Episode #5 - Marvel vs. DC

On this week's episode we discuss the new Spider Man trailer, our expectations for the film and we debate Marvel vs DC and who is better.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hi Spidey. I wonder what we're talking about today. Shall we?

SPEAKER_04 0:10

Welcome to the Shot On Film Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Yeah, your your camera's there if you want to try and do it.

unknown 0:22

Oh, are you really?

SPEAKER_03 0:23

No, I'm kidding. No, it doesn't. What if I just took an eye out? Let's not do that.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

All right. Who could it be? The special guest is Noah. It's Bella. Extra long intro today. All right. How was that? It's it's good every time, in my opinion, but you know, different strokes. Alright, so this week's episode after our Oscar discussion is nice. This week's episode, we're talking about superheroes and the superhero films, more importantly, in what's the word I'm looking for? In correlation with the Spider-Man trailer that just recently dropped. Um as of the day of recording this, it's the day it dropped, but you guys for another week, but that's okay. Uh so I guess we'll just start right off the bat with uh what are your thoughts on the new Spider-Man trailer?

SPEAKER_03 1:29

I'm so happy it's finally out.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

I was I feel like here's my thing. Is there a lot to go off of? Kind of.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Also, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Also, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Um, I am really curious about the MJ storyline. Cause she ought no one remembers him.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Except possibly Bruce Banner.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

My assumption is, based off of the trailer, that either Bruce Banner is gonna be in one cameo scene where he just talks to him and we basically saw the whole scene in that trailer, or he's gonna be like the guy helping him figure it out and set the whole thing straight and fix everything. I don't know which way they're gonna go with that.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Well, the way that the comics went, so I've been told. Yeah. And so I've been talked to. Um is that, and the other thing, I don't know how how do you keep to one comic? You don't know all over the place. Right. So every movie is like, because there's so many different types of comics, how do you pick? This came from one of them. Um that when spoilers, you should have watched this movie already.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

What, No Way Home?

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Yes. When everyone forgot who Peter Parker was, that Bruce Banner was the Hulk.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

And so The Hulk forgot Spider-Man, not Bruce Banner, that's the loophole.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Well, it doesn't appear like Bruce Banner knows who he is from the trailer.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

Because he's like, Do I know you?

SPEAKER_03 3:03

But it's like, does he get a jogged memory?

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Right. I'm like, well, I don't know. I don't actually know anything about the comics on this, but my main point of worry, honestly, is I just don't want them to just snap their fingers and somehow find a magic way to reverse everyone forgetting about him because it feels like you're now making the ending of No Way Home irrelevant, which they love to do in superhero films, basically. Just let's just complete like they did that in Star Wars too, in the in the matter. You know, and we just discussed.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

What if we just scared you for a little bit, but we would never.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Right. So I'm like, I want them to like if MJ is gonna be with him at the end of the movie or whatever, I want it to be like a brand new story.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

A brand new story for her.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Exactly. Exactly. I hope it's that and not, oh, I remember you now, aww. You know. And what did he say?

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Um that like she's still wearing her necklace that uh Peter gave her on the Italy trip in the trailer.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

I saw that. I noticed that. So it's like why are you wearing that?

SPEAKER_03 4:13

Not just not why are you wearing that, but like how do you remember getting that? And I'm wondering if it's gonna be like a I've just had it for so long, I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

I don't remember where I got it from. Yeah, it totally could be.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Right. But it's also like I I know where everything is from in my closet, in my jewelry, in my like in in my house. I know where things are from. And I know that I can't be the only one that's like that. But I'm not you're not.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Especially And MJ just seems like someone that would be like that.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Yeah, she feels like someone that would like know where her things are from. Like she, I was gonna say she's a historian at heart, and I was like, um, I don't know if I'd say that, but I um she she knows her shit.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

And she's not one to lie.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

No, she's not. So I'm interested. I hated the last silly line, the friendly neighborhood thing. I thought that was so cheap. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

I thought it was so cute. I thought it was so cute.

SPEAKER_04 5:11

I was so interested, and I hate her fucking boyfriend already. I don't even know if that's a boyfriend or just some fucking dude that hit on her.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

She looks uncomfortable in that scene.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

She's always uncomfortable. She's she's awkward. Her trait is being a little awkward almost at all times.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Alright, so anything else you want to add on the spider-based?

SPEAKER_03 5:29

I love the banter already. Yes, I love the and I love the classic, like, not to say like no cussing, because they've they've done it here and there. Right. But like the mother, yeah, so good.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

That was funny.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

I love the because he he would be I mean, John Berthow's great clean-ish.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

We love him.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

You know what I mean? As Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

He's starting to turn into the Toby Maguire Spider-Man from this trailer a bit.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Toby Maguire, I feel was always a little too old to play Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

That's true, but I mean it's turning into that.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

In his adult life, so then I I when I think of Spider-Man, I think of the teenager.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Sure, 100%. Which is why Andrew Garfield was the best Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

I'm I'm not arguing.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

But he wasn't the best Peter Parker. He was way too hot to be Peter Parker. I'm just saying. Anyways.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Tom is the best overall.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yes, I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

And you can't fight with Stan Lee on that.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

So well, that no one to fight with now. RIP.

unknown 6:30

Got it.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Um, so anything else you want to add? Because uh I mean I mainly just let's wait and see. I will go watch that one. Um, I don't watch superhero movies all that frequently.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

I'm super excited. Spider-Man is my favorite superhero of all time. So I'm so, so excited for this movie. I remember when um No Way Home came out, I went to go see it by myself because I was on a family vacation, and um uh I looked for the closest movie theater, and there was only one seat left. And I said, I'm leaving all of you and buying this ticket. I mean And it was phenomenal. I was like, I love watching movies by myself. This is for the fans. It's great. And I'm okay with that every once in a while. Every uh not the whole movie, don't make the whole movie for the fans.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Fan service for an entire movie. Don't do that. No way home was borderline that.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

I don't think it was the entire movie.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

It was borderline that.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

I don't think it was the enemy.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

It wasn't quite that, but it was almost that.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

I think that there was enough.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

That movie's not very rewatchable, but it's amazing the first time you watch it. I can re-watch it. Yeah. But it loses a lot of its laughter. I mean, like, there's some movies that I'll rewatch 1500 times and love it every time. And there's some movies that I'm like, hmm, I wish I could see that again for the first time because now I know everything that happens. You know?

SPEAKER_03 7:49

Definitely for the fans, but I don't feel like the entire movie. It wasn't like but there's just like moments where I was like, that was real of y'all for that.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

The best part of that movie was.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

Thank you for giving me that. I'm so happy to have this.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Yeah.

unknown 8:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

No, it was great. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

I'm happy that also this is canon.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Yes. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. Because if they start twisting things in the new one and like changing, it's like, well, now you're just like, why?

SPEAKER_03 8:17

Peter forgetting everything.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Because dimensions and we have multiverses, so you can just undo anything.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

It is a boring pop out.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

To be like, but in this universe. But at the same time, it's kind of like a well, it's a way to just continue to well, not not just that. I I think that it's like a comforting thought. And that's like that's in like my own life. To be like, it's a comforting thought to be like, maybe not in this universe, but in a different universe, it goes this way. Yeah. And maybe one day I'll have access to a different universe.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Maybe. I wonder what other versions of me exist out there. Shorter. They're living their best life. Yeah, I'm sure there's a shorter version of you out there too, if if that's even possible.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Half of me? I would take half of me.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Yeah, a little halfling. Uh it's a hobbit, that's what I meant to say. Oh. It's a nickname for hobbits, and all of these is halflings. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

Half of what?

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Half a human. They're three feet tall.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Oh, then what's the other half?

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Another hobbit.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

I'm so dumb.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Two hobbits equals the height of one.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

I was thinking of like a centaur situation.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

No. Where I'm like, they're half no, they're just half height of a normal human. Sorry. That's all. It's a derogatory term about uh hobbits in the Northern Rings. Anyways, um, so what is your favorite superhero film of all time? The Side Tongue. What is it? That people want to know. Well, which one? You got a few to choose from.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

I do have a lot to choose from. Um I don't know that if I I'd say that like I come back to the first amazing Spider-Man a lot. That's a good one. It's really solid. Really good one. Uh uh also like I I know that they dated and they had their time. Um, but like the the chemistry. Yeah, great chemistry. The chemistry between Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield is especially in that movie. It's I mean in the second one too. It's so genuine, it's so innocent, and it is heartbreaking in the end.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Because that chemistry existed and it was so heartbreaking. Like that had to work for the other scene to work in No Way Home, you know? So good. That was my favorite part of that movie, No Way Home, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

MJ being saved.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

I'm I'm also really happy that they chose for Andrew to be the one to save her, to like rewrite that mistake.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Exactly. That's and it was it was like they shot for shot.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

Yeah, and they also like all of these movies, and this is one of those things where I'm like, I don't understand how like copyright works. And there's so many different comic books, and they're all from different illustrators and writers and creatives, authors.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

I don't I am not well versed. And also then we have Miles Morales that I'm like, that is a whole another spider-verse, literally.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

Um, how do you how do you do that legally?

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Well, they all own the rights for the most part to all of it. It's Marvel. Now there's film rights, and then there's TV rights, and then there's there's also there's all sorts of rights to all sorts of different things.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

I could have been a lawyer, I did not choose to be. But that is one of those things where like maybe if I was a lawyer, I would know more.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

You would do very well at that, I think.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

My mom thought so too.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

I still think you considered that until just now, but you would do very well at that.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

I, yeah, that was gonna be if I wasn't an actor, I was gonna be a lawyer. Like my mom was prepared for law school. Yeah, and then I switched up on her. You said, Arts, baby. I was like, I think I was like nine or twelve, somewhere between that, where I was like, actually, I wouldn't I mean my first job that I wanted to do. Yeah, and I was like, it's not just because I don't have to read, but that much reading does a lot.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Like it's so much, but you would do well in court, I think.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

I think I would do well in court. I think that I I can make a convincing case. Um, but I also have the problem of being like, what's the truth?

unknown 12:23

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Of like what really happened. Always do that.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

They have to be to fit the client.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

That's where I'm like, God, I don't know if I could sleep at night to be like my client was in the wrong and I knew that. But I was able to convince a jury.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

You have to convince twice otherwise that's not the case.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

And this will never be tried again.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

And if you do that successfully, you get lots and lots of money from a lot of terrible people. Yeah. Or you could be like a public defendant or like prosecuting attorney.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Something.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

You would do go out as a prosecutor as well, actually. Something. Yeah. Because then we that way you're not defending anybody. You're attacking them.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Come back to me later.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Yeah, you're gonna go to law school at 38?

SPEAKER_03 13:07

Didn't Kim Kardashian do that?

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Well, it's Kim Kardashian.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

Yeah. I just passed the bar, actually, casually. I don't even need to study. I was like, God, no, I didn't want to read because I'm dyslexic, but and it just takes like I can read. It just takes like three times as long.

SPEAKER_05 13:22

Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:23

So then when something is already lengthy, and then I know it's gonna take me longer.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Yeah, because legal documents are not lengthy at all.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

I just want to do what's right.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

I know. All right, you have a very strong sense of morality, which we love that about you. Anyways, okay, my favorite superhero movie. I mean, this is so easy. Uh, it's the Dark Knight, for sure. No doubt about it.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

You know what? I'm surprised I didn't actually see that coming. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

It's the Dark Knight, followed by The Dark Knight Rises and Batman Begins. I don't know which one of those is second and third, but those that's the top.

SPEAKER_03 13:57

Can you give me your best Batman impression?

unknown 13:59

No.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Um I don't bring my Batman mask. I can't be in character without the mask.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Just cover your eyes and cover your eyes in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Maybe. Maybe one day. We'll see. Um The Dark Knight is so good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

It's my best contribu contribution.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

I also do like the Robert Pattinson Batman, by the way. That one was fun.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

Who is also gonna have a crazy next next one?

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Dude is about to have the craziest next year.

SPEAKER_03 14:26

I didn't even realize that he was in three movies with Zendaya together. I know. I was like, I'm so focused on my girl being taking over the entirety of 2026 that I was like, oh, Robert Pattinson is also in the world.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Taking over the entirety of 2026. Like, yup.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Yeah. They're gonna be busy, girls. They are busy.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

I think that Is it the dramas at the Yes, the dramas they're in together.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

And I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

They're in all three of those movies together, technically. I don't think they're gonna be in any scenes in Odyssey together, though. But they're in He's the antagonist and she plays the goddess of Thina, so like I don't think that she's gonna appear to Matt Damon's character, probably.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

You never know. Maybe they're like, you know what else you want to do?

SPEAKER_01 15:06

They don't they don't I mean maybe else you want set.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

And then yes um Knuckles was modius of part three. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

And they will most likely have scenes together. He's the protagonist or antagonist in that movie. I did not recognize him when I watched that Dune trailer at all. I forgot he was in the movie until at the end it showed the Catalyst, and I went, wait, Robert Patton's. Why was he?

SPEAKER_03 15:30

Who got me for that last time? Austin Butler.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

That I was like, no fucking way.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

There's Dune again. Yeah. Which by the way, they shot Dune part three on IMAX 15 per film, not digital. We love that. We love that. It's the best film. So did Sinners.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Don't be knocking on IMAX films. I'm not, it's just the way you said it.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

We love it. It does look quite pretty, but Greg Frazier didn't show. Fuck Trump. By the way, what?

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Because that was the impression. No, I didn't know that's what you were doing. That's what it sounded like when you said that. That's why I was like, something good.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

I wasn't even trying to do that, but fair enough. Uh I was gonna say also, we have the battle of the three greatest composers in Hollywood this year.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

Because You're like, actually, next year's Oscars is where I'm gonna be terrified for this category.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

That is very true. Because Ludwig Gorensen is doing the Odyssey, John Williams is doing his name so easily. I've said it a few times. John Williams is doing Disclosure Day, Spielberg's new movie, and Hans Dimmer's doing Doom Part Three. Like, we got all the goats doing scores. Disclosure Day, by the way. Have you seen the trailers for that? The new Spielberg movie? Looks really good. Looks really good. Looks like a classic Spiel. It looks like just like E.T.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Do you wanna do you wanna make a year prediction right now?

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Which one of those ends up winning? Yeah. It's not gonna be disclosure day, probably. For for score, it'll be probably Odyssey, I had to guess.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Because Dune is on a streak.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Dune is a part three. It's gonna be relatively I'm sh no offense to Hans Zimmer. There's gonna be similar themes in there because you're having to follow the same motifs. However, Hans, you have done a trilogy in the past, Pie to the Caribbean and The Dark Knight. The third Pie to the Caribbean score is the best of the three. It is so good.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

I remember I had a friend in high school that like when we were like going to like theater festivals, that like when she needed to like lock the fuck in, would play the soundtrack like on the way to the like on the bus, on the way. Yes, all the way to the fucking college.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

But like the third. And would just be like in their monologue. The Will Turner and Elizabeth the Elizabeth and Will theme when they get married on the book.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Everything is so good.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

It's so good.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Photo shoot idea.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

What's that?

SPEAKER_03 17:55

It was part of the character.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Fun. Alright. Um, back to superhero movies. Yeah. Dark Knight. I don't really need to say anything. It's a phenomenal movie. Um of the greatest performances ever put together.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

We're losing people.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

I know. Do you know what else? Here's the thing. We're getting older. So we're Shut the fuck up. So we're more aware of these people that continue dying. Like when we were younger, we were like, I don't know who this is when you watch the Immemorium at the Oscars. But now we're like, we're knowing these people for years.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

But yeah, you've like.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

We've grown up with these people, and now it's like before you were like, I don't know who that is, or like, oh, I've seen like one thing with them, and it's not as like heartwarming and in your like Rob Reiner, you know. Like, oh my gosh. Anyways, um it's hard to get older. And we're relatively quite young, actually. No, not relatively. We are quite young in the grand scheme of things.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Catherine and I hurt. That one hurt. That was so unexpected for me.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

And I remember swatched home alone like three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

I remember like I was talking with my brother, and we were both just like, Catherine?

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Yeah, fuck it. I know.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

I know. Anyways. My grandma passed away later. Life is hard a little bit later.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Because the reason we were talking about Catherine O'Hara is because we're like, God, you just never know. Yeah. And she died so young, and we're like, that was crazy. And then because we were talking, like, my grandma did this thing, um, and we were just like, I don't know, like it feels like she's prepping. We were like, I don't want to say that, I don't wanna, I don't want to assume. Yeah.

unknown 19:37

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

And we're like, I really thought I had 10 more years.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

No, I get that. That's fair. You never have enough time, even if you had those 10 more years.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

And I've had so much time and I'm so grateful. Most I feel like, yeah, most people, like even like my youngest cousin, like he lost her at 14.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Right.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

And I feel like most people like lose their grandparent around like nine.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

My first grandparent died, uh, it was 14.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Like between those ages is like the average of when people lose their grandparents. And I'm like, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Right, because people are usually in their 30s or 40s when they start to lose their parents, you know. So like depending on what? What? I'm just saying, my mom's mom died when she was 39. My grandma, I was 14.

unknown 20:20

Oh, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

People start to lose their parents when they get in their later 30s and 40s and 50s.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

I mean, that's just don't ask me why I forgot. I was like, That's how life works. My grandmother was also a parent.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Fuck.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

She Fuck. Well, uh, my mom is uh 58. So she's had she's had a lot of time.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

That's pretty solid.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

I mean I can't, I really I truly I can't complain. She did really she I've had a lot of time with her. That's really cool. It's a blessing.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Blessing. A blessing. Time is a blessing. Health is a blessing. We're talking about movies. Um uh we wanted to do a Marvel DC discussion.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Yeah. Um Do you have a favorite?

SPEAKER_01 21:02

I think that DC has higher highs and lower lows.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

Explain.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Some of their bad stuff is really bad. Not naming any names. Suicide Squad. Um Green Lantern. Um some of their good stuff is really good in the Dark Knight trilogy. Batman.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

Name another one that was good.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Um Man of Steel is good.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

Oh fuck, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Yeah. God damn it. That's a good one. No, it was. I like Snyder Cut. It was four hours, but that was a good time.

SPEAKER_03 21:45

I listen, I'm I I also I work at Disney, so I'm surrounded by Marvel. So Sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Marvel.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

I I have it I have my love and I have my issues. Marvel's most.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

For me, it like started. Up here with Iron Man.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

And like Thor's good, not as good as Iron Man, but like Captain America was solid. The first Avengers movie, it was it was just kind of on this upper trajectory. We had some great movies after great movies. And then Endgame hit and it was like peak.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

I remember like waking up the next day after. I remember the waking up the next day after Endgame.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Fucking distraught.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Like I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Yeah. Well, Infinity War did that to most of us too.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

Yeah. I was like, oh my God. No, they're not going back.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

But the problem is. That they came back. They all came back. This is what I was getting to with the beginning with the Spider-Man thing. It was like all of that. I was okay with the Infinity War is completely erased because they're all back. But yes, I know we'd lose Iron Man.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

I was okay with them all coming back for endgame. Like that was that was fine. Yeah, that I think that was that was that was great for me. Where I'm like, okay, it is when it gets to like multiverse of madness and like using the multiverse as like a way to like, oh, I could always bring somebody in. Or like, and one thing where I was like, this, I, and I can't tell if this was like on purpose to be like a giant slap in the face. Did you see Loki, the series?

SPEAKER_05 23:21

No.

SPEAKER_03 23:22

But like they had um it and it's like the quickest low, like throw not to say low-key, I can't I'm trying not to, anyways. It was like such like a fast, like throwaway scene of like he is like, do you need any explaining for the show? No. Okay. Um, so he is like, I was like time, space, continuum, office. Um, when they're in the TVA, and this guy opens up a drawer and it's all of these like different infinity stones. And it's just like, it's all of the times that like they have tried in different universes to like fix this, or like Doctor Strange is like, I've done every probability, this is the way that it has to be. Sure. And it's just be like, oh yeah, we use the line was we use them as paperweights because to them, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Lovely, right?

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Well, not I mean, like, not to Marvel, it doesn't matter, but like for these characters that work in like in the TVA, they're like, Yeah, yeah, time comes and goes, timelines end, they merge together, they split apart, and we fix it. We're just trying to keep it all in one.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Trying to keep the whole universe from nothing.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

That I was like, So much that we went through, and you use it as a paperweight something that shot me hard. Yeah, I don't like that. That I had to like pause and like take a second, and then I was like, okay. Um, I was like, fuck, dude. Damn. Anyways, I feel like my um my love with with Marvel is still high, clearly.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Um yeah, but that's that's not the MP.

SPEAKER_03 25:03

But you also I know, but you also have so many variants of your own, baby. Um, that I love all of them.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

It's true. But um Spider-Verse might be one of the best ones.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Miles is really good, it's really good storyline. It's really interesting. And see, that's like another one.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

Yes, that's a way of using the multiverse. And like, these are all extremely different uniforms.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

It's crazy different versions. Like instead of like, oh, we're just gonna go get that Iron Man and bring him over here.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

The exact same guy from a different timeline that might have experienced three different things.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

I'm just gonna, for a second, we obviously know Robert Downey Jr. is playing Doctor Doom in the new adventures movie.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

How did you feel for that reveal?

SPEAKER_01 25:44

I hate it.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

I didn't know how it was gonna go because I'm like, is he are they gonna alter his face?

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Are they gonna just revive Iron Man and be making the evil? Is that how that movie's gonna open?

SPEAKER_03 25:55

But I will say I I love this.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Yet again, I get back to why are we undoing our what or are we undoing what we've written? We've already done this, like he needs to be gone because that just reveals it just and then the arms out.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

It was epic. That was so good.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

But there's gonna be like lots of Doctor Dooms, maybe because it's a multiverse. I don't know. Maybe they're gonna go to a different universe where Iron Man was never Iron Man and he was a villain, and that's what it is, and it's Tony Stark became Doctor Doom. I don't know. That's not how the comics go. But you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Like he never becomes Iron Man, he becomes Doctor Doom and Yeah, like Civil War actually like is a completely different story, and it's like, you know what? Iron Man actually just turned into a fucking monster during Civil War, and it was just like I'm gonna murk you all.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

I wouldn't put it past him. I'm just cautious with them.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

That's fair. They've uh I feel like done it too much to me. Once Disney Plus became a streaming service, and they were like, we need to put out content after content after content. Because it used to be one movie a year.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

If that.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

If that. And it was like, well, it was like one of those things where like you'll get now.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

It's one movie a quarter.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

Not even that.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Weekly basis. Sometimes it is literally like every month there's a new Marvel movie coming out, and then the weeks in between there's a show.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

A new series, yeah, um, a new cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Your weekly Disney Plus new content. Yeah. And half of it's Marvel and then some of it's Star Wars. And I'm glad that's because the Star Wars content was very poor outside of Andor's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

It's it's a lot to put out.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

And uh But it's like at what quality?

unknown 27:32

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

And it's like uh I I haven't even seen all of it.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Like the CG.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

And that's like I I I hate to judge something that I haven't seen, but it's just like I'm still trying to catch up on things, and then you have other things in in different networks barded with content.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah. Really well-made content, and it makes it not as fun. So if you're gonna tell me that a show is only okay, I don't have time to only watch okay at this point. There's just so much out there that the amount of things on my list of things to watch that I have people telling me, oh my god, this is my favorite thing ever. It's so good, you're gonna love it. Like, there's dozens and dozens and dozens of things on my list to watch, of things in that category. So when am I gonna get around to watching something that I know is only gonna be mediocre, but it's like part of a universe that I enjoy. So, like, when am I ever gonna press play on that?

SPEAKER_03 28:22

And it's like, how much information from this series are they going to use in their like main timeline?

SPEAKER_01 28:31

And Marvel started doing that actually a long time ago. It was the Agents of Shield show.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

But I will say, I watched that show. Jumping. I liked the Last Guardians movie.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

Oh, did you? I haven't seen it. It I know you liked the uh Wasn't Forents P in there?

SPEAKER_03 28:47

I did cry. Oh, no, Thunderbolts?

SPEAKER_01 28:49

That's Thunderbolts, yeah. Thunderbolts! I haven't seen that either. See, I've just totally uh stopped doing the Marvel thing.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

Yeah, but those were the movies where we're like, I feel back. I felt back.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Those kind of feel more like a Guardians of the Galaxy kind of like new twist with a new team kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

But not it, it was giving I don't want to say it was giving, like, because Deadpool also came out. Deadpool and Wolverine came out. Um Deadpool's pretty good. Where you like need some sort of like grounding reality humor where like I need you to be slightly haha funny raunchy, um or like a little realistic with the humor sometimes in those Marvel movies. Um I feel like I'm contradicting myself, and you know what? I'm sure to a point that I am because like in like the context of like Spider-Man in the trailer when he's like mother and he covers his up, and I'm like, that's so one brand for you. Love it, love to see it. Um but I also like but it's even to be like you were so close to saying the F word, and I love that not to always be so like Captain America clean.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Sure, Deadpool's certainly not that, no, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

But like, um, and I'm not Chris Pratt's biggest fan, but a a Star Lord balance, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 30:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:07

Um there's if I had if we wrote scripts, maybe there'd be a better way to like write that out, but this is off the dome.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

We write scripts, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 30:17

Not this one.

unknown 30:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Maybe we should. We don't even you want to peek? I text Harrison, what are we gonna talk about today? And and then he's like, sounds good. That's what we do. There is no, there's not even bullet points sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

I have notes a lot of times, not today. This is a professional show.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Um what were we talking about? Right. We're talking about movies. Right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

So Marvel VC, I guess, is really what you were talking about. I kind of gave my take on it and you were kind of going with your I ramble. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Um, right. I'm a really good writer. I think that like, you know, my my um my thoughts, ideas, my opinions are very clear and concise when I write them. When I speak them off of nothing, girl, it's and I'm not medicated. Um neither am I.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Probably should be. Here we are.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Woo! One day. No, I won't.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

No, we won't. Probably not. Um self-medicate.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

All of that to say all of the mess to say is that I think that even Marvel's lows are higher than DC's lows.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

And that is why I think that Marvel is better than DC.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

I mean, that's fair.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

I've never given it's not my only reason, but it's it's one of my defining reasons.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

I don't think I don't know. The last few years has really brought the average score down for Marvel.

SPEAKER_03 32:00

But I feel like they're up, and they're they're up in how many fucking years was Superman.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Yeah, Superman has had some interesting renditions for sure.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

Name and how many years before?

SPEAKER_01 32:16

I mean, the iconic John Williams score from the classic Superman is pretty great. And then there was that Superman Returns, was like 2005, I think. That one was interesting.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

21 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

And then you had Man of Steel in 2013. I've I would not give, in my opinion, there's not a single Marvel movie that I'd give like an A plus to. But there's plenty of A's and B's and C's in there. There's a a couple of DC A pluses, but there's also a couple of Fs, and there's not a lot of Marvel F's.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Not as many.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Not as many. Actually.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

C minus. Don't shut. Don't don't talk about the C minuses. No, we don't need to talk about C minus.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

I was just saying. But A's and B's, girl. Marvel's actually put out quite a few Fs since Endgame, in my opinion. If we just if they had if we were to have this conversation in 2019, no doubt about it, Marvel would win.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

But they have put out some.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

Do you think maybe they were compensating for COVID?

SPEAKER_01 33:16

I think that they were like everybody's everyone's home. We have to put content out. No, go go, go.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't matter if it's good. We gotta keep everybody home. Because I think that, like, I think that WandaVision and Loki were good.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Yeah. But then they just kept going with the show thing. And like, I and I still haven't understand that.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

I've seen so many of them, and I feel bad that I haven't seen any of them, and I'm like pre-judging them before I'm I'm listening to other people's opinions, but that I when you have so much to watch, and other people have seen this thing that, like, oh, you're like, yes, I love Marvel. I'm gonna watch this thing, and they're like, I watched it, it wasn't the best, but hey, I think that this scene was funny.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Right.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

I'm gonna watch Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

Right. I'm gonna go watch a comfort show or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

You know, that was that was one of my yeah, I we because Bridgerton came out in 2020. Um, what else came out in 2020? That was like that was the one Ted Lasso. No, it was that was my COVID show. Um, The Wilds.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

I haven't seen that.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

It it's good. It's only two seasons, unfortunately, got canceled after that. But it it's Lord of the Flies with girls. Ah, fun. Really good, really, really good.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Fun, fun, fun. Okay. Those are my add that to the list of bazillion things I need to watch.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

I'm so sorry. But at least I can tell you it was good. Okay. And I enjoyed.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Anything else you'd like to add on the Marvel DC front before we move on to what we've been watching recently.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

I I I have had this dream of being a superhero in the Marvel universe since I was a child.

SPEAKER_05 34:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

And I so I'm putting this out there. I I would absolutely love to be part of one of those maybe like a brand new story. Maybe we started a whole a whole brand new superhero for Marvel and to be like, we're so fucking back.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Wait, we just had a Superman movie just come out. That movie was also pretty good. I forgot about that one. What the heck? How'd I forget about that?

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Were we not talking about the same Superman?

SPEAKER_01 35:17

No. I was talking about other Supermen. I'm an idiot. Anyways.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

That is the one that I was like, yeah, DC got a leg up. Because before that, Fantastic Four wasn't bad.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

The newest one for Cascow.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

The first time they've done a Fantastic. Well, they moved out right next to each other.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

Because I was like, that's not DC.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

No, I was just like, for the first time.

SPEAKER_03 35:37

You scared me for a second. I was like, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

They kind of nailed a Superman for DC.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

And they finally nailed Fantastic IV.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

They came out at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

I know. They actually nailed those two IPs have been a struggle bus for a number of years for both of those companies to get it.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

You remember the original Fantastic?

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Oh, I remember Chris Evans. The OG Chris Evans Marvel role. That was not those were not very good movies. As nostalgic as they might be.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

And then there was the boys on Amazon.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Well, then there's that.

SPEAKER_03 36:09

Then there's that. That's a whole and Invincible came out last night. Have you seen Invincible? No.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

Yeah, how do you feel?

SPEAKER_02 36:20

It's so good. It's so good. You watch the boys.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

I don't really know. I know a lot of people like that.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

God bless you, Seth Rogan, for making these shows. They're so fucking good.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

The studio.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

They're also phenomenal. So good. You he just puts out incredible work. The boys and Invincible are I didn't know he did Invincible.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

I feel like I need to fat check that now.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

But um I'll tell I'll say you're right. I don't know the answer, so I'll just assume you're right. I want to say that I'm right about that.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Because it was very much giving like um they're not one and the same, but it is giving like the realistic side of if superheroes were in like our modern day society today.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Definitely those boys for sure.

SPEAKER_03 37:13

Yeah, but it's all like Invincible is that animated.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

Um, in a way.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

So I probably won't watch it.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

It's good.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

I don't watch things that are animated.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

You're gonna love it. You're going to love it. Haven't we been over the same way that you love it?

SPEAKER_01 37:30

This is your job. Uh technically, this pays me nothing, and my actual job is your job? Not this.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

This is your job. Your job is to understand stories that other people have put out.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Yep. But where's the line draw on what stories?

SPEAKER_03 37:48

None. Because you also gotta do it. And you also have to watch I know that they they go lower on the list, but sometimes you gotta watch things that maybe you're not gonna like. Listen, I do that all the time.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Just to be like, I've seen that, so now I can make a I can make commentary on that and have an opinion.

SPEAKER_03 38:05

A better commentary than being like I heard other people.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Yeah, or I heard people liked it. Is it bad that I forgot that Superman movie even existed in Twitter?

SPEAKER_04 38:14

Yes, that is so bad because it's so good.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

No, it's not good because it's not memorable enough for me that I literally forgot it existed. It That's bad.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

It was a culture shift.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

Maybe that's just me.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Maybe I was just in in the circles that I was running in, that was a culture shift.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

I'm not running in those circles, clearly.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

I mean, I'm not sure. It was also that like, you know, we drew a lot of um real life.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

There's yeah, there's that. Have you seen what is it?

SPEAKER_03 38:40

Come into C like Grunge. My mom, my mom had the biggest crush on on uh Arrow. Yeah. Yes. I have a video of her like buried in my Snapchat.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

And she's just like, did you ever watch Marvel Agents of Shield, by the way? You did not. I actually watched it.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

I watched The Flash on CW. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

They've been doing this for a while, the whole superhero shows that are kind of separate from the movies. Now they're like integrating them, obviously. Anyways, what have you been watching that you'd like to share with the class?

SPEAKER_03 39:15

I in a way, a different superhero. Stranger Things. Eleven. Eleven.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Or Will the Wise.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

I'm annoyed a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

Yep, let me hear it. Here we go. This is Bella's take on the Stranger Things Man.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

I love Stranger Things. Stranger Things has meant so much to me. I I I I'll make this very, very fucking clear. I stand by Palestine until the day that I fucking die. And so I was very, very conflicted about watching Stranger Things. And then I it kind of came to a point of where I'm like, I don't think I'll enjoy not to say anything, but a lot of things. Where I'm like, is it fair to give like a split cast with different political views? Like that I'm like, if half of you are on one side and half are the other, like do I just throw the whole thing away when this thing meant so much to me in my older formative years?

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Depends on how strong your morals are and feelings on that, or I guess.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

I battled.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:22

Um and so I was like, I'm gonna watch it when it's not a spot it, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Okay, that was your way of uh not adding to the popular numbers.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

I guess.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Um But it is your job, you know. It's my job.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

We're like the same thing we're like um with Snow White. I didn't watch it in theaters. I watched it when it went to Disney Plus that I do not pay for because I work at Disney, which is also like so you just give hours and hours of your time to Disney instead. They pay me money. I'm taking money from them. That's true. It's better than going to someone with uh that agrees with them all the time.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Yeah, it's true. Um, anyways, I think eleven should have just died. I mean, maybe she did.

SPEAKER_04 41:08

She didn't! For and then also for Mike to just like hold on to this for 18 fucking months? Hello?

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, huh? Yeah, it was lame.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Guys, let's graduate and then um we're gonna play one last D D game. And I was okay with that until he was like, guys, think about it.

SPEAKER_04 41:31

He was so fucking deadass about it. He was like, guys, think about it. What what would block off this power?

SPEAKER_03 41:41

This this sonic cloak, if you will.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Um and they'd be like, Yeah, uh Elle and her sister are dead, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

And then they're like, then she's not actually dead, but she could be dead to us in a way because she will probably never see her again because she's gonna go to some remote town and live out her days.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

It's the exact same thing I was complaining about with the Marvel thing. Like, it just let it, if you make the decision, like to kill her.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

Kill her.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

Narratively, that's okay. Made a lot of sense.

unknown 42:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

Like for her character, as a way of bookending it, like that she's the one that started this, and she's gonna be the one to end it. And there you go.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

And no one else died.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

Pretty much, which was other than her sister, RIP Sean Aston in the second season.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

Well, it's like well, the other thing is that like I felt like every time that they introduced a new character, that character was gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

Well, not Robin. I thought she was gonna die.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

I sure'm happy Robin died.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

No, I'm I'm too.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

I was, I I was like I thought in their gay moments together, Jonathan had to die.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

With Will and Robin.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

I was like, that's sweet.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Okay. Did you see the fan theory that the very first episode, the demogorgon that abducts Will wasn't a Demogorgon, it was actually Vecna.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

I did not see that.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

I wish that that was true. That they like made that they had wrapped that up because bringing young Will back was interesting. That was interesting.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

I didn't see that one coming.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

If you pay attention, if you go rewatch that scene, I'll go back. The demogorgons never use telekinetic powers in the show, right? They're just creatures with four. Uh the door lock on his thing just slides open magically in that scene. Demogs and demagorgons do not do that.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Ever.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

No, they don't really use their hands.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

They don't they use their mouth. That's about it.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

They have four legs mainly, really.

SPEAKER_03 43:41

Right. It's really just a leg.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

And they just stand on their hind legs and slash. They're like big bears, basically. I mean, they don't use magic powers ever. Except in that one scene, right? And like it the shadow kind of looks like that. Anyways, they didn't do that, obviously, but man, that would have been a fun little he took way. At the very, very beginning.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Yeah, like that was always back now. Would have been good.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

That would have been fun. They didn't do that.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

Happy.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Strange things overall is a good show. I had a good show. Glad we watched it and it was part of the that guys. Good God, did it need to wrap up like five, ten years earlier? Not ten, that came out ten years ago.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

They did their best.

SPEAKER_01 44:18

Five seasons in what is it, eleven years?

SPEAKER_03 44:21

I thought it was like nine.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

But maybe it was.

unknown 44:25

Don't ask me.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Uh when you're doing a show with kids set in middle school and high school, you can't let them hit their 30s. I'm sorry. You just can't. They're supposed to be researching.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

How do you feel about Max being able to graduate?

SPEAKER_01 44:44

I know. Yeah, she really did all that schoolwork from her coma.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Right. Maybe she's just smart enough. I don't know. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

You never know.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

Right. How do you feel about I saw people commenting that they're like upset that Dustin mourned Eddie more than he mourned Elle.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

I I do have to say on Dustin, I did not love his character in this season.

SPEAKER_03 45:06

I think he he just became Eddie.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

Right. He became And like I I like where he ended up. I thought it was a little bit just drama for the sake of drama to have him and uh um Jonathan's not Jonathan. Steve Steve's like feuding throughout the middle of the season. I I get why, right? No one else is, you know, taking like understanding we just lost Eddie and like he's the only one remembering him. Like I love that, and like I trust, you know. But it was almost like people gotta remember you if when you're gone, or else Right.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

With so many people that have died. I know Barb and Alexi. Yeah, Bob. Um, Bob. Um, Yosef, Mac's older brother.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Um Billy.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

Thank you.

unknown 45:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Right. She mourned him correctly.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

Yeah, I thought that was really well done.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Um, not correctly, I shouldn't say that.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

That was there's only one way to mourn.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

The correct way or the not correct way.

SPEAKER_03 46:05

I feel like it was Is that what you're trying to say? No, but it just the way that it was like shown on screen.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

Yeah, I thought that was really weird. Save Sing's a really good actor.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

That she's such a good actor. I wish that I had seen her on Broadway.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

I wish that I had also seen Ga- As Annie.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:23

Her very first. Um, I wish I had also seen Gayton in um Sweeney Todd.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Who knows? Maybe they'll go back and do more.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

But he's not gonna play too much.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

No, I know, but you know, like you're like, you wanna just see them on stage again, though, maybe. Who knows?

unknown 46:36

One day.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

I I I love when Shakespeare gets brought into the modern day. Yeah. Like, have you seen uh right? Um, but Hamlet.

unknown 46:48

Right.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Um, who who was it that did that?

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Uh God The Lion King.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

No.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Which is exactly what that movie is, by the way. Brought home. You're talking about the tragedy of Macbeth, right? The Denzel Washington is it's literally just like Macbeth. It's the it's the Macbeth play, like on film.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Where I do you believe in that curse?

unknown 47:15

No.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

I would assume not since you said it here.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

What? Macbeth?

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Yeah. Yeah. They're not supposed to say Macbeth.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

I'm aware.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

It's the name of a story.

SPEAKER_03 47:23

I know.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

You said it too.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

I think that um I'm Filipino. A lot of us are superstitious. That's like a stereotype for us. I think if you are doing the play, I would avoid it. If you are not in it currently, cast or crew.

SPEAKER_01 47:43

Yeah. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 47:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

You can you can follow the superstition for some.

SPEAKER_03 47:47

Yeah, like when you're I mean, you don't. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the reason. Say whatever you want. That like sud that a light mysteriously falls.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:56

That it wasn't rigged properly.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

No light above us. We're good.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

Okay, yeah. But um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Okay. Anything else uh you've been watching that we want to address? I've still just been watching Clarkson's Farm, which is a lovely wholesome show that I've been just re-watching because I'm going there uh in July. So me and Amanda have just been watching all the seasons of that, and that's pretty much all we've been watching. What's that?

SPEAKER_00 48:20

I watched F1. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

You mean the Oscar winner for best sound?

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Yes!

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Uh and it yeah, I had a good time. It's a good time. And the whole time that I was sitting there, my boyfriend was just teaching me about F1, and you know what? And the whole time here's Carom. Car Gove Room. And I was very much like, I don't know truly almost anything about F1. But there's also so many times where I was like, that's illegal. There's no way you could do that in a race, and they just let you keep going. And he was like, Yeah, but this is movie, so have fun.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

Yes. And I was like, intentionally crashing over and over.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

Gravel on the track, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Yeah, that one sequence in Hungary, which is the second major race in the movie, is egregious to the rules of F1. The dude would have been black flag, which means just disqualified for that.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

I was like, Yeah, and this one Jonathan was like, hey, if somebody else is like running a different lap than you, you cannot like Yeah, you're supposed to let them buy back to three corners. Yeah, you have to let them go past you because they're running a different race, but you're fucking with their time.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

And then to then if them run into you, like you would be.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

You're gonna break someone's core repeat.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

You're gonna be disqualified so fast.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Like three times the same rate?

SPEAKER_01 49:39

So fast.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Crazy, crazy.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

Is it a lot of fun? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Did I have so much fun watching it? It is absolutely funny.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

I really like the opening.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

So much so the I was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 49:49

I'll watch, I'll watch Survive to Drive to Survive. Drive to Survive.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

The first season of that show is really fun. The second season's fun. It becomes a little bit more um staged, I guess, because Oh, I was gonna I thought you were gonna say stagnant.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

I was like, I guess there's only so much you can do.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Well, I've I watch F1, right? So like I already know what's gonna happen, so I can see where they're like using editing and like stuff to make it more dramatic because it's a TV show. But back when the shows first started, they just were like flies on the wall viewing real action. Now it's like every driver and team knows up, we're gonna have Netflix crews following us this weekend. So be on your best behavior. Don't say anything weird, like don't have any, like it's it's super weird.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Weird?

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Yeah, it's it's artificial now. It's like all the teams like know they're being recorded. Before there was like drama because it was like they weren't used to cameras and mics being all over the place and they'd have private conversations. People almost die in the F1 show from brutal car accidents, and you get their live reactions to that.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

I'll save the day.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

So there's that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Not under my roof.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

Your friendly neighborhood, Bella. All right. Well, that wraps it up for this week's episode. Thank you so much for watching. Uh, this comes out uh Friday at noon. Every Friday at noon, we got episodes coming out on YouTube and Apple Podcasts. So like, comment, subscribe, as they say.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

See you guys later.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

See you next time.

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Bye. That's a wrap.