The Grind

They're back and on the apps! Trey and JJ talk about the infamous "apps": from dating apps to hookup apps and everything in between. JJ finds his cuddle buddy and Trey gets an unsolicited tallywhacker pic.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Your listeners do and radio Yeah, I'm a bad bitch, I bite, keep it up all night, all night pull up, it's on fire, don't stay pressed, but the wanna kick the light. I get my bit, get my cat, I'm on my cat, get back flash, expand, backslash, I get cat, I'm a bad bitch, I park, you rockin' with a like mark, get bad, let's start, close with that, we're about to make a mark. I'm a bad bitch, I park, you rockin' with a like mark, get back, let's start, close with that, we're about to make a mark. You're listening to UX radio. Yeah. Hey. Another day, another gay. Yeah, another day, another gay. All right, that's a good, that's a good one. That's a good one. We should keep that.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

Let's not keep that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Why not? Another day, another gay.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

Welcome back to Quack AF. Right. I'm JJ. I'm Trey. And we're Quack AF.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Like I said, thank you for all your listeners, that all the listeners that have been coming to listen to us every week. Like I said, we know we had to take a little hiatus, but we're back. We're back. Back like we never fucking left. Ho. Back and quack. Okay. Back and quack. Back on quack. Yeah, we came back on Prime Month during Prime Month. Yeah, perfect, actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

Got a whole month of podcasting to look forward to.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah, a whole month of podcast ideas to look forward to. Um listening to our voices, our crazy, our gay DHD. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

We're gonna really coin that one. Yeah, we should coin that one. Um and also, congratulations to other podcasts for 100 downloads. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yes, we just reached 100 downloads, y'all.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Thank you so much. Fuck into it. Yes, I'm so happy. Thank you to everybody who's coming listen to us. I really much appreciate it. Oh, please keep coming back.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Yes, keep coming back for more. We love to see it. We love to see it. Yeah. We love to hear y'all, we love to see y'all listen to us and react and everything. So we love it. So like I said, hit us up. Hit us up on TikTok, Instagram, all social media. Let us know that you're listening to the show. Like, we love that.

SPEAKER_04 2:26

The more you support us, the more we can support the community.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Yes, yes. Like I said, because we need more spaces like this. Like the reason why we started the show, like we need more spaces where people can just freely talk about their experiences as black and queer individuals.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

Yeah. And if you have any criticisms or any critiques, please let us know. We always want to be improving the show. So of course, we'll be happy to hear anything. Right.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

But you can like you can stick half that up your ass. Um, I mean you're already halfway through there. But yeah, no, we do want to hear suggestions. We want to make the show better, we want to hear critiques, we want to know how we can make the show better. Yeah, we do. Feedback to any degree. Feedback, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know, like I said, the last episode was a little shaky. A little shaky.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Shaky. Why is it shaky? Because the the technical difficulties.

SPEAKER_04 3:16

So this time, we should be all good. Yeah, we should be all good.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Trey was like, I got we give it 10 minutes today. Right. We should, yeah, we were we was on crunch time, y'all. Trying to get in here because I had my little, I had my had my therapy appointment just now today. Stay busy. Stay busy, ho. So, like I said, last episode was about mental health, so interesting. So, yeah, so I had to make sure we got here in time to record and do our thing because we are on a a time crunch. Always, yeah. Yeah, so but yeah, it's it's nice. While we have that time, how are you doing today, Trey? I'm good. Um, today was a weird day because uh at my job the the power went out yesterday during testing, like the end of your testing. Yeah. And so we they decided to use our hallway for the testing rooms for the people that need to make up their testing.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

The hallway?

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Like the classrooms. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, no, that's good. So I had to um we all had to go in the gym. Everyone that came to school that was a seventh grader had to go into the gym. And that was it was alright by me. They didn't do anything, they didn't act crazy, crazy. I mean, they were like a little antsy, but like the um the one of the teachers decided to take half the cla half the people that are in there outside that wanted to go outside. And so half of them went outside. So I ended up, I was watching a movie. I watched Kung Fu Panda 3.

SPEAKER_04 4:41

I'm sorry. Oh, when you say you, you're told it's just you.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

You're talking about me on my computer.

SPEAKER_04 4:44

Like class. You just you're just um before I'm about to watch.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

I watched Kung Fu Panda 3 and I watched the beginning of Moana.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Oh, wow, okay. Uh if we find time for media, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:57

Why Kung Fu Panda 3?

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Because I just bought it, like it was a G movie that I saw on YouTube that wasn't that expensive, I guess. Okay. And I ended up buying it for my students so that whenever we're like, it's a it's a boring day or we're eating in the classroom for lunch, I can put on a movie. I bought the Kung Fu Panda 3, I bought Moana, I bought Rio, I bought the Polar Express, I bought the Grinch, I bought a whole different array of movies. These are movies. Just so they can have a choice of what they want to watch. I know it's not like new new movies, but like it's still like give them a choice to watch movies.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

Considering where we are right now in media, um, I would prefer older movies than new ones. Because it's it's looking looking a little iffy when it comes to animation and uh just scripts and writers and stuff like that. It's just the industry right now is in a very interesting position.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Yeah, I think there's a lot of shows that are, like I said, talking about AI. Like I feel like there's a lot of shows and things that are written by AI. I'm like, how are you gonna make a whole show written by AI?

SPEAKER_04 6:00

I have seen a couple of them, and I they're not too big. It's just that the biggest catch for them right now is that they're written or are made by AI. That's their only appeal. I'm going to pray that this is on the same level as an NFT and all that shit back then, and it's gonna like die out because people are gonna see how stupid it is. Because that's that shit is like affecting uh everything. Like it in its own way. It's it's from what I've heard anyways, it's affecting a lot of like the environment as well as just every like everything we create, everything we are. Like it's like quite literally taking away a lot of uh jobs and stuff like that. So it's like I'm hoping as much as it doesn't seem like it right now, I'm hoping that this whole just this whole thing just dies out and we get to be uh humans again and argue about stuff that actually fucking matters and not shit that is stupid. But knowing America. I know in America, but we're not here to talk about America today.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Yeah, I think you're talking about the media. I think that should be a good episode. That's a good episode.

SPEAKER_04 7:03

Oh yeah, we do have a plan for that actually. Oh, we do? Yeah, it's called the Move to Media. Oh shit. Okay. I'm so glad I'm so glad I'm able to remind you of a couple of things too. Yeah, that's good. That's good that we have an episode for that. Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. It's gonna be really interesting. I am, I don't know if you know this, but I'm a really big fan of like um media, animation, uh uh uh just like a lot of different things. Uh movies. I'm a video game guy. Yeah. And you know, when you when I've you do the little hand thing, what are you about to do?

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Yeah, because you're like a video game uh an illustrator. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:37

It's like it kind of does everything shtick. Yeah. If I had to have one, but yeah, I know. So it's like I I can't wait to I can't wait to get into that. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully we have a little bit of a guest for that one. Okay. I'm look I'm looking forward to it. You know, yeah. Maybe. Because I don't know. I don't know if Trey's over here has culture to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

I would love to learn. I would love to ask questions and learn more about it. So yeah, that'll be fun.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

All right then. Then I'll make that a promise. When that episode comes out, not this month, but you know, when it comes. Yeah. Trey told me to stop making your promises.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

So I mean, shit. I'm serious. But like I love, I feel like we entice the listener with our ideas about different episodes so they can get used to it and they can like we have like some foreshadowing going on. Like, bitch, this is going on. This is this is serious. We got a motherfucking show that we have a structure, we have planned out episodes that we want to do. Like, this is some serious shit. Very this ain't this ain't no plane that's gonna fucking fly five feet and then fucking die or crash. Right. No, this is some serious shit. We are gonna get bigger and better every day. Like we love it, and we're excited. I'm excited to see where the show's gonna take off to.

SPEAKER_04 8:49

Personally, yeah, I'm I'm right there with you. I this is a essentially becoming a part of our life now. Yeah. To where it's about to be like a regular thing. So I'm looking forward to it. Them drives back to Greensboro are gonna suck ass, you know, because guys, but yeah, talking about yes at the fucking wazoo.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Out the fucking wazoo. I feel like we talked about it last episode too. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_04 9:08

I think we did.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

Well, prices are kind of high, so I wouldn't be too surprised, but like, yeah, no, it's crazy. Um we're not gonna go into the reasons why.

SPEAKER_04 9:16

If you know, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

If you know, you know. Cheeto, Cheeto.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Oh my God. Yeah. But anyways.

SPEAKER_04 9:25

Yeah, we have an actual thing to talk about today, and it's gonna be really fun. Um, if you're a gay person, you know you you love um uh what do you call it? Intimacy. You love, you love, what do you call it? Um, sex. Bucking. Yeah. Bucking. You're bucking. Today, we're gonna talk about those experiences. Now, not wait, okay, I got it. Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

Yeah, no, no, no, fucking. We already talked about that in our first episode. That was the first episode.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

You have to, we've we intimacy and sex, you have to find them some way. And there's some sort of medium that gets you to those avenues. Yeah, and it's on the same type of small device that you use to look up the weather. And unfortunately, the forecast for these apps is nasty.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Okay, yeah. So, like I said, we're talking about the apps. If that wasn't clear, we're talking about the apps. We're talking about the apps, we're talking about grinders, our experiences with sniffies. If you don't know what sniffy is, look it up.

SPEAKER_04 10:27

If we do you want to talk about um Tinder and all that jazz? Because that also is kind of a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah, I guess it's a part of the apps and how we connect as people to other gay people, other queer people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:39

We have to definitely mention Tammy or Tommy. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Taeimi.

SPEAKER_04 10:42

I'm gonna call it Tammy the entire episode. I'm gonna call it Tae Mi the entire episode. We're both gonna just be pissed. We're gonna we're both gonna just be pissed. Great. Okay. I'm not gonna be pissed. Okay. I'll say pressed bitch. I don't give a damn. What else? All right. Well. Oh what? I said ho. Oh, you call me a hoe. Okay, which is crazy because someone will be on these apps every other day.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Oh, so now we're whore shaming. Oh that's what's called sled shaming. That's what we're gonna say. Um how do you want to do this? You want to start with like each app and like just talk about our experience with each app? Okay, yeah. So let's get the big one out the way. Grindr. Okay, how do we how do you feel about that? How is how's that been for you? Well, grindr, I lost my virginity because of grinder. Yep, same. I can say that. So it's it's I feel like every gay person, I can't say every queer person, but I feel like every gay person has had some type of relationship with Grindr. Yeah. It was just the thing. I don't even know how I found out about Grindr, but I just it just popped up, not popped up on my phone, but like like second. But like I like I downloaded it, like, I don't even know if I had the impression of like, oh, I downloaded this specifically for sex, or did I find download this so I can find other gay people? Right. I don't know. But I was like, I think like 16, I think.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

Was this wasn't this the same um time when you that was your first experience? So that same age is when you had your first experience with uh broken car and shit.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we talked about in the first episode. If you don't know what we're talking about, look at the first episode. Um Being Quack AF. I was like, what the fuck was the name of the first episode? I can't remember. But yeah, being quack AF. Yeah, I know. Being quack AF, um, we talked about it, and we're not so we're not gonna talk about it again, but that was the first encounter that I had with Grindr. And I feel like I used it like to find gay people, but I also I think I did use it for Zag at the beginning. Yeah. And there it okay, I think with my uses of grinder, it exponentially grew. So like what did you say? I'm sorry. Exponentially grew.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Okay, because you said exponentially.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

No, I the fuck I didn't. Just because your bitch ass doesn't know what the fucking word means. And your your mind said, I don't know what the fuck you're saying. I did say exponential. Whatever. It exponentially grew to where I I had sex when I was in uh I was sixteen at the time. In high school, and I didn't do it again until maybe like senior year, I think it was. I think that's when it was. The next time it was senior year. So only two times while you were here. In col in high school, yeah. Okay. And then like in college, bitch, that shit flew sp spit off. Took a life of its own.

SPEAKER_04 13:39

If you have a bar graph, uh just you know, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Exponential. Straight up. Right. So with Grinder, Grindr, I feel like at the beginning wasn't it wasn't advertised as just purely as a sex app.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

Yeah. I don't think when I first got in high school, I was 2016. I don't think it was necessarily just a sex app.

SPEAKER_04 14:04

It was like just a queer approach.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

A queer app to meet other queer people. Right. Yeah. But then it's just like, well, what are you gonna do with these people? Of course, fuck. But it it it was it grinder, like I said, grind has a lot of potential, but what it is now is definitely like it's just a lot of it's used for sex.

SPEAKER_04 14:23

And I think the way that they advertise it now, because they didn't use you didn't used to always advertise it like this, but they now advertise it as the six app, you know, like the yeah, where it's just like, hey, you're you're going to meet people, you're going to fuck.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

It's like yeah, and now like I said, we can talk about it, but like Madonna's on there for some reason. Right. Like Madonna has a whole damn partnership with Grindr.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

Madonna's watching you while you're fucking.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Right, exactly. But now I think Grindr is doing that thing like that like the other apps, like the other social media apps are doing, like with Snapchat, Snapchat's whole thing was stories, right? Yeah. Now everything has a story. TikTok has stories, Instagram has stories, Facebook has stories, everything has stories.

SPEAKER_04 15:09

So Grindr has stories?

SPEAKER_02 15:11

No, Grindr doesn't have stories. Okay. But now Grindr has a map function.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Where you can kind of see where the everyone's at on the map. And like that is very comparable to Sniffy's. Sniffy's whole stick is their whole map. Like you just see a map of people and where they're at and where they are in relationship to you and all that jazz. But yeah, so I think with Grindr, like I said, now it's becoming more of a sex app. Like you're just using it purely for I feel like other people can use it for other things. Like they can actually connect and find community and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 15:42

I certainly have. I know for a fact I've made friends uh through Grindr. Now I can't say I still have those friends, but I did have good times with gay people at the time and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

I don't think I've met any friends off of Grinder. They've just been purely like fuck buddies? Yeah, just sex. And maybe not even fuck buddies, like just sex. Yeah, just like hookups.

SPEAKER_04 16:03

Like these aren't even like uh F UW FWB. These aren't these aren't those. They're just like okay, real.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

It's just been one-offs. And I like I didn't start looking for FWBs like I got a little bit older. I was like, you know what? I'm tired of these one-offs. Let me just do it more consistently with one person.

SPEAKER_04 16:18

But that's how I like, okay, so my experience with Grindr, it was like also during college, and I remember that I hadn't done apps for a very long time. I need to I need to let everyone know, right quick, 2016, I did not have a digital footprint. Like you could not find me at all. I was 16 years old without any type of digital footprint. And it wasn't until much later uh in high school where I kind of got exposed to like social media and whatever, like for real, for real. So I think it wasn't until like maybe like um my what was it, 2017 when I first made a Snapchat, and that was because of my whole thing. And so I didn't even start like doing dating anything until like college time. That was like maybe like 2019. And that's because my friend was introduced to it and she was used to it, and she was like, You should make one. And it was like, oh yeah, sure, I'll do that. And I was the first thing was Tender. And then from there, um, I don't even know how I remember running into grinder, but I found it, and I remember my first experience very well. Okay, because I got on the app, and then immediately a bunch of people texted me. Like a bunch of people saw me.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

He's fine as fuck, y'all. He's getting all these niggas in his motherfucking DM.

SPEAKER_04 17:38

Yeah. Well, um, very, very young JJ at that time did not want any of that. How old were you? Uh let's say 18, 19. Okay. Because we're still we this is like starting in college. Like fresh in college, okay. Um so I'm like 18, 19. I got all these text messages, I immediately delete the app. Like I'm not on that shit anymore. I was like, oh my god. And then I remember, I was like, well, I kind of want, I kind of want something. And so I got back on the app. And from then on out, I had my own experiences, a lot of different things and whatnot. But for I for sure I could say that I'm one of those people who has like, I have been addicted to that app, and it did become a problem for a point. And it wasn't until I made a specific connection with somebody where I strayed away from apps like that in general at all. And it was like, wow, okay. And it it it became like a part of my life where it was like now I I realize I don't really need those types of apps. Uh which is funny because right back today, I'm not on grinder and I'm not like ontainer or anything like that. Because nowadays I can I can definitely see like those are not for me. Like I remember last year when I was spiraling, I had an instance where I was like, you know what, frick it. I'm gonna go back on grinder. And I got it back on grinder and I was like, I'm not even here. I don't even want this for real. And then that's when I realized, like, yeah, no, what you like what I used to try and stop myself to do, I no longer have to put effort into it. I don't want to anymore. I don't want to have to deal with that. And I think right now in in this instance, I don't want to say that my friends have bad bad influences, but it is like interesting to see like my friends like you and Obsidian and be like, you know, I kind of want some of that. And I I kind of got back on sniffies. And being uh being on sniffies, actually talking about that really quickly because I do want to talk about that as well. I where did that come from? When did that start? Because Sniffies? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Okay, so this is how I learned about sniffies. There was a TikTok that went viral because this girl, this woman, was getting all these weird guys coming to her apartment.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

Oh, yum.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

And she made a TikTok video about it. She was like talking about these to these guys. She's like, Why are all these random guys just coming to my apartment? And the guy told her about sniffies, and she said that the guy must be using the wrong address or something. The wrong apartment address. Okay. So she didn't have a husband or something like that. No, I do a little secret. I think she was by herself. I think she's living by herself.

SPEAKER_04 20:10

Yeah, so it was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

So that's how I found out about sniffies. But I want to go back to what you were saying earlier before we go on. Okay, sorry. No, you're fine. A lot of people, a lot of queer people use the apps as a form of their social connectedness. So they connect other people. Yeah. And you're saying you were you were addicted to it at one point.

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Yes. Like it became a thing where I couldn't stop myself from like constantly checking it. And I used to have notifications, I would always check a notification, that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

So now, as somebody that doesn't use the apps as frequently, how do you connect with other queer people?

SPEAKER_04 20:47

I am literally in social spaces. Like I'm just so uh I go to events in public or I volunteer, something like that. And most of the places that I've been to, believe it or not, more queer people are there. Like there are just queer people in spaces. So if you're looking for it, you can find it. Um it's just a matter of having that bravery to actually pursue like talking to someone in public. That's that's the thing. That's really hard to do. Yeah. Because I In comparison to an app. Yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Well, the app is very easy. It's very quick, it's very fast, very I like you, you like me, let's fuck. Let's meet. Yeah. It's very quick. But meeting somebody in person, like it's a lot more, there's a lot more nuance to it. There's a lot more conversations that need to be had. And you can't even really tell if the person's like into you like that. Right. You don't even know if they're gay yet.

unknown 21:34

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Or if you do, like you still don't have to. So I remember we went to that concert for is it fifth floor?

SPEAKER_04 21:41

It was fifth floor, low a low b uh lowborn and bedroom deficient.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

That was my first concert, like a little like my first that was my first like close concert like that. And I was like, damn, I want to do this for sure. I want to do this. Yes. But there was a guy there that was really cute. He had like a nice jet. Do you remember him? I remember. You almost called him out. Did I? You almost like, oh, you're talking about him? You talking about him? You talking about him? Like, damn, bitch.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

You know me. I gotta troll you at Luis.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

Right. He was really cute, and I was interested in him, but like he was probably a little bit older than me. He's probably I was 24, 25. I had to be 25 at the time. It just seemed like a long time ago, but I had to be 25 at the time. I was 25 at the time. Exactly. So I had to be 25 at the time. So I was 25. He might have been maybe almost 30, which isn't really that big of a difference. Are you like telling from like how he what he looked like? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

Okay, so you're just like inferring from what he looked like. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

And so he was attractive. I I showed interest in him, but like I don't think it was more like a I feel like he was just being nice, not like in a pity way, like sympathy way. But I feel like I don't know, there could have been something there if I pursued him a little bit more, but he didn't give me any signs like, oh, back off, bitch. I'm not fucking gay. See, exactly. I was not trying to say that word, but there we go. But yeah, he didn't, he didn't, um, he didn't give me those vibes. Okay. So he just seemed like he seemed like a cool guy, but yeah. Yeah. But anyways, I was talking about like having more conversations in in public with people and meeting people in public. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:11

And just having that type of confidence in yourself to just do that, make friends, make that sort of thing. And that's kind of what I pursue. But the thing the thing about it is when it comes to apps, you know. Quotations on this shit, because I don't believe in this, but you know you're on there for sex. Everyone's on there for sex. So like you want in the public, you can't just ask someone for sex up front. Dick pic.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

You can't just whip out your dick in front of people in public. Exactly. Right. Because you can send a dick pic to somebody on the app.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

Let me put it on the air, what is it called? Aircloud, Eric. Send them a fucking thing on the iPhone. You got a little aircloud. What is it called?

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Airdrop? Airdrop a dick pic? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_03 23:54

Yeah, airdrop a dick pic.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

That's a little scary. Because you can accidentally scare airdrop it's everybody that has airdrop on.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Oh, are you serious? Like everyone just see it?

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Everyone that has their airdrop on? Yeah, you can accidentally, if you don't click airdrop to specific people, yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. Like that happened. This is going on rangent, Tamble, tangent.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

There was a there was a person at my school. Do I really want to go into this door? I do want I don't think I want to go into it.

SPEAKER_04 24:21

You already don't mention it now.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Yeah, I guess I don't know what I mean now. There was a student at my school that was, it was two years ago. She I'm just gonna say it. She performed Felatio on a dog. Like just and not only did she do that, she recorded herself doing it. And not only did she do that and record herself doing it, she sent it to somebody. And not only did she record herself, not only did she do that, she recorded herself doing that, she sent it to somebody, she sent it to somebody that was, I guess, was wanted to see the chaos, and airdropped it to everybody in the school that had their airdrop on.

unknown 25:30

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

This is at your school.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

This is at my school, yeah. It's like so like actual, real Yeah. I'm not gonna say the school. Don't say yeah, don't but yeah, that happened two years ago.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

How did she survive socially after that?

SPEAKER_02 25:44

It was so embarrassing. She had to leave the school. She the only reason why, like she was she's about to fight the girl that was that airdropped the video to everybody. And she it wasn't my student, by the way. It wasn't my student that it was my student that sent the video to everybody. Let's do it never. But no, that's the thing. It was my student that sent the video to everybody. Uh but it wasn't my student that actually did the stuff in the video. Right. So she, like you said, she airdropped to everybody. Everybody had their airdrop on. Everybody that had their airdrop on that was able to accept it from everybody or anybody. No, I have it on contact only. And I'm gonna keep it on contact only because of this very specific ass fucking story. Because that's craziness. That is because then you start getting into like just the implications of like having it on your phone and like it's it's getting out there, people send it to everybody. It was craziness.

SPEAKER_04 26:47

15 different questions popped in my head as soon as you finished talking about the student sending it. Because how did she even acquire it?

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Like I said, the girl took a video. Who did the video sent it to her.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

To the your student, yes. And the student not only didn't give a fuck about her personality or her privacy or whatever. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

She was like, Woo! Right. And then like that, we're fucking, and it happened, it happened, I guess, the night before, and or the day of, that morning of the day of, I had a I had a fucking meeting. And it's like Was the meeting about that? No, the meeting was about it was a it was a different meeting. It was like a peer meeting. So it was like it happened, I think, during that meeting when she sent it to everybody. And so I remember my AP called in the girl to talk about it with her, and this, that, and the third. That's when I found out about it. I was like, oh, the fuck? On a dog? What the hell?

SPEAKER_04 27:51

You know how embarrassing a situation like that is just with a human.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Tell me why. Tell me why the kids in the cafeteria, when she was walking by, started barking at her. Like, for real. Like it was craziness. It was it was a crazy ass day. It was so crazy. Like, she would literally walk into the cafeteria, they all started barking. I was like, what the fuck is going on right now? We're in the fucking Twilight Zone.

SPEAKER_04 28:24

This is this is unreal. This does not sound real.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

It's real as fuck.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

Like, that does not sound like an actual thing that happened.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Yeah.

unknown 28:32

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Yeah. I why did you just change your glasses?

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Don't mention it in the audio version. Oh my god. Okay, well. I changed my glasses for a little bit. Yeah. I have an eye thing going on. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:48

Oh yeah. Yeah, I gotta say. But anyways, that's why I don't have an airdrop on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

And I would have it on just to see if that's sort of that shortest shortest. Fuck it. I would have it on just to see if that happens. Because what the fuck? That sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

No. I'm gonna sob right there. Because no, because that falls under the category. We don't need to get deep into it, but that falls in the category of fucking CP. Oh, okay. Well yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

So that's it. No, no, because okay, okay. I'm thinking of like other, it's just not specifically this one. That just sounds disgusting on all degrees.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:24

It's just like wild shit can just happen like that on your airdrop, and that's just insane to me.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

That's why I have it off. I don't want shit like that coming up on my fucking phone.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Why would anyone even have that on?

SPEAKER_02 29:34

I don't know. Like I said, they're 12 and 13. I don't know. But it was it was crazy. It was crazy as day. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

Yeah. No, that sounds that sounds oh my God. I feel so far. Sorry for it.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

It was wild. Um but anyways, going back to apps.

SPEAKER_04 29:50

Yeah, I get back to the app that's the reason why I don't have my eardrop on. How do we even get to that? We can't. Because I mentioned the idea of like actually going out and meeting people in person. Yeah, you can't just ask for sex. You need to properly like get to understand the person, get to know the person, and then you know, sex kind of happens on its own. Um but with apps, you're there. Quotations for sex.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

So it's like so that was grind. I think grinder is mainly a sex app. It doesn't have to be a sex app, but it's mainly a sex app.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Yeah. And other apps are as well. Yeah. It's because of just the community. I don't want to blame the community, but we we we have in our expectations, we have our things where it's just like, yeah, I kind of want this. I don't even know what the deal is, really. I can't even say because I'm not really popular uh uh contrary to popular belief. I'm not like the biggest sex person. I'm just like, I just get to do things and meet people. I like to meet people, is my thing. So it's just like I can't really understand why um things are so sex-centric when it comes to apps. But people are horny.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Men are horny. And I guess it's also like you don't get to really do that with people in the same way that um people, straight people would.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Right. And like I said, there there are like, what's the word? Not stigmas, but not biases or six, seven? No, yeah, right. If I go out to a bar, like if people go out, if straight people go out to a straight bar, I feel like they're they would have more easier a easier time finding sex. They're more likely to get to something at the end of the day. Right. To get to somebody because they're all there for them, not all there, but most of them are there to have sex too. The inclination. Like there's the idea has been over drinking and getting loosey-goosey. Yeah, I get to have a little fun. Right, right, right. So that that's why I think that it's a little bit easier for straight people to be to not use apps. But I think straight people use apps too. They use Tinder, they use the other straight apps. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:42

That's that's one of the questions that popped up in my head before, because it was like, are you it's like the only straight app that people really use just Tinder? Like I'm wondering, because there has to be more. There can't just like because obviously, if this idea of sex has been so ingrained in in males, is in well, sorry, more in so in gay people, then it's like, of course.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

I'm sorry, these glasses are given Willy Wonka. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

It is the Willy Wonka from um the TikTok from back in like 2000 something, 2020. You know, you know, 2020 Willy Wonka? He was like horny Willy Wonka. You know about that? No. Okay, so long story short, there was like a white guy who was dressed up as Willy Wonka, but he would have his shirt open. People were like really into it. I think his name was like Duke or something. It was like a whole popular name. Anyways, I'm gonna stay Willy Wonka today. Right. Uh as you should. As I should.

unknown 32:34

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

But yeah, no. Um there's I feel like a company would capitalize off of that. Like the idea that, you know, some people are just looking for sex, straight people quotation. So it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

I there's like, it just feels impossible that it's I feel like I feel like there's like this ill, a sex app. Like, I don't think there would be, there would be a stigma behind it. That's why I don't think there's like an actual straight app for it. People use Tinder, like Tinder, we can talk about Tinder next. People use Tinder for sex apps. Like, I feel like straight people use Tinder as a sex app.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

I want to talk about Tinder actually because oh my fucking God. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Because like I said, I feel like a lot of straight people, especially straight guys, will just swipe right on everybody. When you say right on, is right the good one? Yeah. Oh, that's the one. I think it is, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, you swipe, excuse me. You swipe right on everybody, and then just whoever matches, if I like them, I like them. If I don't, fuck it. I'm not gonna message you. Crazy mentality. Right. That's a lot of people have the mentality. A lot of straight people have the mentality, and a lot of gay people have the mentality. Queer people have the mentality. Is that why I got all my swipes? Because god damn. But yeah, Tinder. I actually I actually met a friend on Tinder.

unknown 33:49

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Uh yeah, we I'm just we could talk. Yeah, I met a friend on Tinder.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

Incognito in this? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Okay, I got you. There's no need to, I mean, no. Yeah. That's awkward as fuck. We didn't come up with a name frame, so I don't know. This is why. Yeah. This is why I like it. But yeah, I just met a friend on Tinder and it was it was a good friend for the time being. It kind of ended weird. But um Do you know what I'm talking about? Do I should I know who you're talking about? Yes, you should know who I'm talking about. So yeah, it it was a good friendship while it lasted, but I just it just ended like I'm not on a good note. I mean that was through Tinder. Yeah, it was Tinder. Okay, okay, real, real, real.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

Actually, I recall because they shared their experience with you and like their like how you guys met or whatever, and you guys went out for like a single thing, and then that uh the next time we got to meet them.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah, we decided to just be friends. I feel like I don't think that was clearly stated.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think you guys were interested in each other in that way.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

I don't think I I think we're just interested like friends-wise.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, so you kept telling me. I remember the first few weeks you were like, yeah, I think we'll just be friends.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

I'm like, Yeah. But like I said, I don't think I communicated with that with him specifically, and maybe I should have been a little bit more clear, and that would have maybe helped some things. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. But like I said, I met him on Tinder. Like I said, I started talking to all these different guys on Tinder, but like half of them would be wouldn't text back. This one guy I matched on Tinder, like I would send messages. I think we talked about this before, maybe off camera, but we are off the off camera now. Off mic.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

You I think you actually mentioned this in the first episode. Up to date gaze, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Up to date, yeah. So just uh he would I would message this long ass message, he would just like the message and just nothing, like we have not talked ever since. And I'm just like, I'm not gonna be the one. I'm and this goes for all apps, all people. I'm not gonna be the one that always initiates the conversation. Right. I can't be the one because if you're interested in me, there should be a back and forth, there should be some communication going on.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Quite a little.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

And with Tinder, I haven't really had those experiences. I have, I think I've had better experiences with people because they're not just looking for sex. Like when I meet people on Tinder, like they're not just looking for sex. Right. Yeah. The gay people that I've messaged on Tinder, they weren't looking for just sex, they're looking for more of a connection and like some communication, like conversation. That's what it's conversation.

SPEAKER_04 36:11

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Yeah. But I feel like you've had a different experience, dude.

SPEAKER_04 36:15

Please. Okay, so about a couple months ago, I had decided to get back on Tinder like very temporarily. Um, and I was having a really bad day. And I was texting, I I was on Tinder and texted the guy for a little bit, and I was like, okay, a cool vibe or whatever. He was gay. And you won't believe the questions bro was asking first. Go around. Hey, after a while, you would top or a bottom, talk about sex. Like, ooh, you know, you could, you could, you could write my pussy or something. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Can I say that on the podcast? Can I say that on the podcast? Can I say pussy on the podcast? Yeah, we already have and you're okay. Can I say pussy? Oh shit. I probably should take the little dangle off. Is this my Willy Wonka? The dangle. Can you have the dangle? Um, but yeah, no. Dude was asking about sex, and it was the funniest thing to me because I was like, of course. On the one app where I actually am looking for a genuine connection, I find just more gay people looking for sex. And that just kept happening. And it happened, and I'm trying to recall any moments where I did I had one uh or maybe, yeah, I know. I've only met really one person on Tinder before I actually like went into dating them. That was like for a year or so. And everyone after that was like a casual friend, or maybe a friend that we would like do sex stuff over the phone or something like that. Like it just kind of became sex, okay. Yeah, it be kind of it just became a thing. Or you know, Snapchat, that sort of thing. But yeah, yeah. It became just a thing of just sex, and it always kind of ended that way. And it that always bothers me, just how sex-centric gay people just become. Like, like it's just like an expectation now, and I hate it. I don't know if that's like recent how it is, or if it's like maybe I've just run into the wrong people.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

I don't know. Like I would say it's the apps, but I wouldn't say like Tinder would be a sex app for gay people. I feel like maybe they do use, I feel like other people might think other things. But me, my personal experience, I have not used Tinder for sex, I've used Tinder for a conversation and meeting other people.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Have you run into gay people and they're like, hey, sex stuff?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

No, like never. Well, how often?

SPEAKER_04 38:30

Not on Tinder.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Okay, no, on Tinder on Hinge. I have met this one guy. He was like, he just we messed we were talking on Instagram, and I stopped talking to him and he just sent a dick pic out of nowhere. I was like, oh. Right. Um, but I think that was just because I didn't. He was like, I guess he was like, well, he hasn't responded to me, so I might as well just send a fucking dick pic. Might as well. So that's what he sent.

SPEAKER_04 38:56

I guess it's just because of like expectation, just like, oh, if I send a dick pic, we can change this conversation to something else.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Right. Maybe I can actually link up with you. And it's just like, no, especially because the dick pic wasn't even that good. Hate to see it.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Hate to see it. Can we talk about dick pics?

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Yeah, we can.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

Because okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Well, we are talking about the apps actually, and uh primarily for us um gay people out there and other queer people as well. Dick picks are uh solicited or unsolicited. There are ugly ones and there were there are good ones. Right. Um boy, on Grinder, you will see some of the ugliest dicks you've ever seen in your life.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Yeah. The most fucking dry, pasty, they don't be thinking at all. Fucking half soft, like just curved, like not even a good looking curve, just like a lazy ass dick pic.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

What are you trying to give? What message do you want me to get? You want me to get off to this? Right. Of all things. Like, you want me to try? Right. Like, oh god. Yeah. I can't say I'm like, oh, dick pic expertise down here, but like, I I know a thing or two about how to make my dick look good. What the I've just uh and you know, of course, now Sniffy's newer newer edge, you can just have your dick as the profile picture.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

So it's like But not anymore. Oh shit, what? Because you have to well, not anymore in North Carolina, I think. Oh, it might be something because this whole thing where like I think it's a whole thing where you can't like how porn is getting like locked. Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 40:23

Where you can't I I feel like it's underneath that guy.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

Like you have to at least have your profile picture be like something like something that's not sex related. Something that's not a sexual organ. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:35

I wouldn't know because I don't have my dick on there at all. You know, because I'm not ridiculous. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

He said, he said, he said ridiculous, y'all. He said ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

What the hell? What the hell?

SPEAKER_04 40:50

Okay, but that's sniffies. I mean, there's more stories to that, of course. And there's Tinder, there's more stories to that, of course. And there's grinder.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

I feel like grinder, like I said, is more of a sex app.

unknown 41:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Tinder, I feel like is more of a connection. Sexual dating app. Yeah, dating app. Literally. Sniffies, straight up fucking. Like literally always sex. Straight up. That's the only. I like I said, when you said that you got on the Civis to look for somebody to cuddle, I was like, girl, what?

SPEAKER_04 41:20

But you know why I'm there. It's not really because of like, oh, you know, I want to cuddle and then run into sex. I'm and it's like a thing of just like I understand what the app is itself. It was just one of the easier ones. I'm not trying to explain myself for real for real. You get the idea. But it's just like, yeah, I really shouldn't be on Sniffy's looking for cuddling, but hey. I found it. Okay, yeah, he did, y'all. He did. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

I cut one, Mama. I cut one.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

Okay, yeah. But yeah, that's what that's what Sniffies is all about. Straight up cruising. Actual cruising, yeah. That's a cruising app for you. Literally. And it's interesting that they made a whole app for it used to be an app app. I did not know about that.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

I actually ran into Sniffies because of porn. Like I was on a porn site and then I saw Sniffies and I was like.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

Yeah, I think it used to be, I don't quote me on this. I think it used to be app app, because I think uh one of my friends, I think, had it like download on his phone, but like when it's deleted from the app store, you can't download it anymore. But like if it's already downloaded on your phone, it still stays on their phone.

SPEAKER_04 42:22

Question mark?

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Are you saying like the old version of this or what is this? Like the app sniffies, uh huh. If you download it while it was on the app store, it stays on your phone even if it's taken off the app store. Now people can't download anymore, like there are no more updates or anything like that. But the app still app still works if it was already on your phone.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

If it's still on your phone, you can still use it and you know, access the precision.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

But I don't think it was on for that long because it is a hookup app. And I like I said that ill hookups, ill, that's not okay. I think there's a stigma behind it.

SPEAKER_04 42:55

Yeah, and uh I I I honestly I don't want to say I don't encourage that because you know sex positivity is important. You should be okay with having sex, and I can't advocate for having sex so amazing. Okay. Uh, but I'm just like, damn, you know, I I I I'm just a person looking for getting to know gay people and sometimes on boyfriend vibes. So it's like, you know. Um, but those are those that's sniffies, that's grinders, that's um, what's it called? Tinder.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Tinder.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

Now let's talk about other ones. Actually, more boring ones, in fact. Why? Can you tell me about your hinge your hinge um uh uh experience? Oh hinge? Yes, please.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

So hinge is interesting because you can see the likes. So that's you know what I'm talking about. They let you text the I don't like to take the I They don't let you text them though, right? Yeah, they do. If you match them, yeah. Like if you but if you you'll see the like you can see your likes and you can match them and then you can start texting them. Like that's yeah, that's How Hinge works. It's designed to be deleted. That's the whole shit. So with Hinge, there was one guy, he was he was cuter in the pictures that were on Hinge.

SPEAKER_04 44:12

Damn. Oh, what the fuck? Love to hear that. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

He was cuter on the pictures um on Hinge. But then when I saw him on his Instagram, where you see a lot more pictures, a lot more angles, a lot more active. And it's just like, eh, I don't know. Yeah, he wasn't doing all that. Yeah, he wasn't doing all that for me anymore.

SPEAKER_04 44:31

Did you get to see him in person?

SPEAKER_02 44:32

No, I was not gonna see him in person.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

Oh, you so you got matched with him on Hinge, and then you went to check out his Instagram, and you were like, got back up.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

Yeah, but I gave him a little bit of a chance. He started testing back and forth, this, that, and the third. But then I guess I guess I just fell out. I just fell out of interest. Like I just got uninterested. So I just stopped texting him. And I I don't know what are you like, what are you supposed to do? What are you supposed to say with that? Like I've understood you, I'm still gonna stop talking to you, like, or just ghost them.

SPEAKER_04 44:58

That's the worst part of the culture. Like it's like when people don't say anything, they prefer to not say anything and just ghost people. Yeah. Like that ghosting has become such a big part of like I think texting culture in general that it's like, goddamn, it's it it leads to I I wanna say like pain, trauma, that sort of thing. And we continue to do it. Like that's it's the easiest way to stop something without really stopping it. Right. And it's just like I don't, I can't get down with that. I used to be like that, and then one time I had a always I had an epiphany where I was like, I'm no longer gonna ghost anybody. I'm just gonna tell them if I'm not interested, that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

So what do you say? You just like in my situation, we were texting back and forth, and I got bored. I'm like, I'm not interested in you anymore. Like, what would you do?

SPEAKER_04 45:43

Say those exact words like hey, um I I would have loved to give us a chance or something. No, no, no, no, no. Let me not say that. Look, I'm not interested in the way that I thought I was, I'm gonna just end things, sort of thing. Move move that, just move that forward. Just let people know, hey, I'm not interested at at all. Just make that straight apparent. Because the idea, I guess, behind ghosting is this is it's this silent goodbye. It's like the nice way of doing things. It's not as messy. Because if you tell someone that you're not gonna be there anymore, you in this way have to experience whatever kind of like grief they have over that, or if anything, like their emotions about it, you have to experience that to some degree. And so it's just like if you go someone, you don't have to experience anything because you haven't said anything. And the most that you'll see again is like another text from them, and then you'll be like, I'll have to ignore that now, and that sort of thing. And I'm just like it is better, you're you're a better human being if you were to tell people that you're not gonna talk to them, because then you understand you have that, you have that, let me say empathy, sympathy, fuck, I keep confusing the two. You have that empathy of their feelings, and just like, I I made this choice, I wanna let you know because I'm an adult that I made this choice, keep it clean, keep it simple, we're gonna keep moving. And most of the time when I've done that, people have just accepted it and we've separated separated our ways, especially on dating apps and stuff like that. Yeah. Um, there have been, of course, some messy times. Um, and when it comes to me and rejection, or I thought it was a big dick when I say this, but like when it comes to me and rejecting others, um it it it does get a little messy because feelings are there and people tend to feel like they were let on in some regards or something like that. But um it it still is accepted and we moved on forward and that sort of thing. So it's just like prefer to be honest with people over just choosing silent dishonesty.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Yeah, because if the shoe was on the other foot, I think I would prefer someone it's like if I was texting back before somebody and it seemed like they were interested and all of a sudden they just stop texting, I would be like, hmm, that's a question mark. That's weird.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

And the thing about that is it's it's a subconscious thing. It becomes a subconscious thing where you don't think it in that moment it does it really affects you, but over time, where more and more of that insta just keeps happening, it's like you you be you you are affected by that. And I can say confidently that I have been affected by just being ghosted by people or something like that. Yeah. I'm better about it now, but it's just like still like some things linger, and I'm like, damn, that sucks. Some things didn't really go the way that you would want them to. It would have been better for the person to just be honest about where they were at with that. Yeah. And uh, but yeah, no. Hinge to me, hinge is boring as fuck. Is it boring? Yes. It's like it goes dry out.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

By the way, like sorry. But no, you're fine. You but with that guy, like I said, I just ghosted him, I just stopped texting him.

SPEAKER_04 48:35

Right, you're a bad cursor.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

Then all huh? You're a terrible person. Okay, bitch. And then all of a sudden, he just sent a dick pic on Instagrams. Oh. Like he was the one that I just I ghosted him, and all of a sudden he just sent a dick pic on Instagram. I was like, he sent a disappearing picture. So I was like, hmm, what's this?

SPEAKER_03 48:54

I want to see it.

SPEAKER_02 48:55

I want to see what this is. Right. And of course, my I saw my therapist about he was like, of course it was a dick pic. Of course he was a dick pic. Why would you not fucking know it was a fucking dick pic? And I'm like, okay. He was definitely on that type of time. I was like, girl, I didn't know shit. I thought it was a harmless fucking thought or something.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

Curiosity may have killed the cat, but like he could have sent a picture just to like be like, hey, exactly. It could have been something, yeah. Yeah, it could have been a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

But yeah, that was it. He just sent a dick pic. He just sent a random ass dick pic. And like with Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:27

With hinge for you.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

I don't think I've had any other connections built off of hinge. Like, there's been it's been a few like back and forth, but like I said, just the end with the ghost thing, people ghost me. And then it's just like nothing becomes fruitful from it. So, like I said, you know what? I want to talk about this too. Like, do you think the apps are a hindrance to meaning people? Because like I think I rely too much on the apps for my connections with other people.

SPEAKER_04 49:54

I can definitely say that it's had a large effect on how we interact with people and meeting people nowadays. Because I feel like people nowadays don't really I don't want to say I don't want to speak for everyone and speak on everyone's intelligence or whatnot, but it's certainly if a lot of people are used to using dating apps and you know that sort of thing, I feel like it affects our real life, our how we how we meet people. Like I feel like a lot of bad habits are w gar garnered or taken from t texting on those types of apps. And then if you don't really take care of like making sure, keep yourself accountable and making sure that stuff, it's gonna come back at you and you'll start interacting with people in ways you probably don't really want would want wouldn't want to. I feel um I can't say that's the same for me. I mean, I'm socially like inept in some ways, but not because of apps.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

But I think what do you think about that? I think the apps could be a good thing and a bad thing. I think it could be a hindrance to you meeting actual people going out and meeting going out in public and having those kind of conversations with people that you're interested in. Like you might have to keep you out of practice, I say. Right, right. It does. That's a good way to say it. Like keeps you out of the practice of doing it. So I think it is it could be an interesting hindrance, but it also, like I said, it could connect you with a whole bunch of people. That's the thing. Like, I feel like idealistically, these apps should be this great thing for us to connect with people, but it just it isn't. A lot of it's just sex. Yeah. Especially for our gay community.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

That's that's definitely for sure. Yeah. I can say that without dating apps and without sex apps or whatnot, my life would be different. Like I've met people who have changed my life. Like I have been for worse. Oh my god. But no, I've met people who have changed my life, and it's just like, dang, I wouldn't have this without them. I wouldn't have this without them. And it does suck to think about that because I'm no longer like with them anymore. But at the same time, it's like I very much appreciate even if these apps have also affected me in the in one way or another, like I appreciate the people I have met and the experiences I have had because of them. And it's because it's become easier to meet new people. It's like because of circumstances of what an app could be, right? You could meet someone that you wouldn't have met otherwise. Like the only reason I met my second boyfriend was because one, COVID, and two, because of Tinder. His lifestyle at that time was he would just be in the house on his computer.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

Right, that's what that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 52:34

On on and off of work, yeah. And it was just like I he would have never met me in any social or any type of like event or anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

So it's just like, yeah, that really helped out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think the apps like are for people that don't go out and don't socialize and shit. Like, and it's just like, well, you can't expect to meet people that go out and socialize if you didn't meet them out socializing, you know what I mean? Kinda, yeah. So I think it's the it's an interesting kind of um back and forth with that.

SPEAKER_04 53:04

Yeah, exactly. That's that's kind of the trade-off. It's like a sacrifice in a sense. Yeah. Because like again, you have to just be careful and very mindful of how you're using the apps and what you're doing to make sure that you don't like lose skills that you naturally would have otherwise. Yeah. Um now speaking of those things though, certainly on oh, how much how much time we got?

SPEAKER_03 53:24

Yeah, it's probably about time. Yeah, it's about that time. Oh, it's about time to quit. It's about that time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

We didn't get to TM, we didn't even get to um jacked.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

Oh, yeah, we didn't get to jacked either.

SPEAKER_04 53:34

Jacked Jacked. We talked quickly about jack. Jacked. I've never had an experience on there. I mean, I've had like maybe one, but like I've never had anything like serious on there. No, like, isn't it just for bears or some shit?

SPEAKER_02 53:46

No, that's scruff, I think. No, that's the same difference. No, it's completely different. I feel like jacked is more for black people. What? I think more black people use jacked. Oh, it was like buff people. No, it's not, no, it's not like that. No. What is jacked for? It's I wouldn't, I don't know if what it's advertised specifically for, but a lot of black people use jacked. Like, I feel like when I go on jacked, all I see is just black people. I don't see a whole lot of other races. I just see a lot of black people. Okay, interesting. And so I think as far as connections go, for me personally, I've had better experiences on Jack than I have on Grind.

SPEAKER_04 54:25

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

I think I have.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

Jack Jack has contributed nothing to my life, while Grinder has definitely done some things.

SPEAKER_03 54:32

Yeah, I guess that's the beauty of the apps. Yeah, that's really it. Truly it. And that's a quack. We're not saying that. Yes, we are. Please do not.

SPEAKER_02 54:43

Yes, we are. That's a quack. That is a quack. Did I say that last time?

SPEAKER_03 54:47

Yes, no.

SPEAKER_02 54:48

You I think you said that last time. Or you said stay quack.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

I do say stay quack.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Maybe I said that's a quack.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

Uh well, we guess I guess that's a quack, y'all. Well, thank you guys for listening. Uh, we really appreciate all your support, as always. And of course, to all our members of the LGBTQ community, don't forget to enjoy Pride Month and uh have, I don't know, sex and not sex with people. Have good relationships with people. Right. People you've met off of apps or on apps, you've just experienced that and be happy with being able to do that because people fought for our people fought for our freedom to do that. So please. Fiss up because I'm proud. Okay. Right. Right. So please enjoy connections with people. Maybe meet somebody new today. Just fuck it. Get on that app right now.

unknown 55:36

Fuck it.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

Get back up right now. Right now.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Fuck it.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

Fuck it. I'm about to do that right now after this. Right.

unknown 55:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

But yeah, like I said, continue to like I said, hit us up on our social medias. It's gonna be in the show notes. I'm trademarket T-R-E-Y-D-M-A-R-K-I-T. That is Johnny Jabbers over there. Um, one of my best friends.

SPEAKER_04 55:56

J-O-N-N-Y-J-A-B-B-E-R-S.

SPEAKER_02 55:59

Yes, period queen. Spelling Queen. Um, but yeah, like I said, hit us up on social media, give us tips on uh our Kofi, our coffee can be linked in the show notes. Like I said, we're gonna keep on talking about that. But yeah, guys, like I said, thank you for coming back. Thank you for coming back and listening. We love it, we appreciate you, and we just just keep coming back listening to us. All right. Yeah, that's quack. Stay quack, stay quack. All right, bye. You're listening to QXC Radio. Yeah.