16. Why Your Success Isn't Complete Without Designing Your Life on Your Terms with Ameera Virani

Success can look impressive on the outside, yet still leave you wondering why something feels missing.

In this episode, Robina is joined by Ameera Virani, life and business advisor and host of The Designed Life Podcast. After spending more than two decades in the personal development world alongside some of the most influential thought leaders of our time, Ameera noticed a common pattern: many high achieving women reached their goals only to realize they had built a life that no longer reflected what they truly wanted.

Ameera shares her own wake up call following a significant health crisis and how it led her to rethink everything she believed about success, achievement, and fulfillment. Together, she and Robina explore what it means to intentionally design a life that supports not only your goals, but also your wellbeing, relationships, freedom, and sense of purpose. This conversation is a powerful reminder that success is not just about what you build, but about how you experience the life you're creating.

In this episode, they share:

• Why success without alignment can still leave you feeling unfulfilled
• How high achievers can lose sight of what they truly want
• The connection between burnout, health challenges, and living out of alignment
• Why designing your life requires questioning inherited definitions of success
• How to create a life that supports freedom, fulfillment, and sustainable success

Connect with Ameera:

• Instagram: @ameera.virani
• Website: ameeravirani.com
• Podcast: The Designed Life
• Masterclass: Wealth By Design 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Guys, you are in for such a treat today. I have a guest that you are not going to want to stop listening to. Her name is Amira Virani, and she is someone who has grown up with more than 20 years in rooms that most of us only read and dream about. Growing up in an entrepreneurial family, she became part of building one of the largest personal development stages in the world, a business that touched hundreds of thousands of lives and brought some of the most iconic voices of our time to audiences desiring success, wealth, and personal transformation. And you may have been in one of those rooms. We are talking about Oprah Winfrey, Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, Maya Angelou, Wayne Dyer, Marianne Williamson, and Robin Sharma, leaders whose work has shaped how our generation thinks about purpose, potential, and what it means to truly live fully. She held a front row seat to it all. In that time, she watched thousands of accomplished women arrive at the top of their field and quietly wonder why it doesn't feel like the same as they thought it would. She holds a business degree and is a certified life coach and advanced training in NLP, emotional intelligence, and design thinking, a combination that gives her work a rare quality. It is both strategic and deeply human. She has also lived the experiences her clients bring to her. After losing her father, her brother, and her sister and navigating her own significant health crisis, she rebuilt her life from the ground up and turned that journey into a methodology. Today, she is a life and business advisor, speaker, and host of the Designed Life podcast. She works with high-achieving women in leadership, navigating their most significant professional and personal transition, helping them redefine what success, wealth, and significance mean on their terms. In a world where AI is rewriting the rules faster than anyone can plan for, please welcome Amira Varani. Hi, Amira.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Hello, Ravina. Thank you so much for that beautiful introduction and for having me on your podcast. I'm so thrilled that you have this beautiful podcast launched. It is so needed. Your voice is needed in this world, and I'm honored to be here.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Thank you very much. And you guys will see Amira's voice is so soothing, and you guys are going to be in for a real treat. So I want you to tell us a little bit of your backstory. So take me back to where it all began.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

I'd love to share my professional journey because I feel like that is the journey that the women that I work with and that I speak to can really see themselves in. My father passed away when I was quite young. I was two and a half. And so I grew up with a really strong maternal role model in my mom. She really stood up and cared for our family in such a way, and she was completely unprepared for it. I don't think she ever could have foreseen that she would be raising four children on her own with a very limited education as an immigrant to Canada and going out and getting a job. So I was really led by a strong female role model. And I'm so grateful for that every day because it's really defined how I show up in my life. I was in my late teens, starting out on my own university education. We had a family business. My brother had started an organization where he reached out to Tony Robbins and said, Hey, I want to promote you in Canada. And that became our business. And it eventually expanded into promoting and showcasing incredible speakers across the world. So it was like world stages where we were bringing these iconic voices on personal development. At a very young age, I was very lucky to be immersed in this world of personal development and learning about human behavior and human psychology and what makes us do the things we do. And why is it that some people learn the same thing and have incredible success and others learn it and struggle? Some people's success is deeply fulfilling, while others is quite superficial on some level. So they have all of the outward success, external success that we dream of, and yet they feel depleted and unfulfilled. And so I was in this world for many, many years. I would say I spent about 15 plus years across my lifetime in this business. In 2008, we were on the heels of doing two of our most iconic events back to back, one day in one city and another day in another city. And my sister at the same time was battling brain cancer. I remember not being able to advance to the next event because she had a very crucial appointment coming up. And so I went with her to that oncologist appointment. That was where we learned that there was no further treatment for her. Within a few short weeks, she passed on and she was just shy of her 50th birthday. That loss left such an imprint on my heart and soul and changed how I was viewing my own career and my own life. And suddenly things became much more clear in terms of what was important and what wasn't. That was one big turning point for me. But as with most people, we have to learn the lesson a few times before we really get it. And so if I were to fast forward through my entrepreneurial journey and then working in the corporate sector, I reached my own stage of what we would call burnout today. I don't know if it's what I would have called that when it happened to me, but I became ill after actually taking a vacation. So I was finally taking some time off. Makes sense. And that makes sense to you, right? Because it's when the body relaxes. Let's go. Yeah. I enjoyed a beautiful vacation. I came home and I became very ill with shingles and then another virus or something that was just happening inside my body that I couldn't name and that doctors couldn't figure out. Eventually, we did figure out what was happening. I was on medication. I took time off work. That was the catalyst moment for me where I said, I have to choose how I want to live. I have to be able to design my life. And luckily, I had all this knowledge and experience and expertise to lean on and to draw from. And that's where my business was born. Why I started to go into coaching was I first coached myself through this new evolution of who I wanted to be and how I wanted to live and show up in the world. And now I get to do that with the clients that I serve.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

So much to unpack there. You were being shown a version of yourself like three times. People don't change until the impact hits them and it stops you in your tracks. And so you talked a little bit about experiencing burnout, which I don't know if I really love that phrase because I feel like it's so vague. I understand you went on vacation and things had stopped because we're no longer wearing the masks of who we have to be and we're at ease. Our nervous system is finally resting. Tell me what happened. You said it was the shingles and the virus, but something had to kind of click inside of you. Do you look at any of the experiences from the past and decide, I gotta reframe and reshuffle this whole thing?

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yeah, I do. I think for me, the biggest thing was I had to come to terms with the fact that I had been pushing my body and not taking care of my body. And I think so many of us do that. Like you said, we wear the masks, we do the work, we show up in all the roles that we carry and that we hold. And we don't nurture ourselves with that same commitment, that same drive and tenacity. We're not as committed. At least I wasn't. So I knew that my body needed to be looked after, but I was in my early years, I'm like in my 20s and my 30s, and I'm coasting and I'm like, life's good, right? I can eat what I want, do what I want. And yes, you need to lose a few pounds, but I felt good for the most part. What I didn't realize until later was that all those nights of not enough sleep, not enough nourishment, not enough healthy movement, not enough decompression and letting my nervous system come down off these huge events we were doing. The experience of the person walking into the room and experiencing the event is one thing. But when you are driving at the back end of that, it's relentless. Yes, it can be exciting, but the nervous system does not decompress very easily after that. And I remember would come home after back-to-back events. And my husband, we were newly married, would say, Let's go, you know, no kids, let's go out for the weekend. There's a festival in Toronto, let's go. And I would recoil at the idea of it because I didn't want to be around people. I didn't want to speak to anyone. I just couldn't. I would try, I would try to again spend time with my husband in this way. I remember specifically going to a festival one day and going, I can't be here right now.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Over simulation for sure. If any of you guys have been to one of these events, I remember going to a Tony Robbins event, but there was a whole bunch of other people there too. And I remember thinking, this is massive, like insane how many people were there. So to be one of those people that were coordinating all those people and making sure that everything went without a hitch, I can't even imagine. So we talked a little bit about the experience of grief and how you went through those things with your sister and your father. And I think there was another family member that had passed as well. How did you manage the grief? Because I feel like in our society, one of the things that most of us don't realize is that we are not encouraged to sit with our feelings. There's a lot of toxic positivity out there about you got to think positive and what you think about, you bring about. And yes, to a certain degree, that is true. But you know, as someone who's working in the subconscious layer with people, how do you help people work through those deep-seated things?

SPEAKER_01 10:55

I'm so glad you asked this question because growing up as a woman of color and a South Asian woman of color and someone who grew up in a religious family, I'm more spiritual than religious, but I distinctly remember being at my sister's funeral and a very loving aunt who meant well, of course, placed her hand on my shoulder and said, Don't cry. They had been taught by crying, you're holding back the soul from its journey home. I don't subscribe to that. I don't think you can hold back a soul from returning home. But I remember feeling bad about being emotional, about being expressive in my emotions. Now that I look back on that, I think we are human beings who have the unique gift of being able to experience and express a multitude of emotions. For us to suppress that is for us to suppress our truth. I'm not one to necessarily express my grief openly to people that I'm not normally in community with, but I do believe that by expressing our grief, we also give space and security for others to express theirs. It can be a point of connection in our humanity that we need to have. We need to see that we're not alone in our grief or in our joy or in whatever we're experiencing as an emotion. And so today I'm much more expressive. I actually feel that me sharing the story of grief throughout my life has actually been a point of connection for me with a lot of people who are in my world who have said, Oh, you've walked that and you've come through on the other side. I don't know that I'm stronger for it. I think I'm more aware and more awake. That grief really opened my eyes and my heart. It's made me realize that every day we have is a gift. It really is, and we can't take it for granted.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

And the reason why I asked that is because I feel like there are so many people that believe, and culturally, when you're going through grieving someone, it's almost like you have to suffer. And that there's such a heaviness involved. And there is a heavy feeling around it because we're losing something. But there is also so many beautiful things that evolve from expressing our grief and allowing the world to see how we've evolved through it and how we honor those people, maybe through some of the actions that we have or maybe some of the practices that we do. But I love that you came out of it and you said that you see it as every day is a gift and we're given this gift. Thank you for sharing that. Because I feel like a lot of people hold on to grief and it ends up leading into other illnesses because they're not allowing that emotion to be expressed because it's supposed to go somewhere. After you came out of the experience with the shingles and the viruses and your health being under attack, how did you learn to work with your system?

SPEAKER_01 14:09

That's an evolution that is a continual journey for me. I love that. And I believe that's what it's meant to be. I don't think there's anything that we do perfectly. So for me, it was taking that time off and pausing. For me, it was a leave of absence for work because I was in a nine to five role at that time, was a real gift because one, it allowed me to pursue the answers as to what was happening with me and to advocate for my health. So I advocated both with Western healing, Western medicine, but also looking at natural healing and what could I do to heal myself from within so that I wouldn't experience these external symptoms on an ongoing basis. There was a lot of different things that I tried and some stuck. I didn't drink a lot of alcohol to begin with. So I gave that up completely and haven't gone back to it. I started watching what I was putting in my body from a nutrition standpoint. And that's the part where I'm not perfect. So we, you know, we have relapses and those things. But I think for me, more holistically, was just taking time to pause and to rest and to realize that I didn't have to earn my rest and I didn't have to justify it. That sitting around doing quote unquote nothing is okay. We are allowed to sit and read a book. We are allowed to take a nap. I literally would study how other people live long lives in other parts of the world. And what is their lifestyle and why aren't we doing it? There are some answers that are glaring us in the face. That saying of success leaves clues is so true. I recently traveled to Spain and there is a siesta that happens. There is an enjoyment of your meals and sitting down at lunch and having conversation that doesn't center around work and then having a lovely dinner with your family. Like it isn't this constant pressure to go and perform. And I think that's the biggest takeaway I've had. And that's what I've really tried to integrate. Some seasons are better than others, but I think that's what I've tried to take away. And that's how I've tried to transform my life into being more aware of what I need spiritually, emotionally, and physically.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Part of Amira's podcast is the design life. And it's really recently, I mean, since I've known you, it's about where do I want to travel and what types of things can I really soak in and absorb and what lessons can I learn from maybe other cultures? Because in the Western culture, it's very much about go, go, go. And there's no beginning and no end. Our workday, especially if you're a founder or a CEO, there is from the time you wake up, you're answering emails, you're on. You're like replying to people because it's like, how do we get paid? How does the money flow in? And then we make ourselves so accessible. And then you go to these other countries. I remember when I visited Spain, I was like two o'clock walking around and I wanted to go shopping and like everything was closed. And I was so angry. I'm like, why would they do that? But I realized after you're there for a few days, they are so smart. Like, how can we learn to integrate that? You've gone traveling and you're seeing all these things and you're starting to integrate these practices into your day. Tell me how that's changed the way that the outcome has been.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

For me personally, it's really impacted how I show up in my world. And I think that that's where the transformation happens. Because when you change how you think, how you experience your life, your business, you're walking in the world differently. And that's when the outcome starts to change because you are that first pebble in the water, and there's a ripple effect that's going to happen now. The outcome for me is I enjoy things more fully. I will relish the time that I have with my family. Whether it's just sitting down and watching TV together and laughing at a sitcom or playing a board game or walking the dog while my son rollerblades next to me. We go on vacation together and we soak in the culture and the pleasures of what everybody wants to do. It's not just mom and dad who get to decide. It's the kids get to say, hey, today I want to explore this or that. And it's really just relishing those moments outside of the work that we do. Because for me anyway, and I think this is true for a lot of people, we work in order to have the designed life, in order to travel, in order to have fun and go to concerts and eat at nice restaurants and sit on the beach. We work in order to have that. So the work can't be all of our time. We have to have a sense of like, it's okay as a CEO to stop at five o'clock and say, I'm not available for my work after 5 p.m. on these days, really setting healthy boundaries for ourselves. And that's something that I think has shifted for me. And the outcome is that my clients are seeing me live that. And so they're testing it in their own lives. And they're starting to see the result of that too, which is oh, I feel better rested. I feel more peaceful. And I feel like it doesn't have to happen according to a specific timeline. It's okay if this takes me a little longer to achieve. That to me is the beauty of it, is you can actually design how you want to live. It doesn't have to look like anyone else's timeline, definition of success. It doesn't even have to look like what you thought it was going to be five years ago. You can redefine it for yourself at any time. And whenever you make those new choices for yourself, the results will follow. It may take some time before the results actually show up for you. But if you keep showing up in what feels aligned for yourself, the results that you desire will show themselves.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

If a listener that was coming in and would hear, oh, healthy boundaries and at five o'clock are you not available, like I honestly feel like their nervous system would be really activated because they're like, how could I even do that? Like I built this business. And so one of the things that I always say is that the more change someone needs, the smaller the changes have to be. And so I'm sure one of the things you're alluding to is you don't have to go full throttle every week and be like, okay, it's a hard stop every Monday to Friday at five o'clock, but maybe you do it on Mondays, you know, and eventually you teach people that this is the new bar, this is the new standard. So share with me a little bit of how you would coach someone through that.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah, I love what you said that the small changes are sometimes all that's needed. You know, I love the Japanese philosophy. I think it's Kaizen, where it's like it's just a 1% shift. But a 1% shift compounded over time is an entirely new path. The burnout phrase doesn't resonate well for me either. But there's another phrase that people use, I want to just burn it all down. And I'm why? Why do we have to burn things down? Why does it have to be all or nothing? Yeah. That is not life. That is not who we are. It's the small shifts to your point. And that's how I coach my clients through it as well. And we always start with the most foundational layer, which is know yourself. Let's come back to the clarity of who are you in this season? Not who were you as a seven-year-old or a 13-year-old or even a 25-year-old, but if you're in your midlife, you have changed. You have become a different version of yourself. She's not better, she's just different. So who are you today? Are there new things that you desire in your life? Are there new experiences? Have your priorities shifted? What are your values today? And then we start designing from that place. But again, it doesn't have to be this monumental shift. You don't have to like quit your job and start a business. It could just be that maybe on certain days, you might leave your office a little bit earlier and go enjoy some more time with your family or meet up with a friend. You might just start to integrate some of the things. And the people that you love in your life on a more regular basis and just start to create some boundaries about where you're spending your time and giving your energy. Some of the smallest shifts that people have made in my world is they put down their phone at a certain time. And I admit I struggle with that. Like my children hold me accountable to, hey, no more phones. We're going to put them down. We're going to spend time together. No more scrolling Instagram endlessly because that is time that you don't get back. And so it's those little tiny shifts, but they make a world of difference. Even if it's just you feeling lighter, more peaceful, more at home in your mind and your body and your spirit. That's where we start from is clarity. And then we dive into are your desires aligned with your values? Or is there a disconnect there? Do we need to make some shifts on is this desire what you truly want? What's beneath the surface of it? So in design thinking, we would go beyond the surface problem to what is the real deep-rooted change that you would like to experience in your life. And we start from there and then we build out our belief systems and rewiring that subconscious layer. And then we build strategy and planning. A lot of people start with, I got to change my strategy in order to achieve the result. But it actually starts the other way around. Yeah. The other way around. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

What's really interesting to me is you're looking at creating a new blueprint for success. And what a lot of us do is we build from old programming. From myself, being someone that is of West Indian descent and brown descent, for me, it was about, you know, you have to work hard to get what you want. And what was exemplified to me is my father worked multiple jobs. And my mom had a job as well. My dad had this belief, and it was always you work and work and catch your ass. That was his saying. That became something that was really ingrained in me. And teaching women about the idea of what season are you in now? And what we're building, is it based on a foundation that is current or one that is outdated? Because I don't feel like a lot of people understand that we need to upgrade the software system. We need to upgrade the blueprint. And that's exactly what you do in a designed life.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

You said that beautifully. And what strikes me as interesting, and it only dawned on me fairly recently, was that in our family, at least, so many of my aunts, uncles, including my parents, were entrepreneurs. When they moved to Canada, the first thing was providing education for their children. And they wanted you to either become a doctor or a lawyer or a teacher or a nurse or something that would offer you stability, a steady paycheck, and a pension when you retired. And then in my family, at least we all deviated from that plan and we all went into entrepreneurship, which I'm sure set my mother reeling. The thing is, our parents could only teach us what they knew. And for them, working hard was the only way to change the life, to provide a better life. So now they've provided us with a better life. They've given us those opportunities. But to your point, that doesn't mean we have to go back and do the things that they did the way they did it. We have to take that gift that they've given us and continue to evolve it and then pass down a new gift to our children, right? So that they can design differently. So if my children were to repeat the things that I'm doing today as they develop their own careers and their own lives, that wouldn't be smart either because that's not an evolution. That's just a repetition of my patterns and my behaviors.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

One of the things that I notice is most people don't change until something happens. You're a testament to that. I'm a testament to that because we feel like, you know, the saying, if it's not broke, why are we going to fix it? And I really feel like with the work that you're doing, you're advocating for yourself. You're empowering yourself. You're looking at, okay, what do I want to create? Even though we have what we have in front of us, we can create something very beautiful in the future. So tell me about how the way that you are traveling and you're setting a tone for your children, for the people that are in your ecosystem. Tell me how things are moving differently going forward as of your last vacation.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

I've always loved traveling. I was exposed to it at a young age, and I'm so grateful for that. And my husband has too. He's traveled many parts of the world that I've still never seen. And so we both value the experience of exploring other cities and cultures and lifestyles. If you're privileged enough to be able to do it, it's one of the greatest gifts that you can give your children because it opens their eyes and their minds and their palettes to what's possible. For me, travel will always be something that will be near and dear. And I don't want to wait until I quote unquote retire. Not that I know I ever will retire, but I think you have to live throughout your life. You can't constantly put things on hold and say, well, when I retire, then I'll travel. I've known people like that. And when they retire, unfortunately, someone gets sick. I've known people who, when they retire and their husband passed away. So we can't keep putting off our joy and our life and our fulfillment. That's the goal moving forward is how do I want to live and how do I want to feel every day? I want to feel free and fulfilled and peaceful, but I also want to feel like I'm serving and contributing in a meaningful way. There are seasons for things. Some seasons are, hey, I got to travel for 10 days. My season right now is I am in full dance mom mode and I'm launching a new masterclass. And so the business is busier right now. That's the beautiful joy of being an entrepreneur as well, is you get to have that seasonality in your business and in your life. But I think if you're designing from a very intentional space, then you get to have everything you want, maybe not all at the same time, but you get to at least intentionally seek it out and try to create it in your life.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

So if there was a listener on here and they were really hitting that quote unquote burnout or feeling very disconnected to the life that they were living, what would be some key words of wisdom that you would give to them?

SPEAKER_01 29:34

The first thing I would say is if you are feeling burnt out, exhausted, like you need a break, however, you would frame that, give yourself the gift of that pause. So even if it's something small, maybe you can't afford to take time off for a vacation, but maybe you can just take a day, an afternoon, an evening for yourself, or regular time. Maybe it's a predefined time every day where you say, you know what, I'm going to go for a walk at these times, or I'm going to go meditate or work out or whatever that looks like for you. But that pause is so critical because it allows you to go inward. And I think that that's where I would always recommend you start is quieting the outside noise. You mentioned this earlier. We are overstimulated. And that's the place I was at, where it was just a constant external stimulation. And that noise is training us. So I remember the day of the BlackBerry, and I would see that little red light flashing, and I would immediately snap it up. It didn't matter what time of day it was. I had trained other people that I was available 24-7.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

That is gold right there, people.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

And I think it was Maya Angelou who said, you teach people how to treat you. How to treat you. And that's one of my sayings for sure. It's so powerful. It's so true. Start with yourself. Put that phone away. Get quiet in your space, get quiet in your mind. And just deep breaths, breath work, somatic practices that are gonna quieten the nervous system. And then just ask yourself a question, a very simple question. What do I desire right now? And let it come through. And then honor it. Like show up for yourself in that. So if you desire whatever it is, if it's going for a walk, if it's a nap, if it's reading a book, if it's watching a show, honor that for yourself. And then keep coming back to that practice every day. And eventually, when we do the designed life, we go into what do I desire? And it's everything. We let everything flow out, nothing is off limits. And then we go back and do the alignment of values and desires and we start to parse that list out a little bit. So we only start to focus on a few things, but the more you show up for yourself, the more consistently you listen to yourself and honor your true voice. That's where I would say you start because everything else is somebody else taking your attention and your energy. And that's to satisfy their design, not yours.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

I really love this. If we decide, okay, what would I love right now? What would I desire? There's a lot of women out there that don't even know what they want because they've suppressed it for so long and we've been serving so many other people in the process. We know what our business wants, we know what our family needs, we know what our children need, we know what social media wants, but we don't really know what we want because we've become so disconnected from those things. Being able to just sit in that, I think is a huge thing. The other thing that you mentioned is putting the phone down. And so it's a hard for a lot of people because they get that dopamine hit from the phone, teaching them, okay, maybe looking for dopamine replacements, like outside, finding joy again, because most people don't know what joy is anymore because of that. And so it's really interesting that you said, what would bring you joy? What would make you feel fulfilled? I feel like those are some really key steps on how to really press pause, but also start to ask yourself, who am I being in this moment? And is that the Amira of the future or is it the Rubina of the past? And I think really showing up for that is really exciting for a lot of women.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

Tell everyone how they can get in touch with you and work with you. You have a beautiful podcast. Share a little bit of that stuff because I think there are some people that would really benefit from the work that you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

Oh, thank you so much. I would be honored to have you reach out to me. There's a few different ways that you can get in touch. I'm on Instagram, so you can connect with me there. It's at amira.virani. I have a website, amiravirani.com, and the podcast is The Designed Life. I drop a new episode every Monday morning. So it's a combination of solo episodes, and then I have some incredible guests. Rubina has been a guest on the podcast, so I hope you'll go listen to that. And then I actually, depending on when this episode comes out, I am releasing a new masterclass experience called Wealth by Design. We actually go into the very foundational practice of defining what a wealthy life looks for you beyond just the financial metrics and really getting into that foundational identity level of wealth. So, how does wealth feel? How does it show up in the world for you? What would make you feel peaceful and held by the wealth that you create in your life? So I'm really excited to bring that masterclass to women. You can connect to that as well on my Instagram. So there'll be a link for you to learn more about that masterclass.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

I am so grateful for you. You bring such a wealth of knowledge from your lived experience, but also all of the people that have been in your environment, which is amazing, right? You talk about all these people, Tony Robbins, Oprah Winfrey, like all of these people. Wayne Dyer, amazing. And that is in you. Your practices and the offerings that you give are literally a reflection of all your life experience. So I just wanted to thank you for pouring into people, but also just giving women the gift of being able to design their life by their own design and their own desires. And we're so grateful to have you on today.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Thank you so much, Rabina. This has just been a pleasure. And you are a wonderful host. And I'm just really grateful for this opportunity. Thank you so much.