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Episode #9 - Guilty Pleasures
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This week we discuss our guilty pleasure movies and shows while getting into numerous tangents. Hope you enjoy!
Cheers.
SPEAKER_02Welcome to the Shot On Film Podcast.
SPEAKER_04Ooh, that one was worse than usual for you. Love that.
SPEAKER_02Kind of under my nose a little bit.
SPEAKER_04That always feels good, you know? I prefer it when it goes right down the throat and uh where it belongs.
SPEAKER_02So it's one time, me and Harrison. I was about to tell this story.
SPEAKER_04That's perfect.
SPEAKER_00We were gonna watch Haunting at his first apartment when we were in college. True.
SPEAKER_02And I don't know what made us be like, you know what? We need a shot right now.
SPEAKER_04Well, nothing's much has changed.
SPEAKER_02Harrison doesn't need much of a reason at all. I literally could have walked into any room and been like, Hey. You know I'm what?
SPEAKER_04Hey. What? I don't know what you're implying.
SPEAKER_01That you don't need much to take a shot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, all right. You might be right about that.
SPEAKER_01Huh?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay. Go on.
SPEAKER_02Anyways, am I wrong?
SPEAKER_04No arguments.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04No further questions.
SPEAKER_02Um that we were like, well, we went to the kitchen and we we what was it flavored, Jack Daniels?
SPEAKER_04It was Apple, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Like green apple.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Or was honey. It was one of the two.
SPEAKER_02No, there was no way.
SPEAKER_04Either way.
SPEAKER_02Either way, it burned like a bitch.
SPEAKER_04It went down both of our lungs and not into our stomachs.
SPEAKER_02And then coughed, and then maybe went down the wrong, the right one, like on its way back up.
SPEAKER_04A U-turn. Yeah. Um both of us at the same time.
SPEAKER_02At the same time. And then we were just like dying.
SPEAKER_04Remember that to this day, honestly.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, it's still so funny to me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, every time I take a shot, I think about that at this point. Really? I'm like worried it's gonna happen again. It's happened maybe once since then, you know.
SPEAKER_02I do worry now. Because I'd never experienced that before having that with you. That was true. And then it was just us like on the ground being like, that was the worst fucking experience of my life. And everything just burned. Like viciously burned in my throat. It was so bad.
SPEAKER_04Twas painful.
SPEAKER_02It was so bad.
SPEAKER_04Anyways, I know that's what you guys are all here for. Uh this week. Guilty pleasure movies.
SPEAKER_02I guess alcohol can be a guilty pleasure.
SPEAKER_04Or it's just a pleasure. Depends on who you are.
SPEAKER_02It depends on how how often you go in a church. Well.
SPEAKER_04Guilty pleasures. Guilty pleasures. So obviously, guilty pleasure movies are movies that the general consensus out on them is that they're not very good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And that we might feel guilty for enjoying them or finding pleasure in them. So I don't think all of mine are general consensus. Everybody hates them, but I would say the majority of people do not enjoy them.
SPEAKER_01That's fair.
SPEAKER_04Or don't really know what they are, or have watched it once and are like, yeah, that was kind of mid.
SPEAKER_02And I'm like, no, it was fun. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_04You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think it's one of the one time where like me and Harry talked about this like before we've been like, what do you got? Right. I have more TV shows than I do movies, and you have movies.
SPEAKER_04I don't have any guilty pleasure TV shows that I thought of when we decided to do this topic.
SPEAKER_02That's okay.
SPEAKER_04But I have five movies.
SPEAKER_02I have I have I have TV shows. Okay. I have a couple movies, but I I um I I I've I feel like I've talked about one before at this point. I don't totally remember it, but I'm so sure that I have. Um probably you do. Probably. And then two of them, I just think it is funny that they are Eddie Murphy things.
SPEAKER_01They're both Eddie Murphy movies.
SPEAKER_02So I looked up beforehand to be like, what? Because in my head, I know it's hard to see like what's like a guilty pleasure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And be like, because if you like it, then like, you know, maybe you don't think it's bad. And unless you talk to other people, like you're how are you gonna know?
SPEAKER_04I'm sure we're not the only human beings on the planet that enjoy these movies.
SPEAKER_02And it's one of those things where like I wouldn't consider these like bad movies.
SPEAKER_04I would just say that they're not like as many people's favorite movies.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't hear it as often.
SPEAKER_04I have a couple like sequels in mine that are like generally regarded as some of the worst in said series, and I'm like, nah, I like it.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_02So I guess I'll start some of the princess sequels from Disney. I'm like, no, that was cute. I liked it. And then other people are like I love Cinderella 3.
SPEAKER_04I agree, it's pretty good. Two is pretty bad though.
unknownI like two.
SPEAKER_04See, that's a guilty pleasure. There you go. I think general consensus is two is pretty bad.
SPEAKER_02But it's so cute, and I just like the little, it's just little vignettes.
SPEAKER_04Have you seen the Sleeping Beauty like Christmas one with the organ bad guy who's like the giant organ, pipe organ?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_04Ah, good times. Little animated like 1998 Sleeping Beauty.
SPEAKER_02See, here's the thing.
SPEAKER_04I also beat you Oh my gosh, beauty and the beast. Oh my gosh, beauty and the beast. My bad. My bad. Here's my other thing.
SPEAKER_02I also at first thought you said organ, like an internal organ. And I was like, excuse me. Nah. Forte. He's the bad guy. That's so funny. That's funny. If that's gonna be a guilty pleasure, then maybe I do have a guilty pleasure movie. Like for sure, and it's gonna be Cinderella too. Alright, fair enough. I love Cinderella too. Uh, enough that we were like, and I think that this turned into like my own like hot girl niche. Um, I love cassette tapes. Okay. And I like, I know who the fuck. Um, I have cassette tapes, and I like going on my hot girl walks and like having indie film lover of you. Thanks. Thanks. I know it's annoying, but I do like it. It made me somebody's manic pixie dream girl, I know. Um probably. But like that, my love for that started with a cassette tape of Disney princess songs, and like at least half of it were songs from the Cinderella 2 movie. Oh my god. And they're so good.
SPEAKER_04So what is that, like very early 2000s?
SPEAKER_02Well, y'all don't know, uh, listen, there there's a part in that movie where where Jack Jack turns into Jacques.
SPEAKER_04I remember this.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I remember this. And then part of there's a part of the oh, and I don't know who the singer is, but girl, fire.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely beautiful. She said, When you're small, one inch tall, and then you're six foot two.
SPEAKER_04I remember the song.
SPEAKER_02It's good.
SPEAKER_04I was raised by sisters. I've seen it many times. Have you seen the We're just on the tangent of Disney Secrets?
SPEAKER_00I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_04Have you seen Peter Pan 2 Return to Neverland?
unknownYes, the fuck I have.
SPEAKER_04That one's fun. I know, but I just you got me going.
SPEAKER_01This keeps happening to us. Oh well. Oh well. Oh well. There's overlaps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Get over it.
SPEAKER_04That movie is really interesting. What about Lady in the Tramp 2? Scamp's Great Adventure. I have not. That one I hate. That was my little sister's favorite one growing up, and I watched it three or four times in a day. One time when she was sick. She's like, watch it again. And I was like, please, no. And my mom was like, She's sick. She gets to pick. And I was like, I'm only two years older than her, so I don't know. It's probably like five or six years old, you know. I love Sydney. And then they did that to me with Starstruck. Do you remember Starstruck, the Disney movie?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, D-comms?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I had the flu one day, and my sisters did too, and they're like, let's watch Starstruck, and then they watch it too.
SPEAKER_02All decoms are guilty pleasures for our generation.
SPEAKER_04And that's fair. That one, that one is not a pleasurable experience for me, but I'm sure other people like it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, we need to get out of sequels because this will be a whole separate episode.
SPEAKER_04So my first one is a sequel. Jesus.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04It's a Star Wars film, which is generally considered the worst of well, at the time it was considered the worst Star Wars film made, potentially. Although I think the Attack of the Clones is worse than this one. The Last Jedi. Star Wars The Last Jedi. A lot of people don't like Ryan Johnson's work on that one. Like, I don't know if you have any opinions on this film.
SPEAKER_02I I my thing was I remember just being really. I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan. I'm a much bigger Marvel fan.
SPEAKER_04And that's fair.
SPEAKER_02You get one or the other, and then there's combos. It's true. In a world where I'm so bi blank, this is where I pick a side. Okay.
SPEAKER_04And that's okay. I know it's not a perfect movie.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's what I was gonna say. It's not, but whatever. It was fun. I where I'm not like a big Star Wars fan, but I did grow up watching Star Wars.
SPEAKER_04Most of us did.
SPEAKER_02Right, because we're born in the 90s. Um I was really happy to be able to like sit in a movie theater like with my mom and see like the like iconic Star Wars and all of like the credit route.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I was like, oh, this is cool as fuck. It is cool. I liked it. Yeah, it's fun. I had a good time.
SPEAKER_04It is a good time.
SPEAKER_02I was it, you know. Um did I totally understand what was going on? No. Dude, are we the same level now?
SPEAKER_04Uh I think so, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Liar.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I'm just looking at the levels.
SPEAKER_02I'm just going off what I can hear in my head.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, now we're both looking at it.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02There's no way in hell.
SPEAKER_04But like, you see how the levels are the same?
SPEAKER_02I am I that loud.
SPEAKER_04You are a little loud. I always have to quiet.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
SPEAKER_04No, it's okay. Speak at whatever volume you're comfortable. I should just set the levels appropriately.
SPEAKER_02Filipino.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Um Star Wars The Last Jedi. It's not a perfect movie. Look, I didn't really love Luke milking the teat of some space cow. And I didn't really love the choreography in the throne room fight where the guys literally just run around in circles until it's their turn to fight them. Whatever. There's some really cool stuff in there.
SPEAKER_02There's some really cool stuff in there.
SPEAKER_04Like when I can't remember the character's name, but she shoots the ship at the other bad guy's ship in light speed, and it like all goes silent and it just goes. Like, that's pretty cool. Luke being a forest ghost from across the galaxy, that's pretty fun. The visuals of that movie are really awesome. The planet with like the red dusty sand is really cool looking at the end. I mean, there's there's some good stuff in there. There's some witty dialogue. There's some yeah, I don't know. I I like Leia in that film. I mean, yes. Rest in peace.
unknownI know.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you're sitting over there now.
SPEAKER_02Just uh get over it. Uh yeah. I also looked at them. I mean, I often look at the monitor to be like, what does this mean?
SPEAKER_04You're a little off the screen. Um I know you get comfy. Um, I don't know. I know people don't like it, but I enjoy it. I watched, I I bought that movie as soon as it came out on DVD after it was released. I still own it, obviously. Uh, and I watch it for fun sometimes. It's a good time, but a lot of people really don't like it. But then Rise of Skywalker came out, and everyone was like, okay, this one's even worse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, people just didn't like new things.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Or like, well, it was one of those things where like it it's uh it's hard to be like, oh, I I love this franchise and I wish there was more of it.
SPEAKER_04And then you think it's been 10 years and we're finally getting new ones.
SPEAKER_02And then you make more of it, and people are like, that's not what I wanted, and you're like Well It's kind of what happens when shows take too long to come out.
SPEAKER_04People come up with what they want to happen, and then it doesn't happen anymore.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then I mean at this point, I'm talking to you.
SPEAKER_04Also Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_02Shit happens.
SPEAKER_04It does. And people's expectations are just gonna be too high when something's that popular and it goes on for that long and you have to wait that long.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I mean, it it's also all right. Well I feel like people also want original stories, but then don't want to give the original story a chance. And so, like, because I remember knock this what is it? Um I think it was Strange World. I think there was either a a Disney or a Pixar film, and it was like that was an original story, and y'all didn't want to go see it because you were like, I don't know what this is. And you're like, You didn't want to try something new. Same with Elio. Yeah, it was also either a Disney or Pixar film.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know if you know not that long ago.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam watched it and he was like, I liked Elio, and I was like, that's great.
SPEAKER_04I have the second most lowest rated Pixar movie of all time.
unknownFuck.
SPEAKER_04Behind Lightyear, which by the way, I didn't think Lightyear was that bad. I don't know why people hate Lightyear so much.
SPEAKER_02Because it's gay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was a good movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I had a great time.
SPEAKER_04It was fun.
SPEAKER_02I had a good time.
SPEAKER_04Eight out of ten. Good time.
SPEAKER_02I don't remember it that well. I saw it once. I also I saw it once in theaters. And I I didn't like walk out being like, I hate that. I was just more like, that's cool that like, oh, like this is like the doll.
SPEAKER_04Fun different story.
SPEAKER_02Buzz is like designed after. That's cool. I thought that was cool. I like that.
SPEAKER_04Anyways, guilty pleasure.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, that's us.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You got one.
SPEAKER_02We're just good.
SPEAKER_04We're yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, um, here's the thing. So, and you watched me before cameras were rolling. That I was like looking because I was like, I don't know that I had a guilty pleasure movie. And then um, so I was looking at lists of other people's.
SPEAKER_04Right. That's called research.
SPEAKER_02Thanks. I was like, is there something that I'm forgetting right now that I can't think of? Um, that like, you know, could be considered a guilty pleasure and why is Eddie Murphy on in so many of these movies?
SPEAKER_04Haunted Mansion is a guilty pleasure. That was the one I was gonna say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It for me it's Haunted Mansion and uh Daddy Daycare. Daddy Daycare. Yeah, that I'm like, and I don't watch them like often, but like I do, I do enjoy those movies, especially like Haunted Mansion. That movie's fun. Pretty fucking good.
SPEAKER_04And when they they came out maybe for the age that it's starting.
SPEAKER_02I was like, this one I remember being a kid and I was like, I was fucking terrified, but I loved it. I had so this is where my horror started was Haunted Mansion. Um and this they remade that movie. And I was like, oh, this thing's gonna be scary as fuck. And it it it wasn't nearly as terrifying as it was the original one. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't like I wanted it to be scary.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, it's it's hard to make a scary movie that's also made for kids.
SPEAKER_02Well, the first one did it.
SPEAKER_04I know. But it's hard.
SPEAKER_02They had murder.
SPEAKER_04They did.
SPEAKER_02They had multiple murders, they did. They had the most terrifying spiders I'd ever seen.
SPEAKER_04Watch Lord of the Rings.
SPEAKER_02They had so that gigantic spider. They had so many skeletons. That's true. They had mummies. They had they had ghosts, they did, they had poison, they did, they had a lot of conflict.
SPEAKER_04All of the things.
SPEAKER_02They it was so good.
SPEAKER_04No arguments here.
SPEAKER_02I oh who is upset?
SPEAKER_04People.
SPEAKER_02Boo.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. It doesn't get any doesn't get a lot of praise.
SPEAKER_02It doesn't get enough, it doesn't get talked about enough.
SPEAKER_04No, it does not. But here we are talking about it.
SPEAKER_02Here we are, giving you your roses. Eddie. And then daddy daycare. I just thought, I don't know, dad. And I just had a good time. Nah, it's fine. I just had a good time. And like especially ridiculous. Yeah, and when I was a kid, I didn't like think about how like, oh yeah, like dads don't really take care. Dads don't really like take care of children. And I I in my head I was like, I don't know why. And then I'm gonna die. Get out of your water.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Uh so my next guilty pleasure movie is a little film, I believe it's from 2008, starring Hayden Christensen in not a Star Wars film. Oh. And that is the movie Jumper.
SPEAKER_02I've never heard of this movie. I've never even heard of it. I've never heard of this movie.
SPEAKER_04All right. Listen, I've said probably some things about Hayden Christensen off this podcast. I can't recall saying anything about him on this podcast. Do I think he's a phenomenal actor? No. However, this movie is fun. This movie, Jumper, I'll set the stage for you because you've never even heard of it.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, okay.
SPEAKER_04He has uh, and he learns this from a young age as a teenage boy, the ability to teleport. Uh, and he uh gets up to some mischief with that ability. He also falls in love with said ability by taking a girl on a date to the Sphinx, just as they're in New York, and he's like, hey, no, now we're in Egypt. And she's like, Whoa, oh, now we're in Paris. Okay, and now we're back. Fun times. And then, of course, because it's a movie, uh, there's someone that is not a fan of the teleporters, and uh that's Samuel L. Jackson, which is ironic because Mace Wind is chasing Anakin uh like three years after that movie.
SPEAKER_02Uh anyways, um That's a good cast, that's funny.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So but Samuel L. Jackson has bleach blonde hair in this, but like a buzz cut.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_04It's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Sounds like a fever dream.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Um and uh, you know, chaos ensues and they they they teleport all over the place, and uh I don't know why. I just found it amusing. I thought it was fun. If there was one if you were to, you know, ask me, like, oh, what would be one superpower if you could have one superpower? It's teleporting. For sure, it's teleporting.
SPEAKER_02You're not even gonna take flying for fun?
SPEAKER_04No. I just want to be in a plane. I like planes. I'd rather just commute to work. No thanks. All right, lunch break in Paris, okay.
SPEAKER_02Would it would it be nice to just be there instantly because flying still takes time? Yes, but flying is cool as fuck.
SPEAKER_04Oh, for sure. Invisibility is cool, telekinesis is cool, you know. I don't telepathy is cool too. I don't really want to be able to read people's minds. No. Because they'd be out there thinking some things that I don't think I want to know.
SPEAKER_02And at the same time, it'd be nice to be like, oh, you thought that? I'm gonna stay away from you.
SPEAKER_04100%. I just feel like I would end up having no friends because I'd realize all the horrible things they think about me that they don't say to my face.
SPEAKER_02Or you'll just get really good with grace.
SPEAKER_04Yep. Anyways, jumper. You should watch it. It's a good time. Maybe we'll watch it tonight. Anyways, guilty pleasures.
SPEAKER_02Um for movies?
SPEAKER_04Or whatever you got.
SPEAKER_02The one that I was like, I think I have talked about this before. I'm sure I have is Twilight.
SPEAKER_04I assumed that would be.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I'm like, I know they're like not great movies, but I have a good time.
SPEAKER_04It's a cult classic, more of a good movie. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's where I was like, I'm pretty sure we already talked about this. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, 100%. But yes, it's not a good movie that you enjoy.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04It is an objectively poorly made movie.
SPEAKER_02Especially the first one.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02So good.
SPEAKER_04Terrible writing.
SPEAKER_02So good.
SPEAKER_04Not the best acting.
SPEAKER_02Had so much fun. Really cheap effects. Really, really solid. I can't throw a baseball any other way.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_02I can't.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It like feels weird to not like kick my fucking leg in the air.
SPEAKER_04It's so bad.
SPEAKER_02So much fun.
SPEAKER_04As is my next film.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Lord in heaven.
SPEAKER_04It's a film starring Toby Maguire as Spider-Man in Spider-Man 3. That movie gets so much hate. Yes, that part specifically. And I think it's fun. I think it's fun. Oh, it's so good. It's fun. Are you kidding me? Why does that get so much hate? Sam Man's fun in there. Like, like, I what is so bad about that movie?
SPEAKER_02I don't think I've seen that movie since I was like six years old.
SPEAKER_04You got the Venom, OG venom.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy. You know? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I was just like, You got the new goblin, Harry's back. I mean, like, it's a good time.
SPEAKER_02Had a good time. What's wrong with that?
SPEAKER_04I mean, having a great two are better, but that doesn't mean that the third one's bad. You know? Like, I don't know why everyone hates it so much.
SPEAKER_02Also, You're saying third place needs a place?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. It's not like it's seventh place in a category of three, but that's how people treat it. I also want to say that about the Jurassic Park and Jurassic World movies, even though it's not on my list. I actually think those movies are all solid. The first one is obviously the best, but like the other two Jurassic Parks, like Lost World is really good, and three is fun, and the Jurassic World movies are a good time. Maybe that's just because I like dinosaurs. I don't know. But I'm a little bit of a nerd, you might say.
SPEAKER_02I like I have I've only seen the newer Jurassic Park movies.
SPEAKER_04You have not seen the original 1993 Steven Spielberg's masterpiece.
SPEAKER_02No, I haven't.
SPEAKER_04Well, I figured out what we're watching tonight.
SPEAKER_02Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_04I just watched it two weeks ago. Really? Well, yeah, on the plane. True Orlando.
SPEAKER_02Who I was talking to earlier, that they were like, yeah, Jurassic Park is both like my guilty pleasure and like my favorite movie.
SPEAKER_04It's a good movie. The craziest thing about that original Jurassic Park, the craziest thing to me, one, the effects kind of hold up to this day, which is crazy. 23 years ago. Also, Steven Spielberg made that movie and made Schindler's List at the same time.
SPEAKER_02Oh god.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know what?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Tangent. You know what special effects I'm like, absolutely I know, it's fine. These are way more entertaining.
SPEAKER_03It's true.
SPEAKER_02Um, what special effects I'm like that holds up to this day. Lord of the Rings. Pirates of the Caribbean.
SPEAKER_04I was about to say that one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04The OG pirates with the skeletons and stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yes, but the OG one and then. I was like Davy Jones' beard. He still looks good. So good.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if I've seen a CG character look better than that, even to this day.
SPEAKER_02When Calypso is like a giant, giant lady.
SPEAKER_04And she turns into the crabs.
SPEAKER_02Yes. And they were like, this is a bunch of things.
SPEAKER_04That's what happens. That's what happens when you let CG artists spend the time it takes to make good effects.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fuck AI.
SPEAKER_04Now, well that too. Now they just churn things out, and these artists have no time to really get this. They're like, nope, we gotta get the movie out, gotta get the movie out. They spent years on those effects. So good. Years.
SPEAKER_02It was so good, dude.
SPEAKER_04Smeagol in Lord of the Rings still looks phenomenal. From 1999 when they started making that movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You gotta make sure that lasts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And sure, some of the rendering has gotten better. Yes. Avatar looks awesome. But they spend years on Avatar. That's why it looks so good. If they only spent a year on Avatar, it would not look like that. I promise. Anyways. Solid. Another tangent over of it. Guilty Pleasures shows. You got any more movies? I do not have any more movies. I have that I can think of right now. One of them is probably my guilty pleasure, but not everyone else thinks that. Go for it. Oh, you want me to go again?
SPEAKER_02You're gonna see the rest of the movies before we go to shows.
SPEAKER_04I just don't have any shows. Um okay, so probably most people think that this is an objectively good movie. I don't like comedy movies very much. But the hangover is an exception. And I understand no one's ever making that movie today. That's never getting made.
SPEAKER_02That's not where I expected at all. Actually, I'm very wow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I think The Hangover's a good time.
SPEAKER_02Didn't you say that you've like never seen Stepbrothers all the way through?
SPEAKER_04That's true.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I wow, and you've seen The Hangover, and it's a guilty plus.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I've seen all three of the hangovers.
SPEAKER_02Damn!
SPEAKER_04But to be fair, I watched the second one. That's a completely different now.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say it every single time.
SPEAKER_04Listen, all of my friends in high school tried to get me to watch it, friends in college tried to get me to watch it.
SPEAKER_02I'm a friend from college.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but I wasn't talking about you. You didn't know that about this until about nine weeks ago. It's people have been trying to get me to watch that show for a long time. I'll continue to disappoint. Uh the hangover is really funny. And it's ridiculous. And it's incredibly offensive in the best late 2000s way. Jesus Christ. Uh what is that? Todd Phillips did that movie, right? It's the same guy that did the Joker. Yep. And then Lauren Scherz shot that. Yep. Yep. Same guy that shot the Joker. Good times. Good job, Todd. That's a good movie. It's ridiculous and stupid. But it's a good movie. Zach Galifanakis, man. I mean, you got Bradley Cooper in there. It's a good time. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. But I think it's funny. It's a pleasurable time that I feel guilty about.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04There you go.
SPEAKER_02Good. What's your last movie?
SPEAKER_04My last movie is a 2014 film starring Aaron Paul. It's called Need for Speed. You've seen that one? Well, you ever heard of the video games Need for Speed? I think so. Yeah, they're car games, and it's a car movie where they just race cars and it's a pretty poorly written movie. It's so cliche.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, I could see it was like a nine-year-old boy.
SPEAKER_04Try 16, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm seeing you right now as a nine-year-old boy.
SPEAKER_04That doesn't it's fair. That fits. Um, yeah, I like cars. Cars go vroom and they go real vrooming in this movie. Uh I don't know why it's so hated. It's actually a pretty solid racing movie. It's a pretty solid action movie. They filmed um, apparently they made like stock frames of cars, uh, a bunch of different cars to film the race sequences, and then they just put the body of whatever car it was supposed to be on top of it, like a like a 3D printed version, instead of actually like going and spending millions and millions of dollars and hundreds of millions on insurance for these crazy exotic cars. They just were like, we're gonna build basically go-karts with the frame of a car, and then put the body to make it look like you're driving you know, a Lamborghini or whatever. And then they could just strap cameras to it or do whatever they needed to do. Anyways, it there's some really fun car chases in there, there's some crazy stunts in there. It is it's it's it's a good time. Good job, Aaron Paul. And that's like one of the first things he did after breaking bad, actually.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, this was after breaking bad.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was 2014, so it would have been after breaking bad.
SPEAKER_02Solid.
SPEAKER_04Anyways, those are my uh guilty pleasure movies. Guilty pleasure shows.
SPEAKER_02Number one.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I don't feel like that's really all that bad of a enjoy rewatch it. It's pretty cheesy. I've seen it before. I never really enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_02Glee is a guilty pleasure, it is popular because it so is Twilight. Great singing, great singing, no doubt, absolutely phenomenal singing from from everyone in the cast, really. Yeah, I'm not saying like no one is a bad singer, yeah. Um and then and then there's like Amber Riley, where I'm like, you are phenomenal, yeah, you are outstuping.
SPEAKER_04Neil Patrick Harris guest on that show and sing Dream On and it's yeah, and it's really good.
SPEAKER_02They hit the notes, they're real, it's really good.
SPEAKER_04Um Neil Patrick Harris is so talented.
SPEAKER_01He's so good. What a dad. Yes, what a sweetheart.
SPEAKER_04Still can't believe I ran into him at the airport.
SPEAKER_02Chris Colfer, I uh I hope you showed up every bitch that ever said that you can't do it because that man beautiful singing. Absolutely love it. And you know Leah Michelle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You can't not mention Leah Michelle.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Leah Michelle.
SPEAKER_04She she does have a voice.
SPEAKER_02She does sing. She can sing. Oh, she can. I don't know if she can read, but she can sing. I that is the funniest thing on the internet to me. We're like, have you seen that before?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I am well aware of what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I don't know what you I don't know what's on your FYP.
SPEAKER_04The ex was very into uh Leah Michelle back in the day. My ex-girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_04Massively into Leah Michelle.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I and Glee. In my head, I was like, I know that she loves Kelly Clarkson.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that too. More more Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obsessed with Leah Michelle back in the day.
SPEAKER_02That's really funny.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love it.
SPEAKER_04Anyways. Right. Glee is a show.
SPEAKER_02Is a show.
SPEAKER_04You know. Um, yeah, not really my cup of tea, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I always even like I always loved it growing up. I'd always get really like excited. I really recorded it all.
SPEAKER_04My family all watched it every week, every week, like including my dad and mom. Like they all watched Glee. That when I'm going to bed now.
SPEAKER_02When I like need to cry, um, I watched I watched the memorial episode. I'm happy. For for many the the glee curse is a phenomenon. I cannot wrap my head around. It's kind of yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand. Um Beyond Glee. It's I I it it it I can't Riverdale. Oh god. I don't know where it went. I don't know where the plot had gone, but I did watch it I think until like season four.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's pretty deep.
SPEAKER_02It was I had to know where this was going.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, because I was like, yeah, like the Yeah, I did. The first season made sense. The second season was kind of making sense. The third season was kind of losing me, but we were getting gay and I was into that. And then we hit the fourth season, and I was like, ah okay. And then I uh I I just kinda it just didn't come back for more it phased out after that, but hey, that happens, it's okay. It gave us Lily Reinhardt, and I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. There's a like recently, I I I don't know like what interview she did. I saw it like on Instagram as like a post that she said um that she was like, I would never talk shit on what got me to where I am now. And she was talking about forbidden fruits, and forbidden fruit she fucking ate down.
SPEAKER_04So ah there you go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was great. That was giving Cheryl Cheryl Blossom for sure.
SPEAKER_04Um Forbidden Fruits just keeps coming up on this show.
SPEAKER_02Only like twice. Relax. Relax. It's only because we did that entire cult classic episode that you've heard it a lot. Yes, we did.
SPEAKER_04Because I had to. Can't escape the fruits.
SPEAKER_02No, we can't. It's forbidden. And you ate it, and now I'm this.
SPEAKER_04Here we are.
SPEAKER_02Here we are. Here we are. I'm now a different person. You know, you've gotten fruits.
SPEAKER_04Your referencing of Riverdale did make me think of a show that I watched way too many seasons of, considering myself.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Uh One Tree Hill.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I've never seen.
SPEAKER_04You know what it is, though, right?
SPEAKER_02I think so.
SPEAKER_04Michael Murray. It's like a 2000s like high school drama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but they play basketball in the first season, so that's why I started watching.
SPEAKER_00That's why you watched it.
SPEAKER_04And one of the girls I had a crush on in high school loved it, so I watched it for.
SPEAKER_02And you that's all it's nice. Kept watching it. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I watched like five or six seasons of it, though. There's a lot of seasons of that show. I don't remember how many. It kept going. Oh my god. I don't I wouldn't call that a guilty pleasure because I only saw it the one time and I don't know if I enjoyed it, but I kept watching it. And then my little sister Sydney is big into that show. Definitely guilty pleasure for her. She has like merch from that show. Anyways, uh, you got any more? Or shall we move on to what we've watched?
SPEAKER_02I was like, I'm I'm sure that there is more. Those are the ones that I thought of first for like guilty pleasure shows.
SPEAKER_04Fair enough. Alright. Uh, what have you watched since we last talked into microphones?
SPEAKER_02Um, I watched, I don't know if I said this last week. I'll let you know. Thanks. Did I say that I watched all of ExoKitty or that I was going to?
SPEAKER_04You said you were going to.
SPEAKER_02I've watched all of ExoKitty. I was. I I had a good time. Um uh I I think that this is gonna be the last season of it.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um, and uh it was a good way to wrap it all up, and then I started watching Invincible and then Also what you said you were gonna watch. Yes, I started watching it, and then um when I went to go watch X OKD, which on Netflix, I saw um a promo for something very bad is going to happen. Okay, and somebody on set told me to watch that, and I was like, oh, I I I remember seeing like a trailer for it, like like a YouTube ad trailer for it, and I was like, that's cool, I'll check that out later. I thought that it was a movie, I was wrong, it's a series on Netflix, and so I was like, Yeah. And so I was watching a little bit of Invincible, and then um I remember like I like went to work, came home, and just out of habit, like put on Netflix first and was like, oh, something very bad is going to happen.
SPEAKER_04Fuck something very bad.
SPEAKER_02Something really bad is happening. I'm not I'm on episode five right now out of eight episodes.
SPEAKER_01Things are happening.
SPEAKER_02Things are happening. Oh my god, fuck. It's I'm having a great time. And it's like I I was texting my friend Juju about this. That I was like, I I have to see this through. I know that there are other things that I'm like, for at least like conversation with like all of like my my content creator friends for like who do like content for for movies and TVs that like with conversations with them, or like I like went over to my friend Dom's house and she was like, I have to watch the new episode of the boys, and I was like, I haven't caught up yet.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, you that was the other thing you were gonna watch.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I haven't caught up yet. They're like, okay, I'm gonna stay up until midnight and then watch the show and react to it. And I was like, okay, I'm going to bed. Um but I was like, I can't talk to her about it because I haven't seen it yet. So I was like, I should be watching these shows for at least conversation with them. Right. I have to know what's going on with something very bad is going to happen. And I think that you'll really like it. Okay. And it's also like, uh, I don't I don't know how much more she will come back into. Yes. Okay. I don't know how much more she will come back into it. But as I was watching it, I was like, God, I love haunting it Hill House.
SPEAKER_04What's the what's the premise?
SPEAKER_02Hold on.
SPEAKER_04Okay, sorry.
SPEAKER_00This is exactly where Victoria Peretti needs to be. And then you get to like episode four, I think it is, and you're like, oh my god, she's the mom.
SPEAKER_04Spoilers.
SPEAKER_02A little bit, but like not too much.
SPEAKER_00Or I was like, you're perfect. Yes, this is I knew it. I knew you had to be in this project because it's so meant for you, babe.
SPEAKER_04What's the premise?
SPEAKER_02The premise of the show is that um there is a couple, Nikki and Rachel, and they are getting married. Um, Rachel doesn't really have any family, and so um their wedding was just gonna be Nikki's family. Yeah. And they're they're driving to, she's never met his family. They're driving to his cabin, um, family cabin.
SPEAKER_04It's giving get out.
SPEAKER_02A little bit of get out, a little bit of ready or not.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um, and um the family is just fucking off. And the the acting for being fucking psychotic, phenomenal, like naturally psychotic, like somewhere where like they are not aware, like the character is not aware of how fucking crazy they actually come off. Or like it is so off-putting because it's so like pure and genuine, they believe it. Like, it's fucking good. Um, right. I mean, and so yeah, that's that's kind of it. And there's a family curse, and you love it. That's as much as you get with no spoiler.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I'll have to watch.
SPEAKER_02Really good. I think you'll really enjoy.
SPEAKER_04While you were talking about that, it made me think about our boy Mike Flanagan.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I was like, what is that man up to?
SPEAKER_02What is he up to? It's been a minute. Is he did he make it up?
SPEAKER_04Do you know what he's doing?
SPEAKER_02Did he make it? Did he make it? Did he make it?
SPEAKER_04Did he make what?
SPEAKER_02I didn't look up who made something very better.
SPEAKER_04He's currently working on an adaptation of Carrie. Eight episode series expected.
SPEAKER_02Oh, a series! That's gonna be fucking good.
SPEAKER_04Amazon. Oh, it's on Amazon. He's amazing.
SPEAKER_02That means that's gonna have a really big gore budget.
SPEAKER_04Interesting. Oh, he's also working on the mist. Oh my gosh. And he's also also working on an Exorcist reboot.
SPEAKER_02Okay, Mike.
SPEAKER_04I'm I in Mike We Trust.
SPEAKER_02That's so true, we do.
SPEAKER_04Honestly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but he hasn't missed really yet. Leaving Netflix.
SPEAKER_04Leaving Netflix for Amazon. Amazon do have a lot of money. So does Netflix though.
SPEAKER_02But the gore budget on Amazon is high. It's high. It's high. It's high.
SPEAKER_04Carrie needs a little gore, so that's that's gonna be good.
SPEAKER_02Because I was thinking, I was like, okay, like another Carrie movie. I was like, okay, that'll be cool, that'll be fun. A series.
SPEAKER_04That's good. Take your time, Mike. That's good. You know, he edits all his own stuff.
SPEAKER_02Love him.
SPEAKER_04Mike.
SPEAKER_02Another directory.
SPEAKER_04Let's work together, but I'm a director and editor, so you kind of got that covered.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, some people play there. Sometimes you could have two people playing the piano.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure. One's a ghost. Um, when it's Mike.
SPEAKER_02I was like, no, have you never seen someone do that? Have you seen how white I am?
SPEAKER_04Walked into that one. Anyways, that's it for this week, I believe. You didn't say what you watched. Oh, yeah. It's not it for this week. I watched a Netflix film that came out last year starring uh Russell Crowe and Rami Malik. Uh Nuremberg. It's uh World War II courtroom drama about the uh Nuremberg trials. If you don't know what that is, it's the trials of the Nazi war criminals after World War II. So uh Russell Crowe. I don't know how his name um uh what the heck is his name? Hermann Gring, which is the second to Hitler. Um and he's he's pretty damn good in it. And Remy Malik plays uh a real character who's a psychiatrist that was uh spent time with all the Nazis, like trying to analyze them and psychoanalyze them um as they were in prison awaiting the trial, and then the setting up of the trial, and the actual trial itself, and then there was some pretty horrific uh you know concentration camp footage in the trials that was unpleasant to watch, but that was kind of the point. Um there's some there's some good acting from Remy Malik and Russell Crowe in there. Their dynamic is by far the best. I would say the writing is pretty poor, and it definitely feels like a Netflix um trying to spoon feed you the plot, uh constantly reminding us of Exposition, which is my newest pet peeve when it comes to making movies, because they're making uh scripts for people that they know are gonna be on their phones half the time while watching films, so they have to continually restate the plot. But when you ignore that, uh the rest of it was pretty well done. Uh some good action sequences, well, action, some good tense moments, some fun cat and mouse, some I I like a little uh courtroom drama. Um and yeah, it was it was well done overall. I'd say like seven and a seven, seven and a half out of ten.
SPEAKER_01Solid.
SPEAKER_04Solid watch. Probably won't watch it again anytime soon, but you never know. I'll give her a look-see. I have thought about it since finishing it, which is a good sign usually. Yeah. If I just totally forget about a movie after I finish watching it, probably not a good sign.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I did, I was like, oh, you know, that scene was good, you know. There was some Remy Malik's eyes, they like when he gets angry in his scenes, like his he's got very powerful eyes, so and he knows what to do with them.
SPEAKER_02So that was sexual.
SPEAKER_04Wasn't meant to be, but sure it was. Anyways.
SPEAKER_01Kinky. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And Russell Crowe plays a convincing, um uh terrible person.
SPEAKER_02Nice.
SPEAKER_04Apparently he wasn't very fun on set either, uh, in that role. He was going a little method of.
SPEAKER_02I was like, you see, like method acting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I guess.
SPEAKER_04A little method, but I don't know that for sure. But that's what I read while I was looking up the film. Yeah. Anyways, um we're filming this on a Sunday afternoon, so there's no euphoria talk on this week's episode. We will be watching it tonight tonight together.
SPEAKER_02So when you're like, we're watching Jumpers tonight, and I was like, no, we're not.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, we're gonna get back and have like five hours to kill, so we could watch something. Jurassic Park will probably be what we watch, though. Um anyways, uh yeah, so you'll get probably two Euphoria episodes next episode that we'll probably review. Because it'll be this week and next week's episode, if I had to guess. This will be coming out, unless we record next weekend. I don't know, we'll see.
SPEAKER_02We'll see, we'll find out.
SPEAKER_04We'll definitely get at least tonight's episode reviewed on the next podcast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Apologies if you were looking forward to that. Um, anyways, I think that's it as far as what I got to talk about. We good? All right, you know where to find us, shot on film podcast on YouTube and Apple Podcasts. Keep downloading and uh give us a subscription or a like if you're watching the content. That helps us know there's other human beings out there that we're making this for, other than just ourselves, but we're gonna keep making it even for ourselves.
SPEAKER_02So that's it.
SPEAKER_04We'll see you next time.
SPEAKER_02That's a wrap.