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Episode #13 - Musicals
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On this week's episode we have a guest and talk all things musicals!
Cheers. Welcome to the Shot On Film Podcast.
SPEAKER_02This week.
SPEAKER_03With a friend.
SPEAKER_01Wow. How was that? Strong. Oh.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Adam. Adam. Yeah. Addam. It's Adam. Guys, there's three of us on the couch. Hello. This is my friend Adam. Adam, introduce yourself.
SPEAKER_05Hi, my name is Adam Leva. I am a good friend of Bella's.
SPEAKER_01And I'm happy to be here. Slay. Um, Adam is an actor in Los Angeles, so please, for the love of God, if you know anything that's good for you, hire him. Please.
SPEAKER_05Please. Please, please. Sorry, dude.
SPEAKER_03Theater majors, you know.
SPEAKER_05I didn't even go to college.
SPEAKER_03Theater people.
SPEAKER_01Theater musical. I'm done.
SPEAKER_05No, it's so good.
SPEAKER_01How loud is it?
SPEAKER_03No, it just stopped. There we go. Completely stopped. Oh, it's cutting out. Oh, that's good.
unknownPlease.
SPEAKER_03Good. There we go. I was gonna ask you just recently completed a show. Is that correct? You want to talk about that a little bit?
SPEAKER_05Sure. Um, I just finished doing a regional theater production of In the Heights, which is I don't know, um, a musical, actually Lynn Memo Miranda's first like big musical on Broadway. Kind of what made him a name in the theater world. And it's my favorite show. It's um about Latino people in a neighborhood in Manhattan called Washington Heights, uh, uptown. And it's just such a special musical. My my family is Puerto Rican from the Bronx, um, from South Bronx, which is really close by to Washington Heights. My mom uh grew up there, and it is just a really special, special story, not just for the fact that I relate to it, but it's really well written. The music is beautiful, the story is wonderful, there's so many characters that are fleshed out and complete, and you don't see them on stage kind of ever. So um it was very special, um, very, very special production. It was my first time getting to do it. Um Yeah, it was awesome. So thank you for asking.
SPEAKER_02They're so well spoken. We need to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01And there will be a second, there will be a second coming. The second coming of In the High. Um, also just oh my god, watching you. I've said it so many times to you already, but like watching you come out on stage, I was in fucking tears. I was a puddle in my seat so fast. It was I love you, I love you. It was so uh God.
SPEAKER_05For for anybody tuning in, um, me and Bella have been friends since high school theater class. So that was what bonded us. And my gosh, that was over 10 years ago now.
SPEAKER_01Fuck so yeah, little shop.
SPEAKER_05Little shop. That's right, we did the shop horse together.
SPEAKER_01Yes, which will all be talked about today as we talk about movie musicals. Good segue, good segue, Bella.
SPEAKER_03I was about to do it if you didn't. Well done.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, thank you. Well done.
SPEAKER_03Uh yeah, so we're talking movie musicals. Um, I think we're gonna have a fun range of different musicals at this uh couch tonight. Uh hope so. Yeah, we'll see.
SPEAKER_01We have knowledge this time.
SPEAKER_03We have knowledge. We have inside knowledge.
SPEAKER_04We're somewhat of a theater kid.
SPEAKER_03We're somewhat knowledgeable sometimes.
SPEAKER_01It's hey, sometimes you look up what we're just shooting in the dark sometimes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes you look up what's considered um a comfort movie.
SPEAKER_05That's your uh sequel series is shot. Mid-show.
SPEAKER_03You look up and go, wait, what was my next one? I didn't even figure it out yet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But m but musicals got you, girl. Gotcha, bitch.
SPEAKER_03I'm ready.
SPEAKER_01I'm ready.
SPEAKER_03I feel like one of you should go first. Are we talking shall we have the new one?
SPEAKER_01Or new edition? The newest. Go, guest star.
SPEAKER_05But what am what am I answering for?
SPEAKER_01What is your favorite movie musical? Okay. Top three if it hurts you.
SPEAKER_05No, I think I think I can answer. My favorite. Well, okay. That's okay. I don't know. I I'm gonna say my what always comes to mind first. My favorite movie musical is Hairspray, the 2007 I think it is. Or eight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'll take it.
SPEAKER_03Somewhere in that somewhere in that late 2000s.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, early 2000s. That movie. Zach Efron. I think that is the most perfect movie musical I've ever seen. It is so well cast, um, it's just so well done. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one for me.
SPEAKER_03T so I take it we're fans of movie musicals on this couch.
SPEAKER_01I do enjoy a movie musical when it's done correctly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was gonna say, I would prefer personally to watch a musical on a stage where they belong on film.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03More time than the stuff.
SPEAKER_01That's what they were made for, was the stage for sure. But sometimes it's a good one. But a well done musical is really awesome.
SPEAKER_03I had another question. This is not like on my list, but in my research. Does Whiplash count as a musical?
SPEAKER_01I would I would say that that counts as like um a movie about music. Yeah, kind of a thing, but I wouldn't call it like a musical movie.
SPEAKER_03Uh being a musical would mean it has to have like this.
SPEAKER_01I haven't seen Whiplash. You've never seen Whiplash? Well, it's okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna disappoint you later today, so it's okay.
SPEAKER_05Oh, bitch. Bitch, it's good. I've heard good things, um, but uh yeah, I haven't gotten into it. We love abuse rushing or dragging. Right. I know there's I know there's JK Sonic is opinion.
SPEAKER_01So fucking good. So fucking good.
SPEAKER_05It's true. But I've heard good things. Yeah. It's a good watch. It's definitely a different thing.
SPEAKER_03All of Damien Sichel's movies are good watches.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Amen.
SPEAKER_05We we actually saw Babylon's.
SPEAKER_03Is La La Land a musical? No, I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_01You know, that actually maybe. That one is.
SPEAKER_03That one is. Yeah. So is Babylon.
SPEAKER_01Because in my head, I'm like, the difference between like a movie with mu like uh or a movie. La La Land is a musical. La La Land's for sure. Guys, I can't speak. Go ahead. No, there's three of us talking.
SPEAKER_03I know, it's fun. We're just gonna be all over each other.
SPEAKER_01This is gonna be such a mess for you.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm just letting it ride.
SPEAKER_01All right, cool. This is just I'm just thinking about you editing later and then being like, hey, bitch, shut up.
SPEAKER_03I only had like five edits last week. It was great.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I won't have edited anything so far outside of the mic breaking on me for a second.
SPEAKER_01It'll be good, it'll be good. Um, but I think the difference between like a movie with music and a movie musical is how much or how little I should say dialogue is in between. Like, because I uh that's the thing about like musicals is that people are literally like singing to progress the story. Thank you, something rotten. Um, instead of like being like, there's a song in the movie and you like it.
SPEAKER_03Maybe five so Joker fully ado.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, actually, I mean that is technically a movie musical because they do often in that movie. It's it is unfortunately really terrible.
SPEAKER_03I I know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We talk about it often on this on this podcast.
SPEAKER_01I feel like we're talking about it once or twice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like this will be like the third time. Is it? I would say that's often.
SPEAKER_01Fuck.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, one in every four episodes it gets brought up. Uh I think I brought it up last week. That's why I'm saying it's fresh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we talked about um sequels. Movies that didn't need to be made into sequels, yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Apparently you spelled sequels wrong.
SPEAKER_03I s why why would you not tell me that I just thought earlier?
SPEAKER_01I can change the spelling.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, 13 episodes in and I haven't had a typo until now, that's not terrible.
SPEAKER_01I would have I wouldn't have my dyslexic ass.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's okay.
SPEAKER_05What is your favorite movie music?
SPEAKER_00I feel like it's so obvious. Like I would. It's Mamma Mia. Okay, yeah. Nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_01I eat that bitch up. I love ABBA. Um, did speaking of sequels, did Mamma Mia 2 need to be made? I don't know. Yes. Yes, I I thought Because it was great. I had a good time.
SPEAKER_05I just thought it the plot was odd to kill off Donna. I just didn't understand that. And then shares coming in. It's like shares older than still around.
SPEAKER_03That is sometimes the issue with sequels. That was just like, okay, how do we make this dramatic to keep it going? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01See, that was my thing. What was the plot when it also like the plot is literally like in front of you? Like, I feel like maybe Mamma Mia 2 should have been a prequel moment.
SPEAKER_03That could have been interesting.
SPEAKER_01Instead of just how in instead of it being like half prequel, half now. She's pregnant and there's a storm at the hotel.
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01Help.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Sometimes sequels are great though.
SPEAKER_01But I love the music, so I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I'm here, I'm half.
SPEAKER_03It's hard to complain.
SPEAKER_01Ah, I I love it. And it's so like near and dear to me because um that was the first stage musical that my mom ever took me to. Yes, I fell asleep because I was probably like four years old. Okay. I was like three or four years old and I fell asleep. But I remember being like, oh my God, and like sitting in the theater and being like, I'm a grown-up and I'm so and I'm gonna behave so well in my seat, and I wasn't singing along and I really wanted to. And and then uh I fell asleep.
SPEAKER_02You you tend to do that to this day.
SPEAKER_01I still do that, no matter how excited I am and I get until I go watch a movie and the you've seen it.
unknownI have seen it.
SPEAKER_03You just run out of battery and it just turns off.
SPEAKER_01And then I and then it wakes up like 15 minutes in and I'm like, fuck. But I'm gonna enjoy it, and nobody's gonna make fun of me because they've all seen me do it at this point.
SPEAKER_03We'll still make fun of you a little bit. I know. Do you have a favorite movie musical? Oh yeah. I grew up on movie musicals, but they're like a lot of the movie musicals I grew up on were like the classic ones, you know, like you're singing in the rain. No, like the classic classic. Yeah. Um, which is my favorite one is uh the sound of music. Yeah. So I love a Julie Andrews. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh I remember that.
SPEAKER_03I've talked about it before already more than once on this podcast. So I'm like, it's a good one.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Do I need to do I need to talk about Interstellar again?
SPEAKER_01I know that's not a musical, but like the music's beautiful.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, that's true.
SPEAKER_01Yes, absolutely love it. Good score.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Um I want to go to Austria and do the run in a run in a field and just go for it. Yeah, exactly. I want to go see those those very live hills.
SPEAKER_05I just actually saw it on stage of the Pentagon a few weeks ago. Like two weeks ago, maybe. It was pretty dang good. The Maria was amazing. Yeah. She had a beautiful, beautiful voice. So shout out to her. Shout out to you. As if she's gonna see this at some point. You never know. You never know, actually. You never know.
SPEAKER_01Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.
SPEAKER_05You know, we'll we'll get somewhere.
SPEAKER_01Is there any other um movie musicals that you want to give shout out to?
SPEAKER_05I I mean I have to give a shout-out to Wicked. Slayer that was incredible, incredible work. Cynthia. Oh my god, Cynthia Revo, man. Like Ariana. Ariana.
SPEAKER_01Uh we were just listening to you in the car.
SPEAKER_05We are that that Ariana's been my my main you know musical artist since my god, since ever. Yeah, since ever. She's for sure my number one. Um so that was super special. And Cynthia Revo is just literally a once-in-a-lifetime talent, and that role, nobody's ever done it better. I will die on that hill for sure. Nobody has a better voice. Um nobody acted better than she did. I'm sorry. Um, the year Wicked Part One came out. I think she deserved that best actress Oscar. What year was that? That was 2024.
SPEAKER_012024? Five.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, when are we? Uh Mikey Madison. Mikey Max. Oh, that was that was the uh stopped being annoying.
SPEAKER_01Mike Wicked is the shit for sure.
SPEAKER_05You have another?
SPEAKER_01Uh I was gonna say, I was like, I don't think that it's a movie, to my knowledge. I could be so wrong, and you can tell me that I'm wrong, and that's fine. Uh I was just gonna say I was like, uh, 13 the musical. Where is Ariana got now?
SPEAKER_05It is now? It is. It uh Netflix made it a year and they use actual like real young kids. I didn't watch it because it felt weird to watch the babies. That's but I was like, oh, my heart and spirit because where Ariana came from.
SPEAKER_0113 Love You Down, where me and Adam became friends, and then um uh also Little Shop of Horrors that's also a movie, also for us.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So what musicals need a sequel? Isn't that what you wanted to add?
SPEAKER_01I was saying what what should be made into a movie musical.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, well then go ahead. By all means.
SPEAKER_01I have an answer.
SPEAKER_05Uh Heather's the musical should be uh a movie. That's fine. It is a movie. For sure. Well, it's a movie. The musical.
SPEAKER_06But the musical.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see. I see, I see, I see. Yes.
SPEAKER_05Musical version should be a movie, and I think it would be great. If if you can do it, great. I feel like movie musicals lately have really struggled in in in living up to what they are on stage, which is unfortunate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But I think that one can really be something great on film.
SPEAKER_01I think that um in a way that like live actions are specifically like our beloved Disney live actions. Yeah. That they get that we never talked about on this podcast repeatedly. Um, that they get a bad rep because it's like also fucking Mulan deserved music in that one. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03God, that was why the fuck would you take the anyways? We're gonna go down this road again.
SPEAKER_01No, I just am mad about it every fucking time. I why?
SPEAKER_05And then ha but speaking of, I got to meet um I got to meet Ming Na Wen. Yeah, bitch. After one of the Heights shows, she came to see it, and that was incredible. I got to hug her, and she was very, very nice and took a picture. That's awesome, and that was so cool.
SPEAKER_01They should have let her sing in that live action. They should they should let her sing. They should have let people sing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well they did. She did a little cameo moment, but you know what I mean. Not good enough.
SPEAKER_01No, oh my god, no. They that's such good music and so good music. Anyways, but what I was gonna say is that like because um I think that argu which is strange. Here's the thing is that I I feel like theater people immediately people think musicals and like when people wanna like when they go out to um a theater, like a live stage theater, it's usually a musical. People aren't going to street plays um as often, I feel, and I fear um and but if you're not a theater person, you don't see musicals often, and so your version of a musical is a live-action Disney movie being sung to you. For sure. That's true, which is why I think that movie musicals get a bad rap.
SPEAKER_05Well Okay, wait. I think we're taking the conversation off.
SPEAKER_01Maybe I should have put that on a whiteboard. No, that was just a random thought I had.
SPEAKER_03It was a bit of a long walk.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, sorry, sorry. I love the long walk, it's so good. Anyway, sorry.
SPEAKER_05That's a good movie. Um wait, where were we at?
SPEAKER_01We were talking about things that should be. That should be. Oh, wait, there we go.
SPEAKER_03You know what movie could be a musical, and I just thought of this, and this is super stupid. Uh Avatar.
SPEAKER_06Hey.
SPEAKER_03Wait, which once blue people avatar?
SPEAKER_05I knew it. That already exists. It's Pocahontas.
SPEAKER_03Good music. Uh great music.
SPEAKER_01You've never seen Avatar the Airbender.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_03Well, that's not a real thing.
SPEAKER_01You're a bitch. Give me your finger. Give me let me hold space. Wow, I'm so proud of you. Theater viewer being obnoxious in front of the non-theater person. Uh Harrison is. I'm so used to this. Harrison doesn't live on the internet the same way.
SPEAKER_05No, I don't. For anybody unfamiliar, we're referencing an iconic moment between Cynthia Revo and Ariana Grande in their press junket uh run for Wicked, where very iconic. They uh holds space just like this.
SPEAKER_03Really holding space for Wicked.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. I almost bought a t-shirt that had this on it. Oh my god, make a plate. Do you know the t-shirt I'm talking about? No. I'm gonna send it to you. Yeah, I saw it and I was like, wait, why is it kind of good? Like it's so dumb, but it's kind of good. And then I was like, no, I can't, I can't buy a meme and put it on a shirt. Make a plate. Sometimes they're funny as heck. Like a what?
SPEAKER_03Make a plate.
SPEAKER_01Make a plate. Ah, I did, I did make a plate.
SPEAKER_03Make another one. Hold space plate.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, no, the hands are gonna look so bad.
SPEAKER_03No, I trust you.
SPEAKER_01I think that a movie, a movie musical, I believe should be remade is Phantom of the Opera.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03What was wrong with that one? No, absolutely fucking nothing.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely stunning. Every time, every now and then, like I'll like think about shameless, and I'm like, and she can sing, bitch.
SPEAKER_02Like sing.
SPEAKER_01She can fucking sing. I just want to give you a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03I'd be down with Love Never Dies also getting its own musical. What? Love Never Dies. Notice the sequel to Phantom of the Opera.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh. Is it getting a movie?
SPEAKER_03No, I just I was like, I'd be okay with that. I would take it you guys haven't seen the show then. I have not.
SPEAKER_01I have not. I do know about it, but I have not.
SPEAKER_03I like it more than Phantom of the Opera. I saw it at the Pantages a few years ago and I was like this is really good. I mean, Phantom is iconic, of course.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like I said, I just want to give Rachel another spotlight. Rachel Zeglerum, I want to give you another spotlight.
SPEAKER_03You want her to be Christine?
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, yes. It's on my bingo card. It's on my bingo card that Rachel Zugler gets cast as Christine. Filmed by I'm not filmed by Hello.
SPEAKER_03Directed by I was gonna say who directs this? Who?
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, Guillaume de Toro.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, that he was like, maybe I make Phantom next.
SPEAKER_02Does he do musicals?
SPEAKER_01He He made Pinocchio. He hasn't helped me to get it. Is that a musical one? No.
SPEAKER_05The the Pinocchio wasn't.
SPEAKER_01But wouldn't it be such a good aesthetic? Wouldn't it be so beautiful?
SPEAKER_03I love the aesthetic. Maybe get his production designer, you know.
SPEAKER_01Listen, I believe in him. I believe that he can make something great.
SPEAKER_03No, I love Gyaramo, don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER_01Doesn't he, or if he's not if he doesn't have it already, isn't he close to an egot?
SPEAKER_05I would guess. Actually don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I do not know. I don't know. Does he have a Tony? I No, I don't think he's probably the one.
SPEAKER_01That might be the one that he's missing.
SPEAKER_03That he's missing.
SPEAKER_01But I do believe that he has an Emmy.
SPEAKER_03I think he has an Emmy.
SPEAKER_01An Oscar for sure.
SPEAKER_03For sure he has many Oscars.
SPEAKER_01I want to say he has a Grammy and Grammy before.
SPEAKER_03Like music video.
SPEAKER_01Movie. I will double check on that one, but it's it's something that I I'm and yeah, I might be wrong, I might be right, and I might be something in between.
unknownYeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like my no one knows what you said, so probably something in between.
SPEAKER_01And that's okay.
SPEAKER_05Did you say a musical that you would want to be made into a movie? Phantom. Oh sequel.
SPEAKER_01I want it, I want it remade. Just as not not to any shit to the original movie. I just want it made again. Yeah, I just want a second one. I want it to be like, oh look, an anniversary. Let's make it again.
SPEAKER_03Um so exactly what Disney does with all their animated films.
SPEAKER_01Shut up. Yeah. But oh and if not that remake, I will also I'll kill you both. But better. I don't know, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But like not a cash grab. Like actually about making it.
SPEAKER_01Like actually. As much as the tone is just like that. I just think that it would look so beautiful. Especially after Frankenstein, it would look so beautiful. It would. And like I just like Rachel's voice would be so stunning, and who they cast with her, you better step your fucking pussy up.
SPEAKER_05True. Oh, you better be on her level. I don't want to see nothing else.
SPEAKER_01I'll take Hades Town as well.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, that would be great.
SPEAKER_01That would be fantastic, especially after the Odyssey. People are really gonna be into Greek mythology. They are.
SPEAKER_02They are.
SPEAKER_01I listen. And for a bitch that's never left it, I would love to see uh uh uh put me in, coach. Here, this is my own shameless audition. Please cast me as Eurydices. I will eat down and up through the tunnel and back again. Amen. All right. Moving on, how do we feel about TV shows that make it a point to add a musical episode?
SPEAKER_03I love it when they do it in High Met Your Mother. Hey, Neil Patrick Harris can deliver a musical number.
SPEAKER_01Isn't that cute? I know that we've talked about it because it's all about it.
SPEAKER_03Talk about you got status, by the way. The man has a Tony, I'm pretty sure, doesn't he?
SPEAKER_01Well, he's hosted the Tonies like four times.
SPEAKER_03He's hosted the Tonies many times. I I would assume the man can do a musical performance.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he has a theater kid. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Wasn't he on Glee? Yeah, he was.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he was. Singing Dream On. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03We talked about this.
SPEAKER_01Matthew Morrison.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What a fucking dueling guitar solo. Hit the note. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hit the fucking note. Hey, as if he'd never gone through puberty. Stunning. Should have talked about it. Gorgeous. At Ariana Grande SNL skit with her in like the Renaissance outfit, and they're like Oh, oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05And Antonio.
SPEAKER_01We castrate so that they never hit puberty and they can sing beautifully forever.
SPEAKER_05Terrible.
SPEAKER_01Awful. Bad thing to do. Funny as fuck skit. That bitch was disassociating the entire time, and I thought it was really funny. Yeah, I do love her distant stare. It's so good.
SPEAKER_05Musical episodes. I don't I feel like more negative about it. That's fair. Yeah, they're sometimes quite cringy. I just, yeah, I just don't really see that fitting in. It's really just being done just to throw something at the wall and try to get more audience, right?
SPEAKER_01It always kind of it feels like to me personally that it's like, hey, I have an actor who can sing. Yes. And it would be weird if I didn't showcase this, but also it would maybe make the rest of the cast annoyed or jealous if they didn't too get a song.
SPEAKER_03Right. So you have to include them in the musical number.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That should be And sometimes I'm like But not everybody should be in it. Kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_05Everybody should be in it, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01And um But also sometimes I'm like, ah, it's kind of it's fun at least.
SPEAKER_05It can be fun. I mean, I think when it's like not something serious, which there like sure, there's room for silly funny ha-ha's.
SPEAKER_01I don't remember it all that well, but I remember like Grey's Anatomy had one. See, like you see what I mean, where it's just like it doesn't make sense at all, but they're just having a good fucking time.
SPEAKER_03That's not okay.
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah. I like my doctor just in the middle of surgery busted down. You are dying. Like that would be ridiculous. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Phantom overture starts like what?
SPEAKER_01Yes. As we pull back, forgive me for not remembering actors' names at the moment. Um it's okay. Patrick Dempsey. Um what? No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um, so there's a scene where the character Callie breaks into song and her girlfriend Arizona, the actor, she literally couldn't stop laughing when it happened. So they were like, just put your head down on the bed and act like you're like praying, or that like this is so heartbreaking that you can't take it and you have to put your head down on the bed because she could not stop laughing.
SPEAKER_03I love it when actors are breaking on set. It's so fun. It's so fun. Uh I don't like when I'm directing, like I I know when there's like large money on the line, you have time and all that, blah blah blah. But like I love it. I'm like, I like let's just work through this and like let's just enjoy the 17 takes we're gonna have to do as you have fun as you laugh. And everybody's everybody on set morale is better, you know.
SPEAKER_05Like morale can be boosted for sure. I think after you gotta be able to lock in after a few. I feel like all right, yeah. Like let's focus up.
SPEAKER_03But I think there's a set like I think everybody gets that though when it's happening.
SPEAKER_05After three, I need you to I do think we yeah, all right. For sure.
SPEAKER_01As your first AD, I need you to get it get it together. For sure. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you. We have time limits on our location sets. Yeah, that's the only problem.
SPEAKER_05Yeah things, I would say no.
SPEAKER_01Kind of cringy, but is fun. It's like watching a random glee episode, you know what I mean? It's like glee is the whole fucking show, is like that.
SPEAKER_03Right, but if I'm watching Lost, I don't need glee, you know? Like, right, right, right, right.
unknownThat's the problem.
SPEAKER_05Not that that that didn't happen. When it's appropriate. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_01I haven't, but like how funny. I have I know we haven't gotten to like what we've been watching recently. We're about to. We're about to. And so, you know what? Then fuck it. So I'm watching hacks now because Adam's been trying to get me on hacks for so long, and um, I've done extra work on hacks, and they were they were so fun and slay. Um I would I was gonna say, I was like, I would watch those bitches break in a song and be okay with it. That would be fine because I don't know if they do because I've only watched I'm only I just finished season one, so I'm on episode one of season two. Hell yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, I would watch those bitches break into song. I'm having the greatest fucking time. This comedy's back. Okay, comedy's back and it has no syntax.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god. So good. So good.
SPEAKER_01It's HBO.
SPEAKER_03HBO. See, of course.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03They don't miss.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, well, they're pretty good.
SPEAKER_03They gotta hide their their batting percentage is really good. Indeed. Yeah. I agree with that.
SPEAKER_01I would say that compared to Netflix. Out of every like ten shows that they put out, eight of them are good.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03Apple's the same way. They just don't have the quantity and the years of being in it like HBO does. But Apple has hit some.
SPEAKER_01Has some really heavy hitters. Speaking of HBO, so you watch Euphoria.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're gonna start there.
SPEAKER_01Did you watch Euphoria? Did you watch the episode?
SPEAKER_05Not this past Sunday. Do you care about spoilers? Not really. It's it's fine.
SPEAKER_01Also saying that like I don't really know what I'd be spoiling. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Hey, spoiler, Rue doesn't die.
SPEAKER_01Rue doesn't die.
SPEAKER_05I'm shocked. Yeah. This is shocking news.
SPEAKER_02I know. We were all right.
SPEAKER_01Rue is one of those shows that if you did break out into song, I would be confused. Except for season one, where it ends, and it went into like a dance moment.
SPEAKER_02That was dope.
SPEAKER_01That was really fucking good. That wasn't like an entire like with like all the people carrying her through the street.
SPEAKER_03Like that was very cool.
SPEAKER_05It was in it was in theme.
SPEAKER_03It was in for season one. Uh at least two season one.
SPEAKER_05It made sense. It wasn't just yeah, it totally made sense.
SPEAKER_01That was yeah, no, it was great, and it was such a beautiful way to end that season.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so I'll try not to spoil the whole thing. Whilst reviewing.
SPEAKER_05Like it's fine. Fuck it, it's fine. It's really fine.
SPEAKER_03I'm I just one was my least favorite episode of the season.
SPEAKER_05Yikes.
SPEAKER_01I'm so sorry to agree.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yikes.
SPEAKER_03It's just like nothing is happening.
SPEAKER_01I I I do feel like I liked seeing Leslie for a half second.
SPEAKER_05Right, and I saw that that happened. That pissed me off.
SPEAKER_01She literally um told everybody, like, my episode is coming up.
SPEAKER_03It's my episode? Yes. I mean, I'm assuming they filmed her side of the phone call and they just cut it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Exactly what happened. She was like, she filmed so much and out the whole fucking thing. So that her mom fucking fucking Nina's mom was like, damn, you got the whole internet to watch you say one line.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, Poor thing.
SPEAKER_03The thing is, is I don't totally disagree with the decision to stay on root there from a directorial state, but I would almost not cut to her if she's literally gonna not say shit. Like, why'd you say the one line? The one line and then cut like and then it held on it as if it's just like a hey audience just acknowledging this is the mom and she's here in this one shot just to give her her moment. But nothing actually happened, it held on that shot for way too long, and then I'm I was like waiting for her to do something, say something, like something to happen, and like someone else was in the room. I don't know, you know, and like nothing happened. And I was like, why did that was terrible?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it felt like they cut to her to prove that this wasn't another like Fezco call. Yes, yes, um, but also I'm like, Well, if she filmed so much, I would assume that she did or said more and they just cut it out. So I'm curious, like what else? How long was the phone call? Yeah, like did she did she like get up and pace around? Does does Gia come into or try to come into the room? I know Gia Stormy's not in the show anymore, but like I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I don't know. That's just disappointing. I mean, especially when Nika King kind of could have gotten the Emmy nomination for her work in season two, if you ask me.
SPEAKER_03That that episode five scene with her and Rue. I mean, like that's how Zendaya probably won her Emmy for that season.
SPEAKER_05And it was was that scene.
SPEAKER_03She was just as good and she carried just as much weight.
SPEAKER_05And so the fact that she wasn't even in that conversation always irritated me.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, award shows are just the best, aren't they? So much fun.
SPEAKER_05They always get it right. Um, but that's really disappointing to hear that she isn't even given. Especially when this especially this season has just been not it to say.
SPEAKER_01It hasn't been euphoria, is what we've been saying. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03If this wasn't euphoria and it was some random HBO show, I would have stopped watching already.
SPEAKER_05Oof. Yeah. Oof. I mean, I I'm literally only there because I've been with it since the beginning.
SPEAKER_03I love the I love some of these characters. I want to see where they end up. Yeah. I am not I am not in this storyline. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And it's ridiculous that so there's time for so much else in this season, but there's not time for this.
SPEAKER_03What I would imagine is a pretty important conversation between the main character and her mother, who that that was the central It was so important to like and well, it's yeah, her battle with addiction and what it does to her family was literally the central thing of season one and two.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And then for some reason something that Sam Levinson has personally experienced.
SPEAKER_05Also, I feel like you would think that that was that part at least. You know, that part. The focus would be, and not fucking Sydney Sweeney.
SPEAKER_01I need Sydney Sweeney to have less airtime.
SPEAKER_03Um, increase, I promise you. It's crazy. These there's two episodes left. She's gonna get half the fucking airtime.
SPEAKER_01And it's not even the series finale, apparently.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it doesn't say series, it says season finale. Yeah, which tells me that HBO's kind of just waiting to see how the reception of the finale is to see if like people like it and they're gonna bode well.
SPEAKER_01Red light or green light. She's not gonna say without her.
SPEAKER_03No, it's nothing without her.
SPEAKER_05She said on, I think it was like Drew Barrymore um recently, they asked her, like, so like is this the last season of Euphoria? And she said, Yeah, I think so. Yeah. She said that with her own social media.
SPEAKER_03But HBO will probably try to squeeze every last dime out of it if they can. So they're gonna leave the door, spin off. They're gonna leave the door open as much as they can.
SPEAKER_01I'll watch a show just with Hunter Schaefer.
SPEAKER_03Right, they'll make another spin-off episode with just Hunter Schaefer. Exactly. And the thing is, is I'll watch it. I'll watch it. I'll watch that. Yeah, I'll watch that. I will see the series as I will uh, you know, give me a Maddie spin-off episode, I'll watch that too.
SPEAKER_01My confessional moment is that I was really happy to see a character with OCD in the in season one being Rue. And then now not that I need people to like be reminded of any sort of condition, but it feels like it doesn't matter doesn't really exist in her character anymore.
SPEAKER_03Well, honestly, the addiction itself is like gone. I'm like, do you not still struggle with that? Like, where yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, she's California. Yeah, no, I know.
SPEAKER_03But I'm like, she's around fucking all the drugs all the time. How is she not having any kind of Whereas like in high school when they went to the party and she was like she can't help herself before, but now all of a sudden she's now she's just afraid for her life.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm not I don't know. Maybe that takes over people that they're like, I just fear of dying will do that. Yeah, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I'm just disappointed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and this this last episode was like I feel like the story didn't progress at all, so you wasted an entire episode.
SPEAKER_03I don't really remember what I was still that Cassie cries.
SPEAKER_05I don't want to fucking hear about Cassie any anymore Nate stomps on some flowers.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's that Jules slaps Rue.
SPEAKER_03That's true. Oh that was that was probably the most eventful thing that happened in the Jules basically like tells Rue to fuck off, you know. Oh damn.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well because she's judging her for being, you know, a side piece, basically. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Because Rue was like, and I don't know if you'll see.
SPEAKER_03Which is probably the best scene of the episode in terms of like writing.
SPEAKER_01Just to see it, just to keep going.
SPEAKER_03I mean, there's only three episodes left.
SPEAKER_01Basically, the up the the scene is that like Rue is being like, you know, I want I want the house and I want the kids, the American dream. And Jules was like, Bitch, be so fucking for real. You want you want what? And then Rue was like, Well, what are you gonna tell me that you're living the fucking dream, being a mistress? Yeah, and then she was like, His wife knows about me, and was like, You sound pathetic. And Jules slaps her. And it's like, he's gonna be back in 45 minutes, you should probably get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, it's a good scene, honestly.
SPEAKER_01And then she goes, and then Rue goes to a church and calls her mom.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Or the mom calls her, actually.
SPEAKER_03That's true.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She reaches out.
SPEAKER_03And that's about it in terms of eventful things that happen in the episode. I mean, Lori and Alamo meet, and it's whatever.
SPEAKER_01You get um the beginning of the episode, it kind of reminded me of season one. I will say that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the Alamo backstory a little bit.
SPEAKER_01But like as a child, all the way way back.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, way, way back.
SPEAKER_01So I was like, cooled and again, still uh narrated by Zendaya.
SPEAKER_03I love the the Euphoria opening montages are awesome. So good. Overall, they're pretty much. The one before the the previous episode didn't love that one.
SPEAKER_05I I said It was a blemish. I said you've heard of uh yeah. I said you I said you've heard of torture porn, but get ready for porn torture. Yeah. Because that was um That was hard to fucking read. That was really really awful. Yep.
SPEAKER_01That was so fucking pointless. It was really awful for 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_05I've just never seen a blatant, just like I I've just never seen a blatant disrespect of an actor before, you know what I mean? Like a just blatant over beyond sexualization. Like I get it.
SPEAKER_01Sydney Sweeney has the ability to come.
SPEAKER_05That's great. I just I think that was just at the end of the day, just disrespectful to like even just women in general. Like yeah, I just think that that was outrageous, and I can't even believe they put it on TV.
SPEAKER_01I feel like it also just it frames sex workers in such like a this is what the the the it's such a bad light because it like feeds into what people think sex work is. Yeah, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_05I think it just it was just done in such a poor way. It was just done, it was not done in a way of telling you. And it was way too fucking long. Yeah, it was way too long. Super long.
SPEAKER_04It was like everything you could maybe ever do in that line of work.
SPEAKER_03Why did we have to make her gigantic?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and then like that whole thing was so disrespectful to the actual like giant woman.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_05I think it was just because I I was assuming that we were doing a metaphor of like she was gaining popularity and success.
SPEAKER_03But like becoming big-headed, like, but like what I low-key thought that the metaphor went out the window when that happened. Yeah, mega tits. Yeah, that's that was necessary, but the metaphor went out the window.
SPEAKER_01I thought she was gonna turn into King Kong at first. Yeah, that would have been with like the music, is what I thought. That's where that was going.
SPEAKER_03But like Euphoria has in the past had these weird fantasy psychological weird sequences, you know. Detective cat, yeah, detective rude cat Game of Thrones, like yeah, like this felt like them trying to do that, but like not really having the right idea because they're in this totally other universe of storylines right now. Right. And I'm like, no, just no, this this didn't work.
SPEAKER_01I just wasn't a fan, yeah. Which is really, really disheartening.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Anything positive to say about this last episode?
SPEAKER_01I watched the boys' finale.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_05The boys, okay, don't spoil that because I haven't watched it.
SPEAKER_01Uh I will not, I won't say I won't spoiler free opinion. Because it literally came out today. We're recording this on Wednesday.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah. Um I'm nervous.
SPEAKER_03Is it series or just season? Series. Ooh. So did they land the plane?
SPEAKER_05Sounds like they did not.
SPEAKER_01It was like the plane crash from the first season.
SPEAKER_03Um, I just mean metaphorical.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um not something most shows do.
SPEAKER_01I think I think that's your answer. Um, I I I think they land the plane.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01I think I think everyone land they land the plane and everyone gets off safely.
SPEAKER_03Um that doesn't sound like the boys.
SPEAKER_01Things happened where were where um bitches got what they deserved.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Amen.
SPEAKER_01Amen. And that's it. Okay. That's I don't think I can say anything else without it making sense. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. Because I I wanna I wanna watch.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03Alright.
SPEAKER_01Adam and I watched Obsession.
SPEAKER_03Okay. We did. It looks really good.
SPEAKER_01It was fucking good.
SPEAKER_05It is a very good movie.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's the rise of YouTubers and horrors. And they are coming. And they're coming with a fucking vengeance. They're here to make a fucking spot for horror.
SPEAKER_05They're coming to save movie making.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Do you know what I kind of feel like in a weird way? I don't know if you've studied film history very much, but like back in the 70s, there was a bunch of like young filmmakers, the Martin Scorsese, Francis Four Coppolas of the Worlds, that were like, um, they were going to like those early film schools, and it was like right after like the like studio system of the 50s and and 60s had kind of broken down, and there was like this new revolution of like, let's pay the young artists some money and see what they got kind of thing. Yeah. And it really kind of feels like we're entering another one of those eras right now.
SPEAKER_01And thank God.
SPEAKER_03In the 2020s, of like actually trusting some indie artists every once in a while and giving giving some, you know, screen time to some new people.
SPEAKER_01And if if you're gonna give if you're gonna find those like new young independent voices of like what would have been from the the 70s that relates to people now, those are YouTubers.
SPEAKER_06Sure.
SPEAKER_01That to me is a YouTuber, someone that literally is making it for the passion of the game.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, because like when you know YouTube started in 2005. Yeah, yeah, we're older than YouTube, bitch. Shut up. I know, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. I learned about that and I actually threw up. Um hate that. But you know what? Love to say I think. Shut up. Shut up. Damn you old.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01Bitch!
SPEAKER_03I think I think I am, you're not. It was invented the in in between our birthdays.
SPEAKER_01When was it invented?
SPEAKER_0398.
SPEAKER_01But what month?
SPEAKER_03I don't I think it was like the summer of 98.
SPEAKER_01All right, I'm just a little bit.
SPEAKER_03So you're like just barely older or younger than Google. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01God damn it. Anyways. Fuck. Okay, it's fine. Anyways, what I was saying is that like because in the beginning of YouTube, you really did, you just did it for views, and that was it. You just were like, other people like what I'm making, or fuck it, maybe they don't, and I like what I'm making, and that's all you that's all you got, that's all you needed. And now now there's you monetize your videos and you make so here's the thing is that like you make some money.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01After some time, you make a lot more money.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. We're on that grain right now.
SPEAKER_01Um over time, you know, people still like re-watch your videos and that revenue still shows up in your your paycheck.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, like you're getting tied.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01Just gonna happen every year, probably. I feel like I'm I don't know. Actually, you know what? Yeah, I'm manifesting one of these years, I win that fucking bet. One of these years.
SPEAKER_03Go on.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, you make some money. Um some people make a lot of money, but it's not nearly what making a full feature film is like. Right. And the the marketing, the red carpets, the promotion, the interviews, everything for it is just such on a crazy grand scheme. Scheme. Yeah, that's awesome. It's grand scale. Um, it's fucking insane. And those YouTubers that just really do it because they love it, they fucking deserve they do.
SPEAKER_05Well, there's that platform showing that they they know what they're doing, and they have original ideas, right?
SPEAKER_03100%.
SPEAKER_01And the they that's what people are fucking starving.
SPEAKER_03Some people out there that just if you could give them some money to back their ideas, that we could get some really awesome new original stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, if I could pay my rent and I got to make something fucking cool.
SPEAKER_03We got great ideas, like some of our great ideas, some like we have such really
SPEAKER_01Good fucking ideas that we're gonna talk about in the next two weeks. We have some really good ideas by the way, we're gonna talk about this in the next two weeks. Okay. We have these really great ideas. And it would be really fucking cool to bring them to life and still be able to like not worry about eating.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_01Right. Right.
SPEAKER_06I'm like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Word. Obsession. Going back to her. Oh yes.
SPEAKER_05You want to talk about her?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. More thoughts. I want your.
SPEAKER_03Try to not spoil, because I do want to see this.
SPEAKER_05Um without spoiling, I think it just over I we were talking about it, and just across every aspect of the filmmaking, it was impressive.
SPEAKER_03I know nothing about this movie except it's keep it that way.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, keep it that way. I've not seen a trailer.
SPEAKER_03I've seen that it's very highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes. That's it.
SPEAKER_01The trailer is what made me be like, I kind of avoid social media for the most part.
SPEAKER_03I'm a hermit. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you really do. And pay off.
SPEAKER_01And sometimes it does.
SPEAKER_03Going to see Project Hail Mary, knowing absolutely nothing about it, other than, oh, people say this movie's good, and then just going, like, whoa. So yeah, I'm hoping to feel similar, but well, not similar to how I felt leaving Project Hail Mary, because very different. No, you're gonna leave very different.
SPEAKER_01I said that I left the theater wanting to throw up, but like an example.
SPEAKER_03I didn't want to hurt myself. Wait.
SPEAKER_01No, no. Too far. Bring it back. Just a little bit. Just throw up. I know you're afraid of throwing up.
SPEAKER_03We don't do that very often.
SPEAKER_01But but you could.
SPEAKER_03Twice in the last 20 years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'm trying to keep it low too like that.
SPEAKER_01And then we ended up doing a double.
SPEAKER_05We did see Is God Is as well. Not even heard of this. Oh girl. It's good. That was great. And that was a pretty anticipated movie for me because it's actually an adaptation of a play by the same name. Um, but I didn't actually know about it until the trailer for the movie version came out. And it's my pretty much my favorite genre of movies is a revenge film. Okay, give us the premise. It's um it's two uh twin girls and they grew up on their own. They they're um burn victims. They're they're you don't know why when it starts out necessarily, like you don't know what happened to them. Um should I spoil that? Like as far as or should I just I'll I'll in my head that's in the trailer.
SPEAKER_03If something happens in like act one, it's okay, you know. It is in the trailer, but I just in the trailer or if it happens in the first 20, 30 minutes, then it's okay, you know.
SPEAKER_05One of them has burn marks on her face, the other one is more on her arm. Okay, and basically they they go on this mission to get revenge against the person that did that to them. And it's very I'm already in. It's it's it's very it's new, it's different. You haven't seen it before because they're also black women, and they're slightly, you know, they're that you don't see that that much. Um I love that. Unfortunately, you don't you don't, especially darker skinned black women and they're both predominantly black women, and they have beautiful race. Yeah, um, so they go on this revenge chill and it's about it's kind of a gothic southern as well, because it takes place in the south. Fun. And it's very stylized, and it's stylized in a way that that is new and exciting and did things that I've never seen, such as um the thing I was thinking about was I've never seen this done on film. Maybe it has been done and I just didn't know, but this was the first time I've seen it. Go for it. There was a flashback, and in the flashback, the character is is narrating the flashback, but the character is is reenacting the flashback while speaking about it. So let's so that doesn't sound right when I say it out loud. But when you see it it makes sense.
SPEAKER_03You're you're speaking the narration while acting in the space of the flashback. Yeah. Right. And we're behaving as if we're just talking on the couch with you, but you're narrating. Yes. That's fun.
SPEAKER_05And I'd never seen that before. That's fun. And it fit really well.
SPEAKER_01There's only one time that I can recall, and it wasn't totally like a flashback either. It was in a Wes Anderson movie. Um God help me with the fucking title.
SPEAKER_03You know, give me a little more context, I might be able to help you.
SPEAKER_01You know, shut up.
SPEAKER_03Um Graham Budapest.
SPEAKER_01Actually, wait. Can say, I don't have my phone. I don't have my phone. I don't have my phone. Dee dee dee die. Dee die. I don't even know how it's look up for that. Well, you just want to look up Wes Anderson. And then I'm gonna look at this.
SPEAKER_03Were you doing the freaking Incredibles? Incredibles. Is that what I heard?
SPEAKER_01Bra bada. I want to say yes. Fantastic Mr.
SPEAKER_03Fox, Royal Tenon Bombs Islands.
SPEAKER_01So I am correct, it was not Grand Budapest.
SPEAKER_03I just remember being like Ooh, that's the Netflix one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The short with uh with Benedict as the lead. I love it's like a short short, it's 40 minutes long.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was a shorter movie. So I was like, but I remember like because I Grand Budapest is something that I is on my list of like I need to watch.
SPEAKER_03Um you haven't seen if you like this, you'll really like Grand Budapest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I just I love Wes Anderson. That is my favorite direction. It's my favorite direction. He's interesting. Whoa, really?
SPEAKER_03Favorite director, but none of his movies were on your top five movies of all time?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know what I said.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01I know what I said. You know, I'm a big actor person. I'm a big story person.
SPEAKER_03So you're saying his acting and story or subpub?
SPEAKER_01No, I'm talking about literal actors. Wes Anderson's not acting in his own films.
SPEAKER_03Thankfully.
SPEAKER_01Um probably be nice to the man.
SPEAKER_03I don't like when directors are in their own films, having cameoed in my own film before, but you know.
SPEAKER_01Anyways, um that film. Um they they're no, they're talking the entire fucking time. They're narrating the entire movie as they're doing it. Everything that's very there is not a fucking break where I'm like, oh, these bitches had to learn their lines.
SPEAKER_03Like this is a play.
SPEAKER_05Interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Crazy. Similar one.
SPEAKER_03So I have been writing a feature the last week since I saw you last. Whoa. Wow.
SPEAKER_01Hello.
SPEAKER_03Just you know, the mind does what it does. Nope. Oh brand new idea came to me.
SPEAKER_01Waiting to be like, which idea do I know about?
SPEAKER_03Totally brand new idea that came to me a week ago, and I'm 30 pages in now. So is it a musical? No, it's not a musical.
SPEAKER_01I was like, write a musical. This is in the this is just in the idea for a musical.
SPEAKER_03This is how I get to my what I've been watching this week. Um I wrote a bunch of pages.
SPEAKER_01I was like, I haven't watched anything, I just watched my fucking screen go up. Screen typing, type.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, type, type, type, type, type. Mainly that. Hey, you know, I wrote, yeah, I wrote for hours on Monday and Friday. But anyways, this weekend I was like doing research for the film a little bit, so I went back and watched some films that are in kind of like the same vein of what I'm writing about. Um, and I had seen one of them, but I hadn't seen it since it came out, and then I hadn't seen the other one. So I'll talk about both of them. Have you guys seen Manchester by the Sea?
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh, it's been a long time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. Michelle Williams. Michelle Williams. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I did.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't I saw it when it came out in 2016. Yeah. I remember it being heavy. Yes. And oh my god, is it heavy? I cried three different times. It's heavy, but like so good.
SPEAKER_05It's such a good, very good.
SPEAKER_03Very, very well written and acted. Um the pacing is like just grueling. It just like it just it kind of cuts away from like traditional end of scenes, and it like it'll start midway through a scene or it'll cut away before you might think to the next scene. And I really like the editing pace that it does there. And then just like the absolute brutality of grief and like KCF like dealing with spoilers, uh, you know, unintentionally killing his kids, you know, unintentionally leaving the fire out and burning down his house and killing his kids and trying to shoot himself in the in the police station, if you guys remember that whole sequence. It's so hard to watch, but it's so good. Anyways, super lighthearted and lovely film. I I'm not writing a happy film if you couldn't tell. Yeah, that was.
SPEAKER_01You never do.
SPEAKER_03Revealed itself a little bit.
SPEAKER_01What was the second one? Name one. Name one.
SPEAKER_03My movie about the deaf guy ends happy.
SPEAKER_01No, it doesn't.
SPEAKER_03He loves her even through his you know. Can he hear anymore? Nobody still comes to listen. Listen.
SPEAKER_01Not a happy not a single happy story out of this.
SPEAKER_03He comes to see her sing even though he can't hear her anymore.
SPEAKER_01None. Not even many, not even like one time. I have a happy story. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03Shut the fuck up in the back.
SPEAKER_01Why?
SPEAKER_03I haven't written it yet.
SPEAKER_01We were, it was COVID, and we were like in our apartment, and we were like, fuck it, let's make something, and it was still fucking sad.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, it was a horror. And you were grieving your dead boyfriend who was haunting you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. We watched Haunting at Hill House and we were like, I love watching ghosts everywhere. What if we could do that?
SPEAKER_03What if we I found that footage not that long ago? Is it as bad as I remember? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was COVID. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. We were too long.
SPEAKER_03We were just fucking around.
SPEAKER_01We were literally just fucking around with an iPhone.
SPEAKER_03I just wanted to practice some camera shit and you wanted to act.
SPEAKER_01I like just being in front of a camera. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, that's a good one. Okay, so the other film that I watched um was an early Denisville New film that I hadn't seen yet. Uh, Enemy. I don't know if you know this one. This is his first English film, I believe. Before this, it was all French. Because he's from uh French Canada, like Quebec. Um, so this is Jake Gillen Hall.
SPEAKER_01Um is like the only like can you pronounce that country in one more time?
SPEAKER_03Quebec Quebec.
SPEAKER_01Quebec?
SPEAKER_04It's Quebec, but Quebec.
SPEAKER_03I know you're what you're saying.
unknownQuebec.
SPEAKER_04Is it actually pronounced?
SPEAKER_03Pretty sure it's Quebec. Quebec.
SPEAKER_01There's no way.
SPEAKER_03Pretty sure. I could be wrong. Hey. It could be. Hey, if you know in the comments, say something.
SPEAKER_01I've never heard anyone.
SPEAKER_03I've heard both.
SPEAKER_01I've only heard Quebec.
SPEAKER_03That's fair. But also we are American. I would always I figured I would take your word for it because you do speak French, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_01It starts with a Q. I know.
SPEAKER_03I'm aware of how to spell it. Anyways.
SPEAKER_01Q U E.
SPEAKER_03You want to be looking up. You want me to look this up now?
SPEAKER_01Anyways, enemy. Sorry, my bad.
SPEAKER_03Enemy. Okay, so I really like Denis Villeneuve. Um his earlier work, and I've seen this is like the third or fourth of his earlier films that I've seen, is very it's the same kind of feeling you get. It's the same like atmosphere you get from his newer stuff, but his newer stuff is a bit more um, I don't know refined. It feels like the wrong word, but uh maybe that's not the wrong word. Uh obviously the budgets are higher in the newer stuff. Um, so the visuals are more, you know, nice to look at, I guess you could say. Yeah. Um, but like the pacing is definitely still just kind of his style and like the feeling you get and the atmosphere and the sound design, it's all very much still him. So Enemy is about a guy who basically discovers that he has another guy that looks identical to him. Like identical, sounds like him, looks like him. He's like this kind of loser college teacher that has like no friends, is kind of a weirdo. Uh, and then like the doppelganger is like a successful actor and like has this pretty girlfriend that like is like happy and blah blah blah blah blah. Like um, and he basically starts following him and like from afar, and like then eventually they meet and yes, they switch but against his will.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Actor actor isn't very uh nice. Anyways, I could spoil the ending for you if you want, but I think there's a cool symbolism. Okay, cool. There it has a lot to do with like toxic masculinity and like um men's desire for uh lust and sex. It definitely talks about that a bit. What's that? I didn't hear what your question was.
SPEAKER_01Talks about it in a way that points out that it's a problem.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it definitely doesn't make it uh a joyful time.
SPEAKER_01Got it. Cool. That was like we're not glorifying this.
SPEAKER_03It's not glorified at all. Do you like spiders?
unknownNot really.
SPEAKER_03There is more than one thing. There is a thematic thing with spiders or a symbolic thing with spiders. They definitely have a symbolism with spiders in this movie. Creepy that represent, you know, exactly what I just described. Like the movie opens with a spider crawling on a naked woman.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_03Basically. Or a spider next to a naked woman. I don't care about it. Oh, so yeah, whatever. Yeah. Anyways, uh Villeneuve, yes. And then he did Prisoners like a few months later.
SPEAKER_05So I still haven't seen that.
SPEAKER_03You need to rewatch it, and you should totally watch it.
SPEAKER_05I've heard good things.
SPEAKER_03It's hard to watch, but it's good. What's up? It's Hugh Jackman's in it. Hugh Jackman, yeah, and Jake Drillen Hall, yeah. Apparently it's Galen Hall, but everyone says Jrillen Hall, so how you actually Galen Hall, I think.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03I'm probably butchering the pronunciation.
SPEAKER_01As in Gayvon?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01But like the same front way?
SPEAKER_03Galen Hall, yeah.
SPEAKER_01French. Whoa, whoa, whoa. French?
SPEAKER_03Swedish? French? I don't know. European. Jalen Hall doesn't sound European, let's just say that.
SPEAKER_01No, but it sounds like one of those things that you do as an actor.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I wouldn't know. It's grandy, not grand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, not grande.
SPEAKER_05Is it really? Yeah. She said that once, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then everyone was just like, no fucking way. Shut up.
SPEAKER_03But we could have been saying that. Honestly, someone should have corrected us. I'm I'm willing to pronounce your name correctly.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but she was okay. She was cosplaying, you know what I mean? Alright, alright. She was she was giving us Latina Grande for a long time. Stop! I love her, that's my mother. Oh my god. I could say that anymore. Lord in heaven. I I would like to pose a question in that I want to know scenes from movie musicals that you guys love. If any come to mind. Because I I have one already, so I'll give you time by saying it. Um there's a scene in the in the heights movie adaptation where the characters of Benny and Ina sing When the Sun Goes Down and they dance on the side of an apartment building. And I think that that moment captured so well the feel of the song, of the story at the at that point in time, and also like perfectly highlighted the beauty that they see in their neighborhood and in their community. And I just that that scene will always kind of stick with me as one of my favorite moments in a movie musical.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna watch In the Heights today because I haven't seen it, and it's not available on any streaming platform. Dang, it was like Netflix. Not a single one. I was like, I I sat down like after I was off work while I waited for you all.
SPEAKER_01You had to watch it because you were in it.
SPEAKER_03I I literally went to do it today. I sat down, I gave myself time to do it. At least you try it. I I was like, all right, they're coming at seven. I it's three o'clock, I'm gonna watch a movie. No, I'm not. All right, I'm gonna watch Enemy instead. That's literally what I did. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04Damn. Damn, damn, damn, damn. It's not even on HBO.
SPEAKER_03No, it's not on, it's available for rental, but I was like, I don't want to spend money. No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, that's fair.
SPEAKER_03And I'm like, it's gonna be back on a streaming service at some point next month or the month after. I'll watch it. Just like just check it out.
SPEAKER_05It is different. It's quite different than the stage version. Okay. I prefer the stage version.
SPEAKER_03Um I haven't seen that either.
SPEAKER_01So going in. We had a perfect opportunity for you.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_05Did I have a show for you, buddy?
SPEAKER_01We're gonna see him again. Don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_05We're manifesting that you will be seeing me in the very, very soon. It'll happen. In New York City. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then you're gonna watch the space. And then you're gonna come and then you're gonna come and watch.
SPEAKER_03I'm happy to come and watch. Yeah, I appreciate it. Has anyone oh wait, no? Words, scenes from musicals that you like.
SPEAKER_01You want me to go?
SPEAKER_03You can go.
SPEAKER_01I have funny enough, even though, and we're gonna talk about it because just a little bit in Dear Evan Hansen.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01It's not my favorite. No, no, no, it's not, it's not my favorite. It's not the one this only like small thing sticks with me. Um it's um she also plays Abby in The Last of Us. Oh yes, Caitlin Deaver. Yes, she has a moment where she's driving and she is like speeding up and lets go of the wheel. I do about this. I think about that every time I'm in the car and I'm singing a little too passionately. Um, yeah, yeah, or just where I'm like, that is so it's so it's brave, but in a scary way, in a concerning way. It's brave, it's it's a concerning type of brave that you were so fucked up in your feelings that you were like, actually, what if I did let go of the steering wheel and I kept my foot on the pedal? And to watch someone do it, that's that's a lot, and then be like, I changed my mind, I'm hitting the brakes. Um that's that stuck with me. Um Dear Evan Hansen is not unfortunately.
SPEAKER_05But I don't think that it would have been bad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's just that uh as beautiful as Ben Platt originated the role, he should not have been cast. Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_05It just didn't work, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Um, what does absolutely wreck me, throws me to the fucking wall every single goddamn time.
SPEAKER_05Good lord.
SPEAKER_01Is the color purple when when Cynthia sings I'm here, oh yeah, not just on stage.
SPEAKER_05But um, yeah, but this moment on on stage is magnificent.
SPEAKER_01Every time she sings it, it fucks me up.
SPEAKER_05That was my first introduction to Cynthia Revo was back when I was a senior in high school, and the color purple musical came up on my radar, and her singing the fin not technically finale song, but basically her final song, 11 o'clock number, if you will. Um, it's called I'm Here. If you've never heard it, go change your life. Because Cynthia Revo, as we all know, is in she'll do that to you. She'll do that too. And she does it to you in that song.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, brings me to tears every single fucking time. Yes. Where it's like it's moves you for sure. I don't even know if I'd say it's like comical. It's like, um I had a friend that like if we were in the car and we would just be like singing whatever song, like it would let's say that like we're having such a good, happy, fun time. I'm singing, I'm singing the hosier, I'm singing the Renee rap, right? And then I just hear the piano and I instantly start crying. And he would do yeah, yeah, oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Not a single lyric has been uttered, and you're already in tears.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, it's beautiful to be. He would do that on purpose just to fuck with me.
SPEAKER_05The music of the color purple, the musical is some of my favorite music I've ever heard. It is so stunning. Unfortunately, the movie musical version cuts out a lot of that, which is really unfortunate. It does it, it unfortunately is why the movies gotta do that. Well, that's that's the thing. Uh bitches maybe we should well wait. Actually, I haven't gotten a movie musical to see from yet.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, I have a few. Like the one that comes to mind right off the bat is the stupid iconic uh singing in the rain.
SPEAKER_05Of course. That's not true. Of course, you know. That's it deserves to be said.
SPEAKER_03It's fun. Um for me, I always love Adel Vies in Sound of Music, which is like super soft and intimate. Like the one the lullaby. Just the lullaby, not the one at the end.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, and then what isn't the other one? Um, I mean, the Lala Land opening is fun. That's fun. So good. So good. Um, and then um, what the heck is that? This is me from um I was gonna say what the greatest showman is.
SPEAKER_01When we said fucking Hugh Jackman earlier, and I just sat there being like the greatest showman. Greatest showman, someone say it. I have to say this. Not just this is me, oh my god, from now. I mean Oh my god, rewrite this.
SPEAKER_03I just the one with him and uh Zach and the Bar on the other side. Yeah. Let's be honest, there's not a miss on that soundtrack.
SPEAKER_04That soundtrack is yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't love the movie as a whole, isn't awesome, but the music is. I fucking love it. It's good. It's it's not it's good not great.
SPEAKER_01Pete Barnum was a bitch for fucking Right. That's that's the problem. But but also like you know, she she kissed him, he wasn't doing this whole thing, but that is just a fucking mess, and that he really would sell his life for money. And also, it's not the only story about PT Barnum. Um it's just the nicer version.
SPEAKER_03Fair.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05But the musical numbers and pace up and calls the right. Fucking god, they're amazing. Yeah, well done. And they they deserve glad we all fell.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's a movie musical that fucking gets in every time.
SPEAKER_05The this is me scene for sure will give me chills. Um especially when they're they're they're dancing forward and the people are and I mean never enough enough is also good. Never enough is definitely rewrite the stars was fun. That was just fun. I didn't ever see you don't I don't think I'd seen anything like that before. Like with the trapeze and all that, yeah. Musical moment and it's fun. It worked.
SPEAKER_03It did, it definitely worked.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that that one does a lot of great movie.
SPEAKER_03Just another musical moment.
SPEAKER_01Oh yes. Every reason to fall in love with Zendaya.
SPEAKER_03Anzac Ephron.
SPEAKER_01Right. It was Anzac and good old Zach. Women.
SPEAKER_05Also, royalty.
SPEAKER_01Happy Pride, bitch.
SPEAKER_05If we talk about it. What's good old Zach Efron? Close enough. High school musical. Listen, we are we were so close to finishing the episode without mentioning it.
SPEAKER_01High school musical. Cameron. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_05I also like I probably should have said this like way before, but I also I got to complete a very big team of mine.
SPEAKER_01So are we gonna talk about it? Are you gonna shameless plug this right now? Yeah, because we're talking about it.
SPEAKER_05I didn't want to pressure you at all, but I thought about it. I'm like, I definitely should mention this. I I was lucky enough to be cast in an original movie musical called Saturday. It's um What can you tell us? I can tell you a lot. There's like a press release and everything, so I can tell you.
SPEAKER_01I was like, it's not totally I was like, not not don't break it down. No, you can't like either what can you say? You're not the first one saying it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, like it's out there. Um, and I play a character named David Valentine, who is I lovely oh my god, I can't speak. I love to describe him as your favorite theater kid's favorite theater kid. Oh, he's just like an epitome of musical theater and being a lover of it and everything that comes with that, the good and the bad. Um but that was pretty congratulations. Thank you. That's awesome. Um and it and it and it borrows a vibe of high school musical where it's it's set in a high school and is about high school students. Um but yeah. SAT is very fun. SAT. SAT or day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's we'll have to have you back on the show when it gets closer to that time and uh more promo. Promote it, and maybe we'll have a larger audience by then too.
SPEAKER_05It was like the whole time. I was like, I this should be said. We're talking, we're the episodes about movie music. Movie musicals. It's like we did this for you or something. But I wanted it.
SPEAKER_01I'm so happy you said it.
SPEAKER_05If you've made it this far, thank you for doing so.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_05This is our longest episode.
SPEAKER_01And we're gonna keep it that way.
SPEAKER_03I'm not surprised.
SPEAKER_05You can make some cuts.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna I'm gonna cut out maybe two minutes. Like damn.
SPEAKER_05It's gonna be pauses, really. Girl, we got ourselves a euphoria episode today.
SPEAKER_03It's usually like around an hour that I'm like aiming for. So if we're under, but if we're over my little bit. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, then I don't want to keep you. Is it your your closing moments?
SPEAKER_03I think that's all we got.
SPEAKER_01Does anybody else have anything else to say?
SPEAKER_05What we're currently watching or anything?
SPEAKER_01We did that.
SPEAKER_05We did that. We did that. Unless you have more diagnosis. I just want to talk about more because I'm watching hacks. We're finishing season five, final season amazing. Euphoria, we're finishing it up. Um The Boys, we're finishing that up. I think those are my main ones. I just finished Invincible, the last season.
SPEAKER_01See, how did what'd you think? He you haven't seen it. Nah. You're a bitch. Anyways, what'd you think?
SPEAKER_05I thought I thought it I think it's always great. I think it was a little bit though I was kind of like, okay, Sekwoids again, the Martian people again. The it was just like everybody, everything came back again for like the third time, and it was like, all right, y'all.
SPEAKER_01Let's you guys need to start killing people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I was like, let's at least let's get it.
SPEAKER_01I love our innocent nature.
SPEAKER_05Let's do something else.
SPEAKER_01But I think we might have to start killing people. Um, but I I do think where not to give any spoilers, I do think where they left it. I'm literally like, well, you're fucked.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to s I don't know how you're gonna fix this. I don't know if you can fix this. So you're just um fucked.
SPEAKER_05I do want to say also before we end, even though this is crazy long already, but it's okay, baby. I would love to say just I think the power of musicals is obviously it's music, and music is so moving, and it can really like score, even when you just look at score, like how much score impacts the emotional impact that a scene will give you. And I think musicals do that in in not I'm not gonna say necessarily a better way, it's just a different way where hearing somebody sing as as lovely as everybody loves to be about musicals these days, where it's just a new personality trait to hate them for some stupid reason. I don't know why. We all grew up on Disney and we loved it. Why are we acting like we hate it now? But whatever. Spiteful bitches. I think ballet's the worst, you know. Hey God, like why what are we doing? And just doing opera, like, oh my god. Uh the basics, literally the foundation, the pillars of of art form. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03Um getting cast in a Phantom of the Opera remake, which is the funniest time. Oh, everybody would be the best thing ever. What's the other guy's gonna be able to do that? She's the one that goes up with Rachel Raoul. Raoul, yeah. Oh, him getting cast as Raul. He has to sing that right now.
SPEAKER_01Everyone would have to go and see it though at the same time. Like I would actually then be able to Well, I know um that that um Timothy Chalamet is currently learning. What I heard is that he is currently learning ballet for a role in Billy Elliott.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05Good for you, I guess. It feels like karma just a little bit.
SPEAKER_01I don't even know if it's karma. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03But it just feels like it's funny.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, it definitely is funny. It's funny.
SPEAKER_05Um I just wanted to lament on the power of musicals and why I think I love them so much, is just they just make you feel something. And it's it's just human nature to what you feel, and music does that so well to you. It does.
SPEAKER_01It's like tell them that it's human nature.
SPEAKER_05We are in an era of Michael Jackson. Uh as well. Welcome back, Michael. And yeah, I just I just hope that I'm making movies.
SPEAKER_03You gotta watch.
SPEAKER_05I want to make a musical one day.
SPEAKER_01You should.
SPEAKER_05That's quite the task.
SPEAKER_01That is not what I thought. I do have an I thought. No, I do have an idea for a musical, and neither of you are gonna like it. What? Because of the Taylor Swift jukebox music.
SPEAKER_03And with that, thank you for watching. Thank you for being on the show, Adam. It was great having you. I think you're you're very well spoken about this. I wonder how well spoken you'd be about non-musical movies and TV, but it seems like you're pretty well versed. So we'd love to have you back. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And we have a microphone.
SPEAKER_03I feel like, yeah, we'll see how, if if we get any feedback on this. But I think this was great. Uh it was nice having you on.
SPEAKER_05Thank you guys. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_03Give us any feedback, people of the internet, if you guys like this. You know where to find us. YouTube and Apple Podcasts. That'll do it.
SPEAKER_01That's a wrap. Bye.