Walt and Jim Do Movies - Part two

Another round of movie banter.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Hello, I'm Jim Williams, and you're on the porch. For those of you that listen to the podcast, you might listen to Walt and Jim Do the Movies Part 1. Well, if you're back, that must mean that you liked it because this is Walt and Jim Do Movies Part 2. And I hope you liked Part 1 because we certainly enjoy bringing it to you. And now we're going to do part two. Walt, thanks for coming back. Glad to be back, Jim. We're going to do some different movies for you. We'll give you a variety of movies you can download. Yeah, you might have to get up and go out and see a couple of them. But for the most part, they're going to be available to you on TV somehow. Okay, let's launch right into it. Walt, what do you got?

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Well, I'll tell you, we covered a lot of ground last week, didn't we? We did, yes. Uh it was a lot to take in. I'm trying to remember what all we talked about, but it seemed like we really stepped stuck in a genre that was a little bit back maybe 70s, 60s, around that time. Yes, which I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but if I do remember, didn't we get to a point where we were talking about films and Best Picture 1975?

SPEAKER_03 1:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

So I think if we revisit that, all right. At the time we were talking about Dog Day Afternoon with uh Al Pacino and John Cassell. Well, I want to touch on John Cassell real quick. Okay. You know he died. Yes. But you think about the series of films that he made up until his death, I think there were maybe five films that he made that were just classics. And he was married to Meryl Streep at the time. They were either living together or married when he died. So you've got Godfather, you've got a film called The Conversation with Gene Hackman. Okay. Right? You've got Godfather II, which was great. Yes. You've got Dog Day Afternoon, and then what was his final film? You want to take a shot at that? Now he was in this film with Meryl Streep, and he was also in this film with an actor from Godfather Part Two.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Well, but wasn't he in part three also? No, he was not.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

He died, he died shortly. He actually died in 1978, I think it was before this last film was released. And the last film was Best Picture. You're not talking about Sophie's Choice. No, no, no, no. That's that's you know, Meryl Streep. I love this. Okay, what is it? You want me to give you some more clues? Yeah. It's a war movie. Oh. It's an incredibly intense war movie. 1978. It also has Robert De Niro in it, who played the young Don in Godfather 2.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

And again, I said it had Meryl Streep. It's got a couple other actors. I can't. George Zigna or whatever, I can't remember how to pronounce his last name. He's got a small part in it. I don't have it. It's the Deer Hunter.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Well, let me just tell you this, and this is why I don't have it. I have intentionally never watched The Deer Hunter. And I understand why.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Uh I didn't mean to get down that, but yes, that is not a comfortable film whatsoever. No. To me, I enjoy the parts leading up to when they get in Vietnam, and then I'm done. I can't watch it. Right. But anyway, he was in that film too. So what an actor. So we go back to 1975, and the best pictures nominated that year. This was the 48th Annual Academy Awards. Okay. Was Barry Linden. It was a Kubrick film. Yes. Dog Day Afternoon. Okay. Jaws. Right. Nashville, Robert Altman. Yes. And then the winner, 1975, was I watched this, and again, great, great characters, an incredible, one of the greatest actors of all time. And when I watched it, I said, I've got to watch every movie that he's ever been in. So I started doing a deep dive on this actor. Another little bit of trivia, Danny DeVito is in this movie. And when I was in junior high with Ricketts, he was there, he could tell you this story, at East, 1976. Right after this film came out. Wasn't long after. 76, 77. Danny DeVito came over there. He was there.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yes, I heard that.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Yeah. I talked to Ricketts about that later. Um, Christopher Lloyd. Am I getting are you getting close?

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Danny DeVito. Christopher Lloyd.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

What type of movie?

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Let me guess it.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Yeah, okay. Well, I mean, we're testing you a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

It can't be No, it can't be that. Okay, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Had a big Indian in it.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

No, not the Green Mile. Cuckoo's Nest. Oh. Deserved it.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Deserved it. It did deserve it. Yeah. When I watched it, I was like, wow. Yeah. What just happened? I mean, it's not a happy it's well, you know, it depends on how you look at it. Right. But it's it's a it's a while. Michael Douglas produced that movie. I think I might have known that. Yeah, he produced that movie. And he was young. That was 1975, so in 74 or so back in the time. That was groundbreaking for him. That was probably one of his biggest moments up until that time. But Jack Nicholson.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

Well, I mean Nicholson now that brings to mind so many movies. One flew over the cuckoo's nest, The Nurse. My gosh, what a part. I think she won Best Actress.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Well, she should have. I'm trying to remember her name and I'm gonna have to look it up. I'm again Nurse Ratchet. It was Louise Fletcher, of course. But the Indian who they had a hard time finding someone to play that role. And I I read something or heard something. Michael Douglas was telling the story. They he had a friend that worked at a car dealership or something out in Seattle, Washington, I want to say, or worked somewhere, and he knew of a Native American that worked there that was very tall because they wanted somebody big. Right. You're just about as big as a mountain. Right. They found, I think his name's William Redfield. I may be wrong. I'm gonna have to look that up. But he walked into the room, blew him away. He was chief right there. No, William Red Redfield played Harding. I'm sorry. Will Sampson played uh Chief Bromden. He'd never acted before. Yeah. William Redfield was Harding. But it was uh full of characters, but the underlying point of all that, what I took away from it, and I don't know if that was the intention, but you know, I think it is, is that uh the Nicholson character, McMurphy, provided more therapy for those men than Nurse Ratchet did. If you notice Billy Bibbett at the end, when he ends up with one of McMurphy's girls, he loses his stutter all of a sudden. He takes some fishing. They all come together, and it's you know, it's just kind of ironic how that uh film ends.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Well, remember the premise is Nicholson, I think he's gonna go to jail or something. Oh, yeah. And he just works it around, so he goes to the insane to something.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Well, the thing is he thinks it's easier. Right. But he finds out that it's not, and it's very frustrating when you want to watch the World Series, and you can't. And and then all the dynamics, and he's trying to play cards with them, and they're breaking cigarettes in half and don't understand, and he that's another bit of irony. He thinks that, yeah, I'm gonna go in here and I'm gonna just do my time real easy and I can go. Then he finds out that a lot of the men there are voluntary. And they can get up and walk and leave whenever they want to. Yep. And it shocks him. Uh, and then they see him as a kind of a hero type.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Let me just say, here's your first movie to download and watch. This one, I am sure, I'm almost sure you can find this one for free. But if there is a rental charge, it's going to be low. It's going to be, you know, $299, $3.99. Well worth it. Plan on spending an evening or an afternoon watching this one if you haven't seen it. And if you have seen it, watch it again anyway. I I'd say it's worthwhile.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Well, it is. And it's not, you know, it's it's it's uncomfortable in parts. It is. What happens to Nicholson? But to me, it was the acting and the characters together. So I I see Jack Nicholson, I said, gosh, let me see what else he's done. So I go back and watch Five Easy Pieces, I watch The Last Detail, I watched Easy Rider, I'd seen that, but he's not in that very long because he meets a similar demise in that film. But the scenes where he they find him in the prison cell, uh Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda, and he rides with them. That they're just some of the best scenes in the whole movie. He just makes it. That I became a big Jack Nicholson. This has been 25 or 30 years ago, maybe four back in the 80s when I saw it for the first time. I was one of his biggest fans at the time and watched everything I could.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

One of the movies he did, and I think the name of it was Werewolf or Wolf.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

He did Werewolf, I think was the name. Maybe a wolf, you're right. He played the Wolf Man. And that was excellent. It's always good, yeah. As Good As It Gets is another one that I liked. Yes. He's very, very good in terms of endearment. Sad movie, but his scenes to me with Shirley McLean. Yeah. Of course, Deborah Winger's a great actress, they were good. It's just the characters he plays. Yes. Are you never know what they're going to say or do.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

And I do want to say, we last time we talked about a movie that I like called Mars Attacks. No spoiler alert here, but don't be surprised if you see Jack Nicholson pop up in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

I think I remember that now. Yeah. You got me real curious. I thought about that all week. And now it's a good movie. I mean, I gotta go check that out. I really do.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

Let's do some more of what you got. I got a couple more.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Well, I don't want to take the ball. You go ahead if you got something. I got all kinds.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Let me let me give you a couple of movies, and then I want us to end today with talking about monster movies. Not necessarily specifically, but kind of the way they've developed over the years with AI and stuff like that. Okay. So here's a movie. This is a stupid movie. It does have a plot. And when you're five minutes into the movie, if you haven't got the plot figured out, you really need to maybe go back to school because this movie is just excellent. It's just funny and it's good to watch. It's called Down Periscope, done in 1996. It stars Kelsey Grammer, Bruce Dern is in it, Rob Schneider is in it, and here's what makes it good Lauren Hawley is in it. Now, for those of you that remember what Lauren Hawley looks like, think of that, think of her physical shape, let's say. And now this movie takes place on an old World War II submarine with men and Lauren Hawley passing each other in the hallway. I think it's called the gangway or the galleyway, all the time in the movie. Just just let your mind go to where that is, where they're passing each other, one going one way, one going the other. It's a fun movie. Of course, I like anything Kelsey Grammer does. I I just like him. I'm a Frasier fan. I'm a Cheers fan, actually. So I like that. I recommend it. This one I know is free because uh I was sitting up the other night and uh it just popped up uh on my YouTube channel, uh, and I watched the whole movie again for free. I recommend that one. Now, along the same lines, but a little different, there's one called The Wackiest Ship in the Army. Stars Jack Lemon and Ricky Nelson. The billing is Ricky Nelson, not Rick Nelson. It is about kind of the same lines. A Navy man gets command of a ship, but it's really not the ship he wanted. It's a little old sailing ship. I think it's a two-masted schooner, as I recall, and it they send it on a special mission, fun all the way, a tiny bit of a nod toward World War II. There's a little bit of action in it, but for the most part, it's just it's just a fun movie. Uh I think Ricky Nelson does sing a song in it, which would be unusual if he didn't. While I'm on Ricky Nelson, before I get back to Walt, Rio Bravo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Really. Yeah, I was gonna say that. I was gonna pivot. That's a good segue. Yeah. What Ricky Nelson John Wayne movie is there? So you know if you're gonna pivot to John Wayne, why not use a Ricky Nelson reference to get there? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

John Wayne made that movie at least twice with the same script and the same premise. Uh both times. One, it was with Dean Martin, and uh can't remember who was on the second one, but his sidekick in the second one was uh James Conn. I'm familiar with the first one.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

It had Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson. Yeah, Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson. I think it had Angie Dickinson. Angie Dickinson. She was a young Angie Dickinson at the time. I could see why my grandparents thought a lot of her. You know. Walter Brennan was in it, and Ward Bond.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

So that was a classic. Walter Brennan was excellent in it. Ward Bond played a short part. And there again, if you're looking for if you like John Wayne, you're gonna like all of them. Most of them you can recite the script if you even if you haven't seen the movie, you're gonna know it.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

I talked about Jack Nicholson and going down a Jack Nicholson rabbit hole. I've done that with John Wayne too. Because there's that such a wide catalog of films they've been in. Oh, yeah. And it's fun sometimes just to watch some of those, even going back to Stagecoach. Stagecoach. And um, you know, the searchers. Oh, the searchers was hardcore. It was great, though. So good. Yeah. He was also in The Man Who Shot Liberty Violence with Jimmy Stewart.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

What an excellent, subdued role. Kind of in the background, even though he's the main guy. Right. You realize, well, it's all about Jimmy Stewart. Right. But it's really John Wayne. Lee Marvin, James Coburn that was in that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

That that was uh just just great stuff.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Yeah. Really, like you said, starting out, actually, this wasn't his first movie, but stagecoach when he was Johnny Ringo. Yeah, he did a movie shortly after that with Clifton Webb. Red River. Red River. Yeah, yeah. Red River. What a nice movie. That's another one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

They're epic produced movies at the time. Yeah. And John Wayne basically plays the same character. Yeah, he's always the same. It's so much fun to watch. It's just uh good storytelling.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Well, and then in his later years, True Grit, yeah, the Cowboys.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yes. All those were but what a career. You know, if you talk about iconic actors of our time, obviously he's he left his mark. We talked about Brando last week. Yeah. Yeah. Nicholson and so forth. You know, another one I that I always think about is um one of my favorite actors, if just because of what all he's done is Clint Eastwood. Oh. I mean. If you think what is he, 95, 96 years old? He's still acting and producing? He's getting up there.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I think the last movie was The Juror No.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

9 or something, but he's made something since then.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Well he was in wasn't it the Mole or something like that? Where he was a The Mule. That was The Mule.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

It was before Juror No. 9, I believe. I'd have to look, I think that's the name of the film. But you think about Unforgiving, what a great film that was. And then Million Dollar Baby. Who I think that won Best Picture also. Maybe who was the fighter? Hillary Swank. Hillary's career he's had with different types of movies. Yeah. You could take the whole dirty hairy genre out and how he played that character. And then you know you got Kelly's Heroes. Remember that? Kelly's Heroes was The War Heroes. Yeah. Where Eagles Dare, I think he was in that, which Eagles Dare. Then you think about all the Westerns, the Spaghetti Westerns, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Really? All those that he'd uh, you know, a few dollars more. Outlaw Josie Wales.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Well, Outlaw Josie Wells, that's a step above, I think, the spaghetti westerns, because you know, he became basically a deserter. Fistful of dollars, that's what I was thinking. Oh, fistful of dollars, few dollars more, hang them high. Those are all good movies. Really, you can't go wrong with Clint Eastwood.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

What do you think about Gr Gran Torino, which was kind of outside all the other types?

SPEAKER_02 16:57

You know, I like Gran Torino. It kind of bothered me in that I thought for an Eastwood movie, it might have been just a little bit too close to home. Those kinds of situations can happen. Dirty Harry, the scene in the diner when his sugar his coffee has too much sugar in it, and he comes back in and he takes out that's right and he just blows those guys through the window. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Now, was that was that Dirty Harry or was that one of the Dirty Harry later ones? That was suddenly for sudden impact. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the gauntlet uh that he was in. That was another one with his wife at the time, I think. They they were married. Sandra Locke. Yes. But yeah, I mean, I that's one actor. You think about I don't know how many credits he's got, how many film credits he's got, but it's got to be five or six hundred or more. Yes. But if you count producing and directing, it's probably getting closer to a thousand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Yeah. That reminds me of a scene, and I can't remember the movie, but I'm gonna describe the scene. It's a war movie. They're Marines, I think, and they're at the top of a hill. I believe it's uh takes place in the Korean War, I'm not sure. Anyway, the main character is there and he's trying to hold a hill, and a young soldier comes up, a young Marine comes up, and the CO says to him, Look, we need for you to get this message over to the lieutenant. He goes over, he gets the message, and he comes back. And the commanding officer says, What are you doing back here? I sent you over there, deliver the message, and go on. He says, Who do you think you are? Audie Murphy? And the character is Audie Murphy. It was a great I don't think I've seen that. Well, I can't remember the movie now, but it definitely was a Korean War because obviously Audie Murphy was World War II. If I think about it, I'll mention it before we get off the air, but it is such a great line that steps outside of the movie and just kind of jabs at the audience real quick. That's good. I like that. That's a great line.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

You know, I've been thinking about what to talk about, and you know, I like genre type movies. Well, like we haven't really talked about comedies, but I I'd like to get to that. Sure. Uh, but I also want to talk about buddy films. Yeah. Buddy, you know, like a thelma and Louise type of thing. But I I look at the two of my favorites, Butch Casting and the Sundance Kid, Redford and Newman, and the chemistry they shared on screen. Absolutely. That movie. And then they did it again with a sting. Oh, yeah. You know, another movie, a couple of not as well known, but I think they are, was 48 hours. I think this was Eddie Murphy's first film, and he's paired with Nick Nolte. Yep. It just worked. The two of them just clicked. There was another one with James Groden and Robert De Niro. Have you seen this one? It's called Midnight Run.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

Yes, I have. I thought that was another great book. That's that's a good one. But while we're talking about I'm gonna interrupt you, while we're talking about Nick Nolte and really Robert Redford, A Walk in the Woods. Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah. That I I've never been an overly Nick Nolte fan. I mean, I like him, uh, but I can take him or leave him. A walk in the woods is a cut above. It's a fun film. His character is excellent in that. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

I adore that one too.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

So let me let me say this uh to those of you that are listening, because uh many of you might have listened within the last couple of weeks to our McDowell Trail session where we talked about trails and hiking and the Appalachian Trail. Here's two movies for you to watch. One is A Walk in the Woods, Robert Redford and Nick Nolte, and that's about uh an excursion on the Appalachian Trail.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Was it a true story?

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Well, yes, it it's an exactly true story because you can buy the book, A Walk in the Woods, and it's the guy describes what he did. Yeah, yeah. And he lived close to the Appalachian Trail. The other one is stars Reese Witherspoon, not one of my favorites. Yeah. Uh and it's a hike on the Pacific Crest Trail. I remember, I don't remember the name of that film. I did see it, though. It's good. It's very good. I like that one. And she plays a basically a recovering drug, right? Uh, and deals with her demons on the walk. Can't remember the name of it, but let me look it up while you're talking.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Maybe I can see we need to we need we can't just say the film and not give a name, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Yes, because this is where if you're listening, this is one that you're gonna want to look up. Uh so here's two great hiking movies.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Wild was the name of that film, and she actually produced it according to in one movie database. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Reese Witherspoon in Wild and Robert Redford Nick Nolan. In a walk in the woods. Both of them you can sit down and enjoy. If you're a hiker, they're done so well that, for example, the Pacific Crest Trail one with Witherspoon is done on the Pacific Crest Trail. So if you've hiked it, uh which I have, hiked parts of it, you'll recognize parts of the trail. And the other one is actually done on the Appalachian Trail. You will recognize many, many parts of the Appalachian Trail. I I recognize spots because I've walked so much of it. A couple weeks ago, Steve Pierce and I were talking about a part of the Appalachian Trail called Little Hump and Big Hump, and they are featured in a walk in the woods. Try to get those. You'll enjoy them. I'm guessing they probably are going to require a little bit of a rental payment if you want to rent them for an evening, but it's not going to break the bank. Okay, what else you got?

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I want to talk about a period in my life where um there were blockbusters. And it seemed like I was at the impressionable age of you know twelve or thirteen years old when these started happening. And the first one I mean, of course, we talked about jaw. That was great, 1975. Right. I remember when Star Wars came out. Yes. I was twelve years old, I think I was. And my cousin was a couple of years older than me, and he knew the world more than I did, and I looked up to him. But he he and I would watch this film and we would go see it any chance we got to see it. And on the big screen when it first came out. And to first see special effects like that, with the storyline and the lightsaber and all this that was going on, it just blew me away. And then you've got Raiders of the Lost Ark that came out. Oh, yeah. Close Encounters of the Third Kind was another one that came out during that time. And these were must-see films that would come out, and you couldn't wait to see them. E.T. was another one. But they all seemed to be coming along the same time. And then you get the Empire Strikes Back and uh Return of the Jedi. I thought I thought Empire was the best of the three early films, personally.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Well, I thought the first three were the best of the film. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

I don't count the after that. I'm I'm not a fan. I'm an old school. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it was uh Empire, Star Wars, and then Return of the Jedi.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

But you know what my favorite Raiders of The Lost Ark was? The one with Sean Connery. There was the dialogue in that was so funny.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Yeah. I'm still original.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

In the original, we saw that in the theater. And when that rock starts rolling, that round rock, I just kept getting lower and lower in my seat.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

You know, we talked about an opening sequence that grabs you. Yes. I don't think you could build one any better than that. I mean, uh, I think that was a Paramount film, and they had the mountain in the beginning where they imposed that. Yeah. And then you see the real mountain, and then he's in the jungle, and there's no dialogue really until he gets to the cave. You just, you're, you're really, you buy in right there.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Yes, yes. You're hooked.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

But but those were is just a time, it was about a six or seven year period for me that these were just iconic films that came out almost every summer.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

And you know, the thing about it, and maybe it's just that we've grown into adults, but well, I was an adult when I watched these movies. I was excited about going. I couldn't wait to get in and get my seat and watch it. I I I was like a little kid. I knew I'm gonna have a fun experience. I got a 14-gallon size bucket of popcorn here and a big drink, and I'm gonna drink that drink and hold it until this movie is over because I enjoyed it so much.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Well, uh the movie would transport you outside of reality. Yes, yes, and as an impressionable twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen-year-old, boy, what a trip that was.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

But to to see all that on the screen, the big screen for the first time, and to go from what we had seen in science fiction previous to that, to this with the ship that goes over right in the beginning of Star Wars. That thing lasted forever. My goodness. Yeah. Uh we've never seen anything like this. Yep. And the effects of of scrolling the story into space, that was just things like we had un we were unheard heard of. Right. So I I think about that period of time in my life when these movies, bam, bam, bam, were coming out and never must see.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Whether you were uh your age, you were in school. I was probably when I saw those movies, I was home. I was home from service and probably had some kind of an office job, and you had to watch it because well, if you didn't see the movie, you were out of the loop when you got to the office.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Yeah, you couldn't well, yeah, but you couldn't watch it again. There's no streaming. Everything's right there now. You can watch just like music.

unknown 26:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

If I wanted to hear one of my favorite songs, that turn on the radio and hope it comes on.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Now you just pop it in. And the same with movies, then you couldn't it didn't come on television.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

No.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

I mean, if if it did, that was a heck of an event. So plus you needed the big screen anyway. You needed the impact. And when it did come on television, they changed the aspect ratio. So you didn't get the full film, and they would do this pan where they would pan the camera to show the full effect because the screen, the dimensions are not the same as they are in the theater. So it wasn't the same film at all. And that's all we got. We had these square TV tubes and a rectangular movie theater, and it just doesn't work. No. So you had to go to the theaters.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

You had to go. They had you hooked, you know, later on when you'd be outside the theater and everybody's in dressed in some kind of costume and something. I sort of lost that. I liked it because just an average guy off the street walks in and gets amazed and entertained. And that's what movies really ought to be about.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Oh, I agree. I I think it should be an experience. Yes. Yes. Now I get usually get pissed off because somebody's talking behind me or taking the seat or it's it's the phone rings. And so I don't go to films much anymore in the movies. I don't go to the theater.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

No, we don't either. Well, here's another thing that keeps us from going now is uh, you know, after the COVID thing, you realize that public places like theaters cannot be that clean. The guy that's was there an hour before you, he had a cold and he's coughing and he's holding on to the handles of the seat, and then you're holding on to the handles of your seat, and pretty soon you get a cold.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Exactly, Jim. I feel the same way. So why not get you a big TV and watch it in the comfort of your own home? I could spend $25 on one of those films, Pressure, that we talked about last week. Yep. And that's about what it would cost me to go to the theater and watch it. And then watch it over and over and over again. Yep. So that's been a trade-off for me, but I it's nothing like that experience. And that point in time for me, personally, when those films were coming out, and you had to go to the theater. And you had to wait in line and and hope that you could get a ticket.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Well, during that period of time, we did not even think about getting sick from going to the movie. No, we didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

That was not even in the on the horizon. We didn't wear helmets when we rode our bikes, we didn't wear seatbelts, and we drank out of a hose.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Yes, that's right. So that was and here we are. Right. We I made it so far. Yeah, so far. Maybe I'll knock on wood here. I don't want to tempt fate. You got anything else you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Well, yeah, I mean, uh mentioned comedy films.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

You know, you want to talk about monsters. We got horror films. Oh, yeah. We've got comedy. So what are some of your favorite comedies?

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Honestly, I you're gonna think this is strange, but not coming from you. I I don't I don't much care for comedy movies because it it feels so contrived. Um like I say, I'm right now in the first blushes of a movie that I might like. It's a comedy movie, supposed to be true. I can't remember the name of it, but the characters are just so ridiculous that I I really can't get into it. I might agree with you if you come up with one, but but comedy-wise, you know, even an old time comedy movie that was supposed to be a side splitter, and nobody listening is gonna remember this, and it was called No Time for Sergeants with Andy Griffith. Andy Griffith, yeah, sure. Believe it or not, I I was too young to appreciate it anyway. But as I've watched it in later years I don't laugh. I don't I don't think it's funny. I just uh well what I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

I mean I'm still in the same you know, the Bill Murray movies. Uh I like Billy. Bill Murray, I enjoyed it. I like Animal House. You know, sometimes something that is so absurd that it's funny to me. I like that. The absurdity in it. And it depends on my mood if I'm wanting to really uplift myself. Sometimes I'll pop in a comedy.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

I mean, you know, I talked about stripes. I talked about cat we caddyshack and animal, those are the classics, some of those. I I like trading trading places is another one. I'm I'm not my mind, I'm I'm having to pivot a lot here, so I'm loose in some stuff. So sideways, we talked about last week, is a comedy.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

And and I think that's funny.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Well, see, the thing of it is, all of those movies you mentioned, I do not find particularly funny. Even though I like Bill Murray, I like stripes, I like the idea of basic training and all of that stuff. A comedy that I do like, I have to admit, the Peter Sellers Pink Panther movies. There's a there's a scene in one of the Pink Panther movies where Dreyfus, his boss, is complaining to him, and he's walking across the yard and he steps on a rake and it flips up and it hits him right between the eyes.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

So you're more of the three stooges style of comedy.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Okay. That caught me off guard and I couldn't help it.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

I thought Bridesmaids was fantastic. I thought it was hilarious. I thought Hangover was hilarious. Those are some of the newer ones. Didn't like either one. Yeah, that's fine. Some of those were funny. I'm trying to think of some others that are more recent because I feel like we're kind of stuck in one.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Yeah, I know. Well, older movies were maybe they were just better. I don't know. I mean, see, they didn't have a point of view to try to they weren't trying to make us think something, they were just there.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Extract is a comedy, a very good comedy, which I really like too. We talked about that last week as well. So apparently comedies are not your thing. What about horror? There are a couple horror movies that I like. What's the scariest movie you've ever seen? I've got one.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Well, I believe the scariest movie. Hmm. I'll have I'll have to think. Give me yours and let me think. I'm still in the 70s. Okay, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 33:02

And the Blair.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Oh, the Blair Whitney. Oh, no. The Exorcist.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Terrifying.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Yeah. Well. I I I know what it's about. Is it is there a reason you've not seen it?

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Is it because of the subject matter? I cannot stand to see people throw up in the movies. It if I'm trying to eat my chicken wings.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Well, maybe put aside the food when you watch it, but but I'm not going to tell you to watch it because it's very disturbing. It's scary.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

It is scary. I know it's a scary movie. I just don't care for it. Uh and I mentioned without thinking, I mentioned the the Blair Witch project. I watched it twice. Didn't scare me at all. The idea that you don't see the bad guy, the monster that didn't hook me. I I guess I don't have any really scary movies that I like. This is not a scary movie, it's not meant to be, but the first scream. Yeah. That that mask on that guy scared the heck out of me. And then I think it was Saturday Night Live, or somebody did a parody of it, and every time the poor monster would come out with that mask on or the killer, somebody would hit him over the head and the mask would change. You know, his facial expression would change. Uh I did enjoy that one. That was pretty scary for me. The first one, after the first one, you know, they were just well, they were trying to make more money by just being the same. Yeah, I I didn't mind that. I just didn't care for it.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Yeah, I was in high school during the slasher films, Friday 13th, Freddie Krueger, those sort of things. Jason, you know.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Never seen a Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah. I've seen two or three of them. And of course, I was 15, 16, 17 years old when those were hitting the theater the first time. And so that's what you did at that age. You go watch people get carved up. Kevin Bacon was actually in the original not long after he was in um Animal House.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Oh, yeah, okay. Well, now going back because you mentioned Friday 13th, so I'm going to go back to a comedy that I liked, Fish Call Wanda.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Jamie Lee Curtis. You've opened up uh yeah, you've opened up a new door. That's that's a great one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

I like almost anything that Kevin Klein is in it.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Kevin Klein's in it, and then you've got the British actors um John Cleese. John Cleese from the uh yeah Monty Python fame. So that that's a really clever movie. And it is an older one too. You know, when you said that, it made me think about the Cohen films. Did you see Fargo? If I was ever going to get a tattoo, I would tattoo Fargo on my arm.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

So explain why. Well, I'm gonna first talk about Fargo the movie, and then we'll maybe talk about Fargo the series. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Fargo the movie, I absolutely loved every part of it, the isolation of it, the snowbound thing, and the chipper shredder at the end. Now, let me tell you, let me tell you a little side story. Janet and I went to Fargo, North Dakota, and I actually met the chipper shredder. Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

Really?

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

The the chipper shredder played the role?

SPEAKER_02 36:18

No, the chipper shredder. Oh, you saw the it's sitting in the museum in Fargo, North Dakota, and I went up and I touched it. Common as an old shoe, didn't put on airs for a Hollywood uh star. That chipper shredder was just as common as could be. Uh and I enjoyed meeting it. I took its picture, I got a picture of me and him together. The chip the real chipper shredder, the one that I saw, was inside the museum because they keep it in there. Yeah. There's also, believe it or not, the chipper shredder had a stand-in. I don't understand. I don't either. But they because they were worried about it breaking down or something, they did a lot of their scenes practiced with the stand-in chipper shredder. Well, it's out on the lawn at at the museum, and you can see it too.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Well, I wish I had a picture of that. Oh because I I love the film. Oh my gosh. Uh, you know, we're not a bank, Jerry. Just all the great lines in there. William H. Macy and how desperate he becomes because one lie leads to another.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Um You want to know what I think about that attracts me to that movie? You remember they're up on the roof. Yep. The old guy is going to make the payoff, the million dollars, and the other guy shoots him. The fact that he shoots him and he's got this big puffy jacket on, and the little feathers fly out of the bullet holes.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Well, yeah, I mean, that's what I like about it. It's the little things that you don't think about. But the lead character, your hero in the movie, is a pregnant woman. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Frances McDormand. Yeah. Great. Yes. And how many movies have you seen with a pregnant woman where they never have the baby? Right. I mean, never. This one they do. Yeah. They don't, they never show the baby. She's just pregnant the whole time. So really, it's like, okay, she's pregnant. It's not like the baby's going to have some sort of role in this, which is usually the case. Right. But that that's just another piece of that. Steve Bushimi is great in everything. And it just it's it's almost like you start feeling sorry for William H. Macy. But in such a horrible person. It's it's I mean, what what kind of film can make you feel sorry for one of the worst people in the world?

SPEAKER_02 38:39

And when they catch him, he cries, you know, they pull him out of the hotel room and he's screaming and crying. I mean, it's just so well done. Then that's a comedy, right? So you like that one? Yeah, I think it's kind of a comedy. A dark comedy. However, they went to the series. Did you see the series? I did. Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

It was good. Uh so yeah, that's they did about four of those, I think.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Yeah, they did. And they you were supposed to track the storyline after the Billy Bob Thornton one. I kind of lost track of it, but he was mean dude. There's just no doubt. The elevator scene in Las Vegas.

unknown 39:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Now that took me off guard.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

I wasn't expecting it. I'm gonna have to remember that. I it's been a while since I saw that, so I don't remember the specifics behind it. But what he does is just and Landman, he's got that new series. He's really he brings that. I always think about Sling Blade. Yes, that the voice he did in that. He wrote that. And that was how he got in the business. But an another dark film that's uh got great characters.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Well, I I have I didn't in in the beginning, but I have come to like Billy Bob Thornton in almost anything he does. You know, he's a he's got a band, he's a song.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Oh, I know that's what he does. Yeah, he sings.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

He does such a good job in well, Slingblade is classic. I mean, Slingblade, he's a genuine actor right there, you know, and you just cannot discount how good he really is.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

First of all, he's gotta hold his jaw like that for every scene. Yeah. That's gotta hurt after a while.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

But in Fargo, he scares me in Fargo. He really does. And I don't know the guy's name, but the guy that plays kind of the milk toast insurance guy.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

Oh, it's uh what's his name? No, I know who it is. He's a British actor. Yeah. Um Martin somebody. Well, he does. He was in the office, the original office. Uh Martin Freeman. Yeah, Martin Friedman. I like him. Yeah. I didn't know. I'm a big fan of the British version of The Office, and he's in it. Oh my god. So Ricky Gervais. But that, yeah, he's he's always good. We could do TV and movies, but we'll stick to movies. Yeah. We're kind of crossing over a little bit, aren't we?

SPEAKER_02 41:03

I don't want to discount Ricky Gervais. He's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 41:06

Oh, he's great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Okay, so what else? You got anything else?

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Well, um, you know, I could go down the list here of some of the movies. Uh, what do you got?

SPEAKER_02 41:15

Well, I want to talk a little bit about King Kong and the evolution of King Kong. I'm all ears. And also a maybe I'll touch on the evolution of Godzilla. King Kong in the beginning, I I I don't remember, but I think it was back in the 1930s or something. That they use the what they call stop motion or claymation. They that's it's developed into uh called being called claymation, where the figure is positioned, they take a shot, they reposition him, they take another shot, so that when the film rolls, it looks like the the animal's moving. The plot for King Kong has always been basically the same. King Kong falls in love with the young girl, climbs the uh building with her, gets shot down, falls, he dies. And you know early on in the movie, whichever version, I think there are maybe four versions out.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

I think there'd be more than that, but you may be right.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

The last one was that's pretty much AI, and it's very, very well done. It has Jack Black in it. Yeah. And it's it's nicely done, but that poor gorilla, he comes down and he captures the girl, used to be Fay Ray, and then whoever the latest one is. He grabs her because the natives put her up as a sacrifice, and he grabs her, or every other time he's come down and grabbed the girl, we're led to believe that he just pops her in his mouth, chews her up, and goes. For some reason, he just grabs her and he takes her back up to the cave. And then he opens his hand in all the movies, whatever version you're watching, he opens his hand and he looks at her, and they cut to his eyes, and you see he gets that moony look in his face, and you know right then you're thinking, Monkey, you are screwed. If you've never seen the movie, you know poor old King Kong, he's not gonna make it. Yeah, that's the end for him. Yeah. It's you know, it's a Shakespearean tale. It's a romance. Yeah, yeah, it's Romeo and Juliet. I enjoy that. I've enjoy I enjoy every one of them. There was a spin-off called Joe Black, I think is the name of it. Yeah, that's right. And it's uh it's the gorilla on the island, and uh that's it's an old one. He survives, he does something heroic, pulls an orphan out of a burning orphanage, and then they take him back to the island where he lives happily with the couple that's that live there with him. So I like that part of it. Now, Godzilla, the original Godzilla in Japan was a guy in a suit, you know, in a Godzilla suit. And if you watch that movie and you see him walking around, because the Japanese movie makers were particularly good with their miniatures. And the Godzilla figures. So I almost like that one better than the newer ones, Godzilla, Godzilla Meets Mothra, and all of those because they're just a little bit more than I can chew. But there was a Godzilla movie. You'll know the name of the guy. I cannot remember it. But the opening scene, it's Godzilla. It's a modern movie. But when Godzilla comes into New York, everybody's just sitting at a table and the water in the glass starts vibrating because he's taking steps. And I thought that was pretty good. That was a good scene in that.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

And that's kind of a takeoff on Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Exactly. It's the exact same thing. And there again, there's a whole other series of movies. Oh, yeah, I tell you.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

You might need to do a third show.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Yeah, we might have to.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

You're more in you have more knowledge about the Godzilla sh movies in King Kong than I do. So I'm gonna, you know, just give that to you and let you be the expert there. I did, I do remember 1976, uh Jessica Lang, Jeff Bridges, Dino DiLortez came out with a big one. I that was again, I was 11 years old, so it was a big deal to me.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

But uh Yeah, the the one with Jessica Lang, that's that's the one where particularly Charles Grodin was in that as well. Yes, he was. That's right. But you look at King Kong's eyes in that one when he opens his palm and there's Jessica Lang and she's all sexy looking, and and that poor gorilla just he's gone.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Well, that's the end of the story for him. You know he's not gonna make it. That's the end of the story. I used to watch uh again, I keep staying in this time period, a show called Shock Theater.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

You remember that? Yes. So every now and then they would show a King Kong, they would show the Wolfman and Frankenstein movies and Dracula. So that was always a real treat. And Godzilla, too. They would show those, it seems like.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

You know, I just watched last night, I was sitting up late on the regular TV channel, I think it was, they play young Frankenstein. Oh boy. Holy moly. Oh boy. Well you can watch that over and over and not catch everything, but like last night I'm just sitting up by myself and I'm watching it. There are so many little nuances in that show. Uh Marty Fellman. Yeah, what a character.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Yeah, uh Abby Normal. You got an abnormal brain and put it into the and the way the way that Gene Wilder builds up to his anger. He starts off, so you didn't get the the brain I asked you to get. No. Which one did you get? It was Abby someone. You know, he says, Oh, good. So he's like, okay, good. You completely messed this up, but I'm gonna say, okay, good. And then he builds up to where he tries to choke him. Yes. But you know, that yeah, that's just a great, great film. I saw that in a drive-in theater in Greenville, South Carolina. Oh, really? Yeah. That's a good drive-in movie. It was good. But you know, Mel Brooks turned 100 years old just recently. I think this past week. Yes, that's right. That's right. That that's probably uh Blazing Saddles is another one that breakthrough, but but I think I'm a big fan of uh Young Frankenstein. That's one of my favorites from him.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

Well, yeah, uh I do like young Frankenstein. I you know, I said I don't like comedies. Yeah, you're you're really showing it here. But I do like that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

That that was uh that was very, very fun movie to watch.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Yeah, it was. And you know, Blazing Saddles, good movie, really a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Uh another Gene Wilder. Yeah, another Gene Wilder. Uh speaking of buddy films, remember we talked about that. Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Oh, yeah.

unknown 47:52

Right?

SPEAKER_01 47:52

Stir crazy. Stir crazy. Silver Streak. Those are a couple of good. I mean, we're talking about some real old, obscure. We're gonna lose your younger audience.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

Well, uh I don't think my audience is that young, number one, but Silver Streak, when they when they go into the the Qx Klan meeting, wasn't that Silver Streak or was that the other one?

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Uh Stir Crazy, I think. Yeah, Silver Streak was, you know, they weren't really Gene Wilder is is on the plane uh on the train and he meets um gosh, the what's the female actress in there? But but Richard Pryor just works on there somehow. Right. So they they jump off and there's somebody trying to kill somebody in a book or something. Um Claiborne, Jill Claiborne, Jill Clayborne. But no, Stir Crazy was where they're they get put in prison and Gene Wilder becomes an expert uh rodeo star.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

Oh, that's okay, that's right. That's right. I remember that. Yeah. Well now I'll tell you why, we're and here we are up against it again. Let's just talk about let me just throw out some names. Okay. Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Oh, yeah, yeah. What do you think of it? Um I'm I'm not uh he's not on the level the guys like we've talked about today. Right. Um, I mean, but he's he's got his uh fit talking, you know, with uh the Predator movies and some of the war movies he's done. But he's not one of my guys that I I have to go watch. Uh because probably a lot of it is more action-based. Yes, yes. I'm trying to think of some films where maybe it wasn't action-based as much, and I can't, nothing comes to mind right now. Kindergarten cop, maybe that was a funny one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

But yeah, that was that was okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Uh but I like the guy, I like him. He's just not my specific genre. Well, what about Stephen Sagal? Oh, yeah, I liked um the one where he's on board the ship and the terrorist, uh Gary Busey. Right, right. Uh try to take over the ship. Uh again, he's the same type, but I enjoyed that one.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

Well, let's switch. Gary Busey, Buddy Hawley.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

Buddy Hawley, yeah. That's a that's a classic. That's a classic. He played that so well. Well, he's a mess now, isn't he? He is. Have you seen him recently? Yeah, yeah. I think if I saw him out in public, I'd be scared. He's not aged well.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

No, and I think that's a shame because in his younger days he did some good roles. Oh, he did, yeah, he did. Uh that Buddy Hawley thing, I thought he nailed it. Can you think of? You got any other actors that might lead us to a I'd like to recommend a couple of movies. Well, you've got a list.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

Well, I got a list. I brought a list. I mean, Tom Hanks, what's your favorite Tom Hanks film? He's he's an iconic actor.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

Tom Hanks, well, uh probably don't have any real favorite. He's not one of my favorite actors.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Apollo 13, Castaway.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

Yeah, no. Uh I think it's yeah, I'm gonna pass on Tom Hanks. He's just not one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

I'm gonna mention a movie that's kind of controversial, but I liked it. It it also won Best Picture in 1999, and it's got a controversial actor in it. The subject matter was controversial. Annette Benning. Yeah. Kevin Spacey. Yeah. Chris Cooper. It is uh American Beauty. But it's power, it's it's a wild one. I I like it's narrated by Kevin Spacey. Right. But it's got so much stuff going on with it. And he's got his wife's having an affair, and he quits his job all of a sudden. He's fired. Then he blacksmails his boss, and he goes to work at a, I guess, like a McDonald's fast food, yeah, and gets uh Camaro and relives his life, starts smoking pot, and it's just it just flies off the rails. It's not like something that's a typical movie you would see.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

This is a spoiler alert. Do you think he kills himself or the neighborhood? I think the neighbor did.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

But again, that's that's how, yeah. Yeah, because I mean the the the the undertone's there. Yeah, I think so. That's the way I want to leave it. Well, I can see because you know remember the neighbor is the father of the And I'm trying to think uh the actor that plays his son is uh in the Yellowstone series now. He plays the son in that, the lawyer, and I'm trying to remember his name. I need to look it up because we don't need to go without saying names. Right. But um it's right on the tip of my tongue. I I can't uh I can't remember, but he's he's great in the film.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

Um see I don't remember him in the film because Spacey played such a man, such a hardcore role.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Oh yeah, it was not uh there's funny scenes in it. Wes Bentley.

SPEAKER_02 52:45

Yeah, Wes Bentley.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

Wes Bentley. Yeah, I'm sorry. And Peter Gallagher was in it. So there was uh Chris Cooper, of course, plays the father, uh Wes Bentley's father that actually I think murders the Kevin Spacey character.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Well he might, and and you like to think maybe that he did because he's trying to avenge his daughter. As we know, there's really no real reason to. Right. Uh you know, everything's all right. But that is a tough movie.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Well, no, no, he's not. That you're missing the point on that. It was he thought his son was gay. It got to that whole subject matter, and it got really weird there. But that was definitely not your run-of-the-mill film. But I, you know, thought it was interesting. Let's change subjects then. Okay. Okay. There was a movie that came out, it's a summer movie that probably most most of you haven't heard of, but it has Sam Rockwell in it. He I love him. I think he's a great actor. If you saw him, you'd know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

No, I I like Sam Rockwell in it.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

And it has Steve Carell in it, and Alice and Janie, and then it also has um um gosh, he was in the sixth sense, the mother in the sixth sense again, these names I can't get them all. But it's called The Way Way Back. And this is a weird, I mean, you probably never saw it. It's one of those movies, like I talked last week about coda and extract, that you just kind of flip it on and say, Let me give it a shot. Yeah. And I really enjoyed this one. It's a sentimental movie again, but it's uh about a single mother raising her son, and he's he's a little awkward and shy because of what he's experienced in life with the separation of his parents and so forth. And she's met this man that's not nice to the son, and that's the Steve Carell character. And they're going to spend the summer at his house at the beach, and there's all kind of wacky characters there. But the son is real withdrawn, and the Steve Carell, he Steve Carell plays a bad guy in the movie. He puts the boy down the whole summer. Well, the boy ends up finding a water park and going to work there. Okay. And he meets Sam Rockwell, who runs the place. He works there too. And he kind of finds a fit for himself, and it turns himself, he turns around. It's therapy for him. And he spends the whole summer there working at the water park. Pretty simple process here, but it's it's a fun film to watch that. And again, it has some good good music in it too. So that's another one I was like. The way way back. The way way back. Maybe we can watch it one day. Yeah. I'll show you. I mean, it's it's I I don't I don't want to say it's cute, but it's it's it's a fun movie and and not like American Beauty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Okay, we've got about at the most 10 minutes. So let's see what we got.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Well, let me see. You're throwing it to me. I'm I'm not gonna take it all. You've got to give me some ideas too. I'm just looking at uh previous movies, uh, some of those little known movies. Juno, did you ever see that one? Juno was a good movie. Juno was a good one. The King's Speech. I'm going back in the 2000s now.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

You know, let's talk about the King's Speech because I would recommend uh to the folks listening that that would be a movie that you would hunt and find and watch because it's underplayed, in my opinion. But it's so good. You really ought to try to find that should be oh, by now it should be free, but you might have to pay a small rental pay.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Well, I'll give you a clue. I I I go to an app or a website called IMDB. Have you ever heard of it? Internet Movie Database. Okay, if you really want to dig into the movies, and I've referenced it a couple of times on here, you can do that, and it'll if you look the movie up, it'll tell you all the actors that are in there. You can click on an actor's name and see all the films they've been in. But it'll also tell you where you can see it. Oh, okay, good. Amazon Prime or Netflix. So I'll look up the King's Speech and we'll see if if it's available. It was in 2010, obviously. It's got a very high rating, and it looks like it's available to buy on Prime Video. I don't think it's free, but you could buy it. Okay. Buy it or rent it there.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

But you know, like we said, let's say you you buy a movie, and typically what I've seen, if you're gonna buy a movie and add it to your collection, the price is typically $24.99. Now it might be a little less. Seldom would it be a little bit more. I've got one more I want to talk to you about in just a second. Think about going to the movie. You go to the movie, ticket is what? What's ticket cost now?

SPEAKER_01 57:13

Well, I mean, they can go up to eight to twelve dollars, maybe it depends on the time of day you're seeing it.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

You and your wife go or your significant other, $24 right there, just to go in, $700 worth of popcorn and soda, and you go in and watch the movie. Well, why not spend your $2499, get the movie loaded, you can watch it anytime you want to, pop your own popcorn, go somewhere here in town, get a batch of wings, sit down, and you can enjoy it, and still be less than if you went to the movie. Yeah, that's the way I look at it.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

But if I'm comfortable, I'm not sharing germs. Right. We're not sharing germs. And and so, you know, I don't want to say anything against the theater owners because they're struggling. But there's always, you know, there's certain movies that come out, and it's not the same to watch them at home. Right. As it is on the big screen.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

Yes, some of them. Well, I went to see uh Top Gun, you know, I told you I liked that Maverick. I wanted to see it on the big screen. It was worth every penny that I spent. I enjoyed every minute of it. Uh, even the hokey ending, I I like that.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

So uh Christopher Nolan has a film coming out, The Odyssey this summer. Epic, you know, the Odyssey story. As as in the Odyssey, the book? Yeah. So that's a film that you probably want to see in the theater.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

Okay. Well, maybe that'll be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

Um, if you're looking for more underrated films that not a lot of people know about, this one is available on Tubi. Now you might want to use the subtitles. It's uh an Irish film, but it's it's called Wild Rose. And it came out, I think, in 2018, but it has that actress named Jessie Buckley in it. She's a singer. She's a singer. She's a troubled country western singer. Very good. Been in jail and has two children that she's somewhat estranged from. Her mother's raising them. And her only dream is to go to Nashville. Yep. And before we're not sure. That is a good movie. Really good movie. I have a hard time understanding it all because it's dialogue. It's English, but it's Irish. Yes. Yes. And it I'm sorry, it's it's Scotland. It's from Scotland, Glasgow.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Oh, okay. Maybe it is.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

I was thinking about it. It's a good one. It's just another one that if you're looking, again, that was one of those that I peeked at, turned it on, and found that it was really good.

SPEAKER_02 59:31

I saw that and I enjoyed it start to finish. You know, sometimes you get in and the start is good, but it starts to drag toward the end. But that keeps you interested.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

Well, the good th what I liked about it was that she does she comes full circle. You know, a lot of us say, well, once I get to Nashville, I'm going to make it, and that's where I'm going to want to be. Yeah. But sometimes the best thing's right in front of you, and you don't even realize it until you get away. Yeah. And that's kind of that was kind of the message in that movie, I thought.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

We are over our time limit. Again. Yeah. Give me, let's find something to end on.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

Well, um, you want to talk about movies that are coming soon? I don't know of many. I mean, the Odyssey we talked about, I'm looking that up. It's uh July 17th.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

Well, I'd give that a try.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Yeah, maybe. Um, I don't know, Jim. How many movies a week do you watch? Do you tend to turn it on and watch?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

You know, I have gotten to where I watch a lot of movies. Now, I'll go from genre to genre. I might watch Westerns one week, and then I might be watching World War II movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

There's a movie coming out to the theater about Jimmy Stewart that I'm kind of interested in. I would watch that. Yeah, it's it's talking about his life. Oh you know, he was a he was a soldier. He was in World War II.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

He was a pilot. He was a pilot and retired from the Air Force. He actually served in Korea too, maybe, didn't he? Um well he was a bomber pilot, I know that. Retired as a brigadier general.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

Um yeah, that's exactly right. I read that. But I I'm trying to find the name of that film and when it comes out so that I could uh tell your audience about it. I think it's sometime this fall, and I don't remember the name of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

I would watch that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:20

No, that's one that I'm looking forward to seeing. I hope it you know sometimes I'll kind of wait and see what the ratings are or rotten tomatoes or whatever before. Yeah, I do that. The day of disclosure, I think the Spielberg film that just came out. What do you think? I don't want to go see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

I'm not I'm not all wound up on that. I don't want to see it. And you just went to see a movie uh didn't like it either.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

Yeah, what was the name of that? Uh it was Ryan Gosling film about it's a it's a book, and I saw all this buzz about it and had a good rating, and I didn't like it, and I can't even remember the name of it now. Well, that's typical. I tried to get you to go with me. Yeah, I didn't want to. It's probably good that you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

Well, I couldn't go, actually. We had something and we couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

I just I I had such high hopes for that film, and it it just did not deliver for me, and I can't remember the name of it now. This is not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:11

Well, let me do this. I'm gonna wrap us up because we're way over now our schedule. But let me say this to the audience if you like listening to this kind of banter, I'll call it, and it has enough information for you, so you can go pick a movie. And if you do, and you get a couple hours worth of enjoyment out of what we've told you, uh email me. Let me know somehow. Let me know that you watched it, uh watched the movie or heard the show. Uh remember it's on the porch with Jim Williams. One word, on the porch with Jim Williams at gmail.com. Please let me know. I have enjoyed all of your emails and your following of the show, and we're just trying to make it better. We're here in the little town of Marion and looking for something to do this summer. So I hope you enjoyed it. Uh, Walt, thanks for coming up. Glad to do it, Jim. I hope I brought something to the show that people can enjoy. Oh, I I I think you did. That's uh uh uh episodes one and two, and maybe we'll do some more episodes because we'll go home and get our notes together and maybe uh have a few more movies for you to listen to. So thanks again, Walt, and listen to me in about a week. Oh, one special thing that's coming up. I'm gonna do a remote broadcast from out at sea. Uh that's coming up sometime in the future. I can't discuss the date with you, but it'll be remote. I'm hoping that's good. We've got some interesting characters that we're gonna talk to. Uh we'll talk to you next week, and please join me here on the port.