1 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,839 Speaker: Picture a dirt road. 2 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:26,160 You are walking forward. 3 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,879 Someone is walking toward you. 4 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:31,760 You each have a gun. 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,000 One bullet each. 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,600 If you shoot too early, you miss. 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,520 If you wait too long, though, they shoot first. 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:47,439 In a normal duel, if they fire and miss, you hear it. 9 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:48,399 You know. 10 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,159 You walk forward. 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,799 Take your time and you win. 12 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:56,240 But what if the guns make no sound? 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:02,960 If you fire and miss, they don't know you're empty. 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,280 And you don't know about them. 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,400 You keep walking, step by step, not knowing if the person 16 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,480 coming toward you is holding their fire or has already spent 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,680 their one shot. 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,280 In 2024, the most powerful piece of artificial intelligence 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,599 hardware ever built was named after the man who spent his life 20 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,200 thinking about this problem. 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:33,840 I'm Daina Bouquin, and this is Lore in the Machine. 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Santa Monica, California. 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,599 1950. Noon. 24 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:48,159 Every day in one office at the Rand Corporation, a group of men 25 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,719 sits down to play Kriegsspiel. 26 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:54,799 It's chess, but you can't see your opponent's pieces. 27 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,159 The referee sits between the two boards. 28 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:02,239 He tells you only whether a move you want to make is legal 29 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:03,519 or illegal. 30 00:02:03,519 --> 00:02:04,799 That's all. 31 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:06,879 Otherwise, nothing. 32 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:12,000 You are playing a game you can only have see against an 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,680 opponent you cannot read, one decision at a time. 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,039 The man who hosts this game is David Blackwell. 35 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:22,560 He is one of the most gifted mathematicians in the country. 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,599 He is also one of very few black men walking these 37 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:26,879 particular halls. 38 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:30,719 And he is completely fascinated, not by the weapons 39 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:35,039 being modeled in adjacent offices, but by the shape of not 40 00:02:35,039 --> 00:02:39,599 knowing, by what it means to act wisely without full 41 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:40,240 information. 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,240 This is not idle curiosity. 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,360 It is his research, and it leads him eventually to the 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,560 silent duel. 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,479 The math for a normal duel turns out to be straightforward. 46 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:59,759 Blackwell and his colleagues solve it in a day. 47 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:04,080 But the silent version, the one where a missed shot is 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,479 invisible, where you cannot distinguish a patient opponent 49 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:09,919 from an empty one. 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,639 That problem is something else. 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,319 It sits in the middle of everything he cares about. 52 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:21,039 How do you make decisions when the signals you need simply 53 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:22,080 don't exist? 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,680 Blackwell knew this problem from the inside. 55 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,680 He had been the seventh African American to earn a PhD in 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,560 mathematics. 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Brilliant enough that when a position opened at UC Berkeley, 58 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,520 the math department had wanted him and the university president 59 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,319 agreed. 60 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:42,319 But there was a catch no one said out loud until the offer 61 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:44,240 just quietly disappeared. 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,039 The department head's wife hosted faculty dinners, and she 63 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:52,080 refused to have a black man in her home. 64 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,960 David Blackwell spent his career making high-stakes moves 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,319 in a game where the rules were hidden, where the obstacles were 66 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:04,719 invisible until the moment they stopped him. 67 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:08,960 He understood in a way that was not abstract at all what it 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,479 meant to walk forward without knowing where the shots were 69 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:13,280 coming from. 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,879 He also had an unusual relationship with the work that 71 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:18,480 he'd been hired to do. 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,040 He had grown up in Centralia, Illinois, with a picture of 73 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,800 hand-to-hand combat on his uncle's wall, listening to his 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,639 father and uncle describe what the First World War had actually 75 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:31,600 cost them. 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:38,000 He believed quietly and without apology that war was stupid. 77 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,680 He once stopped an entire line of research, just abandoned it 78 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 completely, when he realized the math could lead somewhere 79 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,920 harmful. 80 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,680 One afternoon, an economist comes to his office. 81 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,759 He needs a number. 82 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:59,839 The probability of a major war in the next five years. 83 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,000 And he explains why. 84 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,519 Long-term resource allocation. 85 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:08,240 The question is entirely reasonable. 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Blackwell gives a textbook answer. 87 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,399 Probability only applies to repeatable events. 88 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:16,560 A war is not repeatable. 89 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,079 You can't run the next five years a thousand times and track 90 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:20,879 the outcomes. 91 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:24,639 The probability is either zero or one, and we won't know for 92 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:25,600 five years. 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,920 The economist thanks him and leaves. 94 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,439 He mentions on his way out that every statistician he'd spoken 95 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:34,000 to gave him exactly the same answer. 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,160 Blackwell is left alone with that. 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,639 And it gets worse the longer he thinks about it. 98 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:47,199 A man had come to him with perhaps the most important 99 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:49,360 question in the world at that moment. 100 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,680 A reasonable question asked in good faith. 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,279 Every mathematician Blackwell knew had handed him the same 102 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,160 useless, technically correct, but completely unhelpful answer. 103 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,360 The field had failed him. 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,519 And so had Blackwell. 105 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,959 A few weeks later, a mathematician named Jimmy Savage 106 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:12,079 comes through Rand. 107 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:17,360 Blackwell tells him about the economist, and Savage shows him 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,000 something. 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Probability does not have to be a frequency. 110 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,480 It can be a degree of belief. 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,839 A best current guess, held loosely, revised as new 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,360 information arrives. 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,079 This changes everything. 114 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:35,759 Not gradually. 115 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:37,759 Like opening a door. 116 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,600 Because this is how people actually navigate the world. 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,040 You don't wait for enough information to draw a frequency 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,920 distribution. 119 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,000 You walk into a situation with everything you currently know. 120 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,600 You make your best call. 121 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,319 And when something changes, you update. 122 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:56,240 Keep walking. 123 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,120 This is what the silent duel had been about all along. 124 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,439 In 1956, Blackwell published a paper that would eventually find 125 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:07,920 its way into machine learning textbooks. 126 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,079 The core idea is this. In a repeated game, you don't need a perfect strategy. You measure the distance between where you are and where you want to be. 127 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:23,360 You correct your next move to close the gap. 128 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Over time you converge. 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,079 Not by knowing the answer in advance, but by never stopping 130 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:31,839 the process of adjustment. 131 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:34,079 Sit with that for a moment. 132 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:40,560 Not certainty, not omniscience, just a method for moving 133 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,959 through a game you can only half see. 134 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:48,399 In 2024, Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA, stands on a stage and 135 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:51,040 announces their newest chip architecture. 136 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,759 208 billion transistors. 137 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:58,399 The most powerful piece of AI hardware they had ever built. 138 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:00,720 They named it Blackwell. 139 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:08,240 These systems, the ones now woven into search engines and 140 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,480 writing tools and medical diagnostics, are not programmed 141 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,360 with answers. 142 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,839 They are trained on human writing. 143 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:19,920 Enormous quantities of it, until they develop something 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,759 that functions like intuition about what comes next. 145 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:28,319 Not knowledge, just pattern, probability. 146 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:30,639 Best current guess. 147 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:35,600 Which means every time an LLM generates a response, it is 148 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,200 doing what Blackwell described in that RAND office. 149 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,759 Walking forward with everything it currently knows, measuring 150 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:48,639 the gap between where it is and where it needs to be, adjusting 151 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:50,159 and advancing. 152 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:52,639 It doesn't know what it doesn't know. 153 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:55,120 It can't see the whole board. 154 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,879 And neither can we. 155 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,120 We have spent years arguing about whether these systems are 156 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,720 on a path towards something that surpasses us, some kind of 157 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,360 intelligence that transcends human limits. 158 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,679 We talk about them as if they arrived from somewhere else. 159 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,720 As if they are a different kind of thing entirely. 160 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,639 But they come from us. 161 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,480 From the full written record of everything we have ever said 162 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,639 online, from all of our digitized documents, every 163 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:28,879 argument and letter and explanation and story, they move 164 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:32,159 through uncertainty exactly the way we do. 165 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:35,519 Just at a scale we can't hold in our heads. 166 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:38,240 Blackwell formalized this. 167 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,360 He built his entire life's work on top of it. 168 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,960 Not a puzzle he encountered in a book, but as something he had 169 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,320 lived in a game where the rules were hidden and the obstacles 170 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,200 were invisible until the moment they stopped him. 171 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,399 He could not have known what he was describing. 172 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,320 He could not have seen it. 173 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,440 He spent his life walking the silent duel. 174 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,240 And then, without knowing it, he taught us how to build things 175 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,279 that walk it too. 176 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,879 We didn't build an oracle. 177 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:14,159 We built a mirror. And then we were surprised when it couldn't 178 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:16,080 see what we couldn't see. 179 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:22,399 The guns are still silent, and we're all still walking. 180 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,799 I'm Daina Bouquin, and this is Lore in the Machine. 181 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:30,639 Now this is the point where the music usually starts playing, 182 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:34,080 but I haven't done the thing yet that seems obvious, and that's 183 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,399 to ask you to rate and subscribe to this podcast if you enjoy 184 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:38,559 it. 185 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,000 It'll really help others find the show, and it'll give me 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,519 something to smile about too. 187 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:44,879 Thanks for listening.