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🇪🇸: SIN FILTRO con Ibon Zugasti y Pau Zamora | Episodio 5
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Episodio 5 — DÃa duro, actitud intacta
Hoy sÃ: entrevistamos a Pau… y vaya dÃa le tocó contar.
Su equipo vivió uno de los peores momentos en carrera: dos caÃdas y el abandono de Rosa y Vera. De esos dÃas que duelen de verdad.
Pero esto es la Cape: cabeza arriba, cero drama y a seguir peleando. Porque aquà no se viene solo a competir, se viene a darlo y dejarlo TODO.
Sin filtros, sin excusas y con más ganas que nunca Pau también nos explica esas historias que 13 años de presencia en la Absa Cape Epic le han permitido vivir.
Vaume es muy feo lo que estás viendo cada dÃa. O sea, pues se pone ahà a tirar una hora para reventar el grupo y su compañero se ha quedado y es... No interfieres en la carrera. Me parece, estás muy bien, estás muy fuerte, pero si van solo cuatro parejas, te pones el noveno y eres un señor. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03Vamos al lÃo. A mà me pones sin micro, tenemos pocos recursos, eh.
SPEAKER_02Venga, dale. Ah, pero esto es reality ya o no. Yo propongo. Ahora tengo ganas de hablar contigo. De hecho, con Paunio ha hablado. Y antes de ayer fue uno de su equipo que me lo tiene que explicar because there are much explicit in your equipping. But almost. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The gente come on the power, tÃo.
SPEAKER_01Power is a good thing. No, you know that it's not the category of the chicken, that they have very good intention and it's appreciated day a day, no? But imagine that this looks the a year, the year with recursos, though.
SPEAKER_03We are petting much, the people are content. Sabes what we have? This is the podcast of the tochas. It's the podcast of the tochas.
SPEAKER_02But then okay. I'm not seeing. I mean, objective for island, tier. They're central in forest land.
SPEAKER_03DÃa a dÃa.
SPEAKER_02Now we're barkitos, tier. Have podcasts in for island or no? Have a podcast, but with recurs and recursos. Lo important is the contention, I've got it. Pau dice we have videos barating. Well, Pao, in seriously.
SPEAKER_01It's very heavy because we were not. I think we had podcast.
SPEAKER_03Viernes, etapa three of the cave finichitada, have passed many things, and we're going to put those at the parade.
SPEAKER_02But I'm going to talk about the Odyssey delivery. Claro que no, sÃ, sÃ. Pobre Rosa, tÃo. Sin Mayot. No sé si todavÃa lleva el Mayotte o no, but they're sent out, pasa. Y después estoy las imágenes, pero no las pasa. Bueno, y lo fuerte es que...
SPEAKER_01Es que fue, tÃo, como aparte fue un efecto dominó because the bot atacó the ultimate, they got two three parejas, hostia, as a minimum podium talk. And the golf me later on a WhatsApp and I said that it has. At the time there was two minutes. But I think we have two minutes, nothing, yeah, but at the moment I said that the rosa has and that's the eyes and they had the rod. And the kids went and I said that really it was not ultra heavy, but they had the protocol of the helicopter. And so what we've done was that it had a heavy, they got the maillot and they got a torniquet, and I think the one is that it has experienced much experience that is the button of the SOS and the maillot, they got away, and then we were in a motor, a little bit of the helicopter.
SPEAKER_02I didn't get this.
SPEAKER_01And the helicopter.
SPEAKER_02I sent it.
SPEAKER_01And the helicopter they were at the hospital at campagne. And we listened to the hospital. And now we have an hour that they have to discart. Well, most of the operation has been here, they have to go back because they discard that there were roots and things. In the world again they did the bigger. No, it is when I came to the doctor, the doctor said, This child is your team, you can explain three things to it. I said, one important thing because I think I had three times at the hospital and in Italy, which had much time in the European Union, I said the doctor, this child has a very rare and is the suffering is very good. I think it's not the dollar, because it is doing a lot that normally the people don't ask and they are ready. I think it was the same. And I was here here in the hospital at campaign and I was doing bromas and the same that we've been in the video, the one. In terms of the boat called and at the time was triturated, Pau, who has rotating the cost, no one. Celia said, but after he had the boat held the reflection, it's a little bit sexist, but the teachers are super quejicas, the tears have made hostias like panes and aguantan. The year we saw with Janina that romped a dead, and a cost of the cape, and when they were radiography, it's a lot of cape.
SPEAKER_03This is the maestro salfa and a commentary sexist in heteropatriarchal, the people have a dolor much more than the homes.
SPEAKER_01And then that Rosa when she lives, intent to pedale and it's right, it intent levant and it was and a cara but total funeral. Well, I think we're intent, a year vote is talking, and alright, we have vote, sales, because we know that's and we are in the 44 and if you're and sit down, has been Murky, the filmmaker who we have on the motor, meaning unasters and me has said, Oh, I'm saying that it's okay and I think that we have been in the group of cabinet after the ultimate and one, there are three, they have been with the canyon at 40 seconds, it's very problems of frenos and I think that have been away and the ultimate habitual have been three minutes more when they were media carrier.
SPEAKER_02Evidently, el que habÃa guardado al principio al final had much difference.
SPEAKER_01Okay, Pepiko La Uzi va a hacer algo, y is Baum y un equipo que se ha retirado el compañero han salido, el campeón sudafricano, y se ha puesto a tirar de los Toyota y estaba pactado, y otro equipo Toyota también con un chico. Iban allÃ.
SPEAKER_02Pero no se puede hacer nada.
SPEAKER_01SÃ, pero si la pareja está fuera de carrera, es como habrá salido. Bueno, al final los han secado y a partir de ahà sà que es verdad que has sido una carrera.
SPEAKER_02A los cajones de la cake no te dejan entrar sin tu pareja. SÃ, sÃ, sÃ, pero en la curva ya se ha salido.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, pero si en el primer control ya pasas a más de dos minutos de tu participation. Bueno, eso.
SPEAKER_03Aquà it has been a nivel internal, a nice organization, you can do this. And the equipped of the tape three years, we have. And when one is uh Leopardo, who sells the cajon Cleopardo, but Leopardo is a compañero. For the point, when we're watching this, which has been done in any other moment, we're talking that it should specifically in the regiment from a stop and go, operation in a penalty, because at the time it would generate situations of carrier like this.
SPEAKER_02I think the podcast de hoy seem to live, instead of KPB since filtros, Maletines en la K.
SPEAKER_03Maletines en la K.
SPEAKER_02Maletines. But it happens.
SPEAKER_01No, but después ha pasado que encima no es solo. No, pero también. Y bueno, pero lo que ha pasado después is that if no viene tu pareja.
SPEAKER_02Ratoncito y yo no.
SPEAKER_01Se ha quedado en mitad y encima se ha comprado una parcela y ha cortado el grupo. It's more than tires, que quieres ayudar a más 10, me parece perfect, but the carrier is very feeling because solo losses, Ivan, one, the Toyota and six corredores.
SPEAKER_02When they are opting at Podium and Space Alice.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this would be Hans is correct and a chicken, and the other day when they passed what passed, we decided to Hans that already have the market, the same bici, including that Hans is companied, but after we decided that it are parejas different. But it's what they're doing today. For me, it's what they're doing today. I mean, it's more good, it's more good, but if there are only three, you put the noveno and a señor, because all the land are saying that what happens, what does that mean? It's like two minutes or no? No, no, no, no, no, because they speculate and they go. Yeah, but we're parents.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, one debate that's interesting. For one part, juggling with the reglament does go to jug, there's another part that is the conduct deportive that if you are opting and my company is away, why you have to do this? And the other is the normative that we can apply the organization in how we're going to attack these activities.
SPEAKER_01I think one of the people when there are discussions for parejas, and it's me parece very good the exhibition, but you are correct for parejas, no? And I think, and if George and it has much time, what does it work at? This was an air in Transpiration, two hermans, and one, and his man. Okay, you from your man, if you're your man and has been because he has been and has controlled, at you, two minutes at the time, vas with your parents, it's a Kepic, two days, then for pareja, and I for example I'm gonna see the parents who are super compeneted, you know? And I for example, hostia, not much, but I've seen I'm gonna hear it with the climatizer that they have super good, they have to learn very well in the carrier and at the final have seconds because they were, but it's mirroring all the time, they got much espace, they're equipment. They're good, though, and the pictures.
SPEAKER_02And equipped it more in puntos. So you tire arrived, you can't get it. Yo I've got two cyclists of cara. Claro, because they have perfect, no loan, and you can volunteer.
SPEAKER_01In theory no longer atrás.
SPEAKER_03For example, the company of Antonio Ortiz hoy the plato, have passed three kilometers in the habitual, and what has been salad is I tire at this, voyage and what I hear. No, I tire at the time, I think, bueno, pues mira, se me ha acabado aquà la cake. Lo sé, lo sé, lo sé.
SPEAKER_02No, pero lo que es cierto is that.
SPEAKER_01Okay. The first has been a little bit of Greaton. This has been the zone that I was, and for me, the more zone of the KPI for me is Oak Valley. But Oak Valley is very guapo. Before the subject of this.
SPEAKER_02Ah, the larger that we have, it's very good. This is the ultimate of the año.
SPEAKER_01And the mÃtic passe. The bajada era the same. It's already contrary. They happened to go to Lorensdorf, eso se hizo de su vida. Y el paso mÃtico, that you don't have.
SPEAKER_02The passo mÃtico. There was a bicharraco sudafrican with a gabardina, taking us a bici. There's a track here that you don't see a montage sagra, it's not a momento.
SPEAKER_01No, this is a passive of all the time that for now has ganado and it was like a passage when there has been because there's a carretera that has much S para cruzar. Claro, y es como pedregal y tal. But we have to bajar por seguridad.
SPEAKER_02No, because it's not a little bit. No by 50 metros tú, corriendo como mongolos. El de la gabardina. Y seguro que el Bart ha ido hasta el letrero. Andas, y el cubano que no entendÃa nada, que se querÃa subir la bici, y digo, ¿estás loco? Esto es una montaña sagrada, ¿sabes no? Ahà ha habido dos parejas o tres que nos han metido dos minutos. Bajan corriendo, loco. Este y yo. Yo he perdido hasta los está con el Sfire, ¿sabes? Digo, madre mÃa, chellin es guapo, ¿sabes? Las Sfire nuevas. Pero eso es una mierda. Es mejor que ya por asfalto, tÃo.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, because no. No, no, es que. Somos Killers okay. No, Ivon, es que for acceder de ese valle aquÃ, the only way for where it would be is for all right. El paso is ese. El paso is ese.
SPEAKER_02Albert Castellá, tÃo, Salomon aquà abajo, tÃo. No censura, eh. No censura. Somos Salomon, además, los dos. Tú has visto las imágenes of when the group, tÃo.
SPEAKER_01Somos Salomon, pero mira cómo están después de siete daños de correr y cambiar.
SPEAKER_02A mà no me gusta.
SPEAKER_03Inserciones publicitarias aparte, the verdict is that when I passed the pros for all, a peloton, passing. Bueno, tú te has rajado por aquÃ, no puedo salvar.
SPEAKER_02No, yo it's the rueda. It's a dolor, you know, I've heard that, no. It's been a spectacular. It's like it's like a mini cape in an etapa. Inclusive hoy the temperature, the air, the sol. Lloving, frÃo. Nada más salir, tÃo. Kilometer cinco, pam, se pone a llover.
SPEAKER_01But he parabla, llovÃa y paraba. It's very heavy because it's lobbying much more to the chicken, to the chicken, but to the chicken.
SPEAKER_02But for example, the grip of hoy, the ternet was exagerated.
SPEAKER_01But it was like in the zone of valley a little bit that was on the e-bike in English that it was a little bit sticky, it was pegajoso.
SPEAKER_02There's pegajos, there's a vinegar, I think it's a ball and there were zones of barrock arcillos of this.
SPEAKER_03No, but we've got a ball, no?
SPEAKER_02It has been an episode. There have been 135 kilometers, eh? 132 kilometers, yeah.
SPEAKER_01134 and 2000.
SPEAKER_02Not with Ernesto had the tactic of the final and when we had 50 or 40, they went to the apron. Mañana is correct, 80, it's accojoned. It's also and you sort of think in Spanish there's much gente that's fugaste, no nivel igual, no? You know, no, lo vas a la cape, it's not a carried mountain bike and toca. No carreras de España that are marathons, no marathon, no son of España. Some carreruchas? But this is otro tema, this is a melon que no abriremos, ¿no? Yo lo he abierto. But for example, tú compras una carrera in España, las más importantes de España, ¿cuánto duran las carreras? Dos horas y media, tres. Uh, hay unos cincuenta. O no. No, ¿cuánto duran? Es una pregunta objetiva. SÃ, no, no, no. Pero aquÃ, bueno, es que hay mucha problemas. Ayer 140, hoy 135. Coño, entonces hoy sà hay una gestión de carrera. Entonces ha sido brutal. Entonces, al final, se hace muchas... Mira, nosotros Ãbamos con Bar, Virgen, Grand Master, a falta de 40 kilómetros los tenÃamos a un minuto o medio minuto. Y yo le decÃa Ernesto, tú sigas aquà que somos la zanoria, pero guapa. Pues están emocionados. Los vamos a guardar, pero ahà con el punto, no con ellos. Torturando un poco. Y a la última subida hemos enviado a los primeros Grandmasters que eran unos noruegos. Y he dicho, coño, si con los vatios que llevamos y la differencia general estos aquÃ. O sea, objetivamente, te lo digo con humildad, pero es que al final del batio manda, yo voy con vatios. Y he dicho Ernesto, vamos a tope. Ya, quedaban 30 igual, 20. No, no, igual 15-20 quedan, eh. A meta de la subida. Nos hemos tirado a fondo and the velocity that we live, we have minimum 4 minutes. Seguro. 5 minutes. 6, creo. 6, no? 5 and 5.
SPEAKER_016 minutes and 15 kilometers. Yeah, but when you have ruined the golf, they got two minutes, tell you this in other carriers not.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02No, because the hostia, the hostia that's at the 30 hours, the caper is the only carrier that has 8 apps. But more than this is that are large. Copas del mundo, what during the marathon? The marathon, digo, the cross country. Here and yeah, no?
SPEAKER_01No, you pagarÃa. Por hora y media. Se está ganando ya ahora con hora 15. Hora 15, no sé. Si parece ya Ciclocross casi.
SPEAKER_02Yo me acuerdo Campeonatos de España con 2.28 ya.
SPEAKER_01No, yo me acuerdo cuando estaba ahà de mecánico en la Copa del Mundo que en Canadá en Monsantan gana Roland Green con 220 y no habÃa habituallamientos. Pero bueno, eso es muy a los cool. Pero sà que es verdad que la cave aún siendo más corta porque es mucho más corta than what it was antes, because antes era una animalada, pero sigue siendo muy exigente. La prueba lo ve in los pros ya habÃa muchos DNFs, mucha gente that has salted, the rhythm delante ya is más lento y ves que la gente va a very cansada, no? The gentleman just...
SPEAKER_02Pero el rodillo me lo dijo Ernesto. At the principal le dijo, hay que calentar. Me dice, no. 20 minutos de calentamiento por 8, suma. Si la carrera ya son 30 horas para la año.
SPEAKER_01No, pero es que al final ya al sexto daño ya no se sale tan rápido. Hoy por ejemplo esa pista, ¿no? Que se salÃa ya calientas ahÃ. It's como mañana te lo compro porque al kilómetro tres ya hay una subida aquà de 500 positivos, ¿no? Y como a lo mejor no calientes, te la comes doblada en la primera subida, pero. Ah, que no con tus corredores. Desayunan. Desayunan 4 y media. Se levantan a las 4 y 25. SÃ.
SPEAKER_02Y después se vuelven a acostar o ya saltarines?
SPEAKER_01No, saltarines, no, una cosa intermedia.
SPEAKER_02Andas con una de que have 25 kilometers of pista, desayuno lo mismo or more for coming, but they're not duro to get a lot of.
SPEAKER_01No, else calculated more or the carbohydrates that they can be in all the carrier. So they reparted. Siempre is the same. No, es que el desayuno is muy de la KIP Pikachu. But before they are passing the years, what much cuesta is desayun. In camera is already a casa and all the day coming, for the time picoteando and for the noche cenan and talk, because I think that it's when the life has much demand, no, but for the mañana is the perezoso and it's cute, no? And in principle, or different in a copa del mundo, you can get a platoon of arroz, ¿sabes? Aquà is con Nutella and the other.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. What is it? Penalties guapos. Ah, mira document, when they interest, me avisa. And if no nos tiene puteados.
SPEAKER_03No, creo que es media hora, eh. El primer warning, cinco. The second, three.
SPEAKER_01No, no, pero es una falta de respeto para la organización. Mira, mira cómo va, Ernesto. Mira cómo va. Con el culote.
SPEAKER_02No me deja ni ir con pantalón asÃ. Uf, a mà esto no me gusta nada. Y cuando subà al podium ayer, el tercero no estaba. Y a Bart le dije, venÃa en plan con el tapioca también. Y le dije, no cyclists, no pictures.
SPEAKER_01Claro, tÃo. No, yo decidieron mucho de ti, eh. No, porque en esta... Ah, bueno, no, perdona. No, porque a vosotros pasa una cosa. Eso pasa en los pros. Si hay dos podiums, o sea que el que ha habido el de la mañana y el de la tarde. El de la mañana es el oficial y el de la tarde es más informal. Entonces sà que es... Pero vosotros... No, no, yo te entiendo. Si el podium es de tres... Bueno, aparte, después hay una cosa.
SPEAKER_02Es el podio oficial, hay que vestir el ciclista, que es somos.
SPEAKER_01No, reglamentos, no, no, no. Es que pasa otra cosa. Reglamento UCI está prohibido subir si no es con ropa de ciclismo. Gorra como puedes llevar. No, gorra sÃ. Campeonato de España y Mundiales no. Lo que no se puede en teorÃa son gafas, gorras sÃ. Yo creo que esa norma la cambiaron cuando salió Red Bull.
SPEAKER_0050 minutos.
SPEAKER_02Una hora. Una hora y el cuarto, creo. Pero yo lo que no he entendido hoy es como les llevamos hora y media y iban delante de nuestro, tÃo. Yo fitaba Dios la puta. Y le he dicho a Ernesto, eso tiene que poner en valor la cape no estamos haciendo. Porque la cape es jodida, tÃo. Y los que iban segundos en la general, es cayó la guapa.
SPEAKER_03Claro, ¿qué le tienes que contar a él? ¿A quién?
SPEAKER_02Claro, claro, mÃralo. O a mà el año pasado. Habéis ganado, habéis ganado una polla, habéis ganado.
SPEAKER_01También te digo al revés, eh. Hans Becking sin decir nada. Sex two at two minutes of Martin and the Boat that are quintess. Sexto, eh? Sexto. Nobody conoces sure, nobody says who is it, and it's not queue to the leaders. Hans sabe learned. And when they describe, they're a bit, but you know that Williams is the only equipping who has falls, too. And he went back and said, Hostia, Paul, if we have the 10, flipper, because it was a couple of a year and gestionar things. No, no, sex, thousand. But the cape epic.
SPEAKER_02I can asegurate.
SPEAKER_01Ernesto ya estamos asegurando the first day we were aseguring. Ernesto has heard the cape. Empez this. No, no, I've got to do it. The Cape Mañana is another Cape completely different that's Stellenboss, which is a carrier much, not individual, but pareja to pareja. Okay, no one have groups on Vipers of Stellenbos, which is much more. Maybe 72 and 2000 yet. It's more durable mañana. And the ultimate is dual. It's 50 and 2000, 2000, 2200.
SPEAKER_02We are having a intelligent and we are a little bit like Hans. We are avoiding the group of cajonators of the 40 I LT Opens after it's intended to avoid the maximum if the terreno favore. Not a revent in a single track and then we sell single track for me, for example, arrives a story. Ah, para tu kito también no me en vino, ¿no?
SPEAKER_01Si yo las que nos dieron las regalamos y aparte podrÃa hacer publicidad porque tenemos una marca de vino que es Sponsor. Bueno, de hecho es Sponsor.
SPEAKER_00Ah, sÃ. Hombre, coño, el primero que lo conocà en el mundo del sitio fui yo.