S1 Ep9 | Ben Foster: The Keeper Collab

Episode 9 of the Guuuzan show brings together two greats between the posts, as the cycling Goalkeeper Ben Foster joins the pod. The defensive duo talk about their days playing the EFL & Premier League, their ventures into podcasting, and how their lives have changed since retirement. The Brit also gives his insights on the city of Atlanta from his own adventures filming for his Podcast ahead of the World Cup. If you have any spots to recommend for our international friends, let us know in the comments!

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Goalkeepers are the best of the bunch. The best of the bunch. That's how it works, all right?

SPEAKER_01 0:04

The vibe of your skin is with the parking snow too. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, so if you do it.

SPEAKER_04 0:07

So you do. I promise you, you go and look at the car park outside. The strikers will have the fancy Ferraris, right? Then you'll work your way back. Goalies will have like bog standard, whatever. Like, yeah, it's fine. Don't care.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

Welcome back to another episode of The Goozan Show. I'm your host, Braggazan. Sat next to me as always, Joe Freihoffer. And we have a very, very special guest in the room with us in the studio, all the way from the UK, Mr. Ben Foster. Ben, thanks for joining us, man. Absolute pleasure to have you on. Go on, Ben.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Incredible intro of that, mate. The Goozan show. I love it, mate.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

I love it. You've been over here for a day and a half, two days.

SPEAKER_04 0:48

How's it been? Busy. Really, really busy. Incredible, though. Fantastic. We're having a lovely time. Um, we were at the stadium yesterday. We went on the roof. We went on the roof. Um, first person in history to ever ride a bike on the roof. Let's go. Uh you actually sat on the back of the bike as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

And what did you call it?

SPEAKER_04 1:04

What? Uh it's a Brompton. No, no, no. A backey. A backey.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

A backey. A little backey with the boys. Hold on a second. Okay. Yeah, not better, right? I got it in the locker. I want to know your first time on the roof, right? We'll take a look here at how the experience was. How did Brad do with the heights? I mean, any sign of being rattled at all? Any more than a state?

SPEAKER_04 1:22

And he hit it really, really well. So we we did it, so Brad was already up there waiting for me. Um so I've walked out on the roof and he looked like a Bond villain, sort of like surveying his city. Uh he had his shades on looking an absolute million dollars. Um, and and if he was scared, then he he hit it so well. Honestly, he hit it so so well. But it was amazing being up there, honestly. The views were just beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Look there, there he is, me on the bike there. Love it. First in history.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

How's the bike getting up there?

SPEAKER_04 1:48

Uh so uh my friend Tom, who I do the podcast with, who I do my podcast with, he had to traipse it up. I'm gonna say maybe 2,000, 3,000 steps. Absolutely. Easy 2,000 steps.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

And that bike, I mean, Tom, that must have weighed what, probably 150, 180 pounds. I mean, absolute beast. Absolute beast to carry that bike up there. Uh, it's probably about 15 pounds. Um, it it was tremendous. It was tremendous.

SPEAKER_04 2:13

Yeah, so yeah, that was just part of the day in the morning. We went for breakfast, went for proper southern hospitality breakfast as well. Uh, what did I have? Grits. Uh, I had biscuit and fried chicken with like a lovely little gravy on it. Um, fried green tomatoes. Oh, well, honestly, I'm blown away. Fried green tomatoes are a thing. I'm gonna start doing them at home. Um, and then we went to the brewhouse cafe, uh, watched some of the Champions League football that was on last night, got to meet a load of cool people. Yeah, I've had a great time so far.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

That's that's amazing. That's amazing. It's uh, you know, for for maybe some of our newer listeners that that aren't necessarily football fans, give them a back uh a background of of who you are. Okay. I mean, obviously I know who you are, you know, Joe knows who who you are. The the average soccer fan knows who you are. Yeah, but for all of those that don't know, who who is Ben Foster?

SPEAKER_04 3:01

Uh so yeah, I was a footballer, goalkeeper like yourself, best position on the pitch. Goalies are normally the good ones, the good guys, the nice guys, the glue of the change in rooms, what we call ourselves. Um so yeah, I played what, had a good sort of 20-odd year career, played for I started at Stoke City, then I went to Man United, played for Wrexham, Watford, Birmingham, West Brom, uh, finished at Wrexham again, played for my country, what, eight or nine times. Um, so yeah, a fantastic career. And then towards the end of my career as well, I kind of transitioned into uh what would be the next part of my career, really. Um, we started the podcast, I started a YouTube channel, uh, really jumped headfirst into the media world, and that's why I'm here today doing stuff with you, lovely people.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Does it does it all, man? Does it all? And by the way, he's definitely downplaying his career because I was gonna say, yeah. I mean, listen, I remember when you first moved to Birmingham, I was living in the city center, right? And and I was over playing for Villa. Um, and I remember I was living in the city center. There were apartments up top, there were restaurants and and shops down below. And I remember seeing, looking down over the balcony, I was like, oh, that's that's Ben Foster. Oh my gosh. You know, and I was just I was in awe and I was like, I can't really talk to him though. He plays for the other team, the big rival. But I was like, they were big rivals actually. Yeah, huge rival.

SPEAKER_04 4:15

Yeah, it's a big old rivalry it was, yeah. Massive. So you were living in the mailbox at the time, right? Oh, it's lovely in the mailbox, really, really lovely. It's got a great shop called Harvey Nichols for yeah, it's expensive in there. Villa money. It's Aston Villa. I definitely I was just walking away.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

And that was before the party expands were hidden too by the different tax brackets. I didn't I didn't go into the store, I just walked by. Oh, that would be nice, that'd be nice, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Do you remember facing off against this guy? Anything in the tunnel, and you start him off of four Red Bulls like this, just actually blacked out into the brick into a video. Do you remember anything of of facing him back in the day?

SPEAKER_04 4:46

I always remember when we came up against Americans. Americans, uh like I love going to America. I've always loved coming to America because I just feel everybody's a little bit um nicer, a bit more outgoing, um, easy to get on with and speak to. Um and so whatever no matter who I play against, the goalkeepers always make a point of going for each other, like a little sort of like high five, a little bit of a manhood sort of thing. So that's all I really remember is just knowing he's a nice guy. I haven't got to ask if he's a nice guy, I just know he's a nice guy. It's as simple as that. Um yeah, Twitchy, twitchy Brad Gates. And I was just buzzing to be there. So I was just like, ah, this is unburdened. But listen, again, like Brad's doing the same thing, though. He's underselling himself. He like Brad played what how many games do you play for Villa? Nearly 200 games, you know what I mean? You've played an awful lot of football. How many times have you played for your country? 64, is it? No, someone's been on the Wikipedia page. Yeah, love. So yeah, so amazing. Brad's a legend as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

We've been saying that too. He's been too humble so far. You know, we got like that. You gotta have your own episode at some point where we go deep cut Premier League memory. It's like, come on. Come on now, look at the logo.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Look at where we are. Speak speaking speaking of Birmingham City. I remember we were playing, we were playing you guys in, I want to say it was a cup game, yeah, right. And I don't know if I actually ever told you the story, but I'm sat, I'm I'm sat on a bench. Um, we end up, I think, winning one-nil. No, it was maybe we Where was I at Birmingham over there? No, I was at St. Andrews. Yeah, okay. It was at St. Andrews. Um, and I think actually we m we may we either drew or we lost. Uh I don't know. Was it a night? You guys scored. You guys end up scoring, right? Yeah. And do you mean you know the dugouts at St. Andre Andrews? They cut into the stand. Uh-huh. And so basically, if I'm if I'm looking at the pitch here and I'm sat on the end of the bench, there's a glass wall here, but you're the first fan and you're sat right here. It's close. Yes, it's literally like it's this close. And so there was a dad in the sun, right? And they were there, and they're like giving it, you know, all the typical English mannerisms and behavior, you know, as as an away team. And um, you guys end up scoring. And next thing I know, I just I feel these eyes, you know, kind of looking at me, right? And I turn. And not only does the dad have his pants down showing me his backside, the kid is right there next to him doing the exact same thing. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh. I was like, this is the English football that I'm here for, you know. I was all about it.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Um, but yeah, it was I don't know what I don't know what like rivalries are like over here, but um in England, yeah, it's deep-rooted, it is. So you you've you've got to remember that some of the football teams are hundreds of years old, so that goes through generations of family to great, great, great grandparents. So it's it's sort of passed down, it's part of your blood, and so it's very tribal over there. So if you are playing your rival, it can get tasty at times, it really, really can.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

What is some of the craziest shithy that you've experienced as a player? Anything that just sticks to you. I mean, nothing like the what would they call that? The big moon, the little star, that father-son combo. I don't know if there's a name for that, but yeah, that's anything like that?

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Um, I don't think I've ever had uh an ass show to me. I've never had a bottom show to me before. Um, the worst atmosphere I played, and something that actually got in my head, actually, um, was when I was at um Watford and we played against Wolves. Okay, so Wolves, I used to play for a team called West Brom, who is another Midlands team, and Wolves are a day, it's like it's a derby, they're a rival of West Brom. Wolves and West Brom, it's a really big derby, it's called the Black Country Derby. And um, because I'd played for West Brom before, playing for Watford straight away they came for me. Straight away they were like Ben Foster, we hate you, and we are gonna give you dogs abuse from the first minute to the very last minute. But it wasn't just like a few or a few thousand. I'm talking the whole stadium, the whole stadium, every second of every minute of that game, oh, they were just coming for me. But fair play to them, it actually got in my head, and it was probably the one game where I can honestly say, you know what, it affected me because it was so loud and it was so much, you know what I mean? For the hot and it was so obvious it was just me that so fair do to them, it does it can get in your head sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

But why do you think that one time got to you? As opposed to, I'm sure you've had loads of games where you know you're getting loads of abuse.

SPEAKER_04 8:50

You get used to you as a goalie, you know you're gonna get abused, and because you're so close to the fans as well, you can hear a lot of it as well, you can hear individual sort of cusses, which are some of them are pretty good to be fair, as well. But the whole stadium, I've never had I think even my fans were doing it. Just everybody, everybody just giving it. My whole bench was giving it. And I just think that was the difference there. I've had it for moments in games, and you get used to it being a moment. You can almost sort of laugh it off and play it off. And if you can turn around to the fans, like a big um a big chant in England would always have been like England's number six, England's England's like to try and make you feel like you're nowhere near or whatever. And I would turn around and I'd give like six, like ten England's number, and then they'd go, way, and then you've almost got them on your side a little bit. For sure. There was no turn in that. I couldn't turn the whole crowd, it was as simple as that.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

I remember in you talked about how close you are to the fans. You Joe, you they're right on top of you, and so you hear everything, but you also are are thinking to yourself, you know, the one or two good comments that that are a bit funny and cheeky, you're laughing to yourself and you're having a you're you're you're you're keeping it in because if you let them know that they've got to you, that you can hear it, then all of a sudden it just gets turned up to another level. It gets turned up to another level, it gets worse, more intense, and you're like, oh, this is this is not good here.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

I don't care who you are, right? Some of the best goalkeepers in the world, they they look, you know that like analogy of of like a swan, like looks so elegant on the surface, but underneath its feet are going absolute clappers, right? Even the best goalkeepers in the world, right? They hear individual comments, but you just gotta zone it out and you just gotta carry on because you're a professional, you've got to do your job.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Hard to do when you got 45,000 saying you're England, England's number six.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

It's like oh gosh. Yeah, that would have been the nicest chant as well. Some of the stuff off.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

I know, horrible. In terms of environment, level of play, how has the growth of MLS been seen from the other side of the pond? What do you make of everything that's been happening?

SPEAKER_04 10:41

Um obviously with now with Messi, it's it's getting a lot more exposure and you see it a lot more social media, but it's been that way, honestly, for uh best part of 10, 10, 12, 15 years now, really. It has, ever since you think back to sort of Stephen Gerrard coming over and David Beckham coming over here. Um it's been on the rise for a long, long time. So much so that towards the end of my career, I was thinking, oh, do you know what? It'd be lovely just to go out there just for a few years, maybe, maybe play out there, just experience what that lifestyle would have been like. Because we like over there, we consume a lot of social media content and a lot of football content. You see what it's like playing in different countries, and America was always one where I thought, you know what, it's it looks really nice. It does, and like I said at the beginning of the show, I like the way American people are a lot more outgoing. Really, I love it, I do really nice. More welcoming as well. That's what it means. Yeah, more welcoming. Yeah, like Brad's been showing us around like the last couple of days, like he hasn't got a clue what he was supposed to be doing. And B he's just, yeah, cool, yeah, fine. Let's do it. Let's do it eight. We saw you today, didn't we?

SPEAKER_03 11:35

The business I can wait, you know.

SPEAKER_04 11:36

We saw him today, and he was like, Yeah, I'll just show you around. Sweet isn't that not a problem.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

I love that. And and speaking of Major League Soccer, you almost ended up here. Yeah, I know. What? Yes. You don't know this? No. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

So yeah, it was this was almost the the Fastcast, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

Uh I would have been taken over from Mr. Goose. So um so it was 2022 season, right? Yeah. So 2022, I just finished at Watford. We'd been in the Premier League, we got relegated that season, but my contract had finished anyway, so I was leaving the club. And um, pretty much the next day after the season finished, um, I took all the lads that I do the podcast with and my YouTube channel. We all went out to Mallorca as a bit of a celebration, really, a bit of a Well done boys, you've done fantastic. Um, and I get a phone call literally the first day. The season finished on the Sunday, the Monday we were in Mallorca, and I got a phone call the first day from a football agent. And he said, Fozzie, um do you fancy going to play out in the MLS? And I was like, Well, yeah, I think I do actually because I was trying I was gonna carry on playing anyway. I was looking for looking to carry on playing. And he said, Well, well, Atlanta need a goalkeeper. Brad Goosan's just done his Achilles. Uh, he's out for six months, but they need somebody like now, and I'm talking like tomorrow. They want you to fly out tomorrow and start training with them, basically. And I was like, Oh my god, like this is this is like I I've got family holidays booked, all sorts I did, like for the next few weeks or whatever. It's all been planned because as a football, you in England anyway, you get about six weeks off in the summer, and you've got to get your holidays planned.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

And so that's a precious time. That's a precious time.

SPEAKER_04 13:01

And I love my family holidays, we'd always go away for pretty much the whole six weeks, different places, but we'd go away. Um, and I was um and uh and so much so that I got on a Zoom call with Carlos Bocanegra, who was what I don't know what he's called, the general manager, yeah, like sporting director, yeah, yeah. And I was talking to Carlos and he was explaining it all to me and what he wanted and how it was going to work, and I had a real decision to make. I did have a real decision to make, and I had to sort of I said, listen, I'm gonna sleep on it, speak to the family, and I'll get back to you tomorrow. And woke up, and a lot of people said to me, like, whatever you wake up thinking is probably the way that it's got to go, right? And I woke up and I was like, I don't want to do it, I can't do it, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

I mean in Mallorca, feet kicked up too much. Exactly that.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

We probably had like a skinful the night that night as well. But I woke up.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Really enjoying this the the first day of six weeks here.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

I know, and I just couldn't like go and cancel all those holidays, I couldn't put the family through it. I'm at the end of my lovely career anyway, and I was just like, Do you know what? No, I'm not gonna do it. But and even to this day, I still look back and think, oh, what if you know, that would have been love. I'd just love to have experienced it just for a little while, just to see what it was like. Because what I don't know what pop part of the season that would have been for you guys. So that would have been like starting the middle of the second third.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 14:12

If you if you divide the season into thirds, like what would have been another sort of like six or seven games or something?

SPEAKER_03 14:16

Yeah, we were all we had only been in for six, seven games, and so now all of a sudden, you know, you would have been in for the rest of the season. Yeah, I really would. I'd love to give it a go. That would have been that would have been amazing.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

When you look back and reflect, speaking of during your career, we asked Brad about this the other day. Is there any purchase or anything you made as a player that you're like, what have I just done? Like he he returned a puppy, right? During your time at Warming? Like we lasted a day with a dog.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

We we we bought a dog we bought a puppy and one day in, take it back. Take it back. It's not that's not for us. Uh yeah. And then God's grace, you know, end up having kids. I think my missus was desperate to have kids, and so then we went for And a new pup right now?

SPEAKER_04 14:56

Yeah, and we got a new puppy, so I think dogs and puppies are more hard work than kids, you know, because say if you want to go on holiday or something, oh you've got to find somewhere to put it, you gotta like you should pick it up there, and all that kind of thing. It's hard work, it is.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

No, definitely.

SPEAKER_04 15:08

Kids are a bit easier, I won't lie. Um what big purchase have I made that I um I remember once I bought my like I just signed a new contract and um money had gone up a little bit and I was kind of at that stage. A little bit, you know what I mean? Modest again, you know? I'm like, it's like, oh, I've made it, like I've made it kind of thing. So I thought, you know what, I'll surprise my wife with a nice new car. It was like a Range Rover or something like that. And um, like I fully spec't it out with everything, all this lovely stuff, lovely alloys and blah blah blah blah. And um eventually it arrived, and um I said, Here's the new car, all singing, all dancing. And in in hindsight and in fairness, right? I'm not a flashy person. My wife is definitely not a flashy person. We like to just go under the radar, and it was flashy, it really was flashy. And I remember showing it to the it got delivered, and my wife was like, What is that? And I was like, New car, darling. She was like, Babe, seriously, like, nah, come on. What colour is this? What colour? Um, it was like it was like a beigey kind of like near-white sort of thing. Okay, yeah. And so it would stick out a little bit, but it was like extra big wheels, extra big alloys we had on it. I don't know, what's the brand that do Range Rover wheel? Overfinch. That was it. And it was like overfinch wheels, 24 inch or something silly. Um, and it just stuck out like a sore thumb. And she was like, babe, like, no, I'm not driving that around. I I won't be seen. And I was like, oh God, and I was a little bit angry at the time. And again, though, with hindsight, I look back and go, do you know what? Fair dudes, like it was. It's like proper footballer-wise, footballer blingy, and we're not them people at all. So we actually sent it back, and uh, it didn't go down very well with the dealership, but they did, they took it back in fairness to them. Right, no, there you go. Yeah, it's uh I probably saved myself some money in fairness.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Probably thinking, uh, what do you mean you're taking it back? You know, like what are you doing? We just delivered this thing. Fully spec'd it up. This is this is what all footballers want, you know. And you talk about that, and and I was the same, you know. It was there's certainly uh a footballing culture over there within footballers, strikers, Brad.

SPEAKER_04 16:56

Brad, strikers, right? So definitely not goalkeepers. No, it's the it's so it how it works, right, is um the top of the pitch, the strikers, ego, big ego, like monsters, all right? And then you work your way back midfielders, still a bit of ego, yeah, still a bit defenders, yeah. They're good guys, you know, not bad then solid. They're all right. Goalkeepers, oh the best of the bunch. The best of the bunch. That's how it works, all right?

SPEAKER_01 17:18

The vibe is with the podcast now, too. I mean, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Yeah, so if you're I promise you, you go and look in the car park outside, the strikers will have the fancy Ferraris, right? Yeah, then you work your way back. Goalies will have like bog standard, whatever. Like, yeah, it's fine, don't care.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Speaking of ego, too, you've been humble so far. Could you tell me uh opposition player that when you see them come down the tunnel, you go, This is gonna be a long 90 minutes. Anyone that just terrified you as a goalkeeper?

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Yes, um, Kevin De Bruyne. Yeah, Kevin De Bruyne. What a player. Oh my gosh. So the the reason why there's a couple I could say actually, there's Harry Kane, same sort of thing, Jermaine Defoe. Um, and it's interesting from a goalie's perspective as to why that is as well. So I'll go through it quickly, right? So Jermaine Defoe, um, when he's playing against you, he he doesn't need any backlift, does he? He can he can kick the ball incredibly hard, harder than most people you'll come up against for the full stop, uh, but he can kick it so hard, but with such little back lift as well. So, as a goalie, you you're always watching the player and reading his body language, reading what he's doing, watching his eyes, um, and you you're able to grasp sort of as as and when he's about to kick the ball. But with Jermaine Defoe, he knew where the goal was so instinctively well, and he would just get it out of his feet, and you think it would take maybe half a second for him to go full backlift, bang. But because he didn't have the full back lift, it was a bang, bang, and he would get the shot off before you had a chance to get set, and oh, it's a nightmare as a goalie. Honestly, it's an absolute nightmare as a goalkeeper. So him, Harry Kane, very similar, very didn't need any backlift, and he could do it off right and left foot as well. Um, but Kevin De Bruyne, he was just so intelligent, so clever, and he was always trying to catch you out as a goalkeeper. He's one of those where if he had the ball on the halfway line, and he did it to me a couple times actually, he had the ball on the halfway line, and he would he would take a little sly glance and look at me, and I was thinking, you haven't really looked at me, so you I know you sort of know where I am, but uh you're not gonna try anything silly, right? But he would know exactly where I was, and he's his body language wouldn't give it away, his head wouldn't give it away, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, woof, and he's tried the 50 yard over my head, and I'm scrambling. Oh my god, oh my please don't. And in those few seconds you've got scrambling back to your goal, all that runs through your head is I'm gonna look like an absolute dickhead. I'm gonna look like a dickhead later. This is gonna make me look like such a fool.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

You wouldn't believe what like goes through your head in the world. You're spot on. You're spot on. The amount of times I've I've had that exact feeling. The amount of times you're you're running back and you're thinking, please go over, please go wide, please go over, please go wide. Next thing you know, it nestles in the back of the net and you're thinking, Oh, God. This is gonna look old. All the eyes are on you. You're thinking, what is the ballkeeper doing? But you're you're right though, right? You know, when you talk about in the midst of the game happening, you're looking at him, the play is not even by him, right? He doesn't have the ball, but you're looking at these players and you're saying, okay, and making sure you know where certain players are. Messi is the same way. You're always keeping an eye on him. But like they're always looking where you're at. And so now you're positioning wherever the ball is in the in the game at that moment, says I should be in the top of the 18 yard box, you know, and I should be a bit higher or whatever it is. Next thing you know, ball falls to their feet, turn, bang.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Because panicking, correct. That's how that's why the best of the best, because they've already looked at where you are, preempting the fact that they might actually receive the ball in the next pass, and so they know where you are and they know exactly where to position their body, how to take a touch so that they can get that shot off as quickly as possible. Like Kevin De Bruyne would come in at the angle and he would like as a goalie, you can sort of it's called cheating a little bit, right? If they're coming in at an angle or coming down the side, you're almost trying to preempt the fact that they're going to cut it back for a pass for a striker to just tap it in or whatever. So, as a goalkeeper, you would almost sort of want to edge that way a little bit, just so you can maybe maybe cut it out. And I remember doing it against Kevin De Bruyne, and I started edging that way, and he didn't even look at me, didn't even look at the goal, but he could just his peripheral vision must be for phenomenal, right? And he's looked at the striker that he's gonna pass it to and just put it that way. Thankfully, it hit the post and went out. So, but I I I would have looked an absolute fool because I'm sort of preempting and he's just passed it in the net, and oh no, but that's it. Juice used to worry you as a goalie, it would worry you so much because you know he is in full control of everything he's doing.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

The the sense of panic is real, the sense of panic is so so real. Um, you touched on this a little bit, but as you're starting to come to the end of your playing career, right? You you started to give, get, get into the the whole media side of things and and whatnot, and it all started with a with a GoPro, yeah, right? Talk to me about this GoPro and and what you were thinking on day one when you put it out there, but then ultimately it it's helped you to to where you are now.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

Yeah, so uh yeah, it's the GoPro and the goal, we used to call it. Um so I started a YouTube channel called the Cycling GK. I love cycling, I love my cycling. Um, and honestly, the third the first thought. Of starting the channel was um will I be able to get some free bike stuff? I just wanted free bike stuff, it's so expensive, like new wheels, new frames, new components, it's so expensive. I thought maybe somebody will just send me some free stuff, like anyway. Set the channel up. I like it, I like it. And um, I was we were making light cycling videos and all this, and then I had the idea of just going into the um training ground basically and showing what it looks like behind the scenes as a footballer from a footballer's perspective. So I did a training ground video of uh preseason training and put it out and it did really well. Um, loads of views, people loved it, and then we had a game a couple weeks later, and I thought, you know what? I could just put it in the goal. Like, why not? Just like try and why why not like narrate a story around it as well and build up to the game and then GoPro in the goal and then show you what it looks like afterwards and talk about the game and mistake I might have made, why I did what I did. Um, and I had the GoPro ready for the it was Luton we were playing, we were in the championship at the time, and we were playing against Luton, and I had it in my towel ready to put in the first half, and I got out to my goal and I absolutely bottled it. I was I bottled it so bad, I was so nervous, right? So I was like, no, I'm just gonna not gonna do it, not gonna do it anyway. We scored first in the first half, we're one-nil up and come out for the second half. I'm like, no, I'm doing it, I'm doing it. So I put it in my goal for the second half. Um, we ended up winning the game one-nil, and so after the game, I picked the GoPro up, and I'm just like, ah, great game, really good from the lads today. Blah blah blah blah. We put it out on the internet. Um, that's my phone, sorry, don't worry about it. And um, we put it out on the internet, and the reaction to it was just phenomenal. People were blown away by we need to see more of these, we want to see it. And we didn't know if we could really do it at the time because there's broadcast rights and all that kind of stuff, and um, we just sort of, I think we had the idea, or I probably had the idea of the people advising me not to do it like this, but um, I had the idea of I think do it and then maybe ask for forgiveness afterwards, and it carried on for months and months and months, and we were gaining so many followers, like hundreds of thousands of followers and hundreds of thousands of views every video. Um, and then it got to the point where Sky actually got in touch with the CEFL, the Lee got in touch and said, Listen, um, you know you're not supposed to be doing this, right? I was like, uh well, you know. I didn't know, I didn't know, I don't know. But it was kind of on the back of lockdown, and there were still no fans in the stadium. And I said, Listen, the fans love it, everybody loves it. Why don't we do a like a contract basically where I can carry on doing it to the end of the season and then we'll reassess, right? Cool, they did it, brilliant, fantastic. We ended up getting promoted that season back into the Premier League, and then literally, as soon as we got promoted to the Premier League, the big boys got on the phone, and they were like, No chance, you are not doing this. Like, we've got broadcasters who are paying billions every single year for broadcast rights, and you think you're just gonna get it on your GoPro and put it out on YouTube, it's not happening. Um, so that kind of changed the videos a little bit, but we worked around it, we still were able to make videos. But then, whilst I was doing that, we started our podcast as well called The Foscast. And um, again, we were really early to podcasting. Podcasting is now massive, and like everybody seems to have a podcast, but we were one of the first ones to do it. I think Peter Crouch had one for a few years, and then we sort of followed off the back of that. Um, but we were getting current Premier League footballers, and we were getting like recently retired footballers. Um, and lucky to say, even to this day, we're still getting current and recently retired, and I think that's sort of testament to what we do or how we do it, is that we don't, we're never trying to trip people up, we're never trying to stitch them up or get sensationalist headline because you all know probably as well as me that nowadays social media, oh my god, no, the more sort of outgo, the more sort of like what's the word, like explosive you are or controversial, the more you are like that, then the more clicks you're gonna get, and we'll we'll never bow to that, we'll never do that.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Yeah, no, I love that. What what did the club say when you started getting hundreds and thousands of views? And they're like, um how are we going to connect this to the team because you're getting more views than than we are.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

It was, it was literally like that. And um, when you're winning, it's brilliant, right? They they're like, Yeah, just carry on, it's everything's great. Everybody like Watford started to become everybody's sort of like favourite neutral team, right? So everybody supports anybody, anyway. But then Watford, they were always looking out for the Watford result because they wanted to see what the vlog might look like on the Monday when it was coming out. Um, and like I say, the club were over the moon with it. When we're winning, oh, it's brilliant, like I said, it's fantastic. And championship, we were winning, we're getting promoted. Um, and then we got into the Premier League, and you're not winning. Oh, you're not winning. I remember we played against um Man City, we got beat 8-0. Um, so we were at the Etihad, we're 5-0 down after 18 minutes. Um, and I've got I haven't got GoPro in the goal, but I'm making a vlog for it, I'm making a video, showing the travel, showing the change in room, showing everything about it. Um, and after the game, I've got to hold my GoPro and say, like, well, listen, we tried. Like, we tried, but like there's you know, you're playing against Kevin De Bruyne and David Silver and Vinnie Company and Sergio Aguero and like they're the best players in the world at this moment in time. There's not a lot you can do about it, right? Um, but it doesn't go down well with fans. It doesn't. But I was at that age, probably what, 34, 35, where um I'd got to a stage in my career where do you know what? I know I'm trying my hardest, I know I'm giving it all I can do, but when the match finishes, it's it'll finish for me in my head as well. I'm not gonna take it home, I'm not gonna dwell over it or worry about it. So it is what it is for me. Do you know what I mean? I think football fans really want to see you dying of death and hurting and turmoil and inside and like you take it home and it ruins your week. And I was not that guy. Yeah, I was not that guy. Once the game is finished, boom, that'll do for me. Um, yeah, and it didn't go down with fans. It does not go down with fans. And so there were a couple of occasions where I've run into trouble with the club where I might have got fined a couple weeks' wages here and there, and um, yeah, it was a shame really. But you know, the original GoPro and the goal videos, oh, they were brilliant. That was so, so good.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

I mean, you talk about mentality, right? And and I think, you know, yes, maybe it didn't go go down well with the fans, but I think that's that that's what speaks to your longevity, speaks to your professionalism, speaks to why you were able to have such a successful career. Yeah, because you have this ability to get rid of it and and move on and and not let it eat at you as you go into training during the next week and prepare for your next match.

SPEAKER_04 27:47

So that's a good question I want to ask you then. So, what what period of your football career was your favorite? Did you enjoy the most? What period?

SPEAKER_03 27:54

Honestly, probably right around early 30s, mid-30s, because I was I was the exact same. Before kids, I would go home, I was miserable, especially in England. I was thinking, you know, couldn't go out to dinner, you you'd have to stay in the house, you're not going out and about, you know, walking for going to get a coffee and a coffee. Correct. You don't want to be able to do it. And then and if you were seen, it was almost a case of, oh, he doesn't, he doesn't care. It's it's not hurting him. Yeah. And he's out here just having a coffee. And it's like, well, no, I I I just want to have a coffee. You know, like that, you have a coffee. Yeah. You know, and then I think as as we had kids, that emphasized that part even more that I was able to switch off and and now I'm gonna I'm gonna be a dad and and go home and be a husband and and all those things. Um but yeah, definitely I think as you get older, you have this appreciation for what you put in, how you prepare. And if it doesn't go well, it doesn't go well. But I can't go back and change the last 90 minutes. And so for the next four days, I'm not gonna be absolutely miserable. I agree 100%.

SPEAKER_04 28:53

Kantai is exactly the same. I promise you. As soon as I had a kid, the kids for me was the big turning point where you realize there's more important things, basically. There is, there's more important things than football. And I think when you're coming up and it's been your life and you're striving to get there and you're striving to be a footballer, you can almost care too much, yeah, but I don't think it helps you. You can care, but too much, I I think it starts to really hinder you a little bit. So it's weighing on you, yeah. Yeah, weighing on you, and you think too much about it, and it can really bog you down. And like you say, as soon as you have kids, then you realise that is the most important thing in this life. That's what I'm here for, is to bring my children up into this world. So you start to get to the point where I've done everything right in training, I've trained really hard, I've worked properly, I gave everything I could in the match, but it didn't quite work out. It is what it is. I can go home and look myself in the mirror, sweet, isn't it? But fans don't, because they're invested so emotionally into that football club, they don't see it like that. They will always say, Listen, I would die for this club, I would give anything to play five minutes for this football club. Well, if you did it as a footballer, you would see what it actually is like. You do that anyway, right? You do that naturally because you want to be the best, you want to be competitive. You'll be like me, I guarantee it competitive as heck. Yeah. Yeah. Hate losing. Absolutely hate losing. But as long as I've done all I can do, I won't go home and be sad about it because there's not a lot, you know, you've left no stone unturned, basically.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

When did you know for you the the last couple of chapters of your career were approaching? Was it a a training moment? Was it in a match? Because we had the it's beautiful, the legacy that a player gets to notice as you end that chapter. I mean, getting to produce your farewell stuff to seeing all the love from all these legendary players and seeing what you become now to its divine destiny, kind of like you in the in your content space too.

SPEAKER_05 30:29

Was there a moment where I was like, what were these colours?

SPEAKER_01 30:35

Did you ever feel that towards your end as well and be like, it's all been worth it? Look at this. Um Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 30:41

Like you um I think I knew when the end was coming with football. I knew. Like there was uh I I went back to Wrexham, didn't I? Obviously, Wrexham with Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney. I was probably quite famous over here, isn't it? Um this whole Wrexham story, it's crazy. Um I knew for myself that I shouldn't carry on playing football, though. There was a certain moment in a game where um we we ended up actually drawing the game five all, but um I let a couple of goals in where they've shot from about 25 yards, and they weren't sort of rocket ones, they were like bendy ones. And um when you're diving for a bendy one, you can as a goalie, you're you you know, even when you're diving, before you've touched the ball, you know to the millimeter, you know to the millimeter where you're going to touch this ball, where on your glove you're gonna get it, just so that you know where to push it, basically. You know whether you're gonna get a full hand on it and you'll stop it down, or you'll get a little touch on it and you'll open your wrist up a little bit just to caress it around the corner. Um, and I was diving for it thinking, yeah, I'm just about gonna get my fingertips on it and it's gonna go around the post. Cool. And I'm diving and then I land on the ground. Notice his eyes are closed, by the way. His eyes are closed. I'm diving. Because I can remember it, I can feel it now, I can feel it. And there's no no touch cane. And I've landed on the floor, and I'm like, oh no, I know that's in. I know it because I I have to touch it. Because if I don't touch it, it's going in the back of the net. It's as simple as that. We know if it's gonna hit the post, we know if it's gonna go in, we're gonna we know if it's gonna hit the post and go in. That's how like fine detail it is. And um, yeah, I landed on the floor, and the ball was in the back of the net, and the player runs off, and I'm thinking, oh, that's not normal. I should have saved that, like, that's a save. I know what's a save, and that's a save. And then it happened again about 20 minutes later, and it went in. And I was thinking, oh my god, there's a real problem. I remember my defender turned round and he went, Save it! I was thinking, I'm really trying. I am honestly. I'm really trying. I'm like, well, I'm trying. Um, and it went in, and that was it. And I just remember thinking after the game, I can't, I can't, that doesn't sit right with me. It doesn't like somebody saves that normally.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

Did you not want to think like, right, Monday at training, I'm I'm back out of here. Like, I need I need to be in the gym more, I need to do something. Like, oh, I just didn't.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Do you know what it was? It was the electricity in my feet. So I always uh we always had to say, you know, good feet make great saves, yeah. Good feet make great saves, and your footwork is what gets you into the position to go and make the save in the first instance, and the electricity in my feet had gone, and I had always prided myself on really good feet, really quick, bam-bam-bang, explosive feet, being able to get the right amount of contacts in and go. And um, it weren't there, it just weren't there.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

And I'm thinking put the switch and the lights in and come on, it flicked and it was gone.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

And it I think as a footballer, you have a finite amount of time where that real electricity is there, and because I prided myself on it so much, it just it it had gone, it abandoned me.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

That's that's amazing. I mean, listen, nobody outlives the game, right? Yeah, so true that you've been able to turn transition so well in into this next space. But this summer we've got a a pretty exciting event happening here in the United States in in conjunction with with Mexico and Canada. But the World Cup. Yeah, how are we feeling? Uh buzzing.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

I love it. I love a major tournament anyway. So um, me and my podcast team, and we were out in the Euros for um two years ago out in Germany. We spent the whole time out there, a whole month out there. It was amazing, honestly. We went to all the England games, we were in the fan zones, we were mixing with it. It's incredible, right? What an amazing time we had. Um, this year it's gonna be a little bit different. We're gonna be based in New York, so we're gonna be out here for the World Cup. Um, but even that in itself, just a month in New York, you know, with all the team, all the boys, lads that we love working with anyway. Um, oh, it's gonna be amazing. And the Americans, we know the Americans just do everything a little bit bigger and a little bit better, right? Um, and just even being in Atlanta for these last couple of days as well, just seeing the way that this like this city is and the way that the people are and how much they're loving the football, the stadium. Oh my goodness, like it's that that stadium is top two or three, probably in Premier League. Yeah, there'll be one of the top two or three stadiums in the Premier League. I'm biased, so I'm gonna say Tottenham, you know, I'm it will probably it'll be up there like Tottenham have just opened a new stadium. Everton have just opened a new stadium and it will be on a par with them. Genuinely, it is. It's I was that blown away seeing it. Um, so yeah, there's gonna be some incredible games. I know there's a semi-final here as well, uh, at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium. That's gonna be amazing. Uh, we went and sat next to the pitch, didn't we? In those like, what are those little seat called next to the field level suit? The field level level suit. Oh my goodness. Can you imagine? Like, you've got to have some money, obviously, to sit in them sort of seats, but what a view you're gonna get. A World Cup semi-final sat there.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Amazing.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

Unreal.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Speaking of, streets are saying it's coming home. I've heard it a couple of times, maybe from some individuals in this room. Oh, look at the face as well. The streets just Harry Kane on what a 50-goal season right now as well. How are you guys feeling back home about about the World Cup?

SPEAKER_04 35:24

Um, it's a bit everyone's a little bit nervous at the minute, I won't lie. Um, we we had a couple of friendlies recently, and we've lost our last friendly against Japan. And England don't often lose many games. They really don't. Even in friendlies, we'll always make a point of winning the friendlies. Um, and English fans are uh kind of naturally a pessimistic bunch, they really are, right? So we've lost this friendly against Japan, they booed us at full time. Uh we actually went to the game, and yeah, booing at full time. I'm thinking, come on, we've got a Will Cup in a few months' time. Like now's not the time to start getting a bit negative in Neggy. Um, and there's a few players in our team that aren't quite hitting top form yet, and we really need them to start hitting top form. You know, your Phil Fodens and your Cole Palmer's and Jude Bellingham's, and um, there's a few questions about our defence, and is Trent gonna get in at right back? And oh, there's all sorts, and Harry Kane, if Harry Kane, God forbid, gets injured, we would be in a right pickle, we really would. So um no, I think um for me, I I think tournament football is completely different to playing any kind of friendly games. Um, these big players with a bit of aura about them are used to playing on the big stages. I think that's when you start to see the proper quality coming out of players when it really matters. Because friendlies are great and it's good to keep your fitness up and stuff, but it doesn't really get the juices flying for those big players. It's when they step onto that pitch in a World Cup in America, then you'll start to see the the boys that are made of something.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

No, definitely. Uh it's uh yeah, listen, we're we're excited for for the summer. We're excited for you know what is to be, what what this sport can be uh here in the U.S.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

Well, so I've answered the question for England then. It's coming home for the US. It's not going home now. It's coming home, it's staying here, you know.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

Um Yeah, listen, you know, I think we chatted about this the other day, but if we're able to produce uh a few results that you know have that electricity and and now all of a sudden galvanize this country and and get these fans behind the team, I think that's gonna be the sky's the limit, you know, because you know, as we've seen in in in other tournaments, especially with host countries upsetting major major countries, major teams, yeah. You know, it it is possible. You need the stars to align, of course, and you need a little bit of good fortune and a bit of luck, but you know, why not?

SPEAKER_04 37:37

It's uh it's so cliche, right, to say the 12th man and the fans can be the 12th man, but honestly, they can. I people don't understand that as a player having been there and done it and seen it, yes, they can really change the outcome of a game. It could only be a few percent that decides the outcome of a game sometimes, and that fan can really be the 12th man. It really can.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

No, definitely. It's something that makes Atlanta so different, too. We had 140,000 people come for two friendlies for the US MNT. Oh man. Imagine what that semifinal is gonna be like here. Unbelievable. Yeah, it's gonna be fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

Can you guys get any tickets for or anything like that? You got any hookups?

SPEAKER_03 38:08

I was gonna have to do it I was gonna have you if we can, if we can, you know, any connections, you know? I mean, my goodness. Um, but no, Ben, listen, man. Uh it's been an absolute honor and and privilege to to have you here talking shop, talking footy, talking goalkeeping. I love the detail of talking about you know where you're gonna save it. You know, I think that the art of goalkeeping has has dropped a bit, you know, over over the years. I totally agree.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

But more focus on like playing out and being good at passing the ball and save the ball. Stop ball going in the back of the net. Stop the ball going in the back of the net.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

Let that run it. Honest to God. Unbelievable. Ben, you're the man, dude. Thank you. Appreciate it. Nice one. Top man, mate. Thank you, man.

unknown 38:44

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_03 38:46

Oh my gosh, Joe. What a great couple days. Having Ben Foster here in Atlanta, showing him the city, the stadium, the training ground, um, the new kit.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

I mean, what a what a great couple days. To see his reaction too for somebody who had not seen the spirit of 96 yeah, everybody does the same thing. I mean, you walked in with it too for the kids who have been like, Jeez, is that for me, mate? This is a proper cottage. Like, they just love the the cream base too. So that's my best Ben Foster right there. I love it. But just vibes guy, too. You guys had kinetic energy as well. Was that your first time interacting with him away from I mean, you had really met him really well?

SPEAKER_03 39:22

No, definitely. I it was it, it was definitely my first time, you know. You know, just being able to talk to him about all things, you know, whether it's football, whether it's goalkeeping, whether it's the city, the the World Cup, all things. Um and so being able to sit down, such a down-to-earth guy. Um, the as you mentioned, great energy, great vibes. Um, and you know, I I think it's probably because we're both goalkeepers.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Somehow, GK Union, man. It's a real thing. Speaking of, guys, we have also got a brand new mailbag here delivered by the Home Depot. Always on time, guys. We want to say thank you so much for subscribing on our YouTube channel, being on Spotify as well. We're the third most followed channel in Major League Soccer as well. Smashing it. Uh we've got uh question number one for you here, Brad. It's gonna be Hey Brad, loving the show. My question is, what kind of stuffed animal did you have when you were little? This one comes from Roe from Alpha Red.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Okay, yeah, first of all, big, big shout-out uh to everyone for always sending your questions for tuning into the show. Uh Joe and I love love being here, chatting with our guests. So big shout out to to all of our listeners and and followers. Um growing up, I I wasn't a big stuffed animal guy. Um but I did have you know the the odd stuffed, not animal, but like sports ball, whether it was a basketball or a football or a soccer ball. Um and then I also had this is going way back. I don't I don't know if you you ever seen these, but they had like WW at this point in time, it was called WWE, and they're wrestle, they were wrestle buddies. Um they were wrestlers that were stuffed animals. And I had I had Hulk Hogan, I had uh the ultimate warrior. Um but yeah, those were those those those were my stuffed animals, if you will. Do they come with like a ring or anything? So you know like shoe plants. They were big. They were probably like they were probably a good two feet, you know. They were they were big. And so yeah, you're you're doing like wrestling moves on him as a kid. You're like, yeah, off the couch, bang, dropping the elbow. Um, yeah, that was that was my extent of of stuffed animals.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

Did you have one? Yeah, I had a he still lives in the closet to this day, which is crazy. Like home, yeah. He's just back back home? His name is Wolfie.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

We're here like currently with you at your current residence.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Back with the folks, okay. Uh yeah, his name is Wolfie, man. He still has like a you know when you play with the stuffed animals so much? Like, did your wrestle buddies have like handprints on them? Like, you know when they start to show like wear and tear? Because I would just grab him by the scruff every time and like make him walk and stuff too? Wolfie. Oh gee man. Big shout out to Wolfie. I also had the skills mini hoop too. You made me think uh they had some sick like hoop technology to where the rim was like spring loaded. Yeah. So you know the plastic ones where every time you could slam it down, it would like snap off, or the net would come off, and you'd be like, sorry, yo, hold on, hold on, time out, time out. If you're playing a heated like a three on three with the homies in the basement, who wants to do that? If it's a one-possession game and you gotta be like, guys, hold on a second. But I didn't fail.

SPEAKER_03 42:30

I did appreciate the fact that that gave me a sense of confidence and strength that maybe I didn't have as a kid. So I was thinking, like, oh look how strong I am.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

It's like that you see those videos of Shaq when he throws it down the whole backboard. Like Shatter, and that's you, and you just walk off like Zach at seven years old.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

Seven years old jump jumping off my bed, breaking breaking down a little little basketball hoop.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

Control room, you guys got any uh any deep cut stuffies that are still around?

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Well, the wrestle buddies do bring me back. I had uh I had the macho man Randy Savage WrestleBuddy. Those things were great. There's also well, you had me thinking, it wasn't a stuffed animal, but there were these little mini uh clay guys that were like wrestle things too that I was really into. And I did have the we had the hoop. Uh man, I remember strapping on the LA gears and like trying to emulate all the dunk contest winners in my basement, just thinking I was so good at basketball. Like going off from the free throw line through the legs, like as a uh J.R. writer. Those are the days. We should one day we do need to just go on a deep dive with the podcast on vintage toys because I mean micro machines, uh garbage tail kids. We'll have to do that sometime.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

What a shot that is. We were talking about this before today, so there's like a whole movement online right now about the iPod being back. Like do you think in any point have we reached a peak of technology? Is it too much? Now, like, do you ever feel like geez, too much screens, too many notifications? Sometimes you just want to pull out the iPod shuffle, kick on some one republic, and just vibe. Like, you know what I mean? Late 2000s. I love it. Those were some good times.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

I love it. They they were. I mean, I that's no secret. I'm not a tech guy. Um, and so you know, the the the iPod, it was it was great. You could take it everywhere you went. Um and and I I just I don't think we're we're peak technology. I think it's still still gonna continue to improve. There's gonna be more of it for right or wrong. I I think more is coming. Um and yeah, sometimes you you just want to be able to put that away, and you know, the the notifications are non-stop.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

Nonstop. And now you got slack, you got Monday? You're sending Slack notifications on the internet. I mean, you're in the city. Just trying to live that corporate life, you know? We got another one here from Brett from Rockmart as well. If animals were all the same size, which one would win in a fight? So I guess my question would be controlling like what what size is the unique, the uniform size for all animals? You know what I'm talking about? Like, is it a whale-sized ant against a whale?

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Let's uh yeah, I I was trying to deep dive this question a little bit uh when it was submitted. Um I think it's just saying a level playing field. So let's why don't we say every animal is uh six foot at this point? Like a six foot human size.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

And I think we need it to I mean in what? We've got in water, out of water?

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yeah, yeah. So that's um that's a thing. I I guess like territorial-wise, the the swimmers would not do well on land, but in vice versa. But I was I don't know, I was thinking my initial thought was like maybe like the spider or the mosquito would be pretty good. Like a six-foot mosquito, like I think it's a six-foot mistake, Robin's like no chance.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Well, no, because think about it, that thing would be flying around and it's got like a spear on its nose the size of this table. And it can suck your blood. Yeah. So you'd be you'd be it'd be like trying to take it like this, and all of a sudden it'd be and then you like Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 46:18

There's no chance.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

Where are you?

SPEAKER_02 46:20

What about like To all our listeners?

SPEAKER_03 46:21

Where are you guys coming up with these questions?

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Yeah, I love these questions. What what about um like the yellow jacket or the wasp, a six-foot wasp?

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Agility, speed.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

Or yeah, I mean they they take down the mosquito, I think. But you don't think a six-foot bear is taking down I think the mosquito and the yellow jacket, the wasp, take take out the the bear pretty easily. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

But then here's the debate we had about the silverback. Let's see, the silverback sees it coming. Grabs it by the neck, it's like yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Grabs its stinger because you think a silverback is phased by a stinger of a bigger one.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

But it's a six-foot silverback. Six foot. And yeah, I do think the silverback gorilla is pretty dominant still. But he's, you know, at six foot, he comes down a little bit, probably, uh in size. Um I mean, imagine like a six-foot rattlesnake, you know? I mean, that's um like that's pretty bad. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

Like rattlesnake, how are you measuring that?

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Yeah, it comes down to like pound for pound, what's the scariest thing alive? Deadliest thing. I'm trying to think of like there's got to be some crazy insects. Like, yeah, I like I like what you're saying, man, about like a spider or something that can that can shoot out scorpion.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

So like something that could like like a spitting card. Scorpion.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Or like Scorpion would be good.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Um Honey, I shrunk the kids.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Hey, this is kind of like uh going back to nostalgia, honey I shrunk the kids. We'll have to do a 90s movie day as well for all the old folks. Um, yeah, I man, I it's a good question.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

I mean, you can go so many. We we probably need some more more insight into this question. Yeah. I mean, it's you're you're going you're going down a couple different paths.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah, I feel like we're missing an animal though, aren't we? Like what are what are the craziest like yeah, tiger, bear, silverback?

SPEAKER_02 48:19

What's the poison poisonous? What's like the really poisonous uh just if you touch it a six-foot poisonous tree frog? Yeah, and it's got the tongue, yeah. Yeah, but what about like the what's the um what's the jellyfish that's like super poisonous?

SPEAKER_04 48:35

Well, it's like the man of war is the man of war, six-foot man of war? You're not going in the ocean on that.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

Yeah, that's that thing takes all the sharks out, I think.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Yeah, we haven't said enough ocean creatures yet, too. Electric heel, that's a whole what's the one that's got like 600 teeth and the little lantern light in front of it? Yeah. Oh yeah, they live like that thing is six-foot angler, yeah. Angular fish? Angular fish.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Of course, Ravi knows that it's called the angular fish.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Love it, Rob.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

I mean, did he pull out his phone right there? Or is that just that would be the Nemo? I just know it from finding Nemo, yeah. The ocean depths.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

Yeah, that's why I said the ocean is scarier than space. It is. Objectively, Brad. I'm not going four miles into the ocean. I'm not going four miles out. This podcast is taking distances and lengths that we've never seen. Yes, we might by the end of this year, we could be in a submarine. We don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

We had this conversation last week on um or a couple weeks ago on space versus uh the sea, but I was watching the space shuttle or the the whatever they call it, the pod they were in come back to Earth. Would there be a more miserable moment that you've just been in space for like 10 days, right? You've lost now, you're like body's getting used to gravity, and then you're just waiting for like the boat to come get you and they can't get the door open and you have to get on this raft. That's gotta be the worst part of that space exploration is that like our when you land in the ocean and you're waiting for the navy to come in an inflatable boat to you. That I I was having anxiety just watching that on the news last week.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

I mean, what do you think? We're getting off, we're getting off topic here. Where what do you think is going through their head as they're traveling at I mean, I don't even know how fast. It's like 15, 24,000 miles an hour. Hold on. How does a CIO what is another good shout out, Rob, what how fast, Robbie?

SPEAKER_00 50:33

24,000 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Oh my gosh. What's going through your head in that moment?

unknown 50:38

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

As you're entering the atmosphere atmosphere, coming back to Earth.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

How many G's is that? You ever done like the G tester at Disneyland where your face is on?

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Uh Robbie has that answer as well.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Seven G's.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Robbie, go get in that chair. Seven G's.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Yeah, I think at Disney, I got up to like four. What are you saying seven is the no, it's gotta be more than seven that they experience, right? Surely you're you're passing out at some point. Right. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

Think about that. You're going what how many miles per hour was it?

SPEAKER_00 51:12

24,000 miles an hour on re-entry to like whatever in 13 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

But imagine you're going 24,000. So just think of like roller coaster times 100, the worst you've ever been on. But you've just your body's just gone from no gravity to gravity. Like imagine that. So you're dealing with that. I gotta think your eardrums and like just like when I take a nap on a plane, I wake up and it's all like I'm all discombobulated. Yeah, I don't know what side I'm I'm so impressed with. Yeah, it's it's wild. That those those I think those guys are crazier than the guys that went in that submarine. I always go back to the submarine because that the one that went down. The Titanic one? The one that exploded a couple years ago. Yeah. Ravi, what was the name of that? Um that's I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Have you seen Interstellar? Oh no. What? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

I know. I'm not a movie guy. I mean I am a movie guy, but uh you know, no dog.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

Yeah, yeah.

unknown 52:24

Man.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

That's when they're in outer space, right? And they're like, they can't get back or what?

SPEAKER_01 52:27

But he le he leaves his family on Earth. Yeah. He leaves his well, should I for all the fans who are watching? No, no, we can't spoil it. Now we have to watch this as a show. Listen, I'll trade you.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

Sign me up.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

All right. And you watching it still. Got it. We'll come back. Perfect. It's honestly top it's in my top three of movies I've ever seen. Really? I don't think it's crazy to say that. I got Goodwill Hunting is my number one. Great movie. Prime Matt Damon. Robin Williams. After that, I don't know. You said Billy Madison's your number one, right?

SPEAKER_03 53:00

I mean it's up there? As a kid, as a kid, it certainly was. Yeah. It maybe is an adult. I mean, it's just something about him. Adam Sandler, great answer hanger.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Well, guys, that has been Bragg Uzang's mailbag. We have taken a lot of turns there.

SPEAKER_03 53:14

We got off topic, guys. We got a lot more out of that.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

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