cONSCIOUSNESS pT 1

dR. aLEX vISITS hEMAN aND yOGI tO dISCUSS dIFFERENT lEVELS oF cONSCIOUSNESS, sTAY wOKE! 

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

It's like a it's really it's like a superpower.

SPEAKER_00 0:03

It really is. Drake, you can you like grab one of these, would you throw it up in the air and catch it in your mouth? Oh no, that's one thing I cannot do. Wow. Beautiful. That's pretty cool. I actually didn't even think I was gonna get that. Oh, it was really good. I was so surprised. For sure. There was no way this is going to my mouth right now. That's way too high in the air.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

No, it works cool. You know what? There's nothing more exciting to me than a uh a soft chocolate chip cookie. I'm just gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

See I love the Woolies chocolate chip cookies. Yeah. The cocoa and the Subway ones is not desirable. Okay. Like arguably Subway's best cookie is the macadamia nut cookie. Really? Uh-huh. Okay, so you sound like the cookie expert.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Well, if you want why if you want that one, go for it. I'm not gonna have the cookies. I was that one.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

I was that one time, right? Believe it or not. There were three cookies.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

I was happy with the meatballs. You have it with the meatballs already. Subway You Fresh, man. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm your humble gracious and honored host. Grapes. So what are those called? Those are not grapes, though. Those are called something else, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:14

These are called candied hearts.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Yeah, they taste like candy. And they're good for your heart, obviously, right? That's why they call them candy hearts. It's good for your body. Nice, man. Look, we also have a really special, awesome, cool, amazing, talented, knowledgeable guest. Mr. Alex, how are you, man?

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yes, I'm great. I'm great. Thank you for having me on. We're honored to have to have the on the show. That's really good. Really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

This is exciting. We've been building up the anticipation having you on the show talking about what we're gonna talk about for a while. Okay. Um, I think this started at the end of um Holly. Yes, Holly's episode. And um she's like, Yeah, you gotta talk to Alex, and he has a lot of powerful stuff, and it's cool, right? Everybody says that. Everyone's like, hey man, I got this person, I want this person to get on the show. But then we started connecting via text in the WhatsApp chat, and yeah, as soon as I saw some of those messages, I'm like, all right, this is gonna be a powerful show. Yep, yep, yep. So let's get into it. Let's get into it. What are we talking about? Alright, well, absolutely, absolutely. I'm I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Yeah, introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Yes, well, my name's Alexander Oxford. Now, uh a lot of the times people ask me, what do you call yourself? What do you do? Yeah, and um for me that's it it's it's an interesting thing because I I do things a little bit differently to to a lot of people in regards to my profession and what I've chosen to go down, the path that I've gone down. Um so you can call me a neuropractitioner, a mind-body practitioner. Um, and um I'll go through a journey of the things that I have done, and then you can decipher for yourself. But I like to call myself now a coherence architect. And um you'll um understand more and more on why I've chosen that title. Wow um as we go down uh the rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

I was gonna ask, like what do you I you said a co a coherent architect? I don't know what that means. Like in I guess in gen generic terms. Okay. People call themselves um coaches, healers, guides, etc. What would you consider yourself in I guess in that line of category?

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Well, if you're looking at in that line of category, it's it's more about coaching and helping people. Yeah, you can call it life coach. I I don't like to use that title because it's been what's the word?

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Um it's frequently used, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:54

It's almost worn out. Yeah, it's but it's used in the way that it's influenced by gym culture. Gym culture, not just that, but it hasn't really it doesn't go deep diving into the the individual psych. It it it's almost like disconnects people from the to who they are. Okay, and um and that's why I don't like to use it. You know, it it's probably a correct term because we're actually uh coaching the person's life, and we want to go deep diving and connect them more and more with the who.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

And would that be because so say said life coach is coaching Jimmy, and said life coach has an abnormally large ego, that is gonna bleed through his ethics and morals onto said person who's being coached and influence him the wrong way.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Yeah, and that's a big one when you when you when you talked about ego, um, because ego is something that we have to go through and learn and be able to tame because you go through ego, you're gonna mess things up because ego is one of the biggest because ego is is is led by your mind, and in your mind is where things get messed up and you'll learn more and more why we get messed up, why there's so much of a spectrum in in in especially today's society, okay. Uh, because people lead through their mind instead of the heart architecture, which is something that's amazing with what the Heart Math Institute is doing, and all through you know, all through biblical times, prophets, and things like that, all these people were talking about the heart, and now science is going through that's like wow, our first organ is the heart before the brain, yeah, the first, and it's got the most electromagnetic frequency that's coming out of it, yeah, it's which expands six feet around us. Wow, it sends messages to the brain through the vagus nerve, 80% way more than the brain gives it to the heart. This is huge because the prophets have been saying this, like a rumble in the chest, a rumble in the tummy, yeah, right? The single eye, which Jesus was talking about, you know, that single eye, can the kingdom of heaven. Yeah, that's that oneness, and this is about your vision without getting interference.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

A really, a really, really good example of this. So these makeup artists got a bunch of people and sent them in for a fake job interview. They put some bruises and like, you know, scarring on each one of the f people's faces, and just before they sent them into the um interview, they removed the scarring. And these people went into the interview thinking that they had scarring on their face, and in turn, their whole energy that got put out about them was thinking that the interviewer was going to discriminate against them because of what they had on their face.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

And that was their mind leading the interview. Wow. Okay, and this is a huge thing. This is where the the mind influences so many things. Right. But most of the times, if the if the mind doesn't follow the true architecture, which is coming from follow your heart. We keep we keep saying this all the time. Instinctively, we say that follow your heart, right? Once we don't do that and we lead by the mind, we we actually mess ourselves up. And that and this is where coherence is about being coherent within the message within yourself, right? And your journey is an individual journey, it's not about comparing yourself with everybody else, and a lot of times people do, but what when we grow up, we're comparing ourselves with the with our hairstyle, our everything, the way we this person's wearing this, and then that person's not wearing this, and I'm just grateful I didn't get caught up in that. Um, but you could see it, yeah, and it really was messing a lot of people up that this person had this bike, and this person didn't have this bike, so this person thinks it's not as good as this person. And it's really, really amazing. And that's all you're leading through the mind.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

It's amazing how again, your mind, your heart, all those different things, they're when they're with inside of us. But yet you could have them thinking two opposite things, right? People say, uh follow your your gut over your mind, right? Um, and it's just so funny. Like, think about that for a second. Like, how in your in your within yourself you can have your mind telling you one thing, but your heart is telling you something different.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

And that's and that's got to do with from day zero to now, we have lots of influences, we go through lots of influences, so lots of relationships, situations, but we interact with people's situations and things. And when we do that, we experience so many emotions, and then those emotions, the way we interpret emotions is a big thing. Like when the mind interprets the emotion, we then can follow the path of the emotion, which becomes one of the most again destructive paths that we can go through because we're we're looking for the SOB who did this emotions to us, right? Right, right, right. Alright, right. Or we can even get to a path where now we're justifying these emotions through beliefs, and we create limiting beliefs for ourselves. And then we have these limiting beliefs. Again, we're looking, we're we're searching for the SOB who did this to us, right? We're looking for the outside.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Ceilings, yeah, mental ceilings.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Yeah, exactly. We we've we've closed ourselves in the limitation of the negative emotion, we say negative emotion because we're leading through it, we're not getting those emotions to guide us, which is the emotional guidance system, is all about guiding us, right? Not living through it, because that's now an incoherent resonance that's not you.

SPEAKER_03 10:08

Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Okay, the emotion is just there to keep you on the path. Now, if you're all over the place, you've got limiting beliefs, negative emotions, and you've got conflicts now, because now conflict is now an interesting thing. Because as we're going through these emotional experiences, the bigger the emotional experience, what we end up doing is start to protect ourselves. This is our mind. Our mind starts to protect, and then that protection creates what we call parts. Okay, now now this part comes out whenever we go through a similar situation that we went through in that trauma. When we go through this part comes out, you see in a lot of incoherency in people. People can actually all of a sudden this new personality comes out when oh, I have to go to a party and I'm freaking out, right? And this whole new person it's like this part now comes out. Now we be and these parts are born from these significant emotional events, and now we're and this is a sign of incoherency within us. So here we are living our lives, and this is where the spectrum lies, because there's a spectrum of limiting beliefs, negative emotions, parts. Now that a lot of people have lots of parts, you know, so much so I remember when I first this is like 26 years ago, I um I finished doing uh my my master practitioner and NLP and hypnotherapy, time on therapy back then, and um I remember someone uh reached out to me online and I and I and I had a Tony Robbins moment. Everyone knows what who Tony Robbins is, right? Now I remember Tony Robbins in in 1998. I did his Unlimited Power within the firewalk experience. Right now, this is when I started um changing my my life around, and he had an experience where he was working with a lady, and I can't remember, she had multiple personalities. She had like 20 or so, I can't remember. So I remember someone reaching out to me, yeah, and this lady was risking her life um reaching out because she was born in a from a satanic cult, you know. And I don't want to go into details because it's it was it's pretty messed up, yeah. Um so I I agreed to to work with her, and what what I got I had no idea what I was getting myself into, okay? So when uh we we met in a an exclusive place where she she wouldn't be found out and things like that, right? So um went there and when I was working with her, this is where I had my Tony Robbins moment, there was about 23 multiple personalities that came out, and they were all there purely to protect her from the things that she had from the from the acts that she had to perform in this cult. And she was no from from from the day zero from being a baby. Wow. And that was that was really like it was that was one of the toughest breakthroughs. It was in the beginning of my career.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

Yeah, that would have been that would have been an interesting one in your first first day on the job situation.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

It's like wow. Um however, you know, we we had to keep three because she couldn't get out of it. Okay. Um, and um I'm not sure how she went after that, but um uh she had to keep three based on she had to keep three personalities based on the acts that she had to protect her. So I looked at I had to look for ecology, I had to look at what she wanted, not what I wanted. Um, and that's a big thing. You know, when when we're working with people, we need to really, really be in the coherence of what they want, not what you want.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Just curious, like uh uh she said you said she started with twelve excuse me. Twenty-three. So she how did you get rid of the the the twenty-five?

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Well it's not about getting rid of them, it's about where do they go finding how to integrate back into the her her whole her wholeness because they were all coming from her, every single one of them. When they found the internet, when they found that they were once part of this and they're here to protect they can all work together, and they're all agreed that all we need now is these three, and they're all integrated, and it's a it's a pretty magical moment seeing the integration. And it's hard to explain what a person goes through when they're integrating, like you see when they're integrating parts, like people feel like look like they're exploding, right? Imagine all these personalities. It was a pretty amazing moment um uh for me, especially in the beginning of Yeah, I was gonna say the beginning of your career. The beginning of my career, and I thought, well, now I know what Tony was talking about when he was uh sharing that experience. Uh and um, but that was that was pretty pretty amazing, and um, wow. Pretty amazing. But um, but that's part of the inco that's incoherency. This is and all through my career, all I could see is that the more coherent you are within yourself, the more you pave your path. And that's why I call it coherence architecture, is because we're finding out what things are static to you with your resonance that you're putting out. That's what we mean by static, that's what we mean by incoherence. So the more we can focus on okay, this is what I want to achieve in life, that single eye, yeah, that's what I want to achieve in life. Now I just need to align my full self without external interference getting in my way. So instead of seeing the external, you need you need to start getting to an adaptive part of being able to utilize language, to utilize your state management, to utilize all these things so you can actually interact with your external world, but then know when to retreat back into yourself because you do get influenced. As much as you think you can I am this being, right? Right, you're not we're never that.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

We we get influence easily, and I just I'm just looking this up for our listeners as well as myself. Yes. A lot of people out there are smart, but I need to educate myself about I'm looking up the word coherence, yes, and this is in the Miriam Webster's online dictionary, yep, and it says the first definition it says here logically ordered or integrated, yes, consistent. It also says having clarity or intelligibility, understandable, yeah, and lastly here having the quality of holding together or coherent, cohesive. Cohesive. So when you're saying you're this you are a uh coherent architect, yeah, you are in a sense uh uh coaching people on how to hold it together, how to hold themselves in in a consistent form or st stable across, or like you said, like not having those uh external influences, how to how to just be themselves.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

Be themselves without without getting caught up with social pressure, and yeah, exactly, peer pressure. People say no, that's crazy. Okay, well I had that all that rest of my life.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I don't I don't I don't put on a face when I'm in a social situation. No, you do, you just don't realise it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Yeah, yeah. And um so that that that's what it's all about. And if you have a really look at you know a lot of uh like scientists in regards to what they've done with coherency with light. Like you've all heard of light waves, right? Now, who remembers those uh those old light globes, the the incandescent ones, the ones with the little squiggly light, right? Now you get a 60 watt light bulb that might light up a room. Okay, that's scattered, it's not coherent light, it's scattered waves. Yeah, yeah. So what they did, then what a you know, you all know what a laser is. What a laser is is that they get those waves and they put them into one direction. So they're coherent. Coherent, co coordinated, so now concentrated. So all these waves are coherent with each other. Right. So what what happened to the 60 watts? How far did that 60 watts go? They that it went to the moon and back. That same 60 watts. Now someone was telling me that that with that with a hundred watts, now the hundred watt bulb, when they put it coherent, they're cutting through steel. I'm like, whoa, wow, this that's why we say light laser beam focused. You probably heard of that. Yeah, and and um anybody that you know there's different uh ways that we communicate, we communicate through visual, auditory, and kinesthetic. For the people who are kinesthetic and they all like to feel things, when we get a grip on life, right? When we're getting a grip, it's like being focused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, so that's where um a lot of the time, and and I say this, I say this because one of my had a I had a client in in uh uh about 20 odd years ago in Adelaide where she came up and said, Our boss is is stressing us out, he doesn't feel us, we feel stressed all the time, and uh it's just it's just the drag. Now, if you haven't listened to the words that Rushi was saying, everything was about feeling and um how she feels and stressed and things like that. And I'm like, what's the boss telling you? The boss is saying you gotta stay focused on the target, right? You gotta have a clear vision of what you want, right? Right, and that this was stressing this whole uh this whole group out because they were all kinesthetic. No, they were they were working for the Heart Foundation, I think I think it was at the time, right? So they were all str they were all kinesthetic and the boss is visual, right? And I said to her, Well, if the boss came up to you and said, Look, get a handle on things, you know. Do you think you can get a handle? She goes, Yes, that would be much better. Now, if you have a look at what we've just said, or who had heard what we just said, is we said the same thing, right? Okay, but for her, visual is not coherent. Yeah, okay. And this is where by understanding these just these little intricacies, we can communicate and understand each other without hallucinating too much that someone's attacking us, because a lot of times it feels that way, and and don't get me wrong, I I feel like that sometimes. You know, we know myself and Holly, we can start getting it start start getting at each other. It's like, hang on a second, we're saying the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Saying the same thing, but okay, yeah, the different. That's so interesting how that works.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

But does that make sense in regards to what coherence architecture means? When the architecture is about the person, what is it that you're trying to achieve in life? What is it that that that you truly truly want? And you know what? A lot of people don't know.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

I think that's the biggest thing, right? Well, because there's so much outside influence. Yeah. It's everywhere. Yeah. I you walk down the street and you can be influenced by somebody else's conversation. Yeah. Even though you're in your own world, yeah, doing your own thing. Um, again. It's so it's You said the other day, uh, re reality is an echo of your internal state. Yeah. And this is that makes sense. Yeah. Um why do it why do external consequences exist independent of how you feel?

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Awesome. What a great question. Yeah. This is a great question. Because a lot of the times we do this, okay. And I don't I don't just see this in the mind, I see this in the spine as well. Okay. Because a lot of people think I do a workout, now I should be fit. I've got I've got a healthy meal, I should be healthy now, right? Right. I've got my spine. Unchecked once now. My all the nervous system is communicating to the rest of my body for the rest of my life. All good, right? And it's the same thing with our minds, right? So we have the as I was saying before, we accumulate so many limiting beliefs, negative emotions. We we have our values which may not match the values that we want to grow out there. Okay, so we've got these values that may be conflicting the things that we want, okay? But negative emotions, limiting beliefs parts uh what's happening at the we say unconscious level where we've programmed ourselves. Okay, so now we want a different life. Okay. Um we want to as you I think you the example that you you you were giving, which was great, is that here I am, we're walking down the street, okay. I'm now focusing on being calm. Okay, so we meditate, right? We can even meditate 20 20 minutes, 30 minutes, and we're feeling at peace. Like we're feeling our heartbeat, we're feeling our heart coherence coming out. Yeah, and we go out there, we go, oh my god, it happened again, right? Now that reaction, that reaction is showing us the echo. Oh my god, it's happened again. We haven't removed that limiting belief. So it's the echo is now feedback, it's not failure, it's feedback. Hey, there's something else that I need to work on right now.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

So that's an awesome question to ask.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

What's gonna break me out of that loop?

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

And so things that stop you from being able to be uh have have clear thought or even that calmness, what you put in your body is a big one, I think. Yep. Um and both in our ears, in our eyes, eyes, skin and down the mouth, even what we eat, and down the mouth as well, absolutely. Even what we eat because your stomach, your gut health reflects how healthy your mind is, and then your mind reflects how connected you are.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Absolutely huge, huge. Well, and that's one of the things you mentioned before we started, off before we recorded, and in that um, I guess just the fasting and the effects of fasting.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Absolutely, absolutely, and and that's a great thing. And um see a lot of the times we we can overfeed ourselves, yeah, easy. And I don't know about you, but I always in my life, I always um food was my comfort. It was that that was my drug, okay, and it was my best friend. Yeah, okay, and um that was a a huge thing in my life. You asked my cousin, he used to see me, I'm eating Tim Tams and cream, right? He keeps reminding me of that, oh I've got a tub of peanut butter, I'm just eating it, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:32

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

And I say, look, I do some of those things sometimes. But um, for me it was a it was a comfort thing, okay. Even when I transformed, and you know, from the age 12 to the age 16, I I transformed so much, and um I became Buff, and you know, my nickname was Arnie, you know. I even got the flap top like the commando, right? Everyone remembers that that movie. So um, so with that, um how much was I smashing my gut? And I know that because I I still suffer the consequences now of that. So when I discovered uh fasting, it's like okay, what what what's this all about?

SPEAKER_04 25:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

So what and with me, I like to go do deep dives. Okay. You know, I don't like just oh yeah, I'm just gonna do it, right? I like to deep dive, I like to talk to people, and so it it took me a few years of deep diving and research to find out okay, wow, this autophagy thing sounds pretty amazing and makes a lot of sense um based on um on the research that I've done with the body and the mind and the spine and and the great divine. Okay. And uh so what did you learn from the fast? So what I learned when I actually went and did my I did my first I I started fasting in the way that it was recommended, firstly doing intermittent fasting. And we all heard of this, it's just it's a it's a many is that like 12 12 hours or something? Well, I was doing I started with 16-8. So 16 hours fasting, eight hours window of of eating, and I'm like, wow, this is really good. I I felt good in my workouts, yeah, yeah. And um then um I thought oh I'll go a little bit longer. Okay, so I did up to 20 hours. Okay, then I did as you as you were mentioned before, the the one meal day, and I I was feeling it, I was feeling great. I wanted to extend it. Then I looked at some of the autophagy um uh research that they've done, and it's like 48 hours your testosterone for for men goes up 2,000 percent. Wow, growth hormone, 1300, and I'm like, what? This is this is mad, like this is because you're not eating, because you're not eating, you're not yeah, and your body's focusing purely on recovery. The one thing in today's society that if you see around you, there's more and more recovery stations, recovery zones. Yeah, there is because we're understanding that we have been so focusing on exercise, work hard, hardly any sleep, and things like that, yeah, that we overstressed ourselves. We end up in a final flight. Yeah, okay, because what are we doing? We're leading with the mind. Yeah, okay, we're doing all these things because we're leading with the mind, and the body's just left behind in pain, tortured, yeah, for sure. Okay, completely, and and and what happens with the fascia, I'll talk about fascia in a moment. The fascia just wraps up and turns into concrete, and we're wondering why. I'm doing all these things, I'm eating good and all this stuff, and I'm exercising, and we're not doing recovery. Okay, and this is and that's where the bringing up the fasting, that's just it stops. You're stopping your digestive system, it's a big stress that we give, especially the the way we eat these days, all this processed food, even when we think it's organic, it's still processed in it.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Right. That's why the the I've I I I rave about it all the time. The only vegetable I eat is broccoli. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't or spinach, I don't eat any other because it doesn't do anything. If I'm to get it, it actually doesn't do anything. Yeah, carrots, amid squash, corn. Corn corn doesn't even digest, it just goes through comes out the other end. Oh no, for sure. We've all got it.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

When someone throws up, what is it? It's always corn and carrots, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

It doesn't sit there for sure. Um where does where does uh objective reality begin and where does internal inter interpretation end?

SPEAKER_01 28:29

When you say objective, um so you're saying being the observer. Yeah. Okay. It's awesome. That's when you step out of yourself. Yeah. Okay, and that's what we call in NLP perceptual positions. Okay, and it's a really important thing to do. Okay. Is when you step out of yourself, you'll start seeing some of the behaviors that you're doing that can be not good. It's a it's a really important step to do. It's getting dissociated, but not staying there. And this is where uh this is where it becomes dangerous. Not staying there. Because a lot of people they get disassociated from their bodies.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

And for some reason if it feels good, like you're your your head's in the clouds, okay? And uh now it's like this is good, I'm gonna stay here. And now you can get into a delusional reality. Because now you're not not really caring too much of the consequences of the behaviors because you're not really because you have to feel your problems. Yeah, for sure. So you've got to go objective to see what you're doing, then you've got to become subjective again, because if you're not subjective within your life, then you don't know how much it's affecting your body. And I see this a lot with people's uh.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Do you think it's because people um become objective or are observing themselves through heavy substance abuse and not just in one's completely sober state of mind? And that's a big one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

That's a big one.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

That's what that that's obviously the most uh disassociating with a substance, and therefore, yeah, because you're high, you're just thinking about you're like, oh, this is just what the drug's doing for me. I don't actually know that I'm disassociated from my body right now. It's a big thing. And then when you come back and you're like, I'm everything's normal again. What? What are all my problems? I need another hit, I need another hit. Oh, I want to go and have another beer. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

See uh it makes sense. And and I'm I'm very grateful that I never went down that path, even for painkillers. Like when I from the age of 12 when I was debilitated with with pain, yeah, and this is how my journey started. Um I remember we were playing, we were well, we're about to play squash. Okay, I did one hit and my whole body just froze. You know, I remember my the expression in my friend's face. He thought I was possessed because I I went white and I was still or couldn't move. And he's like, We were 12 years old. He's like, What's going on? He rushed to get the teacher and they all picked me up and put me in the back of the station wagon because back then we could do that. They took me home and put me on the um put me on the couch, and uh I had this uh massive existential uh problem, which was how do I go to the bathroom? My mum's gonna kill me if I do it here on the couch. If this paint doesn't kill me, my mum's gonna kill me. I had that in my head, right? Could you talk at least? I could talk, okay. I could talk, but I just couldn't move. I'm like, what do I do? So somehow I got the strength to get myself off the couch. I didn't ask my mum, she's a little bit arthritis. So I was still being considerate there, okay? My dad's at work, there's no one at no one else at home, okay. So somehow I got myself on all fours. Now I at this by the time I got myself on all fours, I have I was debilitated in pain, but at the same time, all these chemical rushes that came into the body was just amazing. I was cracking up laughing, okay, because all the nitric oxide that just released.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Oh, so you took painkillers.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

No, no, this is your body's the body actually. I said no because I didn't mean to get offered our painkillers at this stage, right? So here I am crawling to go to the bathroom, and I had this amazing experience because this is when my I I had a massive paradigm shift. I said to myself, that's it, I'm taking control over my life, I'm getting a strong back, I'm gonna do whatever it takes, I'm gonna find whoever I have to find, I'm gonna take control of this body. Okay, that and that was as I was walking to go to the bathroom, and I finally got there and came back, and then when my dad got home, we we went to the hospital and um as my parents would do. And um the solution to the problem was painkillers.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

And I said, um I said, I don't really want them. Yeah, I I want to find my way through the pain.

SPEAKER_03 32:58

Okay. At 12 years old. At 12 years old.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Like I'm very I'm very proud of that of that little guy, right? But at the same time, my my focus was I really wanted to know what I did to be able to get to this stage of my life and what I need to do to get not just to get out of it, but to be in control of my body again and control of my life. And that was my mission. And did you find the answer? I did. I found and I'm still am. Okay, but look, I I never had that debilitation. It took me eight years of on and off debilitation. Okay, but the my first mentor uh was my uncle, okay, and he was talking about fascia back then, he was talking about muscles. Uh he was getting into these spots that made me cry a few times, you know, three times a week he was seeing me. Uh, but he got me on my feet and started teaching me, and it was that's why we he was my first mentor. He started teaching me about muscles and fascia and what they're trying to do to help the spine. And we're not here to loosen muscles, we're here to help them. We're not here to just loosen fascia, we're here to mobilize it and find out why it's like this. And for for him, it was a for me, it was that makes sense, but he's not trying to stop my body doing what it's doing, he's trying to help my body doing what it's doing. Yeah, okay, and that's the difference that makes a difference, yeah, because a lot of the times people are trying to stop, like even when people come to my practice to get their spine checked, their their main priority at first is I want to get rid of this pain. Okay, which is not a bad thing, okay. It's not a bad thing to have that as a as a as a spike, yeah. Um, but if that's the sole purpose, then it can mess us up. Okay, because pain is a necessary force that our body gives as necessary communication from the body to the mind to for us to become more aware of the things that we're doing and not doing to take control of our of our of our body. And and and you gotta think. You gotta think as as we as we're thinking about thinking that the two main things that that really really exist in our lives, if you really have a deep dive, are our cognitive function and our ability to move. Those two things. If we master those two things, that's our freedom right there. Yeah, our ability to think and our ability to move. Now you lose one of those. And I've and I've been I went down that path when I look when I and that and that was really distressing. Yeah, for sure. Um that makes sense. But those two things if we can become more and more aware, yeah, uh, and the questions to ask, you know, the questions that we ask lead to quality of answers. And then so therefore we need to ask ourselves quality questions. And one of the biggest questions that changed my career was this question here, and this is because I I wasn't just a mind practitioner, I was a body practitioner as well, and I still am. I still work the mind and body. Okay. Um I've always asked myself this question. Um, when I'm doing what I'm doing, what is it that I'm doing when I'm doing that? See?

SPEAKER_03 36:24

You sound like a rapper, man. I'm doing what I'm doing, and when I'm doing something. But what is it that I'm doing? What is it that I'm doing? What are you doing when you're doing something?

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Yeah, what is it that I'm doing when I'm doing it? So before I could even ask answer that question, right, it led me to another question. Well, what's the body doing? So when I'm feeling and when I'm palpating, what am I actually feeling? When I'm feeling what I'm feeling, right? What is it that I'm what's what's really happening? So you had to go deep to a deep dive, and you're looking at okay, look, when when the body cuts it, when you cut the body, the body immediately goes into healing. It doesn't, you know, if if that cut is too big and it doesn't heal, what do we do? We put a bandage or we put stitches, we help it by putting an external force. Yeah, okay. Now it's the same thing everywhere else. Now if the spine, something's happening in the spine, a muscle will contract. Now, why does a muscle contract? Because it's bored. Okay, okay, or no, a muscle will contract to bring two points together. So this is what I had to really think about um in in regards to this, is like if the if the muscles contracted, then why would I want to relax it? Yeah, that makes no sense. That goes against it's like here's a cut and it's healing, but everything is tense. Let's let's relax it. Yeah, let's kind of open the wound more. And it's the same thing when two points are not aligned, the body's gonna attempt to to to to realign that, and the only way it's gonna do that is through its muscles and also fascia. So then I'm like, okay, so if I feel a tight muscle, my aim is okay, well, it's bringing two points together, we need to help it. So now my whole techniques have changed because we're not here to massage things out, we're here to push and place pressure in the same direction in which the body is attempting to correct itself because the magic happens in the body, not in our touch. The touch is only there to assist the body, right? All the all the blueprint of healing and and that happens without thinking, but it's where it has that that struggle that we need to help each other out, okay. And that and that's where you know that coherence of what is a body attempting to do for itself. Now be I became a way more coherent practitioner, and I started doing that, and my techniques went from the the old way of of what we've been taught, you know, one hour, two hours, okay, and that used to get me in my guts like this. This does not make any sense to me, to this only takes a few minutes, like five, ten minutes, I'm done, right? And I was this close, like so close to just quitting. And I and I met a dear friend of mine, Tito, I was on his uh um podcast just recently, uh a good friend of mine, Tito, and um he looks at me in the eye. He goes, You can't quit now, I just found you. You can't, you can't do this. I'm like, well, all this other stuff is just fluff. He goes, and he and he looks at me even clearer in the eyes, and he says to me, just do what you do. And I'm like, first I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, just just do what you do, don't worry about the other stuff. He goes, Come down the road, I'll show you how we do things in two minutes. And we've got people lining up. And I'm like, what? A whole new world was exposed to me. A whole new world was exposed. So I just did what I did. My practice turned around so quickly, I had no idea where I was all these years. Okay, and and that was from the quality of the questions that I asked. And um interesting. That was like one question that's led to another question, then led to the action. And this is the most important thing is that your thought needs to lead to action. Okay, because if it doesn't lead to action, then it's just hypothetical and delusional the times like we've got the answers to everything, and how do you action? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Right, how do you do it? How do you do it? You said the other day you said everything is you, yeah. Um, and if everything is a reflection of you, are other people just extensions of your mind?

SPEAKER_01 41:01

What a great question, yeah. Now, everybody's has their own autonomy, yeah? Everybody's got their own autonomy, however, how I perceive you, how I perceive you, I guarantee you is not how you perceive yourself.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

And that's where it's all me. So when I have a relationship with you, or a relationship with you, or a relationship with Holly, or especially with your partner, you've got to always dig deep to find out who are you having a relationship with, the the being in your mind that you created, or the person next to you. Okay, and that's where the power of question is about communication, and you know, after when when you're with someone for for for many years, you get to a point where you do clash a bit more because a lot of the honeymoon state is gone. So you do, and this is where the good stuff happens because you start really getting into who is this person that I'm truly with, and um, and that's where we can delude ourselves, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

So when I say everything is you, the way I perceive you is my perception of you, and that's why it's so important to just off the bat, even in friendships, just be yourself. Yep. You have to just you have to be yourself. Be be yourself, don't take that, don't take influence from social pressure or peer pressure or any of it because it's not that face that you're withholding every single day is going to destroy you because it gets heavier and heavier and harder to put on.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Because then it's like, who am I?

SPEAKER_00 42:33

Yeah. But you lose yourself in the process too, and you have to then find yourself again.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

And in the relationships and when you have kids, you can lose yourself.

unknown 42:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

In your business in business and work, you can lose yourself and you come home and you then you have to do the the the dad stuff, and the and and and by the time you've done all that, it's time to go to bed. Yeah, and you don't have that downtime of am I no, who am I? You know, am I serving the people I love in the way that I want to serve them? Because that's a really important thing. Or have I just adapted and not doing the things that I truly am capable of doing because I'm just tired and exhausted and have no idea what I'm doing anymore. Yeah, because we can lose ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

And and does and does that remove personal responsibility from others if everything is your own projection?

SPEAKER_01 43:20

From others? Yeah. Well, depending on on what you're looking for, like for me, I always look at where can I take more responsibility for myself, yeah, more so than them. And if if if that person doesn't align with my coherency, they either disappe they disappear from my existence. It just happens normally. You don't even have to you know, and you because you're asserting yourself every day that you are yourself, you're asserting yourself.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

And as you and as you assert yourself, some people just don't like it, so they'll just disappear.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

I noticed this a lot last year because me and my uh best friend we decided that. We'd just be really selfish. Like super, super selfish. Like we wouldn't, we wouldn't put ourselves above anybody else. Yeah. Um, I mean, yeah, we wouldn't put anybody else above ourselves, we would just put ourselves as the most important thing to us, and then obviously God, but in doing so, you're you're just constantly only focusing on yourself, you're gonna improve yourself drastically, and the people that are stopping you from doing that will just they'll disappear. They'll show them they'll they'll show themselves the door, and you don't even need to break that off or anything like that. It'll just happen naturally.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

I'm your humble, gracious, and honored host. Alex, again, thank you. Yogi Bear, because I'm smarter than the average bear. Yeah. Until next time. Thanks, guys.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

That was awesome. Sweet. Peace.

unknown 44:53

Peace.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

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SPEAKER_02 45:00

Yes.