them back in a little bit and look at their beauty and capture that beauty. And so, what does that look like in a marriage if you put the lid on? Maybe it's one person is growing. And you're like, I don't why are you acting like this? I don't know what I don't, I mean, you're doing all this growth stuff. I mean, like, I don't know why you're doing that.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

What are you who are you trying to impress? What are you trying to do?

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Yeah, what do you I mean our marriage is just fine. It's like if one of you might be listening to our podcast and you send to the other and go, we don't need any of that. We're we're perfect, we're good.

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We're good.

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I don't even know why you're wasting your time with that.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

And they don't have to say those words, they just have to say, okay, thanks. And never listen to any of I mean, like you've send me many YouTube videos uh throughout the week. And if I just went thanks and never listened to them, how would that make you feel?

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Well, I mean, it made me feel like I wish you don't really care.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Yeah. So I always listen and I always give you a little bit of feedback of what I think about it because I want you to know is interested. And thank you for sending it.

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And we and we'll have a discussion about it.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

We do, we do. But I have gotten to where I send you different videos. And if I thought, like, hmm, I don't really think he even watched that. It would hurt my feelings.

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And so everything you I mean, now sometimes you're a little bit better and quicker at it than listening in it or watching it.

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I have a little bit more free time.

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I'm a little slower and you know, it might be a week. It might take you a few days or a week to get to that and I go, Oh, yeah, I listened to that, it was good. Um so which which kind of brings us to our you know our the flip side of that.

Mission Control Marriage Support

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So just recently um we had a um space launch. Um it was going around the moon and back. Um and so I was thinking about those astronauts, they they're sitting on they're getting ready to launch. They're on the launch pad, they're on the launch pad, getting ready to take off. And you know, they really might flip some switches, do some things, but it's really mission control that's in charge. That's in charge. That is is is in charge of launching them into space. Um and so how do how does that look when we're in a marriage and we want to launch the other person? It doesn't mean kick them out. In outer space. Yeah. Good luck around the moon. Um, and and and it doesn't mean that we're in complete control either.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Right.

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Um, what's the astronaut's goal? To get into space and go around the moon. What's mission control's goal? To get them into the moon and around the space. Get around the moon, back, yeah, around the world and back. Um, around the world and back in 80 days. Um but but that's they both have the same goal.

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Yes.

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Um, and mission control is to be a support and help to help them complete their mission. And so how does that look in marriage?

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I think that for us, you always have plenty of ideas and things that you want to do.

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Dreams, that's what we're having marriage hot takes.

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That's why we're here.

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I had an idea.

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You did. Uh, you always have plenty of ideas and dreams and visions of things that you and goals that you want to do, or you, you know, and many, some of them, many of them maybe. Honestly, I don't necessarily, I'm not like, yes, I can't wait to do that. But you would never know because I always say, I think that's a fantastic idea. I think that, yeah, you should do that. And I I don't do it ugly, and I'm not doing it saying it never sarcastically. Yes, so sarcastically, and I'm not saying it that way now. I am always supportive of it, whether I'm excited about it or not. And it's gonna not be my dream. I mean, it just is not because we don't always have the same dreams, but either way, I'm going to support you and it will eventually become part of my dream as well, just because it's probably a two-person thing. So I'm gonna, you know, end up doing that. But I think it's just the constant support of that. Otherwise, if I wanted to be a lid, you would tell me and I would go, another idea. Oh, yeah, that's a mm. So I think it could be definitely your tone, because you could say it two different ways, because I could just be like, oh, yeah, that sounds fantastic. How'd that last one work out for you?

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And and and honestly, I mean, you could very easily be a lid because you'd have every right to be. Because not all of them, well, I would say most of them don't work out very well. But because I be believing in the faster you fail, the faster you succeed.

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And we fail.

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We fail a lot.

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We have fallen and we fail and we fall and we fail and we get up and we take it again. Sometimes we don't get up all the way before we're right back down on the ground.

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I got another idea that you're gonna do it.

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I got another idea, honey. We're halfway up. Hold on, give me your hand, you know. And I'm like me. And sometimes here's my hand.

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And sometimes I've told you, I know another idea, another, yes, I know. I'm sorry, I can't help it.

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You have, yeah.

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And you still say, that's okay.

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I think it's gonna be a good idea.

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Yeah, you're not usually like, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Yeah. I've there have been very I would I was almost about to say, I've there's not been any. I tell you no, there has. There have been a few things that I've just been like, I don't think I got that in me. And sometimes you don't.

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Right.

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But that's very few and far between.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

I mean, like I you're saying, I mean I don't remember them, so I mean I'm sure you have a memory of them, but Yes. Yeah. I don't.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

So Well, so I say that, but but then you you ask it in another way or in front of other people, that ends up being a yes. So then I just have to give it this. Yeah, I think that's probably a good idea.

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So yeah.

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So I do always want to launch you.

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Now, so you know, like the podcast.

Dreamers, Tone, And Daily Encouragement

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This, um, Mary's hot text. I have um two other podcasts. Um, the mind body project and the road travel. One is geared, the road travel is geared toward men. Um and you know, taking the Bible on how do we practically apply it. Um then the mind body project is kind of a little bit of everything. Um, how do we make our mind body better? Um, but but and then I had one previously called My Hometown, which was you know, interviewing business owners and just sharing about our hometown. And so um this would be the fourth one I've idea I've come up with. Um and it was one of those ideas that I think wholeheartedly and honestly, when I asked, you said yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

You are correct. You ask at the right time.

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Yes. Now, if I had asked you when did we talk about that? January? Maybe maybe before the first of the year, maybe December.

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Yeah.

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Um and we've talked about how how our growth in the last year and different things, but if I had asked you that um probably even six months before.

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Yeah, it would have been a no.

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It'd have been a hard no. And and and I know it's not one of those things you're just saying yes to me now. Um because like the week we're gonna record, you're like, I'm looking forward to it. Here's some topics I thought about, here's some points I've thought about. And so it's like not like, well, what are we gonna what did you want to talk about this week?

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, it's not like I sit down in here and I say, Okay, what are we talking about? Because normally it's topics that I have sent you that I have, which I do have a little bit more time than you do, free time. Yes. But um, yeah, because I was all on board then.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Yeah, and and really it it's um and and there's been some others that you have not been on board with.

The M2B Leap And Fear

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But as you said, um, as we I mean, I mean, a lot of people know that when we moved and we closed Synergy Fitness and opened M2B fitness um as a a women's only facility, standalone um outside of Synergy Fitness, it was uh that was a big discussion for us.

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Yeah.

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Um, and you really didn't see how it was gonna work.

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No, and I didn't um I wasn't open to it.

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Yeah, that was not one of those things that you were um it uh at uh on board with it at all.

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That was not at all.

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Um even though um I was unhappy at Synergy, there's just some things weren't working. Um, it was just time to make a change. It was a good time to make a change. I mean, but again, you're challenged sometimes with change.

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Yes.

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Um it was a whole different business model.

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Um it was the unknown.

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It was the unknown, it was a it was a big thing, yeah.

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Which is what we discussed this week at Walk and Talk is being fearful like in the dark. It's because of the unknown. It wasn't that I wanted you to continue to stay unhappy in the place you were, right? It there was a lot of variables at that time. I had a shop inside of it, so it was there was many things that factored into what I thought was not a good idea, but um it wasn't just because I wanted you to continue to be unhappy, it was the fear of the unknown. We were gonna go get rid of it all and and start again. And that was very, very hard and scary for me.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

And basically that's what it was. It was take our few members that we had um that we did classes with and say goodbye to the rest. And say goodbye to the rest and try to build that business. Um not really from scratch, but we had a long way to go. We did um and and when we downsized to a quarter of the space, um, it was a lot of things that were very challenging. And and so that one we had a lot of um hard discussions. We didn't agree. Um, we got a little bit irritated at each other. Um, but yet you still supported me. I mean, it wasn't you didn't agree um necessarily, you didn't you couldn't see what I saw.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

No, I would tell you over and over that's not gonna work there. That's just not gonna work. But if that's what you want to do, then that's what you should do.

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So and and and so and and so I think that's an important term that you use there is you. If that's what you're gonna do, then you do it. So for 14 years, Synergy was me. It was me. Um and so we went into MWB fitness as me.

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We did. It was skin, it was yours.

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If that's what you if that's what you want to do, then you do it. Um and then the launch really became when you started becoming more involved. Yeah. And the things in our events that we were doing um in our social media, all the different things that you became involved in. And so now it's not me, just an M2B fitness. When the people think of M2B fitness, they think of Kim and Aaron. Um, and so it so it's And I was never thought of as Synergy Fitness. Never, never. Um and so it's one of those things that you weren't on board, but you but the success of it is because of the two of us has made a big impact.

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Right.

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And so it's not to say that you may not feel a certain way, but once it starts, you can still be a launching.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Yeah.

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I mean you still continue. Hey, we need you come up with ideas. Hey, well, this is a good idea, do this or that. Um and so, and and I mean, like she said, I've had more dreams and ideas than she has about let's do this. So I would completely get it if you'd put a lid on it. Yes, but that's only because you have 10,000 um 10,000 uh lightning bugs in a jar. Um because I keep putting them in there, and they're overflowing. They're overflowing.

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Some have died in the bottom.

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Um, but we do have to be careful about um like um in another episode we talked about my parents and my dad going back to school, my bot mom going back to school. They weren't, you know, they were very much launchers, like they launched each other. Like if you want to work on your master's degree, if you want to work on your bachelor's degree, if you want to get a job teaching it at college, you know, they were always um my dad, I grew up, my dad was always in multi-level marketing. I mean, from selling stamps to selling nutrition, I always remember him working, doing all that. My mom was always a big supporter of that. Um, you know, hey, do that, you know, support it. Um my dad, I think, had a lot of ideas. Um so I mean, and I don't ever remember my mom screwing a lid down tight and saying that's you know, that's enough. And and I think again, like you said, we can say that with our words.

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Right, for sure, because it would be all in the words. It obviously, because when I did want to put a lid on it with Synergy Fitness closing, it was uh I'm screwing that on tight and I'm holding to it and gonna hold my hand over it. And I just didn't I didn't, I needed the lid on it.

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And and and you would have and you would have kept it on it probably if if the Lord didn't unscrew it.

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The Lord unscrewed that lid and said, here you go. So then I had no, I had no other way to hold on.

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Because we did try to go back.

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I just had to say, okay, that's what we're doing now.

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Because we did try to go back and there was no going back.

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So it's like, all right, let's He took care of that for us.

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So let's move forward.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

You know, there's a lot of times that you and I and uh my friends and I have discussed about can I need the Lord to give me a big sign that stops you right here. It's like this is your sign and it's this way, and that is exactly what happened then. You know, there are many times that I have thought that that has never happened, but that was uh a big go, nope, not now. So I had no, I I couldn't fight that at that point.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

And again, because of that, um, you know, you try to put the lid on. Um, I think God helped us launch us, but but also it was with that launch um moving into M2B fitness and expanding that space and expanding what we do and and um the attitude we have, the culture we create, it has opened up a lot of doors for us together. Um it's it's helped us grow together. Um, it's helped us realize that that maybe there's um a space for a podcast like this. Um there's a space to help women, um, to help relationships. Um so it's opened up a lot of opportunities, I think um the Lord wants us to serve um that we would have never done um at Synergy.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

And we would have never done them together. No. Because again, like you said, Synergy was you, was me.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

It it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

And um as as much as uh launch you, I feel like that we have um come together and and are holding hands as we're launching and we're launching together as far as how can we serve. And that's not ever, I mean, that was never our attitude at um synergy or any of the other things that we have done. It was never about how could we serve. And it wasn't until we have MTB that uh I started maybe seeing that vision a little bit clearer. And that's another thing about launching and and putting a lid on it is sometimes when you present an idea I can't see it. And and a lot of times it's just in the way that it's being explained, you know, to where I'm just like, yeah, it sounds like mud. So I don't think that you know, but I wouldn't I just say, oh, sounds great. But so I think that you know, that's part of how you present your visions and your ideas. And now I'm always normally

Believing Without Seeing The Vision

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always like, yep, let's go.

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And and so my recent vision, my recent vision, um, is really to to in the in the process of starting a nonprofit, um, Aaron's Angels of Hope, to help women and children in need for lasting healing um by serving them through Christ's love. But it is one of those things that you didn't quite see. Uh I wasn't able to quite paint the picture in a in a clear vision for you, um, but you believed in the serving of how can we help?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yeah. So a lot of times when you present something like that to me, I might not can see your vision, but I can believe in you.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

So that's basically what that all boils down to is that I can't see your vision because it's not mine, and I don't have any desire to do any of that. But I believe in you and I support you.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

And you have no as when you say that, no desire to do that, it's really any of the ideas I have.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

That is correct.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Yes, with the visions I come up with.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

That is correct. Um, yeah, I don't. And so but I do believe in you and I do support you and I do cheer you on. So I that's what I do. Because I believe in you.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

And when we're speaking of launching, um last year I could have easily put a lid

Launching The Book Into The World

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on you.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

And but instead, um when you wrote your book, and I and I probably wanted you to put a lid on you. You probably would have self-lid.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Uh yeah, I mean, that wasn't the plan.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

You're right.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Until you said Well, you're right. Here's my idea.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

That's all me, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Never mind.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

It was all you. I was good. I was just writing out my words.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Uh well, yeah, I guess you're right.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

But you probably should finish that story. So so really it was I was there's a song that Kenny Rogers sings that uh is um Don't Fall in Love with a Dreamer.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

Yeah, that's that's me.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

That's my dreamer right there.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

That's what you got stuck with. Yeah. Um, but it was really, I mean, you were writing them, you wanted to write down your childhood memories and couldn't figure out a way.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

I said, Well, why don't you write a book for the whole world to be able to Well, I knew how I want I wanted to write a book for our for my family.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

But just for our family.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

And you are the what you said, why just for the family? Right, let's publish it. And I said, Because it's about my life, it's just relates to my family. Everybody wants to read that. Everyone will want to read that.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

And what has the response been? It brings been very positive. It's bringing back memories of their childhood, of their family. Um, and and so that was uh launched you.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

And because I I believed in what you're doing, and you and you believed in it so much that every day you would come home to say, read me another story. What'd you write today?

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Yeah, yeah. And and and that's a way I think we show that we believe in it and we launch it even more. Tell me about it. What are you thinking? Um and the lid is are we talking about this again?

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Yeah, because you could have easily been at work for 55,000 hours a day and me come home and or you come me come home. I live here. Uh, you come home and as you're eating supper, where you just want peace and quiet, and and me have to say, You want me to read you a story that I wrote today? And and you would could have easily been like no. But go ahead. But instead, you would always say, Did you did you write a story today? And you would want me to read it to you, even though you had heard all the bajillion words that day, you still wanted to hear my words.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

So because it was important to me, because I wanted because you're important and I wanted to you made me feel success before I ever finished.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

From chapter one, you made me feel like the world does want to hear my stories because of the way you spoke to me.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

And and that's and that's the way um we launched. I wasn't trying to control you, but I knew that that your mission was to get it out to our family. And so I wanted to help you do that. And just the side benefit of that was the world gets to read it, which is special.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

But you can order that on Amazon. It's called what's it called? Uh, let me think. A child.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

The fence I walked.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

The fence I walked.

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It's the childhood I cherished.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Why do I have such a hard time with the name of my own book? Because we had that faux pas. Yeah, we had that. And now I have to think about it. The fence I walked and the childhood I cherished. Yes. On Amazon. Kim Degler.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Go buy it.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

Go buy now. Um, so launch versus lid.

Words That Make Dreams Bigger

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Um, sometimes they can be, it's really how if if we're setting the other person up for success before they even leave the launch pad. Um, by the words we speak into them, um, that we want to make them successful. We see that they're already successful before they are. Um, it's really that launch. Um, or we can simply say this again, or you're you can't do that. You don't have the time, you don't have the smarts, you don't have the energy, you don't have all the things, we're putting a lid on it. Um and but sometimes because we just want to keep it there and pretty to look at. Um maybe it's the life pretty to look at, or maybe it's the other person. I just want to keep you right there.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Well, and saying that, yeah, like if you have think of that as being in a jar and how pretty that life is, because I just want to keep them right here. You keep them safe from all the falls and all the failures and all the scrapes along the way. We are not afraid of scrapes and failures at the Degler household.

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Because again, what happens when you keep that jar on? That that lid on. It dies. They die, and your relationship will die, your dreams will die. Um I I I think one of the best things, I think it was Les Brown said, Um, some of the greatest inventions are in the graveyard because so many didn't they kept the lid on um and they didn't launch. Um we do, we kind of live a life of a lot of scrapes and bumps and bruises because I really do believe in the faster you fail, the faster you succeed.

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Because he has a lot of ideas.

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I got a lot of ideas and dreams and visions and so the the Marriage Hot Takes podcast is just phase one of our big big vision. Um we got a lot of visions. It is, it is just a it's just to be very minute of our big vision. Yep. Um that's slowly your seeing. Yeah. As you send me some things from time to time of of the vision that that I go, why wow, that's even better than I thought. That's awesome. Um, so um this week's marriage hot takes is hold up.

The Hot Take And Goodbye

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Since we're talking about launch launch versus lid.

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Today's hot take is if your spouse feels smaller because of you, you're not protecting the marriage, you're limiting it. Screwing that lid on and holding it tight.

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Make them smaller. You want them to feel bigger than life. Um, and you can I mean, so many people watched the launch of and it was bigger than life. It was the most amazing thing. Um, and that's I think what we want to be for each other is launch each other so big and bright that everybody goes, wow, that's amazing. Um and so um launch big, don't keep them small.

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Don't hold your don't hold your hand on the lid or they'll die.

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Because they will die. The light that was once in them will go out, it will fade. It will fade. Thank you so much for joining us on this week's hot marriage hot takes. Um, I'm your host, Aaron.

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And I'm Kim. Sorry, we fouled that up.

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We've only done it a bunch of times. Anyhow, we'll try that again.

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I'm Aaron. And I'm Kim.

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And we'll see you next time right here on Marriage Hot Takes.

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Thanks so much for spending this time with us on Marriage Hot Takes.

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We hope today's conversation encouraged you, challenged you, and gave you something practical to take back into your marriage.

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Remember, strong marriages aren't built in one big moment.

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They're built in small, intentional choices made every day.

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And don't forget to subscribe and leave a review. It really helps us reach more couples. Until next time, keep choosing each other, and we'll see you for the next hot take.