The Fine Art of Delegation with Lisa Cramb

Do you ever feel like you're carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders?

In this special guest episode, Christine is joined by Lisa Cramb for an honest conversation about the art of delegation and why doing everything yourself isn't the badge of honour we've been taught to believe it is.

Together, they explore the mindset shifts that make asking for help easier, how to let go of perfectionism, and practical ways to share the mental load at home, in business, and in everyday life. You'll discover how creating systems, setting boundaries, and trusting others can free up your time, energy, and focus for the things that matter most.

If you're tired of feeling overwhelmed and ready to stop trying to do it all, this episode will give you the permission and practical tools to start letting go.

Because sometimes the smartest thing you can do is ask for help. 💜✨

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Hello and welcome back to this week's episode of Christine at Home the Podcast. Now today I am joined by an incredible guest to talk to you guys about something that so many of us struggle with, which is delegation. So at home and business, and in just an everyday life, so many of us carry the weight of doing everything ourselves. So let's dive in. Lisa, welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Hello, hello, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Now, for anyone in my audience who might not know you, can you just start off by telling us who you are, what you do for work?

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Yeah, of course. So I am Lisa, also known as Lisa Cram Coaching. And my um main aim is to help people move from overwhelm to ownership of their lives. And a lot of the people that I work with are predominantly women who are carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, and basically everything from work to family, relationships, finances, um, responsibilities, and the emotional load of everyone around them, basically. So through nervous system regulation, mindset coaching and practical tools, I help people create a little bit more calm in their life to feel a little bit lighter and to be able to do this for a longer period of time to make it more sustainable, just not a one and done.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yeah, absolutely. We have so many crossovers. You and I, we work for so many similar reasons, and the work we do is so important. So I'm excited to dive in with you all about delegation. Um, so I guess my first question would be like, what do you think feel are the most important things to start delegating and why and what areas should we really start to think about delegation?

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Um so I think this can be a personal point, depending on where you are feeling that there's maybe a struggle going on. Um, but I think delegation for a lot of people, a lot of people think that it's about doing more. And this is something that I wanted to kind of highlight before we even get into the guts of this conversation, because I think delegation is all about getting your life back on track. Um and if it's done well, it'll create space. So it can be applied to any area of your life. And I think the reason that I say it creates space because a lot of us struggle with um having time to ourselves, so it creates space to rest, um, creates space for our relationships, excuse me, to actually enjoy life. Um and delegation isn't just about the doing. So we could choose different areas, everyone's will be different, um, but I think it's about it's not just about the tasks that need doing, like i.e. the physical things that we probably know that we should do. Um of course you've got your household chores, and just you know, there's there's lots of things to do. Um, but sometimes it just even includes like decision making, like actually making a decision, um, admin, getting the calendar out, planning, you know, um things like that. So I think that that would be where to start is looking at what's going on in your life or where is the biggest struggle really?

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

And to call in help in those areas, right? Yeah, absolutely. To do that by probably being able to ask for help, say no to certain things, you know. That's probably one of the biggest things that we struggle with. I don't know if you're like me or anyone listening is like this, but one of the hardest things to do is to say no, even when every bone in your body is screaming, like, say no, but then you go, Yeah, sure, no problem. Um, so and and just planning, making a list, like just physically writing a list, because sometimes we carry so much up in our heads that then we, you know, there's too much going on that you procrastinate and you don't do anything.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Yeah, 100%. It's that mental load, isn't it, to try and offload some of that stuff? And that's why delegation is so important for sure. And so just to echo what you've already said there, what do you find stops most people from delegating properly, whether it be their mindset boundaries, like what do you think it is that that people don't ask for help? Why do we find it so hard to ask for help?

SPEAKER_00 4:36

I know I think this is such a British thing, isn't there? Um I I think personally this can be split into two levels. So we've got the practical level and we've got an emotional level. So the practical level is often the lack of the systems or the clarity about what we're really needing to um delegate. But then the kind of second layer of this is the emotional layer where, and this is where things get interesting because I don't know again if you can resonate with this, but we'll say things like, if I do it, I'll do it quicker, or I, you know, no one will do it as good as me, and I'll do it just the way I like it. Um, I don't want to bother anyone, like or or putting the pressure on yourself, like I should be able to do this. Um, but what in that emotional layer or level is often something that we overlook and we don't want to actually look at is control, um, perfectionism, the people pleasing, um the fear of disappointment. You know, there's this emotional level that we don't ever want to really dig into it. But this is when we unearth this and we start really noticing what's going on, then that first level of the physical actually moves a bit a bit more. Um, so sometimes like some the person who does everything, it almost becomes part of our identity, and when we're not doing everything for everyone, then we we kind of struggle and think, I don't know who we are. So actually, sometimes we don't delegate because we're actually thriving on this identity of ourself, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

And it's this thing I see women do all the time where they take all this pride in doing everything, like as if if they didn't, you know, bake their birthday cake, if they didn't do the things, it's like shameful for some women. Like they really glamorize being, you know, super woman, or I'm doing everything, I can do it all. And actually, is that is that what we're trying to go for? I don't know. I don't know if that makes you a better mum, I don't know if that makes you a better woman wife, if you are the one physically doing everything. And you're just yeah, I don't think that's what we should be striving towards personally. Um, and that's where delegation doesn't need to be so taboo, like people are embarrassed or ashamed to admit they've got a cleaner, they've got help with this, or that their mum helps some of the kids, or it's this sort of I think people have these face-offs of, oh no, I do that, I do that, and as if that's the better option, but it's not the only option, is it?

SPEAKER_00 7:18

No, but and that's what creates burnout, that's what creates overwhelm, that's what creates stress, everything that probably everyone's resonating with, going, oh my gosh, but like you've just said, it's like a double-edged sword. We want to do everything and have the credibility for it all, but then the other side of it is we're resentful to our partners because they never help. We, you know, we compare ourselves to other people looking like they've got you know all their ducks in a row when actually everyone's in the same position. But I think so many women have been conditioned to see self-sacrifice as something to be proud of, just what you said. It's glamorized, isn't it? Yeah, it's a badge of honour to be like I'm the woman that can do it all, but then when we're all honest with each other and we all maybe after a glass of wine, it comes out like, Oh, I'm not coping with this, or I'm not doing it. So normalizing, and obviously the purpose for you hosting this conversation is to say, like, I don't believe that anyone can do it all. Yeah, and if they can, really, really fully admitting it, and they are doing it, I salute you, but I also don't think it's something that we should be striving to be, because there's a there is a it's a cause and effect, isn't it? There's going to be something if you're doing it all. But then my question, being a mindset coach, would be why.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Yeah, why? Yeah. It's almost like they're sort of protecting themselves in a way, isn't it? Handling it, having control over it, and they feel like loot letting go of control, it's out of their hands, and then that feels unsafe for some people, isn't it? So it's sort of trying to understand that you can have more if you get more help. Like you can still get the outcomes you want, you can do things better when you handle areas off to other people for help, and that can be in so many ways, can't it? With family, like your your network, paying for services, pay like you know, paying for like fair exchange of value, like they were getting that done for you to buy you back your time or your energy and or your focus, like you say, that mental load is just too much for any one person. I feel like anyone who's been really successful in life admits I'm not doing it all by myself. They have help, and then they get they get to have a better quality of life at the end of the day, and that's what we should be going towards, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

So, what is delegation costing us when we don't do it enough? That's one way to put it.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Yeah, this is I guess this is where like you can get a bit juicy with this, isn't it? Because the cost isn't the task of doing all the laundry and doing all the appointments and all that. The cost of this is stress, the cost of this is resentment, it's snapping at the people you love, it's missing out on times with your kids because you're not present, it's the lying awake at 3 a.m. with the mental load of tomorrow looming already, and you've had this broken sleep, um it's burnout, really. I think it it comes to a head. Um, and it's often, do you know what I think this question, like gosh, that I could go on with this, but do you know the biggest thing that I see and that I see often is the losing the connection with not only the people that you love but with yourself because you're constantly responding to everyone else's needs, and then I think depending on where you are in life, whether you're in your 30s, your forties, your fifties, I think predominantly women in this do get to a point where maybe their kids are getting a bit more independent and they are doing things for themselves, but because you've lost that sense of self whilst accommodating everyone else's needs, I think that's where women struggle because they they just don't even know who they are and what they like, and choosing what's for dinner becomes almost such a huge task. Um and I think what I've noticed with a lot of the women that I speak to and I work with is like you don't need another hack, like we need systems which we love, we do, but we need permission to put some of this weight down, and I think this is where we're costing our own lives, our own sanity, our own mental health. And I also think at this age, and I've been guilty of it myself, which you know you would find funny because doing the job that we do, but I think what a lot of us women put it down to is hormones. Oh, my hormones are playing a trick on me when actually the mental stress that we're putting ourselves under is costing us all of this without admitting it. So I think all in all, it's it's a lot of things that's costing us if we're not delegate.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

And if we're so busied being the one that's doing all the things, like you say, we're missing out on the moments of real life, just to you know, kind of echo what you're saying there. Like it what just came to mind there is you know, I've recently been in Florida, the most amazing family time ever. And because I'm so into this work that we do, you know, you view things differently, don't you, when you go out into the world. And I was so present with my daughter and my partner, and we made all the magical moments, and the magical moments aren't like stand at the castle, um, stop itching your nose, stand up straight, shouting at your kids to get that perfect photo. It's like actually captured in the real life. And I was so aware of this in Florida, watching families, you know, in the most magical place on earth, too bothered about their matching outfits to shouting at their kids, essentially. And it's it's so crazy what we do. We're so busy sometimes and you know, to get the house clean for visitors to come, but you've just gone crazy at your whole family trying to get the house sorted, it just defeats the point, doesn't it? Whereas if you can offload some of this into delegation, it means that you can be in the here and now. Like honestly, thinking about Florida, these mothers shouting at their kids to smile for the camera, it just makes me laugh. I'm like trying to secretly take photos of Jamie, capturing the reality of it is so much more uh real, isn't it? And important.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

And I think as well, I mean that filters on then to your kids because they're not getting the carefree, you know, taking everything in. They're getting this, you know, exactly what you're saying, the Instagrammable picture to paint a thousand lies to show your 200 followers that you're living your best life, when actually, like, you know, it's the stress of trying to conform, going back to what we've just spoken about, showing that we can do it all, that we can have it all, that we can be it all, and in actual fact, thinking that's just cost me a fortune. I am so stressed that I didn't enjoy it. Whereas when we let this down in the delegation of hick the load of being shared before you go, like whether it's organizing outfits or whatever that looks like, but actually that's not been then a massive stress. So when you get to the scene on the plane, that you can actually enjoy your gin and tonic or your coffee and you can be there. But yeah, I think that's the biggest thing, isn't it? If we don't delegate, we are just in a cycle, a loop of like stress and burnout.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

And and what comes with that as well is you can prioritize your time when you delegate things to do the self-care, the self-work, the inner work, working with a coach like you or I, and just putting yourself fill first, fill in your own cup, because then that pours outward into the people around you so much, doesn't it? And just for you, you know, going in a massage, like it was my I had a big event two weekends last weekend, um, and the week running up to that huge event I hosted was I booked a Thai massage because it's like you've got to look after yourself, and yeah, I I've got a cleaner in the house doing her thing, I've delegated, you know, I've not spent hours doing that. You know, it's not just cleaners that we delegate, we there's so many aspects of life, and I have employees to delegate to. There's so many, you know, I have things on subscription, which is a delegation, because I, you know, I have a milkman in 2026 because one, it just makes me feel bougie that I get a little glass bottle of milk on the doorstep. But you know, I I'm sick of forgetting milk in the shop. So it's just like what can we delegate? It can be from as small as a a pint of milk, you know, to as big as I don't know, get an annie.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

Yeah, no, anything, you know, anything that can help make your life easier, I think. Whatever that looks like to some, it could be, I don't know, getting your kids picked up at the school one day a week with someone, or you, you know, delegating to someone in your workplace to do something that if you really don't enjoy doing something now, there's obviously going to be tasks that we don't enjoy, but we have to do it. It's a non-negotiable. We would all probably not want to take the bins out or something, but someone might enjoy that. But I think it's about do I need to do this or can someone else help me here?

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Like it's something, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Another example that just came to mind there is when I was a single mum with my little one since she was seven months old. I think I've spoken to you about this before, Lisa, when I was on the phone as counsellor, because I was so stressed and overwhelmed, and there was just a lot going on when my little one was very small. And she said, Well, why don't you put her into nursery just one day a week? Because I I couldn't put her down, I couldn't do anything. I was really, I was really drowning in early motherhood. And I said, Oh no, because I don't work on a Friday, like what she was saying, I don't need the childcare on a Friday, I don't work on the Friday. And it took for this um counselor to tell me, but Christine, you can have a hot cup of tea, you can, you're not cheating on life, you're not, and it's like it sounds so obvious now, but at that time it made me cry. She was like, Yeah, you can just go home and watch Louis Women if you want and have her in nursery. That's okay. And then, as I've said to you before, once once I did, I decided I'm putting her in on a Friday morning. I dropped her at the door, had my gym stuff on, and I started getting to the gym. I did a sauna, I washed my hair for the weekend, and I had three hours at Banantine's and I went and got her once I finished like a new person. And it's just sometimes hearing it from someone else, isn't it? That delegation isn't so you can have somebody do something so you do something equally as like um, I don't know what the word would be like you don't need to do it just for work or just for doing something of equal measures, you can do it just to buy back time for anything else, and you don't need to feel guilty with that.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

And I think if you are a parent and you're a mum who is feeling the guilt of something like that, you filling your own cup up makes you a better person for the rest of your family. And it doesn't need to be for childcare instance. It could be that you, you know, you help out your family or grandparents or something. But we all know we get to that having that invisible mental load, which is so so heavy. No one else sees it because we don't share. Because again, we you know we don't want to shame ourselves by telling people that we're we're not coping. But it's the appointments, it's the birthday presents, it's the planning meals. I mean, meal planning for the week is the most boring job in the world, but it's something that we do, but it's knowing the school dates, it's knowing the hospital dates, it's keeping track of everyone else's needs. And I think this is what is hard, is because we've not been taught it, but we're talking about it, so we are, you know, we're opening this uh Pandora's box of conversation. Yeah, I think again, like you being able to take that time for yourself, and something that someone said to me when I was first being coached and it stuck with me. And I always ask any, you know, anyone that's in a situation like this as well is who is it that you are most worried about that is going to judge you for doing this? And nine times out of ten, it'll be someone who's not important in your life. It'll be it could be an ex-partner, it could be an old friend, it could be someone from school or college or a workplace. And it's if you were to be really honest with yourself, so if you're listening to this right now and oh, I would love to, but I just can't, whether that is child's care, whether that's dropping a day at work, whether that's asking for help, in whatever area, if you're struggling to do it and you're thinking, Oh, I just would love to, but I can't, I would love for you to sit with this question and think in your mind's eye, who right now is it whose face pops up into your head when you think you can't do it? Now, I know a lot of people say, Oh, it's not about a person, it's about the monetary side of it or whatever, you know. And I know that that's that's maybe not it. But do you know one of the things would be, even if it is about money, is someone gonna say, You shouldn't, yeah, you shouldn't be spending that on? So there's all I think it's always tied to someone. Sorry, that's a total side note, but it's very relevant.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Yeah, even the money thing, just as you touch on that, it's so it's so common that mindset, that wrong mindset of they'll go, I'm not spending that to get somebody in to help me because I could do it myself. Just because you could doesn't mean you should.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yeah, totally, totally. And the thing is, it could then create like I know a lot of people that have said, no, if I, you know, if I spend £40 on we're we're talking about a cleaner. It's £40 that I could, you know, what could put intowards a food shopper. You know, I can clean my own house or yeah, yeah, but that £40 might save you two hours, and you could be doing two hours extra in work that could earn you more than that. It could give you two hours extra with your kids, it could give you two hours extra on your own. You could be working towards a health and fitness goal. You could be two hours extra on your relationship that's struggling right now. So it's not always about a monetary thing, but again, we are very connected and tied to kind of poor money stories. So it's always about like what else could you maybe gain from like from yeah, what is it they say? You have to invest to um what's the saying? Someone will be screaming this. Uh speculate to accumulate.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Have to like spend a little to get a little bit back.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Um like you say, it's not always monetary value that you'll get back, but there is a wellness wheel which is all of value, not all monetary value, but but of equal measures, you know, like you said, working on a health and fitness target or something, or relationships, it's anything else on the wheel. Like pick your pick what's got a low number on your wellness wheel. And for those of you who don't know what we're talking about right now, maybe that's an an episode for another week. We could definitely dive into that. But but yeah, it's not always I've got to make 15 quid because I've spent 15 quid. You can make it back by just being um more open to opportunity because you're in a better frame of mind, you know. Yeah. So yeah. So talking about that, when it comes to business, yeah. How can you think about delegation that'll help you there?

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Um right, let's business business with delegation. Right. I think if you're in business right now and you need to delegate, maybe a question that you could ask yourself is what is the highest value use of your time? So most people are maybe spending hours doing £10 tasks whilst neglecting the £100 tasks. You know, they're posting invoices or they're answering emails or they're creating graphics or I don't know, doing admin or chasing paperwork. Meanwhile, you're not networking or selling or leading or building relationships with people, you're not developing a strategy. So a useful exercise would be to um write down everything you do in a week, then ask yourself does this require my expertise? Does it generate revenue? Could someone else do this 70, 80% as well as me? And if the answer is yes, then it's probably worth considering outsourcing or delegating because in your business right now, if you're trying to do everything, and I've been a victim of this because I like you know, everyone I like to, you know, know what's going on, but growth often happens when we're stopped trying to be the entire business. Like I first started coaching, I had so many VAs reach out to me, you know, wanting to do the background work on it. And I was a bit skeptical because I'm again I was in that old money mindset of, oh, but I've not, you know, I've not really earned a lot in my coaching business, so I can't really spend in it. But everyone knows in the first couple of years, you don't really make money in your first couple of years of business. But what you're needing to do is get the foundations right. If you build a house, you need solid foundations. If you build a business, you need the same. So even if you've been in your business for 15 years, you can still then go, right? Let's start again. Let's start this era of summer 26.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

And you go back to it right now, can't you? Like this moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah. And I think it is about going back to that question. Like, what is the highest value use of your time right now? Like, where can you make the most impact and where can you then delegate? Because let's face it, there's going to be some someone in your business that when I had my salon, um, I used to have two juniors that worked all the time. Now I was working five days a week in the salon, but I used to never take an appointment. They used to, one of the girls knew me so well that she just knew the way my brain would work. So she would be like, Oh, I know you can squeeze that one in in half an hour, but there's only a 20-minute gap. You know, like, can I? And so we used to work really well, but it was because I I allowed that to happen. So I allowed her to come into my world a little bit, and we ran like a dream. It was so good. You know, it I always think as well, she was always one step ahead of me. So she would like, I literally cut, blow-dried, styled, applied colour, but she done everything else, and I could then do more clients because she took the bills, she done the shampooing, she done everything. And actually, before I had her, um I didn't, I maybe didn't have as good as someone, but it was because I wasn't allowing them to do it. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't giving them enough of the the you know, I was giving them an an inch, but I needed to give them a mile in that. But I think that's how in business, if we start kind of dropping our shoulders a bit and giving a little bit more out, we're not holding on as tight in control. And I think the thing is as well, see if you are just wanting to do everything yourself, you're only going to be as big as one person, you know. Whereas if you're in a business and you've got it allows other people to grow in your business, it allows them to advance, and then you know, you create a legacy, you create, you know, you create a really well-oiled business. And I think as well, if you can't do that, it comes back to something deeper and it's a control issue in there. So it's there's always like I said earlier, there's two levels to everything. There's that kind of first level, and then you can go a little bit deeper, which again is for that's not maybe for today, but if you're sitting right now thinking, oh Alan really want to, but I can't, that's when you maybe are thinking, right, we need to explore this a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yeah, and I suppose for anybody who's listening, perking up their ears to this, thinking, Oh wow, I might try this, but I'm not ready. I just want to tell everybody listening that nobody feels ready when they start doing it. But it it's a doing thing. It's like once you start to do it, then you grow into it, you know. Um, so it's about doing things before you're ready, and and then the growth comes in that gap, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Oh, yeah, and it becomes a bit addictive as well. Because when you start seeing change in it, you're like, oh, this is what other people, you know, you sometimes see other people doing things and go, I wish that was me. And then you start noticing, oh, that is me. Like, I'm doing these things now, and then you're like, Oh, I want to do more.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Um and you get a new identity, you start upgrading your own mindset, your lifestyle, everything. Um, it just you become to grow so much with that. Um, so so yeah, that leads into my next question. How does delegation change the way that we view ourselves?

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Um, this is probably the deepest, the deepest question of all, isn't it? Um I guess because you you've just said it there, delegation isn't about the tasks, delegation is about identity. And I think more most or many people secretly believe that their value comes from being needed. Um I certainly this is something that I've uncovered myself, from being the helper, the fixer, the one who holds everything together. And delegation will ask us to trust, you know, to let go, to receive support, to believe that we are capable of doing things and getting a positive outcome, believing that our worth isn't measured by how much we do or how much we carry. And the women who learn to delegate often what I've found is find something or discover something powerful. And that is when they delegate, they don't become less capable. Like no one who delegates becomes less capable, they become more present, and again, it ties right back into what we've already said. You create more peace, freedom, effectiveness, and ultimately you come back to yourself. The core of who you are, the real unapologetic version of you is she's in there, she's just had all these layers and been carrying all this stuff. And actually, when you take one, I always say a quick analogy is you're carrying a backpack on your back, and it's got stones inside this backpack, and you stop and you take one out, and the stone might on it have like I don't know, meal planning. You set that aside, you ask someone to help. Then you walk a little bit further and you've got something else. And it could be that the emotional load of worrying about your parents, it could be a medical thing, you know, and you start undoing all this, and as you walk along this path, the bag becomes lighter, you feel a little bit, oh, this is easier, this is a bit free, and you're a bit more peaceful because you're not logging a carrier, you know, a backpack of these rocks, and you become more effective and just living. Like, and I think as well, you start like I don't know, a little bit of excitement creeps in because you're not worrying about everything and it, you know, trying to do everything all at this the same time. So I think that that's how it can change the way we see ourselves is it's okay. And you said it at the very beginning, I think it's it's about feeling safe enough to do this, and this is probably one of the biggest things. Like the art of delegation is really the art of recognising like you were never meant to carry everything alone. I don't know why, I don't know where this comes from, but so many of us do think it. And success isn't about how much can hold, it's just about knowing what to hold and what to let go of and trust in that support doesn't make you weak or really vulnerable, it actually helps make your life more sustainable. Um and I think that is why we really need to delegate.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Yeah, and that that's amazing. I feel like I want to leave that there. That was like a mic drop. That's so good. And that is the journey of life, isn't it? Letting go of these rocks in the backpack and enjoying the pursuit, enjoying the journey of doing so, you know, and we learn so much about ourselves that way. So we're gonna finish up with a nice little fire round, like a quick question, fire round. But before we do, I'd love you to finish this sentence.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Your life welcome because you're let me start it again. Your life becomes lighter when you stop believing that everything is yours to carry. Oh, love it so much. Okay, quick fire round before we go. Coffee. Early bird or night owl. I'm an early bird. One habit that changed your life. Journaling. What's something you've delegated that you'll never go back to doing yourself?

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Um using an online booking system for work.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

I love that. That is life-changing. And to finish this sentence, last thing for today an organized life is an organized life is uh an exciting life. It is, no, it is. It sounds boring to get organized, but it's very exciting for what it can bring you in your life. Now, I have absolutely loved having this conversation with you today. And for anybody who would like to find you, where can my listeners go?

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Um, you can find me on Instagram, LisaCram Coaching, um, and I am on TikTok for there as well. But if anyone who has listened to this and wants to um work or find out more, you can get me on um LisaCramcoaching at gmail.com as well because sometimes through Instagram, um I know there's not enough space, but voice note me or message me on Instagram because I am very active on there. Um chatting through um, but I know email some people have actually written me lots to get a bit of background and context to work with um doing one-to-one sessions, or I have a group programme um that I run monthly um a lot of the time when I've got one starting on the 29th of June as well. So it's all about a big reset, getting everyone into um just feeling a bit more in control. Love that.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

And so, what are you most excited about that you're working on right now?

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Basically that nervous system regulation. I think recently a lot of women have been feeling overwhelmed. It's been such a theme of the last several months. Um, and I think a lot of people don't appreciate how your nervous system really is impacted by this, even to the point of like carrying extra weight, um, physical manifestations in the body, sore heads, um, having illnesses that have been coming up a lot. And actually, when we learn to regulate the nervous system, this that it's honestly been a game changer for me as well. I am still, as much as I'm a coach and help others, I've been on this journey for the last six years, and I will never not come off the train of mindset coaching, anything like that, because you're constantly growing, you're constantly, you know, improving, and this nervous system um topic is just so hot right now. When I've been talking and explaining things to a lot of women, they're like, How are we this age in life and don't understand this about our own bodies? Um, and I mentioned it earlier a little touch on hormonal um kind of fluctuations, and I think a lot of people confuse that. Um hormones and nervous system, they're so well, they're so closely linked. But I'm really excited to um to help women navigate this. But that's the deeper, that's the kind of deeper work of it. But we're gonna get our uh ducks in a row, we're gonna get more organized, we're gonna get better systems in place, and we're just gonna have time to have fun. Like we don't need a nation of stressed women. I know that you know, someone's really listening to this, going, Oh, for God's sake, Lisa Christine, that that would be wonderful, but it's it's doable. Lisa, you have been incredible.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Thank you so so much for coming on the podcast. We so look forward to having you again until next time. Thanks for listening, everyone. Bye just now. Bye.