Danny Boy Opens Up About Music, Money, And Survival

A limo at fifteen. A truck full of Babyface guitars. A hook that lights up the radio while the singer waits tables to keep the lights on. Our sit-down with Danny Boy is a raw Chicago story about talent, truth, and the price of not knowing your business soon enough.

We start where the dream meets the grind: West Side roots, church training, and that first surreal Death Row arrival that felt like walking onto a movie set. Danny shares a meticulous studio memory with Babyface chasing tone across a truckload of guitars, then opens the ledger on royalties, credits, and the hard lesson of hearing your voice earn for everyone but you. He explains how a teenage cease-and-desist froze payments across a massive catalog and forced the industry to the table. The theme is bigger than money—it’s about authorship, respect, and Chicago’s history of being the teacher without the footnote.

The conversation widens to Tupac, bounties, and the ecosystem of ego and rumor that shaped an era. Danny keeps it human: protect women, protect art. He talks about serving tables while his videos spun, the quiet kindness of a Lil’ Kim tip, and the humility of becoming “the singing” everything—waiter, janitor, embalmer—because work is work and the gift always finds you. We go deep on mental health, a partner’s suicide that changed his path, and coming out when it wasn’t popular. Loss threads the story—his mother’s strokes, both parents’ shared date of passing, friends gone—and yet his compass stays steady: service, prayer, and a voice trained by a mother who taught pitch with her hands.

We close with Chicago right now: promoters who underprice “local,” what world-class looks like in a studio, and why elders like Wildstyle and exacting producers set a standard we need to protect. Danny names his Chicago Mount Rushmore, picks Donny Hathaway as the gold standard of belief, and asks for the simplest form of repair between fathers and sons: I’m sorry it went like that.

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Transcript

Hosts Introduce Danny Boy

Danny Boy 0:00

I Matter Chung No. What's up? This is your boy Danny Boy. And guess what you're about to do? You're about to plug into the Auxiliary Podcast. Let's go. You cannot talk to me if you are not plugged into the Auxiliary. Good day, my people. I am your host, Tommy B.

Liz 0:18

I am your host, Liz Chin Song.

Danny Boy 0:20

And I'm your host, Toxic. And we are the Auxiliary Podcast. We the plug. You plugged in, you dig? Let's go.

Liz 0:28

So I'm excited today that we have an amazing vocalist, songwriter, performer, author, father, and man of God who is right here from Chicago. Absolutely. And he is one of the most genuine people that you can ever experience in every area of his life. Yes, sir. We will be having a wonderful conversation about all things human on today with none other than Def Rose's former prince, Danny Boy.

Danny Boy 1:03

What's up, y'all? What's up? That's so dope. Yes, sir. That sounds like Pastor's anniversary. I like that intel. DB in the place. What's up, everybody? That's what it is. That's what it is.

Liz 1:16

I'm so excited to have you. I am too. And I'm excited to dive into this. How are you feeling today?

Danny Boy 1:21

I am well. I'm blessed to be breathing and I'm excited to talk to y'all as family, friends at the table. So I love the concept.

Liz 1:29

If there is tissue in the space, we need to bring some closer to us. Um, because I foresee somebody crying. It might be me, but you know, I just, you know, I don't want my makeup running, so if we can get some some tissue in the space. Um first I want to say that I am one of your biggest fans.

Danny Boy 1:49

Somebody's been doing this since I was a short.

Liz 1:53

So Danny, um I met Danny when in the part of your life when you were doing the high school tour. You remember that? I remember it was it was quite exciting. It was quite exciting because Danny would walk out and the three. Um was gone. Um, and you were home. And everybody was excited because you had experienced something we all dreamed of from an artist standpoint. From a consumer standpoint, you was fine and you say these glasses with the with one dark up here and one dark on the bottom. Yeah. And when you took them off, you couldn't see nothing.

Tommie B. 3:00

You remember way.

Liz 3:03

So I just want to say that as I grew as an artist, you were one of the people that I aspired to show up as. That's so dope. So amazingly dynamics as such a young age. You know what I'm saying? The song, my favorite song by you is the song with babyface. You know what song I'm gonna talk about?

Danny Boy 3:23

It's over now.

Liz 3:24

It's over now. That was my jam. So, okay, enough of me gushing. What do you remember? Like, what were you experiencing? And you talked about it a little bit in your book, because we're gonna talk about Grand It on Death Row. And in your book,

Early Death Row Days And Babyface Session

Liz 3:40

you discussed that time. What were you really experiencing? You were getting all of the screams and everything, but what was going through your mind in that period of your life?

Danny Boy 3:51

Um, well, as as you were speaking, I signed the death row when I was uh 15 years old, as as you know, and some may not know. I signed when I was 15 years old, coming from the west side of Chicago with the jest aspirations and aspiring to sing and dreams of singing from a singing family. And uh most of my family had done gospel music. But I always like it was one time my grandmother came home from a concert, a gospel concert, and I just said, I want to be in the music business, I'm gonna be a singer, and I got up and I sang, and ever since then, but just to have the opportunity to do what I did, coming from the west side of Chicago, and that just being a dream and just being in the choir singing and wanting it so bad. And within two years, possibly things changing in my life. Where I'm in California, never been on an airplane. You know what I mean? Never never been out of the state. Well, I've been to Detroit, but that ain't nowhere. That's out of that's that's like being right next door. You know, but to get a chance to go to the West Coast, I felt like I got off the airplane and entered into uh a movie scene. It was like a full movie set. The palm trees and you know, the the car service waiting downstairs with my name on a paper. You know, I think that's the most important thing. We all stood out to the crackers. You know, it was Jackson T. Jackson Limo. Jackson Limo, it was Jackson Limos and it just said Danny Boy on it. I was like, what the hell? You know, get me. And it wasn't, you know, it wasn't a CTA bus. You know, my grandma was saying, come downstairs for church.

Toxic 5:27

Right.

Danny Boy 5:27

You know, just to have some of those things of riding in a limo and it wasn't a funeral. You know what I mean? Was something. And and then to get a chance to work with babyface.

Tommie B. 5:37

Yeah.

Danny Boy 5:38

Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, when I went in the studio, I actually I had a cold. And, you know, I went in, I tried to give them toxic when no, you know, I tried to, I don't know if I could do it today. So you know it toxic and made me regret for a song.

Toxic 5:51

In one day.

Danny Boy 5:52

Yeah, in one day. But the same thing with with babyface. Um, I went in the studio, I had a cold that day. And uh, as he was coming out, I knew it was gonna be serious because he a U-Haul truck pulled up. It was like the size of a U-Haul truck box truck pulled up, and it was full of guitars. Wow. Because Babyface was gonna play this part on it over now. But he he just he had them pull up with all these guitars, and they just kept pulling out all these guitars and him playing to make sure that he got the sound that he wanted. And you know, so I knew that it was gonna be a serious session. Oh, yeah. And oh my God. When I went in there and I was like, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be able to do it, you know, today. Man, he's like, nah, you doing this today. Hey, it's going down. Going to go in the booth. I got I got punk about babyface. So why why did you why was you saying you weren't gonna be able to do it today? Man, first off, I was hoarse, and then I think I just the thought of working with babyface. I think it just locked me up vocally. You know what I mean? And I was like, I'm not going in there and shit. Four hours later, five hours later, we still in there. And you know, to have that opportunity was amazing. And babyface still killing too. To the right. Writing and doing like that, man. You couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't. Well, we paid for it, but I couldn't, I obviously I couldn't pay to revisit that moment. That's dope. Yeah, that's it was such an incredible thing. The whole guitar thing, that that's an amazing thing for me to hear too. Like, damn, that's show you the level of the thing. They kept bringing guitars out. I was like, damn. Yeah,

Royalties, Credits, And Cease-And-Desist

Danny Boy 7:24

that I'm I'm that would have taken me to see it. About 200 guitars. Definitely a dope experience.

Liz 7:30

So, because our podcast is about Chicago legacy and like building up Chicago, I would like to spend some time on education.

Tommie B. 7:39

Cool.

Liz 7:40

And the things that you've learned. Now, in your book, you talked about um royalties and money that has been owed to you. Give us like a a little bit of information about what you experienced when it came to royalties at Def Row. Because you performed on I Ain't Mad At You.

Danny Boy 8:00

Yes.

Liz 8:00

And a couple of other records, and you were not paid for them.

Danny Boy 8:03

So I performed on about six of the records off of the All Eyes on Me album. Um I did some more on the Machiavelli album and obviously other songs that Tupac and I recorded. Um that's probably never that's never been released. Gotcha. Wow. Um and as far as records is concerned, I cut a lot of records over uh at my on my in my tenure on Death Row. I cut a lot of records. More than a hundred, more than two hundred songs, literally, because I lived in the studio. Got it. Every day. I'm sorry, was a lot of these songs yours or were they like collaborations or so m the uh probably about a hundred of some songs, two a hundred and fifty at least were my songs. What? Of working with just different producers and artists, portrait, I mean, so many different artists. If they were hot of the 90s, should make sure that he had them at least in the studio with me once. You know, I got records with Dallas Austin that's never been heard uh with so many people. And um the thing is, is at that time I prostituted my gift more uh because I was excited to jump in front of the microphone, excited to just be in the booth and do, you know, what artists love doing, what we love doing, just getting in the mic and just, you know, I don't know anything about royalties. And it took for hard moments for me to kind of to even question, you know, why am I hungry and my music is being played on the radio?

Tommie B. 9:24

Right.

Danny Boy 9:24

You know what I mean? Why, you know, now Ship Knight is not here, you know, after the demise of Death Row and I'm no longer around them, and these songs are being played. And at that time, uh, when I learned it, it was more from being phoned uh when it was a ringtone. Gotcha. I was concerned that a lot of people was rock walking around with my ringtone that they were paying for. And I wasn't receiving no money, yeah. The dividends from it. So I'm sorry, the obvious question for me is what happened to those songs? Do you have access to those those songs? And I mean, so what's what's the deal with that? Yeah, so uh what I did was after attending Death Row University for a while, and uh after not trusting just that I'm like a son issue at night and just listening to those things, I started reading for myself. Right. And I think that's what we as artists we started lacking on the business, business 101.

Tommie B. 10:21

We don't get to that point.

Danny Boy 10:22

You know, we don't get to that point until we get fucked over. Yeah, you know, and by that time I was looking at it, but I caught it right at a great time because nobody had been paid. Um so uh I was already pretty good at like, you know, articulating what I want. Gotcha. You know what I mean? Like I didn't have a problem with that on the business end, and I think I was about maybe 17 or 18 years old where I put a cease and desist letter together. Uh, and I certified that letter and sent it to Interscope Records, and it held up over about $400 million. Oh shit. Um, I didn't have any rights to I ain't mad at you or any of the songs that I worked on.

Tommie B. 11:01

Right.

Danny Boy 11:01

But because I had participated on the record, I was able to put a cease and desist letter on, and nobody was able to get paid. For how long? Uh that was on for about a year. Wow. Uh and they had to come to me and give me the minimum. Uh and they came to me and gave me the minimum. And uh that's those are some of the things that I spoke about in previous interviews when I spoke, you know, about a Phoenix Shakur, rest in peace. You know, some things that I was kind of just upset about because, you know, even at that time I was still young in the business and still learning. And I went for the minimum because at the end of me signing, when I received those agreements at that time, they said that um I would receive basically what was owed to me if I would just go ahead and just sign, you know, agree to this small percentage to aim at it. You agree to this small percentage, you know, to picture me rolling in these other songs that I did. And um I never seen any of that money that we signed to even at that time. I'm sure, yeah. Wow. Damn.

Liz 11:58

Wow.

Danny Boy 11:59

That's why they get you.

Liz 12:00

And so one of the ways that you spoke about um how they dealt with the royalties was by removing your vocals from one of the songs and having John be.

Danny Boy 12:09

Yeah, so I I

Vocals Replaced, Chicago Culture And Credit

Danny Boy 12:10

said that, and and you know, there were some discrepancies because everybody was like, oh, I seen John say some things. I sung so many songs, man, on Pac album and later heard other people singing. Yep. You know what I mean? And I didn't know anything about like I was supposed to get credit for writing something. You know, I'm just in there, you know, Pac, just Pac will walk in the booth. It was an A and a B studio, and I'm an A. He's in B. And he'll walk in there while I'm recording. Hey, nigga, tell me I drop this cold shit. Come get on the mic. Regular shit. You know, I go in there and sing and leave out of the booth, you know, and not thinking anything of it. And uh So the more John B that's are you still down? Is that the one return?

Liz 12:48

So you said that he literally followed your vocals tip for tat. I listened to it and it was like, whoa. It is you have a specific signature.

Danny Boy 13:00

Wow. And and you could tell it was Danny in there.

Liz 13:04

I was like, whoa, I can definitely hear Danny.

Danny Boy 13:06

Yeah. See, that's another reason why we do this also, because a lot of people come here and take our shit, man. Yeah. And don't give us the credit that we deserve. Well, you know, I I I look, I I used to be like, man, they're taking our shit. But, you know, Chicago has always been on the trend setting side. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I don't mind about being the teacher and, you know, students or you know, they pick things that's and I learn from someone. There's someone that's teaching me, and there's still people that teach me. You know what I mean? So what we get is is meant for us, you know, to pass down. You know, the hurting part is being looked over. Over. Exactly. It's never been taken from me. And that's my point. That's my point. It's never been taken from me. It's always been just don't forget about me. Don't forget about me. That's the point. And I think that's what we always talk about about Chicago culture, because they take our shit, then don't give us the credit. Oh, absolutely. So not I don't mind you taking it or mind you biting off the shit that we're doing. But at least say, I got this shit from this. Yeah. I got that shit from this. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Um, which we're gonna, man, it's it's so much like through the course of what we're gonna be talking about through the course of the auxiliary podcast, but we're gonna find out a lot of shit that was taken from us and not now, and we're gonna hear it from the horse's mouth. You know what I'm saying? So now we know John B basically took took a sung on the show. Shout out to John took out. Shout out to John B. We love you, John. I know it was I know it wasn't you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the people that was running this. It was the way it was, but but but but at least uh at least we we know these things now, you know. And when I when I started making noise about not being paid and things like that, I was taking off of a lot of stuff. And I'm sure. You know, you know, even they put out an all eyes on me uh movie. Yeah, if that's what we want to call it. Yeah, right. You know, shout out to the homeboy LT. Yeah, he the homie, he he put the movie together, but he dropped also dropped the ball for not putting your real homie in it.

Tommie B. 15:01

Yeah.

Danny Boy 15:02

You know what I mean? Because I don't understand, you know, how you could shoot an all-eyes on me out uh movie and not have Danny Boy, you know, depicted in it. I mean the biggest song. Which is which is cool because my relationship, you know, I had my relationship with LT and who he was and those people and the other people on the label, but my relationship with Pac was my relationship. So I didn't expect anybody else to blow me up and believe in me like he did. You cannot talk to me if you are not the auxiliary. Talk about that relationship with Pac, though. Like, what was that like? And give us, you know, saying some information about that that we're gonna be. From the time Pac got out of jail, it was like, you know, first off, I think Suge was my number one of my number one fans. Yeah. Okay, you know, on the West Coast.

Tommie B. 15:45

Yeah.

Danny Boy 15:46

You know, I don't care who came up, he would always, man, DB put things up. It was like, you know, your mama when you was little, your daddy putting you up. Everybody at the house at the barbecue. You know, hey, D B, come here. Come here. Think so.

Liz 16:04

I was wrong by the river.

Danny Boy 16:14

Like a lot of old school music. Yeah. Like he ride around listening to the stylistics, the shy lights, and got you. Yeah, you know, and he would, right, and he would tell me, you know, we would sit in the car and he'd be like, man, all right, you come on, you know that next part, I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars. And my daddy was born in 1926, so everybody didn't know. Wow. Gotcha. 1926, my dad was born on December the 25th. Wow. And so I grew up in church with my mom and my grandma, but I grew up in a tavern with my daddy. So I grew up on a drew box. Like, I sat on top of the juke box where I seen the needle.

Pac Relationship And Industry Realities

Danny Boy 16:48

Where I love it. Where I seen the motherfucker lift. Yeah, and go over to the put the record on. I seen that like from top. Pool hall. The pool hall. Like I've been smelling old-style beer since the shorty. Yeah, really. Like, you know what I mean? So some of those things that, you know, even with moving through this music stuff, I I I attribute, contribute that to m my dad. Yeah, true, you know. And then being able to go around those dudes, you know, and then and learning on the West Coast and learning some of the things.

Liz 17:15

There was an area in your book where you talked about the difference between your friends, or not the difference, but from your friends going from laughing with you to laughing at you. Yeah. And I noticed that you said that when you fell on, you had this crew together, and y'all was supposed to be looking out for each other, brothers.

Danny Boy 17:31

Committee.

Liz 17:32

And then when you fell on hard times, they turned their back on you. And then Ray J said that there was a rumor that you were strung out on drugs. You went to Chicago.

Danny Boy 17:42

Man, I went back. I went to um, I went to New York and I went to a barber shop that we usually at all the time. And I'm at the barber shop, and uh the guys just sitting around the man, the dude kept going, man, you look good. Man, you you look good for what you've been through. And I'm like, Thank you. I'm thinking he's talking about the whole death. I'm thinking he's talking about the whole death row shit. And he's saying that he studied saying that shit, and I'm studying like thanking him, you know, thanking him. And then, you know, the shop closed, so everybody started rolling their blunts up. And old boy was like, Man, you don't mind about nobody smoking around? I'm like, nah, I'm finna smoke too. So I started rolling up too. And so as I'm rolling up, getting ready, he was like, So man, you smoke? You smoke after all you've been through? And I'm like, what the fuck he keeps saying after after all you've been through? What do you keep talking about? What after all you've been through? And uh he was like, Yeah, man, he's like, tell him, tell him, nigga, tell him. So the one one dude in the shop was like, tell him, tell him. He told him, That's for you. He told him, uh, oh, he told him uh it was said that Ray J had told them that I was strung out in Chicago. I had been working in a funeral home, which was true. But I was strung out on drugs real bad. And um, you know, and then and then the dude was like, tell him the rest of her. And I'm like by this time I'm hitting the blender. I'm like, nigga, I ain't never did no drugs, but okay. He's like, tell me the rest of them, like, yeah, tell me the rest of her. And then he's like, Yeah, and Ray J say you tried to uh turn him out. Wow. I say, what? So I think that kind of now who what so that they said so this was obviously like they just making some shit up or just some shit they make it up, obviously, you know what I'm saying? But I'm saying, like, who, who, why would they even come to that conclusion? So, you know, at this time, you know, I was first off, I was uh adopted by Suge. Right? So, you know, people had a lot of respect for me at that time when Suge was getting that respect. Yeah. And um, you know, these were my friends that I'm hanging around. You know what I mean? When and and when people started, when the when death row started being investigated, a lot of them, you know, didn't talk to me no more. Gotcha. You know what I mean? And Ray J didn't talk to me no more. And, you know, and then he would tell people, man, we were never friends, and you know, and this and that. And I was kind of surprised. Right, you know, and then Ray J took a point where at one point Ray J was trying to sign a death roll, and he was over there with Suge. And, you know, so I just kind of started noticing all of uh, you know, the Holly weird shit. Holly weird shit. Holly weird shit that that I just don't like. So I kind of spoke I spoke on it in the book and I spoke out loud even in the barbershop. I started telling on, oh, since we telling, man, I ain't trying to turn you out. You did this to him and he did this. Wow. So I started telling and they got mad.

Liz 20:26

So what did you say?

Danny Boy 20:27

Um What'd he do? I ain't gonna say that. You know, I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a little I'm gonna be a little nice because you know, uh, but I just I just started saying, you know, don't try to put the the gay thing on me. All of us kind of been in a position of if we're gonna call somebody gay, all of us have been in the gay room. Is what If if it you know, and they was trying to throw it on me, you know what I mean, I guess, uh, because I was around Suge and, you know, uh even with that, like even me putting out the book Stranded on Death Row, you know, that was hard. That was one of the hardest things for me to talk about in there because I got kids, I got, you know, women that I've dated in the past and and friends, but I talked about it because I didn't want nobody else like him to try to put anything else on me. I've always been a person, like I tell them myself, like, you know what I mean? Like, because

Allegations, Power, And Industry Accountability

Danny Boy 21:15

a lot of people don't stand up to who they are and what they truly believe, not just on the sexual side, like whether it's who you're gonna vote for, whether it's, you know what I mean, what you don't like. I'm going to tell you if I don't like something. And if you don't like it, that's something you need to deal with. How difficult was that whole process for you? Because obviously it came out later, you know what I'm saying? And I know you spoke to me about some things and like way back then, you was like, sure, it was like, do this because this is a sale and did-da-da-da-da type shit. And how difficult was that process for you though? Like, and what coming out? Yeah, just coming out like I I wish I would have, would have uh, at times I wish I would have kind of saved it for a little while. Because at a moment it became popular. You know what I mean? At first when I did it, you know, I had fast. Family and friends that stopped talking to me and people that I grew up with didn't want to talk to me. Like I just instantly got this disease of being gay. And they didn't want to be around me any longer. Are you saying you would have rather waited until I would have waited for the popularity until the bat came? Because I give a shit about what a motherfucker thinks now you now you do now you do like you really on that shit. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? God damn it. Hell no. It's the popular thing to do. So and then your favorite rapper now is doing it. So who's that? Who's my everybody? All favorite rappers. Look at these niggas' mouths. Look at these niggas how they act. Look at their mouths. I'm just saying, maybe I'm not blaming on everybody. But I'm definitely not. I'm definitely not gonna let everybody blame it on me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Look at these niggas' mouths. When they were saying to me crazy words, right? And your favorite rapper out here got skirts on and purses and back. Like, bro, the shit make me not even want to be gay sometimes. These niggas got more bags than baby mamas. Like, yeah, they making braid off. Yeah, so it's popular now. So I don't know what y'all gonna do 2038 or some shit. Yeah, the new thing is. But the new thing out. The new thing, you know, niggas be niggas monkey. Niggas be yeah, yeah, niggas be rocket persons. Like these are things I'm scared of that I got, I really got death threats over. When I came out, it was people telling me, man, I'm gonna blow your shit. You fagging this and that. And, you know, said all kinds of things. That's you know, and even people like WAC 100. I hate to say things because I don't want to give them, you know, any props on y'all's show. But him saying, like, I seen something again that came over on the algorithm algorithm, and he was like, um, he caught me in, him and Su caught me in some guy giving Felatio. And I'm like, damn, this dude is the weirdest nigga. Wow. Because he know all of like you are the gay police. He knows all the gay stuff. You are the gay governor, though. Like, you are elected.

Toxic 24:03

Like, you the gay governor. Is he gay?

Danny Boy 24:07

I mean, you know, I don't know if he because I I don't I don't like truck drivers. You know what I mean? So I don't know if he's gay or not. You know what? Well secondly, secondly, it's you know, he's just not my type. And no, I don't know if he's gay, but I seen a video of him laying on his stomach naked and um being videoed. So I don't know what that was about. You know, with your booty out, and then it was like on one of the social medias, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he did more gay shit than me, to the public, than I did. I'm just telling y'all that I'm that. I ain't showing nobody nothing. Y'all ain't seen me kiss nobody. I knew when Danny Boy was invited to this podcast. It was gonna be, it was gonna be real. It was gonna be real.

Liz 24:52

You cannot talk to me if you are not putting it to the auxiliary. On page 208, if you happen to go out and get the book.

Danny Boy 25:00

Shit, I don't even remember the numbers, but go ahead. What what verse? 208, what verse?

Liz 25:04

What verse?

Danny Boy 25:05

I know the chapter. What verse is the case?

Liz 25:07

Chapter 20, is that an eight? Because I don't have my glasses on. Chapter 28. Party in the closet is the name of this.

Danny Boy 25:13

Oh, it's a lot of parties in the closet.

Liz 25:15

What's that talking about? Now that we know about the ditty parties.

Danny Boy 25:21

Wow.

Liz 25:22

Did you go?

Danny Boy 25:23

To a ditty party?

Liz 25:24

Yeah.

Danny Boy 25:24

Nah, they didn't invite me.

Liz 25:26

Uh why? Because he took us.

Danny Boy 25:28

First off, I was awake.

Tommie B. 25:29

Look at this nigga. He done talking.

Danny Boy 25:31

Even even, right. Even on the even when it comes to the Hollywood stuff, like, I thought they didn't, I thought a lot of people wasn't dealing with me because, you know, oh, he's gay. And it really wasn't that. I was telling. You was telling. You telling me. If I had shut up. Yeah, you would have been, you would have been in. I'd have been invited. You would have been invited. I wasn't going to no shit, though. All that baby oil and Do you think it was baby oil or something else? Nah, I mean, come on, nobody got that much. You know how much. I grew up with a bottle of baby oil, the same bottle. The same bottle. That shit. You know how much you know what you got to do. He said baby oil. I am telling you, and I just told y'all who I

Dick Wars, Rivalries, And Rumors

Danny Boy 26:10

am. We ain't got that much baby oil.

Liz 26:13

So Diddy is just a party.

Danny Boy 26:15

Diddy it.

Liz 26:17

It's just a party at Hollywood. Because you describe parties. Yeah. And you're telling me that Diddy's party wasn't one of the parties.

Danny Boy 26:24

First off, and even that too, Hollywood, we ain't go to them kind of parties that we're starting to hear these allegations. Gotcha. You know, first off, it's it's, you know, I'm saying it in a joking manner, but, you know, and and, you know, that's something that he has to deal with. I'm just going by what they're saying. Um, taking something from people and putting shit in people's drink and some shit in some baby oil to make them, you know, turn them up and all of that shit. You know, I that ain't no Chicago shit, I guess. And it ain't no, it ain't no LA shit. That ain't what I learned in LA. We had the baddest out there in LA. Like, you know, motherfuckers was flying out there to put people in their video. So they were first hand to us. And we didn't, we didn't have to shit, put shit in drink. Shit, you open that drink yourself. Right. That's your bottle. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's it's a little more cool, nor do I think I was hanging around people that if they knew you were doing stuff like that.

Tommie B. 27:14

Gotcha.

Danny Boy 27:15

It was a violation. So are you saying that you think that these allegations are true or false? Well, so some of these things I had already spoken about in the in my book. You know what I mean? When I said, you know, there was a bounty out on $75,000 bounty out on anybody that was on death row. And then later Tupac died. So some of the murder, the murder charges, like, you know, I'm not trying to pin murder on them, but if they said something about it, like, that ain't nothing that's like a surprise. You know what I mean? They threw all of those monster, they threw the monster mask on Shu.

Toxic 27:51

Gotcha.

Danny Boy 27:52

And it made him look like, you know, he was the local next door, next door boy person. Yeah, because. And and the part about it that that shocks me is that, you know, I've had a few times I was in the studio with Puff, right? And my experience with that, I couldn't see, I can't see that person that they're talking about, right? However, the person that they depicted that Suge was, now that I'm looking at what they depicting that Puff was, and then other people are saying it, it's like almost like it's flipped. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, damn. I mean, you heard a lot of things. You heard Suge and then whooping some ass and beat niggas up everywhere they go, but you don't, like, those are things like a woman, like you know what I'm saying, like that's what we respect. Oh yeah. We respect that to the epitome. Like, you know, you don't hit no, you don't hit, you don't put your hands on the woman, bro. Period. Like, no. Yeah. No, number one.

Liz 28:49

So I'm gonna say that if, when, you get this book.

Danny Boy 28:52

Go read it.

Liz 28:54

The on page 140.

Danny Boy 28:56

Stayed in trouble.

Liz 28:56

Yeah. On page 140 is where you talked about Puffy had a bounty out for death row medallions, and he was paying 70 75k. 75,000. The would-be thieves knew that they were going to have to hurt or kill someone in order to get the chain. Absolutely. So is that what caused the fight in the Las Vegas hotel?

Danny Boy 29:20

So I'm I'm hearing that it was over a death row chain that they tried to snatch from one of the other homies. Gotcha. But like, you know, after I think one of Suge homies got killed in Atlanta at a party, at one of Puffy's parties, and, you know, that's when things kind of started getting heated, and then when Pac was talking about coming to Death Row, you know, that's when we went into having to wear bulletproof vests. Gotcha. And having armed security around, like damn near 24 hours a day. So it's it's not things that, you know, that was rumored. You know what I mean? And it wasn't, it wasn't, you know, that we were scared, but this was things that was a re this was our reality. We was putting this on because these people had bounties out on people that looked like they was from Death Road Records. Got it. That is, you you know, for me, I mean, you know, I'm an industry nigga, you know what I'm saying? I've been around. But certain shit I wasn't privy to and didn't hear about in the way that you probably heard about it. But knowing that you was inside and saying these type of things, that shit is to me, when I even when I hear it now, it's like, it's the most shocking shit that I could hear. You know what I'm saying? That motherfuckers was really rolling around on Puffin's side doing that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Because I thought it was the other way around. And I think the whole world thought that way. You feel me? They ain't think no shit. But that's why this whole puff shit came as a surprise to the people that's not in the industry. Yeah, because they like, damn, he ain't seemed like that type of motherfucker. You know what I mean? Especially after he started doing all this brother love shit and start changing. Well, you know, that's when I seen it. Okay. Niggas don't go to that brother love shit until after they done fucked over a lot of brothers. Gotcha. You know, I didn't see the part of, you know, all of the parties.

Tommie B. 30:59

Right.

Danny Boy 30:59

But we seen this person tear up, I'm on the artist side, right? We seen this person destroy artists and family. That destroys families. Our gift makes room for us. This is what we work to do. And we seen a lot of artists that were signed over there in that situation, just like Shu, that was in that situation, that didn't eat from that. The only person that ate is Puffy.

From Stages To Survival Jobs

Danny Boy 31:20

The only person that celebrated and threw, he threw parties. Those parties was on the account of other people's gifts.

Tommie B. 31:26

Yeah.

Danny Boy 31:26

And that got to be paid for.

Tommie B. 31:28

Absolutely.

Danny Boy 31:28

There's a price for that.

Tommie B. 31:30

Wow.

Danny Boy 31:30

Yeah, it's a lot of stories about that. It's a lot of stories about that. Wow. Wow. Wow. And that that perspective is crazy, man, because it's, I mean, it's it's just eye-opening. You know what I'm saying? Like to hear it from you, you know what I'm saying? Knowing that you was really engaged in that whole process of what's going on. It's sad to see it happen. You know what I mean? Like nobody wants to see a brother that's done as much as he's done. And much as Peter Shook is done, be locked away for the rest of their lives. None of them, man. But it's hard to, it's hard to blow up balloons and rally. You know, I'm not one of them niggas that say free, free pookie. Right. And go get t-shirts for a dumb ass nigga that did some dumb shit. Right. You know what I mean? I'm the wrong nigga. Right, right. You know, a nigga was breaking in my truck a week ago. I put the foo fops on his ass, called the police. Niggas like, you calling the police? Yeah, this nigga finna go to jail. I thought I just whooped the police. I thought whooped his ass, he's going to jail. Yeah. And you calling the police. That ain't no street shit, nigga. I ain't street, nigga. I got a civilian. F-O-I-D card, motherfucker. My shit is clear. I'm a real civilian. Charleston White said, I'm a civilian. Funny as hell. I'm telling you, no street nigga, man. I sing, love God. Yeah, one of my guys is a um, one of my guys is a Muslim, and he he always tells me, like, a lot of a lot of guys, they try to turn to the nation, you know, when it when they get in trouble. But he said what the minister says is this if you do what you do and you did the crime, you gotta do the time. That's right. Nation ain't finna support none of that shit. Yeah, come over here. Now you now you're coming over here with that. You know what I'm saying? They ain't finna support none of that shit.

Liz 33:09

So staying where we were in the energy of that time frame, right? During the East Coast, West Coast rivalry. You guys are in Vegas. Um, you said that you believe a lot of that was due to beef over women.

Danny Boy 33:25

Yeah.

Liz 33:26

Can you explain it?

Danny Boy 33:28

Shit, most most shit that goes on. Even in my hood. War started. Everywhere started over some pussy.

Tommie B. 33:34

Over y'all. Y'all niggas.

Danny Boy 33:36

Some pussy started it. Yeah.

Liz 33:39

So what would be the solution?

Danny Boy 33:40

All niggas be wanting to fuck the same pussy. It's one hole to niggas. Niggas think that's the that one hole is theirs. It's the best hole. You gotta get that hole. It belonged to her. One hole is it. It's belong to her. He had it last, but I gotta take it from him. Wow. That's what they want. That's the sickest shit.

Liz 33:57

Yeah, because you said in the book that Suge's way of getting back at most people was taking their game.

Danny Boy 34:02

Dick war. Dick Wars. Dick Wars. Wait, he'll go fuck somebody, bitch. Oh, nigga, them niggas be riding around in LA looking for their girl. Shit, they be busting out windows and they girl calls. Going out looking for a girl. They girl. Yeah, because Suge done took them. Gotcha. We called them the hulk. We come down and snatch your ass up. And they just roll with a man. They just roll with them. Yeah, who ain't rolling with a hundred? At that time, a hundred 200 million. Hell, I was watching my girl. That's the nigga that got some money, $200 million. And the people that I seen him with that had husbands, that was in relation relations with somebody else. Shit. Not if he said it.

Liz 34:46

So the the story that I heard mostly in the blogs was that it was an issue between Pac and Biggie and it was over Faith. However, from what I read in your book, it seems like it was Puffy and Shug and it was over Misa.

Danny Boy 35:04

Nah, so I think it was just a little bit of uh whatever personal beef Puffy, I mean uh Biggie and Pac had, they were friends. I didn't know Pac, you know, when they knew each other. And I don't get in niggas that's friends, business, like let's say business, right? But when it became the whole East Coast, West Coast thing, that was Suge and Puffy. Ego being mixed more into it because Suge was more the street person, you know what I mean? That people were when it came to street shit, that they looking out, looking at him, you know what I mean? And all of us had our muscle from being around this person that had muscles in the street. You know, um, but no, he he was the he was the strength of that. And I think just from being around, being around Death Row and who we were around, you know, we kind of reap a lot from that. But when it comes to like the the women, that the the the dick wars, I like to say, starts when Suge's trying to get back at him. You know, I can't I I could do a whole book

Faith, Mental Health, And Coming Out

Danny Boy 36:05

of the naked women that I done seen in Sugar Room that Damn, damn, what's the what you doing here? I didn't see Kamala, but I did see other people. You know what, you silly. So basically, he did what he was doing on the streets with other niggas chicks. He did that shit in the industry too. Oh, for sure. Niggas, yeah. For sure. Wow. It was hard for me to watch a lot of TV shows and listen to a lot of records. Uh-oh. Now you might have to say some shit. I'm just saying.

Liz 36:35

I'm just saying.

Danny Boy 36:35

Who?

Liz 36:36

I'm so stressed.

Danny Boy 36:37

Give me one name. Like what? Well, of a motherfucker that should kind of fuck with that, you know what I'm saying? That y'all gonna think I'm whack 100 if I start doing that.

Liz 36:46

You don't have to do that.

Danny Boy 36:47

You don't gotta do it. You Jasmine Guy. Okay.

Liz 36:49

I don't have the last one. Huh?

Danny Boy 36:52

I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

Liz 36:54

Okay, so read the book.

Danny Boy 36:55

Okay. Read the book, read the book.

Liz 36:57

Read the book, and you'll find out what stressed me out about Danny and Mary J.

Danny Boy 37:03

Yeah, because that's a wow.

Liz 37:04

And apparently it stressed out KC from Jose as well.

Danny Boy 37:07

Yeah, KC's a bitch. Okay. But we can move from past that. No, no, we can stay on that. I have no respect for that. No, we can stay on that. But wasn't he your boss? Nah, I don't have no boss. That's some shit that he kind of said when we were out working. She ignorant. You funny. You know, I used to have a lot of respect. You know, any artists that sing probably been in a group and and thought that they were either Casey, JoJo, Dalvin, or Devontae. We all picked ourselves, you know, whether it's vocally or the looks. Uh so I looked up to those guys. And then after having the opportunity to leave Chicago and do what I did, and then later end up singing front ground for those guys.

Liz 37:50

Explain to me what that is. What is singing front ground? Because I sing background sometimes.

Danny Boy 37:55

What is how backgrounds is when you sing in the back of an artist, and front ground is when you sing for an artist. And I let people depict it. Y'all go look at the videos.

Tommie B. 38:06

Yeah, you figure that out.

Danny Boy 38:07

But there was a time that, you know, Casey and JoJo needed help. Needed help. And you they were my heroes, you know what I mean, um, musically. And uh I've seen some things and was on the road with them for a long time. And the way that I lost the gig with them, and then at the time that I lost the gig uh was disheartening. You know what I mean? Because I looked at them as big brothers. Uh and at that time it was I needed it to eat and to survive. And after times when I went to them when I first got with them, they were struggling, you know, because of their addictions or whatever the things that they were going through. And the other guys shot out to Showtime. We we we stood in a gap and did what needed to be done. And we watched them grow from not barely getting paid what they needed to on shows into getting double increase. And that never increased for us. That got you, you know. So it was a great experience uh just for history, but it's something disheartening to think about. Let me touch on that because when you say not getting paid what they're supposed to have been getting paid, um that was during what time period? Because you would think that Jodice can go out and perform and get top dollar, you know what I'm saying? It all So once you once you get out there, you kind of learn that these, you know, these uh promoters are looking for a certain thing and they know what they're paying for. And, you know, after a while when Casey and JoJo was going out and falling out on stage and falling off of stages, not being able to sing, not being able to show up. Um to me and Showtime, you know, Showtime handled Casey, and I'm not saying that he sung his parts or whatever. He just he stood in the gap for KC, whatever he needed. Showtime can engulf KC. And I was JoJo, I have always shout out to Jojo, always been good to me. Um, and when JoJo couldn't do what he needed to do, I sang for JoJo.

Tommie B. 40:13

Gotcha.

Danny Boy 40:14

You know, um, and but when it came to the promoting side and the business side of that, you know, promoters knew that they were getting artists that was gonna fall out on stage. Got it. So they were getting that fee.

Tommie B. 40:25

Got it.

Danny Boy 40:25

You know, that they would give them. It wasn't the big cash tag for them. So we took them from all right, Casey and JoJo falling out on stage to all right, come on, we're gonna keep them sober until we finish this gig and then we can do it. You know what I mean? We were babysitting and monitoring our friends, really. You know, making sure that they were, man, we're gonna wait. And some people couldn't get them out of bed at times. We could. And some they couldn't open their mouth at times and sing on the mic. We did. Let me ask you this. So let's talk about like the choice that they had of bringing you on board. Um, obviously because you were great, one of the greatest singers ever, but who decided that? Uh,

Fathers, Adoption, And Apologies

Danny Boy 41:10

shout out to Tiny. Tiny uh was uh Jojo's wife. Okay. Uh and Jojo had an accent about me, so they kind of connected. I don't even know how it happened. I just end up on the audition. Gotcha. I was nervous about it, man. And you know, I think about I sung for them about six years. Wow. Sung background for them and traveled the world with them. That's incredible. And just to touch on that, because you are uh uh a lead singer as well as a background vocalist. I've done professional background background work for a lot of different artists. Um what is it about background singing? Or what you would call front ground, no background singing. What is about background singing that uh can take you out of say put pulling yourself down here to like from where you used to being as a lead singer and saying, I'm gonna get out here and do background vocals for this artist and this artist. What that that was part, as I say them again, I went to Deathborough University, but doing those backgrounds is a part of more learning gadget that I had to do. And what do I mean by that? Um singing in the background for them gave me a whole different perspective. Uh, not only did it connect me back to my peers, you know, people that I had grew up with in an industry I hadn't seen in a while, it gave me an opportunity to rub elbows and promoters to see me again. But, you know, it's such a humbling experience. You know what I mean? It's like singing in church on Sunday morning. I've really never been paid to sing in church on Sunday morning. Right. I sung for the love of it. Oh, and to be able to do backgrounds for people that you grew up to. You grew up listening to is big enough. But I could sing background for anybody because you get an opportunity, man. What better place to learn is back on that mic and see what those people in the front, that front artist up there. I'm watching. I'm seeing what works and what don't work. You know what I mean? So I had an opportunity to kind of train on stage and see what works. But let me say this, and everybody needs to know this. And I'm gonna look at the camera when I say this. Danny Boy is probably the Well, take out probably, because I No, not probably the best performer in the fucking world. Wow, dope. No, this is real. When you get a Danny Boy show, you're gonna get theatrics, the greatest singing, mic control, which a lot of people don't know about, and all of that shit. So Tox, you were gone. Uh-huh. But we were talking about this with him, and we said the same exact shit. Really? So it should be confirmation to let you know. When two or more are gathered. Thank you. Yeah. So we let's do that. That's not no smoke long. Even when hearing it, it's not the money. You know what I mean? Because a lot of us, especially those that realize that gift, yeah. Those are the ones that suffer the most. Those are the ones that get the bag less. Last. Last. Yep. Those are the ones that get looked over. If you notice the dopest artists, the dopest singers, they're not getting paid the most in this industry.

Liz 44:09

So since we're on that topic, I want to talk about the local Chicago scene. The local promoters.

Tommie B. 44:17

Fuck them.

Liz 44:19

And the misconception about value. Can you talk about now? I want to. You were on stage with Tupac Shakur.

Danny Boy 44:30

Yes, I was.

Liz 44:31

You were at was it the Source Awards where Source Source Awards?

Danny Boy 44:36

Saturday Night Live?

Liz 44:37

Yeah. When when uh when Suge said, if you don't want nobody dancing in the videos, you was with him, right?

Danny Boy 44:46

Out of town.

Liz 44:46

Beat out of town.

Danny Boy 44:47

Out of Illinois.

Liz 44:48

Out of Illinois. You lived in, from what I read, you've lived in LA. You've lived in Atlanta. I think you were in Cleveland.

Danny Boy 44:57

Las Vegas, Cleveland. Las Vegas.

Liz 45:00

And so you are, and then you've also performed in Out of the Country, in Amsterdam, et cetera. So you are a world-renowned vocalist. From what I understand. Just based on definition, right? How do you get the Chicago promoter scene to understand that you are not a local artist?

Danny Boy 45:26

You don't. Because uh what I've noticed uh, you know, from being back home, they just they don't care. They're not looking uh to even give you that respect. You know what I mean? At the time of a a promoter booking me, I was number 10 on a billboard. Thank you, Toxic, you know, with this song. We were number 10. And the promoter said that they didn't give deposits to local artists.

Tommie B. 45:52

Wow.

Danny Boy 45:53

They didn't go past a certain amount. A local fuck you too, if you're watching this. And I'm doing you a favor not saying your name. Wow. But uh I was surprised by that because I never seen this nigga nowhere. Right. Out of all the places I've been. So the person that was local was him.

Tommie B. 46:10

Right.

Danny Boy 46:10

And the probably his poster worker. Those were the local people. We love poster workers. You know, and I do. I'm just saying his poster worker was local to him because that's where she

Chicago Scene: Promoters, Value, And Legacy

Danny Boy 46:20

works in his neighborhood. Right. Here in Chicago. She's not a fucking traveling poster worker. Right. I haven't met one of those yet. You said you said the local factor. For the on if we're speaking on the local factor. Right. You know, uh, if if you're a truck driver, you drive local loads, and then there's loads that you take on the road. And uh I had an opportunity to take my load on the road. And to hear uh a small ass promoter, you know, and those are tactics that they use to degrade you, to give you what they want to give you. Yeah. And, you know, I had to do it because I needed that stage. Yeah. So the promoters kind of know, you know, you want to be on that stage with the next artist that's coming in town. But, you know, I've lost the fever of, you know, trying to blow up. That's a that's a lot of why a lot of talent leave the city of Chicago. Yeah. Because we have unfortunately we have to go other places to get it. And you know what? I think that's that's part of what our show is about too. Because culturally, sometimes people don't know, they don't have the information, dog.

Tommie B. 47:29

Yeah.

Danny Boy 47:30

They don't know what they don't know. And a lot of times we think people just know shit. They don't know what they don't know. So sometimes we gotta educate them about artists like you and other artists and understand the dynamic of what you are dealing with. You know what I'm saying? And like even sitting here in the room with you, this is an amazing thing for me. You know what I'm saying? Because even though I've been in the studio with you and everything, it feels different because it feels like I'm talking to Danny Boy. That's so dope. You know what I mean? Right. And I know your history and understanding like all the things that you have done and the impact that you have had on the music industry. You know what I'm saying? Like in this search motherfuckers that um you you you look at and you be like, damn, you did all of this shit. You've been on the biggest Tupac records ever in history, dog. You know what I'm saying? That then it this shit'll never go away. You know what I mean? Then you come back years later and have top rec 10 records. Unheard of. You feel me? Yep. Uh so that's the other thing that I want to hint on. And I know we're gonna keep going, but it's like there's no rules in this industry no more. So for you or anybody else, excuse me, to think that, oh, I'm too old or this is over with. No, bro, you got so much shit to do. And the vocal. And we got some hot records. Hot records. We got a whole album. Y'all don't understand where Rick Ross gonna go. We got a whole album. Exactly. Don't call it out people. Well, yeah, but they everybody needs to jump on board. What the fuck we got going on. But my thing is, is that you got so much ahead of you. You know what I'm saying? And um, nobody could take away your talent and your ability to sing the way that you fucking sing. Wow. And that's what's gonna win over everything. Thank you, God. We see all the stupid shit that other motherfuckers is doing now, and they falling by the wayside. Yeah. You got it. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, go ahead. I digress.

Liz 49:29

You cannot talk to me if you are not putting into the auxiliary. Things that I noticed was a theme in your book was your humility. Your ability to go from being on that kind of stage to the more to wait table, knowing what you had done. And when you told the story about having to serve little Kim and hoping that she didn't notice you, can you tell me about that? What was the what was that time in your life like?

Danny Boy 50:05

Uh first off, that's one of my things I thank God for constantly is the gift of serving. I didn't get that until I had to serve a table. Um until, you know, in my and at that time of me serving a table, working in a restaurant as a waiter, Pajés, I was on the radio and the videos was still being played. And you know, some people would, you know, I remember guys coming in, taking a pen, uh, taking a glass and giving some more water and hitting the glass, you know, being funny. Oh shit, got you, got you certain water and da da da da da da da da. So, and I was doing that to eat and survive. You know, and I didn't understand why I was on TV and had to do that. I didn't understand why people knew my name, and you know, I didn't know where my next meal was coming from. Um, but I'm grateful that God always put me on the right flight. I'm always, it may not be a destination I want to go, but I always seem to be that I get something from it. And from that, to be able to serve the tables and then Lacim walked in. Uh, I wasn't there, I don't think I was there a week. Wow. And she came in, and it was about 20 to 25 people, maybe a little more, at the table. And me and this guy, he was working the table, he's training me, and I had to work the table with him. So we would we broke the table off. Well, you work one in. I

Fun Segments: Favorites, Food, And Mount Rushmore

Danny Boy 51:35

made it my job to stay away from her. One, because I knew she knew I was from the whole East Coast, West Coast thing. I didn't know how, you know, she was gonna react to that. And then, you know, this like uh appear, I wasn't on her level, but like I'm an artist. The embarrassment of artists. And uh I'm serving the table. And uh, man, they they spent more over three, three thousand dollars on eating, if I'm not mistaken. And look him, uh, when she was getting ready to leave after they paid the bill. They tipped already. She reached over to me when I was leaving out, and she had told me uh, she was like, you know, I'm proud to see you doing what you're doing, and I know who you are. She took some little money and put it in my hand. And that money helped me with my bills that week. Wow. And uh she didn't do it as a fronting thing. Right. Right. I've actually never heard her speak on it, or you know. Wow. Uh, but just to know her heart.

Tommie B. 52:29

Yeah.

Danny Boy 52:30

And at that time, my lights was getting cut off. Sheesh that, you know, I had a couple of days to figure it out. And uh for her to be one of those people to help me through that moment was amazing. But that that whole process gotta be like just humbling and just for you to go through that. But it just shows your courage, dog, in just those situations and just being able to do that shit, though. You know what I'm saying? Some people don't.

Liz 52:54

Because some people won't do it.

Danny Boy 52:55

Some people won't do that shit. They'll be like, especially not that. Not waiting no tables or sides. That was one of my favorite jobs. And I made a lot of money. But I'm glad we're touching on this because this is important, because imagine you being at this level. Like, this is this is some deep shit. Because imagine you being on this level, and you have to go and get a job and be seen by people who you know are gonna fucking recognize you. I started working at the funeral. And I drive in the Hearst when I work in the funeral. Right. Even at that time, you know, people see me in the Hirsch and I pull out. Danny boy, what's up? Wow. What the fuck are you doing in the hearse? I'll be like, Death row and pull out. But you know, it's uh it's a humbling experience to be able to serve somebody. Absolutely. You know, I don't think you can feel But you've been doing that all your life. But it took for you to be in that position to know that you're in service. Oh, oh yeah, absolutely. And I accept the position even now. And let's stop all the fucking rigor morrow about, you know, being having money and not having money. It ain't about that. Oh, it's not. It's about what you desire to do that's gonna make you happy in life. Yeah. And I figured that shit out. You know what I'm saying? At my age now, I'm like, man, I don't give a fuck about none of that shit no more. I do. I'm trying to not. Yeah, I know. I know, because you feel in that little shit. You say that's rich nigga shit you talking about. Yeah, you feel in that little age. I don't care about money. I need gas. Right, right. I need cash apps. Right, right, right. We don't care about money. We care about cash apps and sales, right, right. Is what it's saying. No, no, no, no, after you've just gotten a hundred thousand dollar deposit yesterday. Well, see, you don't let this nigga talk what he talked about. Well, look, it ain't about that with me. It ain't about how much money you get all the time. I feel you don't because when you do got some bread, it do make a difference. But I'm gonna say this when you ain't got it. What I what I did do notice is that, you know, when you're able to be happy and at peace, yeah, that shit is more important than anything than that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm honest, honestly. I mean, and you know because a lot of people with money, man, they ain't happy. Ain't happy. We see what's looking at. I mean, look at Puffy, where he's at right now. Bro, all that money is giving all up. Bro, he would give all that shit up just to be on the street peacefully, dog. And and not have no shit like that. That's what people discredit and forget about when they do get the bread. It's like, dog, it's more important to have peace and to have, goddammit, you know, happiness.

Tommie B. 55:42

Yeah.

Danny Boy 55:43

And and not to sound like no corny motherfucker, but I'm telling you, that shit is more important. And even in this, um, I mean, you could do people wrong and get a check tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. If you want a check, if you want a money, you want a bag real bad, do somebody wrong. Fuck somebody over. Yeah. That's how I come. You tomorrow, you to be paid, you can go eat, take your ass and get your hair done, whatever it takes. Yeah. Whatever your heart desire. Yeah. If you're one of those

Pass The Aux And Closing Thanks

Danny Boy 56:10

people. But I just chose not to. I work at the funeral home. I work there. It's a it's it's something I've always been interested in. Um I love the business of serving in that capacity. And I'm not a person, you know, to beg. I want to work. I do construction. I call tell people I'm a Jamaican. What you need? I can do it. I can do, I could do hair. What you want?

Liz 56:32

You can do hair.

Danny Boy 56:33

I can cook. I like, I'd rather work for it. But like I said, I, you know, that I think that's an old school thing. Again, I blame on my daddy. You know, my my old man, man, when I told him I signed a death row, I'm on the radio hot. People running up to the car while my daddy's sitting with me. He'll roll one down. He be like, you need to get a motherfucking job. Even him seeing all that shit. Nigga, damn. You see, we got chasing down the street. I got about 20,000 into my pocket. Right. You gotta work, nigga. And dah dah da. You know, so those things I hear my daddy talking, rest in peace all the time. That nigga say, get up and work. That's some real shit. Get up and work. Right. My man, my daddy, I can't remember time. I probably remember my daddy coming to church with me. He always bought my suits for church, but he probably came to church with me three times. But when I sang, man, my old man would look at me, boy, even though he's a drunk, he was drunk when he did it. He'd be he get looking and crying and shit. I knew that this was my gift. If it can move an old man like that, that give me the real, I don't care what it was. I didn't just get through singing on the he seen me on Saturday Night Live. That nigga cussed me out that next morning. He ain't give a fuck about none of that. Man, I don't give a fuck about no TV, boy. You don't mention me. Fuck is that? You know, so I I'm just I'm just humbled by my upbringing. How I came up. Yeah. You know, how my grandmother and mother showed me that you can, you know, I I I'm grateful that throughout the times that I've I didn't have money, that I've never been hungry. I'm grateful for that. Let's talk about that too, because I I don't know if I'm overstepping what y'all got on. You are planning to continue. But I'll but I'll say it anyway. Like, what's your so your upbringing in Chicago? First of all, where did you grow up at? West side of Chicago. Born and raised 19th and what's 19th and Trumbull. That's Ogden and Trumbull. Okay. A couple of blocks off of home, goddammit, and a couple blocks. Absolute, absolute. Yeah, uh off of 19th and Trumbull, uh, Chicago Avenue and Drake, Chicago Avenue in Lockwood. Yeah, yeah. You know, I grew up in the So you lived everywhere like all us. In the middle of it.

Liz 58:53

What schools did you go to?

Danny Boy 58:54

Uh I went to Orr.

Liz 58:55

Okay.

Danny Boy 58:56

I went to Crane for school, grade school. I went to Ryerson and I went Cameron. Uh I graduated eighth grade, though, in middle school from uh Crown Academy. So you know you're from Chicago. We done went to a couple schools. Wait, you went to Crown? Yeah. Crown Academy? Yeah. Right around the corner from me. I went to Penn. For real? Oh, yeah. Penn, yeah. I went to Crown Academy. Wait, and you you you a couple years younger than me, right? Yeah, so I'll be 47 on Halloween. Yeah, so no, you weren't in school when I was in school because we was beating y'all's ass on the basketball side. Yeah, you played basketball. I just wore it.

Liz 59:29

I was the one.

Danny Boy 59:30

I just wanted to be in the choir. Right.

Liz 59:33

Speaking of choir, you sang in the children's choir, um, didn't you?

Danny Boy 59:36

What?

Liz 59:36

Um the Chicago.

Danny Boy 59:38

So I made it to the Soul Children of Chicago. I made it in one rehearsal and left. Oh, the Soul Children. Yeah, one rehearsal. One rehearsal. It was fine. So why you leave? I never really sang myself, like even with the groups that I was with. I never liked singing like in the whole group and choir shit.

Tommie B. 59:56

That's crazy. Really?

Danny Boy 59:57

Nah, man. My group, man, I was. And most people start there. And with my group, I loved being with the group, but like them niggas was hard-headed. Okay. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wanted to do certain things that are. They wanted to better with like-minded people. Yeah, man, nah. Nah, I told them, like, I quit my group, and they was like, man, I was like, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna go good with Shorty Capone and da da da da da da. No, man, I ain't. They went and told my sister who was managing, they told on me and shit. Next thing you know, I was on death row, them niggas was calling. We need to start another group. I bet we do.

Liz 1:00:27

No. I bet we do. Nah, we need to get it back together, play.

Danny Boy 1:00:31

No, I mean, I don't mind. I sing, you know, I don't mind my single nobody, but the whole group and choir shit, I'm too old.

Liz 1:00:37

So there was a petty moment in your book when you were talking about singing in a group when you were on American Idol.

Danny Boy 1:00:43

Oh shit.

Liz 1:00:44

And you were with two guys, and one of them got passed, and you was like, how the hell does that?

Danny Boy 1:00:50

Yeah, American Idol ain't looked at the city.

Liz 1:00:52

Tell us about that. Because that was another moment where I when I saw you on American Idol, I was like, I snuck my ass on him.

Danny Boy 1:00:58

Hold on, I didn't see that in a group. You, I mean, I didn't see it. Yeah, you were in a group of American Idol. When they do the group part. Oh, you're talking about they put you all together. When they put you all together. Yeah. They put me, I forgot the dude's name that I was with, but he went a long way on the show. And was an asshole.

Tommie B. 1:01:14

They're looking for a story.

Danny Boy 1:01:16

And he was an asshole, man.

Tommie B. 1:01:17

Like, that's not the story for those type of shows.

Danny Boy 1:01:20

Uh and uh No, I was on Make Man. Really? Yeah, it was. Paris. Paris was all about the story. On Puffy's Baby. Well, so the last one, the Making His Band. Oh, not Make another band. I was gonna ask you about the parties. Making his band was the one. No, I wanted to. You didn't go to the parties. No, I didn't go to another party. Don't get C his land. Nigga don't want to go to no party with you. Nigga's denying all parties now. How many baby boils you got? You know what? Cut this shit off right now. Cut this shit off. He quick. And this show is sponsored by Johnson and Johnson.

Tommie B. 1:01:53

I shouldn't even told you.

Danny Boy 1:01:55

And this is sponsored by Johnson and Johnson baby oil. I should have said a damn thing about nothing. Freaky oil is crazy. But yeah. It's all about the story, is what I was getting. He don't care nothing about no damn talent. As many shows as he had, you know he didn't care about like talent. Like Will Willie Taylor from day 26 is my brother. Yeah. So we could go through all of those stories. You hear all kind of stuff, man. And they don't care nothing about no talent. That shit is for the show. Man, even when I got cut from American Idol, man, when they took us in that room, I was so confident because of the other great singers that was in. Oh man, it was man, fuck me. It was some good singers in that room. It was this person. I'm gonna call it a person because it was a person from nobody knew if this was Girl Boy, or we don't know what this thing was. What this thing was. It's crazy. That thing could sing. Who won that year? Not that thing. He's outrageous. The human, the person. Kelly? No, you say who won that year? Is it Kelly Parkson? I think. Oh, that was. Is that Kelly Parks? No, not Kelly Carson. Kelly, uh the other girl, the other Underwood. Kelly Underwood. No, one of them. I didn't watch them like this. Kerry Underwood. Yeah, Kerry, I think Kerry won that year.

Liz 1:03:10

So the guy's name was Scott.

Danny Boy 1:03:11

Scott. Asshole Scott. Asshole Scott. Billy Scott.

Liz 1:03:17

That's so funny.

Danny Boy 1:03:18

So he was hating on them. Yeah, not with hating. He can't sing. Like, I'm not, like, especially a nigga that can't sing. Like, American Idol is fun, but ain't no singer I'm scared of. Hell no. I don't play with no singers. Hell no. None of them. You be better off licking the ocean playing with that. Nah, nah, nah. I don't mind. We can sing together, but we're not finna. We're not finna start using the scared and singing. But you know what? But you know what? Fuck no. I'm singing God there for heaven with the best thing. I love that about you too, because I'm gonna tell you what. It's a humility part of you that be there. But when a motherfucker starts talking about what you do, and I ain't humble. I can hang some drywall, I can cook. You ain't finna fuck with me on none of that. I can make an ugly nigga smile when he did. But I'm not, no, no. No, I'm not going with that. I try not to play in those kind of areas. Right, right. I respect, you know, other singers, but nah, American Idol is just like a show.

Tommie B. 1:04:14

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:04:15

You know what I mean? Because it was, it was, it was other awesome singers that was in there. And uh they got when they came in and cut the room. I mean, I couldn't even cry because I was like, shit, I had to get cut from Death Row again. You know what I mean? But uh they said that it was because I was signed to Death Row. When Death Row started doing this promotion uh at that time that I was coming out with an album. Damn. And you couldn't have no type of social media. Well, I couldn't do the voice. Yeah. Because I was, because I did making his band. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's crazy because I got called up for the voice uh before I got a call back from uh Sloop since he's had Death Row. Oh, for real? One of the producers was like, man, we want you on the show. Like, they put me all the way through. I didn't have to do nothing of the auditioning. Damn. I kind of passed on it to thinking something was gonna happen with the next Death Row site. Gotcha. We'll talk about that on the next podcast, I guess. Gotcha. We don't say nothing about that. Unplugged. He wants to. Unplugged. Because you got definitely unplugged all parts. You have a podcast.

Liz 1:05:11

Did she say unplugged?

Danny Boy 1:05:12

Yeah, definitely unplugged. Now we unplugging all the way from in the room in there. They don't want me to talk about it. No, no, no. You can talk about in in uh wait, when you say in the room, what's the round? Oh yeah, unplugged. So yeah.

Liz 1:05:25

So so the I'm not on death row, though. So on your book, that is available now.

Danny Boy 1:05:32

Yes, it is.

Liz 1:05:32

And it is a good read.

Danny Boy 1:05:34

Thank you.

Liz 1:05:34

Um they see it. Yeah. So in your book, it says stranded on death row, right? And there was a theme that I noticed throughout your book. It was a couple of things. But one of the things that I noticed throughout your book was that you have experienced near death on a lot of occasions. Can you tell me what that is? Have was like as a young man. Because being from Chicago, I know that a lot of young black men experience the reality of the possibility of dying every day when they leave out the house. But you were in the plane crash.

Tommie B. 1:06:15

Yeah, that's great.

Liz 1:06:16

You because your pants were soiled. Yeah, you were not in the car with Suge.

Danny Boy 1:06:25

I wasn't in the place where I should usually be. I should have been.

Liz 1:06:28

Right. So tell me how it feels to just tell me about because I can't even imagine the kind of question that I even need to ask you. So just please tell me about that energy in itself, how you've moved through that.

Danny Boy 1:06:41

For me, that is the compass of Stranded on Death Row. You know, it wasn't just about my tenure over at Death Row Records. Stranded on Death Row just seemed as if um death has always chased me. You know what I mean? Or death has always been uh around me. A lot of of us have people that die and we never get uh the correct help we need after the loss of a parent or a sibling or best friend. We just go to sleep and try to wait till Monday comes and try to see the best Monday we can get. And stranded on death row for me was is I just it's just a time in my life that I noticed. You know, like my brother was born October the 31st, Gary, a year before me. And he didn't live long. And I was born the next year, October the 31st. You know, and my mother had seven strokes when she was pregnant with me. Wow. And that's an incredible thing, though. Like October the 31st, he was born the year before. Yeah. And you was born the year after the same day. Same day, same party. Wow. My mother was at a Halloween party, and they had to leave that same Halloween party to give birth. And, you know, so and my mother had seven strokes when she was pregnant with me. Wow. You know, throughout her pregnancy and giving birth to me, she had suffered a stroke. And my mother used to sing, and she lost her voice. And she had a speech impediment. So, really, uh, out of all of my sisters and brothers, and even her 12 sisters and brothers, like what would have sound crazy to you sound regular to me. Like I was my mother's interpreter at a very young age, like eight years old. I could talk and my mother look and say what she said, and that was from the courthouse to public aid, from public aid to the hospital. I was able to hear what she was saying. But, you know, and then I lost my mother at 15. Right? I lost my mother at 15 years old. Um February the 8th. And uh that was in 95, February the 8th. February the 8th, 2011, I lost my dad. The same day, you know, that my mom died. And I lost two sisters a little bit before that. So as you hear me saying all these lost, you know, even before it popped, right? You know, I was losing Pac, and it seemed like death had surrounded me. I couldn't, I was, I couldn't escape that. Like people that I truly cared about. And, you know, after I the the music business kind of got to me a little bit, I went to Cleveland and um I started dating someone that committed suicide. When he committed suicide, I was already in training or in thought of how to commit suicide. I didn't know how. Um wait a minute. What do you mean in training? What do you mean by that? So, you know, I just um, you know, things that came up that there was times that I knew that I was like, you know, I was trying to figure out how to kill myself. I didn't want to shoot myself because, you know, I didn't want my kids to feel a certain way, or if I took pills, I didn't want this, you know. So I was training my mind, trying to figure out what's the best way for me to kill myself. Wow. And, you know, in the midst of me doing that, I met someone that had nerve enough to do it. Wow. That nerve have nerve enough to kill himself. Hisself. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, you know, I met this dude as I talked about in the book. Uh that's kind of what made me come out publicly because uh it wasn't nobody's business, you know, what I did or what I do. Um, but I I was uh I guess living a little down low life in Cleveland and trying to get away from escape problems and when going through this. And uh started talking to this guy by the name of Anthony. And uh about five months after us talking in December, uh I went out to do a show, backgrounds for Norman Connors. He and I, we chilled that Friday. We talked Saturday morning when I got in. Saturday, I had to do a sound check. He didn't answer no more. I was going back, I was in Florida and to fly back to Ohio during the winter. Um, couldn't get him until that Sunday morning. I was in the airport and my phone rang and uh it said his name. So the guy that answered got on the phone. He's like, This is Danny. I was like, what's up? Who is this? And he's like, This is Danny. Like, yeah, what's up? He was like, My brother, my brother, my brother. My brother, my brother, and I'm like, he's like, My brother killed himself. Like, who's who? And he's like, Anthony. He hung himself. So this guy took a, took my necktie and uh put it on the back of a door hinge and stepped off the trash can. And I post that on uh, I went to the media, like social media, and I was like, wow, finally feeling someone again, and they committed suicide. And I put a couple of hashtags behind it. Wow, hashtag, you know, hashtag this, and then I said hashtag Tony, R I P Tony with an I to make it appear as if it was a girl. And uh Oh, so you were still a little hesitant about when it came out. What made me come out was the comments that I got during the time, you know, uh, because what happened was it was like, you know, well, you know, you know what the Bible said. These are the people I was going to church with, and they was like, well, you know what the Bible says about suicide? And I was like, what did it say? I don't know. You know, and these were people that I have been in choir rehearsal with that have husbands, right? You know, and uh they were sucking dick on the side and fucking everybody else, but they negated away from those things because that's what people do. They we love to remove ourselves from our sins and let's point to the next person's downfall. Yeah, you know, so they wanted to point out, oh, you're going to hell when you die and suicide. And I kept hearing that and kept hearing that. And I knew different. You know, it uh I knew what the Bible says. Uh uh I know what I learned from myself from learning. And I rebuked that online, and then I came up and I was like, R.I.P. Tony, and I put his picture up, and then somebody was like, Who is that? And you know, that's kind of how that's what it started. Wow. Yep. So R.I.P. him. Uh I actually I'm grateful for that. Cause uh, you know, I'm just not grateful for his death, but in the midst of it, I'm grateful for the story that I got from it.

Tommie B. 1:13:44

Gotcha.

Danny Boy 1:13:45

It saved my life uh because I don't I I don't have those suicidal thoughts because I seen the effect firsthand of what it do to people. Um and what it do to the people around you, too. Oh man, that thing messed me up, man. I've been around death a lot. I couldn't understand how a person could do that to themselves. But do you know what put what put you in that space to even want to be there? Yeah. Like, no, I'm asking what what got you in that space? Is it because I mean music music had slowed down? You know, I mean, even with the music, like, you know, we like to say music, but you know, when this, this hasn't, this is not my hobby. This has always been, you know, how I like I lost relationships because I believe in music. I've lost important relationships. I'm talking about people that I was dating that that it said to me, hey, you know, try to do something else. And da da da da. And it was like full power. You ain't fucking with music, I ain't fucking with you. You know. Ain't that ain't that I'm gonna let you finish, but ain't that a um that's a sad reality about people that don't understand what we do with music and how how much time and emotion and um how much of yourself you gotta give to it. Sometimes you gotta let everybody go, family, friends, and everything to concentrate on your talent and your gift. And that's what people even would say with me, like, you know, my emotion, my emotions come, especially when it comes to music. You're not fucking with me, you're fucking with my mama.

Tommie B. 1:15:16

Right.

Danny Boy 1:15:16

You understand? What do I mean by that? I just explained to you. My mother had seven strokes when she was pregnant with me. I've never heard her sing. I knew the reaction she's got when she heard me sing. I know who taught me how to sing. My mother that couldn't talk. Would show me with her finger. And all I heard is the stories about how she did and what she did. Wow. So when you interfering with my singing shit, I'm emotional about it because like this for me, this is how my mother lived. This is all I have left of her. And I had this before she died. I know that it's a God-given thing. I felt like he just like she lost it and I picked it up. So I have to do everything to protect that. So when you were singing, that's interesting as hell because so when you were singing, your mama would literally tell you when you was hitting the notes at uh-uh-mm-mm, stuff you would eat mm-mm. That it what did it sound like to you?

Tommie B. 1:16:10

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:16:10

And mmm, down, down, up. Wow. And I understood everything that she said. Wow. Everything. That's amazing, man. That is like what you were saying. That that that was your that was your first language. Like her her exactly. It was almost like it was almost like a Spanish kid, a Spanish kid being born and knowing Spanish. Right. Like I was born, I could hear my mother mind, I don't care what it was. I talked for her, I spent more time talking for her than I did in school. Wow. So I sing for her. And when somebody plays with that, because I I kind of let you know where it comes from. Yeah. If you if we do business, I'll let you know this gift, it's not mine. Right. I let you know that it's not mine. I let you know where I got it from. And if you play with that, that's like that's on you. Yeah, all of us played your mama. Right. Your mama, not mama. Right. So if you want to play the mama game, that's on you if you step into that field. I'm willing to play it. Right. Because I'm a protector. Yeah. So when you hear me talking crazy in interviews because I felt that I've been treated a certain way, or you know, something has been said, I feel like you're abusing something that I won't allow. That's amazing, bro. But yeah, when it comes down to that, it's serious. Yeah, yeah. Serious. I go to war. I ain't scared of no nigga. No nigga. You said that about Silk here. Yeah, and then say it in front of him. Right. I if you did something to me, I noticed one time. I noticed this in my life from working at the funeral home. We only get your body once. We pick you up from the hospital. As we take you to the cemetery, we're not getting you back. Motherfucker can't kill me twice. You can't hurt me twice. So ain't nothing I'm not gonna say that I don't feel. And if you got a problem with it, you gotta deal with it. That ain't tough for nothing. Deal with it the way. Oh man, tough niggas get involved. That ain't tough. Yeah. Puss ass out of here.

Liz 1:18:16

So there was a moment in your book that you talked about there's a lot of depth, right?

Tommie B. 1:18:20

Yeah.

Liz 1:18:21

But the one that hit me the hardest was Elsie Stamps.

Tommie B. 1:18:25

Yeah. Wow.

Liz 1:18:27

So how being on Earth now and being aware that you no longer have those people? Oh what is your relationship? Because Suge adopted you, correct? Do you feel that the adoption was a business situation? Or is he showing up for you in as his son today, given that you no longer have the people who were assigned to you?

Danny Boy 1:19:09

I get a little emotional. Speak about my mother. That was my protection. Sometimes protection isn't about holy sword. Like arm security or anything like that. Sometimes a spiritual is more important. And I've needed that protection for a while. I'm a prayer because I get that from my parents, my grandmother. Sometimes you need somebody to pray for you that you know is genuine. And when I talk about people that it's no longer here that was truly genuine, it's a hard thing. Because you know, it's so many people that's just full of shit. You know, yeah, I was adopted by Suge. I was adopted by him. My mother was in the hospital. Uh I didn't know she was dying, but she was going through uh this had been her third heart surgery. And um Suge came to me. Actually, he had sent some flowers to the hospital. My mother called me and she thanked me that I sent these roses. And I'm like, You up and I didn't send nothing. You know, he had sent these flowers up to her, and he uh sat me down and talked to me, and he's like, Man, you know, I just feel like you my responsibility. You know what I mean? I got you out here, and I'm gonna make sure you told your mama, your mom, your grandma's a dumb, I'm gonna make sure that you're good. And um, I try to be of my word, and I take everybody else that when they say something to me, I take it for what it is. And I think that's the only thing a person can give away and keep at the same time is their word. And um dude just didn't keep his word. And that didn't mean you know, a lot of people was like, Man, you were spoiled, and what you think? You didn't do this and you didn't do that. It's not about because I don't want anything for free or didn't want anything for free. But I did need somebody that was to look out for me.

Liz 1:22:17

So um Suge was your legal guardian. Did he actually adopt you?

Danny Boy 1:22:23

Yeah.

Liz 1:22:24

Was he married to Michelle Lai?

Danny Boy 1:22:26

Uh that was uh that was after the fact after Suge had been locked up, Michelle and him.

Liz 1:22:35

Because I was just wondering, like, would that have put her in a position of mother figure to you?

Danny Boy 1:22:40

Nah, she was she was cool. But when uh when Suge did that, she was uh that was the time she's she had just begin to start creeping around with Suge.

Liz 1:22:50

Oh, got it.

Danny Boy 1:22:51

So she wasn't really she wasn't really his girl like that.

Liz 1:22:54

Got it. But when when the when everything went down and he went to jail, were they married?

Danny Boy 1:23:01

Uh so I heard that they got married. I heard he actually she it really wasn't a real marriage, she married his brother-in-law, actually. Oh and it was like a fixed marriage. Norman.

Liz 1:23:14

So I'm asking because in the book you described her as a baby pincher.

Danny Boy 1:23:23

What the hell is that? So the kind of person that will pinch a baby when you're not looking for not looking.

Liz 1:23:31

Oh, that that that and you said that you had definitely been pinched.

Danny Boy 1:23:36

Yeah, for sure. Let me get a napkin. Uh for sure. Um you need more, you need more napkins than you. I'm good. Oh, you're good. She seemed to be cool because seeing us when her and sure kind of first started their relationship, you know, I knew of it. You know what I mean?

Liz 1:23:52

Um, she was with Dre?

Danny Boy 1:23:54

Uh, she wasn't with Dre at that time. They had broken up.

Liz 1:23:57

Okay.

Danny Boy 1:23:57

But she was Dre's baby mother. And she was just an artist on the label. And when they first kind of started talking, you know, I was there. So I knew. And I thought that she and I I had a a good relationship, actually. I thought she was like a big sister, or you know what I mean? Because I excuse me, I've seen her in compromising positions, and I've helped out. You've been around too much.

Liz 1:24:28

Okay. So she wasn't a mother figure if you've helped out.

Danny Boy 1:24:32

No. No, no, no, I'm not nothing like that. She was just m Miss Chalet had an alcohol problem.

Liz 1:24:38

Okay. Oh, her. Gotcha. Got it. Thank you for clearing that up.

Danny Boy 1:24:41

Yeah, thank you. I'm glad.

Liz 1:24:42

Yeah. I ain't fucking nothing behind it. Clearing that up. So you helped her well-being.

Danny Boy 1:24:49

Yes.

Liz 1:24:50

Gotcha. As you said, I helped out. I'm like, yikes.

Danny Boy 1:24:56

Yeah.

Liz 1:24:56

Okay.

Danny Boy 1:24:56

Even though he needed the help, I did. Oh no. You need it. Tinky winky.

Liz 1:25:05

Oh, God. You know what? Yeah. I was just wondering because given that he adopted you and then she was his person that would she take on.

Danny Boy 1:25:16

The person I remember is oh yeah. Dimples is what I call her.

Liz 1:25:21

Got it. Got it. So what is your relationship now with Shug?

Danny Boy 1:25:27

He's in jail.

Liz 1:25:29

He's in jail. So you don't have one.

Danny Boy 1:25:32

Fuck you have a relationship with somebody in jail.

Liz 1:25:34

I know a lot of people who do it.

Danny Boy 1:25:36

Oh, well, that they're crazy. But okay. I mean, if he's my brother, okay, sister cousin, but like we we don't have, like he called. He used to call sometimes when he wants to be a little messy. You know, he'll call me.

Tommie B. 1:25:47

Talk shit.

Danny Boy 1:25:48

Talk shit. Tell me to try to send me off to do some goofy shit or you know, like being funny. You know, the funny type stuff. Um the last time we talked, uh, we talked about me coming out. You know what I mean? We kind of joke. We just get on the phone and joke. You know, he laughed about, you know, he was like, why the fuck I ain't paying him? I was like, how? How? So you can get rid of me. Right. No, but he was like, man, you could have told me you you let Nas take all your motherfucking money. Nas X. That's what he told me. Oh, that's funny. He let the little game ever take your money. He was actually actually gave a real funny man. Oh, but give a fuck who you fuck. So he gave a real funny response when he found out. Wow. Okay. But uh I'll talk to him even if he called, just because I'm just not the person to forget what a person have done is has done for me. Uh it it was one point that he was like a big brother, like a father figure to me.

Liz 1:26:49

Got it.

Danny Boy 1:26:49

You know.

Liz 1:26:50

And so as a father now, because the father of three, right?

Tommie B. 1:26:54

Yes, sir. Okay.

Liz 1:26:55

And so as a father, given the your biological father that you had, and then having Suge as a father figure, how do you show up as a father now?

Danny Boy 1:27:06

Well, it's another hard one. Um, so my son, my my baby boy, Damarion. What's up, boy? Uh that's my boy. He's down in Atlanta. Uh that's my youngest. And then I have a middle child, uh DJ. Uh Danny Boy. Danny Boy Stewart Jr. Um he's actually, congratulations to him. He's one of uh, he plays G League, and now he was just added onto the Bulls roster. He's dope too, for real. He's real dope. He's dope for real. When I was saying it's it's a little, you know, this is another touchy subject because he and I have been apart for more than eight years, ten years probably. Uh he just don't like me. And um, so I I think. Answer the question. I'm blessed with my daughter, Ashley, my oldest. My two kids love me. And I do and try to be there for them. And as far as DJ is concerned, I watch him as close as I can from between the internet and when he's playing a game. Even when I don't understand the game, I watch it. People are always sending me stuff about him. And I'm always just writing in his inbox. So maybe one day he'll read it. You know, but you know, there's some things like I said that I mean chasing music. I think attribute to a lot of uh neglected time missed. Um and everybody don't understand it. Whether it was just in relationship, I guess whatever happened between me and his mom, maybe it was this whole music thing, because that's all it could have been. It's just, I'm just a dude just trying to chase my dreams. Uh I've never been known as a person not to want to be in my kids' life. I got other people that wish I was their kids' father, so to say. You know, out of not just, you know, for no monetary reason, but just because I'm I'm I'm good at kids. I'm good. I've always had a spirit of helping a kid or, you know, something like that. And, you know, it's hard to celebrate all these things when uh you can't celebrate the whole. Yeah. So I just pray about that. I fathered the best way that I know I can. Um I've heard this there before, the manual didn't come with it. You know, and for the things that I've messed up, I pray to God that God forgive me for the times that I wasn't there and the father or the friend or person that I wasn't able to be. And uh my prayer now is that, you know, one day that'll be fixed. Yeah, you know, um a lot of times with kids like that, those type of issues, especially when they don't understand from the perspective of you know what you were doing at the time and what was going on in your career and things like that, they would never understand. My dumbass came out in the middle of all of that. Like me and my daddy ate me. And the sacrifices. Sacrifices, but they'll never understand, they'll never understand that shit until they're put in that position. The kids. And I'm glad you said the kids, the the the baby mothers. None of them. Nobody will understand. When it comes down to this music shit, no, none of them would understand. Especially if God told you something. Exactly. If God told you something in a direction that you are. See, and I've done a lot of things, like, you know what I mean? Like construction. Yeah. And I'm I'm in the funeral home almost three times a week, embowing. I'm not in that singing, I'm in, I'm working in the back room. Right, you know, uh painting, cooking. And out of all those things that God has gifted me to learn the extras, the extra talents, my gift has always stood out. What do I mean by that? You know, I was the singing waiter.

Tommie B. 1:31:05

Gotcha.

Danny Boy 1:31:06

I was the singing janitor. I was the singing. Oh, that's everyone was that. No matter what I thank you, God, no matter what I did, yeah, the gift never left me. And people always recognize that. Yeah. You know what I mean? And they just put that other title in there. You know, you can be a pregnant if you want to, but that's that, oh, that's the singing pregnant. Right, right. You know what I mean? You can't run from it. Yeah. Yeah, and I think I think once once he gets of age, not he's already of age, but once he gets to that understanding age, see a lot of time kids think they grow at 25. That's his last shit he told me. I'm grown. Yeah, yeah. You're not called, I'm a grown motherfucking man, is what he told me. Yeah. Well, let me say, let me tell him this, and I'll tell him this personally, that you don't get perspective, the right perspective, until you actually get a lot older, until you mature a little bit and understand, until you can understand from those until you go through some shit.

Tommie B. 1:32:00

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:32:00

And until he has a child.

Tommie B. 1:32:02

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:32:02

And if, you know, I don't want to say that I'm, you know, I'm grateful for the kids that I have, but until we go about the right way of doing things, that we not just, you know, just fucking to be fucking. Right. You know what I mean? And then we end up with a kid. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's a true love there.

Toxic 1:32:19

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:32:19

You know what I mean? Like, I think there's a lot of things that's missing, you know, throughout that. But I'm I'm grateful. You know what I mean? My daddy, my daddy raised my sisters and brothers. And that's all I've ever known is, you know, him to they all got their daddies. But my daddy was a good man to other people's kids. And I I've raised some kids that wasn't mine, you know, as well. But to be able to raise your own junior and be a part of his life is something I would never, you know, never refuse. And that's just something until he has a child, probably. Hopefully you go about the right way and end up with the right person. That's gonna. One thing I liked about being an old man, baby, because my daddy got my sister Celestine. And Celestine had her mother rest in peach. Celestine is 10 years older than me. Okay. Okay. And Peaches got her own mother. I was a grown man and I still couldn't figure out how to. It took a while. I was like, oh, we got different moms. That's my sister. Okay, cool. I got that part. But how was my mother and her mother in the same room when I was younger? Gotcha. I couldn't understand it. And my daddy wasn't like, my mom wasn't going for no pledge, it wasn't a lot. Right. Polygamy or whatever. It wasn't none of that. It was the respect that parents had then. You know what I mean? No matter what.

Tommie B. 1:33:39

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:33:40

My sister, my daddy or her mother, or my mother never stood in the way of my daddy being a daddy to her.

Tommie B. 1:33:47

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:33:48

Or even us co-mingling as siblings. Yes. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's something that's real sick in our community. Like, you know, sorry our dads went out in the city and made babies and everything like that. But you gotta know your people.

Tommie B. 1:34:01

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:34:02

And that's start with knowing your siblings. Yeah. Let's start with knowing them. Let's start with breaking that curse of knowing where you come from and you know what I mean? Knowing that, oh, that's where I get that from. You know, so you know, so I pray for the day that it'll be here between my son and I. It's the only other nigga I know named Danny Boyd. Right. Right. So I don't know how the fuck we're gonna get away from it.

Liz 1:34:22

So I have a question.

Danny Boy 1:34:24

Nah, we're praying for you, man, on that for real.

Liz 1:34:26

If you could have had your father or even Suge say the thing to you that would soften your heart for whatever you might have held for them, what would it have been?

Danny Boy 1:34:43

Give me that one more time.

Liz 1:34:46

As a son. Looking at the father figures of your life as humans. What could they say to you to soften your heart for the things that you felt that they failed to do?

Danny Boy 1:35:02

I'm sorry it went like that is enough. I didn't even expect a check from it. I'm just sorry because I felt like he really cared for me. I felt like that. I felt like he really appreciated my gift. I felt like that. So after everything went the way that it did, just a simple apology is enough. Why? Because should get no anything. It's just another nigga that got some money from the hood with a dream, just like I got a dream. Mines is singing, his was pushing records and organizing and putting things together. And that's what he was good at, and we see that from the talent that he put together. Yeah. But I don't believe that he got the right manual.

Tommie B. 1:35:52

Right.

Danny Boy 1:35:53

I don't believe that nobody really set him down and showed him how the business really go. Yeah. You know, and and you know, quite frankly, he hasn't done no less than the rest of these fuck niggas do when they sign you to their label.

Tommie B. 1:36:07

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:36:08

Unfortunately, we get a label, our people, we get a label, and we do the same thing that we were mad that you know, white labels did to the oldest thing as man, they did them like this, and we do the same thing to them. And it's been it's just over and over. And I just expected more from him.

Tommie B. 1:36:25

Got it.

Danny Boy 1:36:25

You know, as far as my father's concern, uh, damn, I hate he took so long. Born 1926, and to make me, damn, I was old. The nigga was old when he made me. That's definitely he was like 50 something when he's 50 something. Yeah, December 25th, 1926. And uh, but the stuff that I the years that I got from him, he lived longer than my mother. And the years that I got from him and the and the things. You know, hearing him say go get a job is what makes me wake up in the morning and I can go hang some drywall. And get up tomorrow and go and drive a hearse. Or, you know, I do what it takes to get it done. And I don't want to steal from nobody. You know, every time I just want your chest dude. Every time I tried to sell weed, I smoked it. So you not just feel God had me on the path, so you try to do the right thing, at least.

Liz 1:37:19

So on today's episode, what we learned is Danny Boy Stewart has a book out called Stranded on Wednesday.

Tommie B. 1:37:29

But don't start with what we learned yet. Well because we gotta take him through the fun segments.

Liz 1:37:34

He hasn't done that. I thought we were ending.

Tommie B. 1:37:36

No, we can't end up. We can't end on the the shit that the gallery.

Liz 1:37:40

I thought it was great.

Danny Boy 1:37:43

I'm gonna cry all the way home. I'm gonna drink this motherfucking wine. You know, call my guy cussing out. No, we gotta be digging up. We gotta give him my brother the fun segments first. So we're gonna give you the we're gonna do that. No, we're gonna we're gonna end on a happy note. Okay.

Toxic 1:38:00

We just can't imagine that you get it.

Tommie B. 1:38:07

So the fun segment. So one of our first fun segments is to bring some light into the room.

Danny Boy 1:38:13

You know, uh, we're gonna do the listening party. We got a segment called the listening party. Now, I we got this from uh Leon Rogers and Zach Boog from GCI. Okay, and they they didn't call it this, but this is our thing. We stole it from them, so this is what we call it. So it's listening party, right? We got um, you can choose any artist, dead or alive, right? Um now they have a concert, or no, not a concert, but the listening party, and uh the artists themselves are hosting it. Okay. So in this listening party, like I said, dead or alive, you get to choose who it is. So whose listening party are you going to? They're hosting it. Dead or alive? Dead or alive. One artist? Only one man. Wow, Donnie Hathaway. Donnie Hathaway is the host. He's going through a whole thing. Shit, we in there crying. Shit, get another drink, Donnie. Donnie and Danny, I can hear that. Why do you pick Donnie? So to the so to the probably the kids that's watching this that don't know nothing about Donny, why are you picking Donnie? Donnie, sir. Mr. Donnie Hathaway, an emotion mover. Not only just his uh lyrics and his song, his life story was incredible. Um and the sad part about it is he suffered a lot from depression. And a lot of niggas is depressed. Oh, absolutely. Whether they say it or not, they can look happy, they get home, they fucking dog don't listen to them, the cat pissing in their bed. It's a lot of shit going on in niggas' hearts and houses that they don't say anything about. But Donnie, oh, to sit at the bar. And Donnie's about to get another crown royal, please. And he's about to sit down, yeah, and go through and take you through those records. Yeah, yeah. So even when it comes to writing music for me, like Toxic could tell you, I ain't really the one to get in the studio. I don't want to do no party records.

Tommie B. 1:40:47

Right.

Danny Boy 1:40:47

Fuck them club records, that's the hardest records in the world. That shit is hard. I know I can't get it. Two more times. Let's get it again. I can't do it.

Tommie B. 1:40:56

Right.

Danny Boy 1:40:57

I'm with you on that. I'm a moment singer.

Tommie B. 1:40:59

Gotcha. Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:41:00

Oh, nigga, somebody died. I could write the best. I somebody just died, song. I'm with you. Donnie sung you through things, man, and it it felt oh, thank you, God, because I just got it back. Stevie Wonder said something to me as my song was playing on uh they called me like a surprise. I never talked to him. And he got on the radio, and he said something to me that I believe about Donnie. He said, Man, you sung that song and you made me believe it. Oh, wow. He said that. Yeah. Wow. It made me believe you. That's what I say about people that I believe it. Like that's how I determine what I like. That's if I believe what I like. I need to believe it. This is what I this is what we told you about you before he even came in. Wow, thank you. We believe you. Yeah. The conviction. It's something that comes in when Donnie gets on the mic and you hear him sing them songs.

Tommie B. 1:41:53

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:41:53

You know, that the the a song for you. He was going through something. You know what I'm saying? And even for myself. You know, I man, I love singing and I can go sing and nobody even be knowing what you're going through. Yep, absolutely. They don't know that your rent due and your shit. God, my cat ran out the house before I left. I gotta try to go go back and forth. Well, I don't know because the way you sing, a motherfucker know what you go through. Every time I sing anything, I was like, this nigga's going through something, nigga. And no, and I feel it all in my soul. I'm like, he knows it's something serious with this nigga because he's it's something in there. This ain't just something. So he used to literally come in the studio and I have we have written a song or composed a record because of something he was gonna be good that we knew he was making. In his clubs, you know. If I didn't come out before now, them niggas would have pulled me out. I was like, did I did I think you think I wrote this on you? I sat there and talked to D Loud one time. This nigga's all in my shit. And we had we had written a song for him and he be coming, this motherfucker, he be crying. He'd be like, Tox, y'all just spoke what I was going through. You know what I'm saying? But that's the true shit. And that's what music does for you, man. That's what music is supposed to do. Yeah. That's why I respect, you know, good artistry. Yeah. You know, you can't play me, you can't play me anything. I don't want to. Your pocket was born in 1920. 26. Yeah, you understand? You done. You understand full radio. When radio was radio, what no fucking TV? Okay, we're going to the next. All right, so with the with the rest of these, because we'll be here all day talking to you. Look, we giving quick. Okay, go ahead. It's gonna be quick segments. All right, are we up? The big back segment. All right. Now the big back segment is a playful segment that we talk, you know the big bats. Yeah, when they love food. No, man. You got a big back. Go ahead. We're talking about the people that that's the foodie. Oh.

Tommie B. 1:43:57

Why are you name shit? Why you have a big bat? Let's keep it.

Danny Boy 1:44:02

My bad. So the we got the big bat segment is the Chicago foodie. So local foods. What's your what is your favorite Chicago food, go-to food? Now we're gonna do the sh the favorite Chicago junk food and the favorite Chicago, like just regular dinner food. Okay. That's something that we that we got. Now you do know before he answered this question, you do know he's a chef and he owns a restaurant. What is this? All these things. This shouldn't be hard then. So he's so. Cheese doodles, nigga. Okay, hot cheese doodles. Vittners with Leon. The cheese curls. Vittner cheese curls. But the cheese doodles is hot. The doodles is what it is. Yeah, doodles when it was really hot. Yeah, cheese. Right. The motherfuckers real hot. Okay, so that's the junk food. Now, what's the your like the favorite examples like a Italian beef who dipped in? Italian beef dipped soggy. And I'm a chicken here. Wings with miles sauce. So whose wings?

Liz 1:45:10

Whose mouth sauce?

Danny Boy 1:45:11

Good lord. Yeah. Whose wings, whose mouth sauce? Whose wings and whose mouth sauce? Good one. So I could walk over to Wales and get some wings. Oh, so you West, you do West. I'm on the West side. You can't do a wheel with those wings. Nah, nah, nah. So no Coleman's, no. Coleman's, Coleman's got good rib tips. Coleman's got good ribs. They got good rib tips. But that that that that salt, that's all that mouth sauce them A-rabs got. I don't know where they're getting it from. Which ones though? No, whales, them. Them niggas got whales. They not, yeah, they're not even selling. Whales in there. They sell to the biggest.

Tommie B. 1:45:44

They prefer air, right?

Danny Boy 1:45:46

Whatever fuck they is. I care less. Arabs, I don't give a fuck. All right. You're wrong, nigga. You better go to the next because I don't fuck with them neither. Let's go on to the next set. The next set. Fuck them coming in our neighborhood selling bacon. I don't fuck with them. I don't like that shit. That's a real conversation. Because they don't eat that shit. No. All right. All right. You better. Well, he already next segment. Let me save it. It's called Let Me Vent, but we've been doing that shit. You ready? I think we're going to do that. Mayor Johnson. We're gonna skip right now. No, why y'all doing that? Mayor Johnson. He's been venting all this one. Fuck Johnson. Okay. Go ahead. I don't know why y'all let me get him. We definitely skip. Y'all ain't said nothing about his nation.

Tommie B. 1:46:32

Yeah, we're not doing nothing. He already did.

Danny Boy 1:46:35

We not do it. We do the Chicago favorites. Okay, no. So Chicago favorites, right? This is well, we'll go through a few of them. What favorite Chicago comedian? Do you have one? Favorite Chicago comedian. You only get one. Bernie Mack. Bernie Mack. Favorite Chicago vocalist. You only get one. Favorite Chicago vocalist. Shaka Khan.

Liz 1:47:00

Period.

Danny Boy 1:47:01

Favorite Chicago rapper. Favorite Chicago rapper. Would I gotta give it to him? Wouldstyle is the first person that took me from, you know, I was doing gospel and singing in church.

Tommie B. 1:47:15

Really?

Danny Boy 1:47:15

And that's the first nigga that took me in the studio to do some RB shit. Wow. I would watch him with the original Crucial Conflict. You kidding me? And watch them dance and rehearse. Wow. And I see how I do remember that. I was watching how Hardy was on the night. I do remember that. Oh, that nigga took me to the studio, bro. Wild is the reason I'm into this video. I do remember. What I say about Wild Style is Wild Style is to Chicago what DJ Quick is to cap. Yeah, and he's like, he's he even even, you know, saying it about you, Tox, you know what I mean? It's it's deeper than just production, which Tox and I get an opportunity to call Tox. I have a lot of respect for him. The plethora of knowledge that uh uh Toxit have. Thank you, man. And another thing, even with Wild Style, Wild Style is very knowledgeable. Yes. You know what I mean? Because I don't give a fuck what contract it is. I call that nigga and I'm able to talk to him. About it. And the sweetest heart. Yes. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and I ain't saying it's just, you know, because he's family and nothing like that. Real, genuine people. Another person that has been looked over, left out, absolutely, stomped on, and still able to get up and help those other guys. When the whole creature conflicts gate together, he's flicking to put them together. Yeah. Another example of what I be talking about, and we're gonna get them on here too to talk, but niggas like Timberland and all of them in the TV industry will tell you that they get style was one of their favorite. Favorite ones that all the time. All the time. So it's like these are the things that people never really know. And if most people look and be like, man, who is that?

Tommie B. 1:48:49

Right.

Danny Boy 1:48:50

And now I know, like you said, that a lot of people that even forgot them, Kanye should have been reached. These are a lot of people that that's the one thing our uh in the city that we have is once we get on, we don't reach for each other. Not all of us. Yeah.

Tommie B. 1:49:03

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:49:04

Because before I even met uh before Toxic and I started working on the record toxic that reached to me years before. Said, let's work.

Tommie B. 1:49:10

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:49:11

But it's a lot of niggas that know you have talent. That's the one thing that's different about other cities.

Tommie B. 1:49:15

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:49:16

Them niggas work together. They in the studio all the time with them. Them niggas trying to figure out how to get everybody on some publishing. Yeah. Get some checks and get on the show. Us, we get the bag. We kind of scared that this dude's gonna come up and we ain't gonna call him out and da da da. And that's one thing that we gotta stop here in the city.

Tommie B. 1:49:31

Absolutely. Uh uh actor, favorite Chicago actor.

Danny Boy 1:49:35

Favorite Chicago actor. Shit. Favorite Chicago actor. Let me give us an example. Yeah. So you got Lorenz Tate. Okay. Favorite Vice Lord, I'm the people. Favorite GD. Come on, let's talk about like Favorite B D. I got a lot of favorites. To some niggas that matter. To some niggas that matter. Favorite corner got that. Favorite corner to hang out on, nigga. Favorite weed spot. West Side, Chicago, right over medicine. Okay, so let's do your. We're gonna do the uh let's do the Chicago Mount Rushmore. Oh, that's gonna be fun. So this is this is Dirty Mount Rush. This could be rap, RB, or whatever, just entertainment. Wherever. This can be whatever you want it to be. It doesn't have to be in entertainment. It could be, these are your your Mount Rushmore of Chicago people. Absolutely. So Earl Washington.

Tommie B. 1:50:34

Earl Washington.

Danny Boy 1:50:35

Shaka Khan.

Tommie B. 1:50:36

Shaka Khan. You love Shaka Khan.

Danny Boy 1:50:38

Kusha Conflict. Twister. Twister. Do a die.

Tommie B. 1:50:43

We only got four of them.

Danny Boy 1:50:44

Wait, what's it? Mousha Rushmore is. There's only four? Mount Rushmore is a little bit more. We need to put some more faces up there. Okay. Go ahead. Put your face up there. So think you can think about it. How the fuck I'm gonna get up there if I didn't say anybody else. I'm not supposed to say me. We can start over. R. Kelly. No, I'm just kidding. Let's start over. Okay. Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore. Four people. Harold Washington. Crucial Conflict counts as one if that's where you're going. Okay. So Harold Washington is one. Harold Washington. Alright. R. Kelly. Two.

Tommie B. 1:51:16

Crucial conflict. Three. Twister. Four. I agree with that. I'm with that. Alright, now.

Danny Boy 1:51:24

This is this is our my favorite stripper from Chicago. This kid. This kid. This kid. And my favorite pastor. This is our last segment. Because we gotta get this nigga out of here. Ah, my favorite pastor. Favorite church.

Toxic 1:51:42

The last segment is past the oxygen.

Danny Boy 1:51:44

Wait! I want to hear something. No, no, I don't, no, no, we're not doing that shit at all. Last segment is past the ox. Who? Oh, past the ox. Oh, nice. Like you know when you pass the ox. Exactly. When you pass the ox, that means you trust the person's uh their taste. If you give a person your ox core, then mean like I really trust your judgment and your taste and everything that you got going on. So this is what we do. When it comes down to this, who would you pass the ox to for us to the same thing that we did with you? Got you on the platform, on a on a uh podcast. Who would you recommend to plug in? Plug into the ox. Just like plug in the oxygen. There gotta be music.

Liz 1:52:33

Just Chicago.

Danny Boy 1:52:34

Yep. Yeah, say, damn, I don't need to. And we talking about, we're talking about, like when you think about it, like somebody that you feel has had an impact on you, but the culture in Chicago, and that you would consider like this is a person that y'all need to really talk to. Talk to Wild Style and talk to him alone. Him alone is a story. Why? Because I think again, um, and because I was there in the mix, like I remember the first set of niggas that went out trying to go to LA to get deals. Wow. I can't speak from a side of do or die and twisting all of us. We all were doing it almost at the same time. Same time.

Tommie B. 1:53:18

Yep. It was.

Danny Boy 1:53:19

But I only can speak from a standpoint of where I was. And to watch it from the ground up. To watch that blossom. You know what I mean? We all flew out there damn near at the same time. When we flew there, it was almost unheard of that everybody that left left with a deal. You know what I mean? And reason why I say him is because you know, some street niggas that kind of got into the music business that he put on. You know what I'm saying? They didn't know nothing about business. They just had, I mean, music, they just had maybe the business sense or maybe the money. Got it. But dude sat behind that board on a lot of shit.

Tommie B. 1:54:00

Amazing.

Danny Boy 1:54:01

A lot of shit, man. Like he's like a the youngest old nigga. Like I know. Like for real, like a lot of stuff in like his heart when it comes to music, and you know what I mean? I'm talking about the wild style that when they was doing moves and dancing at that time.

Tommie B. 1:54:16

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:54:16

You know what I mean? That was putting these things together. And I think that a lot of these artists got to hear from people like Toxic and them and wow, especially when it comes to this music, because we were talking earlier about a standard.

Tommie B. 1:54:29

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:54:30

And it was a standard. It's a standard when you go in the studio with these guys. That a lot of people say they want to be in the music business. And they probably think they surpass them because they've gotten into the business and done certain things with. To me, with shit that don't matter. Like certain artists, I don't look, I don't care you work with that artist. You got by because that shit is trash. You know what I mean? When I come in the studio with toxic, I come in knowing that I gotta have my shit together. Because he understands this business and it's out of the city of Chicago.

Tommie B. 1:55:00

Yeah.

Danny Boy 1:55:00

We got our own Dr. Dre's. And he ain't local. You know what I mean? And ain't local, right? You know, so see these to see them guys, man. I would love to just see him and you guys to see y'all all in both of y'all in the conversation as like two wizards at the table. So when it comes down to passing ox, since you got a relationship with him, you got to help us get him on here. So you got to put in the word. That's gonna be a good one. You gotta vouch for us. Put in the words. Hey, and get them here. Hey, hey, okay. I got you. Hey, can you get him on there for me? Absolutely. Well, we we appreciate you for coming, bro. We told you what this was when you came, that this is about celebrating our own. We don't want nobody else celebrating you and making you feel great elsewhere, or that you gotta go elsewhere to get the love and and the love and care, you know what I'm saying, for you as a person and your art that you deserve. So we want to give that to you. So uh Miss Liz Toussaint. Toussaint? Is this how you pronounce it? It's Toussaint. Toussaint. And I just want to say before, and I just want to say before Liz go, is you miss relations? Listen. You crazy. No, that's a last name. I had to think about this. Oh, it is. She was like, I don't care.

Liz 1:56:18

Yeah, I don't have to think of that. I don't know if we're related. I am a blood Tucson. Okay. I don't know, but I've never heard in my family anything about her.

Danny Boy 1:56:28

About her.

Liz 1:56:28

Alan Tucson, I am blood related to.

Danny Boy 1:56:30

I just hope you're not, because I said a lot of stuff about her and I don't want to be talking about your cousin. Derek. Yeah.

Liz 1:56:36

I don't know.

Danny Boy 1:56:36

I like her now, though. She's okay.

Liz 1:56:38

You like her now?

Danny Boy 1:56:39

Not really. Well, somebody said she wants to talk. Not really. Maybe we can get her on the show to talk to her.

Liz 1:56:43

I learned so much today.

Danny Boy 1:56:44

Just go.

Liz 1:56:46

So on today's episode of the Auxiliary Podcast, we learned that royalties need to be registered in order for you to get paid, and that sometimes you're having a good time in the studio, you still gotta do your business.

Danny Boy 1:57:04

That's right, yeah.

Liz 1:57:04

We also learned that Casey is a bitch. Yes.

Danny Boy 1:57:07

Oh, that's terrible.

Tommie B. 1:57:08

You did.

Liz 1:57:09

That's what we learned. Okay, and we repeated it.

Danny Boy 1:57:17

And he's not as straight as he appears. Jesus Christ. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Y'all didn't learn that part. I did. Thank you for watching the auxiliary podcast. Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe to our channel for more dope content. We can not talk to the middle of you want enough delivery.