Nest Ecm Interview

Sight Zilla interviews a South Bay legend, Nest One. Nest talks about South Bay graffiti and the birth of the infamous ECM crew. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

What's up, this is Cyzilla. Another episode up next. Just um, you know, just documenting uh people from graffiti, people that I've I feel made an impact. Um and we want to make sure that we uh uh document the stories of all our all the legends so when they do decide to leave this world, uh we have a little piece of them um to remember them by. So today I got Nest ECM right here. Um South Bay, I would think South Bay legend, right? Uh but I I seen them go off city. Um so uh welcome, Nest. Um I guess the the biggest thing is is like I guess uh I guess introduce yourself. Who are you? Who are you? What you about and what does graffiti mean to you?

SPEAKER_03 0:59

What's up, my boy Sai? Um thank you for the interview. Appreciate you uh for this. Um yeah, pretty much uh my story starts in the South Bay Harbor area. Um grew up in the city of Inglewood. My childhood all over there. I re-sign right here in the borderline of Gardena right now. South Bay, Hawthorne, Lawdale, all that over here. Um I was influenced with uh the graffiti since I grew up next to the 405 over here by Manchester by Randy's Owens. And I was seeing other freeways uh smashed back in the days, in the early 90s. I'm I'm from the 90s. I was born in 79. So um when I was a little kid, probably like in the you know, eighties and like eighty seven, eighty-eight, I was like a sixth, no, like a fourth grader around then. And I started dabbling with spray cans because of my dad. My dad's a furniture uh carpenter, and he would do furniture for uh baby cribs and uh uh baby cabinets, and uh I would help him when I was in the fourth, fifth grade around that time in the 80s. And uh we'll go to Home Depot, which back in the days it was called uh home club. And um we'll go to the home club and uh go buy crylons by bulk, help them choose colors. And um here I was as a little fourth grader, fifth grader, knowing about graffiti because of the freeway I'm growing up next to. And um then going uh help my dad to work and buy paint and material for him to do his job, and uh picking colors. I was picking crylons uh in hot pink, baby blue, um, you know, canary yellow, all the infant colors, you know? And um going back to the garage where he was working out of and painting the cabinets, and I would take all the leftover cryons that he'll throw, all his scraps, and I'll go in the back of the garage and I'll start tagging my name, my middle name, Danny. And I started hitting up Danny was here, and then the year, you know, and then that's how I started dabbling with tagging, you know, and then uh since I lived next to the 405 exit off of the Manchester, I would sneak out of my house like at 12 o'clock when my mom and dad was sleeping. Yeah, and I'll go tag on the wall in the freeway and you know, just to see my name up while I was nobody and tagging like I didn't have an identity yet, but I would see myself up, you know? And uh with the leftover spray cans, you know, for my dad that I'll sneak from my dad's job, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

I mean, like what did what did the I mean what did graffiti do for you? How did it like like what did it do to your life?

SPEAKER_03 4:20

It it it changed my life big time though, because I I had a drive, I had a focus. Yeah, I had something to do. Back then, like in high school, everybody like was into something, everybody belonged to like a certain crowd, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was um I was kind of like uh just into like I would kick it with like two close homies of mine, and one of them he was a DJ, and I would back him up to go buy records all the time.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

So I would listen to like all the back then it was underground because we wouldn't listen to it on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

And um, and he'll just buy records off of the off of like networking or other DJs, you know?

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

So we will pick up like the 12 vinyls of like Mob Deep, all this East Coast hip hop, Wu Tang.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

This is way before I started even getting any radio play, you know? And we were just into like hip-hop and all that stuff, you know. And um from the and then that was my buddy Jimmy, and then my other buddy, he he was uh uh Mexican from Mexican descent, and he was into tagging already. And um, and his whole family, they they were painters, and they they did painting, like they would paint houses. Yeah, so he had access to buckets of paint.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

So that's how I had already like my two friends involved in some kind of you know, materialized, you know, hip-hop kind of like flavor of it, you know what I'm saying? Like materialized wise, you know what I'm saying? With my DJ homie with the hip-hop music, and then my painter homie with the paint, we could get paint from there, you know. And um once uh my friend, the one that was a painter, is he's actually from my crew, he writes Acid 47. Okay, but he only wrote during the high school because most of the graffiti writers have like a like two to three year lifespan, yeah, where they go hard, you know, yeah, and then they just like get married or life changes, you know what I'm saying? And that's how he he did it while he was in high school, just like I did, you know? Yeah, and um so um we would get uh paint from him, and he was more artistic and more advanced in the graffiti lettering. You know, I was just I was a toy at the time. I would just tag my name, and I didn't even have a legit tagging style. Yeah, he already had one, you know? So like just mimicking him, I got better, you know? And he was already doing like bombs and he already he was ahead of the game than me in the graffiti, you know. So I was kind of looking up to him, you know what I'm saying? And then uh from him, that's how I had the drive to get better to his level, you know? Yeah and um I remember he to him telling me out of his mouth, he's like, hey fool, like I've never seen nobody except uh like get so better so quick. He's like everybody that I know, like they do the same shit, you know, and like since I already knew what I was committed to, becoming uh we were both from the same tagging crew, yeah, and um I would help him like do his letters, you know. I was getting that like hands-on experience, you know, you know, so I ended up getting good quicker, you know what I'm saying? And uh where he wouldn't have to help me, and I wouldn't have to help him anymore, we can work both work together, you know? Yeah, and um he was impressed by that. Okay. He was like, damn, for like you really stepped up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

I mean like uh you you can't you you really uh represented the South Bay and you made ECM known in the South Bay area. Um a lot of cats don't even know about graffiti in the South Bay and his history. Only a few true dedicated people know about um the graffiti out there. Um what are what are some crews, other crews out of the South Bay that that are that that stood out but are no longer around? I know I know CTFs were real big in the South Bay area.

unknown 8:52

You're right.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Um the ECMs, you guys were always doing something, but uh you know I think there was uh there's a lot of a lot of other LOLs were doing their thing and then um uh what's the other crew? There's a crew called uh IE or something like that. They were big.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Um HRs.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

H and Rs.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

Um what what like there's uh L M.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

L M.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Um RTL?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

RTL Um You got a few IWUs out there putting their work, I think solid and um yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

Too bad.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Too bad, yeah. Um who else is out there? There's a lot, uh you had uh don't forget about Brock 77 too. Yeah, he was doing his thing.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Yeah, they were out here, they were doing their thing up the the South Bay TKOs. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

South Bay and most of them, most of the South Bay Bay TKOs, I think they went their own path.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

Um and uh did their own thing. It's still around though. But uh I mean like what is it what is ECM represent today?

SPEAKER_03 9:58

Well what happened was well what represents today. I'm just uh like w I've been I've been in it the longevity. I've always like I said, I started with my homie Acid, and we were doing it together during high school, and like what year is that though? That was uh from high school was uh 95 to like 97.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

So you guys like uh who is the creator?

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Uh it comes from older the the first generation from Gardena, my big homies, um, that I met later on after I got on. I got on the I got on at Losinger by a youngster that came from the Gardena Compton clique. And uh and that was the where it got created in Gardena. Okay. And um and those heads, they used to go to Gardena High School. It originated from Gardena High School.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

Yeah, and uh it's uh we're actually a branch off of D2D.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Um and back in the days there was a crew called ESK. Okay, they were real big back in the days, and uh this is like in the 90s, like I would say like 93. Okay, right before I got on. Everything all this is like 93, 94. I got on on 95. So like 93 and 94 years, the ECMs that are my big homies, which uh sh shout out goes to the creator cunt. Okay, uh cunt noise, um spritz and twicks, and seeing that's what then that's why it was always kind of like a a Gardena, and then Compton was like the the follow-up that made it together because there were only like nine heads back then.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

And like out of those nine heads in Gardena High School, uh a lot of kids from Compton will go to Gardena High.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

So so you had in that circle that first started ECM, it was like, you know, like four heads from Gardena. Yeah. And like the other six heads were from.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

So like what do you I mean I don't mean to cut you off, but like what what do you think? Like, do you think a crew that has a small, small amount of people make a bigger impact, or a crew that has a lot of people and make a bigger impact?

SPEAKER_03 12:18

So that's what happened with uh well with my crew.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

So this is what happened. Um my my homie Cunt uh from ECM who created the crew, uh, he used to be from D2D.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

And then DIS uh was another crew.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

And they were they had they had beef.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

I thought they were clicked, well, thought it was like clicked up, D2 DIS or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

This is before all that.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

I'm taking you away. Uh-huh. I'm taking you away back. Okay. So before all that, before D2D and before DIS became one thing, yeah, they used to beef it.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

There were there were beef. There was it was actually it was two big crews.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

And half of the crew that were both from the harbor area.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Only that so back to the same where we left off?

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Alright, so like I was saying, so during that time around like 90 93, 94, uh my homie uh cunt okay used to be from uh D2D and uh and uh ESK. Okay. And um and uh DIS and the D2Ds used to have uh beef with each other back in the day. So there was a lot of big names from D2D and DIS.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Fusion, soda, GNU, you know, um and then um heavyheader names, you know, just I'm talking about 110 uh bridges before the 105 came along. Before the 105 came along, yeah. Um so uh some uh it was like Harbor Area, Carson, Wilmington, all the San Pedro. Yeah, that's why the D2Ds have so many clicks and they have numbers.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

They have the six click, the fourth click, the seven click. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Because yeah, ever every uh city had a number with a click, you know? Yeah, and the D2D and the DIS did the same thing, you know? So um so what happened was that um my homeboy got my what my homie my hom my homie cunt um had ran into some DISs and then he had got jumped and they beat him up pretty bad.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

And he was backing up his crew, you know what I'm saying? Which was the D2Ds, and the DISs had messed them up bad. So uh Cunt came back and told the rest of his homies to back them up, you know. So he gathered them up and they already knew what part of the city they were hanging out in. Yeah. Different parks over there in the Harbor City Park that were known to be there, you know?

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

So they called uh a meeting and they were like, we're gonna go and fucking have a rumble with you fools, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 15:10

I haven't heard that in a long time, man.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Yeah, this is 90s graffiti shit.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

You know, back in the 90s. This is when graffiti was rumbles and battles and shit.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

This is when graffiti was at his purest, uh, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So um um they fucking roll D the D2DIS, including my big homie cunt.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

And this is before ECM.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Um, and they go to the park and they meet up with the D2DIS, and they see that the D2Ds are fucking strong.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

And the DISs are strong too.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

So um they met up and instead of having a fucking rumble, they squashed the beef.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

So they squashed the beef, and they were like a lot of fools were were already going hard from both sides.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

Like the D I the D the DISs had like GNU and Soda.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

And like the D2DIS had like, I mean the DTDs had like fusion and um man so many different fools that were killing shit. I think boner used to be one of the things.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

What happened to the D2Ds and the DISs though?

SPEAKER_03 16:21

So this is where I'm getting at now.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

So um they they got they got clicked up after that, yeah, and they became one strong unit.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Because now they joined powers.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

And now they got all the heavy hitters underneath their the same belt.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

So um my boy Cunt was mad because he had gotten beaten up maybe like about a few days before this.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

And he didn't get no no he got shortchanged, you know. So he was like, fuck this, I'm a fucking, I'm out here, I'm I'm I'm not joining the D2Ds, yeah, and D D S. I'm not you know, I'm not part of that shit, you know? So he gave it up and he was like, I'm I'm I'm a solo writer now, you know. So um he had uh uh m Mahomie Noise because they all still wanted they still go to Gardena High together.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

And um Mahomie Noise had a a girl cousin that was always in the in the in their group, and my homie cunt used to like her.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:25

And he would put her initials next to his name when he will go tagging. Yeah, because at this time there was no ECM yet.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

So um he'll put EC, which was her initials, Erica Cervantes. Oh wow. I got a picture on my phone right now that I can show you. Sure, it's sure, yeah. We want to see it all, man. Show until um at the Belmont Tunnel in downtown LA.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Legendary Belmont.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Yeah. Um, with the letters EC before it became ECM.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Oh wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

And this is like fucking during the 93, 94 era. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

So what made you want to get into ECM?

SPEAKER_03 18:07

Um, I had already seen them up.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Growing up on Inglewood side and all.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

You started as a solo writer? Was ECM your first crew?

SPEAKER_03 18:16

No, I started with little baby crews that were local high school crews that are like, you know, little baby crews that, you know, little homemade crews that you know neighborhood stop sign. And that's as far as we were getting, you know. Yeah, but um I started uh when I was in Inglewood, I started um with a couple of other cats that we weren't even focused, you know, we were like just experimenting.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

We're from um UST Unstoppable Tigers.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

And this was when I was in the fourth grade.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Oh right, damn.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

You know, and uh all we had was like uh one mean streak cut in half, blue and red. Okay, and then we're doused this out. That was our whole supplies, you know, and then from right there that died out, and then we turned it into um uh I think it was like CTR or something like that, which was limited time and it just died out real quick.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

And then uh we moved, I moved out of Englewood and uh moved to this side, and when I came here there was a couple of kids that were hitting up uh IgA.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

And um and uh so uh here was the picture right here.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

That's the Belmont Tunnel, uh, the little shack, the little house that was right there.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

I remember that.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

And this is my homie Does 12. He he's from Gardena. And then this is my homie cunt.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

That's my homie cut right here.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Y'all look like y'all are like nine or ten years old.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yeah, that they're in high school. They're uh they're in high school, they're like in a uh tenth grade or something. Yeah, so there goes uh cunt right there with the spray count on the bottom. Yeah, he's kneeling down into yeah, that's cunt, and that's noise. That's his my my other big homie, Noise ECM, and his girl cousin was the initials he was hitting up, and those are the initials right there, EC. You see it?

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Yeah, I see it.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Yeah, yeah, and that's before it became You haven't? No, so this is uh and uh that's before it became ECM, you know?

SPEAKER_00 20:40

So what made you put the M on the set?

SPEAKER_03 20:42

That's a great question. Alright, so in Gardena High School, yeah, they used to be East Coast Crips that used to go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they used to know cut. Oh, the East Coast Crips would be like, hey Cut, you from the hood now, East Coast, you know? And they were like, nah, man, well, man, I ain't from the East Coast, man. Nah, you know? So then um so they kept hitting the mob, like, hey cut, you from the you from the hood now? Yeah. Cut, you know? And he's like, nah, man, this is this is my girl, you know, like so then he just added the M for mob.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Picked up the the M and added the M from just mob, you know? Yeah because mobbers were mobbing, they were mobbing, you know? Yeah. And that's what he established the crew ECM, and it just stayed. That's that's when they got officially made, you know? Yeah, okay. Yeah, and then once they got made, this youngster right here, all three of those guys, they were killing the 110 back in. They used to have uh all the that's Dose 12. He had a partner called Seik 21, okay, and they were like partners in crime. You wouldn't see one name without the other. It was Sake Dose, Sake Dose, and respect to that fool, Dose 49, yeah. From the bus uh NHDs because I know who he is, you know, yeah, and I know about his work. I'm I originated as a bus killer, you know. That's what what got me killing shit. I used to kill the the buses, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

What line did you kill?

SPEAKER_03 22:14

I used to kill the 40, okay, uh, which is a South Bay bus that takes you to downtown.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

And then um I used to kill the Rosecrans bus.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

The 125.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

And that would go take all my work to my Compton homies that live, all my homies that live in Compton.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

And then um when I was uh I when we had just moved over here to this sign, and I was still living in Englewood, I would kill the Manchester bus, which is the the 115.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

I used to slam on the 115 all day, all the time. The La Brea bus. Mm-hmm. What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

That's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

I'm not fucking.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Huh? No, no, we're doing it all natural, man. We're all organic. Everybody else try to do the uh do the the podcast kind of like all quiet and shit. So, you know, just trying to get everybody, everybody in it. But if you want to introduce yourself, man, go ahead. You on the mic?

SPEAKER_03 23:19

You know that we gotta do the video too, though.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Oh no, we're gonna do the video. We'll keep everybody, you know what I'm saying?

unknown 23:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Um who's on your um who's your who's on your uh what do they call it? Mount Worshmore graffiti artist.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Who's your top five, man?

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Uh that's a that's a good question because it's just there's been a lot of fucking killers out there, though, you know?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Yeah, I mean whoever comes to mind, man, because I know it's uh it's a tough question. Yeah. But who will be on your top five right now? I mean, the most the people that who are the most influential to you.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Yeah, um I'll get um as a little kid, you know, like when I my eyes started like wandering around and shit and like paying attention. Um there was um I remember seeing um you know like they were kid they were fucking they were killing shit at the at the time. But it was mostly it was back then when I was young, it was not bombing wasn't I mean there were there was bombers out there, yeah. But like the tagging with the like the flares and like the the hangovers and like the that the the the banger spots, you know what I'm saying? Like it was you know like um I remember seeing um um this fool from uh from this side over here, he's uh he's passed away already. Um what is he? Uh Toll Tolls?

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Tolls from uh from I think STP or P I E or something like that. Tolls.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Sounds familiar, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Tolls, I can't yeah. He used to fucking kill shit, dog, and then this used to be another four that used to fucking and this is shit were not not on the bombing too, but on the on the tagging too, you know? So four used to write awesome.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

I can't remember what crew that cat was from, dog.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

But he used to have the like chaka, yeah. Just the crispy fat fucking tag letters, you know, with uh and he spelled out the whole whole word?

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Awesome, you know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

Awesome. I think that cat used to be from South Central, though.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

He used to write awesome, he used to kill a lot of spots.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

So we got awesome, we got tolls.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Yeah. You notice another another fool from over here on my side? Oh, I mean like just stood out, you know? Um Jigs.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Jigs, okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

J, I, G.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

S or Z or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah, he fucking had spots up the fucking stuff. Yeah, and there's uh another fool that used to um have a lot of tags too, and he was more down that way towards like the La Brea area. He was from a crew called EM.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

He used to write Weasel.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

That cat right there. I mean, this is like this is like during that time there was a there was a bunch of fools that were just like fat. I'm talking about the 90s, though. You know, the the tag with the fat cap. Like everybody was doing shit that Choco was doing.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

And like, like Chaco wasn't like the only fool, just yeah. You see how Chaco just gets his father.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

He's still out there right now, though. He started again, so I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

So back then, like back then, if you wanted to stand out, you had to be on that level. You had to have a you had to have your fat cap, yeah, and you had to have your name up what it can, yeah. In a nice tall spot or a nice sign or curb, you know, and multiple spots, you know what I'm saying? And if you were if you were not doing it on that level, you weren't really sticking out.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

You know? Because back then it was a lot of in the 90s, like the fitty was at its prime, dog, you know. So everybody was catching tags everywhere, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

So you got you got four. You got Weasel, Toes, Awesome, and Jigs. Yeah. What's your number?

SPEAKER_03 27:44

And these are I'm talking about the old school heads, you know what I'm saying? Um there's like these guys are probably people and people ain't even heard of this. I never heard of them. You know what I'm saying? You know whose house was fucking hard? And it sucks that we ended up catching beef with the crew, but like recently we some youngsters hit us up on the Instagram, yeah, talking about they wanted to squash it. Yeah. And we're like, yeah, fucking this quash this shit. This is nonsense. But there was some fool um uh he used to write uh extra H A I.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

I remember extra H A I.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

Man, hands down.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

He had some tags. I seen those tags.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Hands down for the HAIs did they think. I'm telling you, dog, these fools, yeah, we ended up catching beef with that crew dog, and then that's like like I know from the work that I've done, you know, in my time, and like, you know, you you respect fools that they're heavy hitters. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to catch beef with some yeah, it's like catching beef with like chocolate type shit. You know, you don't want to go around, you don't want that, you know. You don't want that, you don't want you don't want that smoke, I think.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

You know, yeah, I mean there's a there's respect that comes with the coaching, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Yeah, yeah, but um I don't know how it happened, and you know what? I'm gonna tell you this quick story, and this is how it really happened, just to get it out the fucking table. During that time, I was getting up. I was in my in my time, you know?

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

And um we'll go to Hollywood to the HAI area where they were their hometown.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Yeah. I remember that beef. You you guys put a lot of work in on each other.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

I remember that. I remember going to Hollywood, downtown. Yeah, we were going up because the HAIs are mostly like over there north, up north, and then they were in downtown a lot.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

And I remember that y'all used to slash each other up a lot, especially on the buses though. Yeah. On the buses.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

That was that was in my my my my my time. So what ended up ended up happening is that um they they I guess they got mad because we were going to their side of town and and hitting my crew up too much over there. They thought that we were like disrespecting their area, I don't know, somehow. But they ended up slashing us out, you know. And um, I was in my prime during the time, yeah, and we're like, no, you know, we ain't giving nobody no passes back then, you know? Yeah, we're gonna fight fire with fire, you know? So we ended up just going over there and slashing all this shit and just getting even with them, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

So during the time I had my partner was task 20, and um he actually got deporting and shit and went down a the gangbanging route and freaking, you know, his story was short-lived, but he was a a graffiti writer at top, you know, he was always putting to work with me. And uh we were out there putting in work and all that shit, and we never ran into any of them, but we were out there dissing spots and catching spots, you know. And um my uh and me and Task are from the South Bay click of ECM, you know, which is like you know, Inglewood, Lennox, Hawthorne, Law, and Gardena, you know? Okay. And uh, but like I told you, my my my big homies are from Gardena and Compton. And that's the the first clique, you know? Yeah. I'm from the second generation, okay, which makes them the first generation, which is Compton and Gardena, you know?

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

So um long story short, a couple of my homies from Compton, what that's my crew, you know, um, went to a party of function out there somewhere like in I forget if it's like in the um uh Watts area or somewhere on the South Central.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

And um there were uh the there was people there from HAI and there's people there from ECM. And um and the HAIs were like, hey, what what you guys are from ECM? Like, what's cracking, you know? And like my homies from Compton, they didn't know about all the all the activity that me and my boys were going at with these guys over here. Yeah, you know? So the homies from Compton were like, what you mean? The uh you guys don't get around with ECM. We are ECM, you know? And they were like, well, you know what? That's what the HAI guys were telling them. Yeah, they were like, well, you know what? Um if your homie Nast or task is not right here from ECM, yeah, then uh then it's cool. We don't we you know we'll you we ain't tripping on you fools, you know? But we got we know we got beef with them two guys, you know? And the homies were like, nah, that's that's us.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

No, we're that's the same crew, we're the same crew. And uh so the homies ended up smashing a couple of guys out over there from HI at that party. Yeah because they were looking, we weren't there personally, yeah, but like my crew was, you know? Yeah and um they bumped into the beef out there, you know? And I'm pretty sure if I would have been there, it would have would have cracked off, you know. And um, but uh me and my homie weren't there, you know? Yeah, and it cracked off, and uh coming to find out, I get a couple of phone calls later and they're like, hey, we just smashed out a couple of guys from HAI, and they were tripping, they were looking for you guys because you guys, you know, they they were they wanted they were they got beef with us, you know? Yeah, and I was just like, well, yeah, we we are beefing it with them fools, you know, it is going on, but we never ran into them, you know? And um, so they ended up catching some kind of wreck, you know, the homies to put in work on some of them fools out there, you know? Yeah and um and that was the only uh calash or uh encounter we had with them, you know what I'm saying? And this is probably back in like 90 while the we were active with that beef, you know? And um we've never I've never ran into them, they never ran into me. It's been like all kinds of years went by already, you know, and like the the slashing kind of died off, you know? Yeah, and um and uh like recently, like I said, somebody hit up some homies on Instagram, some youngster guys, you know, from HAI, and they're like, hey, what's up with the beef? Yeah with HAI. I was just like, yeah, honestly, that's old ass beef, you know, like we we never resolved nothing from it, you know. And um, and they were like, Yeah, man, we're youngsters from HAI, and and uh you guys dissed us over here and downtown, and I was like, Yeah, I can see that happening. They were like, Well, we don't want to slash no more and want to talk to my big homies so we can squash, squash the shit. And I'm like, they do like this squash that shit, it's just long overdue, you know. We could we're long past all that shit already, you know. And yeah, and uh we ended up squashing it so far with from those text messages on Instagram, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and um I don't diss their spots anymore, you know? Yeah, I uh I got nothing against them, you know what I'm saying? Um you know, um more power to them. Yeah, I do respect them as a crew, HAI man. Shout out to them guys, you know. Um but yeah, you know, just uh the the the longevity and time, you know. You get you know, back then I was my prime, I was a whole different person. Yeah back then, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Um I mean time changes things, man, so you know how that'd be. You know, you know, 30 years past, you like shit. I don't I don't really care no more.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

Yeah, straight up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

But um, yeah, man, that's that's dope, man. You guys can be able to uh squash that.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I'm looking at your your your spray paint on the wall. I see you you collect spray paint. I got my boy Maker, he has like, he collects spray paint too. He has a lot of cry lines and a lot of old Rostolium. So I'm looking at all this paint you got here, and I'm seeing cans that they don't make no more that I used to see in Home Depot. And uh what what's the what's the I see Maker do it, I see you doing it. What's the what's the what's the end game? What's the goal of collecting old spray paint? I know it sells.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Yeah. Uh I just do it because I'm just uh a collector, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

And um I see you got American accents too. I we were racking those at the 99 Cent store way back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

Yeah, I gotta I try to fucking have a little bit of every fucking different can that I can get my hand on, you know?

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Yeah, I see I see the cry lines, I see the old Montana cans.

unknown 36:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Oh man, a lot of cry lines. I don't see those Rostolium hard hat cans no more.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Yeah, those are those are old, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

But I remember racking those American accents from uh a 99 Cent store, Fairfax and um Wilshire and shit.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Yeah, back in the days, dog, so many mom and pop shops used to have fucking lick ass paint dog just slipping, dog, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

I'm saying you got like some rare colors of uh the Rustonian two times. Yeah, I don't see those colors at all in Home Depot.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

Yeah, Home Depot's been getting fucking ram-sacked, dog. Like it's hard to get to like certain colors. Like sometimes I uh I start using some of these colors, and see my strategy is use the ones that are modern right now with the recent labels.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:20

And as soon as I see that the labels switch, then I start holding back on those. Okay, and then I start trying to getting the recent ones, you know what I'm saying? Because I know that the that the labels changing, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Yeah. So um Are they full or are they empty?

SPEAKER_03 37:36

They're full. All my cans are full, dog. And then I I got a little pile over here that I have halfway in scraps over here that I use. And uh, but yeah, all my cans are full. Um and it's just from like the like I like I said, I got collection. I just collect personal ones that you know that that I came across. Like, and then I see different cans, like, you know, all these spray cans are coming out made for graffiti.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

And that shit was in unheard. That was unheard of.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:10

And so I'm like, as soon as like the first one started coming out, I'm like, oh, like I'm gonna buy this just to keep it because I know that shit's gonna change, you know, and like everything through time changes, you know?

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Yeah, man, smart, man. I wasn't even thinking about it. Yeah, so I always like hold on to what even with the um with the iron lacks you got right there, they don't have those cleared tops home no more. That's right. They got the little ones, the little that just covered the tip.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

I've never seen the iron lacks like that. And then Iron Lac lost a lot of distribution rights lately. So you're not gonna see Iron Lacks in uh United States like that no more.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Yeah, that's crazy. I never heard that.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

They only sell them, I heard they only sell them at um, what's that place, man? Um it's an art store.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Hobby lobby?

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Not Hobby Lobby. It's one over here in South Bay, Torrance.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Not Blick, it's the other one. They got one by Delamo Mont. It's an art store. Not Michael's, but the other one. Is it Jody's?

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Yeah, Jody and J. Joann's.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Joann's Joann's is I they said it's the only place that is selling the Ironlax. And I don't know how long that's gonna last. So Ironlax might be a collectible can pretty soon. Because I you can't I can't go nowhere to just buy it. Yeah. And then I used to buy my Iron Lacks off of um what's the old boy's name from a AWR? Um Shiver. Shiver. Used to buy mine from him, but he don't sell them no more.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

So because they want a certain amount of money, and you gotta buy a whole palette. Oh like palettes from them. They want wholesale. So man, but yeah, man, um, before we wrap this up, any um anything you want to say to the graffiti world? Any shout-outs you want to give out to anybody?

SPEAKER_03 39:59

Yeah, man, just uh go out there and we're gonna keep doing it, just try to crush it out there. Keep the goal, you know, to you know, like I you know, one thing I see now with graffiti is real trendy.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

And um it's drifting away from like the outlaw point, oh like the um how can I say the anarchy ism in in the you know, like the the you know the because like I feel like graffiti how like we were doing it back in the days, we were doing it more in the like of a crime element uh element. The crime element in it was heavily influenced, you know? Like back then we had to steal tips from fucking oven cleaners and fucking you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Yeah, dragon tips and all that.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

You know, so yeah, there goes one crime, we have to go steal tips. Yeah, you know, then we had to go steal the cans. Yeah, there's another fucking thing, you know what I'm saying? Then we we were fucking painting yards and shit, fucking abandoned yards, and the cops were fucking gonna bust you to catch you back there. It was heavily crime influenced, you know? Um now I see that everybody's like on like everything's like kind of like sugarcoated, you know?

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Like I mean the generations changed, man. So like those kids that were exposed to it or around it but didn't do it, grew up into adults. So they kind of understand it more or saw it more, so they so now it's like you making tips and paint for it, which is crazy. Cause I ran into the I hang out with the REMs or I talked to them. The OG REMs, not the new ones. I know you remember the OG REMs. And burnt and rats in them, they didn't they only painted with stock tips. They didn't paint with like no uh no fat caps or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

But you but see you gotta there's too there's a flip side to that coin though, you know what I mean? Because back then during that time, you couldn't get your hands on fat caps. We'll we'll go to stores and they'll be cleaned out. All the other cleaners are fucking gone. Yeah, all the fucking window cleaners, yeah. You so you were asked out. We only had we were making tips out of the stock tips, yeah. We were make clogging tips up, yeah, trying to get thin line. I mean, back during revealing large stages, yeah. Um it's not what it is now.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

So now it's like that was easy. You just go. I got some tips in my pocket right now. You just go buy some tips. Yeah, you know, you just go buy some tips and just put it on and spray. Yeah, you know. And then you got the low pressure paint, makes it easy.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Yeah, extremely.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

I remember uh uh tumor was showing me how to get take a high pressure paint can, turn it upside down, spray it, to make it more fl to take away the pressure out of it so it could spray better. Yeah he used I was like, god damn. He knew all the little tricks and shit to with the to maximize the effect of it. But you wouldn't know that if you came out, started painting in this generation. You wouldn't know all those tricks. I mean, yeah, but yeah, man, thank you, man. Um thank you for the interview.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Uh likewise, man.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Um any I'm gonna one more last thing, man. Is there anybody I know you were up to South Bay. Is there anybody are there any names that stood out in the South Bay uh that that you want to give a shout out to? From the South Bay? Yeah. Big names that came out of this site that like Like names that you remember, yeah that represented the South Bay. Um I want to say it probably Nixon. Yeah. Nixon was doing this. I don't know what happened to that guy.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

Uh rest in peace, Sadek, hello.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Sadek. Sadek did his thing, rest in peace. I kicked it with him I think once or twice uh before he before he left. I I think I kicked it with him at Venice Beach. It was LOL, that's when Sybil was around. Me and uh me and Eero rest in peace went to go see uh meet up with him at the beach. And um I hung out to hung out hang out with him, man. Real chill guy.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:27

Uh we were supposed to go paint, man, and you know, stuff happens, but uh rest in peace to that dude.

SPEAKER_03 44:34

Um I uh I talked to Cayo from LOL. Okay, and that's uh Sadek's boy, you know?

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:43

Um and uh Sadek always tells me he's like he's like Sadek man, he's he's uh he's like ECM. If it wasn't for the ECMs, he's like he would never start it and then true because uh Sadek used to paint with some guy named Pedos.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:00

And Pedos used to be from ECM.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

And um and they had their run together, you know, before he passed away.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:08

But uh he's from right here from he's from the hood right here, but the deck. Yeah, he's part of the town right here, you know. And um, but he used to look up to like me and my my boys, you know, and we were a big influence on him. And um he did it hard because he brought LOL out of the fucking city and made it fucking famous, you know?

SPEAKER_00 45:27

Yeah, so all the way up in um the Bay Area like crazy.

SPEAKER_03 45:31

Same thing with the CTFs. Um I used to kick it with uh with uh boost and rallows, man. Back in the days.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

I don't see boost no more, man.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

Yeah, I I still talk to him sometimes, you know? And it's crazy because after I fucking talked to him, like I went mommy with him a couple of times and caught a few spots. And then um somebody on Instagram hit me up and was like, oh watch out, that guy's got paperwork and this and this and that. And I was just like, when you hear when you hear shit like that, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 46:04

And you hear a lot of shit like that nowadays, uh uh paperwork coming up on writers, and I feel like um, you know, I feel like that's their business, you know what I'm saying? I know like some is some of that's pretty bad, but at the end of the day, that's their that's their business, you know what I'm saying? That's their personal life. And now you're bringing their personal life into the graph game. And that that, you know, that's that's some um some straight TMZ shit right there.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

Yeah, that's facts. You're speaking, you're speaking facts. Yeah, you're speaking facts out because um uh I'll like I said, like I've known them cats when they were when before they blew up with CTF, you know? Yeah um I would uh I would always sell butt to them guys, you know? And they would uh come buy butt off me all the time and and um and then the uh I remember I took uh that fool uh Nixon or Clone 49, yeah. And um what this fool or his other partner used to write was uh Mace.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

And um I took him to the 110 spot right here off of Segundo. And uh I was doing like outlines for them fools and they were just like filling in, you know? Yeah. And this is before they were even like doing letters, you know? Yeah. They were just tagging back then, you know?

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

And I was already trying to do my bombs by that time, you know?

SPEAKER_00 47:32

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Yeah, this is way back in the days.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Um that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 47:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Anybody else?

SPEAKER_03 47:40

Oh yeah, um sh shout out to uh I'm fucking I'm not even stoned right now.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Is there any is it is there any girls that you want to give any props to?

SPEAKER_03 47:52

Oh yeah, fucking uh Jism?

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Jism?

SPEAKER_03 47:55

Yeah, from your crew, yeah. Yeah, uh my nigga Level out there, that's my boy. Fucking uh right into fucking Edge the other day, too. I haven't seen that for thinking a minute though, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Think's doing his thing. For any other girls that you want to give it up to?

SPEAKER_03 48:12

Um there's a lot of girl writers right now doing shit, you know? Um shit. Uh I'll be chopping it over Home Girls, she's pretty cool. Phaser from uh I think she just got into uh HOF crew or something like that. HOF?

SPEAKER_00 48:28

Yeah not the same Phaser from STP, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:30

No.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

Uh HOF and I think she's from 4F crew or F4 or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Okay, yeah, I remember F4. I I know I heard I know who they are.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Yeah, she's been I've been seeing her up on Instagram. Uh Instagram shows you all kinds of shit, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 48:46

So it's not like the old days where you have to really go out on the streets and see people, you know. Yes, it's it's adds you just put in the hashtag or whatever pops up in your feed. But back in the day, really be out there in the streets seeing people, man.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Like back then, like fucking the girl writers, like from back then, um, she used to kill, like, kill, kill was uh a necessess from WAI.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

Man, she used to fucking.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

I've been hearing about her, man.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

Man, she used to put in work for a chick, dude. Yeah, she used to kill, bro.

SPEAKER_00 49:19

I've been hearing about her. I don't I I think she's be uh uh before my time, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

That's that's from my my era.

SPEAKER_00 49:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

Um the girl from TKL, what's her name? Jell from San Pito.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Okay. Right?

SPEAKER_03 49:32

Jill? Yeah, she goes, she used to kill too. It's uh the other TKO chick, uh uh Tribe. Tribe, she used to kill Grip shit too. Um what's Homegirl from Blossom from CVS and that old shit? Yeah, she used to fucking rock shit up too back in the days. Um these are all females from my generation that used to kill um Yum Yum OKS crew.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

OKS is now you're going way back then.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Yeah, let me tell you, I'm gonna give a little a little shout out for all the bus riders. Yeah, used to kill the buses when I was rocking buses. All right, so we got my my boy um uh nutcase NTS crew.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Uh yeah, yeah. Uh we got um If you gotta say him, you gotta say uh what's that dude's name from Colt CW?

SPEAKER_03 50:28

Uh Colt C A W?

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah, Macho.

SPEAKER_03 50:31

Oh, Macho too? Yeah. They're TBKs.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

That's what they're the original TBKs.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Yeah, the bus scratching on the windows and all that. CWs and used to be put in a lot of work.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

C AWs.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Yeah, yes, it's did too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Yeah, that's all my generation. That's my generation right there.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

Yeah, R T D Ks and R T D M's.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Uh RDH crew DAX.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

RDH. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Another another four. They used to rock buses. Um, who used to rock buses too old?

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Um I think the YRs, the YRs too, right? Y R.

SPEAKER_03 51:10

Yeah, yeah. They a couple, a couple. Um the CDPs.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

CDPs. COT COT was putting in a lot of work too on the buses. Modoc and them.

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Oh yeah, fuck yeah. Modoc can't forget about that guy.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

And then the BMFs, uh, Smack and Charm were putting in a lot of work.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

Oh, yes, sir. Um and Euler. Fuck yeah, dog.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

Euler was putting in a lot of work.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Bus kinning, dog.

SPEAKER_00 51:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:34

Um the OKS, back to the OKS was uh, what's her name? Uh what it's a boy. Um uh WAC WACO? What was it? Wacko's familiar though. Yeah, he was killing shit. Um Verdes C E W. Sursec C E W.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

Yeah, you had the CWKs too on there. CWKs.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

Oh yeah, C W Ks.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

Circo. Um there's a lot of people. You had the acrylic on the seats, everybody was killing buses, man.

SPEAKER_03 52:07

Um, what was it? Uh LAPD crew.

SPEAKER_00 52:14

LAPD.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Um was doing a lot of damage on there.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

Yeah, I ran into them recently too. Yeah. Um let me see why the crews used to kill buses back in my time. Uh the C D Ps from the the C oh, Frac 37?

SPEAKER_00 52:39

Frack 37. Frack.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

He was doing the same thing I was doing, fat scratches.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

And I do bass too, boss or bass and C D P.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Oh yeah, fuck yeah. Mob Bass.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Mod, yeah. Yeah, bass.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

B A B A S S, right? Yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah, it was a killer right there.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Then you had the then you had the, you know, it was, you know, Fixer was doing his thing too.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

Fixer was doing the damn thing too.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:02

I remember going into uh into one of my buses that I had already mobbed up all the windows with a white streak.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

I had killed the inside of the bus. Like the bus driver, the mirror was, you can see the back. So I killed all the inside of the bus with my white streak. And I caught that same bus like a week later, and it had a bunch of fucking uh f uh what is it uh fixer?

SPEAKER_00 53:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 53:27

Uh i2 dub, right?

SPEAKER_00 53:28

He was i2 dub, ETI, MTA, back then K.

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Yeah, back then he was killing with the i2 dub though. Like that's his original crew, first crews, I think. CDP i2 dub, I think.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

Um and his shit was all over the place. But him and uh Frac 37.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:47

Yeah, um TCK.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

TCK.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Uh some fool used to write Chip Twin. Mm-hmm. Um, all kinds of names.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

They had a lot of heavy hitters too. OKS is we're doing anything like that. Fuck the GBCs too. Oh yeah, GBCs? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

There was some fool that used to write um Cuba for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Cuba, yeah. I remember Cuba, Doom, Doom and Cuba, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Um, the C the G B C's, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

We um G A C too, they were going at it too. G A Came. Then don't forget about the NHDs and N A C's on that shit. Yeah, hell yeah. And their shit going on.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

But alright, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap this up because I gotta go do some things. We're gonna do a part two of this. Yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, man, thank you, man. For this interview. I'm gonna put it out soon. Um and uh thank you.

SPEAKER_03 54:45

Yeah, no doubt, man. Thank you. That looks stripped out. What is that, like a little coat or something?

SPEAKER_00 54:51

Um, my tattoo right here is um it's abracadabra. Um abracadabra uh in a triangle going downwards, just some like some magic shit like that.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Okay.