Listen Like Fans- For The Love Of INXS
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INXS Legacy: Part 2 with Glenn Davis & Paul Jolley
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In Part 2 of our conversation with Glenn Davis and Paul Jolley, we dive even deeper into INXS's incredible legacy.
From the band’s enduring impact on music and popular culture to the passion of fans around the world, Glenn and Paul share their insights, memories and reflections on what continues to make INXS one of the greatest bands of all time.
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Welcome to Listen Like Fans for the love of NXFS. I'm B and each week I'll be joined by a different co-host as we dive into the songs, the stories, and the moments that made us fall in love with this most iconic band on the planet. Let's go. And we're back, we've part two with these two wonderful guys, Paul Jolie and Glenn Davis, are back for more. I think you've got another and a half today.
SPEAKER_00Welcome back, everybody. Welcome to the party that never ends.
SPEAKER_04So the next phase would have been the rock star in excess. Were you fans of the show? No. And I was like you brought. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think you both got different opinions on this one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was I was Team Mig from day one, and by the final, I was Team Marty.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I thought Marty would have been a good fit. Um didn't like JD on the show at all. And when they announced him, I was like, oh my god. Then when I went and seen him, I went and seen uh three shows in a row, and he did a good job. Did a really good job.
SPEAKER_04He did do a good job. Yeah, I I interviewed Mig a couple of uh shows ago.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just listened to it the other day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, what a lovely guy, and the fact that he knew Kirk beforehand as well. So there's a bit of a lick there because he was an Aussie. Um, and yeah, Marty seems a really cool guy as well. They all just did a uh concert together. Did you get to see that?
SPEAKER_00Was that the YouTube one?
SPEAKER_04The reunion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I clicked on it on the day and it said uh you can purchase your ticket for 35 US or something. I went bullshit, I'm not paying that. I'll wait for someone to post it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, they they they did a good job on that one. So then you did invest in going to the switch tour though when they came over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, that's where I met Todd. Todd that you had on the show just the other week.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Oh, thank you for that, Paul. I can thank you in person now for introducing me to Todd. What a character.
SPEAKER_01That dude is just the dude's dude. He is the best guy. Um, well, it's funny because I I was a bit slow onto the Facebook and all that. I was not a big social media fan at the time back in the the day, but there was a message board or or something, and I end up seeing a post uh from him. He came up as uh someone you might like to be friends with or something on something. And uh we got chatting and he said, Oh yeah, man, I'm coming out to Australia. And I said, We're when he's in Sydney and he gave me the dates, and uh I think on the the day I was with Troy Constable and um we'd bought the the um I think I sent you the picture. There was an NXS hoodie. Oh yeah, just a black hoodie with some leaves or something, and an NXS was on the on the sleeve. So we we'd both purchased that I think the the night before at the merch stand, and uh we got a picture with Todd and had a chat to him outside. And John broke a stick and I straight on the phone messaged Todd, I want that broken stick. And uh I just got a just got a ha ha back. And then uh I noticed, being a drummer, I noticed there was an issue with um John's snare during one of the songs, and I said in between songs, Todd sort of appeared from behind John, grab the snare, flick it off the the snare stand, replace it, put the mic back on, and away they went. And I said again, hey Todd, what happened with the snare? And he went, Did you notice that? Oh my god, you'd be the only person at the rip notice and at the end of the night, um he came out and he had the the broken stick, two sticks that were just used by John but not broken, and said snare head, you know, which uh uh got the gods to sign. So that was pretty cool. Um I lost that in a in a in a fire that was in this garage a few years back, but uh oh no, yeah, I lost a whole bunch of stuff, but I'm slowly replacing it all, and uh I'm starting. I don't know if you'd be able to sort of see it too well, but um I've got John's road case there.
SPEAKER_04And uh thanks to me that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was a good tip off that was, and uh so that's now prior prior to place in the in the garage here, but um it's full of all the goodies, the books, the records, the cassettes, the the building blocks, all the all the little bibs and bobs that we all collect a lot.
SPEAKER_02Oh so cool our roadcoat. Yeah, I remember seeing that sitting out the out the back of the metro when they were unloading.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that was a strange one, wasn't it? Did it come up on Facebook or something, Paul? Or it was on Facebook Marketplace, and I said, Paul, this one you've got to go and see it, you've got to view it.
SPEAKER_01My favorite bit, I don't know if you can see it. See that sticker there? Oh, yeah, it's an old worn sticker, and and there's like old freight stickers on it. And oh wow, you know, the this way up stickers, and who who knows what D36 is? I guess D for drums and and whatnot, but um yeah, it's a it's a it's a cool box.
SPEAKER_04So there was nothing in that box, but there was another box, and that was full of stuff, wasn't there? When you went to the city, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, how much do you want me to disclose about that?
SPEAKER_04Let's disclose it now because it's gone, hasn't it? I mean, we try to get band management and bat and we think it was we think it belonged to Gary Beers, didn't we?
SPEAKER_01Well, no, the the the road case itself was a red one. Sorry for the camera work right now, but I'm just sort of showing you the inside of the can you see the inside of the case? Oh, um so it's all drawers.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's inside it. Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that's the inside. They got like a fold-down shelf thing there. Yeah, then it says new blank passes, lanyards, 110 mitigator, PWR samples, laminator pouches, lanyards. All those stickers were there when I bought it. So I've just started filling up the drawers with like all my uh very cool bootleg cassettes and all that sort of stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So it must have been used as a storage case, not just for drums, but for the lanyards and all bits and pieces afterwards, then.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it looks like uh yeah, but the other the other case was a a flat red case, and it had um it it's it is said that it was Michael's road case, and the guy I purchased this one off, he'd already sold Michael's box because I was gonna buy both. Um but he said it was full of Michael's clothes. And I said, Well, I think I was speaking to you at the time, B, and I said, Um, mate, we've got contact to Michael's daughter if you want to pass them on, and then of course he just disappeared, so don't know, don't know what happened after that.
SPEAKER_04Okay, well, I did get a bit more information um from the guy because he was quite open at the beginning, and yeah, there was the do you remember the plaques they were all given when they played?
SPEAKER_01Oh, from Wembley, yeah, Gary's, Gary's plaques.
SPEAKER_04And it was Gary's plaque from Wembley that was in there. That was and I asked Tim what it looked like, and Tim found his and showed me his, and I was like, it's the same one, yeah, and Michael's a pair of there was a pair of Dot Martins in there as well.
SPEAKER_00Oh well, really? That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and it's you saw a few things though, didn't you, Paul?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there were uh it was kind of like a really sus deal because I didn't ever meet the guy. Um, I went to a furniture place in Alexandria where it was stored out the back, and the people there knew of the guy, but it was a friend of a friend of a friend scenario.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it felt like that.
SPEAKER_01And I just left the cash and threw that in the back of my wagon at the time, and that was the last I heard. And I I tried to reach out to him after that, but he never responded.
SPEAKER_04Nah, they all went quiet. We were trying to get it all for Tiger.
SPEAKER_01That's right, yeah. We thought we could, you know, facilitate that for them, but he wasn't too willing. They might pop up in a year or so, who knows?
SPEAKER_04Who knows? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But he did sell the case to someone else, but it was empty.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Very interesting. Okay, so back to the switch, the switch tour. So you you met quite a few people on that switch tour though, didn't you? There's quite a big gang of you following them around. Did you did you go up and down Australia um following them, or was it the mainly the Sydney uh concerts that you did?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I just did uh well Sydney, but I went down the coast a bit and up the coast a bit. Um but yeah, mainly the New South Wales shows for me. Uh sort of wanted to give a get it, you know, a good three or four shows under my belt so I could sort of make a fair judgment on how I felt about it all.
SPEAKER_04And how did you feel about it all?
SPEAKER_01Well, it's kind of like Glenn was saying, you know, um there's no replacing. Um but it was lovely to hear the music being played and and new songs. And um I can't can't listen to God's top ten. I can't listen to it. It just breaks me. Um but enjoyed the other songs. I thought there were some good qu good quality songs. Um but yeah, not the first album I'd grab when I'm sitting there doing.
SPEAKER_04No, but when you but when you do, yeah, but when you do grab it and you just have a listen, you're like, oh wow, there is some really good songs in here that we just push back on because it hurts so much that it's not Michael singing the songs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, when I when I'm in the car and if if I've got this in excess shuffling, which is only Monday to Sunday, um when a switch song comes on, I don't skip it, you know what I mean? No, I'll listen to it, sing along, except for one, there's one song that comes on, which I just said. Yeah, soon as I as soon as I hear this the the start of God's top ten, I do skip that.
SPEAKER_02I just yeah, that is an emotional song, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but the rest of the album quite he if it comes on, I hear it, I listen to it, I'll sing along, no problem.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you you skip that one because it's too emotional. Is there an excess song you skip because you don't particularly like it? Is there one?
SPEAKER_01No, it used to be the gift. But after. Yeah, and I know that again, unpopular opinion because I heard you say on the podcast eight yonks ago that you quite liked it, and I couldn't stand it. It was just too much noise. And and then I went back and I went, okay, have another listen. And I actually played it through my PA in my studio here and got a totally different experience and went, eh, all right, that's okay. And then a couple more listens, and and now I like it. So um, but it used to be the gift, but no longer.
SPEAKER_04Interesting. I wouldn't have done that one, but but then if you're a shibus shibou shaban, then um then you'd like most of those sort of era songs anyway. You wasn't really into that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Again, the podcast sort of opened my eyes back up that there were albums after kick. Um, because that was my era as a teenager, early 20s, up to kick. Um, and then I sort of you I think Hayden used to say, you know, you you get busy with life and you don't you're not as attentive and going out and seeing the bands every week and and all that, and then though mind the pun, they're a little bit inaccessible, um, because they'd gone overseas and and had conquering the world and stuff. So they weren't a a Sydney band anymore, um, the world's band, and happy for their success.
SPEAKER_02But still, and I don't think I think too at the time, Paul. I think what hit us, and I understand what you're saying there, is we sort of we didn't grow out of the band. The the there was no um social media like we have now, so we couldn't see from Australia, we couldn't see what was actually happening in America at the time and how big the band was because um I remember through that nxs.com I ended up um that and I wasn't I've never been a computer savvy person, but I got onto the NXS stuff straight away on the on the home computer, and I ended up chatting in an NXS group to um to a lovely girl named Dina, who you guys might know, Dina. Um, she lives in Washington, and and we sort of connected, god probably '97, probably around the time Michael passed, or '98. Um, and we started sending each other VHS tapes, and I'd send her all my Australian stuff, and she'd send all the American stuff. And it was such a spin-out. Yeah, it was so like this was pre-Youtube. I mean, for even imagining, imagining there was something like YouTube. But um, to get to see this, oh wow, these guys are massive over here in America. And and to see, I don't know if you've seen the trailer park MTV stuff and all of that. She's and she sent me um like live stuff that they performances, and I'd sent her our stuff, and and um, yeah, that was a real eye-opener. Like you say, now, even so many years later, we're still seeing things and hearing things we've never seen or heard before. When you think that there's nothing in excess that you don't know about, something just pops up out of nowhere. Um, but but I think without that technology, we didn't know what was happening. We were just living our lives and going to see the bands we could see and following what we could follow.
SPEAKER_01It's cool rediscovering stuff too. It's it's real so we're at the moment playing playing the later albums and going, oh yeah, this is much better than I remember home. So um I'm enjoying that at the moment, which is is great for me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and it's good that we can all share it so instantly now in the in the group chats that we've we're all in.
SPEAKER_01Back to what I said before, the community that you've created has given us a whole new world of enjoyment.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and and accessibility with the photos as well. It's it's good. It's and there's always something to talk about every every day. There's a new little thing that pops up. We've got the ballet next, which is going to be happening. Uh, have you got your tickets to go or you're not really interested?
SPEAKER_01Well, it's funny. I've got on my on my playlist on on Spotify, I've got those orchestral versions of the NXS songs that I was just playing to my son's mates last night. And they they were like, Oh, this is really cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they are.
SPEAKER_01But um, yeah, I don't know that I'd be able to go and sit for a couple hours and and do it. But I might, who knows?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I'm hoping that um one of the band members will be there as well. Spoke to Mileena and she says that they might go, which will be good. Um but yeah, it's um it's going to be interesting, contemporary ballet, um, with but it'd be great to hear the songs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So when are you gonna start giving out clues to the 50th celebrations?
SPEAKER_04Clues, okay. Well, probably need you two behind the scenes to help me with some of the things to come together for that. What do you think that we should do?
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, if you could replicate that one two years ago on the normal routes, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think the first thing we've got to do is come first thing we've got to do is come to terms with it's 50 years.
SPEAKER_05I know.
SPEAKER_02That's incredible, isn't it? Probably 50 years. I I I I'm only how old?
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_01I'll just ignore it.
SPEAKER_04No, we won't. We will get together. Um I suppose the only thing that I'm sort of um a bit um I I don't want to do anything yet, just in case in excess of doing something that weekend. Well, that's yeah because I don't want to step on that type, because we all want to go to that, don't we? You know?
SPEAKER_01So I have to be honest, I was I was head on heart, I was fishing a little bit then that you may have known something.
SPEAKER_04Well, um I they never tell me anything. I have to I have to find out. So um I will be put in the feel of that soon um about what is going on, or if we can sort of do something that's around it anyway. I don't I definitely want to do the I I really do fancy doing the um the the boat party, having been on the harbour and done um a boat party and really enjoyed it. It was an like an 80s um theme, but um it'd be great just to hear in excess music. But the only thing it's August, and we know how bloody cold it is here in August, and being on the water, I'm not sure if that is a really good idea. Um now I'm in August, we're about to come into August. People in um in Europe are going, what are you talking about? It's only 19 degrees, um, but it's actually very cold, isn't it? 19 degrees in Australia.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for us it is. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04But yeah, I will I will be doing something, and I hope you two can still join me and bring your beautiful wives with you. Are you married yet, Glenn? You married this beautiful girl yet?
SPEAKER_02Next question, what are we up to? Monday.
SPEAKER_04Let's tell the viewers um or the listeners.
SPEAKER_02It's just you know, in our hearts we are married, you know. What's the difference?
SPEAKER_04So you two were school school um sweethearts, weren't you? And then you feigned each other again later in life. Is that right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I mean, it's it's funny. We were talking about it this morning because um she met me when I was just turned 17. That was just after the uh uh around the time we went to Australia Maid. Well, I went to Australia Maid, and um yeah, in excess for huge then. So we met in 1988, so that was Kick. Kick had just come out and and was massive at the time. She bought me um, I remember Melaney bought me the Devil Inside 12-inch mix at the time, and oh no, I'd bought it. Sorry, I bought it myself and I left it at the bus stop talking to her, and and I was and then I realized we got on the bus, and I'm like, oh no, I've left the record there, and she went out and bought me that record and gave it to me the next day, and I was like, Wow, okay, I kind of like this girl now.
SPEAKER_05It's like um smart lady.
SPEAKER_02So we were together for I think three just over three years at the time until I um yeah, I was a bit too wild and crazy for any relationships when I was in my 20s. So um, but yeah, and then 27 years later we ended up meeting up again, and we've been together for four years. How long have we been together? It's four years, seven years.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's longer, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, seven years now.
SPEAKER_04You bet you both came to the second anniversary of the podcast, and we're six years, so yeah, four or five years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so so yeah, so she she understands my love for in excess more than anybody. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing how many people too. I and I meant to say this before. What was really touching after Michael passed away was the amount of people that said to me, when I heard that Michael passed away, the first person I thought of was you. And and that still gives me goosebumps. Is how many how and I'm saying a lot of people over the years have that I've ran into have said to me that um that the first person they thought of was me because they knew my association was was real with in excess. It wasn't just uh a little bit of a fan, it was like I bled, I was consumed by you know that that that was my um that was my group, you know, and and it was very touching how many people thought of me straight away. Um, and I'm sure Paul coped the same thing, you know, that in excess connection. I've still got friends now that ring me and and and that in excess bond has kept us strong. My friends like Clancy and Hang and and all that. I took them all to these concerts when they were younger, and that was moments they never forgot. It was very special moments, you know, because um I think it was a Different era growing up. We we didn't have the technology of, you know, we actually had to go out and find our fun. We actually had to go out and take the steps to do these things. We couldn't do it from the lounge room. So, apart from play our music and sing along, and and but to actually get out there and experience the that no one will ever understand unless you go to a concert that feeling of when the lights go out and the band is about to get on stage and this atmosphere and the crowd, and it's it's it's better than any drug, any anything you could drink. It's it's the best rush in the world, and especially being your favorite band, and then all of a sudden to have the guys standing in front of you. Uh, and any real NXS fan can tell you where Michael will stand, where Tim is, where where Kirk is, where Gary. We we knew their places, you know, and and um it's something we just you know. I'm gonna go see Queens of the Stone Age at the end of the year, and I'm gonna see Foo Fighters. It's never gonna be the same as going to an in XS show. It's never gonna be that same feeling, you know.
SPEAKER_04Imagine the concerts now they would be doing with the technology. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It'd be it'll be pretty uh scary because they were always so far ahead of everybody else in that sense of technology. Their music is so advanced, and and and even the Max Q album, if that was released tomorrow, it it would be like it was brand new, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That would be so fun, which it is going to be ironically going to be released anytime, anytime soon.
SPEAKER_02Well, after Michael passed, it was funny. I couldn't listen to Inexess. I I I couldn't listen to them, it was too hard. I I started listening to the Verve album at the time. Um, that helped me a lot. Yeah, um, I can't really like songs like Lucky Man and The Drug Stone Work. And I've never been one to be a fan of overseas bands, but that that album came out at the time, and I think that album helped me get through a lot. And then when I finally did start listening to Michael's voice again, it was Max Q that got me listening to that. That was when I first started listening again, and then slowly started listening back to in excess and and was able to do it without it getting too too hard.
SPEAKER_04It would be hard for you to listen to but Michael was make in with um Andy Gill and Danny Saber. Have you been able to listen to that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I had that album straight away. I actually won I won uh a copy and then I had a copy. I think I ended up with like three copies of that album. I did listen to it a lot. I I actually even downloaded some of the songs before they were released. So I remember having that on like a bootleg CD and listening to that. Um, there was something special about that because it was more, it wasn't in excess, it was more almost an angry Michael. Some of those lyrics like let the people talk, and yeah, so I was able to listen to it, but but not um it I think it had a bit of a dark effect on me, actually. That album, I think it sort of got me into a bit of depression through that period of time, and so I don't listen to that as much as I used to. Yeah, yeah, I think I I think I liked it taking me into the darkness. I think I enjoyed that, and I don't want to be that person anymore, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01Sort of trying to go. I I had a slightly different sway to that. I I've played it twice. I I played it when I bought it when it first came out. Um and went, okay, I've I own it, it's kind of in excess, but it's not. I'm an in excess fan, and Michael's in in excess, but it's not. So I played it when I bought it. I played it about a year later, haven't played it since. So I've got it, it's in the collection. Um but then I sort of my mindset is I'm an in excess fan. Um, so yeah, I've got it, but it's not something I plan on playing in the next period of time.
SPEAKER_04It it popped up on my playlist this morning, and I think it was possibilities. And like you said, it's really so dark and Michael's not in a good good state of mind, really, really, is he? He's he's like fighting a lot of demons, and the demons are the press mainly as well. Um, that it's really hard to listen to. I didn't I didn't skip it, but I just couldn't listen to it properly. Like I just was okay, it's on. I'll get through this song will be on in a minute.
SPEAKER_02Because he was in such a dark place, it takes you to that dark place, um, lyrically, and and you can, you know, like song possibilities. I mean, just I can hear it in my head already. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't know. And the other thing about that album is too, I don't think would Michael have liked it? I don't know. Like, you know, he might not have liked the way it was produced, it might not have been the way he wanted it to sound. You know, he had no say in how it was released. This was all created from, and I'm sure in the right loving, you know, in the way thinking they're doing the right thing, but is it what Michael would have wanted? Would he even Michael might have said, no my god, no, I hate this. Like, you don't know, so but there's there's a time and a place for that album.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that and the album, it really does sound quite dated already because it's got that 90s production to it, yeah. And like, and like in XS, that was just really class, and it didn't, you know, you can't every album you can listen to and you go, okay, the the first couple maybe sound of that era, but yeah, like elegantly wasted their album that could that could be released today and it wouldn't sound out of place at all, would it? Well, to me it wouldn't anyway. Oh, okay. Well, let's talk about you two before we we head off because Glenn, well Erna, let's talk about Paul because Glenn Glenn Paul hasn't spoken too much in the last couple of minutes. Um how's the how's the drumming and mad rhino going? Not mad rhino, um that was your last band, wasn't it? Well, mad rhino, are they are still they still going?
SPEAKER_01No, so mad rhino was just a good pub band, played a lot of Aussie stuff, and uh right up my alley. Um Glenn used to come and see Mad Rhino a bit, and um one guy pretty much retired when COVID hit, and the other guy fell in love with his childhood sweetheart and uh has moved to Queensland, so we've put a put a stop in that one. And uh I do a lot of freelance shows where I'll go and play with a band on a night if they're drummers on a holidays, sick, whatever. And I did a show, a couple of suburbs over one Sunday at a car show. Just turned up on the day and played drums for this band, and their singer was phenomenal. And uh I said to the singer, Do you freelance? And she said, Yeah. So we put a band together, and um, there was a band called Sweet of Failure, which was great fun. And uh then that finished up, same bass player that moved to Queensland. We've started the new band Little Wicked about 12 months ago, 18 months ago, and it's going great. And we're playing up and down the east coast of New South Wales. Um, don't want to do it three nights a week anymore. We're getting too old for that rubbish, but um play like once a fortnight now and and have a great time. And it's having a female singer just opens up a whole new spectrum of songs. Um, she's a pocket rocket, she's amazing.
SPEAKER_04She really is, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's brilliant. Yeah, Day Change is still the last song. Um, so that's that's not negotiable. We've introduced Never Tear Us Apart, um, which is going well, and we're looking at a couple others at the moment, but you've got to be careful in a pub cover band that you can't do six of one artist.
SPEAKER_04So um yeah.
SPEAKER_01Day Change, like I said, is is not negotiable. Never tear us apart's going over really well. Everyone knows it has a sing-along. So um Bernard's standard um covers band, you do your all your obvious cliche song, you do Sweet Caroline and all that. So we put Never Terrorist Apart on the end of the sing-along songs, and and the punters seem to enjoy it, so that's good fun.
SPEAKER_04Good, good. You you think you'll just keep going and going until you can't sit down with it.
SPEAKER_01Well, there's the there's talk of retirement. Um, I'm thinking of giving it away at the end of this year because other things to do.
SPEAKER_04But um, I've been saying that for the last 10 years, so I'll uh I didn't I originally said I was gonna retire at 30 if I hadn't made it because I didn't want to be one of those old museums playing in pubs, and here I am 30 years later, so you got me thinking maybe we'll get you together and um we can see if there's any other um people in Sydney that are in XS fans and we can pull a little band together for the 50th.
SPEAKER_01Fuck it. Yeah, oh by but just since I've got the the platform, by the way, Blair. I'm available.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Blair. If Blair, if you want a drummer that knows every single NXS song, that's a man.
SPEAKER_04Kai does do a good job though at the band.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he he said social. He's a great yeah, he's a great drummer. I uh I quite enjoy going and seeing them play, and uh I'm probably his hardest critic in the room, and there's nothing to fold him on. He is absolutely brilliant, and uh there's the little bits and pieces that um the more educated he knows to listen for, and and he nails them. He he goes great.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's great.
SPEAKER_01I'll have to let the tires down in his car one night or something.
SPEAKER_05Just give me the match. Give me the Regio number, I'll fix it up.
SPEAKER_04And then your acting career, that's going really well, isn't it, Glenn?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's it's it's it's started, it's just a bit of fun, you know. Like I've I've always wanted I did I attempted drama when I was younger, but I was thinking I was just not in that frame of mind where I could take it seriously, and um, so I started doing a bit of drama class and a bit of extras work, so I'm up to um level three on my drama class, but in between I've just been taking on a few jobs uh like through different channels, um, backstage and star now. And and I'm surprised like of the first couple of months I got pretty pretty lucky, did um a couple of short films, um, did some extras work and did a music video clip with uh uh independent Aussie artist um named Alex the astronaut. She's absolutely brilliant, and um she's actually performed with people like Neil uh Tim Finn and uh Paul Kelly. So I did a film clip with her recently, which has only just come out. So it's funny seeing yourself in in a film clip, but um it's pretty cool as well. So I'll just keep keep plugging along. I've got um I can do a YouTube series if I if I want to go ahead with it. I'm I'm an umming and aring about it. It looks a bit silly, but um, these are the things you gotta do if you want to get into the into the acting gig, I suppose, into the caper. You've got to sell your soul a little bit and do things you might not want to do. But uh just do it, brother.
SPEAKER_00Just do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Just jump in, do it. I'm the same man. You you're of that gig um New Year's Eve that I did a couple of years ago at down at um Koshagay Park. Yeah, yeah. You know, we're we're we're we're having a laugh beforehand. You and I stand there, and then I go up on stage and there's 25,000 people. I was shitting myself, man.
SPEAKER_02But you just that was that was a brilliant night, that was, yeah. Yeah, you guys were on fire that night.
SPEAKER_01I never I've never played to a crowd that big before, and I walked up on stage and just froze. But you know what? You sit down at the drum kit and you do it, and it's the same with the acting, man.
SPEAKER_02You just just you saw me, you saw me front row that day, and you felt comfortable because it was, you know, 100% as long as yeah, I'll keep it fun and just keep doing what I've got to do. But um, but yeah, it's nice to get out there and try something you haven't tried before. It's pretty nerve-wracking, like doing the performances in front of people, but the feedback um just keeps you driving, keeps you wanting to go, okay. All right, maybe I'm not so bad at this, so you know.
SPEAKER_04All right, everybody, you you heard it hit his name here first. Glenn Davis will be uh the new Tom Hanks before he was famous, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Before I was famous, sure. Um, no, but I'm I'm I'm happy to take on. If anyone out there is listening that wants someone to kick back in their video clip or do some extras work or or or even a lead role, I'm happy to take that on.
SPEAKER_04Cool, a lead role, yeah. All right, a few fun questions before we wrap up. Okay, I think we've we've managed to go for a few of these, but I'll ask you anyway.
SPEAKER_01Um, most underrated song or most underrated song would be black and white.
SPEAKER_04Of course, going back to the beginning. Would you agree on that? Or have you got a different one, Glenn?
SPEAKER_02Well, no, I totally agree. Black and white is is definitely an underrated uh song. It was massive at the time, especially with the the extended mixes, which was fairly new um through that period. Enix has pioneered those 12-inch mixes too, massively back in the day. Uh, I think for me, the song Love is What I Say is is um is is sometimes like a forgotten favorite. It's it's one of those songs that doesn't get played as much as it should. Does it get airplayed? But when no doesn't get as much airplay and sort of gets forgotten. Um, that that song and the music video clip that Richard did at the time was really good too because it gave you an ins. Yeah, it gave you an insight into into the lives shots of what they were up to at the time and and everything. Um, and another song, and I've said this for many years, there's a song called Night of Rebellion off is it off the Underneath the Colors? I think it's off Underneath the Colours, and um it is such a groovy little song. I've always thought it would make the ultimate cover version for a new upcoming Osrock band or just some band that wants to play something different on stage, Night of Rebellion. I think that's a very underrated song as well. But um, yeah, I'll pick Love Is Love is what I say.
SPEAKER_04That single is a rare single to have. We found out last week from Andrew Lovers. I've got two of them. You got two of them. Well, I think uh saying that somebody might be getting in Twitch review um this afternoon. Not for certain what, but you're gonna keep both. Yep, yes, okay. Favorite band member, Glenn.
SPEAKER_02Um, oh look, Michael was always the favorite band member when I was younger because I suppose um, you know, I looked up to him, he was my influence, I guess, in a way. But over the years, the the the man that I've really, especially um as I've got older, the the man I realized was such a massive part of in excess was Kirk. Um his backing vocals, his guitar, his saxophone. A lot of the a lot of the guitar work that I thought was Tim was actually Kirk. I know. It wasn't until I've I've I've I've sort of it's dawned on on me over the years now. Hang on a sec. Um, but I think Kirk is the most underrated um member of NXS, and and I can't imagine the band becoming the way they did or or being the band they were without Kirk, you know, because because I think Kirk helped Michael's voice so well, and you hear it especially in the in the Shibushaba earlier days, what a big influence it had. Um, and the fact that he picked up that saxophone and and imagine never tear us apart without saxophone wouldn't be the same with a harmonica, would it?
SPEAKER_04No, no, and when he was in Guinness, you know, he was the lead singer in that in that um in that band. So he he made room for Michael to become the singer and did a great job in being that, you know, the the guitarist, the saxophone player, the back-end singer, like you say. And uh yeah, I mean he he wrote a lot of the songs as well at the beginning, managed the band.
SPEAKER_02The B sides, the B sides he did Begotten and and a couple of others. Uh it was a six strings. Um who's way more important than than people realise to the band.
SPEAKER_04We love you, Kirk. How about you?
SPEAKER_01We love you, Kirk. I know you both think I'm gonna say John, but I'm actually gonna say Gary. Oh yeah, and I'll tell you why. And and a similar mindset to why I think black and white is the most underrated song. If you if you've got the ear to sit back and listen to the bass lines in any in excess song, his bass lines are killer. You listen to the the the the melody of the bass line in kick, you won't hear that anywhere else. Yeah, you I challenge everyone to go and play kick after they hear this and listen to the bass line. Listen to the bass line in the loved one, both versions, they're both unique to each other. Um, you listen to some of the earlier albums, um, the bass lines again are killer. Um when you a lot of people don't realise um there's another Australian artist called Richard Clapton, well renowned in in XS World. He produced one of their albums, but he did a live concert, Mark, and I think it was 25 years or 30 years of his career back in the late 80s, early 90s, and it's called Richard Clapton: The Best Years of Our Lives, and it's a live concert. John's on drums, Gary's on bass. Um, the guys that played that night were the the the cream of the Australian music industry, and when you realize two players out of in excess are in that super band, you realise the quality that these guys possess and and the reputation they clearly had amongst their peers. Gary also did with Sean Kelly out of the models uh a band called Absent Friends. Um sorry, I'm releasing my in excess nerdism here. But if uh if you you know I'd I'd I'd come last in a trivia quiz, but this stuff is more bread and butter. There's a band called Absent Friends again from the late 80s, early 90s. I think it was more 80s. They they were kind of like a throw-together band of it's Sean Kelly out of the models and it's Gary Beers from In Excess and etc, etc.
SPEAKER_02Um Wendy Matthews.
SPEAKER_01Wendy Matthews on on Vocal is a Canadian, Canadian artist that you know, I think she married Sean eventually. But yeah, um Gary's bass lines, um, you know, even a simple melodic song like I send a message when you've got a bass going bump, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. The just the syncopation um to the drums and then the melody of the song. The bass player is always overlooked in most bands, you know. Um, but but GGB.
SPEAKER_04Unless you're John Taylor.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. But um, he is a phenomenal player, you know, and and and you put I put him up there with John and Phil Leonard from from um Thin Lizzie, you know, the the guy can play, you know, and you can see you can see now with the technology that that he possesses with what he's doing with basses and the pickups and stuff. Uh as a drummer, I always highly regard bass players and and he's one of the best I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_04Well, if you asked me what my underrated song was, um it'd be strange desire, and it would be because of Gary's bass line, that beginning. Uh that just get as soon as that comes on, I'm just like there, right there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's highlighted in every song without getting a solo, you know, the guitar sound solos and keys get their their bit, but um, it's it's amazing how lot how many times you'll find yourself um uh you know, the runs he does in Original Sin and Melding in the Sun and Dancing on the Jetty. He you can hear them, but the focals, the vocals and the guitar and and and the phenomenal drumming, of course. But yeah, I I encourage everyone to sort of take the time to have a listen at the bass lines, and they're they're just world best. It really, really, really blows me away.
SPEAKER_04All right, before I get on to the the the next um question, um if any of you listeners are listening, we Hayden and I in our um in access access all areas podcast, we interviewed Richard Clapton. If you want to listen to that, go to our website, which is in access accessallareas.com and just put in the search, search for anything. Oh, there you go, he's wearing one of the caps. Bless you. For those that are listening, Glenn's just showed us the cap that had the in access um logo on there. So yeah, you can go and and you can search for anything. We've got we've done we've interviewed all the band members and the producers, um, and uh Richard Clapturn um produced Underneath the Colours. Is that right, nerds? Yes. All right, next one, your favorite music video.
SPEAKER_01Bird to you.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I nearly had a t-shirt once. Not that I'm but that's similar to what Gwen was saying about a clip before where you got to see um what they were doing live and stuff. I love the storytelling in that particular clip. Um one minute they're sitting in the house strumming, Kirk sitting on a set of steps strumming a guitar, and next minute they're getting out of a limo in in London and you know at the music shop, and there's the poster with the black poster with in excess, in excess down the thing, and then there's some live shots, and there's uh you get the global feel of that we're not just an Australian band anymore. Now we're global, now we're making it. Um the progression of being in towns will running through the mangroves or wherever that was, um, to the plane landing, and the you know, you see the cities and the populations are put up, and it just gives you that sense of the growth of the band.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01For me, for me personally, a sense of pride, you know, these dudes, these dudes are gonna make it, you know, and become the biggest band in the world, which they did. So yeah, that that for me is why Burn for You and the clip um really does it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I know I I gotta agree with Paul. I think Burn for You was probably that breakthrough video clip that um at at the time too. Richard had done uh he'd done Hunters and Collectors and Cold Chisel Saturday night. Yeah, and I think I think because we knew our music and that at the time, we knew that oh well, that's the same guy that's done these clips, and it made it a little bit more special, even though we probably didn't even know who Richard was at the time. Um but yeah, that clip is is one of the most memorable. I've probably watched it more than any other clip. But the other clip that I I I really loved was uh To Look at You with Michael Stuart, had the short hair, and I don't think I'd seen that clip until after um the swing came out when they did the swing and other stories. Oh yeah, and they had the bits of To Look at You, but they broke up the clips with interviews and all of this. So it was a long time before I saw that clip from beginning to end in full. Um, I don't know if I saw it on Rage or something one day, but um yeah, that that clip to look at you was was pretty amazing back in the day, too. It just had that cool aspect about it. Very cool.
SPEAKER_04What did you think of the video collection that they did with them not in them of well I suppose Kirk was in one of them, um when they did the Full Moon Dirty Hearts videos? What did you what was your thoughts on that? Although you Paul, you was you wasn't really listening to them back then, I suppose.
SPEAKER_01Well, I I've seen the um w when it was originally released and uh I did get a copy of it. And um I did stumble across some media where Michael was talking about giving filmmakers a go.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I kind of really ex really respected that. I thought, you know, you're paying it forwarded, you're giving it back, you know, all all all the cliches apply here. Um I thought that was really outstanding of the band, and that actually drew me in to watch them all. And I've I've watched the version where um it goes into one and out in the other, and you recognize Glenn more than I will recognise a few of the um Australian actors that are in different different ones. Um so I thought I thought it kind of in the age of CDs and and where digital was really starting to kick off, it actually dragged us back into uh listening to an album as a story in full, and the chapters that each single or each track builds to the other. And I know uh Mark Opertz spoke to that many times about track order is so important for this reason, and um I think that was almost like a a nod to the past of listening to an album, even though now you were doing it as a a video album. It still had that same and being from the right generation burner Gen X or myself, I was quite comfortable watching it that way and listening to it. So you I actually really enjoyed that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was that was interesting that period of time because that that was live on television too, uh if I remember right, that um when it was released, and it was a big, big thing, you know. So it was that was and that was around the time where in excess had sort of become you know big, too big for Australians and and all of this, too. So um, yeah, I think there was a lot of you know different opinions and all of that about it at the time, but at the end of the day, it was still again in excess ahead of everybody else and doing something different, and then yeah, looking after their own in a way, like you said, using Australian filmmakers, helping filmmakers come through, and and like Paul said, there was a lot of um good Australian actors in in that like that full moon dirty hearts clip, and um, you know, it was it was good, it was it was good for the time, but I think by that period, in XS, like Full Moon, Dirty Hearts and Welcome to Wherever You Are it sort of dropped off the radar in Australia. The grunge had come into people more into you know grunge bands and grunge music, and and I think in XS didn't know really where they were to fit in at that time, yeah. So they maybe tried a little bit too hard to fit in. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04They they just weren't getting played as much, were they?
SPEAKER_02Australian radio has always bugged me for many years. Um, especially especially radio stations like Triple M and that that say they promote Australian bands. But if you I don't know if Paul, if you ever noticed this yourself, but whenever NXS seemed to have a new album out, they would play an old song. They would never play the new song. They'd be like, Oh, NXS have got this new album coming out on Monday. Let's play something from five years ago. And and they never really seem to get on the back, and and not just with NXS, with a lot of bands, they'll do the same thing, they'll talk about oh, they're touring off a new album. So let's listen to something from five years ago instead of here's the new single, give it a go. So I don't think Australian radio or anything has really ever been there for the band. I think it's just lucky they had the balls to tour the way they did and the confidence in themselves and great management with Chris Murphy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and is it is isn't there a story?
SPEAKER_01I'll say this so B knows at two hours 30 and 30 seconds because you'll both you would be probably probably probably once you might you may want to edit this out, but I'm sure there's a story uh pertaining to John Stevens, who interacted with Triple M about an album and took them the album and they said, Oh, if you change this, this, and this, we'll play it. He went back, did that, spent the extra dollars, and released it, and they never played a second of it. I believe that to be a true story, but I did say the two hours and three minutes.
SPEAKER_02I think uh I think I think other than countdown and maybe triple J in the early days, there's Australia's never really had much of a promotion to to promote bands and that except for posters on the wall playing gigs and word of mouth. That's it. Australians, Australian, Australian bands, yeah. Beatbox, that was my favorite. Yeah, beatbox. Thank you. I forgot about beatbox, but but bat box, beatbox.
SPEAKER_01There was a there was a show on a Saturday, Saturday mornings on on uh on ABC, and it was called Beatbox. It was kind of like rage, but it really focused on you mainly seen live clips. So when when uh in XS were touring, up and pop them playing somewhere in Chile or or um uruguay or and and that's you know, everyone knows the clips um from the Shibushabar period. Uh, you can see them on YouTube now. It's called Perkins Palace. And Mop got the black on with the white scarf. Yeah, and uh I remember I think it was Darren Jones who was telling me that it was in at Kujibay Hotel, and I'm like, nah, man, it's it's America. Is uh at the start of at the start of Don't Change, he says, I'll see you around America, which maybe sort of twig, you know. And um, but yeah, those those Perkin Palace shows and the one of him wearing the white outfit, that was America as well.
SPEAKER_02They they played that on beatbox as well. Um but they used to they they that was a good show. They came to Macquarie Fields, remember?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02I've got the video. I've got the video with the young young Philip Elliott and a few of the boys uh sitting around the fire, sitting around the fire talking about stealing cars and stuff.
SPEAKER_01God, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I I just want to cheat with B.
SPEAKER_04You got another two hours or I am gonna wrap this up in a bit, but I'm gonna I I I've got ideas. All right, if you could relive one in excess moment, what would it be?
SPEAKER_02You go first one to relive it. To relive it. Um shoot. I think I'd love to sit through the whole Australian made concert again. But the in excess set anyway, that side of it, because it was a very long day.
SPEAKER_01Um it was hot too. Yes, it was a hot day. Uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I I wish I could relive it all.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it'd be good.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, that's that's so tough. Um Big Swing just jumped to mine, which was at Heathcote Oval. Though they were really good that day. It's rained, and uh Michael was laughing at the crowd and going, we're getting wet up here too. The sound guys aren't happy. Uh I'd probably go back to the very first concert I went to. Um it was and again, I'm biased, but it was half Shibusha Bar was the swing. It was the first time I'd heard any of the swing songs from the first two albums into Shibusha Bar. You you knew they were on the on the up. You could hear the quality of the production, you could hear the quality of the musicianship, the quality of Michael's singing and vocals. You knew this was a band that was on the up and were going somewhere.
SPEAKER_02And I think Was that the Australian Maid concert? Um was that at the entertainment center? Sorry, I'm in class.
SPEAKER_01No, at the Horden. Oh, that's the Horden one, yeah. I remember sort of just standing there, just being blown away like every song I liked. I knew all those Shibu Shiba songs off by heart. And hearing the swing, first time I heard Original Sin, I was just blown away. It was a whole different new sound. And and again, the drums and the bass line and the keyboards in that song uh, you know, just still blow my mind to this day. And hearing all the different versions that evolve to um even at Wembley, it's just it's a different bit at the end where they they're literally just jamming at the end. Yeah, you can tell by the way the song finishes that they're like, right, hey, we've got to stop. But uh they probably could have gone on for another another two or three minutes. Because you if you if you sort of take that step back and you watch Gary's like playing and and the head's going like that, and when musicians forget themselves and just get absorbed into the music, they're the special moments you've got to really watch for. When they forget about oh, I'm I'm on camera, I'll stand up straight and all that. When they forget that and they're just as a band absorbed with each other, original sin's one of those moments in the song. You can see Michael on a few occasions, you know, where you know he rubs his head with the towel and he's dancing. He's not performing for the crowd, he's just into what the beats are doing on stage. And for me, you know, a lover of their music, that's I don't care about the image part. When I hear and see those bits, I I just get so filled with it.
SPEAKER_04Seeing your bad enjoying themselves, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, it's just like you know, yeah, boys, we're on, you know. And I'd be lucky to have a few moments like that, and um it as rare as they are when they happen, you just gotta enjoy them. It's it's a moment.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Awesome. Okay. What one song you'd like to hear live once more.
SPEAKER_00Don't change.
SPEAKER_04You can never get past that one.
SPEAKER_01That took you that took you by surprise.
SPEAKER_02I think I'll go something different. I'd actually I'd love to see them perform kick live again to to because it's such a when you see kick when they perform kick or not out of that whole Wembley concert. If you just watch one song out of that whole concert, if you watch Kick from beginning to end, it is almost like a film clip in itself. I think people forget the power in XS had on stage too, that they weren't just good, they were loud, they were they could really throw it in your face. They knew how to rock as well. It wasn't just uh, you know, like the cold chisels or whatever. Inexcess had that in them as well, which is what Jimmy Barnes saw. That's why he did good times with them, you know. Like um, I think I think kick, I'd love to see something powerful like that. I think that song, that song um has always been a favorite of mine. But I think as I've got older and say I'm at the gym and that comes on my playlist, as soon as I hear the start of the the kick, it's like, oh my god, we're going next level now. It's a song that lifts you massively. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's what everyone needs more of is stuff to lift you up.
SPEAKER_04But um lifting and powerful and positive and energizing. Yeah. I I like wearing my kick t-shirt. Sometimes you kick, sometimes you get kicked. Yeah. My little pink t-shirt, yeah. I got me kicked shirt on there. And then you're just going, don't change, because you get to hear that nearly every week.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. But then I get to hear hear it at its at its finest quality if uh if they're playing it. So and and that's another song that evolved over time, you know. They they did a a few little things, and uh on the odd occasion, you see in the film clip in the middle, quiet bit where you see John with his left hand stabbed through Gary's armpit with the drumstick. I see them do it a couple of times in concert, and I was like, wow, you know, like just that that attention to detail that was in the film clip, you know, like and they both have a they both have a laugh. Gary lifts his arm up, stick drops, and away they go again. But yeah, it's just to me, it's it's it's their anthem. So yeah, it's a it's a great song.
SPEAKER_04All right, well, thank you guys. That's been wonderful. So, thoughts on the legacy as we approach this fifth year? Do you think it will just keep going? Do you think management are doing a good job with what they're rolling out? I mean, we did hear that uh Murphy left a list of um things to be done. There was going to be talk of a musical, wasn't there? And maybe this is the ballet. I don't know. What what's your thoughts? What else do you think they could do?
SPEAKER_02I like I like how lately we've been getting a lot of these um video clips, which we've all seen before, but they've been re-redone, sparkled up a little bit. I think that's good that they're they're doing things like that. Um, it seems to be a lot of the British stuff though, not a lot of early Australian stuff or things like that. It'd be nice to see them throw something from countdown on there and and and make that look good. They they could always do a better job, but I suppose management and that they want to make money somehow. And I guess when it's a band that really isn't around anymore, it's hard to make money. They they need to find other ways to make money by selling t-shirts and promotions and and that. But um, I never think they'll ever get the the treatment they deserve. They won't. That's that's up to us.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're making the money more so with the fact that um they're play getting played in films more so now as well, which is bloody awesome to hear. So there must be a lot of money in the royalty part of it, and that doesn't really take a lot of effort from them at all, really, does it?
SPEAKER_01There's got to be a sporting a sporting movie that features Kick as the mate song in the movie. It's so ripe for a sporting show or a sporting movie. Um I know I've heard people say that before and still waiting to see where you know the there's some sort of I don't know if it's baseball or or what or soccer or whatever. Um, but like the World Cup near kick would have been an absolute, wouldn't it? Song.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I have I have heard them play kick a few times when we've been watching the the um the fully over here, yeah. Like state of origin and stuff, but yeah, not not on a national international level. Okay, for what advice would you give in XS fans that are just discovering the band?
SPEAKER_01Started album one and press play.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'd say you're very lucky because you've got all this YouTube and all this stuff to access and get to watch it all, where we we used to have to tough it out the hard way. Do your research, listen, and and and make your own mind up. It's it's you know, if you find you're tapping your feet and and you you're getting into the groove, well, that's what happens. It's it's it's inevitable. It's very hard not to like in excess, you know.
SPEAKER_04It's um and we and we're looking having things like Facebook and Instagram and TikTok. I mean, Paul's always sending me a TikTok video of um some something you found that some guy's been talking about in excess. And it just opens your ears that you know the new generation are involved and they they haven't forgotten in excess. There was a guy the other day um who is uh he's in a band, I think, isn't he, Paul? Did you send me that one? And he it they was asking him um you know which band he liked against another band, and in excess was there all the way until the very end. He missed it.
SPEAKER_00And he went with a bloody cure. Seriously.
SPEAKER_04Seriously. I mean more of a good band, but not against the in excess, not at all. Oh, all right. Well, I think we've all done really well. We've done over two hours here. Um, I can't thank you enough for your time. Speaking to you two off and now on air, and when we get together, oh my gosh, we can't wait. We finally got it done.
SPEAKER_02We finally got it done.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if everyone knows Paul Paul was um very sick and he lost his voice, and uh yeah, and then we lost him a couple of hours ago, didn't we? Glenn, we're like, I don't think this is gonna happen, Paul's gone missing.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, I think you'll get about a good hour's worth of quality stuff from what Glenn said, and probably about 48 seconds from me.
SPEAKER_02So well, it's it's good timing all around because my phone's just a gun.
SPEAKER_04Thanks again. Um really appreciate your time.
SPEAKER_01No, that was mad. That was awesome.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01Absolute pleasure, thank you.
SPEAKER_04I think we covered everything, did we?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, pretty much. I think so. I wrote I wrote some notes this morning, but I've I'm glad you did it that way because yeah, it's so much easier.
SPEAKER_04Well, did that explain? I I've got it recently. Um I mean yeah, yeah, awesome.
SPEAKER_01Except for where you made me cry. I didn't like that bit.
SPEAKER_05I don't know how held it together.
SPEAKER_02I need to go have a counselling session now.
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