Episode #12 - Movies That Never Needed Sequels

On this week's episode we discuss some films that should have never had sequels made for them.

Transcript

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Cheers.

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Cheers. Welcome to the Shot On Film Podcast. Every fucking time. I need a napkin.

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Yeah, but um well.

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It's fine.

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Use the couch.

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Ew. My God. Hey guys. It's good to see you.

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Hello.

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Oh my god.

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Um, we're back on the on the one camera because we're busy. Time.

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Yep. Time editing. We're squeezing things in. You'll hear about it soon, I promise.

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Yeah. There's a few things going on. Um, oh. I should show you the music video when we're done here.

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Oh shit. Oh, fast!

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I did it the first day. Nice. It was well cut one. Cut one.

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This is not staying up.

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Okay, well, you know.

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I'm gonna hold it.

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Sorry. I uh was finishing research just now.

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Ah. I want to preface this with I don't want beef with anybody, please.

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We should preface most episodes with that.

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We should. Um sorry, I just took two shots of of of double shots? Are those knots?

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They're shot glasses.

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That's a shot and a half. You can't tell me that that's a knot. It's a two-ounce shot glass. Does that mean two?

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Usually a shot is two ounces, I'm pretty sure.

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There's no fucking way.

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Okay.

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Look at them.

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How big is a normal sized shot?

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It's gonna be like one point something.

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Of course.

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I'm saying one point five.

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One point five is the typical. Interesting.

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Okay, so just a little bit more than a shot. So I've I've had two and a half shot now. High five.

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Uh we don't want any beef.

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Yes. Um need to preface preface this with we don't want any beef. And um it's not that these were all like bad movies. It's and and we appreciate all of the hard work and love that went into making them, and I'm I hope that they were fucking fun. Here's my fucking problem. Um, is that yeah, I I think it's smart to only, you know, not only, but I think it's smart to like talk about the things that you love and like not always shit on the things that you hate. Um but if you don't say if you only say things that you like and you don't say things that you don't like. Where am I going with this? Anyways, um it's not to say that these movies are bad. It's to say that the original movie was really good and did it need a sequel. That's up for debate.

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And that's why we're talking about it.

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And so we're here. Uh we do still want to work with these people. We do still think that the work is incredible.

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You're about to say some fun things, aren't you? No. Like, I'm so curious what's on your list that's got you saying this.

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You know, it's just kind of a preface for it.

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Alright, alright, all right. Fair enough.

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Um do still want to work with these people. Was the sequel necessary? This is what we're here to talk about. Because I don't need to talk about favorite things all the fucking time. Anyways, going on. Um, yeah.

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I have one.

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Go for it.

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So there's a movie that I really liked in college, um, and I watched it a number of times. Um because of its uh well, fantastic directing and pacing and horror elements while being a uh movie from the 70s that has effects that definitely don't stand up uh nowadays. Um and that movie is a little Steven Spielberg film called Jaws. Um the thing is Jaws is fun. I I like Jaws. The other ones did not need to be made.

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I would love to add to that. But I have not seen any Jaws movie.

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Not even the original? No. Aww. Jaws is good.

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I know, I know, I know it's something I should watch.

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Jaws is really fun.

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It just it's always on the list of movies you should watch, and you keep it.

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And you should watch it.

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And the thing just keeps going, and I have I love you, Steven. I'm so sorry. I just don't have interest in sharks. I'm sorry. I was a shark in high school, that was my mascot, and I've never seen Jaws. I'm sorry.

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Go on. Okay, then I have nothing else to say about Jaws.

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I just bad about that because I was like, I just hadn't, I don't know if there was anything else to say about Jaws, and that I would add to it, but I haven't seen the movie yet.

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So there's a mosquito in here.

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Maybe I'll fight you later and say that the sequel was completely fucking necessary. Um Toy Story did not need to be.

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After I just said two weeks ago Toy Story 2 is top five Pixar film.

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Sure, we could have stopped at three. I think we could have stopped, we could have stopped at two. We could have stopped at one, but like we could have stopped at one, we could have stopped at two, three is really good. The end of it.

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You know, you almost died at the end. It should have just been the end.

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I don't know if I wanted them to die. I'm okay with them being in a daycare. Like the being them being in a daycare makes the most sense. And then being like, what happened to Bo Peep, bitch. Ah. And now we're having a fifth, and it's bringing in Woody Balding, which is How's that even happen? I don't know, but it's kind of funny. Because you know wear and tear on toys. Um but a tablet being the enemy, and like I guess it'll have like good commentary, but it just feels like Boo. And I feel like then we're gonna get like Toy Story 7, and I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.

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I think give it a few years. It's coming. You just know it's coming. They can't help themselves.

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Uh at what point does Toy Story just turn into Wreck It Ralph?

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Wreck It Ralph is the arcade Toy Story.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You think they'll just merge and they'll be like, now we're done.

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Like a Justice League movie or an Avengers movie of combining Pixar characters into one? Uh I'm sure there's been meetings about it. Really hard.

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We're out here like leaking shit on accident.

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Jeez. Jeez. I don't want to be a part of those meetings, let me just say.

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Oh, Lord in heaven.

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You know what another movie didn't need any sequels?

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Huh.

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The Matrix.

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There's more than one.

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There's four.

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Why the fuck is there four?

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That's a great question.

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What do you do? What do you do? What do you keep doing? Also, um, I watched only the first one, obviously. I didn't know that there were others. Um sorry. I'm sorry. The world of movies is huge.

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It's so large. But I have been shrinking it recently.

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Have you?

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm chewing far away for you.

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That's good. Your mic is very sensitive.

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I was like, is it nothing at all? Because I feel like I can still hear it, but also I'm the one chewing, so I don't know.

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It's definitely gonna get picked up a little bit, um, but it's okay. Well, it's that kind of podcast now. Okay, so uh for yeah, The Matrix. Um, yeah, uh the first movie is great.

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I said that it was like spy kids with a really high budget.

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Works for me.

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I will never forget all of the fucking baby tube things that scared the fuck out of me. That's where I was like, what the fuck is going on?

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It's a good time.

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I lost my shit. Oh, energy sources.

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To a computer.

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I I literally was like, what what? That's when I lost the plot.

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But the other Matrix movies. Um, they just try to do like it's just not gonna be the same. You can there's some sequels, which we could do this next week. Sequels that are better than the originals, to just do like the polar opposite out of to even it out. Because I'm like, there it's not like sequels never work. There are some sequels that are fantastic, but a lot of times it just it always ends up coming back to just like uh are we just trying to get more money? Yep, that's okay, that's what we're doing. All right, because it works.

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Guarantee make money, which is kind of annoying.

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It's a business at the end of the day.

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Because it's like people want to go see an IP that they know, which like I I get it, but like we need to stop looking at movies like we're cooking. Because I know that like when I'm learning a new recipe, I get kind of stressed because if I either like fuck up while I'm cooking or if I just don't like the end result, I feel like I wasted my money. So it's like I should have just like bought things that I know that I like so that I wouldn't have one wasted money and two still been hungry at the end of the night. We need to stop doing that same kind of principle with movies. You know what I mean?

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It's true. Yeah, I saw movies are not McDonald's.

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Ew, fuck McDonald's.

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I'm just saying.

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Fuck McDonald's.

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Movies are not McDonald's, and we shouldn't treat them as though they are a fast food restaurant.

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Ew.

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Yeah.

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Pick a different one.

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Burger King. I don't know. Yeah. I know. That was the point.

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Yeah.

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Do you have another film you'd like to do?

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Soji's kind of hitting right now.

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Yeah, I figured. That's why all the noises.

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Oh no. Oh, I don't think that we needed a second hangover. I'm sorry. I don't know if that was necessary. I feel like it being like I don't think the drop in quality is terribly far away. It's not, I don't even here's the thing. It's been so long since I've seen these movies. Um do I really remember them all that much? The second one almost ah, I'm pulling at straws.

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But like isn't it the one in uh is it Vietnam?

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But the first one I remember a lot.

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Well, yeah. The first one's iconic.

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Thank you. And I think that we should have just left it untouched.

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Yeah.

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I don't remember much of like there is a second Step Brothers, no?

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You're asking the wrong guy.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Damn, you're right. You never even finished the first one. I can s I can almost guarantee that there's a second Step Brothers movie. And it's just like with comedy movies like that, I feel like maybe we should have just left them at the one that they are.

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Yes. A million times, yes. And to jump off of the the Hangover, uh uh I have another film that popped into my mind while we were talking. Uh Joker, a different Todd Phillips film. We did not need a second one of those, especially in hindsight.

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I don't know what I wanted the second one to be.

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But the first one was so good.

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But the second the first one was so good. Uh I love the idea of Lady Gaga being Harley Quinn.

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I think it works in theory.

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I think it really fucking works. The execution of it.

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Which I didn't feel like was Gaga's fault, by the way.

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No, and I don't think that's Gaga's fault. I don't think that's Joaquin's fault either. No. Um.

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No.

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My ex's middle name is Joaquin. That's all I think about every time.

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Ah. Mr. Phoenix.

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Uh oh, oh, the different lifetimes.

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Any more from you?

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Um? Yeah, I don't, and this is I want to say this with being that this is my favorite Disney princess movie. And it has been for so long. I don't think we needed more Aladdin movies. I think that Aladdin was perfect on its own, and the sequels. There's three.

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Now you got me.

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There's three, and I think that they went straight to VHS.

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And like I don't think I've ever seen either of them.

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It's it's Aladdin and Jasmine's wedding, and like, um I think one of those called, I'm gonna do this without looking it up, and everyone can hate me later. Um Fuck it. I the the king of thieves, and that's his that's Aladdin's dad, and like his dad comes back.

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Oh, I'm vaguely remembering this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's one where like uh Jafar's return. I don't remember which one is two and which one is three, but I do remember these being titles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Where it's kind of like, you know, like the Emperor's New Groove? Next week, when we talk about a sequel that is worth it, is worth it. But in Nakosus Muddy Offset, they have the TV show.

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Yeah.

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It it kind of felt like that, like episodes of like those TV shows. Or like Lilo and Stitch also got like a TV show after their sequels.

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I'm fine with that. TV shows as their sequels.

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You know, when I was a kid, I'd rather than do that. I really like those shows when I was a kid.

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I'd rather do that because it's like if I really would love this universe and I want to sign up for more content, then I want more content, and TV is a good way to do that. But like to ruin the experience of the movies with another sequel.

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Or a live action?

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Or a live action remake of an animated film.

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Uh all along the same note, um, The Little Mermaid 2.

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Hmm. Where I think Disney's been doing this for a long time.

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Disney does this. It's hard. I wanted to name other movies that weren't Disney, and I did. Um, but my first initial thought when we were texting about what do we talk about today, my first when I was like, maybe things that didn't need to be sequels, my first thought was was Disney. Um they own so much of my movie library knowledge. And like I'm I'm happy to see a princess like have a daughter. She's the only princess with a daughter, um, which is cool. But I think the best thing we got out of that movie is literally the song in the beginning of the movie, and then the rest of the movie is just kind of like a TV the TV vibe, the TV episode vibe.

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We don't like that.

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But the song is great.

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Do you have another film to talk about?

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Nope!

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You're done?

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Yeah, you go.

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I only have one more. Jurassic Park did not need uh extra films. And um though I don't mind the other ones. No. Don't do it.

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Okay.

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Stop now.

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I um I will watch Justice Smith in any project that they're in. Um not a uh I don't how many Jurassic Park movies have there been?

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There was three parks and three worlds, four worlds.

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Are we gonna count that as a separate franchise or just all together? Oh, it's all together. Okay.

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The Jurassic franchise. The Jurassic extended universe.

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So that's like six movies?

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Six or seven, I can't remember, yeah. Just a couple.

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I I get I get the money, but like No, I did if you want to talk financial, like obviously. Okay, but I really liked watching Jonathan Bailey. I love Jonathan Bailey's character in Jurassic World, that last movie. That was great. That was adorable. Did we need it? I don't know.

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All those talented people could have been making something else.

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I don't know if we needed it. But I had a good time.

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Could have been.

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Which is kind of what this this entire episode is. I don't know if we needed it.

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No.

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But I had a good time. Except for them Little Mermaid 2.

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Yeah.

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I had eh, it was uh it was alright. It was alright.

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Really, um Neil Patrick Harris is in that movie.

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Do I and you don't like it?

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Oh, but like super random cameo, you know.

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You like Neil Patrick Harris.

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I do, and I like Keanu Reeves.

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Damn.

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Damn.

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That is not we all spam calls, love it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So what have you been watching since the last time we recorded into microphones?

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Um, I just watched, um, I didn't realize it was a miniseries, but I'm okay with it being a miniseries. I watched uh Lord of the Flies. So good. I feel like I did talk about this before on here.

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Briefly.

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Yeah, I did. Okay, just making sure. Um oh, it was so good. It was so good. And to be like, oh my god, those exact lines. I have the script. I have the script right behind me on my shelf. Ah, there's there, um, I know that they said that they're just um I don't uh sorry. The actual content and my friend's content is mixing together. But um, I don't know if they said that these were the four main. Because in my head, I'm like, Roger is also a main character. Maybe not as main as Jack, Ralph, and Piggy. Simon is a very pivotal point, but I feel like Roger's definitely like up there. Just slightly, just like above Maurice, Sam, Eric. You know, I I know that you didn't watch it. I know that you didn't see it yet.

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I'm just here.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

I know. But um, it's it's split into four episodes. Um, Piggy, Jack, Simon, and then Ralph. Okay.

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So just different POVs. Or just like different storylines.

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I think it they they they just like they focus on that boy mainly and like how people are perceived from their point of view. Um, a little bit more prevalently, but like, like you see, like, okay, I guess it's mini spoiler, but not mini spoiler. This book you should have read in ninth grade. Um if you're from California, I think that the standard is ninth grade. Um, if not definitely senior year. Um, so the first episode is with Piggy. Um, and like Jack acts and is portrayed like very mean bully type.

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Okay.

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And then you get to, because that's j that's just how he sees him. Um, and then you see you get to Jack's episode, and he has like a little bit of a more like softer side, and a little more like there's like reason to his being upset, I guess.

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Okay.

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And so it a little bit of that.

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So it's like different.

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That's why how it's like split. It's like not like so focused on them, but like kind of how they see each other. Different performances kind of yeah, and even just like the way that the story is, like as a whole, going from this child to the next, is it's it flows really nicely. Um, really, really good. Really took took me back, made me want to cry, be like, uh, my heart. We love that little in.

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We love that.

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And where I'm like, oh my god, even just like the smallest, the smallest lines where I'm like, I remember like doing that in college and being like, that's a kind of weird thing. Not a weird thing to say. But just like the way that it was like Like okay, so like in the the very end of the the show, the series, the play, all of the above, um the there's this this British Navy man soldier that finds the boys and is like, We saw your smoke, you see, we saw you spoke. And I thought that that was like a weird way to word that. But you heard it again, or be like, You're all British boys, aren't you? You're all British, aren't you? So I don't know, I don't know. I thought it was like I I it was to say it like twice in the way that you said it, and I don't know, it didn't always like sit naturally to me. That's just me. That's just I wouldn't have said it like that naturally, but that's okay, that's why we play characters. Um true. But hearing it in the show, I was like, ah you two? Ah do it again. That's how you guys do the chant. You know what? I take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great. I had a great time. I think the kids did a phenomenal fucking job. Okay. Um, I know that it's so hard to film with children and like the legal time restrictions. So I think that they did a fucking phenomenal job. And like I would watch it again, truly.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

All right. Maybe I'll have to give it a watch.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

It's only four hours. Four hours are your time.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Well, you got me watching some other six hours. I have tell him, tell him, tell him. So I watched the first episode of Heated Rivalry.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Yeah.

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More to come.

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Um, yeah.

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We'll see. Um yeah, it's good, I guess. Uh hard to say, it's not like, oh my god, this is the greatest pilot I've ever seen, but like it's good. That's fair. I can see where we're going here.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

I take that.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

You know. Not not too shabs. Um, the camera work is really good. Um, I like the editing. I don't love the pace overall. I think I mentioned this to you, just like it jumps time a ton, which you said it takes place over like seven years. That's a lot. Um, but I mean, like, I get it, because it's like they're just athletes on their own team, so there's like plenty of time spent apart and all that, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, fair enough. Um, it's just kind of like okay, it's very segmented, I guess. Um, which is fine. Um, but there's good chemistry, there's good tension, there's good dialogue, there's good acting, there's good camera work, you know, there's good stuff in there, there's good things. And we'll uh we'll see what happens. I take it for the next five episodes.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Did you like the water bottle scene?

SPEAKER_02 24:52

The water bottle scene. Yes, that that's part of the uh camera work that I'm mentioning. And I like the um I saw that water bottle.

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When I was like texting my cousin while I was watching this, because she watched it first and she was like, You need to see this, and I was like, You're now like the third person that told me I have to watch this, so I will. I I remember like I got to like the water bottle scene immediately. I was like, this is the gayest show I've ever seen in my life. Yes. They haven't even kissed yet, haven't done anything yet, and I was like, that was gay. Is this challengers? That was gay.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Could be.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Loved it.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Might be.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

I'm okay with that. Give me more. Same everything, but six more. You know what I mean? Are we gonna talk about euphoria and Sam Levinson's bullshit with yeah, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Go on, that's where I was going next.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Why? Why? So I saw somebody, somebody posted. Do you remember in season two when Dominic Feck sang for like 10 minutes?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

And then and then this montage with Cassie doing OnlyFans was also like unnecessarily long.

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It was so long.

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Yeah. They were like same font, different story. I was like, yeah.

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It was painful. I was like, oh, we're still going. Oh, we're still going.

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We're still going.

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Oh, Adam was like still going.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Adam said he was like, You've heard, I think he said he tweeted, he was like, You've heard of torture porn. Now there's now there's porn torture.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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I kind of felt that. Uh just a lot. Oh my god, it was a lot. And the for what? The giant size thing. Uh why?

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Why?

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Why?

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Why?

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And then the ending of that, I mean.

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Tits. We get it. You have them.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Yeah. Why?

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Why?

SPEAKER_02 26:57

So many questions. I was like, can I get can can we please see the euphoria title screen? So this will be over. Like, I'm just waiting. Because honestly, the rest of the episode wasn't horrible, but that opening was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

No, I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Uh Nate, Nate's toes and fingers could stop being lopped off. I'd be okay with it.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Now I'm literally like, oh, please no.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

But he's also so cringy.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

Someone reminded me. I don't remember who, and I'm so sorry. Um, I want to say it was Adam and Dom. Where the fuck is Nate Jacobs with a gun? That man was not above gun violence. Not at all.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

He used a gun in season one.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah, where the fuck is that, Nate? Where like the whole time that this man who's coming to come to collect his money, and Nate is running through the house trying to look for a place to hide. Where's the gun?

SPEAKER_02 27:55

None of it makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

You've never thought to shot this man down.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

I I don't get it. I don't get it at all.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Huh? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

None of it makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

I don't know. I don't know. I my poor girl Lexi.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Poor girl Lexi.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

She's got so much brain.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

She has maybe the only one with like any bit of normalcy.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

And she's just watching it crumble in front of her.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

It's an unfortunate thing to be an audience.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

God damn it, Cassie.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Maddie, Maddie's saving Rue's life at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

She is. And I think that Rue's gonna be very thankful of that very soon.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

I don't think that Rue's dead.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

No.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

This is also scary to be like, I don't want to give spoilers, but like if yeah, if you're watching this, maybe you know.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Um like if you haven't seen the episode, uh bye, that's the only thing we're talking about, and that's the end. Uh, but if if you have, we're gonna spoil things now. So there you go.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

I don't think that she's dead because of like them showing um Alamo not stabbing that other guy, like just missing. I think that Rue's gonna be the same way with the but knuckles just the fucking because I thought when they would like dig, I thought that she was literally digging her grave. And then they were like, just to your throat, and I was like not all the way. That's not deep enough.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Deeper.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Right. And then um he came out with the fucking golf club. Is that what it was?

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Uh is it?

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Because it wasn't like a golf club, but oh, maybe it was like that.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

It's what's that sport called? It's not cricket, is it? It's it's the one with the horses, but it's cricket. But it's not cricket, it's croquet.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Croquet's not on horses.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

But it's the same um it's the croquet on horses, whatever it's called. I can't remember what it's called.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Is that cricket? Are we doing it?

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Isn't cricket the like with the paddle, it's like the baseball almost cricket.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Oh yeah, that's different.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

We're just wrong.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Maybe you can just put that was I'm sure people know are really mad at us, and yep, that's fair. I would be too. But we don't know. Ignorance is bliss. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

I wouldn't call this bliss, I just feel it's fine. I just don't know what the name is and what's not looking at it.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

I don't think she's dead. Like, there's three episodes left. You're not killing it.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah, no, but I do think that she could be dead by the end of it. Because what I also want to point out is that like I'm not gonna say all of it because it could be like there's like a little percent chance that I'm wrong, but all of her narrations, it's just that I wouldn't do that. Anyways, most of her narrations are in past tense.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

True.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

So it's like, are you telling these stories from the grave? Are you telling this from your death?

SPEAKER_02 30:57

We'll find out in a few weeks.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

We'll find out at the end.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Um This is the end, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Interesting. Um, here's the other thing that I think Dom pointed out is that like, even though Zendayo's contract is up, that like um I don't know if it was like HBO showing like their, like, you know how like Marvel would be like, this is our lineup for the year, or like for the next five years.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

That HBO did the same, and it shows like hacks, series finale, euphoria, season finale.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be over.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

You don't think that those was I thought I was fully like this is the end.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

It should be the end, but they're gonna try to scrounge together more of them. You just know. You just know. This is the what was this episode about?

SPEAKER_00 31:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Please don't do any more.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

So maybe Rue does die at the end of this.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Well then if she's dead, then I don't care. I mean, I love Maddie and Lexi, I feel bad for, and Jules is awesome, but like without Rue, this show is not gonna continue.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

It's like um Nekos' Gray's Anatomy when Sandro is like, listen, when when she wants to stop acting, when I no longer have a Meredith Gray, I'll stop. Yeah, I don't know if that was true or not. I haven't stepped into Gray's Anatomy in a second, but I do remember that being said.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Fair enough. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

I don't know. I don't know, dude.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

I don't like that future. Jimmy, stop. I also we'll see what happens, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Yeah, I also I have like a strange relationship with Maddie because like though I do love her right now, and I'm rooting for her right now because of my disdain for Cassie and Sydney Sweeney. Um we forget that Maddie was like a bad fucking person in the beginning. Like fully lied about I th I want to say his name is Tyler, like raping her in the pool.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

Caused so much bullshit that did not need to happen.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Like at the same time, like she's abused, so it's like I uh uh uh do I feel I don't know how to I don't know how to feel all the fucking time and then I'm like do you do you is this a way of being like you know even villains get better? I don't even know if I'd ever call her a villain, but she is in someone's story.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

She is in Nate's story so much.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Fuck Nate. I know fuck Nate. This is really showing what happens when men peak in high school.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

My God, man. That the the spineless, I never thought that I would want toxic Nate Jacobs, and I kind of wanted him to pop up at the end of that fucking wedding when they were talking about like pressure cooking.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

He needs to pop up before the end of this season, at least. Come on. Where is this, man?

SPEAKER_00 34:00

Where is it?

SPEAKER_02 34:01

Where's the absolute psychopath, Nate Jacobs?

SPEAKER_00 34:04

I what happens in Nate? Is this what happens when did Nate?

SPEAKER_02 34:08

The one that's blackmailing Tyler. Seriously. Like the one that's slamming his head against the ground when him and his dad get in a fight. But like where's this guy?

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Not but like someone that like weaponized therapy, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone that like treats you like shit and then says that they gotta protect their peace.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Ooh, we love therapized narcissists.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

I can't. People that just like learn therapy language and then use it against you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

I don't know, dude. I don't, it's such, I don't know. I don't know what we're doing. I don't, I feel bad. That Jules.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Uh when she was like, if you want to kiss me, just kiss me. Like, what do you want from me? I was like, okay, okay, confidence. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

It comes out randomly with her.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Bring it up, bring it up, bring it out. And then her fuck ass boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

That I'm like, uh, whatever, he's paying for the whole place, but like, why did you treat her like that? And also, like, you're the one cheating on your wife.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

I know.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Get a fucking grip. Get a fucking grip. And like, if sh is Jules lying about Rue just being a friend, who's to say? I didn't see the scene. Probably. I didn't see if they actually hooked up or not.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

Probably.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

It wasn't there, so I can't say.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

But probably. Very much inferred.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

I can't say definitively.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Yeah. But who was wearing those shorts.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

But if it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I don't know what you're talking about. Um, anyways. Um if I talked to my mistress, basically, um that feels mean almost. Um, and was like, Who the fuck is this? And she was like, my friend came over. That was just my friend, T Slay, and you were like, oh fucking, and treat her like shit and then make her cry.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

It's not great.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Dude, fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Yeah. Didn't like felt bad for Jules.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Didn't like.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

Felt bad for Jules than that.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Feel bad for Lexi, feel bad for Jules.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Yeah. Miss Fez.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Miss Fez. Alright, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

Alright, I love you guys. Wait, did you watch anything else other than Euphoria?

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Uh, and Heated Ravalry.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Oh, yes. You're right. Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Um, more Tucci in Italy and more Master Chef if you want me to keep talking about that, but I think I've been down those roads. Um, alright, that's it. I'll have another heated rivalry next week, probably. Um, and we'll have more euphoria, most likely, I would assume.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Alright. Until then.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Until then.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

You know where to find us.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

See you later. That's a wrap.