N!ggas Embarrassed

On this episode, Trey and JJ discuss their music taste. Find out how they first met and about their early inspirations for the podcast. Trey grapples with “MAGA Minaj” and JJ exposes his friend group as a cult.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're listening to QX A Radio Yeah, I'm a bad bitch.

SPEAKER_02 0:09

I bite, keep it up all night, pull up, just on sight. Hope stay pressed, I don't wanna catch a light. I took my dance in my pants. I want my cash in the chance. Backslash, in the chance, backslash. I get fan, I'm a bad bitch, I park. You rockin' with us like mark. Let's back it. Let's start, close to the next, we about to make a mark. I'm a bad bitch, I park, you rockin' with us like market. Get set, let's start. We about to make a mark.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

You're listening to QX Play Radio. Yeah. Hey!

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Hey guys!

SPEAKER_03 0:57

Hey guys! Good to hear our beautiful voices once again. Yes. Welcome to the second episode of Quack AF Unapologetically Queer and Black. I'm JJ. I'm Trey. And we're Quack AF. Yes. Oh my God. I love that we did. I love that we're starting to do an intro. So we have an intro that's consistent. And like you said, that theme song, that banging theme song.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Honestly, honestly, I gotta be I'm gonna be honest. I was listening to it and I I actually found myself continuously doing it. Like I will re- I will rewind the previous podcast episode and like listen to just the theme song. Yeah. Loki gotta upload that by itself.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Yeah. So like I said, this is the second episode. So if you have not listened to the first one, please go on to our um podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Wherever you get your podcast. And listen to the first episode because that first episode kind of gives us a little background about who we are and everything. But like I said, thank you for listening to us. Thank you for supporting us. Like we appreciate it. We love you guys. Just thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Thank you so much. And since that last episode, there are actually a couple things we kind of didn't really get to talk about that we want to go ahead and knock out right now. Right. So, first off, Trevor, fuck. Never mind, it doesn't matter, right? It does not matter. I keep saying that.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Yeah, no, because I said on the podcast. Yeah, we've it's up on it now. So we already know, bitch, my name is Trevor. Yeah, yeah. I go by Trey.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Yeah, we we gonna be we're gonna be still saying JJ and Trey could, you know, trademark. You hoes, don't need to call me Trevor.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Yeah, don't unless I know because I don't know you like that. You can call me Jonathan, though. That's him. Yeah. You can call me Trey, you can call me Trey. Like Trade. Yeah. You can call me Trey. Like T-R-U-Y-D. Yes. Mark it. Oh. Right. Okay. Yeah, like first of all, how are you doing today? Because I don't think we've we have we've you spent the night last night, but I don't think we really talked about how you're doing. So like, how are you doing today?

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Honestly, okay. So I feel pretty good. Like, I I actually feel pretty great. Um every time I do anything artwise, I feel pretty, pretty like up there. And it's crazy because you know, being a creative or whatnot, it can be it bec it can be so stressful at times, but then there's like that moment where you're just in that flow state and you get lost in it, and oh, that is pure. That's pure, pure joy. Yeah. And today when I I got lost in just working on my stuff, that felt so good. Yeah. I appreciate you asking me. Yeah, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

I just because I'm also creative. So I understand like when you get into that flow state, you're just like just going and going and going and just like kind of just doing like like when I'm writing raps, like it just the words start to flow out of me and flow on the I would say on the paper, but like on my phone, because that's when I usually type them type them out on my phone. Um and it's just it's just like a flow. Like I've I've started to I haven't gotten a flow state in a little while. It's been like maybe like a month or so.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Um but yeah, it's it's exciting. Like because I when I made my EP, I kinda um I used different raps that I already wrote and put them to put beats to them. Yeah. So it wasn't like brand smaking new, like it was already like raps that were already written. So I can't wait till I get to that point where I'm I have a brand new project and I start getting into my flow states. Because you were in it. Like this morning, you were in it. Yeah. Because you were like, I kind of saw like little hints of what you were doing. I was like, okay, you're doing some detail and stuff. So it was just interesting to see you in your creative process. Oh yeah. You locked in.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Okay. I was, I was. I I low-key loved that. I love seeing that our artist's face when we I just can't wait for the moment where I'm just in my own space, you're in your own space, and we just kind of do our own creative thing, but we are in each other's like area, and it's just like I love that. That's the type of energy I always need. Being around other people who are creative, that's just good.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

That's exciting. That's very exciting. So um I'm doing good since you didn't ask. Oh my god. I was about to. Right. I thought you had a whole other tangent, nigga. Okay. Um, I'm doing good. Like I said, we um we went to the beach.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Oh my god!

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Did we even say that for a while? I don't even remember we've if we even mentioned the beach just now. I didn't even mention the beach. No, we didn't. Okay. Well, we went to the beach yesterday. We went to the beach.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

We didn't go to like the ocean beach. We didn't go to we didn't go to Myrtle Beach or anything like that. We ended up going to a beach that's like it's like a lake beach. Yeah. That's like right next to a lake. And really? No way. Right, right, right. So it it's always peaceful and I want to use this word cathartic to go because that beach, like, it means a lot to me because of like my friends. Like, we we've gone to the beach now with I've gone there twice with my friend, my closest friend. Yeah. And it's always been a good experience. Like this time around, it was a little rough. Not gonna lie, it got a little got a little bumpy.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

When I tell you there was sand in my shorts, there were sand in my shorts.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

There was sand in the shorts, sand in my ass crack, bitch. And it was just there were conversations that needs to be had. Honestly, real. Yeah, it literally did happen.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

I didn't want to do it there because I really wanted to relax, but at the same time, I am really happy that we did it there.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Yeah, there were conversations that need to be had, and I'm glad we had the conversations because it was we were able to kind of get some things out. People came to some revelations, and we I think we became more closer and more aware of each other, I think.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

And I think that's the beauty of a conversation. Like, I'm just starting to learn now, like, y'all, bitch, talk it out. Please do. Talk it out. Like, bitch, if you're talking to somebody and there's a problem issue, talk it out. Don't scream and shout. But like, yeah, actually talk it out. Like our friend, which I take this from him, like, don't accept I don't know anymore. Like, think about it and figure out what is it, what's the actual issue. What are you actually feeling? What's bothering you for real? Yeah, what's bothering you for real? And like, actually talk about it and talk it out. Like, and like I said, I I'm I'm new to this, I'm not true to this at all. So it's it's it's new for me to not internalize everything and just talk it out with somebody. Like, even if you're talking out with yourself, sometimes like it's better to I think it's sometimes better to talk it out loud instead of having the thoughts ruminate in your mind.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

I never really realized that until until like I've done it. Like until you've done it, because golly, there are so many moments in life where you just kind of go do through the motions and just keep going and moving. And I never really really take the time to stop and think, be like, I need to actually talk about this with somebody. And like very recently, in in these many years, last like only two or three years, I've actually taken that to heart, especially this last year. Yeah. And it's just like I understand the power of expressing how you feel to other people. Like it may seem silly and stupid and cliche as hell, but like when you actually do that shit about people around people you trust, you really do feel like the weight is off your back. Uh-huh. Right. And gotta say, yesterday at the beach, I gotta see a side of Trevor. I did not get to usually see Trey. I got to see a side of Trey, I don't get to usually see. And I I I just it's it's just beautiful. After all the years that we have been friends, it is nice to see another side of you. And I'm sure in the last few weeks, and last time, in the last few times you've hung out, that you've probably seen a side of me, you know. Yeah. Didn't really get to usually see.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

Yeah, because I think, and it goes into what we're gonna talk about today, like our relationship has been interesting. And when I say relationship, I mean friendship, don't don't take too much about it. That was a joke last episode, don't worry. So we met in college. We did meet and at this wonderful college. And we were we we got pretty close. Like you were not my first friend, but one of my first friends that I met in college. And if I'm not mistaken, it was because of the class, right? It was because of art. I forgot was it into visual art? It was what it was in art class. Yeah, it was in our class.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

There's no way this entire time it's been a hit art history class.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

Yeah, because it was art history. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

Why were you there? Because we had to take it because it was a genetic, yeah. Yeah, it was genetic. Okay, got you. I was like, what? Yeah, okay, real. I can't think it was a math class.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

No, it was not. We I don't think no, I think that was literally that was the only class we had together.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Out of all the four years in college. Literally, that's so crazy to me. Because I ran to other people a bunch of times.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

How did we hit it off? I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

I am so glad you forgot because I remember. Okay. I f I definitely remember. Okay, so get this image in your head. Class, big lecture room, whatever. We're first yep. First starting out. What is it? I think it's like first day of class, literally. So I was like looking around, looking at people, and one of the people that really caught my eye was my friend Trey over here. And I, for the life of me, cannot tell you why. Like, I just kept thinking, like, yo, I low-key guy get to know this person. And that is that is just the thought process. And I just was like doing my thing like I did, like I did with the other dude. Um, didn't I call him? I didn't call him water bottle. What was it like? KK? Yeah, like what I did with KK, where I was just like, okay, this is a person that a person of interest in my mind. I'm like, okay, I should say hi to you. And then like after that, uh, you were talking to our other friend that we had at the time. Okay. Uh what we want to call we need to call him nicknames before we start the recording. Right. Um, we're gonna call him soccer. I don't know. Oh, okay. Soccer ball? I know what you're talking about. Yeah, we're gonna talk about it. That's fine. So we're gonna call him Messi because I love we're not gonna call him Messi. Um, but soccer ball, I had met him at orientation and you were talking to him. And I was like, yo, okay, cool. So I'm gonna be honest, I don't even know how I met soccer ball. I think you guys were just talking because you were sitting next to each other. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know. I don't know because I didn't get to crazy. But I knew I you caught my eye and I was like, okay, I want to talk to you. I didn't have an excuse yet. But then you and Soccer Ball got talking, and that's when it was like, okay, I'm kind of sitting close to you guys. Maybe I'm not gonna learn a lot from this class, but myself, I'm like, hey, someone brought up the idea of a study group. And then it was just three of us doing a study group. Right. And for a good, I think it was like a week, or maybe we got to do like two sessions of studying before um person walked up to me. She was an older lady. She wasn't like too old, but it was certainly like she was in her probably like early.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

Oh, you forgot all about I forgot, I forgot the truck, the Trevor and JJ Laura. I forget the couple.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

We had a whole study buddy group. It was crazy. Yeah. So what happened was him and soccer ball and me made a group, made a little group chat on Snapchat, and we got a little study group going, and we did that for a few a little while. Someone walked up to me and was like, hey, you remember anything from this class? I'm like, I didn't even recognize her at first. Um, we're gonna call her. You remember her name? I know you remember her name, right? Yeah. Okay, great. What's a good name for her? You come with name because I got soccer ball. Um, because she would always come in nurse scrubs and stuff. And that's what she was doing for real. So, nurse. This is a stupid ass name.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

I'll do that. I will do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Okay. Okay. Miss Jackie, even though you said nurse Jackie, Miss Jackie, she was an older lady, she was very, very, uh, very happy. What's the word? I can't think of the word. Where someone's like excitable, they like they kind of like give off a good energy sometimes. Like she was she was flamboyant and like she was energetic, maybe. I will say energetic, yeah. Yeah. So when she came up to me and asked me, I was like, hey, do you remember anything from this class? I'm like, oh yeah, sure. Me and my friends, we were studying or whatever. And she's like, Hey, can I study with you guys? And she became really close with us in that way. And we'd have our planned study groups. I don't remember exactly how many times we studied for real because I remember nothing from this class. But we had a little study group for a good minute, Miss Jackie, soccer ball, Trey and me, and we just were like doing a little vibe, and it was pretty good. Um, and I was just like, hey, you know, there's some other people who apparently caught on to the study group, and they were like, hey, so we want to they they approached me. I don't know again, I don't know how this keeps happening, but they approached me and was like, hey, I need help. And then he, this like big white dude came up to me and he had apparently a couple other friends who didn't study a lot for this class. And they were like, hey, you guys do want to study group, we should join each other. I'm like, yeah, sure. And from then on, not from then on, actually, sorry. They came up and I hadn't told Trey or Soccer Ball or Miss Jackie about this. So when they came up and they were like, Oh, we're gonna be a party study group, uh, Trey was instantly like, um, I'm an introvert, so I'm like, all these new people, all these new personalities, girl, what's going on?

SPEAKER_03 14:40

Immediately it was a problem. But like, okay, before, I don't know, the person that had the photograph and memory.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

There was a person with a photograph of memory. Was that the guy? Yes. Oh, yeah. When did he come into the picture? It was like, I guess, like, let's say weeks after we've been doing we've been doing our study group thing for really either that or maybe it's like it was closer to the.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

I thought he came on pretty early on in the group. Because I'm like, I don't think we well, I don't know. Did they okay?

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Because I'm trying to remember any part of our study group sessions after the fact. We're gonna call him Swimsuit. Swimsuit. You remember anything about this guy? Yes. Oh crap, we remember this guy.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

Do you know who I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01 15:23

I know who you're talking about, but I can't I forgot his face entirely, but I know who it is.

SPEAKER_03 15:27

Okay, so Swimsuit had a photograph and memory. That's crazy. To where I might it might have been more than a photograph memory, but he could remember because he took the class the semester before. And so he remembered all the stuff that was on the test in the class. He remembered all the stuff. So I think that if I don't know how we all met, but I was we were probably with soccer ball and JJ up in the library upstairs, and I feel like Oh, you don't want you a friend? Swimsuit?

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Does his name start with an A? Yes. Okay, got you. That's what I'm talking about. Okay, cool, cool. Give me a second. Do you remember how you met him? Of course. Oh how you met him? Oh, God. Okay, so it was a big nerd thing. You remember orientation was very important. I met a guy with autism, let's say, that day. He has a G in his name. Um and Oh, yeah. Yes. So me and him would go up there, and Swimsuit just so happened to be there, and we slowly got together that way. And he was, you know, I'm coming out as gay. He was attractive to me to some degree. Oh, like you were. Yeah, I was starting to swimsuit. Okay, yeah, yeah. No, swimsuit was like very like super, super strict gay. Like he was super strict straight. Why did I say gay? I was like, girl, he was I was like, was he? No, he wasn't. Yeah, he was because he was in it. Super straight. Oh my god. He was in no pussy. There was no be there was no pussy being gotten in. Let me tell you. Okay, go ahead. Like, like his early on years, those first two years I knew him, he was very like, I don't do sex, I don't do anything like that crazy, anything like that. Um, he just focuses on schools, focuses on swimming, that sort of thing and studying or whatever. And he was like really ac academic. And I'm like, okay, yeah, you're great. Um, but it was just like when something in your life kind of is the only aspect of life you really care about, that's all that kind of the cop that kind of pops up in everything. So I don't mean to call anybody boring because I'm not like the most exciting person myself. Wow. But but like he even would say he would tell me. He would tell me, yeah, I know I'm like a boring person. I'm like, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

So all you geeks and nerds out there, I know you got good dick. So it's okay. It's okay. You just you work on your sex game, and then it'd be all fine because people love nerds. Yeah, they do. People love geeks. Apparently. Oh my god. Anime, anime niggas, like step your dick up so that you don't have no excuses. You can practice on me.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

You can practice on me. Oh, okay. If you need someone to practice on, I'm here. Okay. I just want to let you know. I will let you give me that gamer dick.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Oh, okay. Not that gamer.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Either the way, I had gotten to know swimsuit very early on in the year, and I oh my god. I j yeah, I just remembered, I forgot about the fact that Swimsuit got to, he remembered the class that we were taking. That's why he helped us out. That's why he's why we actually fucking passed the class. Because he remembered everything that was on the test. He also last semester. He still had worksheets. He still had like the previous sheets. Oh, the notes, yeah. He still had notes and stuff, so we we could got we were able to do it that way. And swimsuit.

SPEAKER_03 18:44

Yeah, because this is what the thing was the art teacher would literally have a the class from was from 6.30 to 850 every fucking Wednesday. Yeah. Imagine that. 630 to 850, and this nigga never let us out early. He never took any breaks. I think we might have took a break, maybe. I barely remember one. But he literally would teach all the way from 630 to 850. Teach is a strong word. It was a fucking lecture. It was a literally fucking level. It was a lecture. He was just talking talking, talking, talking, talking. Now imagine that it was the first fucking, it was my first year, my first semester in college. First real lecture class. And it was just like, damn, this nigga is talking from 630 to 850. Really? For the moment hundreds of slides. Hundreds. So like, and each slide would have a picture of some art piece that we would talk about that or we that he would talk about. He would maybe ask questions and then he would get us involved a little bit. A little bit. He was a little engaging, but for the most part, he was just talking. So uh he's I think he would send us the slideshows, right? And we have to study the slideshow. Yeah. Now imagine a fucking slideshow with I kid you not a hundred slides. You had to study that. And for the test, like so this guy, swimsuit, who had to photograph memory that could remember what was on the test and what was like being on the being tested of us.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah, it was a good like that was a good like like access. Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Like we had good access to like to where we wouldn't have to study hundreds of slides, we study like a good thirty.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Because he would know exactly which ones were like the most important. And we put Okay, cool. So, and of course, he would give out the exact same tests for each semester. So it was like, hey, cool, great. Um I I don't even I got to art history too, so I assume I passed this class. Um, but like when I tell you, I didn't have retain a single thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Yeah, no, I remember I'm about to say the Gregorian chance, but that's easy. That has nothing to do with it. I don't remember nothing.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

I remember a lot more from art history one two than anything from art history one because it was a lot. Yeah, it was crazy. But yeah, we had a little study group, and then our study group got a little bit, a little bit expanded by me. And long story short, I don't remember how everything ended. I just remember us like not really like connecting after that.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Yeah, because we didn't have the class anymore. But I still talked to soccer ball like every like I still talked to like in school. Yeah, while we were in school. Like every now and again. I talked to him. If we saw each other like in the calf or something like that, we would talk. And I think he became a like a a pride leader or something like that. Probably, yeah. The way he's I've seen the pictures, he looks generic as hell. So he he became something to where he was busy a lot, and so I couldn't really see him. And like I said, we didn't have any classes.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

And I was yeah, I was a commuter. Like I only commuted to campus, so right.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

He lived on camp. I lived on campus, soccer ball lived on campus, um, swimsuit also he was he he didn't live on campus. He was also a commuter, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Yeah, but yeah, I mean I didn't know. I definitely had a I I he was my more my friend, I feel, than yours. I don't know if you guys really, you and swimsuit ever

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Really we're like, we were no, because I feel like I hate to say this, but I feel like the only reason I hung out with him was because uh the fact that he remembered the test. Like it wasn't we weren't hanging out, we would just talk when we were studying, we would talk. That'd be the only reason why I was talking to him because we he remembered the test and we would study, we would quote unquote study with him, basically just telling us the answers. Yeah, kind of literally. Um but yeah, that's interesting that you say that. Like you just felt like you needed to get to know me, like, bitch, you've been a fan.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

And I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna be real. I was like, is it because he's like one of the few other black people with glasses on? Is that the reason why I instantly gravitated towards you? And I can't tell.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Now, mind you, like I said, we we went to a predominantly white a PWI, yeah, okay. A predominantly white institution, and it's a small school, like there might have been a thousand students. Yep. Now, mind you, my fucking high school graduation class was like 600 students that which is I graduated with in high school. Right. Now going to a college that had a max of a thousand students that didn't even not all of us lived on campus. It was kind of a little bit of a shock, not a shock to me, but it was like it was interesting. It was nice because of small class sizes and you could have actual community with your teacher. Yeah, there's that as well. They actually know you. That's the whole thing. That's their whole shtick. That's the whole thing they're everybody knows. There we go singing.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

They know your name. You know what you remember the fucking password to the computers? You belong here.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Oh, shut the fuck up. I belong here? Are you sure?

SPEAKER_03 23:44

I forgot about that. Are you sure? I forgot about that. That was a whole tagline. That was the whole tagline. They might have changed it because I'm like, I don't have it on them anymore. I don't see that shit anymore, but let me tell you. I ain't looking. So they were it it was a it was a good it was a good college to get your degree. Yeah. And for sure. Yeah, it wasn't like a if you're looking for like a ooh, I want to go to the parties, or ooh, I wanna like get into some things, like it wasn't a school for you. Very much not like that at all. It's not there was there were some parties, but like, it was some weird shit going on. Like the theater parties.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Oh, you actually did get participate in parties. I participated in one Halloween party. Okay, let me tell you, let me hear about it.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

It was a theater party. And like theater kids. Oh if you're a theater kid, I'm sorry. I'm a I was a band kid. JJ's an art kid. I had yeah, I had an art kid. So the theater kids, in my opinion, were just weird. No, I've heard horror stories about the theater department. Really? Yes, they be doing everything. Yeah, they just I didn't really. I had one friend, I was just one of my close friends that I got to see in Atlanta. Well um, I saw her, she was asking a theater kid, but she she wasn't weird like that. She just, I think she treated it like a job. Like she was doing it and she was just going and doing what she wanted to do. She was doing it to do what she wanted. But she it didn't, she I don't think she let it consume her whole personality into where like she's losing herself. Like most theater kids do. So right. Like I said, this is just these are our opinions. These are our opinions.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

If you're a theater kid, bitch, I'm sorry. My building, the building, the art building that I went to was right close to where the theater department was. And let me just say I had a little crossover, and people would tell me a lot of things about what happens in the art in the theater department, and I never heard anything all that great. I heard horror stories about like people's relationships, all this jazz. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

So I did go to a party because of her? No, not because of her, because a lot of my other friends were also theater because, like I said, the black population, I was friends to the black pop, I was friends with the whole black population on campus. Three. I was friends with the whole black population on campus. The whole five people on campus. Exactly. So all the theater kids that were black, we would hang out, and you know, our gay asses, bitch. Literally, but it was a lot of girls, um, and we're not gonna call them names, but um, but they invited us to the Halloween party, and it wasn't like weird per se, but it just felt like there was a lot of weird energy going on. It was a house party. There's nothing I can't say anything specific. Like, I'm not saying oh I'm a fucking fucking NDA, you know, it's nothing like that. But like it was just that was the first time I had Bacardi. What the fuck is that? It's rum, like liquor. Oh, okay. I got tore up. Oh, it messed you up, really. Yeah, I got tore up from the floor up. Oh, okay. Okay. Like I was tore up and I was I was feeling myself. I've had a good time, I had a good time. I did have a good time.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

How many times before that had you been drunk?

SPEAKER_03 26:51

Um, probably not that much because I I turned 21. I think it was after it had to be after COVID. So it was after the pandemic. I don't want to reference anything because get a banned or something. But it was after the pandemic because I turned 20 when the pandemic started. Okay. I didn't start drinking drinking until I was legal. So but I just didn't the the characters, and I when I say characters, I mean literally and figuratively. The characters in theater were just, they were just weird to me. I'm trying to figure out like can you describe what made them weird? I just I pick up on energy. And I guess maybe when I was hanging, like just hanging around them, like their energy was so like, ah, and blah blah blah blah in your face. Right. And it's just like I maybe as an introvert, that might be just me. As an introvert, I was just like, I don't know about this. This is a little bit too much for me. Me personally. Yeah. Um, and like I said, I just you just hear a weird thing. Like it might have been just rumors. You just you're telling me there's horror stories.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

I wish I could remember a single thing. Oh, that's unfortunate the vibe I got. I would like I had a friend, me and her had the same birthday, and she used to be a part of that or whatever. And she told me some stuff, and then I heard stuff from other people again, because our departments were so close. People would come, and I just, you know, I'm a big people person and talk or whatever, and people would tell me stuff about the theater department, and I would hear stuff while I'm doing other things, and people everyone's just talking, and it's always like, hey, on the theater department, you don't want to be a part of that.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Yeah, and it was just like you just heard, and it could have been just rumors, they could have just got a bad rap and a bad reputation. I wouldn't take a class.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

People were telling me I should have. I'm like, sure.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

So yeah, that's we I we yeah, we got on topic of fucking all over the place. TikTok who? Right, so that's a little bit how we met. Um, that's how we met. Essentially. I I'm so glad I met you.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

I'm so Trevor. Yeah. I'm so glad to be here. Yeah, and I'm so glad to be your friend. Yeah. And I'm also gonna try and remember this goddamn Trey shit. Oh my god. Oh my god, you got a friend in me. So after our whole situation with that first class, we did have a few years, uh not a f I won't say years, but I will say like a good maybe, maybe a year where we didn't interact at all.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

It was a little while. It was certainly a little while because I remember we just kind of when we graduated, we kind of went our own.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

This what I'm talking about is like still during school though. Okay, we had a period where it was just like I didn't really get to meet you until we met our mutual friend. And that's when we came back together. And I I told you a story about like I'm not saying that on the stream. I'm not saying that on the stream. That would kill me. My reputation. But I told you a story about a person I was messing with or whatever, and you were like, oh my god, where was I on all this? Didn't know that I had messed with the person. And oh it was just like it had been that long, just that long period of time. And I was like, Yeah, we had took we had just gotten back to each other, and then I guess again that happened um after our mutual friend would bring us together sometimes. And then slowly but surely in the last year year, we've we've gotten a lot more close, and then that's when the whole podcast thing paint came about.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

Yeah, we started talking with each other more and connecting, and I was just like, bitch, I don't have a whole lot of friends. I started realizing I was like, bitch, I do not have a whole lot of friends. But I'm like, bitch, I got JJ right here. Yeah. So um I think that's when I was like, let me start reaching out to him more and start by connecting with him more. And then, like I said, it just snowballed exponentially to w here today, like having a whole fucking podcast now.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

And the reason why we have a podcast is because I I truly find Trey to be like one of the people that are just easier to talk to in my life, where it's just like I can just talk to you and I don't have to worry, like, oh dang, this person probably hates me. Oh dang, this other, all this other stuff. I've gotten over that now because I can understand some stuff, but I will say, in a very you came into my life again at a really good point where I just needed somebody who just had that type of sense to where I could just talk to you without like every word being the end of the world. So you just you're just really easy to talk to.

SPEAKER_03 31:17

That's all thank you.

unknown 31:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

So with your with your masculine um orange citrus voice. I do not know what our dude was talking about.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Yeah, you y'all are gonna meet him, y'all gonna love him.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Oh, I can't wait for this audience.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

He's a yapper. Oh, if you like talking, that nigga can talk. Okay, which I love it. I appreciate it. I do because he, and we're not gonna go too deep into him, but like we he just he just asked questions that you would never think about. My first bitch, I'm gonna say this before you start talking, but like we were literally this morning, he was literally trying to think of all the ways in the English language that he could spell the word groovy.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 32:07

He was trying to come up with as many ways as he could say he could to spell the word groovy. So it was just like a weird, like he went down a rabbit hole about fucking vowel sounds, it's like that. So he's just like a very eclectic, I think he's a very eclectic person. And he is just unique and just different, and he's a yapper. So I think y'all love him.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Yeah, no, I I love y'all's little banter every time. I wouldn't say I wouldn't call it banter. It's literally a conversation, it is a discussion that it's like you two are always thinking about something, so it's just like when you come together, you have beautiful ideas. And I just love our friends, just like his energy when it comes to asking questions about everything. It's like a it's it's it's so beautiful. I I just love his energy. Yeah, but like I said, that's a little tasty taste.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Yeah, but when he comes on the show, you'll know who we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

He's not gonna listen to the episode before this, so we're good. He won't hear this for a while. We're good. Right. Because our friends are fake.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

So I think we should do the TikTok last. The TikTok last, okay. I think we should do the TikTok last. Let's actually talk about um what we're gonna talk about today.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Okay. So, first things first. We've said this. Can we talk about the title? Can we talk about the title a little bit? Okay, yeah. Because this this has been a point where it was like the title of this episode, Nigga's embarrassed, was originally going to be the title of the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Yeah, and I some of you bitches probably just cringed a little bit. I I heard it. I heard it, yeah. I heard it at the time. Yeah, you ain't slick. The time loop. You ain't flicked.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Right. But it was supposed to be Niggas Embarrassed, and of course, for everyone who's who who's in the know, who wasn't me at the time, it's a reference to which song? Niggas in Paris. By who? Jay-Z and Kanye West. Okay, got you. Okay, yeah, it was a ye track. A what? A ye track. Yay? You guys pronounce it as ye? I mean yeah? Because it's Kanye. Yeah, but it's like a ye, it's ye. Like you know what you spelled Y E, though. I know, but it's like ye, it's like when you look at it by itself, it's yeah are you saying when you say when you refer to Kanye in his like abbreviated form, I don't refer to Kanye in his abbreviated form. I don't refer to Kanye, period.

SPEAKER_03 34:22

Um Okay, okay. I know he killed your crops, but I mean I just don't he we don't need to get into him, but like he's just uh but anyways, that was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

He made a graduation, right?

SPEAKER_03 34:34

He made that yeah, but so he has he's a good he's a good artist. Oh yeah, for sure. A good rapper, writer, objectively, musical, um, creative. So I appreciate that about him. He's but he's yeah, he's become interesting. He's become interesting. I should just say that.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Yeah, and we're gonna just um keep it like that. But that track was supposed to be original inspiration, and this episode was supposed to be the first episode where we talk about music. Yes, music, music, and our relationship with music.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Let's go.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

Okay, you know it.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

I okay it was a meme, that's why I know it. Like a lot of the references you guys will make will if I get it, it's probably because it was a meme. So I have a question. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

What I'm How black are you? Dude. What was your first encounter with music? How do I even how do I even answer that? Like, it's just like when did it become in your ecosystem of existence?

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

When did it come into your ecosystem? Like when was the first thing you were like, okay, this is this is what music is?

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

I from a from a young age, when I first started living, when it was foster care, those first few years, that's you that's I think that's when it started becoming a real thing. And from what I I was living with my uncle at the time, and they would have a radio, like the big heavy ass silver circular radio. I don't know. And it was like they would play, you know, radio songs. And that was one of the first times I really brought a something. I picked up something and purposely put it in the bathroom to listen to something. And I had songs that I liked. Like there was that one song, Stereo Heart, Oh, my heart's a stereo. Yeah. And songs like that where I will listen to that stuff. I'm like, okay, I kind of I'm kind of into this. And of course, it wasn't really until my exposure with the different types of games that I really started getting into music. Cause I'm like, oh my God, this this track right here, I won't I wish I could listen to this like forever. Like I wish I could like isolate this and just listen to the music by itself. And that's when it started becoming like, hey, music exists. It's like something you can appreciate. I'm like, yo, okay. And so it's just like I play a lot of different types of games and I'll just keep like getting exposed to stuff that I would like. And like, of course, my first exposure was that radio, but like when I started playing games, that's when it was like, oh, everywhere. And it wasn't until 2014 when I had found this track. Okay. So you know Mario Kart Wii. Okay, yeah. You're great. You know without a game. There's a game, there's a there's a stage in that game, a a track in that game called Maple Tree Way. Okay. And that's like it's an autumn, it's an autumn-themed stage or whatever. It's beautiful. It's great.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

Come on. Everybody knows Mario Kart Wii, though. That's like one of those ones. It probably is, but yeah. You ain't play it? I did play it. Yeah, yeah, no, I did play it. You explained Mario Kart Wii. Yeah, I have my play Mario Wii. I have a hard time remembering that it was like a doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. Oh my god. Something like that. Yeah, I guess it was a little doo doo doo doing it. I'll be able to recognize it, but like I couldn't, I'll be like a pull out the narrow.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

Okay. Well, I I'm guessing you at least got the idea. So real. Yeah. And that track really resonated with me because I'm I was a big fall kid, and I still am. And I remember when I was on my dad's laptop, I was like, I kind of for some reason looked it up. And then I was like, hey, this is just a music isolated by itself. And I just listened to it. I'm like, oh my gosh, you could just find music on YouTube and just listen to it by itself. And that was the beginning of everything. I said, bitch. I now have two playlists. One is collection of an arts artist soundtrack where I have all my like different tracks from different things that are like from games or whatnot that I'm I really into. And then I have my other playlist where it's songs from songs that make spirits shine. And that's like music from people who have given me music and made me think about things, experiences, phases of my life, that sort of thing. And I am in the that thing where it's like I have different modes where sometimes I want to listen to music that normal people listen to, quotations, where it's just like that music that I vibe with and just has that type of that type of feel to it that feels like for lack of a better term, like human. And then I have my video game music that's like inspires me, that puts me in my mood, that puts me in my that that like it makes me feel good. And I'm always, always like in both those modes where it's just like, yeah, this is both these types of things contribute so much to my life.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

So it's interesting that you're saying that you have uh different playlists to kind of match your mood or whatnot. Yeah. So I think that's good to do because I also have playlists to match my mood. Like I have a shower playlist, I have um going out to curb playlists, like just different playlists to kind of get me in the mood for whatever about whatever's about to happen. So that's interesting. So um, how about your relationship with the music? Like, when did that start? Yeah, so I think when it started, I I would think it would start with probably Disney movies. I think watching Disney movies and hearing the music in Disney movies, I was like, oh, this is kind of nice. I kind of like this. And also, like that's me personally, like my own personal. Like, yeah, you we're on a podcast talking about our ourselves, so I hope it's you personally. Right. Yeah. When we get the camera, bitch, when we get some camera, we can fucking see your fucking asses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:27

The face you just gave me, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Anyways. I meant that my parents were also really into music. So like they would play music on the radio. They would play songs and shit like that. The songs they like. And I like the the first couple songs that I would like would be the ones that they like too, because they would play it on me. Fucking, they play Malcolm Jackson all the time. You know what my mom really liked? The song she really liked. Was it Mary J. Budge?

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Yes. Um did every black mom just love me. I mean, yes, but like that's crazy. It's fine by Mary J. Budge.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

I could probably recite that song by my. Like, literally, like, probably if you're a black, like you're your female, like, caretakers, whoever they were. Yeah, whoever they were. They probably have listened to that song at least twice back to back to back. Right. At least twice, at least, maybe at least maybe playing it, overplaying it. Right. Like mommy would bust down to that song. Like, she loved that song. Like, something about this joint right here. Okay, this joint right here. That part right there, girl, like she loved that song. And so, like, because I think with music, too, you listen to it a whole bunch of time, it gets catchy and gets into your system. Yeah. So, like, the songs that they would play, I would like too, right? Yeah, real. But I think the first person that like the first musical artist that I was like really into, fucking Raven Simone. So, like the theme song or like the actual like her actual music. And like last year. She had music? Yeah, she had music. I didn't know that. She had music, music. Like, she she the first song that I remember, because I don't know if you know this, but like, you know, like in a car, but back then, like, in the car, you'd have those little mini TVs on the backseat. Yeah. You can watch TV on it or watch movies. I play, like, every day going into school, when my mom would take me to school, I would play the Lion King movie. Like, not the Lion King movie, but like the um The Damn. The damn. The damn the song. I don't know if you know the song. It's called Grazing in the Grass. Fuck no. Is that it's a beat. If you were into jazz music, I feel like it would be like you would know what I'm talking about. Okay. But like Raven Simone made her own rendition of Grazing in the Grass for the Lion King movie. Oh, real. And I think it was like Lion King one and a half or something like that. I think it's one of those movies. Probably. So I I would play that music video like almost every single day going into school. Like Yeah, like you know, you have to. It's a Bob. Like it's a Bob. It's an actual Bob. Um and I loved it. And so like me getting into that, I got into her. I found out about her other music. So in school, like in actual school, like I don't know if you remember this, like those fundraisers that people would do. Like chocolate the chocolate. Yeah. There you would sell like different cookies and can't like Christmas stuff, Christmas ornaments, Christmas wreaths at one point. Oh, wreaths? So the fundraiser, one of the prize that you got after you sold a certain amount of things was an MP3 player.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

And my dad would always take the packet or whatever to his job and like every buy his shit or buy my stuff and then like he would um I would get the I would get the top prize like at one point like he said excuse me excuse me dang I got an MP3 player I got a limousine ride to fucking it was it was it was to a pizza place I forgot to be in a pizza place it was a limousine ride to pizza place like during during school like they had some crazy ass prize yeah this does not sound real I got a slinky I got different toys like you know what I'm talking about like different forces in this economy they would never get that out right but like that limousine ride like especially as like a kid like you've never being in a limousine ride like it was crazy so that yeah that limousine ride was we real I was about to say wheel because that limousine ride was real like you just got the ride in a limousine to a pizza place to a pizza place yeah as a kid yeah it was crazy so specifically I got the MP3 player right you remember how much it was like how many things you need to get no I don't remember how much it was but it wasn't even like it wasn't an iPod it was like an MP3 player so it wasn't like fancy dancy spancy but like I think either my dad told me how to upload music to it or whatever. I don't know I just I don't know okay okay so I remember the first song that I had on it that I uploaded was called backflip by Braven Simone. And if you don't know the song the whole song is basically talking about like I want to see you backflip like nigga she said nigga she was basically it was it was it was a she was still in her Disney era and so she couldn't really do a whole bunch of crazy stuff. So like I didn't think so she made a RB song talking about basically like step it up like do like don't just give me don't half ass me don't half ass what you're doing like be fully about me like I want to see you backflip like basically doing backflips for my figuratively backflips for me right and so that was the first song that I add on to the MP3 but that's what I remember right and I used to listen to it all the time I had my MP3 playing little headphones whatever and it was such a great song now flash forward fast fast forward fast forward to maybe like how long ago was it maybe like three or four years ago maybe now because it's 2026. I probably did it in 2020 it was probably right before I went into college or why to start teaching the first my first remix that I created as trade it wasn't it was me as the rapper I wasn't officially trademarked yet but I was still a rapper writing raps I've been writing raps since I was a like in teen like a teen I was writing raps but the first real remix I was able to sit down and record my vocals over an instrumental version of the track and like mix it into like what it to make it sound like a full complete remix was backflip by Raven Simone. Holy shit yeah like it was my one of my first verses that I ever wrote bitch I was I was in my um my straight bag so I act like I was a straight dude talking to Raven Simone like trade before I was right right okay so it was like the verse was like um I gotta keep it real with you um I forgot what I said but basically just adding on to her and like not egging her on saying that like bitch I will do for you what you want me to do. Right, right supporting her for real in that way. Right and like some I don't remember the words right now I think that's crazy losing my mind right they're losing not losing my mind but they're not coming to my mind right now. But like it was a whole verse that I wrote and it was a first like one of my first remix that I showed to my parents and I showed to like my um family and they were like oh shit this sounds like real it sounds like you just because like I got into Reaper have you heard of Reaper? No is this music stuff Reaper yeah it's a this is music stuff. So it's a digital audio workspace if you know what that is a DAO that's what that means. Yeah digital audio workstation or workspace something like that where you edit and mix and record songs. And so that was the first song that I actually was able to pull an instrumental and pull it together and make it sound like an actual like remix.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Like an actual song that you produced.

SPEAKER_03 48:27

Right so that was my first like encounter with music was Raven Simone. Like and she was on Disney Channel. So Raven Simone that bitch like she like I said you can say what you want like she's probably had some little rocky patches as far as being in the public eye but like she's as far as I know she's not on drugs she's not strung out nowhere she's not like she's doing pretty well for herself and she's yeah so did you see the reboot that they had or something yeah Ravens oh yes I love that I loved that I um I was watching for a little while but then I thought I didn't get any I I don't pay for TV and so like I don't if you pay for TV in 226 you might be losing I'm not gonna lie you're washed if you're paying for cable in 2026 you're washed your chops I know who you are like bitch paying $100 out the fucking wazoo for a month like this is craziness. So yeah that was my first encounter with music um so I have another question for you.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

That's beautiful okay yeah yeah what's the question as a nigga yeah I guess as you like what do you think what do you think I fuck everybody else okay what do you think I would be surprised to know that you listen to and love as like music that is a good question because I remember so you know we were talking about some stuff trying to get the ideas or whatever this came up and I had mentioned something I forgot what I said but you said something that actually didn't surprise me. And so I'm waiting for that answer. But um something that would the something that I think is probably usually okay you know Wale, right? Okay. So he has a couple good songs that I I continuously listen to love and loyalty okay and Sue Me are like my top songs from him. I love his song Okay I think listen to it.

SPEAKER_03 50:31

We'll get back to you never heard you've never heard Sue me or Love Be Love to how they go I I oh um I don't know the nigga says his favorite two favorite songs right okay okay okay um um sue me is like you don't have to do it you don't have to do it we'll listen to it we'll get back to the okay here we are we get back to the quibble do not trademark that shit do not we get back to the quibble because we're quack all week because we're quack and we don't go to the crib hoe what the fuck is a crib? We go to the motherfucking quib okay when y'all start learning about the goddamn quroak quanicles the quote quonicles we have a whole villain a whole villain team we have a whole fucking villain arc story yes apparently a whole group of a a group of people that are basically our reflections of us alter egos alter egos that don't that we don't fuck with yeah fuck them up we're gonna fuck so so wale sue me and what's it called loyalty and love and loyalty love and loyalty there's a wale and then there's like a couple of you guys you showed me Paramore actually really a while back yes I put you to Paramount yeah I think we were not putting bitches on the Paramount what the fuck ain't it fun yeah no oh god that song very much resonates nowadays god damn yeah but yes paramore ain't it fun and something else she a couple of songs from her um and if there would be one more artist oh my gosh no I'm not saying Harry Styles I'm not saying packing out the discoys does anybody fuck with Perry Styles a Harry Styles I'm gonna say Perry Styles who the fuck Perry um dang what's another one I know I hate how I know so many songs I'm gonna tell you a new one actually I'm gonna tell you a new one so I'm gonna let me look at my phone for like five seconds to find this artist because I found this song by myself and I've I've been listening to it for a very good minute.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

What type of song is it? Um when you say what type of song like what genre what genre song damn my R D pop I'm gonna say it's a slow song. Don't you fucking dare play this shit I won't put it um there's a couple please let me look at my library right quick let me look at my library um it's from an artist I've only heard this one song from her name is Raven Lenae okay she's she's just I don't know a whole bunch about her okay but I've heard her name a couple of times have you listened to any of her tracks though? No. Okay so she has a song called Love Me Not and I want to tell you I can't stop playing that shit. Oh my gosh. And there's also this other person called Madison McFaron I've heard of her oh this one song called Ain't It Nice. Okay. Them two songs have been in my rotation for like the last month or two now and I'm I just can't stop loving it. Like I've been in a mood I guess I want to say and it's just like them songs they don't resonate they don't resonate with me but they have that vibe that I just kind of like I feel like I need yeah and then they're black females they're black female artists and they are pretty great. Yeah um if I want to mention one more artist just sorry gotta mention one more no name or no name you've heard of her please you've you've never heard of no I haven't heard you know the reason why I heard about her why she got into a beef with Jake oh god yeah I think if I'm not mistaken she got into like a beef with Jake because I I forgot how it started I think it was right before the whole Kendrick situation I think if I'm not mistaken how what did she get wrapped up in with him?

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Honestly I don't know I need to look more into it but like I don't know but she basically was saying like I'm not gonna say that because I really don't know but he J. Cole came back at her not maliciously but with the like why am I like how did I get in like how did I get into this right yeah and she and he responded to her like that and then I guess she responded like well why I don't remember how it goes.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

If you know the lore is this tell me is this through the power of music or is this just like really communication? Are they what? Are they making is this through the power of music?

SPEAKER_03 55:06

Are they like making distracts about each other or I wouldn't say it was a necessarily distract it might have been I I don't know a whole bunch about it but like that I know they got into like a little bit of a beef. Okay. It wasn't like they were going bar for bar writing distracts about each other like as far as I know I could be completely wrong but they weren't it it wasn't like back to back to back. Because she's no name or no name I don't know how you say her name either she's more of an from I don't know her music like that.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

I I know a couple I know like maybe three or four of her songs right now. I have to say I love her music her beats are really my thing for real um I will say her lyrics do be a little a little interesting like one of the one of the lyrics is my pussy wrote an essay on uh colonialism do you understand what the fuck that means my pussy wrote a essay on colonialism well I don't know what she might have intended for that to mean but I'm thinking like my pussy so powerful that it fucking have to go back to that okay you still like my pussy my pussy so powerful that it colonized nations that rule the world like something like that and I'm able to write it can I and I guess maybe she's saying that her pen is so great that she can do that.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Yeah maybe I don't know tang can do tang her pen like her like actual writing she's writing that's that's that's what my interpretation of it is see I she can mean something completely different I have no idea the interpretation just the lyric itself is just funny as fuck to me.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

That's basically like I want to say I don't want to say because there might be so no some no name fans out there or whatever her music is great. Her music is so good but that is like a perfect encapsulation of how she does her lyrics sometimes it's so funny to me. Yeah um she has um Self which is her most popular I think one of her more popular tracks everybody knows Self um and then she has this one album I forgot what it's called but it has this wonderful um album image she has and on that one it's she has Boom Boom Beauty Supply and what other song I really resonated with I think it was called Black Mirror I gotta we're gonna listen to some songs I guess we'll see that's for sure because oh my god I love her music so much so the person that I feel like you would be surprised that I listen to that I fuck with like a like heavy Carrie Underwood you did say this yeah this yeah I fuck I know you bitches are like it's Carrie Underwood what the fuck I forgot you had a whole Carrie Underwood can fucking get it she I love her writing I love her singing I didn't watch her while she was on American I was like I didn't find out this we this is how I found out about Kira Underwood okay um my mom had like a little radio player it was like a I guess it was like a Walkman I guess like a portable radio I guess I'm bitch I'm before my time before my time before my time so she had like a portable Walkman and she would let me play with it and it was like an old thing that I it just needed batteries right and it would connect to the radio and so I didn't know the radio stations I didn't know the quote unquote black stations and so like I was just scrolling through the music and like I would just scroll like just scan through the channels right and I think what was playing I think Cowboy Casanova was playing and if you don't know that song that song you just listen to it Cowboy Casanova it's a country like say if you don't know what you're saying that's what it is y'all fuck a fucking country I like me some country like I'm not like a diehard country fan like that but I do like me some country music. You will catch a black person admitting that they like at least a a country artist but you will never hear them say they are a hardcore fan.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

Because you were the first third person I heard say that it's a little bit of racism. There's a little bit of racism like just sprinkling in through country music like it's just a little bit interesting like I think now going into country music there's more people there's more black people like Beyonce starting to do country music and kind of break down barriers like she was the only one like there's more than just Beyonce making country like as a black artist making country music. Yeah but she I think was the first mainstream person like mainstream black person to be making some country music that I know about like I think Lulolox actually became more mainstream after his um I wouldn't even count it as a country you wouldn't count it as a country I was I mean I would count it as like a pop-ish country I guess okay but it's yeah but there's not black I would fucking know it's fucking country music I don't listen to this shit that's still one term I can't understand. Just put it out there but there's more people coming out and making country more people of color more black people coming out and make that I'm becoming more aware of because of Beyonce so I know there's more people out there that aren't connected to Beyonce like K Michelle like I love K Michelle like I knew Kay Michelle before like right like when she was on Love and Hip Hop which is a reality TV show if you don't know. Everybody gotta know that yeah so she like right before like right on Love and Hip Hop that's when I found no it was called VSOP K Michelle made the song VSOP and it's it's a liquor What'd you just call me? Okay what is a liquor okay what is a liquor so it's it's she had that song it was an RB song that came out I was obsessed with that song we gonna light some candles tonight yeah it was up I was obsessed with that song I play all the song I play all the time saw the music video all the time so I love KHL she started to do now she started do country music which I am here for I know some of you bitches don't like her which is understandable. Why wouldn't they she has a mouth and she will say what she says and mean what she like she says what she means she means what she says. One of those people okay yes one of those people like she has a very like raw energy I think it's become more refined as she's gotten older as you can kind of see like right now she's on she's on um Rule Housewives of Atlanta I haven't watched the show because I don't have cable I was gonna say but um she she's become more refined in that and I think because now that she's going into the country music space she's like okay I need to not necessarily be less of myself but have some more like refined and I don't want to say decorum and cooth because I feel like that I'm not the expert on that bitch I don't have see I don't have decorum and cooth what fucking decorum do you think we fucking have right but I love Kay Michelle like I do I love her I love her music I love her. I made I made a TikTok video about her when I was making um little TikToks making TikToks about my musical inspirations like she's one of my musical inspirations because I love her um and also big one this is your big one right here this is a big one because Carrie under it was already fucking crazy. Yeah this is this is a surprise it should not be a surprise Harry Styles I know she's I know she's getting canceled I know she's she's she's she's she I know you're she treat what I'm talking about what is she Trey y'all know who I'm talking about who is it Nikki Minaj no one's surprised by this I I like I said I love her music I am a I wouldn't say I'm a barb barb I'm not like obsessed with her I love her music I will recite her music all the time stop no way you're gonna lie to people like this I cannot let I cannot let you lie to people like this stop won't you just stop looking yeah so I can like I said I I love her I like I said I understand what she's going through right now I don't understand what she's going through right now but like this whole like MAGA menage I I don't understand it I don't know what's going on so I'm not gonna speak on it about I'm not gonna speak on it a whole bunch because I don't know what's going on but I do love her as an artist I appreciate her what she's done in her music career like she's a lot of my inspiration I get a lot and I mean when I say a lot I mean a lot of my inspiration from her and her creativity and her pen. Yeah like she is that bitch as a musical artist.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

Okay so let me put this out here um our group is a cult okay Nikki Nikki is she is the she is the epitome she's a pinnacle of uh a music understanding in our group and me I know like maybe like two or five Nicki Minaj songs by heart and let me tell you if if what y'all do when you recite every fucking song she's ever made is not obsession I need to know what obsession is okay what is obsession we're when we do it in our group I think it's a watered down version of what everyone else does.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:28

Like we will recite it and we yeah I would say compared to what other people might do. I gotta know what other people be doing what the fuck bitch I feel like they'd be signing her in arguments. Okay I guess that's created literally living their life to her words I don't put her I don't put her I used to but not anymore but I used to put her fucking she she used to stay with fucking Instagram captions. She would stay with those because her raps her raps her writing her fucking pen her pen wrote was so ingenious that those little one-liners would be just so good to have as fucking Instagram captions. They're iconic they're I yes they're iconic and like I said I know I know she is going through whatever she's going through right now but I'm still gonna I'm still gonna listen to her music. I'm not gonna we're canceled I'm not gonna support we're canceled I might not support her political views right now but we're not we're not gonna speak too much on it but it's just like yeah I I mean I'm still gonna listen to music I still love her I'm a stick besider. It's okay I'm a stick besider. I listen to Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

Yeah um so yeah that's that's our beginning with music that's our beginning um our relationship now with music how would you say it's changed from when you first started kind of listening um well now I've become

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

A creator in music and not just an observer and a listener.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:10

So I have the ability to listen to music and be like, well, what can I add to this? How can I add to this song? Like the last remix that I made was to um the reason why this shit's not out because I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

You gotta talk about your unreleased music?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:29

Yeah, like I can't. You're really not supposed to put out a remix of someone else's song if it's not like an official remix.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

Yeah, you gotta get licensing to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:38

So you gotta get licensing all that shit. So I just make quote unquote TikTok videos about them. So the the last kind of remix, I only I'm not I'm not even gonna call it that. The last like verse that I put on that I put my verse to was a song called Be Great by Jill Scott. And Jill Scott just leaves the album out. It's called To Whom This May Concern. Love the album, love the beats, love her music. But I specifically love this song called Be Great because of the messaging behind the song and this this fanfare, this college you HBCU fucking fanfare that she has going on in the background. That I think that one guy, Trum Moan Shorty. I don't know if you I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:23

Who the hell?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

He's a musical artist. He he's um musical artist. I think he played all the instruments, he made it sound like an HBCU band was playing in the background of the song. By himself. Yeah, but I'm thinking by himself. I don't know the musical process, I don't know how he did it. Yeah, but yeah, and so it's I was inspired by the song, and so I was like, let me add a verse to this. Let me add a verse to this so what I can see what I can do to add to the song, right? So if you'll find a TikTok, bitch, get to Jill Scott, and so so that we can collab and make a fucking remix. So um That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. Yeah, that'd be wild. That'd be crazy. What you were saying. Yeah. Um, and so that's what I can do with music now. Like I can't, I don't have to necessarily just be an an observer. I can now be a participant in the zeitgeist of what music is.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

And that's exciting for me. Like I can be a still an observer and just absorb music and have it in my um psyche and just like appreciate what music is. And it's so it's just so monumental to me in my life right now. I can't imagine my life without music. I'm not this sounds about sound crazy. But like I can't. Like it's just in my nature, it's in my being to be a musical artist, not necessarily a musical artist, but just be musical. It's just naturally in me.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

That's like the beauty of art, quite literally. Yeah. Like it is in so many different ways, it it becomes you. And like music is inspiring more music. It inspires you to create more music, and that's like the best part. That's the best part about being able to make something. Because you make something, it's gonna touch somebody in some way, and it's gonna inspire them to make something else, or inspire them to do something that will inspire someone else to do something. And it's just it's this never-ending path of just more creation being done. And that's why humans are beautiful. Art is beautiful, golly.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:31

So, like I said, I love music. Um, it's music, it's music is my life.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

Music is your life.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:37

So, what's I think this is the last thing we're gonna talk about. How much time do we got left? Bitch, starting up an hour. It'll have been an hour? Yes, bitch, we be we be talking. Are y'all bored? You need a little jiggle.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

You need to jiggle the keys for you. You want me to jiggle the keys? Okay, are y'all bored? Some Subway Surfers.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

Subway surfers. Um we're eventually gonna get to this TikTok, not today. Oh, y'all need to do this TikTok. It might be the next episode. It might be the next episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:00

No, but we've been talking about it. TikTok will be so old.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:06

Right. So, um, what is your relationship with music? And then we will um probably go now. What's your relationship with music now?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:16

So that's beautiful because all right. Um I had my own thing uh with like music and downloading. When I was in high school, my last few years in high school, I took a like uh let's say game development class. I did like little three 3D modeling. And of course, on the school monitors, mu um YouTube was blocked. Like you can't go on there or whatever. So we find alternatives, and I found a few, and a few were like really good to the point where I started to like find ways to actually download music. And I have I have to find this phone, but I have a phone full of music that I've downloaded from over the years, from like when I was a freshman to a senior, and just like full of like songs I used to listen to. And my playlists are also the same way where they have songs from when I was first like starting up. I think my my collection of an artist soundtrack playlist that was started like maybe when I first got into ninth grade, tenth grade, one of the two. And my spongs that my experience shine was my was my freshman year of of college, and they are like show they sh they are showings of just like how my music has evolved or like how my interest in music has evolved. And I've been experiencing like stuff where it's just like dang, I wouldn't listen to this. Like I see the stuff at the top, and I'm like, I wouldn't listen to this nowadays, like too often, but I still would listen to it. And it's just like I love seeing the different types of phases in my life, how it's just like, oh, you know, I remember the person that introduced me to this person, and they're like a bunch of uh songs from this phase of my life in that one area in the playlist, and it's just like, oh wow, you were this type of person back then, and now you're just like this, and like the different types of ways that like I appreciate music. And I I still nowadays I feel like I have to kind of like make sure I kind of still have a good in-touch like feeling with my younger self. So there are still gonna be some songs that like feel like something my my younger self would still listen to if the if it existed at that time, and I just kind of like add that to the playlist sometimes. It's just like this beautiful thing. I'm a I think that's like a big thing for me where I'm like I have a really like interesting connection with my younger self. Like I think that's a thing. And music is one of the ways that I just get to like feel that out. Like, oh my god, there is this there are those moments where you're just by yourself and you listen to this like really slow music, this somber music, or maybe like something that's just like peaceful, and it's just it it takes you somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, like oh my god, there's just some songs I listen to where it just reminds me of childhood, and I just I just kind of wish I could just stay there for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:20

Yeah, I think it's interesting, like when you were talking about your inner child and being more friends than him. Um I've just reached like in the past couple of months, and I haven't done a little I haven't done any work with him in a little while, but just talking to my inner child and imagining like what he would look like and what how he would feel about me now today, yeah, who I am as a quack individual, fully, a fully actual not fully actualized, I'm still coming into my own, but like a more actualized version of himself, yeah. Like what he would say and like how he would how excited he would be. So I think it's good that you spend that time with him, your inner child, and you you you talk to him through music and you relate to him through music. That that's a beautiful thing. Like my grandma always says, that's a beautiful thing. That's your bot, that's your grandma's catchphrase. Yeah, it is. Okay, real. I got a tattoo. Oh, for real? Yeah, it says it's a it's a car. You can't really see it because it's kind of hard. Oh, you're a black.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:22

I hadn't noticed. Okay. No, no, you should have the fucking implement thing. I hadn't noticed.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:27

Oh, yeah. Right. Um, but it's a carinal because um that's a state bird from North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:34

And you love us. I guess. I just love carinels because they're red birds. I love red, and they just mean, I don't know what they mean, but they have a significance. They do have some kind of some type of significance. But with on the bottom of the tattoo, it says T-A-B-T. Stanford, that's a beautiful thing. So that's my grandma's catchphrase. So that's I think I've heard you say that before for all. Yeah. Well, well, yeah, now you know. Well, that's a quack.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

That's a quack. That's a quack. Is that how we end these things now? That's a quack. Um guys, thank you so much for being here and thank you so much for listening to us. Um, of course, I can't wait to make more episodes.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:16

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SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Yes.

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We can get to get there. Kind of get this ball rolling.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

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SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

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SPEAKER_01 1:16:58

Oh, yeah, please do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:00

But yeah, that's a quack. All right, that's a quack. All right, bye, y'all. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:06

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