Episode 3: Social Life

Phil and Shannon discuss having a Social Life with raising their Family and struggles that happen with it. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:36

I think we're going to have to start calling this like the late night podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

I think it Parents After Dark or something.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

That sounds dirty though.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Yeah, that sounds a little too inappropriate.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Never inappropriate, but I mean, listen, it's gonna be something like that because he's a fighter tonight.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

It's 1148. I just want to get this out there because I I want to try and keep it weekly.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

So consistent?

SPEAKER_02 1:03

It's important, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Yeah, consistency is key.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Otherwise, what do you have? Because then you'll forget what you talk about and stuff. It's not, it's it's never good. So, um, again, thank everybody for reaching out. I've had a lot of cool messages, a lot of nice people say hi and uh just spread the word. We're gonna start having guests very soon.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

So crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

I know, right?

unknown 1:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

It will be nice to talk about somebody else but ourselves. I think that's the hardest part.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Talking to you about us. It's like therapy, but except there's no one mediating this.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

I mean, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

You don't feel it's that way? You don't feel it's therapeutic in a way?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Yeah, but I mean, I don't think it's like therapy for us, like couples counseling. I think it's more of us just getting, you know, our experience out there and unloading a bit about that, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

But I take every transcript and I read through it and go, hmm, Shannon was wrong here. I was right here.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

I'm sure you do. I'm sure you keep a count in your head about you know, whatever you're right and I'm wrong, and whenever Carson wants you over me, which it's I don't know, it's not very often.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

My mom over you.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

It's it's often.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Well, maybe recently. I mean, unless it he really only wants you when he at bedtime, and if he wants to go drive in the truck or go somewhere fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

So all the cool things.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

I guess, but like the comfort and when he's like hurt or sick, he always wants me. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

It's not true. I'm like, I'm I have to be a father. I'm hard on him. Like, let's go, you're fine. Get up, put some dirt on it.

unknown 2:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

That's how it goes.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

So you have to be a little tougher with him. You gotta you gotta you gotta write it out. You know, he's gotta he's gotta understand that uh, you know, dad's there to take care of business and stuff and shoe off all the naysayers.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

You say so.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

I I say so. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

That's true. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

So how's your uh how's your social life since you've had a had a kid that uh is is constant need? How's that how's it going these days?

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Uh I mean, it's I guess it's going.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

How's the dating world treating you? Is it good?

SPEAKER_00 3:18

The dating world?

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

No, I haven't been in the dating world in a long time. Actually, I never even think I entered the dating world.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Oh, well.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Imagine having an autistic kid that you needed consistent care of.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Like if we got divorced and we had to go back out there.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Would you like put that on your profile? Like I'm a mom first or something.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

I honestly wouldn't date.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

What?

SPEAKER_00 3:37

No.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Yes, you would.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

I would not. I would be completely content with being single.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Listen, I'm 10 steps away from a body of a young Brad Pitt, so just like five setups away. Five steps away. Maybe a push-up. It's on the horizon. That's all there is. Yeah. It's almost there.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

I don't think you want to do that. That's uh that's tread in some scary water there, you know?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Yeah, I don't want to do that. You're right.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

So would you would so you I don't know where I was going with that?

SPEAKER_00 4:08

No, just I already can tell, just don't finish with that thought.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Okay. Well, I'm just saying, like, I I I don't know. It's it's it would be hard enough um going to meet somebody who's like not used to this or used to a kid that constantly bangs on walls and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

And I guess. But that's something we don't have to worry about, right?

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Sure. If you keep looking at your phone, you might have to start worried about it. What's going on over there?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

I don't know. It's like a nervous thing, I think.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Want some by my nightcap?

SPEAKER_00 4:38

No, that'll just make me not feel good.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Make you make you feel really good.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

No, it wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Sure, it will. It's nighttime medicine.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

It would activate my acid reflux.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

I actually threw in like three of Carson's medications right in my drink just to see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Yeah, it's a cocktail. Well, so okay, so so what do you like to do for fun? What's a what's a fun night to Shannon? What's what do you what do you what is what is? I'm trying to understand like this, like what have you, what have you given up these days? Do you feel like you've given up? Like do you do you miss anything? Is it like there's something that you wish you can go do like on weeknights, like a bullying league or a softball league or something crazy?

SPEAKER_00 5:18

No, you know what is it's funny that when your sister came out here, she was out here for 12 days and she asked me, she goes, Don't remind me. She's like, uh, because she was, you know, hanging out with me all day. She's like, is there anything that you want to go do or you want to go see that you don't get to do, you know, with the kids? And I literally could not think of a single thing. I think I'm just like so used to living my life, I guess, for the kids and what they want to do. And you know, I couldn't think of a single thing I wanted to go do.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Not a single thing, no. Just rest in peace to your social life.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Nothing. Talk about it. Go ahead, please.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

No, I'm not gonna talk over this.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

It's it's just it's just background music, please. So anyways.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

No, you know me. I like I'm a homebody. I like to be at home. I like to read and you know, do puzzles and color.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

So you're saying nothing's changed.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Like there's there's no No, I mean, a lot has changed. I mean, we don't have No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

This isn't we right now. This is you.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

This is No, I'm saying we moved away, far away from everybody, so we don't have like on a boat somewhere far away. No, we didn't take a boat to get here. We we flew. You drove, I flew. True. Um no, but we don't have like our friends out here, our family. Um we just recently be made friends. So can you can we cut cut the music?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Why is it making you sad?

SPEAKER_00 6:41

No, it's just dumb. What have you given up?

SPEAKER_02 6:49

How do I tell you where to start? I mean, I've given up. I want to dance more. I want to I want to just be free. I've given up I've given up nothing. I I I literally I've started more hobbies than I've uh given up, I feel like. I'm always looking for something that's comfortable. Like, so I was doing this vinyl collection last year. That was the new thing that would just kind of keep me home and keep me kind of grounded. Um and it's been fun, but it's also been frustrating, and uh it made me learn that I can't spell as good as I thought I could. And alphabetically the alphabet's hard, okay? The English language is hard.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Like for alphabetizing your when you go to a record store and you can't find what you're looking for because it's put in a different like category.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

No, I think that's all a mess. Sometimes they do it by like first name of artists, and sometimes they do it last.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

I hate all of it, okay? It's a mess. So I'm doing a hobby that I hate and I'm spending money on something I hate, but I bought like visualizers for Carson. I have like two visualizers. I have one that like just they both play to sound, so like I I when Carson comes in here, he'll come in here and like he'll he'll just stare at one of the things and then come sit down with me. But of course, I play it too loud and then he runs away. So um I think that's one that I've kind of started, but giving up um playing music. I really, really um miss that sometimes. And I I know when I did that like farewell of my birthday show last year at that venue, like that was a hard one.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

It was almost two years ago, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Was that really two years? That was last year. Oh my god, we've been here a year.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

I no, because you're gonna be it's been two years, almost two years.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

I'm gonna choose to weed weed that year out of there. Um anyway, when when we play when I played that show, I was really upset that Carson wasn't there. That was the one thing that I missed. Um because I wanted to like play one more show and then have both my kids there, and uh Carson Carson wasn't there, and uh Carson wasn't there.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Um He would have not enjoyed that at all.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

I know, and that's what I'm trying to say. So like that's part of it that I give out. Like when I'm sitting here playing music or doing something like that, Carson. Whenever I'm doing something, Carson always wants to come in there and like get me out of the room, son of kind of thing. So it's not really a home thing that I can do. But remember what we were told at school that like that teacher that played guitar, they said that he liked it. So maybe that maybe they like her.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

He told us that he likes um I I don't want to say her name, but um, he liked when she played guitar, and I told Phil that and he like next day he got out his guitar and started playing for Carson, and he was not happy.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

He kept walking up and just putting his hand on my guitar to stop and then put it down.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

It's very particular, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Yeah, yeah. So guitar is one or instruments, it seems to be one. I would like to play music again, but I'm also getting older. I I can't do that anymore. I'm not gonna be like in a cover band or anything like that. You know? Um we go out now, like we so we so Shannon and I we always look for sitters, and that's that's a freaking challenge, because I'll tell you what, these guys everyone seems so nice, and we we interview them, and we do always we have like this this kind of um this this move where we're like we we do a phone interview, like a in-person, and then like a short date night, and then like a we'll do like a like the fourth one will be like a let's go for it kind of night, and then um we meet these people and they always seem to move away and just be gone, so like it's always hard to trust them.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

They're always busy, they have like other jobs that they're doing.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Yeah, they have lives, they actually have social lives.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, they're not just on our back and call.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

We can't watch your kid because we're gonna go out and do stuff, yeah. Go out and get my swerve on.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Remember when people used to say that, get your swerve on?

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Unfortunately, yeah. Um did you finish your thought?

SPEAKER_02 10:37

Well, my thought is that those date nights that we go out now, it seems like when we go out, it's like we I like when we go find like a like a a cool show to go watch, a nice dinner. I I hate going to clubs. That's not my scene.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Yeah, we're too old now.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

We went to one we went to one bar that was like they were we were the old youngest couple there, and then we went to another club that was like a we were the oldest couple there.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

So yeah, we're in that weird age right now.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

I'd like to be able to just build a bar outside or something, you know. Maybe become a bartender.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

At your own personal bar at your house? Yes. Yeah, that's like every night. Not every night, but like you know, like when you have drinks.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

I need an apology right now, please. No, that's that that that didn't happen. It's not every night.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

No, I just said not every night.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

No, you you didn't apologize though, see?

SPEAKER_00 11:30

I'm sorry. Um Yeah, I don't know. I just think that's just being a parent. You you know, you you lose your social life, everything's about your kids, and your friends have kids and they're busy with their lives, and you kind of just drift apart, and just the natural order of things, I think.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Yeah, but our situation, like going to people's houses with Carson, is uh it's a whole ordeal, is it not?

SPEAKER_00 11:53

I mean Yeah, like we've definitely kind of distanced ourselves in that situation because everyone is always like, Oh, we we don't care if he gets in everything, we don't care, and then you're gonna find out real quick that they do care when he breaks something or is playing in water, throwing rocks in their pool. He did that one time.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah, Carson always does the one thing he can't do. One thing he can't do every time, every every place we go to.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

We found a new like sensory gym, and then he he somehow out of all the rooms he can go into, he chose this one back room that it's like a trash door, just like a big square room with you know sensory swings and play things, like a trampoline ball pit, and then they have like one little um calming room that has lights off and has like little um projector lights, and then there's another room that has like little um, you know, like a playroom with like toys and books and all that, and then there's a door that's closed, and of course that's the one that he gravitates to and it goes to like this dirty back storage area. You could smell the trash coming out of that door, and he's he's always and it's not like I'm not paying attention to him. I'm you know, I have to hover over him all the time, but he always he knows how to create like a diversion, like he'll take the swing and he'll like swing it super high so then I have to catch it. And when I catch it, he's taken off to the room, and then he opens the door and gets in there before I even the one time you're on Facebook, right? Not even on my Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

The one time, it's so crazy.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

It's like every time you look yeah, he's just smart like that.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Yeah, he's he's playing you like a fiddle. Yeah, it's it that's that's but that's what he does. And you go to people's houses, and he's like running up the water bill. That's his new thing, too.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

I we've got to get him to like do the dishes or something like that. Like, how cool would that be to go to a party and like he's just over there just doing dishes for people? Yeah, like dude, you can play in the water, but you just have to like literally like wash all these dishes to play in the water. No. I mean he uses the soap, it's like it's pretty easy.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

He does like the sponge too.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

So okay, so we have all the all the ingredients are there. Tacos are at the table. You just kind of put them all together and then you just you serve them, you know?

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

You say, here's all the dishes in the sink. In order to play in the sink, you gotta wash all these dishes. Think about that.

unknown 14:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Think of all the house parties, like we have like this amazing kid who just wants to do dishes all the time.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

It's never gonna work that way though.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

How do you mean it's never gonna work?

unknown 14:15

No.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Until we invent once we invent a waterproof candle, it's over. Game is over.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Yeah, he does go through those pretty fast with the Actually, no, he doesn't. He's been pretty good about He used to. Yeah, he's been yeah, he used to drop them in the water all the time. But he's been good about keeping them away from water.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Yeah, he brings towels now and then he he brings the towel with him and then kind of dries it off like a kind of like I do with sweat, you know? Like you just kinda walk around with a towel.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

That's too much.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

It's true. I never actually I don't carry a sweat towel. I told you, I'm five sit-ups away. It's game over. I I we just gotta find we gotta find we gotta invent ways here. We gotta think of um different things to do, different things that we can do together. And I there is an element of being guilty about it, because like I feel like we will like once in a while we'll take we'll take our oldest son with us and then he gets to go places and Carson doesn't. Do you ever feel guilty about that?

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Um I in a way, but I also really go ahead, please. I also don't because I am always with Carson all the time, and I don't really get to spend a lot of one-on-one time with Nolan.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

So well with me?

SPEAKER_00 15:34

No, it's just it's nice to be able to have that time with him and you know, bond with him. I also think there's he does And you have that with him all the time.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Well, I do cool stuff.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Like I think you and Nolan do stuff together all the time.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

It's a sports thing. It's like he plays sports and I'm his dad. So of course that's the same. That's not the same thing as you know. When you tell him how to swing and then I tell him how to swing, it's a different, different element. I can't describe it. I'm sorry. It's just just the truth.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

He looks up to me. We eat, we, we, we go out places, we we talk talk about women, you know, we have a good time. We've never talked about women. It's too.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Yeah, I didn't believe you. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Music and sports though is constantly that's all it's about. It's all we talk about, is music and sports, really.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Yeah, he's a cool kid.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

He is a cool kid. But you mean again, like I there's been times where I'm like, you go and you don't want to go. Like that that newfound glory concert, you didn't want to go.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

No.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Why is that?

SPEAKER_00 16:26

I don't know. I like I'm like I said, I'm a homebody. I like to stay home with Carson. I like to hang out.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

You're just a glutton for punishment, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

No.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Do you look at it as punishment?

SPEAKER_00 16:35

No.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Do you look at like I have a better social life than you?

SPEAKER_00 16:40

No.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Truthful? Truth, truthies? Have I ever said truthies to you?

SPEAKER_00 16:46

No. Where do you come up with that at?

SPEAKER_02 16:47

I don't know. That might have been like the 19th century.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

I feel like we're getting off the rails here.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

We're not. I'm still talking about social lives. How bring me back in, bring me back in then.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

No, I thought we were more gonna talk more like about like Carson and taking him places and I brought that up.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

Please, what am I missing?

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Nothing. I think I was just more talking, thought we were gonna talk about like the fact that I wish we could take him more places and I didn't have to hover over him every single second.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Well that wasn't there yet. We're kind of just inching into it. We're just okay, please. You see what happens? No, no, now you want to continue now of a sudden you want to derail it, and then it's like I have an idea of like where I'm going with it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Maybe I'm just trying to make you get there faster.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

It hasn't even been that long. These cop these podcasts are supposed to go hours, and we don't even go that long. We go like we barely do like an hour. We barely and we did I think last one was like 25 minutes. See? You just you gotta I'm telling you, once you once you have a drink or two, you'll feel great.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

It's too late for that.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

It's never too late.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

It is too late for that.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Well, okay, so let's talk about when like we go to a pool, right? Like the pool that there, and then so like for instance, you know, I'll always be like, okay, like um, because like no one wants to go throw the football. And then you go with Carson, and then I try and switch with you. I'm always trying to switch with you. Always trying to switch with you. Well, like what so like how do you how that situation, do you feel like you're cornered? Do you feel like you're stuck doing that? I mean, do you do you like doing what you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Like, let's No, I of course I like spending time with my son. It's just um, you know, like when it's crowded and there's a lot of people there, I get overwhelmed. Like when he's trying to like I don't know, like play in like those little like hot tub nooks, and there's like people already sitting there and he's trying to like encourage on people's spaces, and I, you know, I'm trying to have him be respectful, and then it turns into like a meltdown because he wants to do the one thing that he can't again.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Not that he can't, but it's just crowded, where like when he's playing the splash area and minding his own business, and then all the kids come over and see him and try to mess with him because you know, I don't know, put their cars down there or move his bucket, and I just I think there's an element of and and this is what I've kind of learned over this is that there's an element of of being respectful and the same breath is like what is everybody else doing with their kids? It's like we can't be the only ones kind of like policing our kid when everyone else's kid is kind of going crazy. And again, obviously it that's not how we are. Like, I mean, I I always keep an eye on Nolan no matter what, I keep an eye on Carson no matter what. Um, I'm just saying, like, why can't they play and get into trouble and do stuff? Like, we always make it like like again, so what he's in the nook and he j he jumps in. Like, that's it's a pool. That's what they're supposed to do. Like, there's you know how many other kids come in there and jump in? Like, I've sat there before and been jumped on, like jumped on by a kid on accident. It's just happens. The kids are excited because it's a pool and it's hot outside, it's summer. Yeah, so I think we always we always take it for we always look at it as an excuse, not an excuse, but like look at it and say, Oh, he's autistic and he's it's like he doesn't know better when he does know better. You know what I mean? Or he just he's just the same as as other kids in the sense of like they're all doing it. We just make our kid we make it a bigger problem that our kid does it.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Yeah, like I try to teach him like boundaries and um I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

That's his whole day is boundaries. His whole day is like you get structured time and uh don't do it. I already try to clap the kick to kill that gnat. You're not gonna get it.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

It's not a gnat, it's a mosquito, and I'm gonna get it.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Okay. It's gonna bite your face. But I just think that there's times where like he's supposed to make mistakes and he's supposed to be a kid, and he's supposed to have fun and like kind of have like no rules in a sense, you know what I mean? Like what I like Nolan, I mean no one for the most part, he knows what he can and can't do. I don't have to correct no one a lot of times. Correct is correct, yes. He knows what he can't do and he what will get him in trouble. Carson and Carson does too. Carson will always look back before he does it because he wants to see if you're watching, so he knows you're gonna be in trouble for it. Yeah, didn't they always say the second child is always the hardest?

SPEAKER_00 21:06

You know, they do say that, but I was a second child and I was not you're the worst, yeah. Yeah, no, my sister was a good one.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

No, I wasn't easy, I was easy as a a child. Uh-huh. Teenager is a little different.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

I was a colic, yeah. Let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

That only lasted like three months. Please. And then I was like the perfect baby, perfect child, angel.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Mm-hmm. Never went to school, you know, all the fun stuff.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Why are why why is this talking why are we talking about me now all of a sudden?

SPEAKER_02 21:34

I'm just bringing you listen. Keeping it real, real talk. Hashtag it. I just I wish I wish sometimes like you would see that where like, and I think that's where it comes because like when I go to do it, and then I think he trusts me more of like I really only pull him out when there's like there's like danger or like I know, like, okay, this is too much. And then it's like, so I'll stop him there. So then there's always that give and take where like if I'm at the pool with him. And he's doing something like he goes to that pool that you can't splash at, which is my favorite pool to go to. Like I let him splash, and then like, you know, and the last time you were there.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

Everyone splashes in there. So I don't know why we've got that. They try to make it like the adult pool, but it's like it's they don't say that kids can't go in there.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Shannon yelled at the live cord last time we were there.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

I did get a little snippy with him.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

He's autistic. Or would you would you what did you say? Were you saying he's non-verbal?

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Yeah, I said he's non-verbal, autistic. I said he doesn't understand what you're saying to him because he's literally like blowing his whistle and yelling at Carson and like sh wagging his finger back and forth. No splashing. I was like, he's not even looking at you. He doesn't know what no splashing means. Like you gotta like give him some rest. He's like, oh, okay. And then you came over and then he was like kissing your ass.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Listen, I told you I'm a good looking guy. He just came over. He's like, Oh, look at this dude. Look at this bro.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

No, I was just it's not that he, I mean he was doing his job, but I was just like, I don't know. I think I was just irritated at that point because we were dealing, I think he already got in trouble for something else, or there was and by the way, there was not a single person in that pool when he was in there. Not a single person.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

That was the best part.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

He was just trying to like enforce, like uh, you know, he was like a young kid, so like he gets like a little bit of authority, and like, yeah, I'm gonna tell you if if the parents there, like clear as day, like maybe tell the parent, don't tell the kid. I don't know. Like I it's it's it's a weird thing, but I I think for the most part, we've we've had a lot of better luck out here than we've had in California, but yeah, um, I yeah, I just I think that I I and again, I'm not trying to like brag on like that. It's just I I know what you said.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

You said that you get more overstimulated sometimes than he does, and then so yeah, I think it's just because like even when I was little and I would see like my peers like playing rowdy or like being disrespectful on like the playground or in school, it would like bother me. Like, I don't know, I'm a rule follower, I like rules, and so you know, I have to like as a parent, you kind of have to like sit back and be like, Well, is this you know, really do you really need to enforce this rule right now, right here?

SPEAKER_02 23:55

And especially with Carson, because you know, he doesn't you gotta think on the fly, and it's it I think I think you gotta you gotta play it by ear. And I I just I that that's where I feel I have a really good connection with Carson because like I said, I I can always sense the meltdowns way ahead of it before you can. And again, I'm not again not bragging. But you don't it's not true though.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

It is true, it's not I I don't believe that's true.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

I you feel like you don't think there's like a connection with like like a like a brain-to-brain connection or something like that? That's like there.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

I've always told you I felt like me and Carson had like an empathic connection. So I'm not saying you don't want to be. No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

I said I sense the meltdowns better than you.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

I don't agree.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

So you see him way so like when I tell you, hey, he's gonna have a meltdown, you just I already know what's on the horizon.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

I already know.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

So you're just choosing to ignore it then? You're just no I I whatever. I I'm just trying to say, like, I I when we're at the pool, especially, like I I think the demeanor kind of makes a difference. So like if you're going there and I'm like obviously maybe I've had a couple drinks, I mean no big deal, and we're walking in the pool, I I'm less more carefree. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

I'm more carefree about it, maybe because you're more carefree in in those situations.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

But but I'm also but I'm also right by his side and then doing like trying to play with him and get him out of the stuff that he's doing, so like it'll be different. And I you do the same thing. I see you like trying to pick him up and you know play in the pool and pull him around and stuff like that. But there's times where like he can just get stuck on it, like he'll bring his bucket and he wants to pour the the like he wants to fill the other pool with the bucket, which is the funniest thing. So like I you know, I I'll give him a little bit of slack at that. I don't I don't know. Like every kid plays different.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Yeah, but there's like like you said, he gets stuck on things like moving aside from the pool when we went to that brewery one day, and you thought it would be a good idea to bring his bucket for the dirt, and he fixated on that one square of dirt under the overhang in the middle of all of the picnic tables where people were eating.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Hang on, that that whole that whole area had the dirt, it wasn't just the one square.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

No, yes, but he wanted to play in that one specific square. I even tried to like redirect him to a side where nobody was sitting. Um, but he wanted to play in that specific spot and he kept putting the dirt in his bucket, which is fine, but then he would dump the bucket and then the dirt would just fly up in like a cloud and like went to the towards the picnic tables where people were sitting and eating and drinking. Um so yeah, we tried to like you know, redirect him. It was like a whole field of dirt, like he could have played anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

You know what I remember about that the most?

SPEAKER_00 26:37

So fixated on that one spot. What?

SPEAKER_02 26:41

I mean I remember the one there there was a guy that was sitting there watching me when Carson just went limp, and like I was picking him up and he had like the biggest smile on his face, like he thought Carson was throwing a tantrum.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

And I was staring right at his face, and I was like, I'm just gonna fucking lose my mind on this guy. And I was like, no, that's not again, it's not his fault.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

I mean, if I No, people think that like he's being a brat and we don't have control over him, but it's you know, that's not really the case.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Yeah, it was it was that was the only thing I remember about that. But I and again, I was at that brewery before, and I just remember there being dirt everywhere. So I thought, hey, it'd be pretty cool if we brought this bucket for Carson to plant dirt. I didn't know that that dirt this is.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

No, like sometimes those ideas backfire on us, and we just You're trying to say it's my fault? No, I'm not. I'm saying I've had plenty of situations where I thought, oh, this would be a good idea, and it didn't work out. Situations. No. Anyways. It took us like how long would you say to actually redirect?

SPEAKER_02 27:36

That was quick. That wasn't that long because what's it?

SPEAKER_00 27:38

He did throw a pretty solid meltdown.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

It's because he well, the thing is we we didn't find the next thing. So we picked him, I picked him up, and like he went limp, and I literally grabbed his arm and like he hung, and then I like, nope, put his feet down, and we walked him to the wagon, and he thought he was in trouble. And then so and then you went you went to the and then you went to the park, you didn't want to go to the park, and you came back and he tried to go again.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

And I was like, I'm just gonna walk around, and then we went to that wooden stage platform.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Well, they have like baptisms and shit on there.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

There nothing was out there, it was just some kids were on it playing, had like stairs and a ramp to get up there. So then he was on there and took dirt from the ground and brought it up the ramp and put it on top and had a funnel time for like almost like an hour, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Yeah. I I I I I just ordered my first beer and then it was time to go because he wanted the bathrooms, were of course the other the the way towards the dirt. There was no bathrooms on that side. So uh when we went back and we're like, okay, well, let's just I said let's just I ordered food too, so uh let's just get the food to go and we'll eat it in the truck and then or eat it at the truck where like he can just play in the truck and then he was happy about that. So yeah. We did something the day before too. So like we we that was one of our weekend adventures.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

So yeah, and I mean those instances are so few and far between now.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

It's not the same as it was because that would that would have been a two-hour debacle. Yeah, like when we went to that uh that that Christmas place in in uh what was that place called in uh College Town?

SPEAKER_00 29:06

College college station, college station, Santa's Wonderland or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah, that was the worst. Um, that was the last time I remember him having like a big meltdown because there was a lot of stuff for him to do, but again, we try and keep in front of him and try and watch what he does. So we first get there, I heard that there was snow to play in. I'm like, this would be really cool. So we take Carson to the snow, and of course, I mean it's basically ice, it was ice, it was a it was a think about it, and of course he climbs up it and he doesn't have anything like stable under his feet. He's wearing like Nikes that have like no traction. Yeah, he's slipping and falling, but he's still happy to get up there, and you know, Shannon gets up there. That was in my heavier days. I couldn't get up there.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

That that's the funny thing is, uh I brought not did I bring snow boots? No, I think I brought my rain boots, like something with traction. But then Phil brought boots, I think, and we're like, oh, we're not gonna need them because we didn't even see the snow area. Yeah, and then so I'm up there with Converse, trying to, you know, keep him stable on the ice hill, and while not trying not to slip myself.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Yeah. And then we got him out of that because I heard that there was like a like a jumpy thing over there.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

No, what had happened was on the other side of this little ice hill, there was like a little fence, and then on the other side it was like a little sled ride for like little kids, like toddlers, and they were like all sit in a little tube, and it was like kind of like a carousel, like a tube, and it would go around and round. So he hopped the fence and was trying to run that way. And I grabbed him by the hood and pulled him back over the fence, and we were like, okay, now we're done. So that's when we got him out of that situation.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

The best part is that Christmas photo that we took, or that we made a Christmas card. It's do you see my hand holding his hood?

SPEAKER_00 30:50

It's a convenient little like leash. Hey, you're getting too far.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

But again, he can't be the only kid that's hopped that fence before. No, but it just always seems to be like we the ones that see it. I I didn't see anyone else do it besides him, but he definitely it was so easy to do. It's like, of course he's gonna do it there and jump the line and then get in there and later do. So we go there and then we kind of move around and we look at lights, and um, and then we find that that jumpy thing, and of course, he's instantly in. And then Carson's doing great at the jumpy thing, he's super happy and regul and he's regulated, and then all of a sudden, he has to take his socks off, and then it's a tri struggle to get through to the to the front to get it, get him to pull him back on and put his socks on. And then he just wanted to strip down and get out of his clothes, and uh I mean, so I'm like, okay, let's get him out of there. And then Shannon and Nolan wanted to go ride the uh the inner two, like the the sled hill, yeah. Which is across the park with all this loud noise and stuff. So we get we get all the stuff, and then we actually have Carson take a picture, which is pretty cool. But he I told Carson was kind of like he wanted to go. I'm like, hey, bud, we'll go back to the jumping thing if you just wait for mom and Nolan. And then he'd actually just like snapped out of it and waited. It was really kind of cool. We walk and then we walk all the way back, we get our picture.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

Yeah, I don't think it took us that long to get in the line. I think it was like maybe 20 minutes from the beginning of the line to the end of the round.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

20 minutes of waiting for him is tough. Yeah, but it's tough for me.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Yeah, so we went back to the jumpy and then played there for a while.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

And then he started taking socks off again?

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Yeah, and it the socks wasn't a big deal. It was the fact that he tried to take his pants off multiple times. So that was the problem.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Yeah, and then yeah, so and then we can only have no one go over there and get him so many times, and then put him back in the car, and that's when the meltdown started. So he thought he was just gonna go for a ride again and get to come back. So I said to Shannon, okay, you take Nolan to the to the sled again, go one more time, and then I'll go to the truck. And then I go to the truck, and he's perfectly fine. He's waiting in the truck. I'm giving him some like more food.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Well, I think you had waited for us for a while before he went to the truck. Because no, you waited at for us for a while, and then I said, Well, this line looks a little bit longer than it was last time. Not knowing it was like way longer. It took us like I think almost exactly an hour to get through that line.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

And then by like the hour, he's like really broke down because he wanted to get out again. Like, I already put the car, I already put the the the wagon away, all of his clothes were off basically. Well, his pants and stuff like that were on, but he was handing me his shoes, he was really melting down, and then I sat there, and then I don't think they got to the truck for another like 30 minutes after that, and then he was in full-blown meltdown, and then we once we pull out of the out of the thing, it was just a like a good 45-minute ride of like him headbanging and crazy stuff like that. Again, it wasn't severe like it used to be, but it was definitely like he was definitely like saying, like, I want to go back and that's not fair, and all this stuff. So um Yeah. I just put on his favorite Montley Cruise City and we started driving.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Not true.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

It was uh it was it was a long baby baby bum, little baby bum. Yeah, we didn't take his Kindle away. Yeah, because he wasn't he wasn't listening, and then he was just hysterical. Um that was rough, and then it's like he it's like he feels like he's being punished when like really he's just trying to regulate. Like Warren G.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Um yeah so those are those are the things, and then it's like we always have to constantly have someone on Carson and you know I'm a social butterfly, everyone wants to hang out with me and you know do shots and stuff, and then Shannon's always like, well, I'll just hang with Carson and then you know I gotta put on a show for everybody. Yeah, I literally have to always go to Shannon and go just just walk away and I'll take care of it. And then I give her her time and then you know I catch her reading a book somewhere or something like that. Nerd.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

That's only if we're at home.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

That's no. I don't know. So I I I think it's just it's just we gotta do more stuff. I think that the last three weeks or maybe even longer than that, the weekend adventures have been have been terrific.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Um yeah, it helps keep him regulated and also I guess bored at home. You think he gets bored? You think that's why he gets into like no? I I think he well, I think he's he sensory seeks, so I think that'cause he he's real heavy on slamming doors and um slam his face in the door if he keeps doing it. Yeah, and he's he started to close the door and then kick the bottom so that the door kind of comes out past the frame.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Yeah, I'm waiting for that. That'll be a fun.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

No, that's happened a couple times where I've had to like really jiggle the handle to be able to push it back through, anyways. And then he is big on water, playing in the sink with the soapy water. But since it's been nice out, he's been taking the water and bringing it outside, which is nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Um he sits in his his freaking thing like a birdbath. Like that was kind of weird. His sand table. That bothered the hell out of me. He came in the house and like it was all dirty and just sits on the couch. Oh da da.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Hey, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

I I just we again I can't wait for summer because when the pools are it's not even it's this is Texas, it's supposed to be hot every day. And this is we I think by last year we were already in the pool, I think, consistently. Were we not?

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Um I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

I think so. I said we we got we went pretty early. We were like the earliest ones there because there was not many people there. It was definitely cold, but we were used to kind of the cold before. So I think more swimming's gonna help this. I think this year, and uh doing more things. And I I would like to try and do more stuff with him. Like it's stuff that like is outside of his comfort zone. Um I'd love to be able to find live music somewhere that like we can take him to and kind of sit far away so he can watch it. I think that'd be really cool.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

That's uh you think you would enjoy that though?

SPEAKER_02 36:40

As long as I'm not playing guitar, sure. I think I think he would. I think if we found like a festival that you can kind of sit in the back and like you know, just kind of just people watch a little bit with his with his baby bum.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

I think he'd I think he'd he'd rock that maybe, but I think you just want him to want like that so that no if he doesn't like it, I wouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

I mean, we took Nolan to uh I think he was like two, he went to like a Kenny Chesney concert and he would like he would he didn't like it, it was too loud, remember? And we sat in the back and we got pizza and we had a fucking ball back there. Remember the guy was mad because I was mad at the guy because like we walked there, he's like, Oh, we don't we're not selling more pizza, and I was like, What? And he's like, and he got he saw me like maybe I was just hungry and he gives me like 10 pizzas and just slams them in front of me. And then me you and Kyle took him in the back and we had like a pizza party back there.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

We just dancing and listening to music. It was great. We weren't even like we were like enough where the sound was muted, but still good. I it was one of my favorite concerts that I'm ever going to.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Was it the three of us with Nolan?

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Or was no, it was Me, you Kyle. Yeah, and uh Nolan.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

That was it, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:44

That was it. We stayed at that crummy hotel. Yeah, and then we went to that bar, I forget the name of it, it's like a dirty name.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Um, that's right. You and Kyle went to What's the name of that bar? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

It's in Lake Tahoe. Anyway. I I think that's uh I I just want to I want to be able to go places where he's not gonna elope, and I want him to be comfortable and I want him to be that's the thing, you know. Do we just invest in one of the invest in one of those vests? Like those vests with like a leash on it, and then we just noticed we've made it this far without it.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

We don't need to start doing it now at almost seven years old. Sure we do. No. I think we're good.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

Would you be comfortable if like he was just strapped to your hip like that and you just can't run away? No, wouldn't like it?

SPEAKER_00 38:27

No. I think we I think he's do he's gotten a lot better than he used to be, and he has, you know, his wagon for a safe space.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

I mean, it's kind of you know speaking of loping, fucking Mackie ran away today, which is kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

He didn't run away.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Sure he did.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

He got out while we were um Phil was taking the boys out on an outing, so that's no, he froze in the porch.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

I told him to go back inside, and then he he started getting the the the feet going.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Like can I set up the story?

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Please. I'm sorry. Is there a gas station between now and the other story?

SPEAKER_00 38:59

No. So we were getting the boys loaded up into the truck. Phil was taking them in on outing, and I left the door open and Mackie got out. And whenever he goes out to go for a ride, he kind of does like this ring around the rosy thing where he goes around the car. So you kind of have to leave like open the door and leave it and kind of go on the other side so that he'll go into the car. But um, he wasn't going, so we kind of had to chase him around the car for a little bit, which yeah. He didn't have a collar on either, so I kind of had to like catch him by the scruff of his neck, which I didn't like doing that.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

But you know, that's what his mother used to do to him. You grab him by the neck like that and carry around. Well, I think uh that's our goal. So we have a whole weekend of activities. We got some friends coming into town. Yep. And then uh Shannon's birthday, birthday, birth yay.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

So we'll have some fun and we'll make sure we try and do more social things.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Um yeah, but I think we have they're here for four days. We have um something to do each day, and we picked out activities that they're her kids would enjoy and that Carson enjoys and can do, so it'll be fun.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Should we take bets on who has a meltdown first if it's like her kids or our kids? I'm gonna take odds on no one. I think no one's gonna have a meltdown in some of these places. You think he's not gonna have a meltdown, he's just not gonna want to do it.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Yeah, he's gonna have an attitude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

I don't know where he gets that from.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

You. All the way.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Um Mr. Personality type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

I think he'll be good.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

No, he shows out when there's guests here, like he's like Mr. Perfect Kid all of a sudden. He walks around like he's cocky and it's it's really funny.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

He's like everyone's big brother though, because all of our friends, their kids are younger.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Yeah. We were the first ones.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

And no one's like an old soul.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

He was really cool today with watching Carson. He did a really good job. He he was playing in that in that structure place where I lost Carson for 10 minutes, and he was he was chasing him around, and then Carson was laughing, and he'd go down the slide and run away laughing, and then no one was just chasing behind him, and then no one doesn't do that very often, so that was what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

No, but they don't play together very often, so it's it's it's cool to see them playing together.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

Yeah, it was a good night. Yeah, yeah. And I had no drinks tonight, so I'm kind of upset about that. But we'll get drinking now. I'm having a nightcap, and I'm almost done with it. So anything you want to say? Anything you want to add? Anything exciting? Anything social?

SPEAKER_00 41:24

Um, like just you know, friends coming in town doing some things, fun things were getting um that jumpy tomorrow. The combo jumpy with the water side. Carson loves it. We put it in our backyard and just play all day. What are you doing on your phone? Your phone's more important.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

No, I was just wounding some stuff up, so okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

Yeah, so we're about the jumpy for two days. I'll have a blast with that. Yeah. We're gonna go to the farm. They have a huge jumpy pillow that he likes there.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

Yeah. Not the one that's been in the sun for like 17 years because that one doesn't jump.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Well, that one we tried to go there last time, but it was still wet because it rained that even though.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

I feel like there was a homeless person sleeping on it, too. Like it just seemed like it seemed like you would have all that.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

No.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

It's yeah, there was one who was that girl like talking to you back in the middle of the day. There's a girl that just like pop up out of like the the the weeds and sort of talking about.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Yeah, she came out of the bushes and talked to me. No, she was there with kids.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

No, she wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

There was no she was. There was like two kids. They I think they were on the other side, they weren't jumping on it because it was wet. And then yeah, there was like, I don't know if it was her kids or grandkids, I don't remember how old she was, but yeah, she was there with the family. She wasn't just popped out of the woodworks behind the tree and started talking to me. She did. That's not what happened.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

You shouldn't do that with your kids, and then she, you know, no. And then walked away.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

No.

SPEAKER_02 42:50

I saw her disappear. I didn't see her.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

No, she told me about some program, remember?

SPEAKER_02 42:54

I don't remember that. No. A program?

SPEAKER_00 42:57

Like something for like I guess autistic children. I thought it was like maybe like a gym or something, and we asked somebody about it, and they said it was like a program where um like a housing thing. Remember?

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Oh, like you put them in like a like a clinic or something like that?

SPEAKER_00 43:17

No, like housing for people like when they adults for like autistic adults or disabled adults. She's like, You usually tell me about that. My kid's six.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Well, she wants you to plan for your like, yeah, when your kid can't live by himself, he has to live over in this place.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

I guess. Or maybe she thought it was something different.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

No, no, her to her credit, I do remember, she was just saying because a lot of things I've I've seen and read is that I do a lot of reading. Uh see and read out here is that when you turn 18, like the benefits, everything dries up. So, like, but you have to get you have to get years ahead of it. So I think that's where she was going with it. It just came across like, hey, you should get your kid in the clinic, like get it get started.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

No, she was like, You should check it out, it's a cool program. And I was like, Okay, so I that's I thought it was like a simple. sort of like sensory club or gym or like a place to take him to. I didn't know it was like whatever. But she was saying like um the person we asked about it, she was saying something else like they have like a store or something where they sell like crafts that they made or something. You don't remember that?

SPEAKER_02 44:17

No.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Okay, well forget it then. Like crack well like like I don't remember exactly what she was saying, but somewhere where they can go work. I don't know. Whatever. Anyways anyways the lady didn't crawl out of the woodworks. She was there with the family.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

I think she did. No all right well good stuff. I guess um I don't I I won't play I I I I uh I went to the studio this week to kind of remix that song a little bit and I took uh I took the the the the video of Carson playing piano and we like made it into the song like the intro song and stuff like that. So it sounds really it sounds really weird and crazy. Shout out Phil by the way uh from uh from how much studios I thought you were shouting out yourself.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

I was like oh okay I didn't shout out to you thanks for doing that well listen it was my idea but I thought you said something about Carson was on it. I thought you were gonna put like Carson was on it he's playing no I thought you because you said we were talking about vocals and I thought you were going to put in that video of him going bop bop bop bop you know what's funny is I made a joke about playing I I have a vocal track for him too but it was going so down the rabbit hole that I didn't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

So I thought I I'm like I'm like does this seem like I'm pandering like it's just like I'm putting probably it so I did he said no so you're saying yes so well I wasn't there so I don't really know what it was about.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

I'm just making fun of you a little bit the vibe the vibe was there.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

And again shout out James thank you happy 50th my friend cheers uh to you I gave you a post earlier just to just a thank you for all the songs and stuff and all the ideas and uh Shannon's Valentine's Day song which we're gonna switch to a happy birthday song now. I'm just gonna put birthday in there instead of Valentine's I'll put 10 seconds of that real quick yeah James did a little song for Shannon for Valentine's Day I'll do it really quick no Shannon Shannon gets really embarrassed really quick it's like anything personal or anything like anything that's that's that's uh too serious you won't do if it doesn't download fast I'll skip past it but uh here we go hey Shannon this is James this is a song for you for Valentine's Day from your husband Phil hope you like it happy's day from your husband I like that he titled it It's a winner that's my favorite part of that whole story um I'll save that personally for I'm just showing that we did it and then someone changed it happy birthday from your husband Phil so we'll just do it later uh with that being said um I think next time we talk we're gonna have a guest so we can share their stories and uh no more of this banter back and forth with me and Shannon. We'll argue about other people's problems not our own own sure sure whatever whatever I think it's late you're just kind of grumpy when you're tired. I think that's what it is. I'm ready for another drink you know now should I go to bed tired time I mean yeah we kind of have to get up early tomorrow. Yeah we do hear that little crash that what I'll tell you about later no I didn't hear it.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Alright well thanks guys appreciate it