Episode #6 - Cult Classics

This week we sit down and talk cult classics! Some loved and others not so much.

Transcript

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Welcome to the Shot On Film Podcast.

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Fruity Thanks.

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Yeah. All right.

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Alrighty.

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This week. Cult classics. Whose idea was that? Yes.

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Mine for one.

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That's not true. You came up with more than half of our ideas.

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I came up with a couple of ideas. You threw in some ideas. Yeah, we'll get to those ideas.

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We'll get there. One day. Uh cult classics. What, if anything, made you want to talk about cult classics?

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I watched a new one.

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Was it uh Forbidden Fruit?

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Yeah, we'll talk about it later.

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All right, fair enough.

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Um I saw that and immediately was like, oh my god, a whole genre in a way that it's like not all of the movies have to be like the same like horror comedy drama type genre, but or like just a genre of cult classic ranges, and I love that. And I started thinking about all of the different cult things that I would consider a cult classic.

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We then looked up the definition of it, and I was like, It's kind of slightly different than what I thought it was. Yeah, where I'm like, is this a bit more broad, honestly?

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Yeah, I'm like, where it feels like one of those definitions where it's like this is what the actual definition is, but no one's looked it up. So this is what the cultural definition of it is, which is like almost slang.

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Yeah, it's like, well, any movie that has a cult following could be considered a cult classic. However, they usually are not popular and successful when they come out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my thought definition, my personal definition of a cult classic was a could be perceived as bad movie, whether that was like in ratings, popularity, success financially, or maybe nobody heard about it, and then 10 years later it's super popular. Kind of a thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But has this die hard fan base for it?

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Yes.

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Or has made like such like an unprecedented, like cut. Something that has made something that has made I'm leaving that in. Fuck you. Something that has made like an unprecedented like impact on pop culture. Yeah. Yeah.

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That makes sense. I think do you want to start with your favorite, or do you want to get there because I know we had one topic we wanted to discuss in the cult classics. Should we start there? Sure. All right, because I think fiction.

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Oh, I was like, because I don't remember what you're talking about. Oh.

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Yeah.

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Oh, great.

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Let's talk about Pulp Fiction. Very popular movie with a cult following. Wasn't I mean it was successful critically when it came out because it did win the Oscar for Best Screenplay. It did. And I honestly think the thing that was most interesting about that movie, again, I've come back to this. The editing. Nonlinear editing. I like nonlinear editing. And it was all over the place. So that was, and you don't see that as much back then. Um let me see. Any other positive things to say? Um I mean, obviously there's iconic scenes in the shake and stuff, but like it's kind of a boring movie.

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Yeah.

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And I don't understand why it's so popular. But maybe it, I don't know, it's not made for me.

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Girl wasn't made for me either, apparently. Because I I haven't seen Pulp Fiction, I think, since I was in middle school, maybe.

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I mean, maybe give it one more watch, but eh.

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I here's the thing is that my my friend Adam rewatched it. Yeah. He was like, girl, what the fuck? I don't why this was getting I shouldn't be throwing his shit out like that.

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We'll have him on the pod and he can share whatever he wants to.

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Yeah, yeah. Adam, Adam will will be here. He's one of our people in line to be a guest. Yes, yes, yes. He won't be um afraid to spill some tea. Yeah. But we'll say he he didn't he didn't like it, didn't get it, um, and was just kind of like, I don't know.

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There are scenes that I like.

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The plot was what?

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Um It's a multi-level plot. My least favorite part is Tarantina putting himself in it and saying the N-word a number of times. Don't love that. Ron.

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I mean, I've got to be like, that's like one directory.

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Like the scene with the Anne with the when he points the gun at the guy and he says, say what again? That's the one.

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No, the thing is that it's it's never really a dig on the actors. No, that's a fun scene. For me, it's a dig on the directors and the writers. Because what? What? Also, I have just heard from so many people in the industry to stay the fuck away from Quentin Tarantino.

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Yeah, I've heard the same.

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That is the maybe only director I'm not afraid to offend. Because I'm like, I I he doesn't care if you offend him, he's not offended. No, he doesn't give a fuck about me.

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Yeah.

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And that's fine.

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I He's gotten in fights with like reporters in parking lots before on camera.

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Okay, well, who hasn't?

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I haven't. What are you saying? You have?

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No. But I think about like celebrities in paparazzi.

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No, I I like I I don't get it because I'm not a celebrity and I haven't had a giant throng of reporters and photographers following me everywhere I go.

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It's not I don't imagine it's fun.

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I would be very sensory overloaded and I would want security with me at all times if I had to.

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I think you would kill someone.

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Yeah. No, I mean I wouldn't.

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Not like that. I think maybe an accident. Like the way that like I'd probably push somebody. The way that they like ambushed Toby Maguire that one time. Yeah. And he was like, I can't see because of all the flashing cameras. And he was like, I'm gonna kill someone.

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Yeah, no, the the light sensitivity thing that I have, autism, you know. It's not great. I don't like the flashing lights, I don't like clubs.

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The bullshit that people give to Chapel Roan for paparazzi shit. And I'm like, they're not mad at her calling her a bitch, but when it happens to fucking Toby and Justin Bieber, they're like, oh my god, guys, leave them alone. Don't bother them.

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Yeah.

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Don't ever put a woman in such a dangerous situation.

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Yeah.

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Don't put peri people, period.

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So that that is a cult classic, I would say, pulp fiction.

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Um I had a friend in high school that that did the the costume with like the bob and the needles and the blood.

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Okay, she did the Uma Thurman thing.

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Anyway, so that was T.

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Um is a cult classic.

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If somebody else wants to explain pulp fiction to us, it's just a mediocre movie.

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Tarantino has better movies. He does. And Glorious Pastors is great.

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Yeah, he does. I still don't like him.

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I know.

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It's really hard to respect that man as a person.

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That's fair.

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Uh why does he say the N-word so easily?

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I don't know.

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That's what I don't trust.

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I don't know.

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That and the foot thing. Let's be fair. Let's fucking say it.

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Yeah, the foot thing. I mean the fact that the fact that Uma Thurman told her daughter if you ever work with Tarantino, keep your shoes on.

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What happened?

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I mean, have you seen Kill Bill?

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What happened?

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Move your big toe. And it's like a close-up of her big toe.

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Uh uh.

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Yeah.

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I did. I didn't. I did. Anyways. Um, favorite cult classic? Transition.

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Um, I'm torn between two 80s films.

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Okay.

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Uh, The Shining and The Princess Bride.

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Slay. Very, very good.

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Very, very different films. Like polar opposite ends of the spectrum. But that's not a bad movie at all. I know some people don't think it's scary. I think it's great.

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Um, the thing is, it's one of those movies where I'm like, I don't know if watching it, I'm scared.

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I'm just uncomfortable.

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But the situation itself is scary.

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It's terrifying.

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And I I mean, we all experienced it. We all experienced uh what's that called?

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Cabin fever.

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Thank you. I was like, when you're locked in a in a room for two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean we're in a giant hotel by ourselves, usually. At least maybe most of us weren't.

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I don't know. I don't know your life. But yeah, I was like, that thing where you're like locked in in a room or a house for too long and you start to go a little stir crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

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Amanda gets that pretty bad. If she's like in the house for the whole weekend, she'll get that.

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That I actually just talked to her about that too, about like living alone. I was like, I I literally was like, I think if you were less sociable, maybe I said that you would be good living alone. I because you are more of like the uh hermit type.

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Yes.

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And then I was like, I think as long as you literally still had like pasta Tuesdays and had maybe one more hangout with your friends, you'd be just fine.

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You are correct.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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That's all you need every day.

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I would go crazy if I wasn't able to talk to people still, even if I didn't live with them. I would still like be talking to friends, or I would be talking to my dog or whatever. Yeah, I guess.

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But you'd be fine.

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I talk to myself all the time.

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Yeah.

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I talk to myself so much that my coworkers today shut their door because I was talking to myself so much. That's a true story. Sorry, Sam.

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Um Hi, Sam.

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We're talking about you on the podcast, Sam. Against your will. Anyways.

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Um you want to come say hi? Come here.

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This is all gonna get cut out.

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Keep it in. Keep it in.

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I don't have another money.

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That was last week.

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Whatever they say about me is probably true. Oh, I was just saying I tend to talk to myself and I pissed you off so much today you closed your door. Oh no. Yeah, we just for five. It looks pretty good. Excited about it. Thanks for joining. We'll have you on a full episode at some point. Cameo. That's Sam. Uh, we love Sam. So funny. Sam produced my last short film. I'm going to promote that on this podcast when it's ready. As you should. Yeah. We are this close, guys. I know none of you know about it until just now. All however many viewers and listeners there are.

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We have so many things. We have so many things going on.

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I am tired. This close. I have one VFX shot, and I gotta finish the mix, and then we're done. We are right there. It'll maybe be done in the next week. I don't know, it depends on how long it takes my VFX artist. But sound is like ready to go, pretty much, once I do the final mix, and I will have by far the best short film I've ever made. Like it's not even close. I still hate it though. But that's because, you know. Listen, if you've ever made something, you will know that it's always better in your head than it is when you put it out there. I cringe less watching this than I have ever cringed watching anything else I've made.

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Then you need to fucking relax.

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It's still a giant leap forward and improvement in my abilities. As a filmmaker, I still see all of its flaws and can't see any of the good stuff for the most part because I'm just I've seen it hundreds and hundreds of times. I've been sitting with the script for three years. Like it's it's the iterations, you know. It's like little things. It's like, ah, I wish I would have shot that slightly different, which would have given a different note here. Like it's the best of what I could do at the time, and I'm happy about that. Anyways, what's your favorite cult classic?

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My favorite uh cult classic is what I call it a classic, yet don't know. But cult, yes, Twilight. Oh you have the floor. That's not a fucking cult.

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No, it's a cult.

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But it's one of those things where I'm like, yes, and you were and and the thing is, is that Twilight fans, myself included, will be like, no, it's bad, that's the point.

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Yeah.

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And I special it's one of those things where like, but I loved it so much as a nine-year-old.

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Right.

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Like, I loved it so I think like, yeah, my 14th birthday was going to see Breaking Dawn Part 2 at the Grove Theater with my friends. That was my whole 14th birthday. That we got dinner, we got to walk around the Grove for the first time for me. And I mean, I get it.

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It just wasn't made for me at all.

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I'm sorry that you're not a teenage girl.

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When I was 12, I went and saw the Avengers at the opening premiere of that, the original Avengers. No, I was 14. I was totally 14. What am I talking about?

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I was 12.

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Yeah.

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So did I.

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Yeah. So I did that. It's because straight-ish. I don't like vampires. B bye. That's not true. Since it's so good.

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You want to talk about vampires?

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Yeah.

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No.

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You want else has a cult? Interview with a vampire. True. I've now joined the cult.

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Also, I've joined the cult. That is all that was my number one what I wanted to talk about. That is a cult classic.

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That has a good movie, though.

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It is a good movie and people die. Um people with Jennifer's body are like they they love it so deeply, so down. The the the cosplays for it, the like fuck, people do research of it. Insane. I saw people doing like college dissertations about like the the depth of Jennifer's body. And then, like, didn't Megan Fox was like, she was like, I I literally can't top that.

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That's her best role.

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She did phenomenal. Do it again.

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We don't need to be able to do that.

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No, I know I don't want Jennifer's body part two because it's gonna just ruin it.

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No, don't don't do that. Don't suggest that.

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Oh, that should be a different podcast episode.

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What's movies that do need sequels?

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No, yeah, just sequels in general of like what ruined their franchise.

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Oh god. Let's talk about sequels in general. And and what needs too good sequels, bad sequels. Yeah. And things like that.

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How do you feel about fucking Toy Story 5? Shut up. That's for a different day. Anyways. Yes, uh, Jennifer's body was insane. Um, I want to talk about this because this it it in the three things that I told you that I was like, these are cult classics, and I need to discuss them was Jennifer's Body, Twilight, and the fucking room with Tommy Wiseau.

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Okay. The room, Tommy Wiseo.

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What? Why? And why have I seen it? And then I've never finished it.

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Twilight, of course. I've seen no high mark, but you know.

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Right. Why was that like the I feel like that was such that was a start for like meme culture?

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What was the James Franco remake called? The I've seen that one.

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I have seen that. Um don't ask me. But I uh, anyways, the original movie I feel like was the start of like meme culture with movies.

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No.

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That sounds close to something though.

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Disaster artist, that's what it is. Yeah.

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So much money for what?

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Well, he had a lot of money.

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And he made a film.

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And he made a film. Now, don't get me wrong, Tommy Wiseau. If I had a lot of money, I would do the exact same thing you did and make a movie.

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So conflicted.

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I would do the same thing if I was him with money and make a movie.

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I'm so I'm confused. I'm afraid. I just Huh?

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I don't know.

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And so many people have seen it.

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I would not star in it, that's for sure. But I don't like being in front of the camera as I'm in front of three.

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Uh I don't under but that getting more used to this. But that made such an interesting cultural impact, I believe.

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It did. I don't know how and why. I mean, we're kind of young because that was at 03, I think. Like we were not old enough to be alive kind of.

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But when it became popular in like where I was like, I have experienced the weird culture shift that this has made in five, ten years later. Yeah, like I was like, I was like a senior in high school, and then when I went to be a freshman in college, well, that's be also because disaster artist was coming out right around then. And everyone was like, What is this fucking movie? We all have to see it. Right. And some people were like, have fuck with it. And some people were like, art is not a real thing.

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Art is subjective, always has been, always will be.

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Yeah.

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And I'm not saying that's what Tommy Wezo did with the room.

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Fine is the defining factor.

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That's true. It's not fine art. I can tell it definitively. The room is not fine art. The things I've- There are only a certain a few films that I would say are probably fine art, and I can't categorize them right now, but Sure. Yeah. Not all of them are.

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I I want to understand the fucking. I I want us understand what goes on in the phenomenons of cult classics. I don't get it. It feels like sure, but if it that that's the thing, it feels like one of those things where like, you know, you like watch a movie and you're like, that understood a a deep part of me I couldn't really put words to also somehow was categorized under a cult classic.

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I think it's probably too young to be a cult classic. I don't think it has a big enough cult following either.

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But when you looked up the definition, was that not?

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It did get it was in there.

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Which is weird. And to me, that that gives it more it's more indie film coming of age. So I wouldn't have called that a cult classic, but it was if if you ask Google, that's what they said.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

Anyway, I mean there was dozens and dozens of movies, obviously. Right, right, right. Donnie Darko, that's a good one.

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Yeah, I remember that being there. Um it it anyways, you know that thing where like you watch a movie and you're like, this understood me in a way that I didn't know how to put words. I feel like that's what these cult classics do, is that like this very niche thing that people were like, I fuck with that, I get it.

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That's related to the masses though. Like there's a giant sect of people that like cult, but it gets there.

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It's like almost like being before the trend. We're like, I also believe that like like Babylon far beyond its time. We're like this.

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I don't know why that movie has so much backlash and like wasn't as popular as it was.

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Girl could have got me because I fucked with it. It's a great movie immediately.

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I own it.

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It's really good.

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I bought it after we watched it the first time. I was like, I'm gonna buy that. That's a good movie.

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Yeah, I remember being like, God, this soundtrack is so fucking good. It's so good. I was like, uh as people that work in that industry, I was like, no, that's so relatable. Every single time that I I I think of about the um the actors that are like all sitting on the hill just waiting. I was like, oh, I've been there.

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Relatable.

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Yeah, I was like, no, that's actually the realest thing I've ever seen on a big screen. And I was like that, yes, he is. He's great. Plays the fucking devil.

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Yeah, he's so good.

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Bit into a rat.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Crazy. Fuck that movie's insane and somehow pretty realistic.

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I mean, yeah. I would assume for acting in the 20s and 30s or whatever that was, but yeah, yeah, even realistic for now.

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Yeah, some parts were definitely like, oh, been there.

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Honestly, that movie is like the aviator or parts of the aviator, but directed by Damien Chazelle, not Martin Scorsese.

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But anyways, that that's like one of those things where I'm like, yeah, when you watch this movie, only these people get it. And then people grow up and things change about people, and then like more people are like, you know what? I get it now.

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Right.

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Same like uh even like when I watched Jennifer's Body when I was in my tweens, I was just very much like so. She's she's like a vampire in a way. I didn't understand like a succubus. Um, and then I got older and I was like, that's gay.

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Yes, yeah. No wonder you liked it so much.

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Yeah, I didn't I didn't I I get it now.

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Yep.

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When I was a kid, I was just kind of like, I don't know, just kind of it they kissed. They did, and um, that was cool. I don't know you could do that, anyways.

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Um cult classics, I made a cult, yeah, yeah.

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Everything's fine.

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Any other cult classics that you wanted to address? Oh, nightmare before Christmas was a cult classic, was not popular when it came out.

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Really? Yeah, it's not like a bad movie either. I think cult classic. I thought that was somewhat original, and by somewhat I mean very original. I mean, yes. Well, the thing was that in '93. Yeah, I'm I was born in '98. So in my head, I was like, yeah, this has always been around.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

Yes. It was a cult classic by the time you were born and old enough to watch it.

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Uh huh.

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But uh when it came out, I was scared of it as a track. Oh, for sure. It's creepy.

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I was scared of Oogie Boogie Blade Runner.

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The original Blade Runner. The bugs that come out of him. Yeah.

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Scared the fuck out of me.

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I don't know if you've seen Blade Runner. Um, oh, that's a good one. Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I love that movie. It's so stupidly wonderful.

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But that's I think that's another thing about Gold Glasses is that you're like, yeah, it's stupid. Oh, it's it's it's it's Monty Python. It has this like a

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Yeah. Yeah. Just a flesh wound.

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It's been a while. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

I think I watched it as a kid.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

I mean, the dude rides around on a fake horse just doing this, and the guy behind him has coconuts. I mean, they are not taking themselves to it.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

I'm not trying to be serious right now. Not at all. What's that? It just definitely there it is. There's just a little bit of absurdity to it.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Oh. But that's why Monty Python for me.

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And then I think that like all most cult classics, things that are considered cult classics, have just a little bit of absurdity.

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Yeah.

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You're like, and what about it? Oh no, you can see the fucking man behind the curtain.

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Yeah. Or we'll just pretend.

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I mean You knew he was there, now you see him, and now you're upset.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

Get a grip.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

Um Breakfast Club.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Really?

SPEAKER_04 22:47

Yep.

unknown 22:48

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

I know. He is a good movie. Good movies out here.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

That was just bad.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

Oh, Napoleon Dynamite.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

I don't get it.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

I don't get it.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

I know so many people love that movie.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

But is definitely a big cult classic. It's a super big cult classic. Especially here's another thing about.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

I chuckled watching it, you know, but like.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

If you see um it as a Halloween costume often enough, might be a cult classic.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

Now, I will say it was made by like, I think I want to say like college students on like a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny budget.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:23

So the fact that it is as popular as it is is a great testament to the work that they did on that, and I think that's really cool.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

You're so nice.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

I am.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

I don't get it. And I would not be upset if someone actually mansplained the fuck out of that to me because I genuinely I've seen it once. I'm staring at it the way that I like stare at my car when it's like, what do you mean this is broken?

SPEAKER_04 23:45

I don't know. Not not for me. I don't know. I don't really like comedy movies all that much in general. It takes a lot for me to like a movie that's solely made just to make people laugh, which is crazy, but it's true. Anything else on the list of cult classics according to IMTB that are good? Heathers. I fuck with Heathers. Heathers is fun.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

The movie and the musical.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Well, I think that's all we wanted to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Fantastic. So I get to talk about what I wanted to talk about. What made this entire thing being like, yeah, we can make an entire episode out of this. Forbidden Fruits. I watched this movie. Yes, now we're gonna talk about what we taught what we watched this week, and what I watched this week is what made me say, let's do this episode this week. Forbidden fruit.

SPEAKER_04 24:29

Forbidden fruit.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Oh, Lily Reinhart. Bitch, that was good for her.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

That was good for her. It is um basically the craft. If you've seen the craft, it's a it's it it is these four in a way five. No spoilers though, because this movie literally just came out. Um girly pops in a coven that work at um a boutique in the mall.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is so cunty. Immediately I was like, oh, this was this was made for gay girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:11

So you're saying I'm the target audience?

SPEAKER_02 25:13

You would you would watch it and then look at me and be like, you put me here. I didn't put my myself here.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is factual. But hey, you should just be happy that you're invited to the sleepover. Because I was watching this and I was like, this is the perfect sleepover movie for girly pops that want to be like, I'm like 19 to 27, and I want to have a, you know what? I shouldn't say that because the girly pop that I went to go watch it with, hottie. She's turning 30, and she fucked with it so heavy.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Yeah. Um, any women, period. Um, girlhood, period. In the fun way that we were like, I was a little psychotic as a child, and this is watching psychotic as a child, but in like a 20-year-old's body.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

It was the new cult classic. It I literally watched it and I was like, this is going now. It is going to be a cult classic.

SPEAKER_04 26:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yes. It was it was cunty.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

And some the seems like that from the description trailer. Images I've seen of it.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

It was like the perfect balance of like this writing was clever, and also that was so perfectly cringy.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

It looks cringy.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Yeah, I had a time. I had a good time. I was and it was also one of those things where I was like, hey, not ever not everything gotta be so fucking. Not everything's gotta cure cancer.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

No, definitely not.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Was it that's something that Renee Rapp said when they were making uh Mean Girls the movie? Um, Mean Girls 2, Mean Girls Musical for a movie. She was like, bitch, we are not curing cancer. No, we are singing songs in high school. And I was like, I love you. I love Renee Rapp for that.

SPEAKER_04 27:03

We know.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

I love Renee Rapp.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

If you didn't know, now you know Bella loves Renee Rap.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

I do.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

But if you know her, you already knew.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

You already know. You already knew that I was a hosier girl that loves Renee Rap.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

It's true. Anything else you want to add on the fruits that are forbidden?

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Uh Victoria Paretti.

SPEAKER_04 27:26

What about her?

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Love her.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Absolutely love. I loved actually like watching her play dumb. As I was like, I know that you're so much smarter than this, and watching you like in so many like serious roles prior, like watch serious roles in like a way that like like haunting a hill's house was very serious. Very serious. Still my favorite thing.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

I love that show so much.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Has a special place in my heart for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

And then watching her in you.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Love you, Mike Flanagan.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Watching her in you. Cast me. Watching her in you.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

I would say let me edit your stuff, but you literally edit your own stuff, so yep.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I do so well in horror and dramas.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

What are you saying? You're just a talented actress, you can do anything.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Yeah, and I have a degree in religion.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

In case you needed that.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

In case you needed that.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Because he does like to have those religious themes in a lot of his movies.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

And a girl likes to fucking night mass. Hold them out and be like, uh, I like I like to use them, I like to bend them, I like to be like, this this was a problem in the church and it didn't come from the Bible.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Throw your knives out, maybe wake up dead man.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

So good. Anyways.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Um yes, but anyways, to like watch her in like the roles like that, and then be like, oh, you are just a girly pop that is just sweet and caring and might have an IQ of 12.

SPEAKER_04 28:54

No, that's offensive. That was not.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

No, that was mean. That wasn't true. But you know, but but just not using her brain to the fullest extent.

SPEAKER_04 29:04

It's acting.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

I'm just talking about the character.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

I've never talked about acting like that. I thought you were talking about the actor.

SPEAKER_04 29:11

I was like, what are you saying? That's mean.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Oh my god, no.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

I was trying to defend her. I was like, what are you coming? I thought you liked her. You're coming at her right now. No, I love her. Oh my god, no.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

I'm saying that that the character has My bad misunderstanding, misunderstanding. It's okay. You didn't watch the movie.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

I did not. Just have to clarify.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

No, that that character, she was like heart of gold and just doesn't use her whole brain. And that's you know, that's okay. I don't want to use my whole brain all the time.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

I I almost never do. It's exhausting. I no, I don't want to. I do all the time, but I don't want to. It's exhausting.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Do you get I've I've learned that boys all of all walks of life have this. Do you get to do the like whiteboard thing where you just like go blank and you don't think of anything?

SPEAKER_04 29:57

I don't have the ability to not think of anything.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Anything.

SPEAKER_04 30:01

I can't.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

You can't just turn it off.

SPEAKER_04 30:03

Unless no, even when I'm like super drunk, I still can't turn it off all the way. It's exhausting.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

You're the first man that's told me you can't do that, they can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Yeah, it's called autism.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

One of them was autistic.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Hyperactive brain.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

One of them was autistic.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Autism with severe anxiety.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Maybe two of them actually might be autistic. The second one's unconfirmed.

SPEAKER_04 30:27

I'm technically unconfirmed, but like hey.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Hey, hold my hand.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

Yeah. It's confirmed. We don't need a diagnosis.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

I don't think we need a doctor's note for that one.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Yeah, no. But I do if I want to get the uh national parks pass.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Maybe we get you diagnosed.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

Yeah. I could get free national parks for life.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Do I get one for S C D?

SPEAKER_04 30:50

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Oh, mama's going.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

It's a permanent disability.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Mama's why was that in quotations?

SPEAKER_04 30:57

Because that's what they call it. The f on the forum. It's like a permanent disability form for a national parks pass. Oh, yes. It's not going away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Okay, cool. Anyways. Um, no, I would never say that about Victoria as a person. I'm saying her character.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

She's clarifying.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

I need to clarify that because, girl, don't ever hurt my heart like that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

I was trying to defend. I was like, wait, what's happening? You 180'd here.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I love her deeply.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

She's misunderstood. That's all. I know. That's what I thought you were saying, and then you were insulting her. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

She's a fucking angel. As a character and a person.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Dear Lord. Also, I think that this was this was for for Miss Lola. I think that I was like, yeah, you made subtle acting choices where I was like, no, that was good.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

I love when you notice those kinds of things.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

It is my my expertise.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Well, not just you, just like in general. It's my main expertise. When one can notice, like, oh, that was a good choice.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They like small things to you where I'm like, I twitch. Good. That was good. That was good.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Last night, and we'll get to the we were watching a movie last night, which I didn't want to go.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

I was like, that was good. Um that was the other thing I'll be like, well, these are the two things that I've watched this week.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Well, yeah, we can just get there now if you want.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Palm Springs.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Palm Springs. Pretty fucking good.

SPEAKER_04 32:15

Pretty fun. I've seen it before. That was my third time watching it, but you'd never seen anybody watch it last night. Um really fun. I was gonna say there's a something that Kristen does with her face. Um like towards the end of the movie, I try not to spoil it, but like she's in she's waking up in the bed, um, and the guy's in the shower. Um and she like realizes that and she does this like weird like face twitchy thing in her throat. But well, it's right before she goes and actually goes in the shower and confronts him that time. Um she does this like weird like face tension thing, and you can see like her temples almost like moving as she's like trying to debate what she's doing.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:53

But like that's the only thing that moves on her face. Outside of that, her face stays the exact same, but you can tell she's like thinking, and I was like, that was really interesting. I love that. And I was like, I can hear the director going, yes, yes, you know, like as he's watching the monitor for her doing that.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Really fucking good.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Yeah, that's a fun movie.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

That was a really fun movie.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

For those of you that don't know, uh, the premise is basically uh the premise of uh Palm Springs is basically uh it's a groundhog day time loop, you know, movie, but it's set at like a wedding, so Andy Sandberg's character's already stuck in the time loop and then God knows how long he's been there. J.K. Simmons is in there too. He's fun.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Um you still need to watch Invincible.

SPEAKER_04 33:35

Fair. Uh yeah, but it's just it's a time loop and they get up to stuff. Uh it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

They're just very like, yeah, yeah, no. Nothing, nothing. Nothing gets me out of this fucking loop. Nope.

SPEAKER_04 33:48

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

You haven't tried this? What makes you think that I haven't tried it?

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Not sleeping, they try.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Yeah, they try it everything in the day book, and so they're like, well, I guess if I can't die, I might as well live. And whatever that means to them or on any given day. On any day, fuck it, sure. Because you know what? When I close my eyes and I rest my head, none of it matters.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

Nope. Nobody remembers. It's right back to the start.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Nope, nope, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_04 34:13

Nope, nope, nope. What an interesting concept. That would be horrible after a few dozen days.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

So long. Yeah. I think I could maybe do that for a few weeks, maybe at the most. I think a month. Depending. I think it because it depends on like where I'm at.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Like what is available to me. Because I'm also thinking because their bank account is practically any forever.

SPEAKER_04 34:42

Whatever money you have slash on your credit limit slash in your bank account is the money you can spend on that day forever.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Yeah. That's it. And the other thing is that even if you were like, oh, I spent more money than I had, doesn't matter tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

The card got declined. Oh well.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Oh well, I'll go to sleep.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

It'll be back.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Right.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

So steal a plane, for sure. I would do that.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 35:04

Um, definitely joy riding in a cop car that was that looked like fun. The thing is, is like I'm actually jealous of J.K. Simmons' character because he wakes up in Irvine in his home. They wake up at this far-off destination at a wedding and have to just be at this wedding every day versus he could just have a normal day if he wanted to or go anywhere in his normal vicinity. I feel like that'd be a lot easier to do.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Yeah, that's the other thing about waking up in Palm Springs, that we said they're like everything is far as fuck. Everything is very spread out in Palm Springs.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

So you like, even if you're like, I want to go here, that's gonna be like a 35-minute drive. And now that's like knowing that you only have like 24 hours max. Not even like 24 hours, because I don't think that you can stay up that long. Maybe like 16, 18 hours max.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

Yeah. Unless you're in the ICU and they're keeping you awake. Which they talk about.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04 36:00

I wouldn't like the dying. But you're gonna wake up again. Well, yeah, I don't want to get like slow killed and have miserable pain before I wake up.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

No, you're not wrong. It's just why so many?

SPEAKER_04 36:17

I mean, if I had to die, I wouldn't want to do it in a slow way, is all I'm saying. Okay, and if I mess up the day, it's like, well, time to kill myself so that I can wake up tomorrow and try again. That's kind of the premise of the whole movie. That's what Andy Sandberg does. It's really good. It's a fun time.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

It was a good time.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

Cute, fun, yeah, funny.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Fun time.

SPEAKER_04 36:38

Yeah. It's a good time.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Um, I have nothing else to add on the I've seen recently front. I will say I'm going to see Project Hail Mary tomorrow. So I will definitely be reviewing that movie on the next episode.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

I may or may not be able to watch Project Hail Mary tomorrow, depending on do I finish submitting my taxes?

SPEAKER_04 37:02

That's so fair. You have 16 days to go.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

I have like 12 W-2s.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

I have like eight, so yeah, fair.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Actually, it's like three and then five, ten ninety-nine.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

But I think, I think, yeah, tomorrow I should be able to finish that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

We'll find out. Yeah. We love tax season.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

Yay!

SPEAKER_04 37:22

And I want to move to Europe where there's way more taxes.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 37:28

Well, the tax rate is way higher there.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

I knew that, but I'm like, why do you have to just like file longer?

SPEAKER_04 37:33

Well, actually, not to get into this on the film podcast, but uh if you're an American and you move internationally, you still have to pay American taxes on top of the taxes you pay in the other country. But you can defer some of them, you can like write some of it off, but there's certain depends on how you make money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, that's complicated, and we'll cross that bridge if and when I decide to leave the country. Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 37:56

Yeah, if you've looked at us and thought if they don't like it here, they should leave. Know that we tried.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

Yeah, we're trying. We don't like it here.

unknown 38:06

Bye!

SPEAKER_04 38:07

Have a great rest of your week. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

That's a wrap.