Quack AF: Unapologetically Queer and Black
Trey and JJ are two creative friends who specialize in yapping. On Quack AF, they share their experiences and opinions on society as Queer and Black (Quack) men. With special guests, other Quack individuals, friends and more, it’s always a good time filled with laughter, education, and inspiration.
Quack AF: Unapologetically Queer and Black
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These gays are on the spectrum! On this episode, JJ and Trey discuss the different positions in the Queer community, from top to bottom. JJ finds putting your position in your dating bio super tacky while Trey wants to hear the gargling of man juice.
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SPEAKER_01Happy Pride! Happy Pride Happy Pride Month, y'all. Happy Pride Month, y'all. Welcome to episode. Ooh, not episode three. It's just another week. Another episode. Yes, another episode. Yeah. Week three of our pride special. Is it week three?
SPEAKER_00Yes, week.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it is week three because it's third week. Yeah. Third week. Our pride special. We talk about awesome pride things on Quack AF.
SPEAKER_03On Quack AF.
SPEAKER_01And I'm JJ. I'm Trey. And we're Quack AF.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Oh my God. Like I said, back at it again. Yep. We still here. Back like we never left. Literally. We're starting to get our bearings and get a little bit more comfortable with the video situation and the audio situation. Like, it's just we're starting to get like, yeah, we're starting to get in the flow.
SPEAKER_01My favorite part is walking in the studio and then letting Trey do everything and then sitting down and making jokes. Right. And then talking shit. I'm getting my bearings, Ben. I'm getting my bearings.
SPEAKER_03Right. I'm trying to set the shit up. The technological advances. And you be just cracking jokes.
SPEAKER_01Being gay is a privilege, y'all. Don't forget. All right.
SPEAKER_03Being gay is a privilege. It's not a choice.
SPEAKER_01So how was your day today, Trey? While we're here.
SPEAKER_03Um, my day was okay. We had testing, as you can see, from as the viewers can see if you're watching. I forgot. It says test day. Um, you got this, bruh. No cap. No cap.
SPEAKER_01Where'd you get that damn shirt from?
SPEAKER_03I got it from Amazon. And I'm not the only one. You bought it on purpose! Yes. Oh, God. I got it from Amazon. It was a gift. No, I'm not the only one either. Like, we all of our teacher friends, like all the teachers, we all got little test day shirts to wear on test days. Wow. To inspire the next generation. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01If I saw my teacher wearing test day, you got this, bruh. No cap. I think I might fail.
SPEAKER_03No, you wouldn't. You'd be like this. You'd be like this nigga. This nigga actually cares.
SPEAKER_01I need to get out of this school as fast as possible. Oh my god, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Let me write this down. Speaking of nigga. Speaking of a nigga. Yeah. Oh. This little boy, I'm gonna call I he's a little boy. He's 12, 13, so he's See, I thought you were talking about me still.
SPEAKER_01Until you said the age, I thought you were talking about me the entire time.
SPEAKER_03He like I don't really know him like that. He's not on our team. He's on a different team. He, at the end of the day, like at the end of the day. Yeah, at school. Like, we end with like our like our last class. We ended the day with our last class, right? And we like buses roll out and all that jazz or whatever. This man, this little boy is not on our team, but he's just walking throughout the hallway and walking to other people's classrooms, walking in. I'm like, what the fuck? Okay. So then he walks into my classroom and just sits down. I'm niggas. I'm like, in my head, I'm a nigga. I don't fucking know you. What the fuck are you doing? Who are you? Okay. I know he's on the other team, but I don't know who he is. I'm like, who are you? Like, what are you doing? So I said, um, you have to get out, sir. I like I don't know you. You're just in this classroom. He's like, what are you talking about? I gotta get out. What do you mean? I'm like, dude, I don't know you, so what are you doing? Like, I'm just trying to get I'm just trying to have some fun. I'm like, whatever. Get out. Get out of my classroom.
SPEAKER_01At this point in the year, I don't have time for randos. Yeah, no. He was coming up in the classroom. He was seeing it was an exam week and was like, I could do anything I wanted.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_01He thought I could walk, he's just walked into the classroom.
SPEAKER_03We wouldn't catch him. We wouldn't say anything. Yeah. He's a he just strolls in like doo-do-do-do. Like, whatever. Either let me let your finger fuck. So he is walking in and he what else is he? I tell him to leave. He eventually gets out. Like I said, completely disrespectful. Disrespect, disrespectful ass motherfucker.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so he wasn't just being funny. He was actually disrespectful.
SPEAKER_03Yes, he was just being bitch. You don't just walk in somebody's classroom without letting them know or just without addressing the teacher.
SPEAKER_01See, when he did that immediately, I was thinking it was like some type of prank or some type of thing where kids bet him to say he just did it.
SPEAKER_03Either way, it's disrespectful. Yeah, yeah. If it was a prank or not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like it that's it's kind of like to get on the show.
SPEAKER_03Either way, he was being annoying. And so at the end of the day, he was like, he went, at the end of the day, he left, but then came back to my door and he went like dab me up. And I was like, you know what? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I was like, I don't at first I was like, bitch, I don't fucking know you. I don't know your name. He was like, he said his name, and I'm like, he said he knew me because I'm a teacher, of course. So he knew me, and I'm like, bitch, I don't fucking know you like that to dab you up. But I ended up he had his hand out to dab me up. I went in and dab him up. Guess this motherfucker does. This is a motherfucker does.
SPEAKER_01He moved his hand out the way.
SPEAKER_03Yes! He moved his hand out the way. So at that point, I'm not gonna say what I was gonna say. At that point, I'm done. You're done with you. We only got like three or ish days more of school left, three-ish days left of school left. Um all the benefit of the doubt goes out the fucking window. Like you, I understand he's a kid, I understand whatever they're learning, whatever, but like all the things I could have said, all things I could have done, but I had to be the adult in a situation. Like, no. That was not cool.
SPEAKER_01I have never realized how important people be like looking at that shit. Like, I remember one time I I like dissed out a high five on a waiter, and my friends would not stop talking about that shit.
SPEAKER_03Because that's rude as fuck.
SPEAKER_01Like, I never thought it was like that serious. I was like, you know.
SPEAKER_03But they take care of your food and you're doing fuck shit. They can spit in your food, they can do whatever they want to in your food. So I think just in general, I know we're not talking about it. Yeah. But like in general, people that are like rude to like service you, I know you weren't being rude, I know you're just being a corporate joke.
SPEAKER_01I was being a little quirky.
SPEAKER_03Right, that's what we're gonna call it. Um yeah, I understand, like, but people that are just like just rude to um like people who are like people who are in service that like do perform service, those people, it's y'all are crazy. I would never date you. I can never date you because people that do that, like you're just I'm in service. I work in service. Like, every time I'm a teacher, yeah. All my jobs, like my first job was Taco Bell. Like, I am anybody that's like working with that, I'm super nice to them because they're taking care of not taking care of me, but like they're taking care of a service for me.
SPEAKER_01They're doing something for you. Right. Yeah, it's that type of generosity. Right. Um, well, yeah, no, I think that's it.
SPEAKER_03So anyway, like you said, going back to that's why I said speaking of nigga. So as he did it, as he moved his hand away, he's gonna say, Oh, Leana. I was like, in my head, I was like, you know what? I'm not even gonna say nothing because I'm like, I don't know what I could say that would not make me either look crazy or lose my job.
SPEAKER_01I can tell this was like fresh on your mind.
SPEAKER_03It was because it just fucking happened at the end of the day. Like, like it pissed me off because I'm like, bitch, first of all, I don't fucking know you. You walked into my motherfucking classroom like you own the shit. Like, and then I try to give you the benefit of the doubt and dab you up. Let's throw a fresh start or whatever, and your bitch ass going, and I use that very loosely, but your bitch ass fucking move your hand out when I try to dab you up. Fuck that. Yeah, no, no. You gotta admit though, he got you. Like he did Shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01I'm not on his side.
SPEAKER_03Right. But like he was like, You're not on his side, but he got me.
SPEAKER_01He got you. You gotta see, you gotta admit.
SPEAKER_03So you're on his side. You got me a little bit. That's okay, you're on his side. It's okay. It's okay.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of you being a teacher, though, um, and queer actually. Didn't you do something yesterday? Or was it or is it coming up? I forgot. There's a little a little event that was happening.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the mixer. That's on Friday. That's on Friday, okay. That's on to not today. It's for y'all, it'd be a little while ago. Yeah, June the 5th. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna actually go out just talk about it, yeah. I'll be excited for that. You said it was what explain what it is just for a quick. So it's it's a queer mixer. I don't know what exactly what it's gonna be, but it's a queer mixer for professionals. Okay. So like people with professional, like, and I I know we just this is a side note. I know we just said June the 5th.
SPEAKER_01No, you're gonna hear this. Y'all gonna listen to y'all gonna be time traveling.
SPEAKER_03So time loop, time loop, time loop. But yeah, so it's happening this Friday, and it is a queer mixer for professional people that um for professional queer people. Yeah. I've been to one before that was not even connected, but it was like a mixer, but it was for black professional people.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay, gosh.
SPEAKER_03But it was not connected, they weren't connected, they're not connected at all. But I liked it because I went there, I was able to talk, be with my people, and just communicate. It was a little bit older than what I would have liked. Like I was the youngest one there, like I'm 26 now. Like, I feel like the close person to me was probably like 30 something, which isn't too bad, but like it went, it went up from there. Yeah, still I'm thinking. So I'm hoping that this queer mixer for professionals might be a little bit different and it'd be a little bit more diverse in age, I guess, maybe more closer to my age. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, that would be great. How I I really want to know like how many uh older, how many, how much really, how many older people are like out? Like are they like living their life and actually like still being gay?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so when I went to the black mixer, there were gay people there.
SPEAKER_01Oh, real?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, they were like older too. They were like, one was a professor in college, one did something else, I forgot what it was. But they were older. So and they were black, so I was like, it's fissed up because I'm proud. Okay. Yeah, real. Okay, that's good. That's good.
SPEAKER_01Well, hopefully, this mixer that you uh go to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, hopefully I might find some more friends and stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, please do. Some good connections would be great. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Oh, because we we we hang out too much? Got it. It's okay. Oh my god, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. You said it. You're like, please do. Oh my god, please, please, please, please find some friends.
SPEAKER_01Damn, okay.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. Only reason I would want you to get more friends is because they could probably be a guest on a podcast. That's for sure. Oh, we definitely need you to need you to talk about the alter your motive, guys. Always. Oh. I always got into it. Don't ever date me, bitch. Oh wait, no, no, no. Okay, don't clip that. Don't clip that. I'm gonna definitely clip that. Definitely just gonna clip that. Don't post it anywhere else other than where we post this podcast. Okay. But yeah, how are you doing? I don't know if I asked you that yesterday, but I actually think you missed it. I could have had the chance of saying, Oh wow, since you didn't ask me.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow, but you didn't. So too bad to say.
SPEAKER_01One day it'll come around. Okay. Um today was actually pretty good day. I went to go spend some time with family because I've been so free lately, and I uh it was a really good time. Um definitely my mom, my sister. Uh my sister is actually gonna get married. Oh, period, Queen. Yeah, she's gonna be married on the 15th of this month.
SPEAKER_03Of June? Yeah. Bride, my happy pride. Yeah, exactly. No, okay. That's so crazy because my sister's getting married in September.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. I'm guessing there's gonna be like she has like a whole reception and stuff like going on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I'm going to the wedding in September. Okay. So I'll be gone before that um that that weekend.
SPEAKER_01No, you won't. We're gonna actually bring all the quack stuff to you, and we will be recording that day. That's right. Girl.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, anyways. Yeah, my sister's getting married this month. Um, my uh nephew's also graduating this month. Oh yeah. He'll be graduating high school. He's God, they grow up way too fast.
SPEAKER_03They do. Golly, man. It's my like I said, my nephew is going to be I'm 26, so he's 16. And he'll be graduating not this upcoming year, but the one after that, yeah. Okay. 2028. That's amazing. Yeah, he's he's he's going up. Yeah, they they go up so much.
SPEAKER_01They go up the vibe! We're getting old. We're getting old. Uh 10 years from now, but we're still doing this podcast, and we're saying this right now. We're like, ollie. Ah no. In my 30s.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. All right. But um anything else? Any other preamble before we really get into the topic for the day. Well, this is what'd you do today? Oh, that's true. Yeah. Other than seeing my family. Uh, I spent time with my friend. Oh my gosh, shout out to her. She's great. We went to go eat at a um French restaurant downtown. Okay, we it was wonderful. Avocado on avocado toast with eggs. Dear Lord, it was so good. I we went there last time we hung out, but uh, it was better the second time. Yeah. God, I forgot how good it was. If I had money, I'd be there every day. Okay, beer class. Um, that was pretty good. Uh, and of course, I have plans later to go to my favorite place, game night. Oh yeah. Game night. Game night. Indeed. A shout out to everyone from game night. Thank you for being a great person. Uh, we are actually, unfortunately, by the time this airs, this will probably be passed. But um, we are having a special event at game night uh called I can't put the title. So low key, I can't even say for real, but I'm making the poster right now. It's called Games and Dames or Dames and Games. Oh. And it's gonna be like a drag queens from the community are gonna be coming to game night. Oh shit, bitch. Yeah, and we'll be playing like Family Feud or something like that. It'll be really cool.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It'll be great. That's fine. Yeah, it'll be really exciting.
SPEAKER_01That's really exciting. I can't wait. Oh boy, it's gonna be really interesting. Um anything else? Uh but yeah, no. Big shout out to everyone at Fair Gaming. Thank you so much for existing and all that jazz. Um and listening to the podcast, actually. You guys have been a really big help. That's that's really big. Thank you so much. That's good. Yeah, but that's that's all my plans for today, and I'm super excited. Today has been a really busy day for me, and I cannot wait to sit down somewhere, but I can't because my whole week is busy. Oh, damn. I got movie to see tomorrow. I got I got dick to suck, like what the fuck? I know that's fucking right.
SPEAKER_03I know that's right.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, no, no. That's that's about the the gist of my week. It's gonna be really interesting. Okay. So today, speaking of dick sucking.
SPEAKER_03Dick sucking. Yep. It's a sex episode. If you didn't know, if you weren't aware, it's a sex episode.
SPEAKER_01Ah, it's sex, but specifically about positions from top to bottom. So it's in the businesses from you.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna be talking about tops and bottoms and all the in-betweens. All the in between is a spectrum. Like I said, I think we need to be more, I think as a people, yeah, not as queer people, not as black people, but as a people, I think we need to be more aware that things and we exist on spectrums. Yes. We don't exist in boxes.
SPEAKER_01It's crazy how much more prevalent it's becoming like a day-to-day basis.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I think maybe as we get older, you get more aware, you get more cognizant of the world and how it works. You realize we don't live in boxes. We live in specs. Like I said, when you try to put a a person in a box, bitch, the first thing you want to do is break out of it. Literally every time. Every fucking time.
SPEAKER_01We had a friend in our group chat, in our group chat, in our group who was kind of doing that in a sense. I was like, mm-hmm. That definitely had conflicts for sure. What do you mean? Oh my god. Not yours. Oh, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03I was like, oh, we only got like this in front, so we only got like doing them as a man.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, I have plenty of friends, so I I I I definitely be going through it when it comes to socials and stuff like that. But people put people in boxes a lot of times. It's very frustrating.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and we don't exist in boxes. We we we exist like as the rainbow. Like literally spectrum of the rainbow.
SPEAKER_01We need another word because we keep saying spectrum. Gonna be like the drinking game. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's what we should do. A drinking game every time. Every time we have an episode, we should put in the show notes like the drinking game. That'd be good.
SPEAKER_01Like our favorite show?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, like our favorite show.
SPEAKER_01I just screwed up the mic. I'm so sorry to everyone with ears. Oh my god. Um, just real quick, real quick. The episode two, two episodes from now is gonna be really special. And something special happened today related to that. But we will get into that that on that episode. On the next episode. Yeah, on the two episodes from now. I think two episodes from now. Because we have an episode two.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the second, so the yeah, okay. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, um, like I said, we got some things coming down the motherfucking pipeline. Things coming down the motherfucking pipeline, okay?
SPEAKER_01But yeah, I know something really exciting happened today uh related to gay stuff and quack AF.
SPEAKER_03So I'm uh So fingers crossed that happens what, June the night? Well, June the 9th.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, June 9th is when they said their next episode's gonna be out. Yeah. Um to be honest, I well, yeah, if we can uh I would like to be able to afford it properly, but if you want to do it this this week, it's upcoming weekend week we can.
SPEAKER_03Or we can save up for it.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna say we can save up for it.
SPEAKER_03That's fine. Like we can we'll talk about camera. Save off. Off off pod. Off pod. Right, we'll talk about off pod. Um but yeah, like I said, just just look. Here's your hint. Pop. That's it. That's it. That's all we're gonna say. Wow. That's all we're gonna say. Riveting hit right there. That's all we're gonna say. So when you see us, you'll see us. If you see us, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01No, no, if. Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_03When you see us, you'll see us. Well, they gotta watch the show in order to actually see us. And we'll talk about it. We are gonna talk about it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That'll be special.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, yeah. They'll see. They'll see. They'll they'll know. They'll know what we're talking about.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01That'll be amazing. I'll make sure that we definitely Oh God, we have so much to talk about the episode. Because something happened to you recently, uh beforehand about that as well. Just to end it off. Remember? Like a month ago when you went to Atlanta? Oh. That was another hit, really bad.
SPEAKER_03So are we gonna are we gonna talk about it or are we not gonna talk about it?
SPEAKER_01We're gonna save it for the episode for the pop episode. Okay, we're gonna save it.
SPEAKER_03Okay, for the pop episode. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Right now we gotta have a topic to get into. Remind me of that.
SPEAKER_03Because I'm gonna forget. Yes, I I will make sure.
SPEAKER_01It's not here at all.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you'll like you said, at the end of this month, you'll know, you understand, we'll know we're talking about talking about it. You weren't eating it. Mama say, Mama Sam, Mama Kusan. All right, focus, focus. Yeah. So spectrums. Like us. We live on we exist. Do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree? We're getting Where are we at?
SPEAKER_01Where are we at? What's going on?
SPEAKER_03Get H. We exist on a spectrum, right? Yes. So if okay, on the spectrum, what do you think you would be? Where would you fall on that spectrum? Put yourself in a box. This is what we're saying.
SPEAKER_01Put yourself in in our box.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Um, and this is rel retaining pertaining to our like positions. Yeah, position.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, for sure. So um when it comes to me, um, I definitely am a bottom. Okay. For sure.
SPEAKER_03Um just a bottom.
SPEAKER_01No. Okay. Because I know for a fact two things. One, it definitely depends on the person. I very much feel more comfortable in a bottom position. But all in all, when it comes to the person, I I like to just kind of play around with that. Um but for sure, if I could definitively say, even though people be clowning on it a little bit, like a side, okay, dead ass, like I'm into foreplay and all that jazz. Like that's like my thing for real. Actual sex is just like an aftermath situation to me. Yeah. So it's like all the side stuff, fraudding, cuddling, yeah. That's like my vibe.
SPEAKER_03I feel like you can get a lot more intimate with that stuff. And it's more of a lead up. Like, it's sometimes sometimes I'd be like sex overrated. Like penetration be overrated sometimes.
SPEAKER_01That is that is crazy.
SPEAKER_03It'd be low-key overrated sometime. Maybe because I'm not doing it right. But I think low-key overrated. But like you said, that intimacy and the intimacy play, like that, like I I live for that.
SPEAKER_01Like intimacy specifically, it's just amazing.
SPEAKER_03So for me, I think I would say I am a verse top. Oh, you say you're spitting on it. Right. I would say a verse top because I'm more comfortable with topping, but every now and again I'll bottom. And like you said, it kind of depends on the person. Like it depends on the energy. I wouldn't say it depends on the person. That that's a lot. It depends on what I feel like.
SPEAKER_01I know that means like I understand our dynamic sexually, and then it's like, okay, who what do we feel? More comfortable with it. Do you feel more comfortable with me being dominant or you that sort of way? But now I'm thinking also dominant and submissive is also a thing where it's like it could be positioned.
SPEAKER_03And it doesn't necessarily mean not all tops are dominant. Yeah. And not all bottoms are submissive. Right. So it's not all apples are oranges. Right. Don't shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_00You agree?
SPEAKER_03Shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03Whatever. But like, yeah, like it's not it's it's not in a box. You can't put a top in a box. You can't put a bottom in a box. Yeah. We exist, like you said, on the spectrum.
SPEAKER_01Just have sex.
SPEAKER_03Right. But yeah, I think for me, it doesn't depend on the person. It depends on what I'm attracted to in that moment. Like, what do I want to do?
SPEAKER_01What you want to do.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna be honest. If I if I didn't have to clean out, I'd be verse like in the middle. All the way. All the way. Okay. But the process of cleaning out, like I said, I've I've started now to make it into like a self-care ritual. Now if I want a bottom, like I gotta, alright, I gotta my music plan. Getting down there. I gotta get down there literally and fucking get on the floor, get a little bulb or whatever, do what I do. And I made it into like a self-care thing. Because I'm literally I'm putting in like an hour, hour and a half almost time into it to do this. So like this is gonna be fun for me. I'm gonna enjoy this.
SPEAKER_00Okay, that's amazing.
SPEAKER_03So I'm gonna enjoy the process of doing it, and I'm gonna enjoy me bottoming. Like, because I I don't bottom for everybody. Like you, you it's gotta be it's very true. It's gotta be some a whole lot of windows, not window, some gates that you're gonna have to get through before you get to bottom me. Because I, first of all, I don't really bottom that often. I do like it, but I don't bottom that often. And like you you gotta fit a certain aesthetic for me, from in my opinion, for my for my taste. And it can't you can't be too aggressive, too pushy, because if you're too pushy, like bitch, get the fuck off me. Because I'm still a verse topic in the day. So I don't want to be throwing around right, like fuck that. Well, I don't know, I never tried it before. I've never tried it before. But I I think as a top, like I don't want to feel well, no, I'm sorry, as a bottom, I don't want to feel like I'm getting taken control of. Like I want to be able to release and relax, but at the same time, I don't want to feel like I don't have any control. And I maybe I'm a control freak, just in general, but I I want to feel like comfortable with you and not feel like in a feel like in a box, but I don't feel like constricted, I guess. Yeah. No, I definitely But at the same time, like I don't want to be able to run either.
SPEAKER_01Ooh. So you like that pullback?
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03Like I, if I'm in a position where I don't have to run, like, and I'm just I'm just taking it. Like, just taking it.
SPEAKER_00Like I love people that vocal fry.
SPEAKER_03Right. So yeah, it's it's yeah, like I said, it's interesting. I I I don't I don't want to feel constricted, but at the same time, like I don't want to be able to feel like I I can run.
SPEAKER_01Um that sort of thing with the bottom. Yeah. Very interesting. So that's us with our positions and how we feel about it. And of course, there are stigmas and ideals that have been associated with positions which are problematic, especially, you know, when it comes to how people treat bottoms and how people treat tops, or you know. Like, what do you mean? When it comes to people who bottom, they people start. I want to literally get into like how people treat bottoms like women in the bad way and that sort of thing, but I have no idea how to say that properly. But it's like essentially that way of just like demeaning and whatnot. And people are into that, but it's like when you say that you're a bottom, or when you are looked at and you people are trying to pity you or look down on you, they call you a bottom out sort of thing. And it's like it has that same connotation as well when people are like calling people gay, like you're you're less than or whatever. Sithy. Yeah, yeah. You just came out of like one of those uh uh not homophobic ads, but they're trying to be like rude to the person, they can't say too many bad words, but be like, you're back. Yeah. Damn it, I can't think of what I want to say there. But you get what I mean. Um but yeah, no, usually when people are called bottom or gay, it's like derogatory. It's like that's that's that's that's interesting. That's an interesting way to perceive that because bottoms are also perceived as like the women of the relationship, essentially.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's another thing too. Like, okay, who's gonna be the girl? Who's gonna be the boy? Like that those conversations come up when they're whenever like you sometimes come out to your parents or whatever, when you start dating somebody, like that that can come up. And that's the beauty of being gay and queer. Like, you don't have to fit in these boxes, like you don't have to be this one way all the time. Like, quite literally, like two tops can be together.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, two, yes, and two bottoms can be together. Like, it's and we don't believe in that.
SPEAKER_03As a people, as a queer people, yeah.
SPEAKER_01As a queer people, we don't believe in that. Like, it's like, oh, you two bottoms. Like, I'd have not, I I guess I just haven't, I can't say that I've seen enough people really like actually be like, okay, you're a bottom, I'm a bottomless do this, that sort of thing. I've tested that out a couple times, and usually it's speaking, it's just like they want to be the more submissive one. I'm like, ah well.
SPEAKER_03You know, that's I mean, that comes with the territory sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Bottoming, being penetrated sometimes can be more of a submissive role than the penetrative one. The penetrated one is a more submissive role than the penetrative one. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which I guess that makes sense considering gender no gender roles or whatever in that sense. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But again, we don't always have to fit in that box. Like, queer exists out of that spectrum. Right. Sorry, out of that binary sense of being straight, either you're the boy or the girl, like either the one getting fucked. Like, I feel like even full bottoms can be like, uh, I think I want to top sometimes. Or even full tops. Like I said, the Sigma, especially with top, excuse me. Shit, especially with tops, I feel like people, queer gay people, well, bottoms, are like, if my top bottoms, I don't want them at all. I don't want them at all. Like, bitch, you should not be bottoming at all as a top. Like, some people believe that. Like, some bottoms don't want that at all.
SPEAKER_01It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's insane how how interesting that is because it's like, oh, my nigga can't do that. Sorry. Right. Type shit. I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_03And then she's another foot too. Like, tops don't want their bottom topping. Like, don't they don't want to be topped.
SPEAKER_01You need to always be submissive to me and only me. Which can be hot to its own degree, as I could say. But like again, people don't exist in boxing. Yeah, when you're putting it in a literal sense, it's like, okay, it's not as hot more than it is like problematic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I think as some as two people that are like the same position, like you're saying, like you can have those more intimate side quest moments.
SPEAKER_01You go on a side quest?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I did just go out of side quest. Wow, you come up with that just now? On the spot. Ooh, okay. There's those side quest moments where you are more intimately kissing and rubbing and frauding and um, like I said, like bottoms, bumming purses. Get a double dildo, fucking bump purses. Shit. Fucking scissor. Oh, like as yeah, like there's there's other things you do. Like, as queer people, sex does not have to be limited to just fucking. Right. There's so much more that could be happening going on with being queer and having sex.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like specifically, maybe if we had another perspective, because I feel like I've just only seen the one, and there has to be more going on in our community.
SPEAKER_03Like what?
SPEAKER_01Like, I just feel like there's more people who do properly like apply this ideal of spectrum to their way, like sexual life essentially, and like actually do things and pursue those ways instead of just keeping it in the same box of just like let's do sex in this one way. I just feel like I haven't seen enough of it. Like I've seen more of our community just be that that one thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, there are some instances where people want to flip, like flip-fuck, like fuck at the same time. I'm sorry? You never heard that before? Flip fuck? I've never heard that actually. Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what is it? What's a slip-up thing?
SPEAKER_03It's usually when two verse, right, when two verse people get together and one does the top thing and the other one does the bottoming and then they flip. They switch. Like literally just sex. Okay. Yeah, and they flip. They flip. I've never done that before. Like that takes some prep. That takes a prep plan. I'm like, first of all, I gotta prepare the I gotta find a guy that's willing to do that. That first of all, that I'm gonna try to, yeah, that's willing to flip fuck.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then I gotta bottom. I gotta prepare the bottom.
SPEAKER_01I gotta prepare the bottom. So see, that's the thing. Yeah. When I think about that, that's like a relationship-specific thing. Like, if I'm in a relationship with you, we are gonna be doing that because we're so in tune with each other and our how comfortable we are with each other's positions and whatnot. So it's like, yeah. So we wouldn't stay, if you're in a relationship, you wouldn't I don't think you would usually stay in just one comfortable space and just be like, I would all I will always bottom. Like, I mean, people can do that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I I would think that if you're in a relationship, you would want to try different things, and that would be just one of the things normally that just would happen. I feel like that's for young hoes. Young hoes?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I feel like that's for young hoes. 16 year olds, what are you talking about? No, I'm talking about like 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds. Like, that's some young freaky shit. Okay, okay, okay. But I feel like after a little while, you'd be like, all right, all right, man. This is what I've settled into. This is what I'm gonna do.
SPEAKER_01At this point, this is what it is.
SPEAKER_03This is what it is. So we ain't we ain't flipping every fucking time. That's that's crazy. That's a freaky shit. Every time you're flipping every time, that's a freaky shit.
SPEAKER_01That would be crazy. I think it's just like, you know, I I'm just thinking in a relationship, you would just always be like, today I want to be more time, I want to be more dominant, or today I want to be more submissive, that sort of thing, and just communicate that thing. And it's just like that sort of thing. Like I'd do that if I was like in a in a relationship dating in a relationship. If I was dating someone, blah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I guess I haven't been in like a serious relationship where we had the opportunity to be like, oh, well, who's gonna do the bending?
SPEAKER_01Holy crap. Have you dang, I haven't even thought about when you the last time you were in a relationship. How long has this been?
SPEAKER_03It was the one in college. I forgot the name that we gave him. Um don't remember the name. I don't remember his name, but I'm not sure. I know. Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01I don't give a damn about the name or the name.
SPEAKER_03I don't know if I came up with a name. I we probably did. I'm just calling him Orange because I don't even know why. But the one I dated in college, we were all friends. You know exactly what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think that was the last one that I dated, and it wasn't even like a serious relationship yet, because we only dated for like a couple of months. We only dated for like maybe like a month or two.
unknownReally?
SPEAKER_03We were friends for longer, but we didn't start dating until like we didn't start dating until like my senior year, and then I left. But we broke up like I forgot why we broke up. It was some dumbass.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, like that was like talking the town for five seconds, that's for sure. Just not even why you guys broke up more than just like that together?
SPEAKER_03That we broke up?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01For real? I would hear about it. I'm like really for a little bit. Oh not look, don't think talking to the town like talking about campus.
SPEAKER_03You said, well, okay, when you say talk in the town, nigga, I think everybody on the campus. I'm sorry. Maybe not everybody can't be everybody in our little friendship. Everybody in our circle is like talking about me. That was back to the case. Let's give them something to talk about. Really?
SPEAKER_01Y'all really did. Oh no. Well, you guys were like committed. It looked it looked cute at the time.
SPEAKER_03It was cute at the time, and it was shit. He, I'm not gonna say he had good head. Love that. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER_01Love, love that. I can say. Um, but not for him. Sorry, not the craziest. What'd you say? I I said I can say, uh-huh, but I was talking about from my own experience, essentially being like, hey, this is another person I used to um date quotations. Uh-huh. They had a really good head. Oh, a complete different person. Yeah, it's a complete different person. Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_03God.
SPEAKER_01Right. We called him a man now. We broke them. Right, right, right, right. Okay. But yeah, no. Um tops and bottoms, tops and bottoms, sides and sides. Are there any more? There's side verse, top, bottom.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think people, okay. Most people know about them, but like, let's break it down. Oh, yeah. So top, should do that first. Penetrative person. The one is the one that's I put my dick in you. Right. Yeah, we should do that. How about we, you, how about you do quotes? I'm gonna say uh I'm gonna say You know how you describe what it is. I'm a quote. Paraphrase it. So that's a top. A verse top is somebody that mostly tops, but sometimes might bottom a little bit, but they top more than they bottom.
SPEAKER_01I'm a oh I want to put my dick in you, but sometimes you can put your dick in me.
SPEAKER_03Okay, keep moving. Okay. So that's verse, like, okay, verse as a definition, I feel like it's 50-50. Like sometimes you want top, sometimes you want a bottom.
SPEAKER_0150-50. Yeah. Sometimes I want some dick in me, but sometimes I need to do it. I do my own dick. Right. I need my dick in somebody else. Right.
SPEAKER_03So it's 50-50. Verse, verse is verse, it's sure for versatile. That's what I think. Yeah, versatile. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Vers bottom is somebody that bottoms more than they top, but sometimes they top. But most of the time they bottom. I like dick, but damn, do I want to put some dick in somebody else too? Right. So that's verse bottom. And then bottom is somebody that only. That was bottom shaming. Bottom shaming? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Moaning is never a bottom sham.
SPEAKER_03But moaning is a hunter.
SPEAKER_01If you hear me moan, dear God. Is that how you moan in bed? That's you wish that was how I moan. Hell fuck no. You have heard me. I'm gonna moan in the mic. Why not? If you have sex with me, you can learn how I moan. Okay, beer's name. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_03There you go. So that's bottom.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a bottom.
SPEAKER_03And then a side. A side is somebody that does not do any penetration at all.
SPEAKER_01I want to code you. I'm gonna oo. Right.
SPEAKER_03They don't do penetration. They just rub on the body, like frauding. Like I feel like as a side, you're open to you could have more relationships where you were a top and a top and a bottom and a bottom, or just you were a top and a bottom, but you're a verse top and a verse bottom, but your cycles, your cycles aren't lined up to where one person wants to be the top. Both people want to be tops, then you can do side stuff. This is very prevalent in a relationship.
SPEAKER_01Like that is something you would definitely communicate, like I'm feeling this today, I'm feeling that today, that sort of thing. In other in people like um out of relationships and are on apps or something like that, that's when it comes to the specifics of I just want this right now, that sort of thing, you just put it in bio, that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, let's talk about that. Because the the implications. What?
SPEAKER_01I said miasma. Like the word miasma. What the fuck is miasma? Okay, so I said that word, I knew what it meant, and then I lost it. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So anyways. So the implications that putting your position in dating apps, and we're talking about dating apps, not necessarily hookup apps, because hookups apps, bitch, if you don't have your if you don't have your shit in your shit. If you don't have your shit in your shit, what the fuck are you shitting for?
unknownWhat the fuck?
SPEAKER_03What are you just saying? If you don't have your shit and your shit.
SPEAKER_01I heard you perfectly clear.
SPEAKER_03What are you shitting for?
SPEAKER_01So real. So true. Put that on your shirt, please.
SPEAKER_03If you don't have it, right, exactly. March! March! Okay. If you don't have it in your bio, like what do you like what are you looking for? Why are you there? So people like know what to look for. And maybe you're both, maybe you're a side, maybe you're a verse, maybe it depends on the day, but put that in your bio.
SPEAKER_01Put everything.
SPEAKER_03Put verse and say it depends on the day or something like that. Whatever. But but for dating profiles, like what do you think about people that do that and dating profiles?
SPEAKER_01I oof back when I was on dating apps and whatnot, I I always got a bad vibe from it. I always got like this vibe of like, so if I am a bottom, we probably ain't gonna mix in the way you would want us to mix. Um so that sort of thing. If they were a top? If they were I never I have never actually seen a top. Well, no, I don't think on a dating app, I don't think I've ever seen a top actually list out that they're a top. I've seen bottoms only list out that they're bottoms. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03So you feel like amazed let me make sure I understand this right. Yeah. So you're saying like if someone has bot bottom in the bio, you might not I might not swipe on them.
SPEAKER_01Why? Because well, for me, I'm definitely like not exactly sex-oriented as our culture is kind of, I would say. So it's just like seeing any type of immediate interaction with that feels like that might be a thing that's important to you to some degree. And if it isn't as important to me, then I understand, okay, I don't want to give any wrong or bad impressions, I don't wanna I don't wanna give you anything you don't you I don't wanna not give you anything you might want, that sort of thing, and just like keep it moving. Just any type of importance to sex in any way would just like turn me off. And just like like any at all. Okay, well, uh we'll be it we'll be another example like of any of sex in a bio.
SPEAKER_03I I've seen it put it in emojis, like people with the like, yeah, I've seen emojis the up and down, like I'm just like really that it's just that thing, like it's just like you're making it a point in your dating bio.
SPEAKER_01There are so many other aspects of life, and that's one of the things that you are making apparent. Like, that's something I would probably like to know if I'm like asking you I want to have sex with you, what uh was your position, that sort of thing. Like that's how when we get that vibe down, you know. Like I that's that's why it's difficult because I also understand why it's important to state that sort of thing. But I think there's like a time and a place. And I feel like very much on hookup apps and and that sort of thing, grinding apps or whatever, that's where it's most appropriate. And in other, in other situations, it feels a lot less inappropriate. Like on a imagine you're on a like a show or some sort, and you are one of the questions, one of the main questions you decide to ask is is this person a top or a bottom? And that sort of thing. And that to me is like you're showing importance to this part of yourself rather than like just getting know me in this moment, like where we're at. And if I'm talking about you're talking about pop, right? How do you know?
SPEAKER_03I just want bot I want we would be clear, yeah. But you're talking about pop.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But yes, I am talking about pop because it's just like one of those things where it's like it's important to state two people, but I feel like there's a time and a place, and that's it's when it breaks that thing, and you you putting it in important places where it's like, all right, I don't wanna I don't think I don't think you have the priorities right here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think I don't know, I think that it it may depend. I think for me, I don't want to waste time because sex to me in a relationship is is important. It's significant is significant. It's significant, it's significant. It's not the full all end all be all. Yeah. But it's still important, I think.
SPEAKER_01I think a lot of people can see that same perspective actually. It's not like everything in a relationship, but it is important.
SPEAKER_03Right. And I don't think that I can date a full top. Like that's I think if we're just doing well, I don't know, it depends. I've done some side stuff with some tops before, and it's pretty hot.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03But I want there to be some penetration. Like, I don't think I can date a full top every time we have sex, like either we're just doing side stuff or you're topping. That I don't that's not my stick. That's not my shtick. I don't think that I am like inclined to be the one that's being the bottom every time we have sex.
SPEAKER_01Do you think that if you this might be more of like a thing you need to experience more than anything, but do you think that if you were to meet the right person that they could kind of get you more comfortable with being in that position of just bottoming?
SPEAKER_03I might, maybe, like I might. It depends on our conversations, depends on the time that we spend together, depends on just genuine love for the person. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You could learn something new about yourself through the person that you meet and just like, okay, maybe I might be a little more open to this. That sort of thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I just think me personally, like I said, if I didn't have to clean out, bitch, I'd be bottomed all the fucking time.
SPEAKER_01If I was a girl. Right. Oh my god. Don't even get me started on that.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to get started on that, but like I said, I said in college, man, I wish I had a vagina for like a like a day. I feel like this concept is about to get real, real, different. Real different. Real, not real, what's the word? Ronald. Cancelable. Okay. Cancelable. Cancelable. Cancelable. Whatever. But like I said, if I had a vagina for a day and I didn't have to fucking clean it out, bitch, I'll just I'd be fucking sucking. Any attack, I'd be going across the wall.
SPEAKER_01I got $24, bitch.
SPEAKER_03I got $24, bitch. Max it out the fucking credit card. Max out the credit card, bitch. I need to get flu. I'm getting fluid out.
SPEAKER_01You knew today was the day the vagina comes in.
SPEAKER_03And it gotta be in the summer. So I gotta see. Enjoy the fucking day. Like, yeah, and just do it, yeah. For real. But anyways.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Anyways.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, like if I did not have to clean them out, like I think I would be bottoming in a lot more. But it's just a process. It's just a process of like. And now a word from our nose. Can you imagine? Can you imagine we just like knocking in the oh yeah, we got this, we got this new uh bottom supplement that you can. But yeah, that's in our future, though.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, that's in our future. That would be really funny. Uh for April Fools, no one's gonna listen to this podcast, don't worry. Uh what? Don't say that. The fuck? We hear you. We see you, and we hear you, and we see you. I will kiss you. Oh, okay. But um, April Fools, we gotta do like the entire episode is just an advert the entire time. That'd be hilarious. It wouldn't be, it'd be it'd be a very extended bit, but hey, I'll be dedicated. Anyways. We're not doing that. I'm gonna figure something out for April Fools. We're not doing it. I'm gonna figure something out for April Fools. We will I we will be doing something. Okay. Just like I will be revealing what that word was for the Trevor Trey game.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a while back. That was a while, a while back.
SPEAKER_01If you remember, don't forget, we'll reveal it. Yeah, that was the episode with obsidian. We will reveal that word. It's like we hold it the entire season. Oh god. Season finale. Yep, yeah. Season finale. That's when you guys will learn what the word was, and that's when you'll hear the clip for Trey's voice that he will cringe at entirely. Okay, Lord have mercy. Yeah. Um our topic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, going back to like I said, I I think that I might learn something from being with a top, like a full top. Yeah, like I might, I might get more because I am attracted to top types. I am attracted to I am attracted to top types.
SPEAKER_01So actually, that's a really good segue. That's how you know I have an idea about that. That made me think it's not.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm more attracted to I'm not attracted to like a like I don't want to go into feminine and masculine because that's another that's another topic. Yeah, this topic. But I am attracted to top types. Now, what do I mean by that? I just I'm attracted to that top energy. Like I don't necessarily just mean masculine energy, but I mean it is, in my opinion, it can be more masculine type energy that I'm attracted to, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I was thinking about that, uh, and I think that might be better for our next episode. Yeah, I'm thinking about it. Um but I was thinking about that and I was like thinking, like, hey, you know, what does a top look like? What does a bottom look like? And if we were to put that out, I'm pretty sure most people could like instantly like have an idea of what that looks like. Bottom, fat ass.
SPEAKER_03Uh top, bay dick. That's not if you don't have a big dick, you can't be a top. That's not what I was saying. Plain and simple. If you got no ass, you can't be a bottom. That's not what I was saying. That's what people think. That's not what I was saying. That's not what people think. Okay. That's exactly what I'm saying. So to any else, to anything else. I remember I this side of this guy that I linked up with. He was actually from he's not from Columbia, he's from here.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03But he lives, I think he lives in Columbia. He might move back soon, but I don't know. We we didn't keep in touch.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'll have to see where the story goes to see if I want to see him. So I don't keep in touch with him, so I don't care. I want to see him. So oh well, I don't know if I want to see him yet, just continue the story. So continue the story.
SPEAKER_03Hey, you know, that's what I was gonna do if you didn't interrupt me. Yeah, yeah, but now I I want to know if he's gonna see him or anyway. So continue the story. So he was from he's he lives in Colombia and he flew, he flies back for the holidays or whatever. He said that he became a bottom because he had a fat ass. Did you not know that before? He became a bottom as he grew up. Oh, he's like, Oh, I'm a bottom because I got a fat ass. I got a bottom because I have a fat ass. Like that's what the that's the box that he was put in. That was the box that he was put in. Who put him there? Society. Society put it at the bottom. He literally put it at the bottom. Shut up. Because he has a fat ass, he has to be a bottom. But I think he said he would like to do more topping stuff.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03But he said, he said, he said that. He said, I was put into a bottom position because I have a fat ass. And I'm like, oh wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no. If you have a fat ass, you can be a top. Actually, that's a very attractive. And I have to do that.
SPEAKER_03That is a very attractive bitch. X. I you uh he knew exactly what the fuck he was doing. Call it an X. Bitch, then he'd call it triple X. The fuck?
SPEAKER_01It's just par. It is. That's the only time.
SPEAKER_03That's the only reason why now, like, not that's the only reason why I go on fucking next.
SPEAKER_01It's literally just, yeah. Right. Unfortunately, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, like seeing a video of a top topping with a fat ass, bitch. That thing jiggling. Right, that thing moving, that thing dang. Right. Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Oh God. Oh man, can we like I wish we could like rate which app has the better porn? Reddit, bam. Twitter, bam.
SPEAKER_03Fortune. Twitter. No comment.
SPEAKER_01Have you only have you only been on Twitter porn then?
SPEAKER_03I've looked at Reddit porn.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03But I feel like with Reddit porn, you gotta like look harder.
unknownLook harder?
SPEAKER_03In my opinion.
SPEAKER_01There's a whole ass like subreddits.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. There are subreddits, but like it doesn't, I don't know. I feel like maybe I just have a bias.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna be honest. As hot as Twitter porn, this is an actual topic we're talking about right now, yes. As hot as Twitter porn is, Reddit porn does get me off a lot more. Does it really? Yes, like I don't know what it is. I be on them subreddits and I'm like, golly. Oh, lovely stuff.
SPEAKER_03It just don't even be videos, it'd be gifts. I think like the thing. Are you seeing the same thing I'm seeing? Like just gifts? Yeah. No, you're right. You're completely compared to you.
SPEAKER_01Maybe that's me. Maybe I need sound. I think I've gotten so when I was a when I was younger and I was doing that, I did a lot of pictures. So maybe that's why it is the case for me. I never even thought about that actually. Holy crap. But yeah, like I when it's like a really hot picture, it's like that's enough for me. And then I get to see more of the same person. I just scroll to see more of the same person that's me.
SPEAKER_03No, I need sound. I need to hear you. You need to hear everything. I hear you fucking sound of like I need to hear the gargle of the comb. I need to hear all that. Gargle of the coming of all that shit.
SPEAKER_01Please don't quote that.
SPEAKER_03I need to hear all of that shit for it to actually get me aroused. I can't look, I could get something I can look at something and be like aroused for sure, but like get off on it. I need to hear the sounds.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. Real real. That's very interesting. I never even considered that as a thing. That makes sense. Yeah. People love Twitter. Yeah, that's why. Don't ever call it X, by the way. Do not ever do it again. We are a podcast.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I just called it, I just called it X for the joke of Triple X. I did see that, so that was a good X, yeah. I'll call it Triple X. I'm not gonna call it X.
SPEAKER_01Okay, you can call it Triple X. That's good. That works. Elon Musk should not have done that at all.
SPEAKER_03You know what's so crazy? I don't know if you know this either. Like, you know his cars, right? The fucking Tesla? The Teslas, right? You know like the model letters? No, what's up? Like the names of the cars, like model S, model whatever, right? Yeah, okay. Bitch, tell me why his models are model S, Model E, Model X, and Model Y. What's that spell? Come on. I I I saw it.
SPEAKER_01You don't have to do the whole bit. Okay. What is his what is his problem? What was he thinking? Was he just that horny and just forgetting? I guess so. I guess so. Elon Musk, what do you get off to? Right. Like cars, transformers, what are you, what are you going on?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Does Gundam get you waft, Elon Musk? What's up? Gundam? Yeah. Gundam is a uh reference to robot like build'em, like build'em. It's like Power Rangers. Think Power Rangers. Like, you know how they have that big megazord that they can turn into or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sort of thing. But it's like in media, there's like actual shows and anime about just that. Like cars and stuff. Okay. I'll take you to a place one day and you'll.
SPEAKER_03I'll take you. I need to stop doing that thing and shit.
SPEAKER_01You love it. That's you. Just like me in my loud ass voice. Yeah. In my sexy vernacular.
SPEAKER_03Um What show is this now? We are.
SPEAKER_01Um Okay. So we've covered pretty much everything about oof, not let me not say that. Of course, everything could always be talked about more. Right. But when it comes to uh top, bottom, verse, side. What other ver No, and the and the variations of verse within those, it's like So I I want to go back to like because you're a bottom.
SPEAKER_03Bottom verse, bottom bottom, whatever. You would at a bottom, like a full bottom.
SPEAKER_01I I literally did. Oh, okay. And I actually um again, being that verse thing, it's like I think for me, I definitely fall into a thing where like I get to understand the person and then I get to understand what they would kind of like and then like kind of protrude that in a relationship. And I'm still myself, but like I'm very much a different being when it comes to um sexy time with the person I'm interested in, like actually. So um I've definitely been with people who would prefer me to be a top or be a top them in that way and be a dominant top at that. And that's not usually my most comfortable position, but I've been in that and I've found my yeah, that's what you'd be saying. Is that what I sound like to you? Is that my voice for you? When you when you go in public and you talk about me and you use my voice, is that the one you pick?
SPEAKER_03I think when you get a little you get a little dominant right now. Hold on. Hold on, shit.
SPEAKER_00That's the one, bitch. That's the one.
SPEAKER_03But I can imagine that's what you sound like we can fucking give us from the back, okay? Oh, I doggy style.
SPEAKER_01I I I kind of love it how different I become because it's like if you were if you were to see me, it's like, oh, well, who is this guy doing this right now? Right. But I I also understand like that's what my partner wants. So it's like I kind of get into that. And so I kind of just do that. And I haven't really been in a position where it's like I've also been a submissive top. I've just kind of been like in that position of submissive bottom, that sort of thing. Or just like a side or something like that. So it's just like a lot of the instances, it's just like either it's very binary for me. And I I kind of do wish my sexual experiences were my more diverse. Um, but it kind of just runs runs in that way. I think the one time it really was diverse is when I had an asexual boyfriend and we kind of just like did things because we were interested in each other. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I want to go back to that. Sorry, but Ace. Don't I want to remind me about Ace because I want to talk about that. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So like Oh, you say later, not right now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like, so with I've been in a more, not I wouldn't say submissive role, but I have been in a more like a passive role as a top. To where I'm not like, I'm not like sometimes they at the bottom people be fucking me. Like they be cracking me.
SPEAKER_01Bottoms crack you.
SPEAKER_03Right. Okay. And like that's pretty hot to me. Like, it's it's hot. I think it's hot when a bottom time takes control and does his like his own thing. Okay. And like just be like, I'll just be poll.
SPEAKER_01Just pole. You're a pole pole.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that thing where they're using you. A little bit almost. Yeah. As a top. Yeah, like you're just as a bottom. I have not gotten to that point where I just want to be used as a sex toy. But I haven't gotten to that point. I might, I'm, I think I'm getting close. I think I'm getting close. The last time I got fucked, I was like, oh shit, it's kind of hot. Oh, he just, he just he just wants his nut. He just wants to get it. Right, right, right, right. He doesn't know anything else. Right. And so that's I think that's something I can get into. But like you said, that one guy that I had hooked up with, I'm gonna call him, what am I gonna call him? Mark. Mark Mark Mark. Mark. We have all these wacky names and then just there's just Mark. Right. We're gonna write through here. He was a he was like, I remember he was fucking me. He was riding it. He's like, you like that? And I was like, oh shit. Yeah, I do like that. I do like that.
SPEAKER_01So that that time when you heard that, it was actually like kind of hot.
SPEAKER_03It was that one time. Okay, I haven't heard of it. Well, we be just we be fucking around when we say that. Like, you like that? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I haven't heard, okay. I have heard people, people, people be like looking at porn and then implementing that into their sex life, and then it's like, you like that?
SPEAKER_03I'm like, like you said, I'm a I like hearing the verbal conversation in sex. I like hearing that.
SPEAKER_01That's good. I I'm such I'm not the opposite. I do like to hear when someone's being satisfied by my existence, but I hate moaning. Really? I when I am a bottom, I try my best to keep it to myself. Really? Yes. So if you do get to- Let that freak flag five. I don't, I it's definitely a thing with me psychologically. There's something there that's like keeping me from being too comfortable with a lot of sex stuff. Like, I think that's really like a thing for me. But like, usually speaking, if you genuinely get to get me to to get to make me moan, it's like you've breached that barrier. I am actually second hole. Okay. You've you're satisfying me to a point where it's just like I can't even hold it anymore. So that's that how it is for me.
SPEAKER_03So I okay, don't forget to remind me about Ace. Yeah, I'm still here. But second hole. What the fuck are you talking about here? Was this 9-11? What?
SPEAKER_01I was about to I was about to choke. What? I was drinking, I was about to choke. Oh. Jesus. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Antiways.
SPEAKER_01That was my last one today.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well. No more 9-11 jokes. Okay, but yeah. With the second hole, like, has anybody reached your second hole?
SPEAKER_01I this sounds like a myth to me. Really? I have never heard of this.
SPEAKER_03So there's not a point when you get like from me, when people hit my second hole, I'm like, oh, that's too much. Too much? Like when they're? Like they're just hitting it. Like it's just aggressive, aggressive. Yeah. I'm less like I need to we need to change position because I feel like you're hitting my second hole. But so you've never had that experience of someone like hitting a point where it like hurts, kinda.
SPEAKER_01When it comes to pain and sex, it's usually excuse me. Sorry, when it comes to pain and bottoming, it usually becomes a thing where it's like, oh, this person may not be using enough lube, or oh, this might be a thing. Um or you're like saying, like, have I had a person deep enough in me? Right. I technically have, but the thing about it is when someone was that deep in me, it wasn't like unsatisfying. What position were you in?
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SPEAKER_01Oh, you mean like I was bottom?
SPEAKER_03No, like actually like Toggy style. Well, list them all out.
SPEAKER_01We're talking about positions today.
SPEAKER_03Let's list them all out. Okay, no. Everyone! No, I'm good, because I don't even know. I don't even I'll put you in seven positions for seven eight minutes. Like, I don't know that shit.
SPEAKER_01Um Okay. So I was in the one where I'm uh face forward, ass up, third, behind face. Face down? Face down, whatever, man. Whatever. It's a face forward.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean? So that's doggy style. Okay, so doggy style then. Oh, okay. So I like I said, I've messed with a couple of the first guy that I bought him for, he had a 10-inch dick. Big ass penis.
SPEAKER_01That was the one in the car, right?
SPEAKER_03No, it was in his apartment. It was nice. Oh. It was so nice. Because it just felt like so. That's in my ears, too. Don't forget y'all. I don't give a damn. I'm let me have my moment. I'm sorry to everyone at home. It was too covered. It was just a pretty ass dick, too. Like, he was just so like caring to as a top. Like, he was like, Are you okay? Not are you okay, but he was just like interested in making sure I was okay and shit like that. He took care of you. Yeah, I was like, this is some good shit. This is a big ass thing. He just when he moaned, he was like, That's a grunt nigga. It was. That shit was like That shit was hot. Like, that shit was hot as fuck. Oh wow. I miss him.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, I do. If you ever miss your top, y'all, don't forget to call him. Right. For Pride Month, call your top For Pride Month.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, call your ex. Right, call right. Um I don't even know why I said that. Oh, because I remember now. Because he didn't, it didn't seem like he ever hit that second hole. It just it hurted, but it didn't feel like bad.
SPEAKER_01Nigga, you just say hurt it? Yeah, I did. It hurt. It hurted. I might kick your ass later.
SPEAKER_03Do it. One day. Do it. You're gonna be into it. It's been one day for a long ass day, ho. Bitch, I got time. Damn. Okay, so that didn't that hurt that. That hurt my that hurt my ears. Yeah, exactly. That's kissing my. That shit hurt it. Anyways. It didn't hurt at all. And like he never hit that. Well, it did hurt, but it didn't hurt like in a bad way.
SPEAKER_01It hurt in a good way. Like you wanted that pain. Did you start like actually going for it?
SPEAKER_03Oh, no. I was still like new to bottoming, so no, I didn't really go into it. Right. That was the first time I bottomed. Sorry. So it didn't really hurt. So it didn't feel like he was hitting my second hole. But like I've definitely had people hit that second hole and it didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. Now I have not had a person hit past it. Like and actually go inside of it. Like usually it's just like it's a hit, and I'm like, alright, back it up, nigga. Beep, beep, beep, back it up. Okay. You've hit it too far. But like I don't I don't know. Like, so you haven't had any experience with like second hole shit.
SPEAKER_01Again, like the only time I've can probably say that this uh second hole thing happened was like me when I actually was like enjoying it. But that was like that was like something of just I I don't know if this was like the second hole or if he was just going that deep or something. Like I don't I don't know, but it was just it was just satisfying. I've ever I've never been not satisfied by a penis.
SPEAKER_03Oh that's good. Well, okay. That maybe because you're a bottom, you're a verse bottom. Maybe sorry you're just what?
SPEAKER_01I I have had terrible sex experience one twice three times, maybe, but most of the time when people care about having sex properly, then yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so you're saying yeah. Um I guess everyone's had their own bad experiences, but yeah, I wonder, like, because you're a bottom, you just enjoy it a little bit more. Oh, yeah. Maybe because I'm a top, I don't enjoy as much. Maybe I don't know. Maybe yeah. I don't know. You should prove it with science. Right, let's fuck. Anyways, for probably about right now. All right, right now. On camera. I don't get for on camera. Um anyway, so going back to ACE. Right, yeah. So ACE to me means you're not interested in sex at all. Like you don't want a nut, you want nothing. Right. But you've had you've done side stuff, I feel like, with ace people.
SPEAKER_01See, um when it comes to it was my first boyfriend, and I think he was still getting to understand things as well. But he understood that he was ace. But like one of the first experiences that we had together was like g giving head in the car, like that sort of thing. Like it was like a very exchange thing. Um and it was just like I remember instances where we did just have like, you know, sperm sperm come out. Uh on podcast. Sperm ejaculated. Ah. Ah, there's children here. Okay. Where? Now they're out. Everywhere. But yeah, no, it's just like where he's he's been satisfied or whatever by that. And it's just like I I don't I don't ever like push for sex. So when it happened, it was just like we were just really into each other and that sort of thing. So I I want to say that ace people have their own spectrum of just like some people, some ace people are just like straight up, I don't want to even think about sex to any degree or with anybody or anything like that. And other people are like, I know that I'm ace and but I don't want to actually like do a lot of sex stuff. I will probably save sex or something like that for certain instances or whatnot, which is what it felt like with him. That sort of thing. It kind of just happened that way.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. There's there's there's definitely a spectrum to being ace and asexual and aromantic. Yeah. Like there could still be people who's aromantic in a relationship as well. What's aromantic? Oh, you're this is your first this is your first time hearing this? Yeah. Yeah, arrow ace people. You've ever heard of that? Aero ace? Yes, arrow ace is referring to someone who's aromantic as well as asexual, which means that's a person who probably won't be in a relationship or have sex with people.
SPEAKER_03Like you just are not romantic at all?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and that's just like how your body works. You like you're not interested in anyone into any degree at all. You don't have crushes, you don't have like things that m make you interested in other people, that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_03And that's just how they're very interesting. Yeah, it's really cool. Especially I think it's just a Someone that's like naturally wants to have sex and naturally wants to be loved and love. I think it's interesting that people just don't feel that way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's perfect. That's literally the human experience right there. Learning it that there are people out there who are just completely different and that sort of thing, having their own experiences. And that's that's the part of the community that we need to make sure that we put up. Like we need to we put a focus on everyone because that's that's that spectrum. That's the beautiful spectrum that we're on. So um I I do wonder for a person who is aromantic but not asexual, like what the like probability of them being a top or a bottom kind of looks like, I guess. I don't think it would be like too much, too, too different or anything like that, but I'm just like curious. I I haven't met a lot of asexuals or aromantics, just you know, a couple.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because I feel like if you're if you're a if you're ace or aromantic and you're a bottoming, that's just not for the week. That is not play play. Bottoming is not for play play. Bitch, first of all, you gotta it's a process cleaning out, it's a process getting ready for it, and it's a process doing it, yes. And like I said, it it does hurt. It feels good if you like the pain, but it hurts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And also, you know, if your top knows what they're doing, it's gonna feel good. So I don't know, maybe you have some bad tops. Maybe no. It's like again, maybe someone like me, uh, who has who's into bottoming, that's like, yeah, that's that's a thing. I'm just more comfortable with it maybe because you're top, you're just not as comfortable with that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, um thanks for listening, guys. Oh my god, it's a time! Yes. Oh my god. Every time we come to this situation, you're like, oh my god, it's a time.
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SPEAKER_03Okay, absolutely not. Don't put that out there.
SPEAKER_01Touch Trey's music.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Oh. Make sure to stream in my platform, bitch. Yes, I'm going to be releasing a new song soon. Oh, yeah. Um, is it gonna be released when this episode comes out? Maybe I'll release the last week of pride.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I might I might do it and get it out. Oh, clear. So yeah, in the summer, yeah. It'd be a summer bop. Summer bop. Song of the summer bitch. Yeah. I'll we'll do it. We'll talk about it next because I'll I'll be done. So we'll talk about next episode.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, we get a little preview for it. Market fame.
SPEAKER_03I'm still editing it and getting it to make it sound good.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, it should be out. Um again, other good shout out to everyone at Game Night. I cannot wait for our drag event. And to all drag queens, you're pretty amazing and awesome and uh sexy. And you deserve all the tips.
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SPEAKER_01Literally.
SPEAKER_03At this point, where are you at? If you ain't seen it, you don't even think. Because at this point, it should be already out. We no. Yes, no, I think we should say it. Why should we? Why should we? Give me one. Because at this point, if we do it, the episode would already be out. Are you sure? Either it's gonna be out or it's gonna be close to being out.
SPEAKER_01So two questions. Oh, mmm. Do they do this is a whole conversation off of the pod. Uh-huh. Okay. We will say it, but only if Trey touches my hand right now.
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