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Will Racism Ever End? The War on the Black family ✊🏿
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This episode gets real.
We’re asking the uncomfortable question: will racism ever truly come to an end… or has it just learned how to hide?
I’m joined by @yvngred —an entrepreneur using credit and strategic investing to build real wealth and ownership. But this isn’t just about business… this is about access, systems, and what’s really happening to the Black family behind the scenes.
From financial literacy to generational setbacks, we unpack how racism shows up today in ways people don’t always want to acknowledge—and what it actually takes to break those cycles.
This is a conversation about truth, power, and building something different.
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Welcome back to Bun Talk Podcast with your host Raya, aka Raya Beauty and Fitness. Make sure you guys go show love to my Instagram and my TikTok. Make sure you guys subscribe to the Bun Talk channel and make sure you guys follow us on TikTok because we need all our supporters from Instagram to move over to TikTok. We're trying to get our algorithm up up there, so make sure you guys go show love. But today we have a very, very important topic today. Today is something very, very dear to my heart because it's something that I'm passionate about, which for first off is racism. People say racism is over, but that's not true. Why does it feel like the Black family is still constantly under attack, financially, socially, and systemically? Maybe racism didn't end, maybe it just learned how to hide. But hold that thought because I have a very, very special guest. And if you haven't been hiding under the rock, then you should know who this is. This is young Red, an entrepreneur who's part of a team that leverages personal credit to secure business funding and invest in multifamily properties and other cash-flowing assets. This conversation isn't just about money, it's about access, ownership, and what financial education really means for our community. So without further ado, welcome my friend Red.
SPEAKER_04How you doing? How you doing?
SPEAKER_01It's good, it's good. Nice to see you again. How are you?
SPEAKER_04I'm feeling good. I'm feeling blessed today. Um I'm a little tired, but you know, I'm here.
SPEAKER_01Listen, I feel you, and I really, really appreciate you coming. I know we've been talking about this for weeks, and I really, really, really appreciate you taking the time and being patient and just of course. You've just always been very supportive, and I really, really appreciate you. So I hope I can be the same to you.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Um, make sure you guys show love to Red. Where can they follow you at? Because they need to get in tune.
SPEAKER_04Uh, okay, you guys could follow me on Instagram at Y V N G R E D. Same thing with YouTube. Um, um, that's really uh I'd be on um Instagram and YouTube, really.
SPEAKER_01For real. But he be getting to it and he shares a lot of gems with his supporters and he always vlogging with some lit stuff going on. So if you guys like that type of content too, you can get both the best of both worlds for real.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_01So today we're really into a really deep conversation. But before we get into that, like I said, if y'all hiding under a rock, y'all should know who this is because he's been on my channel before. But let's just get to know you and let the supporters get to know who Red is. So, first of all, like where are you from and how old are you?
SPEAKER_04Okay, I'm from Manchester, Connecticut. And um, I was born and raised in Manchester. Um, and I'm 26 years old. And um living in Manchester, it's not really like it wasn't too bad. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it was like a nice childhood, but like Well, I heard it was the Klan.
SPEAKER_01Oh then you're saying it's the Klan.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, people call it like the Klan because there's a lot of white people. They say like there's racism as you said, like the topic racism. But growing up in Manchester, I never really like witnessed anything.
SPEAKER_01Experienced it, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like racism or nothing.
SPEAKER_01That's good. That's good. So maybe it's just like a false stigma or maybe like a past, you know, issue because sometimes you know, places evolve and as as more different cultures come in and stuff like that. Because I know a lot of Jamaicans and like Africans that live in Manchester, too. So I maybe that's a part of the reason, you know, like mixing cultures.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Um that's dope though. Um so first of all, you're like I said, you're part of a a leveraging company. So what how did where you come from shape the way you see money?
SPEAKER_04Oh man, um how I come from, um, well, my family, like they just love, you know, get to the money and hustle. You know what I mean? So I really um looked at that as like, okay, maybe I wanna do something that wants to make more and more income. You know what I'm saying? And then I've always wanted to like learn about like credit and do like real estate. So like um I mean I'm even in a company called um, I forgot what company I'm in. Um I can't even think of it right now. Yeah, I can't even think of it right now. But I mean I'll it'll come back to him. Yeah, it'll come back to me. But yeah, but like um, I've always wanted to like learn about like all those uh like all those like real estate and like financially. I even took a class. Oh really? Yeah, even though I got a C, but it's okay. I I got a C from it. But um passing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just passing. Yeah, it's still passing, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I thought I was gonna get it beat because like I learned more about like credit like before I even took the class. Oh okay. So because my mom taught me it. But um, but yeah, we just I just like to hustle.
SPEAKER_01That's good. And I feel like that comes a lot like with a lot of Caribbean families, like they I feel like it's instilled in you guys because like you know, at the end of the day, already being black, it's like a it's hard, you know, it's hard to grow and and to build that that income and that leverage. So it's like I feel like Caribbean families, like they definitely see like the value in America. They see how much you can do here. And I feel like sometimes us, like because we're born here, we don't we don't um appreciate it sometimes as much. Like um a lot of opportunities, not to say that it's equal opportunities, but at the same time, I feel like when you come from other countries, you definitely can um you just see more positive than negative, you know what I'm saying? Right. So I feel like that probably just shifts their mindset to a way that they that's why they always got money. I'm not really exactly they always got money, I'm sorry. They always got a house, a business, something.
SPEAKER_04So it's a yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I really admire that. So that's dope. Okay, so you always just have been around people that are thriving and looking looking to ways to succeed and just grow their their capital. Yeah, okay, that's it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. By the way, um, I'm in a business called uh Vinyl Capital. I had to think of it because I forgot the name of it. I forgot to like it.
SPEAKER_01I already know because them business companies they be having those long old fancy names. I don't know, it's the microphone too.
SPEAKER_04I just joined, so I'm still like, you know, think about the name of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel you. But it's listen, it's baby steps, and I'm really proud of you because even when I seen you stepping into this new era, I was like, wow, like Red really doing what he said he was gonna do. He said he was gonna level up this year. You we talked about it and you did it. So I'm really proud of you.
SPEAKER_03You think you appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01Um, so growing up, what did financial stability or the lack of it look like around you? Like, did you ever lack or did you did you feel like I'm good? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04I mean, there's a point of times where like um sometimes growing up, like I do, I did like lack a lot of things. You know what I mean? Sometimes like I just became like lazy at things, you know what I'm saying? Like I always wanted like the way I was, I was like, damn, I want like everything to be easy for me, but it can't, you know what I mean? I have to work hard for it. You know what I mean? Like if you just want if you just sit there and just be lazy and just not do the work and just want easy money, yeah, then it's gonna be like hard for you to like even work, you know what I mean? Because if you want the easy route, it's not gonna, the thing's not gonna happen, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I feel like social media it plays a big role in that because I feel like it makes people think that it's fast money. Like, even looking at your social media sometimes, if I know you in real life, so I know you work hard. But like if I didn't know you in real life, I would think, oh, he just woke up one day and had an opportunity. No, like people don't just drop opportunities in your lap and you have to work for those opportunities and and work to stay in those rooms. So I feel like a lot of times people just they blind themselves to that. They they they kind of gaslight themselves into thinking, like, oh, it's just gonna happen one day. No, it's not just gonna happen one day. That's just not how it works.
SPEAKER_04Right. Sometimes, I mean, I should I wake up and I wish it could be easier for me. Like I could wake up and just make money in my sleep, but that's not how it works. That's not how it works, you know what I mean? You have to wake up and just work, hustle, get to the bag, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01That's real.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, so was entrepreneurship always the plan, or was it like survival turning into strategy?
SPEAKER_04Uh I've always wanted to be your entrepreneur because I I got it from my mom. My mom, um, she had a her own business when I was like really, really young.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what was it?
SPEAKER_04It was um uh she was she was selling like nurse stuff, like nurse clothes. Oh, that's um at East Harford. So I really I I just got like um I got I got inspired by it. You know what I mean? Until this day, she still sells like you know designers and all this stuff to her or clients and all that stuff. So I really like got the um inspiration, you know, from her.
SPEAKER_01That's really dope. And I feel like sometimes I'ma say this, sometimes men don't like taking inspiration from women. And I feel like they they feel like they only can be inspired by men in their life. But I feel like sometimes look around at some of the women that you have in your life. If a woman can do it, if a woman can do it, you can do it too. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's that's the dope way that I like that you said that.
SPEAKER_03No, exactly. Yeah, my mom, she's my biggest inspiration. Yeah, for real, for real.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I'm not my biggest inspiration, but she's one of them, you know. Like, because I feel like at the end of the day, like parenting is hard. So I feel like, you know, if you're able to be a parent and still provide for your kids, like you're already an inspiration to me because it's hard out here, okay? It's very hard.
SPEAKER_04It's very hard out here.
SPEAKER_01Listen, I'm by myself and I don't know how I'm doing it, okay?
SPEAKER_04No, you're doing good though. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01Um, so when we talk about racist racism today, it doesn't always look like it used to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right? So it's quieter, it's more strategic, and a lot of it shows up through money or the lack of access to it. So that brings us into today's topic. Will racism ever end the war on the black family? Like, because to me, it feels like it's a targeted attack. It feels like it's aimed toward the trajectory of people, and I feel like going back to like the 70s and the 60s, I feel like that's when it started, like directing towards the black community and the black family. Particularly taking the the men out the home by you know putting crack into the into the um hood and you know, just pushing um just everybody in separate directions. So dividing the family. And I feel like it starts with that. Like they start off by dividing the family because when you don't have a strong sense of family unit, it's hard for you to know who you are and and what you can do. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like, how do you feel about that? How do you think that has how do you think it started for us?
SPEAKER_04Oh, it really started for us.
SPEAKER_01Um not even slavery, because let's not even go there.
SPEAKER_04But racism, I think, listen, I think like it's not just white people. I'm not gonna say it's just white people. It's just it's just every race, right? And the reason why I think we are always targeted it is because like I think we have something going on for ourselves. Like we do like we have better businesses. I'm not gonna I'm not trying to be say sound cocky, but we have better businesses, better personalities, just better everything. Yeah, I think like with other races, when they see that, they still intimidate it. They have that hatred in them still. You know what I mean? So that's what I believe. You know what I mean? Other people can say, oh no, that's that's not true. But I this is what I believe, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Well, I truly believe it all stems back from us being the original people. Like, that's already an intimidating factor. Like, I truly like I've studied this a lot and I've been getting more into it. Like, we are the original race, the original, you know, skin color. So I feel like when when as time evolved and you know things happened, I feel like the you knowing that subconsciously already intimidates you, and I feel like it takes a lot of um emotional and mental like maturity to to like you know decipher that because like like you said, like not everybody is um, I would say not just white people, but not everybody is prejudiced, but all everybody is racist, and I will say that. So I feel like sometimes they don't realize how they don't know the difference between the two, and that's why it's always a argument about it. But if you really know the difference between the two, then you would know that racism is very much still alive. And just because bigotry is not so out there anymore, like how it was back then, doesn't mean that it's not real. So that's why I mean when I say it's quieter, it's it's it's different because it's not like you know, them walking up to your face calling you a nigga and you know, like and lynching you in the street anymore, like blatantly, you know what I'm saying? But it still it still hits you, like, you know, like when you realize I don't have the same opportunity to get that job. I don't have the same opportunity to be in that room with that business owner, I don't have the same opportunity, you know, to to get the the knowledge of financial literacy. Like in schools and public schools, they do not teach us that, you know, and in our in our communities, they don't teach us anything about money or anything like that, uh credit. And I I never learned anything about that in high school or anything. So I feel like it starts with that. Um so today we're unpacking that. How do you see it showing up in today's world?
SPEAKER_04How do I see it? Like what it comes to like racism. Um I mean today we still see racism everywhere, you know what I mean? Like it's it's a sad truth. Like same thing, like the police brutality still happens.
SPEAKER_01Um like that um where that man that was just killed, the mental mental patient. Like and people were saying, oh, it's he was being a danger to the police, but it's like how many white people are a danger to the police when they're all having mental breakdowns, stuff like that. Do they jump to killing them? No, they they do everything they can to do the opposite, you know?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we we still see all the time, and it still happens. Um, like people still call us the N-word. Um justify it. Yeah, even in businesses, there's still racism in businesses. I'm gonna give you an example. So me, my two my business partners, um, we was looking at houses in Massachusetts. And it's it was a nice neighborhood, you know. I mean, we was looking at, you know, we had a um a lawyer and stuff and everything. So and there there was like um white neighbor neighbors like just looking as crazy.
SPEAKER_01You don't belong. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04We we try to greet them and say, hey, you know, we we look at it. You know what I'm saying? And then they just look at us as disgusted, and then like this was recently too. Wow, yeah. So, you know, it it still happens to this day, you know what I mean? They don't care like if you wear nice clothes or if you have they don't care. If you if you're millionaire, billionaire, people still don't look at you as color, you know what I mean? And yeah, it it just it just sucks, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it really does. And I and I feel like, yeah, like going back to that, like them saying the N-word, like I feel like don't get me wrong, I I can see both sides of the sword sword, like when it comes to other races, not uh not white, um, like Hispanic and stuff like that, I can see how they feel like they're so close to us community-wise, where they feel like they have taken on our culture. But I also feel like it comes to a respect thing. If you're around a black person and a black person was to tell you, I don't like that you're using that word, you should respect that. Now, if you're around another black person and they don't mind, that's fine. But I feel like you should respect our boundaries because at the end of the day, it was used to oppress us. And I feel like it's that's the part that's getting lost in translation. Like a lot of people are arguing about the fact that, oh, well, they're just as hated as the I don't really want to argue about who's hated more because it really doesn't matter to me. My point is the wording and the vocabulary being used. And if if you're you're hurting somebody and they're telling you that they they're being hurt by what you're saying, it doesn't matter what right you think you have to that word, you don't have the right to that word. And I feel like that's the the the misconception that's going on, like in the Hispanic community, like they just feel like they can like and I'm half Hispanics uh Hispanic, so I can say this. Like, I I'm but I'm also black, and I so I feel like I see both sides, and I still feel like black people have a right to want to gatekeep that word. At the end of the day, they made it their own, and and that they have the right to dictate who uses it. And and I just feel like it's a gaslighting thing where they try to make us feel like we're hate, we're hateful because we're we're you know setting those boundaries. You know what I'm saying? Like it's always turns back to us, it always turns back to oh, you it's you, you guys are angry, you guys are this, you guys are hateful. It always turns back to us, no matter what you do or say to us. It's like you just call me a nigga, but I'm hateful because I don't want you to call me nigga. Like, exactly. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it's it's kind of like a gaslight thing. So I feel like a lot in a lot of black people I see are condoning it and and and also shaming other black people for standing on their boundaries. And it's okay if you don't have those boundaries, but like I said, respect other people that have those boundaries. Like, what do you think about that?
SPEAKER_04I mean, I still I mean, I feel the same way, you know what I mean? I don't I don't like what like other race say the underword, like especially white people, because I always think of like yo, why is the white person saying the underword?
SPEAKER_01Like, I feel like you have no reason.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? Because you know why? Because they hang up with lots of black people, they feel the way to think, okay, I hang up with a lot of black people. I can say that in word, I don't care.
SPEAKER_01But it's like But that in itself to me is like racism because you feel like like I don't hang around, I don't hang around like certain type, like that's like me hanging around Muslims and thinking I can just take on their you know, like that's disrespectful. I think you wouldn't do that to someone's religion, you wouldn't do that to someone, you know what I'm saying? So don't do that to my culture and don't do that with something so sensitive, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's the thing that is just getting lost. Like everybody needs to respect everyone's boundaries, and at the end of the day, that's that's the issue. Black people's boundaries are never respected. It's always we're doing too much, we're asking for too much when we've never had enough. So I don't know where it comes from that we're just taking and we're just wanting it all. Like, we still don't have what we what we deserve and what we need, like you know, so that's how I really look at it.
SPEAKER_04But let me ask you this. I know you asked me a question, but you ask you a question, right? Um, who do you think that gets a lot of racism? You think the black community or the Hispanic community?
SPEAKER_01Like I said, I do not like to compare hatred.
SPEAKER_04But but let's say.
SPEAKER_01But if I was gonna keep it a whole stigity stack, because you know this is blunt talk and I don't give a fuck, you know, black people, like this shouldn't even be a question. Black people are still to this day, like, like, don't get me wrong, Hispanics still get discriminated against, but let's just say, for example, like immigrants that come here, right? They get more than we do.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01They get they get more, and not even just uh Hispanic immigrants, all immigrants. They anybody who comes from another country, they get more benefits than us black Americans. So I feel like that in itself is is a reason why like we feel like we we're still more oppressed. Because then they we're American citizens who who slay who were slave enslaved on this land that we that we own, you know what I'm saying? Like we created, we built, you know what I'm saying, and we were enslaved on it. And then at the same time, we still don't get the benefits that other people get that are coming from another country. And then don't get me wrong, I fuck ice, like let's just say that. Because I don't want y'all to think I'm fuck ice on myself. But I'm just saying, like, it's it's stuff like that that makes me feel like, how do y'all not see, like, we we like not saying immigrants didn't also help, because immigrants also help build America? We're not knocking that, but again, like I'm saying, how would you feel? That's like me building my house from the ground up, and then someone dictating everything I do in my house, how I eat in my house, how I provide for my family, how I do that. Is racism. That is control. That is using your systemic power to belittle people, and and I feel like that's what they're not seeing. Like, how how would you feel if you have all acts you have it? Looks like you have all access to everything, but you really don't.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01It's like a it's a it's a like a hidden um it's it's a hidden hatred. It's a hidden hatred, and you feel it every day. You feel it every day you wake up and go to work, you feel it every day you go and you try to get alone, you feel it every day that you want to open up a new credit card, you feel it every time. So it's like I don't want to argue about that shit. Don't argue with me about that shit because you're gonna be mad. Don't argue with me. I'm just saying that's just what it is to me, and and I respect everybody's views and and whatever, but respect mine and respect my boundaries. Don't if I tell you don't call me nigga, you call me nigga, you're getting punched. I'm just telling you that right now. Exactly. I'm not arguing about the shit. So I see it because I don't know if you see like the baddie shit going on with Gretchen and all this stuff.
SPEAKER_03Like, I don't watch that.
SPEAKER_01But I'm saying that's where this topic has been going. Because you know, people very low vibrational, so they don't really know talk about racism until unless it's like something drama-based or whatever. So if y'all know, y'all know Gretchen from Baddie's, she's uh a Hispanic um woman. Yeah, she looks very white, but she is Hispanic.
SPEAKER_04Um and uh I'm sorry to cut you off. Isn't that the one that's dating the CEO?
SPEAKER_01No, no?
SPEAKER_04Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01She um she feels like she's entitled to say the word nigga because her baby father is black and she has a black child. And I feel like that's an even more of a reason for you to have respect for the culture because you want your son to be able to recognize when somebody is disrespecting his boundaries. At the end of the day, how would you feel if your son looked at you and said, Mom, you look like a white woman and it offends me when you say nigga? Would you just tell him, Oh, well, I had you, so I can say what I want.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know what I'm saying? That's what it kind of gives to me. And when y'all make those type of excuses, like, I don't give a fuck. I would have back, I would have been harassed every day, and y'all couldn't tell me shit about it. So I really don't give a fuck. Like, if I was to tell you in your face that what you're saying to me is offensive and you tell me, you don't give a fuck, basically, because you you you done hopped on some black dick, I would really slap the shit out you. But I'm just saying, like, so to me, that is just like, and I feel like that's what a lot of Hispanic women do. Like, they they fuck black men so they think that they are black, and that's not the case because then they if you're gonna if you're gonna claim black, claim black all the time, don't claim back when it's beneficial. You gotta claim your Hispanic culture all day long until it's time to say nigga. Now it now you're black. Now you're now you're Afro-Latina. Now you're Afro-Latina, like girl, bye. I don't want to hear that shit.
SPEAKER_04Like, no, that's what they get that shit so confused. Like, just because you're fucking with a black man, like you gotta say it, like, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I I just I don't know.
SPEAKER_04You gotta be yourself, you know?
SPEAKER_01Just be yourself, and and then and that's the thing though, she's saying that she's being herself because in her in her community, like I guess like she is raised around a lot of black people, and you know, like I'm sure you know in the hood there's a lot of Spanish people that say that. But again, my point is this I'm not saying that she is a racist person for saying that, because again, I know that maybe that's not her intent, but what's racist about it is the fact that you do not care about the fact that you are offending people, and it's like you're turning yourself into the victim by saying they're bullying me, they're they're booing me on stage, and but that's because you didn't even acknowledge the hurt that you caused. You could have said, Oh my god, I've always, you know, just been raised saying that, you know, people in my community are not offended by it, so I did not think anybody on this cast would be offended by it. Like, that's how you go about it as a grown ass woman. But when you are immature, I feel like you you internalize everything and you don't see the bigger picture. And that just shows me that you're you're ignorant to the fact because anybody with knowledge knows that words are very powerful. And then they, if I'm telling you not to say it, don't say it. And that's just what it is.
SPEAKER_03So that's just how I feel about it. Yep, that's a fact. Yeah, no, she's speaking facts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Speaking real facts.
SPEAKER_01Um so how does credit access or misinformation about credit play into generational setbacks? How do you think that affects you? Like not knowing about credit, not knowing where to go, or like how important it is. Because I know that's what put me in debt at a young age, is not knowing how important credit is. So how do you think that affects us?
SPEAKER_04Um, I mean, it could affect like many, many things. Like, for example, you're trying to like buy a house, you know what I mean? If you have like if you're in debt of something, like your credit score is always gonna go negative or even yeah, yeah. So it's always like important to always make sure your credit is always good, always like, or you know, get your credit fix or anything, you know what I mean? Because if you be in debt for just one thing, if you have like something that you owe that you don't even know about, it's gonna fuck your shit up like bad. You know what I mean? And I I learned that at a young age. I think I like around like high school. And I think I I even had like a I only got I only got a bad credit card back then. I had a debit card.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_04But I learned about like, you know, the things of you know, credit and how how much it affects everything. So like um, yeah, it just it just affects a lot of shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know what I mean? I wish people told me about like credit cards, like how to choose the right one, um, or how like choosing the wrong one could really fuck your credit up because at the end of the day, like a credit card is supposed to help you. So I feel like um when you get the wrong one at like high APR or whatever, it's like you end up like kind of putting yourself in a negative position than a positive one. Or on top of that, like if you don't know how to use it correctly, then you're kind of using it and you're not even doing what you want to do with it because no one's taught you exactly how to use it to in a way to benefit you. Yeah, um, and then on top of that, I feel like, like you said about the credit um thing, like when you mess up with your credit, I wish somebody told me how long like it takes for that to come off your credit without you paying someone or like you know, doing all this hard work to get it off your credit. So I feel like those are things that should be taught in school. Like that should be like a main subject is financial literacy in all children's lives because it's very important. It's one of the main factors when it comes to longevity and just growing and and and self-preservation. Like, how are you gonna how how is it how are you gonna preserve your life and then also grow from that if you don't know you know how to capital off your what you have right now, you know?
SPEAKER_04So and it's also crazy because when when people have like when the first time like they have a credit card, right? They just okay, they have a credit card, I can spend everything. Exactly. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01They don't see it.
SPEAKER_04But they they don't know, like, yo, the amount of money that you spend, you have to pay that shit right back, yeah before the due date. You know what I'm saying? If you don't pay on time, then your credit score is gonna be.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Like, just because okay, you see your credit card. You just see the money and you're like, oh yeah, you could buy like a thousand dollars as shoes, and then when you see the credit limit, it's oh my god, I gotta pay this much. If you don't pay it back, then it's gonna fuck everything up. You know what I mean? And then like the bank is gonna look at you, hey man, you just spending money just as cool.
SPEAKER_01I learned that when I um when I got my first credit card closed on me, like that messed up my credit so bad. Like, so bad. And like, and I was so like shocked because it was only like$300.
SPEAKER_04And it's like fucked you up, right?
SPEAKER_01And I'm like,$300 has me like almost F$100. Like what the fuck? Like, I'm like, I was like, yo, and it's crazy because it it was just it was life, life-changing for me because they really opened my eyes to like, damn, you really, you're really ignorant to things, you don't know anything really, you don't know anything about life, and that's what taught me to like be teachable and to look for education, search for education because obviously they're not gonna give it to us.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Um Do you think lack of financial literacy is accidental or intentional? You think they purposely take it out of um our like schools and things like that, or do you think it's it's accidental? Like they just we skip that by accident.
SPEAKER_04Or like like in high school or just in general?
SPEAKER_01No, like in general. So like um, you know, school curriculum, stuff like that, like they choose what they want to teach us. So do you feel like it was intentional to leave that out, or do you feel like um it's more of an accidental, like that's a good question.
SPEAKER_04I think if they leave it out, I think it's because they don't want the students to like really know about the credit. Or or they want they want them to like work hard for it. You know what I mean? They don't want to like I I mean some teachers do be gatekeeping about what to cheat, you feel me?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04Because they don't want like so sometimes they be hating sometimes. You know what I mean? I I see it, you know, they don't want to teach the kids like what they want to know because they think that okay, they won't get too successful of that, you know what I mean? So they just want the students or people in general to um learn on their own. You know what I mean? And I even knew about credit way before I even took the class. So it's like Wow. Yeah, so it's like um I I do I do believe that they'd be leaving some parts out for the people, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I agree. I don't know why though, because I feel like you need to teach everybody just everything about financial literacy, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I feel like that just would make America even better. Like I feel like if everybody had that um knowledge, we can just do nothing but thrive. I feel like there's like people have this thing that I don't know if they like I think it's again an intimidation thing where they think if we have the knowledge, we're gonna excel them, and you know what I'm saying? But I feel like that's just a horrible mindset to have. Like the world should be always going up and doing better. And I feel like we're the majority, like we're the minority, but we're the majority. Yeah, no, we don't have to be able to do that. So if we're the majority, why don't you want us to be successful? You know what I'm saying? Like, we're the majority of America, you know what I'm saying? There's so many black people in America, so many of um black black uh African descent. So, like, why wouldn't you want us to thrive? Like, we're we're running your your country, literally. Like, so let's talk about it.
SPEAKER_04Um they don't know, they don't know, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01They don't know about that. But I also feel like when it comes to that, like uh gatekeeping, like I didn't even realize, like it's crazy looking back in high school. I had a teacher named Mr. Williams. He was Pan-African. I didn't even know what that was at the time. But looking back, that man was so woke, and that was the only teacher that told us the motherfucking truth. When I say the truth, the motherfucking truth, shout out to Mr. Williams. And y'all need to tell me where the fuck he's at now because God bless his soul. But I remember thinking Mr. Williams was such an asshole. But he was so honest and direct and truthful with us about everything. When it comes to history, everything he was I believe he was our history teacher, and he also taught another another subject, but he also ran um, I think a uh a black like um like an after-school program type thing um uh with a lot of kids, and he was Pan-African, and I didn't even know what that was back then. But like now that I'm aware of what it is, and I'm and like I said, I'm more you know, I've educated myself on a lot, I see how powerful it was what he was doing. Because at a time where there was no other teachers doing what he was doing, he put his job on the line. Because think about it, if they if everybody wants to trap these children in a mindset that they're unable to succeed, and you have one teacher fighting for all of us, yeah, that takes courage. That takes good is making me fucking emotional. That it that takes real courage, like in and like pride to do that and and not care about what happens to you. You know what I'm saying? Like he could have lost his job, he could have lost his everything just being truthful with us. Like, we would read something in the textbook and he'll be like, that's not how that happened. And he would tell us how it happened. If I had never like experienced that, like I would have nothing to go back to in reference, like I would have thought, like, you know, like just I don't know, it was it's just very uh mind-opening to like see that even back then there are there were woke black people, like you know what I'm saying? It just wasn't so oh yeah, popular to be woke, right? That makes sense, you know. It was more like the slave mindset, you know? And and I feel like that was just really courageous to think of. So if anybody knows where Mr. Williams is at, please let me know because I would be gonna shout him out. I low-key want to get him on the podcast. No, you shouldn't. Please, please, please let me know if y'all know where Mr. Williams is at.
SPEAKER_03No, you should not. That'd be a good episode.
SPEAKER_01No, literally, like uh love him. How does investing multifamily properties impact not just individuals but communities? So I know that's what what you do now, like you're investing into properties. Like, how do you think that's gonna benefit people? Because I see that you're also offering like mentorship and like bringing people on. So, how do you think that's gonna benefit the community?
SPEAKER_04I think um it honestly like help people like realize um everything that what we do and everything, and um I mean plus like I mean people could like look at that and then just they want to do um you know real estate and then like um you know, like sell like multi-family homes and stuff and you know just get into the program or like learn about it, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Create generation.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, create generation, yeah, create generation. Um yeah, I just think like what we do, right, is um our goal is like to like find or get like multiple like multiple multi-family homes and find the people like oh okay, like if they want to find a house just like that, um we like you know get some like some deals and stuff, whatever it is. And uh but the main thing is like we we just want people to like to learn about the things that we do and just like help people and everything.
SPEAKER_01And um so your goal is really mentorship and to really like bring on other people and educate.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we also help people like um with people like who wants to learn. We'll we definitely like help them out, like you know, if they ask have questions, um, we just answer them and then we and then the main thing is we help people. We don't have we don't let people um figure out on their own. You know what I mean? Because that'd be fucked up for us to like okay, we tell him then he could just do it on their own. Nah.
SPEAKER_01Like you walk them through it and you really help them if they along the way.
SPEAKER_04If they're like, you know, they're brand new to it and like they they need help with something, we always there for them. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01So that's big because I feel like a lot of um, like there is a lot of people like seeking like you know to help people and mentor people, but I feel like that's a big part of it. Like people forget that you have to, you know, go along with them along the way. Like they're new to this, so they will get um discouraged if they're if they don't feel supported, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's a a big part of mentorship is staying along their side along the way and and not getting um not just throwing the information at them with no with no you know sense of support because I know a lot of people have done that to me, and that's when I've got discouraged because it's like I kind of feel dumb and I don't feel like I know what I'm doing, and then I and then they don't make me feel comfortable to ask questions. So I feel like that is really big, and I'm really thankful that you're doing that. And you need to link up with me because we were supposed to do that, and I think I need to get my my my financial lucid right, and I need to build my generational wealth, and I need to buy me a home, and I need to do a lot of things. So get on red ass in the comments because he's supposed to be helping me first before he helped any of y'all. So I got to do that.
SPEAKER_04We got we got a lot of people that we need to help, you know, I want all y'all to get the help really, really, really I know for sure.
SPEAKER_01Um, but yeah, I feel like overall you will impact individuals, like you said, but I feel like community-wise, just doing what you're doing, like people seeing you go from where you were at to what you're doing now is already affecting the community. Like you don't know how many people watch you that probably are inspired by the fact that you even stepping are in are in those rooms, you know what I'm saying? Like there's so many little black boys that's probably looking at you, like I didn't even think I could be in that room. I don't even think that somebody like that looks like him would be there, you know what I'm saying? So that just in itself is life-changing, and and you just deserve your flowers. I really, really appreciate you for being courageous. Like, literally, um, so I want to go into like the healing and survival versus survival mode of this. So, how do we balance building wealth while still addressing trauma? Because I feel like that's a big thing, and that's why I feel like when we do step into those rooms, we end up messing it up because we still have that trauma. So, how do we, when we step into that room, how when you step into that room, how do you because I know you face some adversity and some trauma, like you said, you still kind of face some racism and stuff like that um in the field that you're in. So, how do you navigate that?
SPEAKER_04Oh man, um, the way how I deal with trauma, um I mean it I mean, people still have trauma nowadays, you know what I mean, but they still don't know how to deal with it. But the way how I do it is like me, um I just like go to my room sometimes, just think about like, you know, the positivity. You know what I mean? And I know like the trauma sometimes like it'll come back to my to my head and stuff. But sometimes, like, you know, I just talk to somebody who I trust, you know, who I who I love, you know, especially my mom and stuff. And I just deactivate every every social media that I have because it's always a distraction. Like if you want like to be better, you want that trauma to go away. Like you need to get rid of the the distractions out of everything, you know what I mean? Um, it it's really hard to deal with, like, you know, because I've been depressed like many times. And um I just like to talk to somebody who I love the most because you know sometimes I hate being alone sometimes. Yeah, you know, especially like if you're like by yourself, you don't talk to nobody that who truly loves you. I mean, it's gonna be really hard to get out of that dark place, you know what I mean? So I mean it's really hard to like um even like um you like you say that you're happy, but you're not happy, you know what I mean? Like you you can smile somebody in the face, but they don't know that what you're going through. You know? And every time, like I always tell people, hey, um, you're not alone. You're not alone, don't stay in that dark place for long. Because you know, God, God needs you, everybody needs you to be better. You know what I mean? Always like you know, if you believe in God, you know, always pray to always pray to Him, you know what I mean? Because depression is real. Like mental health is very, very real, especially with us black men.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_04Like, and that's the thing with us black men, we don't like to talk about what we go through in life because we be afraid that people is gonna judge us. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's why like us black men, we always gotta stay strong for our for our close ones, like so people don't see us like okay, we're going through some things, you know. And I feel like um we us as black men especially should, you know, it's not it it's okay to cry, it's okay, like talk to your your feelings to somebody, you know what I mean? Even myself, like always start like, okay, even though I was going through some things, um I feel okay, I'm gonna be okay. Um I'm I gotta stay strong, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But sometimes, you know, it's it's okay to, you know, break down. Just to let it let it all out, you know what I mean? Like you can't just hold that in because it's gonna like make you down even more if you hold it in, you know what I mean? So it's always a point to like talk to somebody who you who you love, who you, you know.
SPEAKER_01And who knows loves you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, who loves you, right surround yourself with love.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes I you love people and you can't see that they don't love you, you know what I'm saying? So really go based off energy and who really does make you feel loved. Because people say that word a lot, but yeah, you have to feel it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, this listen, always like um cut off the people who don't fuck with you like that, who don't love you like that, you know what I mean? Because those are fake people, you know what I mean? If they love you for real, love you for who you are, they'll check up on you, they'll make sure that you're good. They do everything in their power to make sure that you're okay. You know what I mean? If the fake people just say, okay, you know, you you're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine.
SPEAKER_01If they want you smiling all the time, they don't really want to address the negatives.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they wanna they want to be there for you when you're down. You know what I mean? When you're in a dark place, you don't want to get out of it. Let them be the people to bring you out of that dark place, or even God, you know what I mean? You give me chess.
SPEAKER_01Can I give you a hug? My friend in real life, y'all. Oh no, real talk though. I hope you know you could always come to me about anything because I know I can come to you and you've always been there for me. So but yeah, black men don't be afraid to like show your emotions. And I feel like a lot of black women are starting to realize too that we we have to be accepting of that and and and be more open because um for a long time we were we were so strong-hearted that we we couldn't open up our our hearts to you guys. And I feel like that just comes from again our trauma and you know, racism and what they did to the black family. And I feel like that's that's why we're talking about this because we want to bring back the love and and we want to bring back the the community. Like we want to bring back the black family. We want not just romantically, but you know, the brothers and the sisters to be more aligned, you know. Like I really wish that we all can just have more empathy for each other. And I and I I hope you know that I have so much empathy for you and every black man because you guys do face a lot every single day, and women are not the only ones that go through it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So that that's real.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Um, I would say how I um how I address my trauma and process it is being honest with myself about how I feel. Because I feel like sometimes we don't we don't be real with ourselves when we are offended or when we are hurt by something. You know, we we we tend to, like you said, be strong. Like we're we we are so resilient, we're such a resilient people that we that's our strength, but it's also our weakness because we forget that it's okay to be human. Like we have feelings, we have we have emotions, and sometimes I do get sad looking at the world the way it is, and it makes me very emotional. So I feel like being honest with yourself about how much it does affect you is is real because seeing seeing your people go through those type of struggles will will break you down. It will. So I feel like just be honest with yourself and and it hurts. It does hurt. You doesn't have you don't have to be all strong all the time. Oh, white people don't affect me, white people don't it hurts sometimes, it does.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Uh what does protecting the black family actually look like in 2026?
SPEAKER_04Protecting the black family in 2026. What does it really look like? Um just just everything really because we still live in a evil world, you know what I mean? Um the the black family uh I I say like mostly the black family protects their family. I would say like probably like um just like criticism. Just criticism. The way you speak. Yeah, the way you speak, like because people they won't say a lot of hurtful things to like, let's say like um if you have a kid, you know, you won't you don't want nobody to dislike your kid or anything.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Especially like, and then like I would say like the media too. The media is like really fucked up uh place where like you know anything could happen to your family. So you you just want to just protect um your family just 24-7. You know what I mean? I feel like every, not just black, but just every every family should just protect one another, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_04Um I mean I've of course you know I'm the oldest in the family, so I gotta protect my family at all costs, you know, from just from everything, from people, like just everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I feel like what you just said was real. Like words are words are very, very strong, and I feel like people don't don't realize that. Um how you speak to your your black community. Um, I see a lot of black people referring to themselves as Negroes, like in jokes, and then like and I just feel like they don't realize the subconscious things that they're doing. Like, you know, like the way y'all talk the way you talk to yourself, the way you talk to people that look like you, it all comes back to self-hatred. Like if if you if you if you speak to yourself like a queen, like a king, you're gonna feel like that. But if you speak to yourself, speak about yourself or about your people in a negative way or you allow others to do so, that all stems back to how you feel about yourself and your people. And I feel like we have to bring back being black and proud. And what that means is actually instilling positive um attributes. So like, let's stop promoting the negativity. You know what I'm saying? Like, and and and like, for example, like the way we teach our sons and our daughters to communicate and to live life. Like, I say this all the time, you're your children's first role model. You need to teach them how to address people, how to address their concerns, their frustrations. You need to teach them how to how to properly just communicate with humans because sometimes I know me for one, I used to just always jump to anger. I thought the only emotion I ever felt was anger. Anytime something made me upset or sad, I jumped to anger, defense mode. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm saying things that I don't mean out of hurt because I don't know and I don't have the tools to express like what you just said here made me feel used. What you just said here made me feel unwanted. What you just said here made me feel not valued. You know what I'm saying? Instead, I jumped to feeling anger instead of when really I'm sad or really I'm hurt or really I'm you know what I'm saying? So I feel like just teaching your children at a young age emotional um vulnerabil vulnerability, um, teaching them emotional intelligence uh is a big thing um in the black community. I feel like I see a lot, a lot of us struggling with that even at grown um ages, and it's just it takes uh you looking inward and self accountability. So So a big thing for me is uh holding yourself accountable, um, holding the people around you accountable, uh, even if they look like you, because uh that's another thing. I feel like uh another thing that they think is being proud black is uh basically just condoning everything you do because you're black. And I feel like that's not um that's not a benefit to our race at all. I feel like in order for us to thrive, we have to be able to stick together, you know. Yeah, stick together. And by sticking together, you should be able to want your your fellow community members to be living at their highest vibration. You know what I'm saying? So if I see, if I ever saw you spiraling in a in a in a negative way, I see I just I see you doing so good now. If I ever see you making a bad decision, I'm never just gonna watch you crumble. You know what I'm saying? I'm never gonna condone your um demise. So I feel like that's sometimes we have to we have to just be honest with our people that we love. And and and honesty is love. So be honest with the people that you love about um Yeah, be honest with everyone. Everything, yeah. Um, and also uh protecting the black family in 2026. Um sorry, this is very emotional for me. I'm trying to like hold it together. Uh protecting the black family to me is also being mindful of um when and who you create children with. Um I'm gonna speak on this. This is a very controversial topic, but this is something I also feel strongly about. Um, I don't judge anybody for doing different, but at the same time, I I I feel strongly about this. I will not procreate with any other race other than black just because I feel like we're at a time where we need to show our black women and our black men how much we value them and and how much uh we see the value. Like I feel like sometimes when we when you go outside your race, you're you're unknowingly sending a message that you don't want to be a part of your own community or you want to branch out. And I feel like the black women especially need that um sense of security, that sense of love and safety from the black man again. And I feel like we don't have that anymore because they are constantly telling us they'd rather be with a Latino, they'd rather be with a white girl. And and that's very hurtful to your your black mother, your black sister, you know? Yeah. Uh whether they admit it or not.
SPEAKER_04Um when I see, when we see we said that, right? I see like not a lot, but like some us like black men, we see it like, okay, um, let's say the preference is like white or Latino or something else, right? They are willing to go and disrespect their own race just because they like white girls or or Latinos or anything, you feel me? And I'm just looking at, I'm like, hmm, like why are you like disrespecting a black woman for if you if if you say like, okay, that's not black women's not your type, then okay, that's fine. But you're not gonna go and say here and say, oh, I don't like you calling them. Because you're loud and oh black black bitches and that, like I just looking at them like, damn, like you don't gotta say all that, you know what I mean? Like, you don't gotta disrespect your your kind, you know what I'm saying? Like, mind you, your mom is black.
SPEAKER_01You come from black.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? And let's say, like, okay, the black man has daughters, their daughters are black. Why you why you want to disrespect a black woman?
SPEAKER_01Like, come on, like you're telling your daughter that she's not valuable.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're basically like a sellout where you just You're a fucking coon. Yeah, exactly. That's the fuck you are. And I just I just don't like respect people like that because it's like you're just disrespecting your own kind, you're disrespecting the the community. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Over like, okay, like you don't like um black women, that's fine. Yeah, you don't got to, but you don't gotta see all these disrespectful disrespectful words because And I wouldn't even use those wordings like I don't like black women.
SPEAKER_01I would say I prefer this type of woman. Uh like for example, like I know me personally, I prefer dark-skinned men. Like, because you can be black and light-skinned, so like I just prefer dark-skinned men. That doesn't make me dislike, like, hate light-skinned men, but I just prefer dark-skinned men. So I would never though, I would never blatantly be like, I am never fucking with a light-skinned black man. They are so pussy. I'm not gonna say nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, like that is very harmful to people's mental health. Um, and that is honestly putting people in a box and they've done that to us for so long that I would never do it to somebody else. But I will say, I want me a black man. And I and I don't think that makes you any any, I feel like that makes you prideful of who you are by wanting to just extend your legacy with the people that you come from. Like that shows how much you take pride in your culture. And I feel like any other culture or religion or anything that chooses that way, like Jewish people, you're not allowed to marry outside of your religion. Do they make that a negative stigma? No, that's just we are so prideful in what we believe in that we want to share that with people that think the same. That does not make mean hateful to any other group of people. So I feel like it's not what you do, it's how you word it. And I feel like that the way you guys word it shows me how much self-hatred you are living in because that it's uncalled for. You could have said what you said without doubting a black woman or a black man. So I feel like um that just shows you the devil done got you. But um, you gotta work on that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Um, so before we wrap, what's one thing you want black families listening right now to understand about power, money, and legacy?
SPEAKER_02That's a good question. I gotta think of sometime.
SPEAKER_01Go ahead, take your time.
SPEAKER_04Always just be true to yourself and to your family. You know, always like um just be grateful for everything, you know what I mean? Um especially like where you have kids, you know, make sure you always always be a leader for your kids, you know what I mean? That don't ever be a follower to nobody. And um, you know, this is we live in an America, we live in an evil world we live in, you know what I mean? And I feel like with us black people, we need to always stick together. Yeah, no matter what. You know what I mean? Um even if it's like a disagreement or anything, always come together and be like, okay, you know, we we good, you know what I mean? And you know, there's families out there who don't um speak to their own kids or just you know to themselves. And I feel like, you know, it's always um it's always important to always come together, yeah. And always like bring back that bond.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And just just for everything, you know what I mean? And always like don't let the money change you at all. You know what I mean? Don't especially with black people, because black people I see a lot of people they get into them rooms and they start switching up. They start switching up, you know what I mean? And never because I know like money is always about power and stuff, but don't let that power get to you. Yes, because of the green, you know what I mean? And you know, just always be true to yourself. You know, as if you be true to yourself, you're gonna be good. You know? And there's community, the community needs a leader, and then just be that you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_01My advice to you guys would be when it comes to legacy, pour into it. Um the next generation is more important than you think because at the end of the day they they set the trajectory of what's gonna go on in the future. So if you want the future to be different, you have to start by instilling your children with different values and morals and making sure they know what you want them to project out into the world and make sure that they're good people overall. Um when it comes to the power and the money. I just said something about this um on Facebook. A lot of people think that money is their purpose of life, uh, to make the most money. That is not your purpose. God has given everybody a purpose, and I promise you it has nothing to do with money. So make sure you find your purpose that is aside from money, and hopefully you can make money doing what you are sent here to do. Um yeah, this was such a great conversation, and I really do appreciate you even doing this with me because I know it is very controversial and people don't want to hear about it, but at the end of the day, you need to hear about it. It's very, very real, and it's just important to me in my heart. So I just want to thank you again. Um A lot of people want to pretend we're just past this conversation, but avoiding avoiding it doesn't make it disappear. If racism has evolved, then so does the way we fight it. If this conversation challenged you, share something real with you or made you uncomfortable in a good way, share this episode, okay? Um before we end, I do want to do my segment uh watched and read. So I like to ask my guests what you watched or what you read this week.
SPEAKER_04Um, if you want to share um, well, I didn't read anything this week, but I'm gonna get y'all ass. But you know, um I read like um this article about you know power. You know what I mean? And um you know, power is very important um word to use, but if you're like you shouldn't let power change who you really are. Yeah, personality for your personality, you know what I mean? Like you know how um like celebrities, like okay, this big celebrity, they they the people say, oh, he has so much power, and then with when when when they hear that, they just think okay, I could do whatever I want. And you shouldn't let that get to you, you know what I mean? Especially with, you know, don't let nobody tell you, oh okay, you can do whatever you want. Don't let the power because if you let it if you letting the power get to you, that means you're letting the devil get to you. Yes. You know what I mean? And it's always like, you know, just point just to be you. Just don't change for nobody, you know what I mean? And I'd rather have respect than than power. You know what I mean? Like people, people see, okay, I don't want to have respect, I want to have power. Nah. I'd rather have respect than power. Trump has power. He has no respect. Trump, right, like he doesn't respect nobody. He just has like nobody respect him. Like, look, like, like, for example, like look what he's doing right now with the whole like Iran and you know, with the whole war and shit, because he's doing that because he has power.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_04You know, he's letting that shit get to him, he's letting that ego get to him. But you don't want to be that person. Yeah. You rather just, you know, have respect more than anything. You know what I mean? If you have respect, I'm telling you, everybody's gonna, you know, fuck with you as a person.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Because when you give respect, people want to riciprocate that.
SPEAKER_03So that's true.
SPEAKER_01Um, what I anything you watched this week? Did you watch anything interesting?
SPEAKER_02Uh I watched power.
SPEAKER_01Oh, how was it? I have to get back to that, but I I fell off of power because no, because the thing is everybody like kind of tells everything every week. So it's like I I I get discouraged from when I watch it because every time I'm about to watch it, it's like I know everything that fucking happened and that shit is. No, I know it's good, but it's like they ruin it. Like everybody ruins it every week. Like, I hate their fan base because they just all jump on Facebook as they're watching it. Like, they don't even wait till the episode's done. They just as they're watching it.
SPEAKER_04That's how like that's how you know it's rather good.
SPEAKER_01If this is I know the whole episode, like I'm good. Like I know everything that they I know who died, I know who's still alive, I know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but no, they do, they do spoil it a lot.
SPEAKER_01Can y'all just chill? Like, let me just like chill.
SPEAKER_04No, but it shows you that they like the show is just mad interesting.
SPEAKER_01Like, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? But I know I get a lot of your point. No, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Because when I first started watching, I'm like, this shit is dope. Like, 50 be knowing what the fuck he's doing. Like, I cause the 50 a troll and shit, but like he nah, yeah. He's a businessman for sure, because he knows his stuff.
SPEAKER_04And also he I that's where I learned my business aspects from from him as well.
SPEAKER_01Wow, see, that's a great person to learn from because everybody that I've seen like talk about 50 Cent, they say that he is so knowledgeable and that he has taught them a lot. So definitely get into what 50 Cent be doing. Um I'm trying to think if I watched anything this week. Um, I haven't really watched anything educational. Actually, no, I'm lying. I watched, I feel like I watched a podcast about ooh, you could probably help me with this because you, you, you, um, you're um from another um country, so I want to I'm uh get your perspective on this. I was watching a podcast of these guys, they were talking to, I believe, I believe they were African. I think they were African. They were either African or Jamaican, but they were one of the two. Um, and they were talking, they she was saying some really ignorant stuff, like um uh black people are lazy and that they have all these opportunities in America, and we come here and we do way better than them, and da-da-da-da-da. Like, she was just talking crazy, and I really want to fight, I ain't gonna cap. But um how do you feel about that? Do you feel like that's like a real thing? Like, do you feel like it's based on like do you feel like they they just know more, whatever? Like, I do feel like they they take more uh appreciation for the assets that we have when they come over here. But do you think that they realize that they do get more benefits and more um opportunities to those benefits when they come here? Like, I don't think they realize that black American Americans don't automatically get those privileges that they get when they come over here.
SPEAKER_04Um, so this was uh an African podcast?
SPEAKER_01It was a black black people like like a black person like me. They were they were having a podcast and they had two guests that were African. Oh, it's like he started like just rambling about how black people are lazy.
SPEAKER_04Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, you're fine, you're fine. Oh, so so okay, so they was- She basically just started rambling about like black people being lazy and that when they come over here, they do better way better than us, and that they're basically smarter than us.
SPEAKER_04You see, with that, listen, yeah, listen, I think very degrading. It was very rude to say stuff like that is very arrogant, and um, I don't think okay, I get what some Africans they say they say that they're better, they know better, they're smart, doesn't that, but it doesn't make anything better at all. Like, I feel like you know, they just think okay, like, okay, we Africans, like, um, we're better than everybody.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Which is not, that's not true. I feel like nobody's not better than nobody, you know what I mean? And then as Africans, when they see like the black Americans, they think like, okay, they just did nothing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that's nothing. She said we have no culture. She said black Americans have no culture. Mind you, the bitches wear let me shut up. Let me shut up. Let me shut up.
SPEAKER_04See, that's a problem.
SPEAKER_01See, that's this is why y'all come here and take our culture and then tell us we have no culture.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which is very hurtful to us because we accept y'all with open arms. Like, we love our Caribbeans, our Africans, like, we love y'all. You see, so it's just very hurtful when I see like Haitians, Africans, anybody come here and talk down on black Americans. It's very hurtful.
SPEAKER_04See, see, that's see, that's the problem. This this is why I said us black people need to come together. You know what I mean? Like, I'm okay, just because I'm African, I'm still black. My skin is black. Yeah. If I see a black person, I don't care who it is.
SPEAKER_01Clock that motherfucking skin.
SPEAKER_04I'm still gonna be yo, bro, yo, so what's up? You know what I'm saying? Like, what up? How you doing? Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I feel like they tried so hard to separate from us. Like, they want, oh my god, we're different than them. Oh my why? Like, why are you saying like why are you saying it like it's such a bad thing to be black? Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Like I mean, some I mean sometimes it'd be it could be like, okay, like back in the days, you know how like black Americans they look at Africans like nothing as well?
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04It it is I think they look at us like that now because they've been treated differently. Yeah. But like, but Africans, like, we all we all human, we all the same, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter who's smarter. Yeah, that we all have the same skin color, we all in the same community, you feel me? So we should all just be one, you know what I mean? So when people say stuff like that, I just like bro, you just just stop it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just stop it. I just feel like it wasn't helpful to the conversation. Like, I feel like stuff like that just it it sounds to me like you're trying to boost your own ego. Like when you say things like that, it sounds very like you're just saying things, you're spewing bullshit. Because one, black Americans have a lot of culture. We we have created our own culture because we had to, okay. We had to. We we're separated, like you said, from you guys. Like, we had to make our own culture. So I feel like when you guys say that, y'all really take away from our identity. And then they like, like I said, like a lot of y'all come here and y'all take our identity. You wearing Jordans and motherfucking, like I'm wearing dress right now. But that's what I'm saying, like y'all be taking our whole style and then saying we don't have no culture, like that's very like hypocritical and just like ignorant, like it's just ignorant to say. So I just ignorant that pissed me off watching that. So I didn't even get to finish it because I really wanted to fight the bitch. I wanted to like find out where they was located so I could like pull up, but I didn't know. And then I'm also reading this book, um, perfect for our um topic, but basically it's about um a black family that basically it was an ordinary family and they turned into like uh basically like a what's that word? Like they were they used the perfect word for it, but they it's uh ordinary families turn into like you know powerful like uh leaders in the community. Like they did something um very powerful, but it's like just teaching me, it's teach it's true stories basically about black people, um ordinary families and ordinary people that have done courageous things um for our rights and for us as people. So if you guys don't, I need to get this. Um it's teaching me a lot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there's also a book. I forgot the title of it, but um it taught me it's called Unlawful Orders, by the way. It taught me um this book, um, I'll I'll send it to you because I feel like it'd be a good book for you to read too.
SPEAKER_01Yes, send it to me. I love having you look at it.
SPEAKER_04It's it's about like, you know, um about credit, money, and just investment and stuff. Like, um, yeah, if you you know, if you came from nothing, you you know, that book is gonna really teach you everything about, you know, credit and every and everything. And I I taught uh it taught me a lot too. So um you I feel like you like the book as well.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for sure. I love anything that's educational. Like I'm education free. Um and then last thing before we wrap, uh my self-reflection of the week, I like to wrap up with asking my guests if there's anything you have reflected on this week that you um maybe your past self that something you've grown from, like like for example, I've grown from you know, being super angry all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like uh letting people control my emotions. Um Is there a time this past week where something you've grown from has showed up and how did you handle that?
SPEAKER_04Oh man, um it was it was actually a couple weeks ago. Um it was just you know, people they just do things like to to test me, to just provoke me and stuff, you know what I mean? And what I learned is like, you know, you can't I can't let nobody like I can't let words just get to me, you know what I mean? They're just words, you know what I'm saying? Like it could be hurtful, it could be lies, it could be just anything. Like, I just like You know who you are, right? Yeah, I just I I know who I am at the end of the day, and I just didn't let it get to me. I just learned like, okay, like sometimes like you just gotta just breathe, you gotta just stay calm, you know what I mean? Just step away, don't let it get to you, because if you let it that words get to you, um I just you just like black out. And then I almost blacked out. I almost blacked out, I'm not gonna lie to you, almost dead. But you know, but my mind was telling me, yo, just stay calm, just breathe. You know what I mean? I always always uh I taught myself how to just relax myself, just breathe, just um don't let the negativity just get to you. Like it, I mean it doesn't really negativity doesn't really get to me, but still like just in the moment. Sometimes in the moment is like you just want to react. Yeah, I just oh yeah, exactly, exactly. But don't let your emotions get you. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01I agree. That's something I grown from a lot, and I feel like that's how you take your power back, you know, just reminding yourself of who you are and what the devil was trying to do to you in that moment. He was trying to remind you of who you used to be, and that's not who you are anymore. So be who you want to be in that moment, you know?
SPEAKER_03Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Um, I agree, and I thank y'all so much for tuning in. This was such an amazing conversation. I can't wait to have Red back again. Yes. But thank y'all so much for tuning in. Uh again, where can they follow you and your business page?
SPEAKER_04Um, okay, you can follow me on Instagram at Y-V-N-G-R-E-D. Same thing with uh YouTube. I do YouTube as well.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Um subscribe to his channel.
SPEAKER_04Yes, and then you could find um my business on vinyl capital um as V-Y-N-A-R capital. Um, we are everywhere, Instagram. You you could you can see us everywhere.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, go to his Instagram and you'll find everything because he does a lot of content based on it. So get in there and make sure you guys, if you guys need mentoring on uh financial literacy or growing uh growing your financial um, you know, just portfolio. Um also he's going into investing in real estate, so if you want to learn about that, make sure you guys hit him up. He's very, very, very, very uh knowledgeable. So it's just make sure you guys check in with him. I appreciate him again. And thank y'all for tuning in to the Bun Talk Podcast. And I love you. We'll see you next time.