12. Scarecrows, robots, Dogge doggelito, mumblerap, UFOs, angels & demons

Chris secures his home with a special DIY scarecrow and dives back into a UFO obsession from his thirties. Per receives a visit from a famous rapper and remembers the day he first accepted mumble rap. Also, are aliens actually angels and demons?

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What's the weather report now? It is gray and shitay.

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Yeah.

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Um, but you know, they say May showers brings June flowers.

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They do?

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Now that we've shifted. In the States, you'd get April showers brings May flowers.

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Who are all these people saying stuff like that?

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They.

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Yeah, but who are they?

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Them. All the folks in the system. Um, thank you. Hold us in. Uh, but we're back and it's it's getting nice out there, except for today, but that's cool, whatever. You take your winds where you can.

SPEAKER_07 2:25

Yeah, I mean, if you could see uh what we can see, uh you would look out my uh window here outside my balcony. Uh things are starting to change in the um the planned kingdom.

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I got some uh spring changes happening over my place. Yeah. Uh I am now at a w uh in a war against the birds. My ship my my views have shifted, my policies have shifted. Have you done something um terrible to them? No, we're in a state of defense now. Oh. Because we have a balcony that is being invaded by very pregnant doves. Oh. That are attempting at all hours of the night to start building nests. And I we can't have a colony of babies on an angry and defensive bird parents.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

You know, they really suck at building nests as well, the doves.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Well, I'm starting to get good at this.

SPEAKER_07 3:21

Yeah. I uh what hating on them?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

No, just saying like, hey, shoe bird, shoo, shoo, get away. Um no, we run you you hear these things.

SPEAKER_07 3:31

It's not like Well how do you know you're getting good at it?

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Well, no, no, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Because we've we've done a couple, you know, we're trying to be like nice and you know, just don't set up here, you know. We've we've you know left notes and whatnot. And um, a lot of it is just like if you hear them run out there and chase them away, but then someone told us to put vinegar out in the places where they're they're just starting to try and like drop sticks and nestle. And uh there, like they were just like, Yeah, okay, nice try, fellas. And then I was leaving the house the other day, and I just heard like a chorus of like you know, whatever that little like noise is they make, like kind of sounds like an owl. And um, I had all my shit, my shoes, my backpack. I was like late for something, and I was like, fuck, what are we gonna do? I don't have vinegar, it barely works. So I found a little like riding horse, you know, the horse head on a stick that kids have and they run around the house. And then I was like a scarecrow. Yeah, and I was like, this seems so stupid. Scare horse, let's go. And then I found a costume, uh, a Halloween mask in my kids' room, and I put a skeleton face on the horse and stuck it between two chairs. Dudes have not shown up in two days, three days. Oh and I was laughing, thinking, like, am I retarded or am I gonna find out they're retarded? They are retarded, and it like fucking has worked for three days, they've just not come around. So it means like they're smart enough to see that there's like a person's face.

SPEAKER_06 5:00

I bet the crows are laughing so hard. Yeah. They know it's not a person's face.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

They're like, we've seen this TV show before. But no, the doves are just they've there's a skeleton face about three feet off the ground, and they're just like not there now.

SPEAKER_07 5:12

Wow. That's good. Good job. Thank you. Uh I mean, me, I'm trying to get birds to come here. No matter the the race.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah, I mean, you're very like open borders. We're I'm building the wall.

SPEAKER_07 5:27

I am um I got a little camp here, and everyone's welcome.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

I just we our balcony is so small if we have like birds patching and like you know, defensive parental birds pecking. It's just like we don't have a balcony. But I was impressed with my silly tactic that seems to be working.

SPEAKER_07 5:47

Yeah, that's great. Um you should you need to take a picture of that. Oh, I will.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

It's ridiculous, it's stupid.

SPEAKER_07 5:56

I've always been fascinated by scarecrows because that's something you rarely see in this part of the world. I mean, where I'm from, down south Sweden, we have a lot of crops, yeah. But I don't think that we have a lot of problems with birds necessarily for the crops. I mean, sometimes you go and shoot a crow or something, as I told you about. Yeah, but yeah, we never see scarecrows. And I remember I was so into um into that when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

I mean, they're cool and scary. Yeah, I mean, there's Wizard of Oz, like it's in culture. They were in they're in like cornfields in the States. But the thing is, like, crows are smart, so it seems like this wouldn't work.

SPEAKER_07 6:40

Are they more advanced these days, scarecrows? Like, are they robots?

SPEAKER_02 6:44

I grew up next to next to farms, and I don't even remember scare there. Might have been scarecrows, but I think you just need something like moving, and they're just not gonna be there. But this, I feel like they just see like a skinless human head on a post. Skinless, yeah, that's right. And I think maybe not that. That's a dumb hater, right? Yeah, it's not like uh for our family. Like maybe our family, we don't want to scare the kids. But I I don't know. Like, uh what do you do if you we're not gonna like pick up a nest full of eggs and throw it, you know? Like you're kind of stuck held hostage if they like embed.

SPEAKER_07 7:20

No, no, short. Um, but can you Google quickly like uh like advanced scarecrow 26 or something? Modern scarecrows? Yeah. I haven't thought about scarecrows in a while. Um there's just like a Tesla bot just walking around the fields looking human.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Farm.

SPEAKER_07 7:43

Or if it's even a problem these days with um animals on crops.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

That's an actual place. Uh I mean there's theoretically, like if these photos are not fake, they're still out there doing the old school farmer costume um broom.

SPEAKER_07 8:01

Just a guy and uh damn it's so cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Um you don't need much. But what's funny is across the street from my house, these people have a a crow kite attached to their roof, and it's like constantly flying. So they're using the crow to scare the other guys.

SPEAKER_07 8:21

Yeah, but uh is that really a crow? Isn't that like something big and it's a big blackbird? It is, it looks kind of more like a raven, perhaps. Maybe a raven, yeah. Which I I don't know the difference, but Raven is slightly bigger. I feel like almost twice the size, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Maybe that's what it w I don't know, but it would it's like uh I don't know, it's cool to like conquer nature peacefully. Yeah. Instead of just hey, get out of here and then just feel like you got smoked.

SPEAKER_07 8:50

You think that there's like another big type of scarecrow for other you know situations? Uh I mean I've seen for birds? No, nothing, but maybe for humans. Let's let's uh let's think about it. What are some people you don't want in around your house?

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Criminals?

SPEAKER_07 9:13

Sure. That's a good example. Yeah. What does the scarecrow look like? A cop. Scarecrow cop.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Just face the cop on the outside of your house. See, not all criminals think like birds. They might just say, hey, that's like a statue. Although, hey, you know, you know what? They've done this to people. I've I've fucking where I grew up, they would have cop cars pulled over on the highway with dummies sitting in them. Yeah. And you're just like, whoa! Like you pump the brakes, and there's no one there, and you but you're like your knee-jerk reactions, you gotta slow down.

SPEAKER_07 9:52

There's the same thing in um when you drive in Croatia. I mean, I'm sure it's all over Europe, but sometimes you see these like fake traffic cops. Yeah. Just dummies with flags, just like this.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Yeah, and it throws you off enough just to pump the brakes.

SPEAKER_07 10:07

Yeah, but you can you can't see that they're like dummies until like, you know, a couple of meters away from them. Yeah. So every time you pull up like again, like we drive past them, you're like, oh shit. Yeah, we're fine. So uncanny. It's an uncanny valley with um things that move.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

And I remember when they they they started doing carpool lanes in the States. I remember a guy in Boston got pulled over because he had a fucking football taped to his passenger seat headrest. He was like the first guy to hack the like he basically made a dummy and he was just driving to work, like blasting through the carpool lane.

SPEAKER_07 10:43

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Uh, but then he made the news and uh the jig was up. So I guess there's like human scarecrows of different kinds.

SPEAKER_07 10:51

Yeah. Okay, so keep so to keep away the criminals, you know, from entering a building. Let's just, you know, s maybe somebody can sit on a bench or something, like a sleeping officer. Yeah. So you won't see the face.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

And there's also the um beware of dog sign.

SPEAKER_07 11:08

It's a classic.

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It makes people just second guess slightly.

SPEAKER_07 11:12

That's more of like a product though. I mean that's like a fake uh CCTV uh thingy.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

But I don't think many humans are gonna react to if they're walking towards you and there's like, oh it's a mannequin.

SPEAKER_06 11:27

No.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

It works because you're driving fast past something and you can't process it.

SPEAKER_07 11:31

This is true. But yeah. You know, when the robots are um um advanced enough in a couple years, maybe we just dress one up as a police officer and have him walk uh, you know, patrolling basically. I mean that's common. That's common. Yeah. Maybe it it will actually be a police officer, so yeah, that's funny. You could just pay a human uh to do it. Security, you mean?

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Or cops, or whatever, but you don't have to just be like, well, there's absolutely no other options. We must we must put a robot. We haven't been able to uh the think tank has come up with nothing.

SPEAKER_07 12:19

Um how much do you think they are though? How much is a Tesla bot?

SPEAKER_02 12:24

I don't know, like fucking twenty thousand dollars or something, sixty.

SPEAKER_07 12:27

I mean for anything. They can sell for anything. There are out there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

You know, and pouring people's water and stuff and and uh Calabasas, but I don't think they can like I mean you see some of them where they can you can push them down to get up, you can kick them and they get up. You see that but they would never win unless they have a gun or something, they would never like win in like a a game of dexterity, or you can just shake them and run around.

SPEAKER_07 12:54

Um you see the robot marathon in China?

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 12:59

Good stuff. Uh it's just I mean, it's not really a race, it's more like uh demo, yeah, of different robots, but it's so cool. It's just like pair of sh people sharing for like different kinds of droids, just jogging or like walking.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:15

And it's uh it's great. I'm uh into them.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

There used to be those things that we had, they we showed them in school, but they were on TV where they had it probably like in Vegas or something where they had um Battle Bots or something, so I don't know what the name was, but they just built Robot Wars, yeah. That was cool, and that's sort of where it should have ended.

SPEAKER_07 13:34

My friend had an idea of um building one of those uh robots again and have them like battling the Fedora robots.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Those things are hard.

SPEAKER_07 13:45

Because that would make you know it would be like a fair fight almost. More like a vigilante. I mean it wouldn't be a fair fight, but at least it would be a robot, you know, hurting that robot.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Yeah, no, I I like that. Like a kind of a vigilante, a superhero.

SPEAKER_07 13:58

Yeah. To stop them from like being in the way from people.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

Also just taking jobs.

SPEAKER_07 14:04

Yeah, true. That's also oh yeah, like uh um what's it called? Union vigilante robot. Yeah, like a crowd. Who helps the Fedora guys out?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

The human workers, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be great.

SPEAKER_07 14:19

It's like a it's like a robot from the union.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Yeah, or from that helps them to keep working, kind of like from the future to stop Skynet from going online?

SPEAKER_07 14:30

Sure. I mean To help the human I was just thinking it would be fun that the human Chris. The human race. Oh, you just miss said something. No, no, no, no. Oh shit. Yeah, you didn't know. Oh, I shouldn't have said that. No, no. Oh I mean listener Chris. I mean oh no, human Chris.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Uh no, my digital twin is in a data center somewhere, uh not yet released.

SPEAKER_07 14:54

Yeah. Well, good talk. Um I had um somewhat of a celebrity visit. At the shop. Yes. Um a couple of days ago I just got a call because my number is on the shop's you know, Google um profile. Maps kind of. Yeah, there's no other way. It's tough, tough times. You need to be um available all the time when you run a skate shop. Um but yeah, I just got a call and um it was uh a voice I recognized in the phone. And um immediately I thought, I mean, this must be a prank. Like um this is not the guy who calls the skate shop.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 15:54

Kind of. But uh yeah, he was very convincing, and I was like, why would somebody use his voice voice to kind of prank call the skate shop? And then I started, you know, um thinking that it might be some kind of new TikTok thingy or like um AI voice prank haul. Um my mind went back to the back in the days with soundboards. Shorty.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Good morning.

unknown 16:23

Good morning.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

How are you?

unknown 16:24

I'm alright.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

I want to ask you a bunch of questions. And I want to have them answered immediately. Okay. Who is your daddy and what does it do?

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Who?

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Who is your daddy?

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Who are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Who are you?

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Well, who are you?

SPEAKER_01 16:39

I'm Detective John Kimball.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Hey, this is a motel.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

I'm a cop, you idiot! I'm Detective John Kimball.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Well, if you're a cop, you idiot, come over here and talk to me, okay?

SPEAKER_01 16:51

You son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_07 16:53

But yeah, it turned out to be him actually, because um like an hour later he pulled up. Uh and he is a very, very famous person here in Sweden. He's more he's like a people's people's champ, kind of. Because he's like one of the first like gangster rappers, I guess you could call him. But he's also very safe, kind of. Like the lyrics are more like describing than it they are like threatening. It's not not Snoop, because he was actually in the game.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

No, but now it is he's like uh now.

SPEAKER_07 17:31

He's kind of like yeah, maybe like a Snoop. Yeah. And he's been all sorts of commercials and you know, kids' shows and game shows, because he he um he became famous in the the 90s, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Who is it?

SPEAKER_07 17:45

It's he called the dog uh doggelito. Hell yeah. Um but he's from like Puerto Rico, kind of or his um parents are from there. And him and his um friends from the same um area, they became very famous in the 90s. Still are to this day. The other uh part of the crew is um producers and he is like the rapper.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 18:13

And he pulled up, it's like um I'm gonna try to do his accent in English now, I guess. Okay, and I guess that has to kind of become like Mexican because I don't know the Latin.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

All the different ones?

SPEAKER_07 18:29

Yeah, it's hard for me to do Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_05 18:31

But it's anyway, he was just like, Yeah, I got this old board, man. Okay, we're Mexican.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Get close to Mexican.

SPEAKER_05 18:37

I got this old skateboard, man. It's missing a wheel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like T1. Do you kind of have wheels for the skateboard? But this is on a phone or when you still.

SPEAKER_07 18:48

This is from the phone. Okay. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but just come in and you know, we can do the whole service.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Oh, I can see this being a prank too. If you're not gonna do that, and I was like, that's just a stupid question.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Because he was just, you know, missing like a wheel. I only have three wheels on the deck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:04

And I was like, oh, that's cool. I mean, come in, I'll fix it. And then I was like, yeah, it's probably a prank, but I'm not gonna look like a stupid person. Yeah. You know, I'm just gonna be doing my thing, and if it's real, it's real. Don't worry about it. Anyway, he pulls up and it's just a blast. He is like he is an entertainer, but I didn't expect him to be like an entertainer for two, because it was me and my friend just sitting on the bench outside the shop. Yeah, you know, we were having a little beer. It was uh Thursday night. Tuesday on the bench. Yeah, no, it was a good time, like people were like stoked about the weather, and and he pulled up and I just um gave him like four four um secondhand wheels.

SPEAKER_05 19:50

Nice, and he's like, Oh my god, how can I thank you, man? We need to take a picture.

SPEAKER_07 19:57

Yeah, it's no, but he's got that, you know. Yeah, he's so but he was mad entertaining, and he just like there was war stories. He told me uh he just hooked up with Mob Deep like uh a couple of months ago when they did a show here. Like sick, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:14

I made a song with Mob Deep, man.

SPEAKER_07 20:17

And I was like, no way, like with who? With Havoc, and he was like, No, Big Noy, is it?

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Hell yeah, Big Noy's fire, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 20:23

And then he just showed me the clips from the studio, like him and Noid hanging out, and because he can fully rap in English if he wants. No, he he does Swedish. Oh, he does, yeah. He's always like Swedish, and it's like very because Swedish rap was you know, it is the first rappers were they sound sounded, sound, sounded very like it was hip-hop kind of.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

So yeah, what that makes sense.

SPEAKER_07 20:49

It was like more 80s rap than it was kind of pacing. Yeah, it was um very funky and like easy on the you know, it's easy to hear, basically. Yeah, yeah. 80s rap was very articulated, yeah, and and very easy to kind of uh you know understand the rhymes. Yeah, but um, yeah, he hung out for a couple of hours. No, a couple like two hours maybe almost.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

That's sick.

SPEAKER_07 21:18

Just mad stories, and people were you know stopping to take pictures with him because he was, you know. That's crazy. He's he has a very famous face here, and people are like, Oh, what are you doing here? Like, oh my god, what are you doing here in this part of town?

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Dude, when I first moved here, I saw like I was in the subway, and I just saw this guy like selling hot dogs on a poster of like uh what it was 7 Eleven or something. It was something simple like that, and I was like, Who the fuck? There's only reason he's in this is because he's famous. Like, whoever this guy is is not they didn't, he's not a model, and uh he had that big smile.

SPEAKER_07 21:51

Yeah, was it him?

SPEAKER_02 21:53

It was him, yeah. Turned out it was him.

SPEAKER_07 21:55

The thing is about him, I never met him before, but he's like a person that's if you're kind of in the you know not entertainment but if you're like uh in if you know people in this city you will meet him at an event eventually he gets around yeah I mean he's he um he's been around but I always thought that he was kind of like a sellout almost like oh my god he's taken all the jobs doesn't matter to him like he just he doesn't care but after meeting him I was just like I just think this guy likes to have fun and he's like a yessayer yeah he just like you know fuck yeah let's do a hot dog commercial I love hot dogs yeah and then he just does it and you know sends a bill that's cool and then the day after he's like I love cocoa powder let's do a cocoa powder commercial yeah well is there like the I mean it's can he like still rap and fill like he does music every day venues and shit or I'm not sure I don't think they're style they're not a group anymore I think um because uh the other two they I guess they they're just into producing stuff I don't know I'm not I'm like I'm not like the biggest fan but I know their music yeah um but yeah that was uh it was very funny and I got like a whole new um you know like I understood him a little bit better and that was so fun yeah I started checking their shit out um and I went back to like the early records just to figure out like what made them famous I guess because they're they're famous in the mid-90s.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah the Latin Kings the Latin oh yeah the group is called the Latin Kings or Latin Kings um and it's like dead on New York 90s hip hop yeah there's like I think I've made it to the second or third record and it's like beats are amazing.

SPEAKER_07 23:49

Aggressive dance hall there's just like a Jamaican guy rapping yeah um but it's all like the golden age of like when dance hall meshed into hip uh hip hoppers were trying to do the accent yeah then they get like a Jamaican guy on there and then suddenly it's a big yeah you can definitely tell it's like just a translation of everything that happened um in uh I guess in New York I guess.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

And I remember trying to listen to French hip hop in the 90s and there was that one guy MC Solar but I it's French could I was just like this is like grinding my gears when I listened to it. Like it couldn't I was like wanting to like it because I could tell the dude was good and he had like guru from gangstar was rapping with him um but the the sound never got me and then I thought oh Swedish is already tough on the American ear but then I thought this didn't sound like a break it sounded good um yeah and then uh there's songs where they're just rapping in Spanish. Yeah which actually was easier for me to understand yeah I I bet but you could hear like exact overlap to like the beat nuts or like funk dubious all these like Latin based New York rappers that had like kind of salsa tracks looping and um a lot of like Caribbean shit going through. I thought it was fucking great. It had like perfect not New York 90s hip hop and then it was like it just seemed like it was like step by step right there through the albums that I checked. And I could listen to it for recreation not just out of curiosity.

SPEAKER_07 25:23

Yeah. But I mean it's it's fun to to to um to to meet um those guys especially if he's not like because they've been around a long time like he celebrated like 40 years as an artist. That's pretty sick last year I think and um you know it's just like um but they never they were they weren't like in gangs I mean I think they were one they were around gangs I guess and a lot of those old school guys you know they had they had some tough times. Yeah but um back then I don't think there were a lot of gangs like that. I think there were like two major gangs maybe maybe in the suburbs. Yeah but it was still a tough time and it was almost it was at that time when people started kind of um writing movies and stuff about immigrant culture kind of and like oh my god you know you know about suburbs like I remember as a kid seeing movies that kind of depicted people like him and I was like oh wow yeah you know I had no idea yeah if you're not in Stockholm you would have you you wouldn't know anything about these things.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

It's so funny and he's kind of poster boy for a lot of those it's so inverted from the states like the cities are where the gangs are or you mainly and like the suburbs is like the crime is just dis disillusioned middle class you know like lower middle class no hope and then in the cities it's just fucking nuts with gangs. But here I my lady was always trying to explain she's like you don't understand the suburbs are not where you really want to go if you can avoid it. And then I start to see like the cities are like the castle wall and the crime doesn't get in very easily and out there it's just chaos. Yeah um which is the absolute inverse of the states.

SPEAKER_07 27:25

Yeah but it's still I guess I guess it's still like territorial with neighbor neighbor it's more like neighborhoods. Yeah. And I guess you could call these suburbs neighborhoods because of the size of the city you know what I mean? It's not it's 20 minutes with a train is not like outside of the city necessarily.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:48

When you think about it.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

But you can't but Stockholm in particular is so protective of its real estate like you can't even buy places it's so hard to get in. Yeah they keep it so like it just cycles recycles into itself yeah so it's very hard to get in so there's you can't like integrate too much. No it's difficult. Um but um but they're called the Latin Kings which do you know that's a that's like a real very muscular national organized crime gang in the States.

SPEAKER_07 28:18

Were they active in the 90s? Real fucking active oh shit um that's why when someone told me I was like you can't name your fucking like they named the group after those guys like that's like naming you know like I got a rap group called the fucking Southside Crips that that's how you know how romantic it was yeah with rapping in in I guess back then. Not that I know but I mean I can understand the mindset like oh my god we're like just like that gang kind of yeah I mean they're but we're here in Sweden.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Sure I get and there's like you know the Latin American and experience the I mean he's Latin American essentially he's Puerto Rican um which that is that um so I get it when you just need an identity you gotta get something that's got a ring and it's like Latin Kings that's a great name. Yeah. But they were I mean I think they're still very active and they were not to be fucked with um they're from Chicago and then they spread everywhere and they're big and real big in New York City. They were like when the Crypt and the Bloods were famous that was the there maybe been like the Aryans or something but that would have been the other monster gang that like ran the cities and ran New York and you'd see the graffiti everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 29:29

He told me he had a cousin in um QB Queensbridge. That would be an area where they would be and he visited him frequently maybe that's where he's absorbing stuff but it's all I mean it's perfect for like a record cover Lion Kings and no one here would know. So I mean it's you know whatever it was fun and I mean he actually asked me I was gonna say that earlier but he asked me like hey you thought it was a prankle right when I called you and I was like yeah I did and he's like everybody thinks so that's it but I'm just a guy who calls you I'm Mexican yeah I'm sorry guys I just this is the only way I can my name Jeff speak to him like speak as him sorry but yeah that was a fun visit you what do you get like the shop skate shop you get like all types of yeah you get a broad spectrum of he brought he brought another person that was also very famous from who's that in the group um Tito from Infinite Mass.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

And I mean these these guys huh was he in Latin Kings?

SPEAKER_07 30:42

No he was in infinite Infinite Mass which was like another really big group at the time and they were just hanging out they were going to the studio and stuff but since they're older they're now they're also like super humble and he's like oh my god I love this shop like yeah uh tell me about the community these days how how is it you guys doing good this is not what I was expecting you to ask but yeah you're on the ground you're in the show and that's it's so nice to meet um people like that now when you're like older and they are also older so you can actually you know speak a little bit yeah and ask the right questions and you know go a little bit deeper.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

What do young people think of this guy?

SPEAKER_07 31:29

I think that if you're into the four elements of hip-hop somehow uh is it four yeah break dancing b-boying mceying DJing graffiti slanging yeah graffiti but even that term is like from fifty twenty five years ago yeah but uh if you like that I guess you know who he is and you I mean some of the younger guys they're into Latin Kings so they were super stoked so it'd be like being in a Nas or something yeah as a younger person like not like a classic hip hop like a classic but not that cool just like oh he's a symbol of but you could it's like we don't it's not current but it's like classic rock where it's like this is still fucking it is it's like an of course yeah yeah like um so that happened and it was fun I gave him the hat I was supposed to give you sorry well now we've got beef the Nick's hat now we got beef because he was like hey you know my favorite colors he doesn't speak like that but it's like I'm really into blue and orange and I was like you know what I have a little gift for you and he was so stoked that's awesome yeah sorry guy and he told me the blue and orange is um is not Nick's colored it's from the science in the in the project kind of the key the Queensbridge sign he showed me it was like yeah it's blue and orange that's why I like it did you know this did he hit no I never see I've never seen I mean I haven't been to the Queensbridge projects but I've been to like area um just Google like Queensbridge projects sign or something because he told me like no blue and orange is not white blue and orange is not from the Knicks man it's from the signs I mean it's from the fucking Knicks not to him it's not Projects Projects sign.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Let's see what they got let's see what this dude's what kind of smoke he's blowing up your ass son of a bitch they showed me the the sign look how beautiful that is no it's a good sign it's a good sign um but that's sort of like I don't I mean that's probably been there for 50 40 50 years but the Knicks uh it's just like a like you gotta go the Knicks have had that color as long as I've seen color TV footage of them. Um but that's kind of awesome I mean I've been around at least a hundred years since it was a radio but it's a good time oh it's killer yeah it's killer that should why he liked it I'm not saying that Knicks uh stole the Q uh QB uh color codes yeah but um just a little um that's probably a rabbit hole of little fact of uh of that stuff well that's fun I like the guy I mean other than the fact that the thing is like I'm not really a Knicks fan so that's okay I'll let it slide I like the the hometown stuff the American stuff but uh I feel like he's already got so much joy from that gift.

SPEAKER_07 34:36

Yeah um it was fun I got some other stories for you but that's off the camera.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Those days of hip hop look how far we have fallen. Yeah I could tell that the guy was like good at rapping from just hearing it in a foreign language to me. Like I was like this dude's probably slick.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

He has his own style kind of I mean at least in Swedish and if you were one of the pioneers within Swedish rap which he is I would say yeah maybe not the first one but first big one he was kind of the first to do the essay kind of the the the Latin West Coast I think maybe he was one of the first to do kind of that um sound. Yeah and maybe he's not he maybe he hasn't necessarily got uh the most advanced rhymes or the like the deepest lyrics but he's like he's a character and it works and he's just having fun and uh I understand more about him now and his whole artistry.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

But if you put him side by side with like NBA Youngboy I would say okay one guy could probably read that would be Doggo.

SPEAKER_07 35:57

I'm not sure but or or has a or like can hold a conversation yeah I mean he's but he's not like on opioids with the Uzi in his backpack yeah it's just like a different person. There's a craftsmanship and it hasn't I don't think that that has anything to do with the music they do.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

It's more like the situation they are in no I feel like there's no no I'm gonna get into the thing where it's like there was craftsmanship instead of uh moaning over your own track on stage yeah I guess I don't know it depends I'm also into young boy so you know dude you are a pile of shit no I'm just not as old as you so I understand that music can be different but still be good. There's a thing called art. Yeah yeah MBO Youngboy is not art.

SPEAKER_07 36:47

I agree I agree but I can still I can understand both um types of rap um I think it's apples and orange I think it needs to just be called something else I used to be where you are I used to be just like you and then you ascended old man take a look at your life I'm a lot like you um and then what what what what changed me you ask yes that's what I'm trying to do what what happened to me how how did I become to uh how did I um start liking bumble rap mumble rap yes not bumble mumble I um long time ago I did another brand like more of a streetwear thingy um and we got invited through hypebeast to go to Vegas to one of their like trade shows or to have like a booth in a trade show under the Hype Beast flag kind of so we went there we brought our stuff and um just hung out for a few days in Vegas that's fine and on this trade show obviously um you know all the talent from Vegas shows up to you know yeah try and get free samples try to get to know people spread the word you know yeah hook me up kind of with your straight shit with your you shake hands you pass things out you'd get free shit yeah but and then we met this group of guys who were active in the rap scene in Vegas. Okay. And I was just like I never had I mean who knows anything about Vegas except for the casinos and stuff. Yeah it was like I never thought that people you know lived there and did things there. Lots of people I know but it's it's I forget it all the time. Yeah. But yeah and they were like uh coming to hang out with us and second day they were you know coming back because they had like free passes. They were just walking around.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 38:46

But they were super nice and they invited us to one of their shows in the I mean in another part of town I guess outside outside show. Just like a jam almost and um we went we just took a cab there in the in the night and bought some you know beers and and we watched the show. And at that time this is maybe 2016 or something mumble rap was you know it was starting to become like it was starting to take over kind of and we were not into it we were just listening to like screw Houston stuff old school stuff Memphis stuff at the time we're super into it so we were very anti that whole movement but that night I kind of understood that you know it's their youth are like constantly you know trying to revolutionize things they're trying to protest against things that has been normal for a long time and they just this kind of discovered this whole new genre and start and you know they're part of developing it as well you know bringing their own little touch to the to the table kind of and you know after a few hours just standing there watching people in in the kind of peak moment of this genre or at least in the beginning I was like I understood that like of course that it's normal for them because they're trying to rebel against everything that is boring. Just push it. Yeah yeah and uh it wasn't it was like um it was a good good thing to understand that and I think that maybe you need to see be you know inside the scene to sure actually understand that it's real so real for them kind of yeah and after that I was like just like accepting everything embracing it yeah embracing rap because I know it's not like it's not about them trying to make things easier or you know they actually love it and they're trying to perfect it kind of so there is a craft you're saying I'm say definitely really yeah it's hard to it sounds very different but it's still like it seems like it's just it's more the production and and it's sort of like you just throw somebody in front of the production who's like got a little charisma and that's sort of like the the the arithmetic yeah because the production you can tell as some of it like the sounds are just crazy and you're like this is good people are gonna love this shit. Yeah. Um but I think it's also about you know when the world is changing you don't want to be somebody who kind of you want to under you want to understand it and be part of it rather than being like a negative towards it. Sure. Like imagine if you're a rapper you're like 16 in 2016. Yeah you don't want to be the only guy in Vegas like no I'm I'm like you know I'm more into mob deep so I'm just gonna do like boom bap. Yeah but have fun guys like you could be that guy you could be that guy and that would be cool but it wouldn't you know it wouldn't make you more true or real just because you're doing something older or something I think if you like it you can like it but not just because it's and there are lots of these people yeah but I'm just saying that if you want to be part of something and and like you know understand it and change it kind of I mean I'm a man of standards. I I understand it's high standards. I hear you but there are great great people and uh I'm sure there's like plenty of good talent out there.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

I just I because I I sort of scan it randomly and I'm just like I don't even know what I'm looking at. Like um as far as I think it's I think it's like explaining it as hip hop it's something else and that's fine. Yeah it's something else um but I did notice a decline in live acts unless you have like Travis Scott budgets. What I see in the last 20 years is sort of like and it's with all all hip hop I think it's like very okay to just play your track and just sort of like occasionally say the words over your own voice that's being played which I think is like come on man.

SPEAKER_07 43:26

Yeah that's rough I mean yeah the genre kind of became easier just to jump into and kind of um blend in like live hip hop yeah no I I 100% agree with you. But that's not you know there's still some some golden stuff out there.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

I think it's the producers. I think the producers are like anchoring the whole operation yeah um because yeah I don't know but you get stage shows like you get like a con Yeah, or Travis Scott, and like you do you get a theater performance. Yeah. That's different, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 44:06

Um well. I felt um I feel like I'm always ranting. One of them, one of them, that crew, he's a nice skater, actually.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Well, who was the crew?

SPEAKER_07 44:16

I don't know if they had like a they I'm probably they probably had a crew name, but local. Um one of the rappers we call Big Motherfucking Tony. Big guy. Uh and then uh the star of the crew at the time, he was called Leslie Flame. And he was uh the names never disappoint. And then um and then they're like you know, fashion guy, but like the just uh I don't know what he if he rapped, but he was a skater, and that's how we bonded. He moved to LA, he skates for FTP and um Oh wow um hanging out with Antoine. I wonder who it is at the moment Kevin is called Kevin uh the fuck great skater.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

His name was which one was he? Laflame?

SPEAKER_07 45:04

No, he was not a rapper. Oh it was in that posse kind of okay, so we got scarecrows, we got hip hop. Yeah. Um we got aliens.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

Do you guys have aliens in Sweden? Aliens? Is there like is anything on the news here saying aliens are coming?

SPEAKER_07 45:25

Uh if you are into aliens, alien, which I am, yeah, then you need to follow the um the podcast, UFO Sweden. And it's pretty funny because oh it's not funny at all, it's very goddamn serious. Yeah. But this guy who is um running this podcast and also UFO Sweden the um the group or company, I guess. He's sitting on the world's biggest archive of um of UFO reports. He's like he's like the um the leader of like the world UFO gang kind of.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

What's he saying about America right now?

SPEAKER_07 46:05

Uh they're only documenting Swedish things. Uh because like every week they have like sightings and then they read that report and speak about it and like compare it to um you know similar cases. Okay. Um but sometimes he um speaks about like more international stuff.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Yeah, I don't think he Oh he he knows what's going on.

SPEAKER_07 46:29

Yeah, because I saw I saw some of the you know the images and videos that that got leaked by uh the Trumpster.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Not leaked, I think they're just like here's the thing. I mean, yeah, dropped. Yeah. New drop. Uh I think they're really trying hard to be on be on the side of the Americans with this one and just be like, here's the next shiny thing you gotta like chase.

SPEAKER_07 46:52

You see that Sea Star thingy? Yeah. That was cool.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

Yeah, I just I'd like it's if the government's spoon feeding you. Yeah. I think it's like because no one really gives a shit.

SPEAKER_07 47:04

What's your experience with being spoon-fed? Uh like do you remember anything that you kind of ate up and then later understood was just crap?

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Uh I mean, as far as like what the government and everybody's doing, yeah, like Iraq.

SPEAKER_07 47:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

It was like the first experience where I was like, that never made any sense.

SPEAKER_07 47:20

But that's a classic. That like even that we know about Iraq being like fake, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

And then I guess there was like the Vietnam War.

SPEAKER_07 47:29

Yeah, also uh bit of a classic. But I'm talking more like day-to-day stuff.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Uh giant pandemic.

SPEAKER_07 47:36

Yeah, sure. Um new one coming, by the way. New drop.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

Yeah, which I don't think is gonna take because they they cashed their chips on the first fake pandemic.

SPEAKER_07 47:45

Yeah, yeah. People are kind of ready for this.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

It's a little bit of a boy cried wolf type of thing. Um, it's funny. It's like all hell's breaking loose, and you know, suddenly it's like, listen, we are gonna drop the biggest amount of UFO information we have ever done. It's the only thing, it's the right thing to do. So just get ready. And that's like been for weeks, and then it's I don't know, like every time in with video stuff, you're like, this could be fucking anything. This could be some guy in his basement, like in the under the Pentagon making videos. Like it's just funny how much they're putting into it, and the reaction is sort of like, yeah. Like just a big sigh, like a collective sigh from the country. Um, no, I think I I it's fun to it's fun to look into. I don't think if the government is saying it, then I'm like, oh, here we go. This is gonna, they're gonna fucking lead us by the nose until we care we don't care about anything that's like actually important.

SPEAKER_07 48:47

That's why you need to um to follow like alternative media for things you like, or that you're actually can think a little bit more on. I love this Swedish uh podcast, it's like the cutest, it's like our show. I don't know. I think I have like a 200 listeners or something. You call me cute? Uh I'm calling us cute. But um that's how kind of you know that you can trust the information because they're like being very careful with it and respectful. Yeah. Um, they're not using it to change people's minds, they're just like it's their interest. He's got a uh in Sweden we have this like radio, yearly radio show that's called Sommerpotana, like the Summer Talkers. And every every year they select like 10 or 20 people to tell their story basically about their life, about you know, it could be anything from Nobel Prize winners to like famous actress. But he had an episode last year that was amazing. Which and he tells um the story about how how what how did this happen? Like, how did I become like a professor that obsesses about you know space and UFOs for my like my whole life? And it's just a guy who's into like progressive music, uh marijuana and the sky, you know, and now he's like the leader for the UFO. I mean it's pretty on-the-nose triangulation, definitely, but it's you understand that he's not bullshitting, kind of yeah, it's just it's what he uh he's into and he is very respectful about it and logical. He's not a freak, he's just like he's a scientist kind of but um I had a big UFO phase. You did in my 30s. Oh, 30s? That's a bit late there, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Well, I was like doing more important things before that. Yeah, I had a lot of time on my hands, so I went in.

SPEAKER_07 50:40

Uh um, any like any of the things that I've got to do. I think it was just fun.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

I think it was fun. I think it like could have replaced video games for me or something. Yeah, I think it was fun, it's like entertaining, it's fun.

SPEAKER_07 50:51

But that's I mean, there's a big difference, sorry to interrupt you, but it's a big difference between having fun with information and eating it up kind of and letting it you know control your reality.

SPEAKER_02 51:04

Well, you don't want it to control your reality.

SPEAKER_07 51:06

No, but I mean if you're having fun with UFOs, it's one thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Well, I wasn't like playing with them.

SPEAKER_07 51:11

No, no, no, but I mean I'm talking about like how you uh what you do with information.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Yeah, I was reading and digesting it.

SPEAKER_07 51:20

Yeah. So um and what's your take?

SPEAKER_02 51:23

I've not sold on it. I think it's like a it's a it's exciting, but it's just muddled in so much shit that like you're just like you can't get a straight look at anything. Everything is just like leaning on a house of cards a little bit. Um I'm not against the idea of it, like uh, but I think I had a phase and I was like reading and watching documentaries and really digging and like ancient civilizations and you know, the aliens that came down and like supposedly bred with humans and search of and use the you know the humans as a slave race to harvest gold to bring back to their planet, yeah. The the Nordic blue aliens, and I was deep, uh, but it didn't like it was just it was just a rabbit hole, it was fun. Like it wasn't like I was uh it was dictating any anything in my life. No, um, but it sort of just sort of like never hit anything concrete, no like concrete pay dirt. And it was interesting, and it's interesting to like stand back 10 years later and see it cycle through American media, and it's sort of like everyone was already talking about this, like it's not that big a deal. And like clearly, I don't I mean I don't know. I I'm I'm not against it, I don't know everything, so I'm not like this is stupid. It's just I think the way it's coming to Americans right now is this this contrived fucking pile of shit.

SPEAKER_07 52:46

It's uh it seems like it's you know failing, it's not doing what it's supposed to do with um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

I think like um nobody's looking at Hollywood for this anymore. So they're like, we gotta have some fucking storytelling narrative to lead the masses. And uh like you know, CIA and the Pentagon are like deep in Hollywood for the last its entire existence, so they can like shove these things into culture. But now no one fucking cares. So now they're just like, hey, it's us, here's our badges, here's the files. Yeah. Um so I don't know. I it's it's so fun to like read the read sci-fi and read books about aliens and and like look at these like kind of fringe documentaries, but it's also I feel like a little cosplay, which is cool. I mean, you're not hurting anybody, it's like intellectually stimulating, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 53:40

It's like the big uh but there was no moment that changed you. There was not nothing escalating the UFO. You know what?

SPEAKER_02 53:47

It's like when you realize you've been staring at other people's videos for so long and you're lacking your own experience firsthand experience, you're kind of like, Well, what the fuck? I'm just watching a thing.

SPEAKER_07 53:56

But that's what you need to go all in. Like most of these people who kind of dedicate their lives to it, yeah, they are people who saw something and they were not crazy. My dad had a big UFO face, yeah. And he's he's like a doctor, he's a smart person, but in his teens he saw two stars changing places, yeah. And then he was just like, okay, now I know. Yeah, but I'm not gonna go crazy, I'm just gonna, you know, look at the stars for a while, and then I'm just gonna wait until they arrive. Yeah, you know? And um, and this other guy, he was part the UFO guy that I spoke to about. He was part of one of the biggest, you know, uh sightings in Sweden back in the 70s or something.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

What would that be? What was the vibe?

SPEAKER_07 54:41

It was like a light phenomena that um it was over like like mechanical, uh something very strange that lots of people reported at the same time, and there was no explanation, and he just couldn't, you know, forget about it. So I'm just I'm just waiting for that. Same with ghosts and stuff. I'm just uh I'm here for all of it, but I need my thing.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

People think they could be like angels and demons. Uh who? Aliens, yeah, yeah. Um it's hard to, I mean, it's yeah, it's like it could be any. I think I think what would re- I reacted to in the last like month was like that they're trying to get like a trigger to make people nuts, and it was funny that like everyone's like, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 55:25

Who are trying to?

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Our government, yeah, is clearly like every six months trying to make us insane. Yeah. As like that's the policy. Yeah, and this one I think people are like, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_07 55:34

If they've been here, uh it's yeah, like we're all like everyone is drained now from the pandemic and world war, so it's it's not working, and that's they didn't expect that.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

So that sort of kicks the knees out on like a large portion of like what's coming to us, is like, okay, this is part of a different thing. But no, it could I I've I've looked into like the angels and demons thing, like there's like the biblical stories of like uh angels coming down to like breed with humans, and that gets fucking crazy. That's fine. Um, and then you know, there's the all types of like ancient alien stuff.

SPEAKER_07 56:10

Um, it's my favorite my favorite theory is that they are here, but they are in on a different plane, kind of that not traveling from somewhere, that's why there's yeah, you know, you never see the ships and stuff, yeah. But they are here, it's like when you do acid, all these people meet them when they're doing DMC. Oh, they're DMZ entities, um, but so they are already here, or like amongst us or in us, or whatever, yeah. But they cannot, you know, physically manifest here. Yeah, that's why you never see them, but they are like again. This is something that I like to think about that I believe in. It's it's interesting. I hope we're not coming across as like a conspiracy pod.

SPEAKER_02 56:50

But I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_07 56:52

But they are like enlightened beings, right? They could be, or they could not be. So it's very hard for them to but the theory is that once you are like um physically you're not longer in a body or something, and you're kind of um you know uh up there in nirvana or whatever, it's hard for you to come back physically. Yeah. So you need you can only show yourself when other people are more enlightened, or just open to it, yeah, in some fashion. So if you're tripping, like you can actually meet them, and there's whole you know, there's a whole like like encyclopedia of different, you know, races and beings and languages and stuff. Yeah. Which people all they all meet them when they're tripping and you know, yeah, documenting that or you know, retelling their trips. Yeah, I mean that kind of gets into like that could be the spirit world or that could be so I mean maybe they're not on different planets, but they are on different planes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

I like that theory. Yeah, it could be. I mean, it's it's interesting. I but I also look at like, oh, you know, the US government, and I'm only speaking about the US government because it's the only I wasn't able to pay attention to Sweden, but they're you know, the theory that they've been working with them for decades, and then I look at like the absolute incompetence of NASA, and I'm like, you mean to tell me these guys are like working next door to those guys?

SPEAKER_07 58:17

Like they must be having such a good time, Galians, just like, hey, you want to go and like hang out with those stupid.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Yeah, like look, they had they're using an HP pavilion to like fly something like made out of tinfoil. Like, this will be fun. Let's check it out. You know, like it did like there's so like when you start.

SPEAKER_07 58:36

Oh, how fast are they flying? Oh, they're flying like oh, they're trying out light speed.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

Yeah, it's if when you stand back and look at all like if if aliens have been working with the government in secret, and then you look at the government like saying, like, here's NASA, and it's like NASA's a train wreck. And then you mean to tell me like they stand kind of side by side as like one technology is being used by the other. Yeah. Um, but it's fun, that's all I can say. It is fun. Um, but I I love that they they thought this was like their golden ticket to make everyone nuts and distracted, and it's sort of just everyone just was like, Yeah, I don't know, who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_07 59:18

Yeah. I love aliens, and I hope that they hear this episode so if they come to Earth, you know, and they'll be kind to me.

SPEAKER_02 59:25

I wonder if they're not smart.

SPEAKER_07 59:27

Maybe that's why we are the smart ones.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

That could be. Maybe we have to like dumb down ourselves to be open to them. Yeah. We got bigger Maybe after this episode we will be. I mean, I'm this is good. I like talking about this stuff. Um you know, um, have you ever seen like the biblically accurate angel?

SPEAKER_07 59:54

Um yeah, I've you mean the fuck your mind up. It's not a guy with wings. No, I mean the tall head one.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

No, no, it's um they're something. Like they're the most heavy metal thing you'll see. They're not the kind of people.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:09

Um it doesn't look yeah, it's like um it's like that I've seen that image, but I can't describe it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

It's like that uh accurate. It's like one of the things in the video that got dropped.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:23

Um it's like a like a star symbol.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

It's nightmare fuel.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:27

Oh, perfect. Just what I need. Yeah, here we go. Let's take a look at that and wrap it up. You are stressed right now. Yeah, I'm scared.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

No, it's this stuff. Oh.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:38

It's like But who I mean, this is like again. Who are they? Who said this? This is in the Bible.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

It's been I'm just saying, like, these are things that they talked about like two, three thousand years ago. And all those rotate. That's what's an angel? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:53

That looks like the eye of uh what's it called in Zoran?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:57

Yeah, yeah, perfect. Um but then it gets to like some of the shit in the videos look like this stuff. Like there's that weird X-Wing Starfighter thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:08

Um you think maybe one of the biblical um illustrators had a mental thing going?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

Well, there's not a lot of pictures in the Bible. No, it's just words.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:25

No, I mean, is this something is like a sketch artist who wrote.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

This is just someone reading the description and drawing it.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:32

Uh-huh. Do you think that the biblical sketch artist?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

I mean, it this is like if you read the description, you'd be like, oh, I think it's probably close to that. Like it's describing circular moving things with eyes everywhere. Like sort of almost mechanical. Um, and then some of the stuff in those videos look bizarrely badly shaped and more kind of like this. Not not very aerodynamic.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:01

Yeah. But then they move like okay, so the angels are here. Maybe that's good. I I can't wait to see.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

We can use some help, possibly.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

But um yeah, we'll have to see how this plays out. They're supposed to keep dropping stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:15

You think the angels will be pissed if we put that picture on a t-shirt?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

I don't think so. I can't speak for them.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:24

No, you can't, and you shouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

But I think uh it's just an interesting image. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:31

I think it's an interesting image. It feels cursed.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

No. Just seeing what you hear. Yeah. It's just words translated to a drawing. This is true. Um, but they're sick looking, they're cool. They're great. I'm leading you out into the deep water right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:46

Yeah, I can feel like my paranoid schizophrenia just kicking in a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

I can see the knuckles turning red.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:55

Yeah, I'm just like, oh fuck. Uh it's time to speak about cars and girls again.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:01

Well, we'll be back to this. Basic stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:03

We'll be back to this. I don't want to tax you too hard.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:05

Yeah, I mean you're attacking me now. No in the deepest mode.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

I'm encouraging it. Okay. I'm trying to help you see some stuff, dog.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:13

You're trying to see all the all the angles. Yeah, all the angles of the angels. Yeah. That's cool phrase. I think that's all I can handle for today. And uh, thank you for listening.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

That was good. Anyone that hung on this long, buy yourself a mug.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:33

Yeah. You deserve it. Or subscribe and get a mug for free. If you remember. It's a little better. It's a little more cost effective. Um I will um see you next week. And you will see us.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

Have a good one. Thank you.