Rockers' Odyssey Through High Growls and Life Little Surprises with SIKE!

Ever wondered what it's like to merge the rawness of metal with the steady vibes of Brevard? Tanner and Ryan, the metal core rockers, invite us into their world, where the guttural growls meet the ocean's roar. They take us on a journey through their heavy influences, sharing tales of how bands like Bring Me The Horizon and Underoath helped carve their unique sound. But it's not just about the music; these Melbourne rockers also offer up a slice of their lives, from their hydration quirks to the technicalities of perfecting a vocal growl that could shake the sand off any beachsider.

Strap in for a rollercoaster of emotions as Tanner and Ryan open up about the complexities of maintaining a band that feels more like a family. They reflect on their beginnings, the highs and lows of band dynamics, and how personality compatibility is just as crucial as musical synergy. As we navigate the waves of their creative process, we get a glimpse into their recent collaborative approach to songwriting, diving into themes of relationships gone sour and personal turmoil amidst the backdrop of a global pandemic.

But it's not all heavy riffs and heartache; we also explore the balancing act of modern musicianship. From teaching music to composing for video games, and even making Uber Eats deliveries, one band member shares his hustle to keep the dream alive. Even when venturing into side projects like 'Car Crash Victims' and 'Mechanical Canine,' the duo emphasizes the anchor that is their main project, SIKE!. They reveal the secret to their enduring partnership and tease us with a wild concert tale that proves life in a band is anything but predictable. Join us for this no-holds-barred session that's as much about the music as it is about the musicians behind it.

Transcript

Rock Band Discusses Metal Influences

Speaker 1 0:01

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Speaker 2 0:14

I've been sipping on this hardcore . I've got to wet my whistle . I've got to wet my whistle too .

Speaker 3 0:20

I didn't bring anything to wet my whistle . I'm super unprepared .

Speaker 1 0:24

Oh no , you're going to get cotton mouth . Yeah , you'll be known to wet my whistle . I'm super unprepared . Oh no , you're going to get caught .

Speaker 2 0:26

Mel yeah , you'll be known as dry your whistle .

Speaker 3 0:29

Yeah .

Speaker 2 0:31

Everybody quiet your whistle .

Speaker 1 0:32

You want some .

Speaker 3 0:33

No , thank you Sure .

Speaker 1 0:35

What you don't do chia seeds .

Speaker 3 0:37

I've never even seen this , to be honest .

Speaker 1 0:38

That's what I said .

Speaker 3 0:39

They're like it's like , it's almost like boba in a way I love boba those chia seeds are just like slightly jelly .

Speaker 1 0:48

Yeah , yeah but it's not like .

Speaker 2 0:50

It's not like boba , where it's like , it's over-encumbersome sometimes .

Speaker 1 0:53

I don't know what you're talking about . I love me some boba I love boba too .

Speaker 2 0:58

Sometimes they're just like overwhelming , just sometimes .

Speaker 1 1:01

Not all the time . When you like , accidentally , like suck one in . Yeah , you can't do that with this . Also , what is in a boba ?

Speaker 2 1:09

Gotta be that like red number 40 shit Probably gotta be .

Speaker 1 1:14

I will look the other way . All right , we are here with psych Tanner and Ryan . Good to meet both of you . Oh , do you wanna put your headphones on ?

Speaker 3 1:25

I have headphones .

Speaker 1 1:26

Oh yeah , they're under you , yeah underneath . Oh , ryan , you're the um , you're the lead singer , yeah .

Speaker 3 1:33

Yes .

Speaker 1 1:35

And Tanner , you do drums mostly , but you started telling me about low growls and high growls .

Speaker 2 1:42

Yeah , so not only do I do drums , but I also do all the backing tracks , obviously with Ryan's assistance too , right , and then I also do low growls , harmonies , and now easing my way into high growls so for people that don't know , you guys are at like a heavy metal band .

Speaker 1 2:01

Is that how you describe yourselves ?

Speaker 2 2:03

how would you because ? There's a tinge of like what is it cuz there is a little .

Speaker 1 2:10

It's a little beachy , sometimes it's a little surfy yeah , a little bit .

Speaker 3 2:15

We get that question and we've had that question since we started like six years ago , and we never really know how to answer . We cop out with we're a rock band or we're hardcore .

Speaker 1 2:26

Surf core , surf core .

Speaker 3 2:29

Surf core We've heard like new punk .

Speaker 1 2:32

Yeah , there's a little punk in there .

Speaker 3 2:35

We're a rock band , okay , and we have a lot of influences and we just make music that sounds good . We don't really care about . Oh , we're trying to sound like this or that .

Speaker 1 2:51

Yeah , I'd say we're just a rock band . Yeah , yeah , that really encompasses it . What are like ? What are some historical metal bands that you guys grew up listening to ? Or like that's so easy , what is it ?

Speaker 2 2:59

um .

Speaker 2 3:00

For us , I know mutually , is bring me the horizon they play a lot of influence on our sound and the direction that we enjoy going into . Personally I really enjoy under oath . I like how they incorporate some of their electronics , especially in their album erase me . It's such a good album that diverts from a lot of their main stuff but goes into a really interesting territory that I've personally really enjoy . There's another band called 68 , which comes from the guitar slash singer , josh Scoggin , who's played in other countless metal bands like the Chariot . That band's been a super big influence on myself .

Speaker 3 3:47

Those are all of them , literally I say , like every single one of those bands .

Speaker 1 3:49

so I'm curious about this low growl , high growl . Is that like historically , what ? Like a staple in the genre of the music you guys play in ? Yeah , yeah , I would say so can , can you guys each give me a high growl oh ?

Speaker 2 4:07

gosh . Okay , well , the backup from the mic a little bit that would be all right , can you your best ? Yeah , I don't even warmed up for this , no , I didn't warm up for this either this is gonna be tough do you want to go first ? Okay , I'm trying to find , like that head space to get into , because you're practicing how to get into your hide .

Speaker 1 4:29

Yeah , okay .

Speaker 2 4:31

So okay for a high yeah .

Speaker 1 4:38

I'm awake .

Speaker 3 4:38

It's 10 am it's 10 am and I'll do the ooh , like the lower growl . Yeah , that's cool To do a high and I'll do the ooh like the lower growl . Yeah , that's cool To do a high one , it would clear this room . I'm not going to do that to you guys , thank you , my ears appreciate it .

Speaker 1 4:52

Yeah , but that's super cool yeah .

Speaker 2 4:55

Thank you , thank you .

Songwriting and Band Dynamics

Speaker 1 4:58

Did you guys grow up in Melbourne ? Yes , yeah .

Speaker 2 5:02

I grew up in Palm Bay .

Speaker 1 5:03

It's essentially Melbourne . Yeah , I grew up in Palm Bay . It's essentially Melbourne . Yeah , yeah , yeah , brevard .

Speaker 2 5:06

But yeah , this area definitely .

Speaker 1 5:08

Yeah , you guys went to high school here . Which high school ?

Speaker 2 5:11

I went to Bayside , I went to O'Galley .

Speaker 1 5:14

How was it ?

Speaker 2 5:18

It's kind of like just went through it , Nothing really too special . I would say no . No how far removed are you from those years ? Oh my God , my graduation was eight years ago . Eight , oh my gosh , mine was nine . Wow .

Speaker 1 5:39

Okay , so pretty far removed . Yeah , when did you guys meet ?

Speaker 2 5:44

Was it in high school or after it was ? In high school , I had just graduated and you ? I was about to .

Speaker 3 5:51

You know you were about to go into your senior year when we met yeah , where'd you guys meet ? We were actually .

Speaker 3 5:59

You were in a band already yeah and their guitarist sucked and they kicked him out . And then um , through mutual friends that we'd had , they were like , oh , this guy ryan actually the old guitarist was also named ryan . They were like you should get this guy in . Um and tanner was in that band and I went to pick him up for a practice one day and we had never met in person before , but we were in the same band and I picked him up and like immediately , we just like started talking , like we've known each other for years and , oh cool , ever since then we've been in multiple bands together before psych .

Speaker 3 6:35

Oh , really yeah , this was like 2015 , I think yeah , it was 2015 and then we started several bands . None of them really worked , and then we we started Psych in the summer of 2018 . So we're coming up on six years .

Speaker 2 6:49

I think of Psych . Yeah , six years in June .

Speaker 1 6:51

What do you think makes this one work ?

Speaker 2 6:53

Less people , less people , oh , 100% . So what ?

Speaker 1 6:56

gets you kicked out of a band .

Speaker 2 7:02

So I've never been kicked out . I've only ever stayed until the bitter ends of every single one or left on my own terms , um , but what gets you kicked out of a band is um consistency of not being consistent , yes , um . Not showing up , not showing well . Not only just not showing up , but not molding well with everybody else ego yeah , it could be ego and it could just straight up be just personality .

Speaker 2 7:31

Sometimes it just doesn't fit . Um , sometimes people can work through that and settle their differences and being like , oh yeah , I'm just working with this person but , um , for ryan and I it's very important that we mesh well together . If either of us are having a bad day , we let each other know and we work through it together .

Speaker 1 7:49

Oh nice .

Speaker 2 7:50

If we ever have any differences , we mediate it , we come to a nice compromise and with other people who we have had , that's been a very difficult thing to work through .

Speaker 1 8:07

With us . It keeps it simple , so have had meaning like your past bands there's no room for a third or a fourth in this psych yeah , we've considered it at one point but , that was quickly , uh , pushed under , we um , we like the dynamic of us yeah , yeah

Speaker 3 8:23

and we've had many people over the years be like oh , do you guys need a bassist ? Very , very , very talented people . And we were always like , no , even if they're very talented people . It's the dynamic of how this works and has been working for so long .

Speaker 1 8:39

I don't want to ruin that it's been going so well for so long . Good , good , it's like bringing a third into the bedroom it might fuck everything up , right um , who does like the writing of the lyrics ? It's collaboration or mainly you , ryan ?

Speaker 3 8:57

for years it's been me primarily , but recently it's been a little bit more collaboration and why is that ? Um , why is , do you mean like , why is there more collaboration ?

Speaker 1 9:08

yeah , well , yeah , why did you sort of open up that ?

Speaker 3 9:12

I'm kind of a megalomaniac when it comes to creativity and I recognize that , and tanner has increasingly been so much . He's always been a very , very impressive musician , but he's just been opening up so much more even than he already was , and as a as a vocalist , as a lyricist , as a songwriter and I it just felt like it was time yeah and there's one song we just recently wrote that he just wrote all the lyrics for , like oh , really , yeah , usually for you .

Speaker 3 9:42

Yeah , thank you yeah go tanner we've always had the . We write the music first and then like I'll really just mess with the lyrics alone for a long time , and I did that for this song . And then tanner hit me up . He's like hey , I got , I got lyrics for the song . I was like what , like all of them ? And he sent it to me and I had lyrics and I was like delete trash , wow , and they're great .

Speaker 1 10:05

They're really , really good what do you guys usually sing about ?

Speaker 3 10:08

a lot of the subject matter is like soured relationships , whether it's romantic or personal , or betrayal is a huge theme through our lyrical content um a lot of just like things that happen to us yeah like , like the bad things , that really happen to us is like our therapy cathartic way of getting it like worked out which has always actually felt amazing yeah , yeah , so it's beyond like relationships , yeah yeah , it's also like um , just like also life situations , you know um can you give me an example ?

Speaker 3 10:42

oh man yeah , uh , like our song Scratching my Eyes Out . I wrote that around the time COVID started happening and everyone was inside and everyone was going stir crazy and that was about just like kind of losing my mind , like I couldn't really work that much . I was like not seeing a lot of people . I lost like a significant amount of weight . It was a crazy time and you went crazy and that song was just about like kind of just being like like low-key losing it yeah , and feeling like I'm slipping .

Speaker 1 11:10

I'm slipping a lot . I'm not doing good . That's cool . What about girls ? Are there girls in your lives right now ?

Speaker 3 11:20

Yes , yes , yes .

Speaker 1 11:22

Okay . But , it's new .

Speaker 3 11:24

No .

Speaker 1 11:25

It's old .

Speaker 3 11:26

Yes , that's good .

Speaker 1 11:28

Yes , okay .

Speaker 3 11:30

It's been off and on thing for close to like a year and a half now , okay , yeah , it's good .

Speaker 1 11:37

It's good . Have you written anything about this particular person ?

Speaker 3 11:44

No , no , no .

Speaker 1 11:45

No , no , you think you will in the future . Maybe Does she want you to .

Speaker 3 11:49

I'd have to ask . I would have to ask .

Speaker 1 11:53

What about you , Tanner ?

Speaker 2 11:57

Not in particular .

Speaker 1 11:58

Not in particular .

Speaker 2 11:59

Right now , I mean , I'm personally taking it easy on my strides in life .

Speaker 1 12:04

Yeah .

Speaker 2 12:06

In terms of the writing about people . That's a very good point . I try to make it a point not to write about people that I know .

Speaker 1 12:14

It can get ugly right .

Speaker 2 12:15

It can yeah , Especially if you write like a big love song about somebody and they're like oh , my God , you mean so much to me . The world . And then like , if things split , then you're like ooh , let's record it . Oh , my god you mean so much to me the world and then like , if things split , then you're like oh , that's recorded . Now I have this song about this person that I don't quite feel that way , yeah , but the same also goes for the other way around .

Speaker 2 12:34

About a song about hating somebody , yeah , um , in particular like um , because if that , if you come around to being like you know what , I actually still like this person regardless of everything . I mean that's also like a case by case thing , yeah , but if it's like specifically , maybe about you know if something has turned like sour in a relationship , and then you're like , oh man , this sucks . And then you're like you know , I actually still kind of care for this person . It's just the situation .

Speaker 1 13:03

You don't want to diss them . Yeah , exactly , exactly doesn't it feel good , though sometimes like you guys like scream things out loud yeah it's cathartic , it helps , but you're never aiming that energy at a particular person most of the time case by right . Watch out people .

Speaker 3 13:23

Case by case . I've got a couple of diss tracks . Yeah , in fact I'd say a lot of them are diss tracks actually .

Speaker 2 13:31

Oh , my God .

Speaker 3 13:31

But , for a long , long time ago . A lot of these songs are old , about people I haven't seen in years .

Speaker 1 13:36

Yeah , so it's safe . It's safe , yes , yeah .

Speaker 3 13:39

I won't do it if someone's currently in my life or it's just like we're . We're mad at each other at the moment . Yeah , it's like door shut . Nails are in the coffin Like we're done .

Speaker 2 13:49

That's that's what I'm talking about .

Speaker 3 13:51

OK .

Speaker 2 13:51

Better words than me I'm still just waking up . Yeah .

Speaker 1 13:56

Got it together . So yeah , you're still waking up . What do you guys do when you know ?

Speaker 2 14:04

oh yeah , you go first on this one jobs or jobs hobbies outside of the music I've got uh .

Speaker 3 14:12

I right now I'm just uh in school . Um , I have a job . I just drive for the papa john's , which is pretty good money actually , and then when I'm not doing that , it's literally like spending time with the female companion we've referenced before , or , um , spending time with my son oh , you have a son I do yeah wow , how old is he he just turned two and a half oh you gotta love that age it's it's great yeah he will not stop talking . Yes , and they won't they't .

Speaker 1 14:44

I have an eight-year-old and I have to like . I used to put like earbuds in because it was overwhelming to the senses . Oh my God . But I didn't want to be mean , so I'll be like let me just have a little peace for 30 minutes and then . I'll take him out and it'll feel better . Yeah , do you live with your son or do you share him ?

Speaker 3 15:04

Split , it'll feel better . Yeah , do you live with your son or do you share him Split ? Yeah , I get him like the second half of the week , that's nice , yeah . Yeah , a little break in between , it's very nice . Yeah , that's cool . When I'm with him , I love him so much . And then , like by the last day , I'm like all right .

Speaker 1 15:18

Time . You've been saying like spider-man halloween .

Speaker 3 15:26

For like three days now I've watched this episode 30 times .

Speaker 1 15:28

Yeah , it's good , but you know , yeah , yeah can we watch puppy dog pals or something ? Switch it up a bit , yeah , um , do you guys have roommates ? You guys live alone .

Speaker 2 15:37

I I live in my uh grandparents house with my brother , sister-in-law and their two kids oh , wow , yeah , you have . You have some kids in your life too oh , I also have my own daughter too , you do yes , oh my god how's that ?

Speaker 1 15:52

how is she ?

Speaker 2 15:52

she's wonderful yeah , she's beautiful , she's how old is she .

Speaker 1 15:56

She's a year old okay , and a couple months yeah yeah , we're in the early stages um it gets easier , guys , all right I needed that yeah it has it has from the , from the very early age . Yes , yeah , yeah , I can feel it's getting well , you it goes like this right you know , the more they grow , you know you can kind of stop holding their hand and , uh , communicate better and um , crying might stop yeah , for the most part it has .

Speaker 3 16:28

Yeah , yeah . Then he'll like get on top of a table and fall and be like I'm like are you okay ?

Speaker 1 16:34

and he's like yeah , he's still crying I'm like all right , buddy , you got it . Are you guys seeing any musically inclined talents ? I mean they're really young , but do you guys like put a drum set in front of them or anything ?

Speaker 2 16:51

My daughter really , really loves the wiggles , so I think there's some potential there . There you go . She's already wiggling at like a year old . So you know the pipeline of wiggling to musician is it's such a strong

Musician's Diverse Creative Ventures

Speaker 2 17:03

pipeline .

Speaker 1 17:03

Yeah .

Speaker 2 17:03

Yeah , it's like a direct like yeah , 80 mile per hour bright line right there .

Speaker 1 17:08

yeah the bright line hit somebody right a family of five yeah that keeps hitting people yeah , I mean , like it's hungry , need souls , do you ? Guys follow that that account on Instagram about it .

Speaker 2 17:27

There's an account on Instagram . Yeah , that's a little too morbid call it .

Speaker 1 17:30

Yeah , murder train . He's hungry .

Speaker 3 17:36

Yeah , like every time I see it I just go like , oh , there it goes , to get another family of five like yeah , it's like on a weekly basis yeah , please I think so .

Speaker 1 17:46

I mean , like I'm not totally exaggerating , I mean , no , I think you're right .

Speaker 3 17:49

I think you're 100 right . It's like a new problem .

Speaker 1 17:53

It just keeps hitting people it's like over 100 people , since people try to go through it really fast well , I I think that's a problem for Florida . Yeah , yeah , definitely a lot of Florida men out there .

Speaker 2 18:10

Not much more anymore . I guess About 100 less About 134 less .

Speaker 3 18:17

You got the number .

Speaker 1 18:19

Last time I checked Statistics on the stat . All right . So both of you are young dads . That's crazy to me .

Speaker 2 18:29

DILFs if you will . You could call us dad rock if you'd want .

Speaker 1 18:31

DILFs . What do you do as a job ?

Speaker 2 18:39

Oh God . So I say that in a loving way , because I like to over encumber myself with just a bunch of different things , so I do like Uber Eats deliveries at night . During the day , I give music lessons over at Music and Arts in development with a new project called Mosaic Music , which is a small company focused on giving lessons to every individual , no matter skill set or age range , while also planning to put on events and special occasions that are all related to music . Um , and then , on my own accord , I also write video game music in my free time .

Speaker 2 19:27

get out yeah , so I keep myself busy . Oh , and then I also perform with the space coast symphony orchestra oh damn busy boy over here , absolutely busy wow .

Speaker 1 19:40

So when you you write stuff for video games , how do you just put it up on like a hosting site and people will pick . I want that one in that one . How does ?

Speaker 2 19:51

that work . I usually get people come to me , usually with my online presence , where I like on Twitter or if you want to call it X .

Speaker 1 20:02

I don't , nobody calls it it .

Speaker 2 20:04

X .

Speaker 1 20:04

That was such a decision what's your handle , so people can find you ?

Speaker 2 20:08

it is r-u-k-y , d-e-e-r , and if you find me there you can contact me for video game music I've composed for specifically . Right now I work with Sky Hour Works . We made games such as how Exora the Skies Abound , a game called A Nightmare's Trip , some game jams like Pat Cat , and then also another one called Space Mech Pilot . There's a couple other games that we have in the works . And then I'm also working with another studio right now , which with a in development game that I don't know if I can say too much about okay um , but all these are relatively small companies , um nothing big or crazy but you've really tapped into the different avenues like a musician can take .

Speaker 2 20:57

Yeah , absolutely , that's impressive other than psych and my video game music and working with the orchestra . I also have two of my own projects called car crash victims , which is a emo shoegaze post-rock band , and another one called mechanical canine , which is a jungle hyper pop , um , electronic crazy project and these are all they're .

Speaker 1 21:23

They're side bands and ryan , you're cool with that . I just have this . This is

Band Dynamics and Side Projects

Speaker 1 21:31

it .

Speaker 3 21:31

I wasn't another band a little bit ago for a little bit , but it's just like . Uh , I actually was kicked out of that band yeah , what'd you do ? I didn't show up , I guess .

Speaker 1 21:41

Yeah .

Speaker 3 21:42

Which is I love those guys . But that's not true . No , there's weird stuff behind the scenes with a guitarist yeah , girl drama .

Speaker 1 21:51

Yeah .

Speaker 3 21:55

But that band has they kicked me out , and then they immediately stopped doing things . Playing , oh , that sucks For not having enough time . Hmm , hmm , we all don't have enough time . Yeah , no one does um . But now , uh , aside from that , I mean you had also had other side projects before your um mechanical canine and car crash tanner was a man called ectogasm years ago yeah um , so I've been , I've been cool with the side pieces for a while . I'm just like you know . We'll keep this an open relationship .

Speaker 3 22:29

Just you know , as long as you come home to daddy , that's all I care about , so I have my little side piece action with Underbite and honestly , we've just been doing this together for so long .

Speaker 2 22:42

Yeah , it's easy . Yeah , psych is home base . Yeah , psych's home base , psych is home base . It's main priority for me . All the other side projects I do are just to get that ADHD brain part of me out , like I need to work on this . But this doesn't apply to psych , so I'm going to go off and do my own thing with it , just so I can get it out of my system .

Speaker 1 23:02

Yeah , I hear you . I think I'm like that too . I have like 15 projects and it's like 15 minutes at a time . Then I lose interest and I have to go to the next one . Oh yeah , absolutely Do you guys think you guys are like a yin-yang , like opposites . Oh yeah , yes , a thousand percent A thousand percent we have .

Speaker 3 23:20

We have nothing in common . This is the one thing we have in common . But I also feel like we wouldn't have worked if we were much more similar and , like we know when , to not be around each other too much , which I feel like is the problem with almost all band personal romantic relationships like , at least in my personal experience , just spending too much time yeah like we come to practice , we tear it up , we have our shows , we go crazy and then we're like all right , we'll see you the next practice .

Speaker 3 23:56

And that's been the vibe for nine years . Yeah , we're still writing , playing like recording .

Speaker 1 24:06

No signs of slowing down . So , yeah , your concerts probably get really intense . Yeah , what is the craziest thing that has happened during a concert .

Speaker 2 24:15

Well , funny enough . You say this Ryan , take it over .

Speaker 3 24:22

The other night . The other night , the other night we were playing the Stamp at Vero . I love the Stamp . Such a good venue . It's a violent little venue . It's a crappy little dive bar . I say with love and you get like 30 to 40 people in there and it's the most violent thing you've ever seen . People are like sitting on the bar . Dudes are just like like , did you see the dude do the backflip ?

Speaker 2 24:48

no , I didn't .

Speaker 1 24:48

Yeah , he backed almost into you , oh my god , like in the pit . What is the age range here , uh ?

Speaker 3 24:54

anywhere from like early 20s to like 40s probably actually there was a there was an older man in a wheelchair yes uh , next to the side of the pit , that was pretty cool yeah , but um , I talked to him after the show .

Speaker 2 25:05

He was like yeah , people were trying to protect me . Do they not see all these tattoos on my arms I got myself where do you see yourself in 40 years ?

Speaker 3 25:12

yeah , there but it was towards the end of our set and you know there's moshing going on , it's not abnormal . And then it got a little intense and two dudes started swinging on each other like real hard like linebacker , looking like six , two , six , three dudes , and I was like , hey , can you stop , can you not do ?

Speaker 1 25:32

that ? Do you say that in the microphone ?

Speaker 3 25:33

oh , yeah , this is the only time I would have , because any other time of moshing I'm not gonna stop that yeah , that's awesome yeah but like I , I saw like several fists flying . It was like four or five people got involved and I was like all right , you , we're not going to do that like this is now hurting the show , please . I know there's probably other metal bands . They're like yeah there's you , awesome yeah like it's cool until a point , but other people there that aren't feeling that that that kills the show so I , I .

Speaker 3 26:03

It was towards the end of the song so I didn't have to stop , but we didn't continue the set until it finished . I was like all right , figure this out , like not at my show , someone go over there . Someone go over there . Figure it out . Or don't come back , or we'll stop playing yeah like we only had one song left . Anyway , right , but um yeah , no , the fist fight . That was pretty cool has anybody like ?

Speaker 1 26:23

have you needed to call an ambulance or anything ?

Speaker 3 26:25

Not , yet Not yet . There was another show we played in Vero years ago where we played similar like small show but violent show and afterwards a girl walked up to me with just blood running out of her nose and she was like that show was awesome .

Speaker 1 26:40

I had such a good time .

Speaker 3 26:41

I'm like , are you okay Do ? You know what's going on and she's like yes , I do . I got hit like the beginning of the set .

Speaker 1 26:49

Oh my gosh , take an Advil or something . Totally .

Speaker 3 26:54

Do you guys ?

Speaker 1 26:54

have like like stage five clingers , like fans that are just it's an old reference . Yeah , i'm'm sorry , I just went no , it was um , it was uh . No , oh , was it I was thinking it was um wayne . Uh , wayne's world . Right , that's the original . Am I wrong ? Yeah , there , yeah , have you guys seen Wayne's World ?

Speaker 2 27:25

It's been a while since I've seen it .

Speaker 1 27:27

Okay , well , yeah , they had this fan . That was crazy .

Speaker 2 27:31

Oh , a crazed fan .

Speaker 1 27:32

Crazed fan Girl in particular .

Speaker 3 27:36

Hmm , crazed Not exactly so maybe there's a stage one . Yeah , yeah , group . You guys have group thing .

Speaker 2 27:43

Yeah .

Speaker 1 27:43

Three or four . Yeah , group , you guys have groupies .

Speaker 3 27:45

No , we don't .

Speaker 1 27:46

You guys don't see like the same faces .

Speaker 3 27:48

I mean .

Speaker 1 27:50

Ryan does .

Speaker 3 27:51

Do you no , no , no . We see some repeat faces . Yes , we do , and it's been six years , Like we've seen some repeat people that are interested Over it's been six years , like we've seen some repeat people that are interested over time gone away . I mean , but no , for this will go public .

Speaker 1 28:09

No , no so nobody's ever like giving you their phone number after the show or anything one time somebody did for me yeah that was awkward um you didn't call

Speaker 2 28:19

them . No , uh , they're like , hey , um , can my friend give me ? Oh my God , I can't speak . They were like , hey , can you like give me your number ? And I was like at first I was like , oh my gosh , they're being really friendly . And then it kicked in on me and I was like at the time I was like I'm in a relationship , I'm sorry , no . At the time I was like I'm in a relationship , I'm sorry , no . And still thinking about it now , I probably wouldn't , just because I feel like there's a weird air about that .

Speaker 1 28:52

Right , like somebody like coming to the show and being like hey , but even if they were super cute , does that not matter ?

Speaker 2 28:58

I think that still would waver on me .

Speaker 1 29:01

Really .

Speaker 2 29:01

I'd have to give it some time to think about it . Yeah , because I don't know it . If somebody's like coming to the show to see you and enjoy you and a somehow relationship forms from that , to me , it feels a little awkward because it's like you're being idolized , yeah and I feel like that would continue through like a non-performative setting yeah , where it's like , that's wise yeah so it's like , if I like wake up the next morning and I'm just doing my daily thing of being myself , and they're still like starry-eyed yeah then it kind of well , where do you guys meet girls , then , or significant others ?

Speaker 3 29:41

I will say I do kind of have to poke in . I was like , oh no , not really . I met my baby mama at a psych show . Yeah , the mother of my child , she came to a psych show . Did she pass you the number , or how did that go ?

Speaker 1 29:55

We were both dating people at the time , oh man .

Speaker 3 29:56

We hated those people .

Speaker 1 29:57

Okay .

Speaker 3 29:58

But we're not going to mess around . But it started just not numbers , but we're not , you know , going to mess around . But I started just not numbers , but like . Following on like Instagram or Snapchat .

Speaker 1 30:06

That's like the in for I feel like people .

Speaker 2 30:08

DMs , it is DMs .

Speaker 3 30:09

yeah , dms are the ins , or even just like slightly over time , like follow , and then like here , like there , like a story there , I'll swipe up on this here and then , before you know it , you have like a two and a half year old with them yeah , that's actually also the similar story with me on how my daughter came to be .

Speaker 2 30:29

Um , it was , they were . They were really good with it , they were really sneaky . Um , she came to a show where I wasn't even doing a psych show . I was actually like guest starring on um one of my buddy sets and playing synthesizer for them . And she came to the show and had been watching Psych for a hot minute and they posted something up on Facebook and I saw it and I was like , oh my gosh , we talked about it . And then they messaged me and they were like , so what was that instrument ? You were playing up there , damn well , knowing exactly what that instrument was , and they got me on the gear talk and we started a long conversation and then , next thing , you know it , boom yeah , there's a daughter .

Speaker 1 31:16

Yeah , do you guys have good relationships with them , though ?

Speaker 2 31:20

yeah , that's good , yeah , yeah , yeah good yeah , you got to right , yeah you have to gotta make it work .

Speaker 3 31:26

They're great moms yeah , they're great moms shout out to alexa mckenzie they're , they're incredible mothers yeah , I couldn't .

Speaker 2 31:32

I could not have asked for a better mother yeah , for my child ditto .

Speaker 1 31:36

Do you guys ? Do they still come to the shows ?

Speaker 3 31:39

uh no mckenzie does every now and then . That's good yeah yeah , babysitter she did bring tyler uh to a psych show .

Speaker 1 31:47

Uh , my son oh , really yeah back in october did you have to wear headphones ?

Speaker 3 31:53

uh no , it was at the ogali civic center . Did he wear headphones ?

Speaker 2 31:56

I don't remember I think he did , he might have .

Speaker 3 31:59

He might have worn headphones . Yeah , he was . It's actually the day before he turned two .

Speaker 1 32:04

We all sang happy birthday .

Speaker 3 32:05

It was the coolest set we've ever played .

Speaker 2 32:07

It was cool . We're all cool . Everybody still loves each other .

Speaker 1 32:13

Good , good , good . I want to play a game with you guys as you know or may not know , Nyla Lois was the one who nominated you guys to be on the show . We're going to play a little game called Nyla Wants to Know .

Speaker 2 32:26

Oh , let's do it . Let's do it . Come on , here , we go , all right .

Speaker 1 32:30

There's a few questions for you , all right . What style of music did you start playing at first ?

Speaker 2 32:38

Oh , that's a good question . That is yeah . How would we describe it ?

Speaker 3 32:46

like we as a band or we personally like , why not both ? Both okay , so both . I first started playing in bands , playing like just covers , like radio rock , like food fighters or creed um here , but um we , I'd say we started playing like almost like kind of indie alternative , like grungy . When we started yeah , like I was listening to a lot of strokes , and like Guns N' Roses , like pad rock yeah , what would you say ?

Speaker 2 33:18

um , personally first starting out , yeah , I was doing a lot of like indie rock stuff too , um , and also dabbling in like emo . I was doing like my own drum covers in my garage with like a camera set up . Um , those are hidden somewhere in the vault , um , uh , but yeah , for psych . Starting out it was . But yeah , for Psych starting out it was very , I would say , almost like experimental rock in a way .

Speaker 1 33:57

Because we had . I was playing synthesizers with my left hand and drums with my right hand .

Speaker 2 34:00

Time for ADD . Yeah , seriously , the ADHD was crazy . It still is , but that was the undiagnosed period .

Speaker 1 34:05

It's your superpower . It really is .

Speaker 2 34:09

It really comes in handy . In other days it is so detrimental . But yeah , at first it was like electronic indie post-grunge , like post grunge , and now it's definitely that weird um rock , electronic , hardcore , metalcore . Every other core it's just , it's just us yeah it's hard to put a label on it . If you want to put an umbrella term , it's rock , but if you want to get into specifics , we have no idea , dad core , dad core .

Speaker 1 34:46

What are your top three favorite bands currently ? I know we talked about a little bit like influenced , but currently .

Speaker 2 34:53

Yeah , oh man , I . I was about to say I gotta pull up my spotify for this one .

Speaker 3 34:58

I give you one . I'm always listening to um the pop punk band the story , so they were huge when I was in high school and I still love them . A lot of like my lyrical things . I went to Instagram . What am I doing ?

Speaker 1 35:11

That's not even close . Checking your DM Just gotta check them .

Speaker 2 35:15

It's all men . Top three current favorite artists .

Speaker 3 35:22

I'm going through a big Aliceice in chain space okay um , and I'm going back to uh title fight I'm getting into title no , we're so over , yeah title fight . Yeah , they were like a 2010s , like emo hardcore band , um , and I all like music snob friends . I have always been like yeah title fight , title fight , and I've never listened to them too much , but now they got you .

Speaker 1 35:46

They're so good .

Speaker 2 35:48

This is going to be a very eclectic three that . I have Okay what you got First one is Scuttlefuzz . They're a very indie electronic bedroom pop band .

Speaker 1 36:00

I like that name .

Speaker 2 36:01

It's such a good name Scuttlefuzz is cool . Scuttlefuzz is really cool . Um , there's a local band called funeral homes . They're a shoegaze band . Um , super good and um , I think . Lastly , for top three recently , keonashi ke yeah . Keio Nashi .

Speaker 2 36:25

Japanese no , they are a . They are like a slam hardcore band and the vocalist has some really wild high-pitched screams that you won't find anywhere else but they're very . At first everybody's a little bit taken aback by the band because the vocals really off-put . But once you get into the lyrics and meanings and like really digging , like what it's all about and if you can get past that first initial phase of like culture shock almost yeah then you can really enjoy it .

Speaker 1 37:03

It's a really slam a band interesting yeah , oh cool , all right , nyla wants to know how old were you when you learned how to play your music or your instruments oh god like 11 11 .

Speaker 3 37:16

Yeah , yeah , I got into guitar hero at first is that how it happened ?

Speaker 3 37:20

yeah , yeah , there's a kid on my street when I was growing up . He was like the rich kid , um , and he always had cool stuff on christmas . So , like christmas morning I opened my things and I was like this sucks . And then I went to raymond's house and he got guitar hero and I was like whoa , this is crazy . And um , I got really , really good at that . And then I was like , can I have a guitar ? Can I have a guitar ? My dad was like no , and I kept bothering him and he bought me like a Fender star caster and that was yeah , I was like 10 , 10 or 11 , sucked at it for like a long time . I still suck at it . It's been 17 years .

Speaker 1 37:59

You're good enough , right ?

Speaker 3 38:00

Yeah , yeah , good enough , I'm good enough to trick people that don't know how to play it .

Speaker 1 38:04

That's funny . What about you ?

Speaker 2 38:05

I follow the same exact pipeline , but with a little bit of alteration in there . I started out Guitar Hero 3 on the Wii , yes , which sucked because the DLC was so limited . I think it only came with the pre-built in-game DLC and not like any additional ones you can get from the store so it's like I would later go on YouTube and be like , how are people playing these songs ?

Speaker 2 38:29

like , I don't have these songs . So after Guitar Hero 3 , my , I feel like my parents knew that I was very musically inclined , so during one Christmas they bought me Rock Band 1 and then , yeah , I went from guitar immediately to drums and that's all I would play is . I would just keep playing the drums and then , as the years went on , like Rock Band 3 came out and they got the cymbal attachments with it , my parents bought me like an upgraded Rock Band foot pedal and I was souped up with that kit .

Speaker 2 39:01

Um , and the the great thing about rock band is actually a lot like I would say like 90 of the notes are pretty accurate to an actual drum set they even have like so it translates well , it translates very well , interesting there's even some individuals who have made rock band guitar hero s games on the computer with custom songs and maps , and you can plug in , like your rock band and guitar hero controllers into those onto your computer and still keep learning that's so cool .

Speaker 1 39:38

I'm trying to get my daughter to appreciate music , and you know like it's valuable to know an instrument , so I'm taking this . I remember playing too , and I feel like a fucking rock star .

Speaker 3 39:51

So , it's a good feeling . It's electrifying .

Speaker 1 39:54

Yes , it really is I'm going to . That's what we're doing this summer Nice .

Speaker 2 39:58

Thank you , boys , absolutely .

Speaker 1 40:01

All we're doing this summer . Nice , thank you boys , absolutely . Uh , all right , nyla wants to know what's the best advice you have for young musicians , besides this rock band theory that we've made up here that rock band theory is a very good one ? Yeah , I think so too .

Speaker 3 40:12

Just play , yeah , just play and suck , just be really bad and just . But don't stop , just keep going , suck and suck , and suck and suck and suck , and then one , and then one day you just won't .

Speaker 1 40:22

Yeah .

Speaker 3 40:22

If you keep doing it , you will have to get better at some point . We've bombed a million bajillion times over the course of our entire music life .

Speaker 2 40:34

We've had a saying now in psych is like if a show doesn't go wrong , it wasn't a psych show .

Speaker 3 40:40

No , yeah , we'll have technical problems every single show , really yeah , every single show , but we've learned to navigate that and honestly kind of make it work for us and like make it light , and then when we go back and it feels like kind of even better because it's like , oh yeah , like you know , this can suck but , now we jumped back on .

Speaker 2 40:57

So yeah , just keep playing just keep playing , just keep playing , keep playing live Okay , playing in front of people is a real fight or flight .

Speaker 3 41:05

You can be really good or really probably really bad at first . But you'll know how to . You'll feel the I suck and I'm not doing well and that's a bad feeling . And you'll immediately be like , ah , how do I get this better ?

Speaker 1 41:26

And you'll be analytical about it and you'll figure it out and the next time you suck it won't . It won't hurt as bad , yeah no , sting is bad .

Speaker 3 41:30

Yeah , very good all right .

Speaker 2 41:30

One more question from miss nyla when's your next ?

Speaker 3 41:31

gig . Ah , oh , we just had our last one scheduled . Yeah , you guys just played , huh , what about the mexican ?

Speaker 2 41:36

restaurant are we ? Doing that I think that's still in works . I got to hit back up on that . But yeah , I think we're going to be playing a very small Mexican restaurant venue here in the future .

Speaker 1 41:49

Yeah , goodness .

Speaker 2 41:51

At first , when I got that message , I was like yeah .

Speaker 1 41:55

What yeah ?

Speaker 2 41:58

I was like I don't think there's a more perfect venue for psych than a small mexican restaurant hosting us . I feel like that fits our vibe immensely that's super cool .

Speaker 1 42:09

Well , let us know , tell us how we can um get in touch or like be up to date with your happenings yeah , uh , we have social media .

Speaker 3 42:21

Um we only facebook . We have facebook . We have , uh , we're mostly active on instagram okay , to be honest I think we have a twitter . We do that thing's been active , but yeah , don't go there okay , so instagram , what's your handle ? Uh , psych s-i-k-e underscore f-l .

Speaker 1 42:38

That's it nice , nice , any parting words , boys .

Speaker 2 42:43

Thank you so much for having us .

Speaker 1 42:44

Thank you for coming .

Speaker 2 42:45

It was a joy letting us indulge in ourselves . We don't get interviewed too often , so it's always nice to come up and help tell the world about what we are , what we do , what it is , what it do .

Speaker 1 42:58

Absolutely . It was a pleasure to meet both of you . You guys are awesome . Oh yeah , what it is , what it do , it was a pleasure to meet both of you . You guys are awesome . Oh yeah , you guys want to nominate someone . I'd sit in your chairs .

Speaker 2 43:06

Who do you want to nominate ? Because I have somebody I want to nominate , you do yeah . Go for it . I want to nominate fields of Saturn .

Speaker 3 43:13

Yeah .

Speaker 2 43:13

I feel like they've been one of the most long-standing bands within our history of Brevard and I would love to hear their brains being picked .

Speaker 3 43:26

Would love to love to see fields up here , cool there and their lead singer booked the first psych show yeah , ever oh , really yeah back in , like 2018 people they're very fine .

Speaker 2 43:40

Yeah , yeah , I got a sweet guy .

Speaker 1 43:41

Yeah , love Casey all right , casey , you've been nominated .

Speaker 3 43:44

I probably will nominate Anthony Soland . He is the guy from standard collective singer of easy Uzi's beautiful we'd love to get him in . He's a great dude . He's been in the scene forever . Standard used to be in the mall . Now it's in O'Galley , yeah , and I'm literally . There's a standard shirt , this is a standard hat . He's a great guy . He's a hell of a singer and yeah , and he's got major roots here yeah back in the groove tube days groove tube .

Speaker 1 44:26

Oh , you guys don't know about the groove tube .

Speaker 3 44:28

No , we're old jesse before standard collective bs before psych anthony's always been the nicest dude and his band band's been great and Easy Uzis was one of the first big shows we ever played at the now defunct Open . Mike's rest in peace . I think Mike the bassist saw us and was like oh , y'all got to open for Easy Uzis and I was like okay , and yeah , it was the first show we played to like 80 or something people and they've always been really nice , really supportive . Anthony's a good dude .

Speaker 1 44:58

All right , cool , anthony , get your butt in here , mike says hello , I was there before today .

Speaker 2 45:03

I'm like , yeah , we have a psychic .

Speaker 1 45:04

He's like oh , yeah , I told those guys . I sent Mike what's up .

Speaker 2 45:07

Mike I love Mike . Every time I walk into Apocalypse he's like I thought I kicked you guys all out .

Speaker 3 45:16

He's hilarious rid of us .

Speaker 1 45:17

Yeah , all right , cool . Well , you guys are welcome back . Anytime you want to promote something , come on back . It was a pleasure meeting you guys , thank you thank you to be a sponsor or nominate a guest . Hit us up on instagram at local underscore celebrity underscore brevard . Until next time , goodbye .