13: Raw, Real & Becoming: The Stories That Shaped Us

In this episode of The Ageless Woman Podcast, Dr. Cindy Grow, founder of My Venus Club in Ocala, Florida, sits down with Lauren, Movement Medicine Specialist, and Brianna, Registered Dietitian, for a raw, real, unscripted conversation about the personal experiences that shaped who they are — not just as professionals, but as women.

This episode is different from a traditional clinical conversation. It is honest girl talk about life, growth, health, body image, resilience, purpose, womanhood, and the seasons that change us. Cindy, Lauren, and Brianna share the moments, struggles, lessons, and personal stories that influenced how they see women’s wellness, healing, strength, nutrition, movement, self-trust, and becoming.

Every woman has a story. And sometimes the experiences that feel hard, messy, painful, or unexpected become the very things that give us deeper compassion, stronger purpose, and a clearer voice.

In this episode, we talk about:

• The personal stories that shape who we become as women
• Why health is more than labs, protocols, nutrition, or exercise
• How life experiences influence body image, self-worth, and confidence
• Why women need honest conversations, not perfect answers
• How movement, nourishment, mindset, and self-trust are connected
• Why healing can begin when one woman tells the truth and another says, “me too”
• What it means to keep becoming through every season of life

If you are a woman in Ocala, Central Florida, Florida, Iowa, Colorado, or beyond who is navigating midlife, health changes, personal growth, hormone shifts, body changes, burnout, identity, purpose, or the desire to feel more connected to yourself, this episode is for you.

At My Venus Club, we believe women deserve to be seen as whole people — not just symptoms, numbers, hormones, or diagnoses. Women’s health is personal. It is physical, emotional, metabolic, hormonal, cellular, relational, and deeply connected to the stories we carry.

This conversation is for the woman who wants to feel seen, heard, encouraged, and reminded that her story matters.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Welcome to the Ageless Women Podcast, where modern science meets timeless self-care for limitless vitality. I'm Dr. Cindy Growe, a board certified nurse practitioner and the founder of My Venus Club. This is a space for women who are ready to understand what's actually happening in their bodies and finally get real answers. If you've been told your labs are normal that this is just a part of aging, or that you just need to try harder, and if you've sat through those 15-minute appointments, left with just another prescription to manage symptoms, or maybe you feel like you've lost a part of yourself, you're in the right place. Before we begin, just a quick note this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to replace personalized medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult with your healthcare provider regarding your individual health needs. Here we go deeper. We connect the dots between your hormones, your metabolism, your genetics, and your lifestyle so you can stop guessing and start feeling like yourself again. So let's get started. Today's episode is going to be a little different, and honestly, I'm really excited about it. I'm here with Lauren, our movement medicine specialist, and Brianna, our registered dietitian, and we're having a raw, real girl talk about the experiences that shaped who we are, not just professionally, but personally as women. We're going to talk about the moments, lessons, struggles, seasons that changed how we see our health, our bodies, our purpose, and ourselves as women. It's an honest, it's a real, open conversation. And my hope is that as you listen, you feel like you're sitting right here with us because every woman has a story. And those stories are often the very thing that shape how we heal, grow, lead, and become the woman we are. So ready, girls? Yeah. All right. Let's get started. So let's see. I guess I can start first. Gosh, how many years do I want to go back? Oh my gosh, it's a loaded question. Okay. So what brought me to really focus on health and wellness? Oh gosh, I was maybe 19 a solid 25 years ago, I think. Yeah. Um, so my kids were going off to college, and I had this crazy idea that I was wanting to have another baby. So I my husband at the time, I've been divorced since then, but my husband at the time, we got pregnant, but I miscarried. And so this happened a couple times. And when you go through something like that, it really changes who you are and how you look at yourself as a woman. I found out that I had Hashimoto's at the time. So then I really started diving into my health and wellness with my husband at the time. And that really just took me to a different place. I also, at that time, the kids were heading off to college. So I was going through empty nest syndrome. My grandparents would come down and visit and stay with me. And I lost my grandmother. She passed away, um, got really sick, and um, that was very devastating for me, too. So we didn't see that coming. Again, it was a very quick, unexpected death uh related to heart disease. So those events really started to shape the way I thought about my own health um as well as my family's health. And so it really puts it into um perspective when you lose a baby and you lose someone that you love so um so much. So my journey really started there. What about you guys?

SPEAKER_02 4:35

You want me to go? Go ahead. Okay. Um so mine was more of um just a just a flip over from nursing because I was originally like a nurse, I was gonna go into nursing when in college. And uh I interned with a with a doctor one year, and I had to step out of the room when he was doing sutures, stitches, because I started getting lightheaded. Oh, and so then I realized, well, maybe this isn't for me. And I was maybe two years, two and a half years into college at this point already. So I went to my guidance counselor and I asked, you know, what can I do to still kind of be in this field, but and not have to take a bunch of class over classes over again. But what kind of road can I take to um stay in the healthcare industry? And she had recommended dietetics, and it seemed really fun. Um, so many different avenues that you could go down. Uh, but but because I did like the clinical aspect, I stuck with that. Um, I worked in the hospital for uh almost 15 years until um COVID happened, and then after COVID, a lot of doors opened up for dietitians as far as being able to work outside of the hospital. Um so even telehealth or remote working was more of an option for me. And then I think as you go through life stages, your interest kind of changes. So definitely in the past five years, when I recognized within myself that um I wasn't getting the results I wanted from my workouts, and um I wasn't getting the answers I wanted from physicians and things like that. I started to look more into um the hormone aspect of it. But then I mean, I didn't even know the difference between progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen. Like I I had no idea. It's quite complex. Um so again, just learning so much in the past five years about aging, women's health, how your hormones affect every aspect of your body. It's been really fascinating. Uh, and now I think that personal attachment to it really makes a difference as well. Oh, yeah, when you have that personal experience.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Yeah. What about you, Lauren?

SPEAKER_03 7:01

You're in the hot seat. Okay. So mine really started um when my kids were little. I just remember thinking, you know, having conversations with other women. Like we're all so busy when our kids are little, and we we all, most women that I talk to feel like they put themselves on the back burner. You know, everything else comes first. You're tending to the kids and the house and the husband and all the things, other family members that need whatever it is they need. And I just remember telling myself, you know, when Lila goes to school, I'm gonna really start focusing on my health and I'm gonna join the gym and I'm gonna start working out and doing the things. And at that, around that time, I um I had just switched my milk to organic milk. It was like my first change. And I had gotten rid of my coffee make creamer, and that was a big deal because I had that every morning for years.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

So I that was kind of where I started, and then from there it just escalated, and then um, here I am.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

Oh, I I love that, and there's so much more, but that's gosh, now that you say that, I guess my health journey was many years before then, because I remember graduating high school, and my whole family smoked at that time back in the early 80s. Everyone smoked, and I just remember like, oh, I just hated it. I I just could not get my family to stop smoking. My parents, my grandparents, everyone was smoking all the time. They would smoke picking us up from school with the windows rolled up. And I just remember disliking that so much, and nobody worked out. And so that's I remember I joined the gym and I was started working out then. Yes, I have a kind of a story.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

I I one year I asked for a membership to the gym for Christmas. I was like, that's what I wanted. Because same, my family smoked. I actually smoked. Um, I never smoked. I'm so grateful that I don't, but I hated it. Like I hated going to school smelling like cigarettes, they didn't work out, we didn't eat healthy. Like, and I I remember craving like fresh food. Yeah, your body craves things fruit and stuff because I thought we needed it. Yeah. So yes, interesting. But then it really launched later when my kids were little, and I had said to myself, I remember thinking to myself, I want to be my best self. Yes, and I want to see what that person looks like, and that is how it started for me.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Yeah, I yes, it's so true. We always want to be our best selves. And there, and I mean, to be real honest too, there's vanity there for me. I mean, so you know, I like to feel good and look good, and so that was a big driver behind a lot of like, okay, I want to work out, I want to keep myself fit, I want to keep my weight in check. So there's a lot of um vanity as a young woman that drove a lot of the decisions that I made about my health and wellness. And then as I got older, and then with my kids, um, again, like you said, as a woman, you're just so focused on running the household, taking care of your husband, your children, you're last on the list, you're not really thinking about it. And then fast forward 10, 15, 18 years, and then the kids are leaving the home, and then you really start to think about yourself at that point. I think a lot of women do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Yeah. Well, luckily I started before they left the house.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

I started when they started pre-K.

unknown 10:39

That's so good.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Well, one of mine was that I wanted to be a good example for them. We wanted to be like, I wanted them to see you know, fitness as a priority in my life. Just like I wanted them to see my career as a priority in my life. I wanted them to see that these are all things that are important to you, and you know having integrity, being proud of yourself and like humility and all of that kind of stuff. Like those are things that I wanted them to see. So I always believed that the best thing was through example.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to be that person that is do as I say, don't do as I do. Right. So you've got to talk the talk and walk the walk, especially be that example for your children.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

But I do like what you said about because I I think a lot of times making the switch it can be so overwhelming for people.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

It can be anxiety at first. Oh, yeah. I remember sitting in the chair getting my hair done, and like we were talking about organic food. And I just remember my body being like so anxious because I felt like I had to do it all at one time, or it wasn't doing anything at all. And then I remember having the conversation with my hairdresser at the time, and she was like, Lauren, just do one thing at a time. Right, don't overwhelm yourself. And that's when, you know, is it the milk? It was the milk and X. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Because then you're more likely to keep it and sustain it, create that habit. And then, like, once you've done that for a month, two months, whatever it takes, then add in another habit and exactly and make it part of your lifestyle and not just like a fat that you do.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

Yeah, and the milk was big for me because I was like, I don't want my my daughter drinking milk with all the hormones and like starting her. No, it's too soon and all of the things. Yes. Yeah, a lot of it has to do with your children watching you and setting an example because teaching them. I want my daughter to learn that it's okay to put herself and her health first so that she can take care of other people. Because if she's not okay, how can she take care of other people? Yes. So, yeah, if she sees me doing that, hopefully please do that for yourself.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

No, it's so true. Because it is hard for women. We again put ourselves lowest on the priority list.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Yes, and for my son to see, you know, and your son to see this is how like it's okay for a woman to do this.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Well, and I think too, one thing that's happened in your life, and just because I know about I've known you for a long time, is that um your son sees you as a business owner as well. And so now he owns a business and he's branching out into more businesses. And you know, I mentioned this to you last night that I feel like you should be really proud of what your kids are doing, even though it's so sad whenever they leave to and go off and be adults. But the fact that he's out there and trying new things and not afraid, being brave, courageous. Um, I think that that has a lot to do with the example that you set for them. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

You're checking.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

It is true, it really is.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

And that's what I tell a lot of parents like that are so sad when their kids graduate or leave for college. And I'm like, that's what they're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

And yeah, it's such a proud moment.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yes, but it doesn't make it, it doesn't make it hard any less. It doesn't make it hurt less. That's a transition for I mean, for me, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:12

It's hit me harder than I it is a transition, but it is a very proud moment. My kids are all very proud and also because it's that you've given them all the tools, and now they're gonna use those tools and make good decisions, and you're gonna be so proud of them. It's really exciting. It's really exciting to see your kids go off and become adults and then get married and have to be able to do it. And you know what? He sent me everything he bought at the grocery store.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Oh boy, it was all healthy, and he was so proud of it. Oh, that's the first grocery store trip. See what impact you've had on him. Yes, I know that's wonderful. The first thing he wanted to buy was a Brita to filter the water, and I was like, my job here is done.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

That's so good. I think he smiled. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Uh my heart smiled when my daughter was in, she lived in the dorm last year, college. And she said one of the things that she disliked the most about living in the dorm was not having the kitchen to cook her own food.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

And I was like, oh, you want to cook your own food? Like you don't want to go to Chick-fil-A every day or Einstein bagel.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Like it's great that you want, I think that she wanted to eat healthy and cook her food.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

That's so good. So they learn, they learn, and then they'll teach, you'll see so much of yourself in your kids, and then you'll see them as parents once they start having children. It's so exciting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Well, even to their friends, and you know, I see them like say, No, I can't have that, or I don't eat that.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

They're they're an example to their friends, which is also wonderful. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love that. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's exciting to know expensive to keep them all.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Oh when they eat all my grass-fed beef.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yeah, it is expensive and teenagers, especially, but it's so worth it. Yeah, it's so worth it. And it goes by so fast.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

Will you pay for it now or you pay for it later?

SPEAKER_00 16:18

That's it. Absolutely. Oh, it's so true. Yeah, so true. If you don't give them the tools and you don't invest in your children emotionally, physically, financially, then you're right. You will be caring for them and and it they'll be floundering and they won't have the tools that they need because it's a harsh world out there. Well, it's not easy.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

You said that last night to the women at the event, just even even us now at 40, 40, 47, 60, yeah, 30. You know, we're talking to 30-year-olds. It's like invest in yourself now.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

You have to, you have to. That brings me to a really great point. I wanted to talk about last night, and I didn't. I thought about it this morning when I was having some coffee after my workout. But um, I thought about like what really drives my passion when I'm talking to women. I'm so like passionate about them, thinking about their health and wellness. And I thought about some of the women there last night. And so I think about my journey. And so starting out as a nurse, being in the hospital, then moving to get my master's, my doctorate. And I've been in every healthcare setting, whether it's been a primary care office, whether it's been a hospice setting, whether it's been assisted living facility, memory care, hospital, acute care, chronic care, uh, long-term care facilities, rehab. And I just saw, and the women, men too, and the impact their choices over the years had had on their health, how that impacted their family and their loved ones. And and I say the word burden respectfully and lightly, but it also just made me think over the years, like I don't want to be that person on my family. And I see the fine family dynamics. It's very difficult on family members to take on that emotional responsibility, that caregiving role, which I've done myself as well over the years with family members and then the financial burden too. And I just thought, you know, that's why it's so important. If you don't do it for yourself, do it for your loved ones in your family. Because if what you do now is going to determine your quality of life as you age, and it's never too never too late to make changes, but you've got to think about that. And um, it's reality, it's inevitable. There's not a single person that just goes and lives their life making horrible health decisions and horrible choices that isn't gonna have disease set in. It's just inevitable. So I remember thinking about that. Um, and and that really drove so much of my passion when I talk about it and when I talk about it to patients, because the choices that they make now are gonna determine their quality of life. And quality is very subjective. I get that. Not everybody's quality is the same, right? But still you wanna be able to move, you wanna don't want to ache and and be miserable and um you know your family worrying about you and caring for you all the time. They've worked all their lives, their kids are gone off, and now your children have to care for you because you didn't make choices, good choices, so to speak. So that did drive a lot of my passion to do what I'm doing now, too, to help women be able to educate them and help them understand how important it is to make good choices.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Yeah. Because I think something that, like, like you said, the quality of life that can be put into more like objective is you know, how many pills do you want to have to take every day? Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

Well, right. That's like it's it's what I was saying about like you pay for it now, or you can pay it later. You can pay for it by eat, you know, working out, having your gym membership, sure, and eating healthy food, or you can pay later to the right pharmaceuticals, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Taking 20 pills a day. Or do you want to have to be on a special diet because of a diagnosis that you never have a brownie again?

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Right. Or a lot of people can't go out to a restaurant because they have to be on a low salt diet.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

So, like restaurant food adds a lot of salt to food.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

It does. Um also, sorry for interrupting Brie. A lot of those people may still go out to the and still go out to the restaurants and still make those bad choices. Um, I saw it so much in the hospital not to digress, especially when it comes to heart failure. Oh, yeah. And it was con, I mean, that's a never-ending problem for any hospital situation, any hospital setting or any um long-term care assisted living, constant turnover in the hospital for heart disease and for heart failure, specifically because it's very lifestyle driven, what you eat. Yes. And um, they're probably thinking they're taking the pills so they can just eat whatever they want. And into their defense, they're not being educated properly. So education, knowledge is power. Well, we that's another whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

I mean, we have world problems to solve.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, and a lot of the stuff I teach and practice in my own practice, I did not learn in nurse practitioner school. I didn't learn in my master's, I didn't learn in my doctorate. I learned the basics. I learned anatomy and anatomy and physiology, biology, chemistry, but I had to go outstep outside of the Box and like really dive into the research and talk to other like-minded clinicians and practitioners and get together and study and learn. Like they don't teach that in school. I'm sure you didn't learn a lot of that as a dietitian. Like you had to kind of step outside the box to learn. So much in practice. Yeah, it's so much in practice.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

There was one year, well, my master's degree, we I did both. So we took classes and I didn't internship at the same time. So it was really great being able to apply what I was learning in class right into the field. Whereas, like, you know, the four years of undergrad, yeah, you didn't really. I might have done like a little internship over the summer for a couple weeks somewhere. But for the most part, it was just memorizing formulas. And because dietetics is such a broad major, I mean, it's everything from like school food service to like working at the health department to clinical. So there's so much that you have to learn.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

And also government regulated all of those things that you just suggested. So you have a lot of rules you have to pass. Yeah. Which is probably would be so frustrating to me because a lot of those things don't really align with the truth.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

No, and the publishing companies that put out the texts that the students in higher education are using, those are influenced also by certain companies. So the food industry is going to be heavily influenced by the food industry, the pharmaceutical industry. So those types of things, they influence the publishing and what goes in certain things, which is horrible to say, but it's the truth. I mean, and that's the reality. And that's what we're learning. And there's only so many hours in the day, and sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Right. And so you have to believe what you're learning is is that's it. That's what that's all we need to know to help people in healthcare. And that is absolutely not all we need to know to help people, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

But I think that um are they trying to make bring nutrition more into like the med school? They are.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

They're talking about making a huge push in getting nutrition, let your food be your medicine. Right. Um, getting back to the basics, teaching physicians, nurse practitioners, PAs, anybody that's going in the healthcare field, nurses, all of them, registered dietitians, really helping us, giving us the foundation and making that foundation be what drives what we think about when we start to care about a patient, care for a patient. And I hopefully we'll see it. Um it's just it's gonna take a while. Long time to get the students educated. I I mean, I so I teach um as a faculty for Purdue University, and I teach masters and doctoral online nurse practitioner students. And so it's a lot to put new things in curriculums. It takes time to change um texts, syllabus, curriculum, what you're gonna teach. And it's just gonna take time.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

And I'm sure that's you don't get um like create that on your own, or like you have a no.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

So we have set texts that we use. We can go, I go outside the box. When I when I hold class, I have um certain things that I go over with the students, but I also interject you have um liberty as a faculty to teach and help. Now, there's certain things that um outcomes and and things that we want the students to learn, you know, throughout the semester. And those are important things that we focus on, but you can also take the liberty to teach about some of these things. So the importance of diet and lifestyle and movement, um, and how to um like I spend a lot of time talking to my students about making that connection with the patient in during the patient interview, like before they even physically touch the patient. Just really connect, how to collect that subjective data, how to build trust, and really how to just build a relationship with your patient. Just start that way and learn how to communicate with the patient. Well, that I would say that's really missing. Yeah. From today's. Oh, it's very much missing.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

There's no relationship.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

I know it's it's really missing. So I really emphasize that a lot with my students. I call them, um, which I learned from a mentor that I highly respect. He's passed on, but um, he always referred to himself, and I think of it this way as a medical detective. And so I talk to my patient, my students a lot about that to consider yourself like a super sleuth with medicine, a medical detective. And, you know, asking a lot of questions and listening to your patients, taking that time is really key. So I think we've we don't do that, you know, we're in this fast pace, you know, 10-minute visits, 15-minute visits, we don't have time. So that's another reason why I like what we're doing because we I have an hour-long visit, an hour and a half visit with patients. And I'm able to take that deep dive and they're able to open up and we're able to really connect and get good information to help us get to the root cause of what we need to be looking at. And it takes time to do that. You can't do that in 10 minutes. No, you really can't. So hopefully, medicine will swing back um the other way. But it's a huge moneymaker. Our healthcare system is such a large part of our GDP. I mean, it's it's a big business. Yeah. So we'll see. Hopefully, it will. But um, it's shaped all of us to some, you know, influenced all of us at some point in our life, our personal health or our family's health, um, to be who we are today and why we do what we do, which is wonderful what we're doing. Truly. I know, I know. All uh in everything. So we we one of the things I thought would be interesting is to open up about um things that impact last. Well, last night I'll digress a little bit. Last night we talked about mindset. And so one of the things I mentioned in last night's um workshop was unresolved hurts. Um, those are things, stressful seasons that we have, um, emotional um traumas that we go through. So all of those things influence our biology. They have real consequences on our biology. And I don't think people realize that women, men, children. Um, and so those are some of the epigenetic things. When I talk about epigenetics, what happens in your environment and how that influences your genes. So, mindset and those things that we go through that happen to us from the time we're small until we grow up, those all influence our health and wellness from our brain to our body. So, and we've all been through um all different types of traumas. Everyone has, nobody has a perfect family or life. I think we've all experienced things that shape our health and our wellness and who we are. And so that's another thing when you're caring for, when I'm caring for a patient, or any of us are talking to a patient, letting giving the patient time to open up about those things too, because that all impacts how we're gonna care for them, how we're going to um talk with them, how we're gonna proceed with their plan of care, testing we might do, we may or may not do things like that. So mindset's really important. And I think we've gotten away from that too in healthcare.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

No, I definitely um that's one of the first things that I take into consideration, even with you know, with training and working with somebody in movement, because I want to know where their head is at before I before I decide what kind of program I'm gonna put them on. Because if I feel like they're gonna get overwhelmed too much, then I will treat them differently than someone that you know might have a healthier mindset in that moment. Sure. The goal is always to pull the person into that healthier mindset, like as the time goes by. So it really is like connecting with people and figuring out what their mind is like before you decide what program is right for them. I think that's that's and we've talked about that before. I think that's what's missing also in um physical fitness um with trainers and things like that. I think they're just you know, it's the one direction for everyone. We're all gonna do this movement, we're all gonna do this, and we're all gonna do this.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

That's a great point because there is no one size fits all. Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

So I think that we just like medicine, you know, and how we're talking about like doctors and the mainstream, it's just everything for everybody. It's it's just you know, check off the box, okay. You guys get the protocol, right? Yeah, text so and and women are it's important to me to connect with the people because I want to know like how are you how is your mind and how are we gonna make this work for you? Because I want you to feel like you're succeeding and I want you to succeed. Yes. So do you find that with diet to all the time?

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Yeah, all the time. I mean, I was just talking to a patient the other day, and she's like, Well, I looked at this diet online, and this is what my husband's supposed to eat. And I was like, You're gonna be really frustrated when I tell you this. But this is an as tolerated diet. I was like, you need to eat something and see how he reacts, and then decide whether or not that food is appropriate for him. Because I was like, some people, just a little backstory, he had intestinal surgery, and it, you know, it all depends on which part of the intestine was taken out, absorption and digestive. Yes, it then does. He he is a diabetic with congested heart failure, so he's already on a low sugar diet, he's already on a fluid restriction with low sodium, he has cancer, so he's about to start chemo that's awful, and he had colon resection. Oh so I told her, I was like, once he starts chemo, please do not worry about his diabetes or his sodium.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

It's like let him eat what he wants.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

But again, it's just that I told her, I was like, the doctor's gonna tell you that this is the diet he needs to follow. The internet's gonna tell you that this is the diet he needs to follow, but his diet really depends on him and how he's feeling that day. And you know, are you guys going out for a walk that day? Does he need a little bit more calories? Are you um, you know, is he in bed? Is he depressed? Is he vomiting? All of those things. And I was like, there's just not one size that fits all. And this is so true with I mean, weight loss with make weight uh management. It's yes, not everybody is a 2,000 calorie day person. No, and it it all really differs on their activity and what they're looking for, especially in women and their cycle, and like, okay, what season of life?

SPEAKER_03 33:27

Yes. Yeah, where what are you going through and what can you handle? What can't you handle today? Like, I have someone that's very low in iron, and it's like, okay, until we get this supplemented, like I'm gonna take a few steps back, a few steps back because I don't want her body's already in the world. I don't want you to completely shut down. Like, we're just gonna go a little bit lighter and move a little bit slower until we get this correct now.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Yeah, so important, so important, and then genetics. That's another whole piece to the puzzle. Nutrigenomics, nutrigenetics. So, all of that impacts, and then of course, nutrition, our gut affects our brain so much. We touched on that last night because our microbiome produced more than 90% of our neurotransmitters, our brain and our gut are constantly communicating with the vagus nerve. So if you have an unhealthy gut, it's gonna be hard to maintain a healthy mindset. So that is really key. And that's what where nutrition really becomes paramount.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

If one part of the bike chain is off, it throws everything else off. Yes, it is really critically and it's not just food and exercise. Like, I mean, we've I've I've been a dietitian for 20 plus years, and for so long it was just food and exercise, food and exercise, and now we're recognizing that it's not just food and exercise. Stress. It's stress, it's sleep, it's hormones, it's um so many things. You know, what you do in the morning versus what you do in the evening and what time you eat, and all the things.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

So your circadian rhythm is very souder bread. You have to have all the ingredients the right way.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

Yes. You do. That's a really good point. And you have to enjoy what you're eating. I tell patients that all the time. So we talk about okay, this is what your genetics are, these are your neutrogenetics, nutrigenomics. Okay, this is what you should be eating, but you need to like these things. So food should be meals, food should be a time that you enjoy. Right. It's you're fueling and nourishing your body, but you don't want to be miserable doing that. So we have a social event. It's a social event for most people.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

No, sometimes it's not, but you want to enjoy you have to be a grown-up and just eat things because they're good for you, not because you love them. Like there's a time that most of the time, yes. But I mean, I think that you know, I'm gonna eat this because this is fuel for my body. Yes, I need to eat. But you can't eat sometimes not every meal forever.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Not every meal forever. And your palate's gonna change too. Your palate definitely changes. So you'll start as you start to incorporate more nutritious whole foods, you'll notice your palate will change. You won't even want to go for a fast food, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

You're thinking of fitness.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Like you can't tell everybody to run a marathon. No, you have to find something that you like so that they'll do it. Yes, you have to enjoy movement, you have to enjoy food. Yeah, because if I don't know you as a patient or as a person and what you enjoy doing, then I can't prescribe, you know, a fitness program to you. I can't prescribe the nutrition plan. Right. They have to enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

I mean, especially if they're gonna implement it into their daily lifestyle. It has to be something that they're gonna enjoy. Right. So it's a habit. It's like getting up brushing your teeth. Oh, I'm gonna go eat this, or oh, I'm gonna go do this for movement. Yeah. You have to enjoy what you're doing, you have to enjoy what you're eating.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Yeah. So I'll ask, like, who does the grocery shopping? Who does the cooking? Who are you cooking for? Are you cooking for young kids? Is it just you and your husband? Are you cooking for only yourself? Are you cooking for extended family? Um, you know, how do you feel about leftovers and meal prep? And I mean, I know some people who will not eat leftovers.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

So they don't want to make meal prep because I love leftovers. I love sushi.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

I love leftovers too, but I know a lot of people that don't like leftovers. The only thing I won't eat leftovers is sushi.

unknown 37:30

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

You know what's great though? My neighbor doesn't like leftovers. So whenever he cooks too much, he always brings it over to me. Stop.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

He's like, I have an extra plate of food for you. Oh, you're the best neighbor. That's the best neighbor.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's just you have to know the whole aspect of the person in order to provide them with the best plan. Yeah. And something that is sustainable and enjoyable.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

That's what's wrong with basically everything. People just aren't connecting.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

No, we're not, we're not. So to switch gears a little bit, I guess we could just touch on it. And this will be another podcast. Well, um but let's well, let's talk about sex a little bit. Oh. Okay. Oh gosh, if you guys could see all the looks. So I'll start it off. So um, I mean, obviously, women enjoy sex. I enjoy sex. Sex is a big part of a person's life. Whether you're connecting with yourself or you're connecting with your partner, I think it's like a really important part of health and wellness. And I talk to patients about that all the time. Uh, it's and it's really interesting because my older patients, couples in their 80s, they are so easy to talk about. Sex, the relationship. Yeah, and I've learned from my couples that are in their 80s that the best sex is in the morning because they wake up, they're fresh, they're energized, they don't have to go to work, they're just there together. And sex in the morning is the best, which I mean, we all enjoy sex in the morning, but so um, but I found that interesting. I I was like, wow, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

I would feel like that generation would be a little bit more prudent about it.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

No, oh my gosh, older where they don't care they're not saying whatever they want, they're so open about it.

SPEAKER_03 39:30

Let's talk about the villages, okay?

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Yeah, that's a good point. They're super open about it, and they enjoy, I mean, and I just love that. They're enjoying their life no matter what their age is, and they're very open about it. And if there's a problem, they want to nip it in the bud and get right back on that horse and enjoy. Like they're ready to go. So, sex is a big part of health and wellness. So for me, um I'm sexuality is really important, and I love to be sexy and feel sexy and get to know my body. So I think it's important. And this is, I think, a diff. I mean, we talk about it with our girlfriends. It's a little different because we're talking about it in a microphone and there's a lot, who knows who's going to be listening. But getting to know yourself and understanding your body, you have to be able to enjoy yourself in order to help your partner enjoy yourself.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

So you have to know what you like.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

You have to know what you like and you have to feel safe when you're within a partner.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

Safety is so being able to and be able to like trust that person that you can tell them what you're so that is really important.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

So if anyone's listening and you're questioning those things, like getting to know yourself or you're having trouble connecting with yourself on a sexual level, that's normal, but like go for it and like learn your body. It's okay. I've had a couple patients over the years that were uncomfortable learning their own body and touching their own body and and experimenting with their own body. And I just I think we don't talk about it enough, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

Well, I think there's like a sense of shame, and this is really gonna be like out there that you know comes from maybe like religion, yeah, or how they were brought up with their parents, and it's like shameful to connect with yourself or with anybody else, even like just anything around sex, like shame. We don't do that, we don't talk about that. And so I think maybe especially like when we were kids, yeah. I think it might be a little bit less now, depending on if you're involved in you know, a heavy religion, then maybe yes, but I think that that has brought a lot of shame into that conversation.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Yes, and I think too though, we have to think about social media now. There's I mean, I'm not on social media nearly as much and understand all the inner workings of social media nearly as much as a younger person, but I know they have a lot of exposure to a lot of things that we didn't when we were younger, and so that's kind of scary because that's going to affect their sexuality too, I think.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

What about the the difference like as far as talking about sex for wellness? What about the difference in having sex with somebody that you have like a deep connection with versus like a one-night stand type of thing?

SPEAKER_00 42:29

Can you talk about that? Yes. So from a medical perspective, um, so oxytocin plays a role. And so for women, sex, the connection, the mental connection for a woman is so critical. Now I say that from a personal experience and from what I, you know, learn um reading articles and talking about it, not to say that a woman can't go out and have a one-night stand and just feel great and have the best orgasm ever. I'm not saying that. But typically for women, there typically has to be some type of emotional component to it. And hey, you can go out and meet someone quick, you know, quickly and connect and go and have a great time.

SPEAKER_04 43:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

But for most women, the way our body works mentally and how we think about things in that um connection with oxytocin and estradiol and testosterone and progesterone, and how all of our neurotransmitters work and everything that's going on in our body, typically the best orgasms, the best feeling, the best satisfaction sexually is when you have that real connection with that person. And so, and it takes time to build that. Men are a little bit different, but still, men like emotional connection. Men are a lot different. They are. I was being polite. Men are are a lot more visual than women. Too. So um, and and having said that, I you know, some women are very visual too, you know. So it's and again, it's a personal preference to a point. There's genetics too that play it play in there, and then hormones, of course. Um, so but I think from the most part, the as humans we like connection. We like to build a connection with someone, even if the connection is two or three hours that we're meeting someone and we really feel connected with them and we're super attracted and we want to go have a good time. Right. So, but some kind of connection. Um, I think that's just human nature. And and it's okay to um to do that. You have to be safe, of course, and think about. I'm always, you know, talking to patients about being safe because you don't want to catch something, you don't want to I mean, because sexually transmitted diseases are a real thing. And and oftentimes some of them that you get they're they last a lifetime.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

And they affect all ages.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

They do. They do.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

Ask the villagers.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

That's right. What did they say? Um, the the herpes is the the gift that keeps on giving. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

I've also heard that it's the um the confetti of the um like you can never get rid of city world or whatever. It just spreads.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

I know, yeah, and you definitely don't want. Um, but but back to sex for women and getting to know your body and enjoying yourself, I think is really important. And I and I do, it's an important part of overall health and wellness. It's not good not to be sexually active, whether you're it's just you and your yourself and your body or you with your partner. So it's an it's an important part that release that you get the oxytocin, oxytocin is such a very powerful antioxidant. It's it's so important and good for our health and wellness. And then for men, too, there's all types of implications for their prostate. So to maintain prostate health, do not give them any more excuses, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:19

Like how much is too much?

SPEAKER_03 46:22

But this is for my prostate breathing.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

Prostate health. Oh my gosh, I guess. Should we rewind and take that part out, girls? Right now. Oh my gosh, that's funny. But so what are some other topics? We could get even juicier with sex.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

No, but I think back to, you know, like the sex. Okay. Just like the like going out in the one nights for women. Like I feel like, yes, there, you know, you can do that, but can you handle what happens after that? Yes. Because I feel like, you know, it seems like these days, like there's a lot of women that do that. And um, I think the more that you do it, like when I talk to, you know, the younger generation, it seems like it's more um accepted and common for that to be going on. And I feel like it you just begin to be numbed to it, and then it becomes like not really special for you or it's harder to connect with somebody. It's harder to connect when it's time to connect.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

When it's just a physical act that you're going to.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Yeah, so I think women need to be careful because you know, maybe physically you can handle that, but can you handle that emotion mentally later after it has happened so many times? And um obviously men can handle it because they've been doing it forever, but most of them is they're just built different. They're they're they're wired completely different. So I just I wanted to say that because I feel like I don't want anyone to hear that, oh yeah, just go out and like do that, and it's totally fine. Because maybe it's fine if you feel like you can handle that, but there are always there's always um a price to pay for the choices that you made.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Sure. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

So mentally and emotionally, it might not be okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Right, right. And and that's a very good point, and it's so important to to remember that because you're right, there's all types of um repercussions to any actions, and especially that. And and for women out there who value their body um to a point that they don't want to do something like that. Again, sex is a very personal choice that you have to make who you're gonna have sex with, um, who you whether it's yourself, your partners, or or when you want to do it, I think that's a very individual choice. And you should feel um, I guess I want to say proud or just feel um good about your decisions that you're making. You know, you don't have to shame yourself. Yes, you shouldn't feel shameful about the decisions you make around that. And if you don't want to have sex and you're saving yourself for that special person and developing that relationship, that is absolutely beautiful. And if you're the person that is, hey, you know, when I meet someone and I'm feeling it and and that's good for me, that's okay too. But like Lauren was saying, you have to be okay with that and you have to be ready to accept the consequences of the actions that you choose. And sometimes they're not always just physical. They're not always just physical, correct. And and so you have to be emotionally ready for that if you uh choose to have sex with anybody, you know, whether it's a long-term relationship or just uh some short-term um enjoyment, actually. You know, you know, so that's a really good point. Um, and I think for women, we put a lot of pressure on ourselves too. There's a lot of social pressure on us about that, you know. I'm woman, hear me roar, I can do what a man does, and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 50:23

I can, but I don't want to.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 50:26

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

I like yeah, I can't I can, but I don't want to. Choice, you know, having that choice and feeling confident and proud to make the choices that you make. And that's okay, you know, whatever those choices are. I mean, we live in America, we can make those choices, which is really exciting. Yeah. That we have the freedom to make those choices.

SPEAKER_03 50:46

Sometimes I have to do the things that men do, but I don't want to do them. I just want you to highlight that part. I know. Can we just title the whole podcast up? I know. I can do that. I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

I mean, I'll tell you, like, I'm pretty old school. Like, I in my perfect world, you know, men go out and and people might not like that I say this, but in my perfect world, men go out and make the money and bring home the bacon, and women take care of the family. I'm very nurturing and I'm very mothering, and that's just who I have always been. And uh, sure, I love what I do now. My children are grown, I have grandchildren. I'm just, it's just me and my husband. But I loved being a mom. I loved being a wife, I loved being at home, I loved cooking every day. I liked taking care of my house and my kids and uh playing have having time with my girlfriends talking about dinners and recipes and and doing all the the stuff that you do as a housemaker. Like I just loved it. I mean, that was just me. That's and if I did it all over again, I would do it the same way. I my career is important, but at that time, being a mom and being a wife, that was my career, and that's really important. And and it's everybody's different. So, you know, some women aren't that's not important to them, and that's okay. And that's that's that's the beauty of having the opposite. See, and I try to be a say at home mom and I lasted three a month. See, and that's what's that's the beauty, and what's so wonderful is that we have those choices, we can make those choices, yeah, and have that option. Um, so I think that's nice. And some some women again don't don't have that option, too. So we always have to think about that. Yeah, you know, some women don't. Some women may want to stay home and not have the option. Some women have to stay home and want to go out and have a career and they don't have the option. So um, but yeah, my perfect world, I loved being a mom and a housewife. So yeah, I don't know. Everybody's different, different strokes for different folks.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Well, I think that that personality is is really common amongst amongst nurses, too. Yeah. Like nurses are such caregivers, and the nurses that I know outside of work are just like so loving and nurturing. They'll do anything for every anybody. You know, a lot of times they get, you know, people will call them like a pushover, but that's just the way they are built.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

And just like men and women, people are all built differently. Yes. And they all have strengths that you know make the world go round. And if we didn't have people like that, caregivers, right? Yeah, then we would be missing the major part.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Major part. Yeah, that's so true. We need I'm just not a caregiver.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

Yes, you are breezy. I'm not really.

SPEAKER_02 53:45

I also say, like I also say I could never have been a teacher. Really? Oh. No way. I don't mind educating adults. Oh, but I always say, like, a person that can go into a classroom and love like 20 other kids as much as they love their own kids is like an angel. It takes a lot. Because some of my kids' teachers are like, I don't know. I think sometimes that they love them more than I do. Do they have children? They're teachers, yeah. A lot of them, but like my son's kindergarten teacher, oh my god, she was the best. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

Elementary school teachers are just oh my goodness, I don't know how they do it.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

I mean, she would and then their first grade teacher, she was amazing too. And the fact that she she was really hard on them, like strict, like I was afraid of her. Like if she called me into the room to like have a conversation, it's like, oh my god, I felt like I was getting called in the principal's office, but she was just amazing with the kids. And then, like, when she got to know where he like, she wasn't scary, she was just strict and like had a schedule for them, which I think as far as like a six to seven-year-old needs, it was great, you know. It kind of trained them up to be structured people, but um, yeah, it could never have been a teacher either.

SPEAKER_00 54:59

Teachers are so underpaid, good teachers. It's I mean, and that we entrust them with our babies.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

I mean, they have your kids for a lot of than you do.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

Sometimes they do, they absolutely do. I think teachers are so underpaid. We need we always need good teachers. That's another whole podcast for teachers. Shout out to teachers, go teachers! Yeah, I'm I I love teaching. That's I think like so much of what I do with my patients. I'm constantly teaching, students teaching. Like, I really believe knowledge is power.

SPEAKER_03 55:33

And I love teaching too.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:35

I feel like I could be an elementary school teacher. Oh, yeah. I could see that new learning. I don't think I'd want to be a middle school teacher. Oh no, middle school is hard. That's so tough. I could maybe I could do high school and I could do elementary school.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

Middle school is tough. It is. I I would always say middle school is like the time that's like transitional for your kids. Like middle school is where kids really transition and start to you start to see what path they're going down. It's so hard, and kids can be so cruel at their that time. Their hormones are raging, they're crazy, they don't know what's going on, they can't figure it out inside what's going on inside their own body and their brain. And it's just it's a hard time on kids. Middle school is tough. Yeah, I don't re I don't I wouldn't want to be back in middle school. It's just a hard time. Do you guys remember that for your kids? I remember it was just a hard time. I just, I mean, I remember, yes, for my kids.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

My kids were in middle school during COVID, so it was tough. Oh, that's so hard. Because they like had to be in their classroom all day. You know, they couldn't go outside and play, they couldn't go to lunch, they had to be so many feet apart. Yeah. So it's hard for middle school kids not to be social and like be together, you know. But um, but going back to teachers, what about is there a teacher that you had as an adult, like through college or through your programming that you really felt helped shape you?

SPEAKER_00 57:06

Well, yes. So the um physician that I talk about that gave me the terminology medical detective, he was just just brilliant and just so ahead of his time. And he was really um the colleagues uh didn't really accept a lot of what he would say a lot of times. He they would label him as a quack and stuff because he really was stepped outside the box, really took the time to to find out what was going on with his patients and would spend so much time with his patients, educating them, and just really cared about each and every patient and go over and above. I remember him telling me like he would get up at four o'clock in the morning and he would be studying and he would be getting ready for his day in the office, and he would just spend so much time with every patient, and he understood so intimately just what was happening at a genetic level, at a cellular level. And he just he was just brilliant, just brilliant. And he just he loved what he did and he took so much time. And I just I loved working with him and learning from him. And after I graduated with my nurse practitioner, he hired me to be in his office to go over all of the results that he would get after he would talk with the patients and he would have me go over everything with the patients because he would speak so fast and he would speak kind of in um clinical language that they would have trouble understanding. So then I would go over everything with him, with the patients. And I just loved working with him. He had such an impact. And and I have to give a shout out to my ex-husband. He had a huge impact on me too. He's an amazing um physician. And again, we both had a time in our lives where we dove into functional medicine and just really um took a lot of time about um to learn all of that. We both kind of learned together. We worked together in the office, we learned together, and he was just um, he's brilliant too, just wonderful. He's still a great clinician, he still practices. Um, the the my mentor um had passed, but my ex-husband's still practicing and caring for patients all the time. So they both had a huge impact on me. So, so yeah, what about you guys? Any specific mentors or teachers?

SPEAKER_02 59:34

So if I go back to like when I was graduating from college, um, there was definitely this teacher that I asked her for a recommendation um for a map a program that I wanted to get into for my master's. And she actually told me, she's like, I don't think you're cut out for a master's.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_02 59:53

Yes. Wow, no, I'm not kidding. And um she drove me in a way, like the opposite way. So it was one of those, like, well, I'm gonna show you. And so that kind of drove me to to kind of to look outside of Florida as far as my programming and um, you know, what were some other places that I could apply to. I actually like specialized in research, I had to write a thesis, it got published. So like she was kind of like a driving factor in the back of my head. Like, I'm gonna show you, like, I can do this and I can do it really, really well. Um, and then I would say, as far as um how I would say, like, I learned a lot more in practice than I did like in the classroom, there was a a number of doctors that I would say, you know, 20, 20 years ago, like dietitians weren't really looked at as like a part of the interdisciplinary team. Right. And there were a handful of doctors, you know, when I moved back here that really said like would take the time to talk to me and explain things to me and help me to understand things better as like a whole patient perspective and not just like nutritionally, and actually listen to like my feedback and what I felt the patient needed and implemented things. So I would definitely say that there were you know, an ICU doctor, a nephrologist, and a pulmonologist that I can think off the top of my head that really when I hear their name now, I'm like, oh, I love them. That's so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:29

Yeah, yeah. And ICU doctors and nephrologists and pulmonologists, I mean, they are in the thick of critical care. Yeah. So they're they really are, I think, the one the type of provider that has such a good understanding of what's happening at the cellular level and really understanding the biology that goes on inside the body. Right. And they practice that way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

Well, and like being here in Ocala, it we're not at a teaching hospital. So for them to take the time to teach, yes, it really meant a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

Yeah, that's great. Yeah, and that's so nice we have people locally, yeah, where we are, that that have such an impact and caring for patients, so important. Because critical care is a big deal. That's where medicine really shines. I feel like our medicine, Western medicine really shines when we're dealing with critically critical patients, critical care patients. That's where our our strong suit is. The prevention part, that's where I think we need to work on. And I think what we're getting there, we're moving in that direction. It just takes more providers to catch on and be more interested in it, I think. Um but I think we'll get there eventually.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Well, and I think too, having the team aspect to it, like not having the mentality that only a physician can help make a person be their best.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

So how you've incorporated me and Lauren and like the whole approach to a person's wellness.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:11

Absolutely. Absolutely. My and mind-body spirit. And that's why when we when I added the mindset to it, I felt like that was a piece that we were missing. So now I'm so excited to have Tammy help moderate and teach and have that eight-week course re-fire yourself. So really connect with yourself and understand that mind-body piece because that's really, I mean, true vitality is mind-body. So you have to have a healthy mind and a healthy body. You can't have one without the other. I tell, and I it's the same with movement and nutrition. You can't be eating great but not moving and expect to be optimally well. And you can't be moving and then eating crappy and expect to be optimally well. It's the same with the brain. There's a that huge component in the with our mental health as well. So so important. Yeah. And then, of course, cellular health is foundational, and that's where it all starts. So that's what we really focus on, starting there at the foundation, and then we all build in and care for the patient. Genetics, another big one, which I think that really is the wave of the future. That's precision medicine. You know, what is a person's genetic predisposition? Okay. What's their cellular health? Okay. How is their environment influencing everything? Okay. What should they be eating? How should they be moving? What hormones do they need? What do we need to be doing for this person? And I I that's precision medicine. And that's what every woman and every man deserves. And I think we'll get there. But that's what we do at My Venus Club, and that's exciting. It is exciting. Well, guys, we've had a great conversation today. I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate you really being raw and opening up. Um, thank you so much, both of you, for being here. The episode was not about having perfect answers, but it was really about being real. And I think women need more of that. I really do, because so many of us walk around thinking we're the only ones that may be struggling or questioning ourselves or feeling lost or carrying pain and pushing through, just saying, you know what, we just need to push through. But every woman really has a story, and every woman has lived through something that's really shaped her life. And sometimes the things that felt hard and messy and unfair, those things are really what shapes us. So if you're listening today, I really hope you heard something that made you feel seen. And I hope you give yourself permission to honor your own story because your story really matters. And the woman you are becoming is worth showing up for. It really is. So thanks for joining Lauren and Bree and myself today for this raw and real conversation. Keep listening to your body, keep building your foundations, keep giving yourself grace, and keep becoming the woman you've always dreamed to be. Thanks, girls. Thanks, Cindy. Thank you for being here with me today. If this episode resonated with you, I invite you to share it with someone who may need to hear it also. And if you're ready to start understanding your body on a deeper level and getting the clarity you deserve, you can learn more about my Venus Club at myvenusclub.com. We offer a limited number of memberships for women who are ready to take a more personalized, in-depth approach to their health. So apply for a membership. There's no pressure, just an opportunity to start a different kind of conversation, one that focuses on you, your body, and what you truly need. Because once you understand your body, everything changes. I'll see you in the next episode.