Fayette County Landowners Fight A 190 Foot Power Line Plan

They’re talking about “resiliency” and “economic development,” but what we’re hearing on the ground in Southern Fayette County sounds like something else entirely: a massive high voltage transmission line pushed forward while the people who live on the land scramble for basic facts. I’m joined by Susan, who walks us through how neighbors got blindsided, how routes reportedly shifted from several options down to two, and why blurred maps and missing property owner lists turn a legal deadline into a trap for ordinary families.

We dig into the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission process, what it means when a private company like Nextera is discussed as seeking public utility status, and why eminent domain is the phrase that stops landowners cold. Susan explains what she has found in public documents, what she still cannot get answered directly, and why West Virginia’s organizing effort highlights how far behind Pennsylvania residents feel. We also talk about what these towers could mean for everyday life: right-of-way limits that affect building and farming, disruption to the Laurel Highlands’ scenic value and tourism economy, and personal fears around electromagnetic fields, wildlife impacts, and even interference with medical devices.

Then we connect the local fight to the bigger picture: AI data centers, regional power demand, and the claim that Pennsylvania utility users could be on the hook, including an $812 million figure discussed on-air, while electricity is routed toward other states. If you care about property rights, rural communities, transparent government, and energy infrastructure that treats locals as stakeholders instead of obstacles, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this with a neighbor, and leave a review with your take: should landowners have the power to say no?

Transcript

Welcome And Sponsor Thanks

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Hey everybody, this is John Marietta, and I am the Hillbilly. And I want to thank you for tuning in to our podcast radio show. The views are going out of this world. I want to thank everybody that's uh involved in sponsoring this for us. And if you want to get involved, please get a hold of us. You can contact us, uh johnmarietta.com, and uh we'll we'll be gladly uh able to take your graphic and put it up there with all the rest of them we got. We're also on TikTok right now, and that is going. We just started that by mistake this weekend. It wasn't supposed to start to Monday, it started on Sunday, and uh we got the wrong date in there, but uh it's going crazy. We got views on some of the videos already just on TikTok. Um approaching 10,000. But, anyways, let's get started. I'll tell you what, friends, they're fixing to string a high voltage scar there across Southern Fayette County, and the folks who actually live on this land are the last ones anybody in power is listening. You've got billion-dollar energy outfits talking pretty talking pretty about regional resiliency and economic development. Man, that was pretty big words. But while they really what they really see is your ridgetops and family farms as lines on a map to be carved up by steel tires and wire.

A Wake Up Call On The Line

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Once the bureaucrats stamp that approval, here comes eminent domain. And a fake county landowner's choice boils down to this don't get to say no, you only get to argue over the price of your own loss. And where are all the so-called leaders? Yeah, where are our leaders? Our senator from the 32nd district ought to be locked arm in arm with landowners and ratepayers, not hiding behind press releases, and silence in silence while corporate lawyers draw the future of our county. Our county commissioners, the same bunch that never met it at a tax hike they didn't like, suddenly can't comment when it comes to how this line will slice through your property, hit assessments, and haunt county taxpayers for decades. The good book says, Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, so there be no place. That's exactly what's happening. When politicians of power companies team up against the people who hold the deeds and pay the bills, this isn't about poles and wires, neighbor. It's about whether the landowner still has any say in the land, whether taxpayers still can say in the future of have a say in the future of Fayette County. I am John Mario, the Hillbully, and this is your wake-up call. Because if we don't stand up now, we'll be starting staring at steel in the sky, wondering why nobody in Harrisburg or at the courthouse ever bothered to stand with us until it mattered. I will tell you this. Charity Grimm is uh standing up for these people. Uh she's she's a representative. I probably should have worked that into my opening. Uh, we have to give her credit. She is standing up for the people out in um in the southern end of the county. Um, and uh we have to give her credit for that. She's she's done doing what she can. Hopefully, hopefully we're able to ride this out. We're able to uh get uh people that are doing this uh a change of heart and maybe look at things a little different. But anyways, I have Susan and Susan, I want you to tell us your last name so I don't Zahosky.

SPEAKER_04 4:40

Zahosky Good old Irish name, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

Uh and uh she she happens to be a friend of a friend, and uh said uh Minister at Solid Foundation Ministries uh said Susan, time you go on John's show and talk about this. Um what I do want to talk about is is uh this kind of was dropped

Susan Zahosky And The First Notices

SPEAKER_02 5:05

onions like all once.

SPEAKER_04 5:07

We've been blindsided. There's no other way to put it. We we had no warning really that this was coming. Um a year ago, uh I was at the meeting, go ahead. Yeah, well, a year ago at Fair Chance Far Hall, next era had sent out postcards. Our neighbors all got them, not but not every landowner got them. There was quite a few that did not. I found out by accident, and I was informed that the meeting was the following day. So I made copies of their postcards and took them around and put them in the property owners that live close to the current power line that's going over our property. I mean, I've had two public utilities go across my property already. I have water towers on my ground, I have an existing power line that's been up there, and it's a small one compared to what's coming through. They're calling this a mega uh transportation highway for power and these towers, and I read the documents at the Smithill Library. There, the smallest tower will be 145 feet, which is pretty much double the size of what we have, up to 190 feet. And anyway, we went to the meeting, and um they said there were seven routes, and it was very unlikely that they'd come over us. Well, then there was nothing else said or heard. No one was notified, nothing in the papers. And um, people communicate differently now. The Uniontown newspapers no longer delivered, you get it in the mail, and it's you know limited as to what they put in it. Uh, if you're on Facebook, you're not always getting the facts. And, you know, if you get a television show or a podcast like you have, you may get some correct information from that. But in my area, no one knew what was going on. Still to this day, I'm having difficulty getting the property owners notified that they have condensed these lines in the two routes, and we're one of them. West Virginia has had a whole year to get their attorneys, their groups together, and theirs is called WATI, West Virginians Against Transmission. I forget what the I stands for. Um, in pick an I word. Okay. But anyway, but they've had they've got their attorneys, they have their support groups, and all the property owners there know that they're touching their property. To this day, I cannot get an accurate answer from Nextera what property owners are actually affected.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

And Nextera is the company that's going to be the transmission company.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

They they have um the initials M-A-R-L, which is the transmission energy grid for three different states. But the problem is with Nextera, it's a private company and they build transmission lines. We found out thanks to charity Grim Krupa and uh Errol Lawrence from the Secretary of the Pennsylvania Public Utilities Commission, and he notified charity that this was going down and that he was against it. Because number one, what they're doing, they're taking our natural resources that we have here in Pennsylvania, and we're literally an extension cord taking our power down to Virginia. Now, they don't pay our taxes, and they're definitely not going to pay our bills. And we have we share a major cost in the development of this line.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

That's something that they don't want us to know, no matter who it is. That's why I got involved uh in it the way and started talking to people and trying to find out what I could, because it's not just gonna affect the people out in Spring Hill Township. Right, correct. It's all of Pennsylvania, it's gonna be everybody in Fayette County is gonna get affected by this in some way. Um, because let's let's let's think about this. If you take an extension cord and run it from Uniontown to Smithfield, guess what? It might start out at 120 volts, but it doesn't make 120 volts at the end. So somewhere along the way, they got to add power to this to make sure it makes the right amount of power at the opposite end. So that's how we're gonna lose because they're gonna steal our power that we're they're stealing our resources.

SPEAKER_04 9:31

And what are we gonna do when we run out of resources? Are they gonna give us resources to power our state? No, thank you. No, no, but they want us to help pay so they can take power to Virginia. Um, there was a law in Pennsylvania that no other state could come in and take our resources, and four, four months ago, almost five months ago now, there was a judge out towards Philadelphia that changed the law that they could. And then he retired. How convenient. But at any rate, Ben Nextera applied for their permitting to the PUC, and that's when Darrell Lawrence found out about it. We didn't know that they had applied for eminent domain, even though they're a private company. Only utilities can apply for eminent domain. At this time, they just build transmission lines and they're out of Florida. And at this point in time, we don't have a power source built for them to transmit the power. Now, there's a lot of talk about what's going to happen in Green County. And uh the old ravine of mine, it's supposedly going to be the site of an AI center, but they have their own water, their own power plant. They're not taking power from anywhere. As far as I know, I did not do any research on that, other than I know the name of the project. Uh, as far as a power plant, it still would have to be built to take the power to Virginia.

Routes Shrink As Clarity Disappears

SPEAKER_04 10:55

They're getting a cart before the horse in the sense they're they want to be a public utility, but they're a private company. They are not a public utility yet. But we have a deadline to protest them becoming a public utility, and it was April 1st. Well, charity was successful in moving the date May 1st. So after they applied, they had 60 days for people to protest against their coming through. We're in the Laurel Highlands. We, in fact, I just Googled it. We're like rated across the nations as one of the most beautiful places to visit. And we have so much to offer in these areas. And actually, today, um, they just declared Laurel Caverns a state park.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

That was, yeah, yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

Well, yesterday. But these monster lines, and when I say monster, they're going to be hideous. What we have now has one layer of power lines going across. These are going to be multiple layers and 190 feet tall. So you can imagine, you can probably see them from five miles away. And the current power line actually crosses Skyline Drive relatively close to where Laurel Caverns is. So they're taking all our scenic beauty here and they're trying to industrialize it. We already have windmills. We already have a power line. And like I said, how many public utilities can they put over a person's property? There should be a limit, number one. But number two, we've had no notice. So here we have we have until May 1st and the protests, the eminent domain. It's a separate form, the protest, the transmission line with two different docket numbers. And what I'm very upset about is I read all their literature where they research the environmental impact and the uh environment and the rivers and blah, blah, blah. It's available, by the way, if anybody has time. Smithville Library is open on Tuesdays and Thursdays, 12 to 4. And Point Marion Library is open Monday through Thursday from 4 to 8. You can actually go look at the maps. And in West Virginia, they have all the maps outlined with the size of the property with the property owners' names. They hit Bunker Hill and it stops. The people in Pennsylvania actually don't know for sure who's being affected directly. And but they did all this research, so they should know which way they're coming. At one point in time, there was a map out and it showed people's little houses and where it was going. And I'm told that's no longer available to see. And what they're putting in the paper is vague and the lines are blurred, and they have the option of moving it. So if a landowner is supposed to protest them coming across their property with a special docket number, and you don't know for sure if it's coming that way, okay, we'll move it five, uh, 500 feet down this way, it's a different property owner. It's not fair to the property owners to have such blurred information, let alone blurred map lines. So we don't really know who's going to be directly impacted. Now everybody can fill out comment forms with a different docket number. So if you go to the PUC website and you can protest, but you have to go down and protest transmission lines and eminent domain. They were supposed to try to make it a little bit user-friendly, but the last time uh it was checked that I'm aware of, uh, you had to have a PDF valve, you had to be able to print it, sign the form. So let's make it a little more complicated, you know, for the average person to do. And we have an older community here. I mean, there's people that don't have cell phones, let alone a computer set up in printers.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Well, I'm sure some of the farms that they're going across are generational.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Oh, five generations or more.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Yeah, and I'm sure and I'm sure that some of the people are, you know, okay.

SPEAKER_04 14:54

And uh I have property that's set aside for your grand for your heirs, correct.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Yeah, so so they can everybody does. They can uh if they decide they want to build, that I mean, we'll make make that happen.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Uh uh somehow. Somehow. I mean uh but anyways, that that that was the whole idea. So now what you're saying is you're gonna put power lines through. You probably can't you can't build underneath them.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

And you can't probably build anywhere close. What do you well, how close can you build to them?

SPEAKER_04 15:29

Well, you can't. The first meeting they had, they said they were taking a hundred feet. Well, that doesn't sound like much. But then I found out they're taking 50 feet on either side to maintain their right-of-way on either side. So now we're up to 200 feet. So, and if they're going uphill, downhill, round a curve, whatever, depending on the terrain, they can take as high as 700 feet, which is substantial. But the biggest concern is the towers we have now, they of course you know they emit electromagnetic waves. Yeah. And these waves uh interfere with wildlife, bats, bees, uh cats. Oh, yeah. Fun fact uh they I read an article where power lines affect the sperm count in cattle. Well, what does it do to human beings? You don't see articles about that because there's power lines all over the country. But um, I found out too, Metronics is um medical supply people. A lot of people have insulin pumps from them, implanted defibulators, pacemakers, um, whatever. And with an aging population, there's a

Nextera, PUC Filings, Eminent Domain

SPEAKER_04 16:35

lot of new things available. They can't be close to power lines. They malfunction, they're not accurate. And uh nothing's said about that. And uh as far as being a nurse, I know, you know, exposure to high power lines, you know, it's a threat to children's, they're at risk for brain tumors and leukemia, and absolutely everybody. Right now in the area where I live, with the existing power line, every single household has had a case of cancer. Every single one, including my husband. We have bladder cancer, cancer on their feet, lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, just right around my little area, every single household. Well, and so we're going from small towers with one row to 190-foot towers with multiple layers of wires. So that electromagnetic field is going to go even further.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

So you're talking about football field if is is a hundred yards. That's where that's one end zone to the or from one goal to the other.

SPEAKER_04 17:37

And 100 feet is what they said originally. 100 feet, 50, right.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

But now you're talking about two-thirds of a football field high. 190. I mean 200 feet would be so uh I I I a lot of people don't realize this, but the windmills are uh over 300 feet high.

SPEAKER_04 17:57

Um and so these are gonna be close.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

They're gonna well, they're gonna be 100 feet shorter than the windmills, but but you'll still be see you'll be able to see them for miles. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:06

And here we are, our scenic Laurel Highlands. Uh oh, I think we're uh as far as a site forest, uh we have almost two billion dollars that come in from forests that come to our area. You think they want to look at that? Yeah, I mean, the natural beauty that's here, you know, and the AI plants, it's not that I'm against them, but I mean, as far as their technology with everything, they need the water, they need the extra power, uh, they generate heat, they're adding to global warming. And everybody's jumping on the bandwagon for this. And, you know, to me, I'm comparing it to a Model T. Oh, yeah, we got the idea, it's going to get us from here to here, but now we got Cadillacs and supercars. You know, I think they need to fine-tune their technology before they put them all over the planet. That's my belief. They need to make them more efficient and not destroy the planet.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

One of the biggest things that uh uh with uh with it is uh data centers that people don't realize the bigger they are, the more water they need. Because they have they have to cool, they have a cooling tower, they have to cool everything. So that's that's where we're at with that. And uh I don't think people realize uh some of the bigger ones uh using a billion gallons of water a year. And and uh and now they're saying, well we can recycle that water. They're gonna they're only so long, but but yeah, I mean water evaporation and then it's contaminated and it's contaminated, and where are they gonna bury that out?

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Where they got the nuclear waste, same place. Pity those people.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Well, uh like I said, I uh I was I was involved uh with uh with some people with the injection wells when that all started. Uh and so you have to start thinking about things. Uh how this is gonna play Fayette County. I mean, everybody wants jobs, everybody wants uh uh everybody wants another thing. But this isn't going to create jobs for hardly anybody. I mean, there'll be a few jobs that people will get.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

And actually they have their own people, you know. Maybe they may hire somebody from the area to take our timber, which they will, our our our mineral rights, you know, and then they destroy the ground. I mean, you they say, oh, you can still farm. It's like, no, you can't. I mean, you can have them not spray the chemicals. My my property has freshwater springs, you know. So it's like if you don't have it as pasture, I we grow other things, but you know, but as far as cattle goes, that's about all you can really have underneath these power lines. And they're going through big farms in our area. If you take away all of our farmland, I mean, people don't realize how much our farms produce around here. We grow the corn that goes for ethanol gas and soybeans and the hay for the cattle, and it they're going through some of our biggest farms. Like that's their number one route to farms. Well, when you destroy all the farmland, where we could get food. I mean, they don't think about that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I I'm friends with Richard Byrd, so uh, and of course, through a lot of different things, but I mean, he he's gonna I mean I mean, I know that the thing of it is is like you say, they're raising corn for ethanol.

unknown 21:27

Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:27

So it affects everybody. So they're coming, point Marions get hit hard. If you do go to those libraries and look at the maps, and you can like I said, they took people's net property owners' names off because they don't want people to know they're being affected. So if you can decipher their maps, good luck. I mean, I was able to see just because I know the lay of the land and and in some maps, they don't even show the highways and the roads that are crossing.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

So, like you said, it's just I know I looked at the last year when we was at uh Fairchance and I looking at it and uh somebody came to me and um um we've got a map put up right now but uh they had seven different routes i think it was and and they combined them into two it was awful confusing the way they were doing it and i and i'm sure it's intentional i'm sure that that was intentional okay

Laurel Highlands Beauty Versus Towers

SPEAKER_02 22:20

so let's let's cut to the chase if uh virginia needs this much power why don't why don't we just uh we'll mine the coal here and we'll send it to Virginia and let them let them make well they went green under the Biden administration and when Obama was in they went green they shut down 20 of their coal powered plants now they rebooted a few to start to generate some power but what happened was Virginia gave all these companies major tax breaks to build AI centers.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

So they all swarmed into Virginia and built their AI centers and they have hundreds of them and of course with the major drain on the system the brownouts and blackouts and everything they have down there and the water it needs that it's they're draining their resources so they can have these AIs. So in Pennsylvania in fact my husband just went a webinar on AIs currently Pennsylvania has 11 the minute and they're projected to have 52. Virginia has hundreds but the government gave them tax breaks so they all came in well now they've been in there so many years tax breaks are over some of them are shutting down and pulling out so now they're looking for they're looking for somewhere else to go. Yeah and so this power line it might might be a a bit of a ruse the because of in the sense right we're taking it through oh no they still want our power oh they still want our power you know at whatever price uh we're like we don't count we're second class citizens you know that's the thing it's evidently they're more important so there's going to be a meeting in Smithfield right yes we had passed we've been passing out forms that people don't oh and by the way if you are a landowner you have you're supposed to fill out the protest form nobody knows if they're landowners or not with a different docket number so there's been forms being passed out but nobody's returning them but on the protest forms it says must be overnight mailed we will never make it there by May 1st May 1st uh and it happens over a weekend May 6th they're gonna let them know if they can become a public utility or come take our property. And when I say take our property if anybody researched this eminent domain this law came out in the 1700s it hasn't been changed and we were mostly forest back then and property land was cheap. Well land is valuable now and in our area nobody sells plots of land cheaply at all the farmers are hanging on to theirs for dear life pass on. And it's mostly if you get land in this area it's inherited from a family member you might buy a lot but you're not going to buy plots at 2030 uh they're going through the Goodwin farm I know for sure they're going through the pine tree farm quarter pine pine tree farms they're gonna destroy that property they already had their property is so beautiful they set up for a wedding venue they already have photographers that come up there and take pictures of the sunsets in the pine trees when her family goes out and their portraits they don't do it but other people come in but they already did all this permitting and now they're going to destroy that I mean they support multiple families off what they make there and they're cutting into these people's livelihood and eminent domain is pennies on the dollar. I took talk to a land assessor up in West Virginia talking to a lot of people you know because I've been trying to get the word out there. But anyway he said he had a case where the people paid $19,000 an acre for their retirement home built their little cabin in the woods with everything and a section of power line came over their property over their house. They paid them $5,000 for everything they took but they paid $19,000 an acre now you know and the sad part is not only they're coming through a it's we're populated now there's houses everywhere you're gonna hit houses and oh it interferes if you're close enough electromagnetic waves interferes with telephones cell service internet besides the and medical equipment there's a lot of inconvenience here that people's gonna suffer long after they're gone and they take your property guess what you still get to pay taxes on it even though they take it well then you can't use it you still have to pay the taxes on it it isn't like they it isn't like they're gonna pay taxes on a on the right of way this law needs modified now I mean this is in fact it needs stopped people really and it's not okay and people think oh it's not coming over us if they start bringing in more AI plants yes it can come over you and

EMF Fears And Health Questions

SPEAKER_04 27:05

we're trying to stop this entirely we don't want to push it over on a neighbor and let it become their problem we want to stop it. We want to maintain our area we want to keep it a tourist attraction and they're not providing jobs if they would build a power plant maybe with AI they'll probably run itself but maybe you might have a hundred or maybe even 200 maintenance workers something if they build a power plant in Green County like there's been talk of that. But as far as building they're bringing their own people you know like I said you might get someone to cut down the timber but that's it's not jobs it's a farce it's they're not so basically they're gonna say they're gonna clear a 200 foot WAF. Minimum. Minimum minimum but like you say if they go out to go around a turn or over or up but and um there's property owners that don't have no idea that they don't so so uh it West for the people in West Virginia are are fighting this also oh my they've they've had a whole year to fight it they have their groups they have their own attorneys it right now if people fill out a comment form uh it's just a comment it goes and just concerns citizens if you're a protest form it goes in front of a judge right now we do not need an attorney there's a space on the for but right now we don't need it we're just voicing our objections and the last uh they tell you if you call next era we'll return your phone call in 48 hours I've made three phone calls in the last three weeks I every Monday I make my phone calls I'm waiting for a reply I mean I mean they did talk to me twice so evidently they don't want to talk to me anymore but all I'm trying to do is find out what property owners are affected. It's so unfair put out a deadline and documents legal documents that go in front of a judge and people don't know you know it's like getting charged for a crime and you didn't know what you did or where it happened at you know but it's going to go to court. So the only the only two people or the only or the only person that that's actually an elected official that's actually been able to help you install is Charity Grimm yes yes and uh oh charity grimm Krupa a hundred percent yeah and uh but you would think that our state senator would would be jumping on board about this I have the documentation all the legal forms they found every single elected official has been notified every single one the township supervisors the county commissioners uh all the way up I if like I said and it's at the library you go read it um it's all there and I'm telling you there's a stack of legal forms probably 16 inches tall that you have to flip through they even got copies of the landlord that they're going to give to me everything's all foul they are ready to go and the only thing stopping is is Apple and that's what we need the people to return your forms. I volunteered to pay for the mailing to get them overnight mailed to Harrisburg just so our voices heard right now thank thank you Sean Marietta for allowing me this time to speak to people and make them aware of what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Well the the um I haven't seen nothing at the reporter's office so I'm recording I haven't seen they haven't as far as I know they haven't filed anything at the reporter's office that will happen after the protest and like you say they probably have all the documentation ready to go. Oh yeah and when it comes in it'll come in in a box in a big box.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Well the county commissioners already told me that I went to one of their meetings and we were allowed three minutes to speak because we weren't on the agenda. But then of course we've had a time restraints uh but yeah yeah they did say they already they did receive a box of paperwork but they didn't read it so um they have an attorney on it so uh they don't know what's going on either and they didn't give a yay or nay as to how they felt about it.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Well um they need to they need to take a stand on it they need to take a stand on us uh I think there's some other things went on with uh some other things that the commissioners uh uh and that they needed they need to take a stand on it they need to protect Fay Account that's their job that's their job well and that's it and for as far as they're not uh they weren't put in an office and paid a salary represent uh private investors

Farms, Right Of Way, Lost Use

SPEAKER_02 31:50

or private companies but but you'll find out you'll find out that these same county commissioners have signed NDAs so they don't have to report why some of the things what's that I mean excuse me an NDA yeah it's a it's a non-disclosure agreement they they they sign them they sign them with uh they sign them with Fay Pen which is which what part of public official where is that in the definition they have excuse me are you kidding me no I'm not kidding you gotta be kidding no I'm not kidding you I'm not lying I got we got the documentation I got oh my god we we got it uh Scott Dunn and uh Scott Dunn and Vince Facides you know the names you can try uh know and trust to raise your taxes all the time they uh they they they've signed NDAs with Fay Pen and Fay Pen's gonna get involved in this project somehow somehow I guarantee it but wait a minute they're a public official that aren't allowed to talk to us is that what you're telling me if if they if it if it's going through Fay Pen. And what's different isn't Fay Pen a public no faiPen is an private is it a private it's in no okay clarify please we fund FAPEN. Okay taxpayer taxpayer dollars so it's public so no it it's called why not it's called an NGO non-government organization so they that it's it's all over the country I mean I I I I got a phone call from Maine just uh last night or the night before uh that they they seen my podcast about what we were doing I get a phone call from fellow uh fellow in Maine it it these NGOs are gonna be the it's it's the um how do I want to say it it's it's the uh secret society of government that that you know it's the secret part of the government that nobody wants you to know about they do sign NGOs charity grimm wouldn't sign one we're we're on we're on we're looking into some other officials that might have signed her what's that less heart well yeah I mean uh and and when I get in trouble because uh I point this out to people on radio shows and the podcasts and different things they he he just put the ND um he's up there right now the the non-disclosure agreement got done and it's faced signed it's up it's up for everybody to see these people I don't I don't I don't I don't get why they think they're above us. I mean we elected them to protect their job when you take your oath of office you're supposed to it means that you're protecting the public and you're working for the public I was totally unaware of that but oh yeah I I I didn't mean to I didn't mean to blindside you with this oh no I've been blindsided here for the past but but uh four months and I I appreciate I mean there's so much information here so that we that we can get out to people there's gonna be a meeting in Smithfield where at uh at the Hayden town at the Haydentown okay fire social hall the fire department social hall on top of Hayden Town Hill.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Okay so and that is going to be Friday no Thursday April 9th at six o'clock and we're gonna help people fill out forms I'm trying so hard to try to get the property owners' names so the people that know they're going to be impacted and I have a few because I I have some people helping me look this stuff up uh everything I've gotten has been from their documentation or from googling on the internet trying to find it they still haven't said where the I mean they haven't determined where this line's going to go through and and and that's that's totally gonna harm us because people that should be protesting don't know about it and they'll say okay well these people protest we'll just move it over here these

AI Data Centers And Power Export

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people didn't fill out paperwork I feel that anybody in Fayette County should fill out the protest because they're coming through here and they combined the lines they had ABC D and F. We're we're route C and F. And if you look at their maps they're basically going mostly through West Virginia there's only like 10 miles coming through Fayette County but it's still going to cost Pennsylvania tax uh not taxpayers Pennsylvania utility users $812 million. Say that one more time eight hundred and twelve million dollars over the next 15 years that our electric bills are going to go up to pay for power to go to Virginians and that is totally wrong.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

I am sorry I'm dead set against this well I mean the way I look at it is uh Virginia can they they need if they need power which they need you live within your means but no well that's not they can't afford to ride the issue here the issue is here we'll we'll gladly sell them the coal gladly make sure they got the natural gas and then they can build they can they can build a power they don't have to transmit it from from Illinois right isn't that where it's coming from no no no no it's coming from Green County oh the edge the border West Virginia no I mean where the originated where the power originates from it's it's it's a power Illinois or Indiana I I can't I can't answer to that.

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I thought I saw no they call it the f uh 502 junction it's uh so they're gonna build so they're gonna build a they're gonna build this power plant in Green County they're talking about it it's not there yet I don't know what's happening with that I don't have any solid information about that but but you can't build a power line if you don't have a power company to generate power and put in the power line but like I said they they want to do the power line first so it got to cart before the horse you know but well that that that yeah but uh if the power was coming to Pennsylvania it would be one thing you know but that that is my biggest grievance that is and uh my husband was getting paperwork from people in Virginia and Maryland they don't want this anger yeah because it's got to go through Maryland. Yes and it's got to go through Port It's going through West Virginia Maryland and into Virginia okay people Google power uh transmission line towers over 190 feet we had a power plant here in Masontown that did ship a lot of power to Virginia yeah and after they retooled it and made it non-polluting and everything else they poured down yeah yeah thank you thank you our our government at work thank you and took the jobs away thank you Barry Obama how about that uh I mean but anyways contact information if somebody needs to get a hold of you um actually I I don't know what would be best I don't do Facebook just because I still work I don't have time to deal with it but um my phone number it'll probably be blown up well but if you come to the Haydentown Social Hall and I will be there this is our big event and that's Thursday night Thursday night what time's it's talk so it's starting at 6 what time are you going to try I mean how long you want to be there you'll be there till the doors open if people are coming in I will be there. I know all the firemen out of the I know all the firemen out of Hayden town they're they're wonderful people they

Protest Forms And Smithfield Meeting

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are well we want to get as many forms turned in filled out correctly filled in and I want to overnight mail them so they will have something setting before this deadline that you know that a few people are aware of the situation.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

You're probably going to end up with with the amount of positions you have you're probably gonna have to have a carrier take them thank you I don't care what it costs I'll get them there. If I have to drive them myself I will I it's just so disturbing Bud Cook's involved in this too.

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Yes and he and he's and he's and actually Farmington uh some of the um farmen and some people from Farmington came to the the uh meeting it's at Smithfield yeah because it's going through them too.

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And I know I know Harry Cochran and he was trying to he was trying to figure it out too yes he's running for Senate yeah and um and I I was there well let let's do this uh please please if you have time get to the Hayden town fire department on Thursday night and this show's gonna go out uh we're gonna try to get it out first thing tomorrow morning if we can but uh we'll get it out uh Thursday night Thursday night that'll give it a day and uh maybe we can throw together something else for you if we've got two minutes tonight get it get it out on Facebook a little bit bigger and better so Susan I really appreciate you coming in and I really appreciate you giving me the time to well we're gonna we will make people aware we're gonna do updates I am totally against so I want to I want to thank that law needs changed yep so okay hey we're gonna close up and I always close up with this on this road called life you have to take the good with the bad smile with the sad love what you got but always love what you have always rem always forgive but never forget people change things go wrong but just remember the ride goes on God bless each and every one of you God bless America I am John Marietta and I am the hillbelly