Special Bonus: Protect Grove City Initiative

Steve Talks with Jen and Patty about the Grove City Initiative to protect Grove City from Data Centers.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're listening to a special edition of The Grove Guys, the show where four guys from Grove City talk honestly about community and what it means to be a man right now. In this special episode, they hand off the mic. Jen Belt and Patty Spillman are here to talk about the community consent amendment and the campaign behind it. Protect Grove City. The question on the table is who gets a say on the biggest developments coming to town. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

I, for uh transparency purposes, I am also part of that Protect Grow City uh effort. So we're gonna talk to you a little bit about what's going on and how we are uh trying to stand up here. So uh, you know, the the big deal is we got a 310-acre data center uh right outside Patty's property line uh that they want to put in our city, right? And we've been able to uh take some some steps, but now we're at a point where we feel like we need something permanent to make sure that the people have a voice. And we're gonna talk a little bit about that uh here in just a second. So uh Jen, you want to take a second to introduce yourself, and then maybe Patty, you can you can do the same.

SPEAKER_05 1:56

Absolutely. I am Jen Belt, and I'm actually not a resident of Grove City. I live in Orient, just uh just down the street from the proposed data center, the Rentro Data Center um site in Pleasant Township.

SPEAKER_04 2:13

Hi, my name's Patty Spillman. I'm not a resident of Grove City, I'm Pleasant Township. Our farm is directly across the road from the proposed data center site. Um probably not even a couple hundred feet. So it's a significant impact on our neighborhood.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right. Uh you know, for somebody who's heard nothing about this, um Jen, can you give us just a little bit of background on what Protect Grove City is and how how it got its start?

SPEAKER_05 2:59

Yes, uh Protect Grove City got its start when um a citizen posted in a local Facebook group, Grove City Connect, and started talking about the headwaters, which is the data center development um site. Uh started talking about it and I saw it. And I saw the location. And I'm like, oh my goodness, that is right down the street from us. Like that's not far at all. I passed that location every single day, taking my kids to school. And so I started looking into it. I could not find a whole lot of information. This was back in the um, this was back in the I don't know, beginning of 2020, at the end of 2025, maybe. And so I started looking into it. I couldn't find anything about it. I realized that it was in Pleasant Township, so then I dove into our um Pleasant Township's meeting minutes to see if anybody was discussing it there, because I don't attend those meetings regularly at the time. So, and I did find that in February of 2026, that Pleasant Township actually passed a moratorium against data centers. And so it uh I immediately called our Pleasant Township trustee, got the scoop from him. Um he had let us know that uh that a huge amount of acreage, um, you know, over 200 acres was going to be annexed out of Pleasant Township into Grove City. Um he had let me know that he personally wrote letters to the Franklin County Board of Commissioners asking them to deny annexation. He said, I don't know if they can do anything. And I said, Well, should we all write letters? And he said it it can't hurt anything. So um, and then he let me know that there was a couple in town that were gathering signatures on a petition to present to the city council to let them know that the community members did not agree with this data center being here. So I asked him for their name and number, and um I got in contact with Barb and Jack, and she brought me copies of the of the petition, and I made a post with two calls to action. Come sign my petition and let's write the Franklin County Board of Commissioners and let them know that we don't want this data center here to please not annex the property into Grove City. And from there, um, you know, local community members were like, let's let's do this. What else can we do? How can we get organized? You know, and it just grew into a very well-organized movement with the help of some uh the other local organizations that were already had this on their radar as well. And that's where we are today.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yeah, yeah, good. And Patty, Patty, maybe just a question for you. Since you're you're going you not you're going to, you would potentially be living in the shadow of this uh thing. Do you have any sense of the scale of how how big this is? Is that something you can describe for the listeners?

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Oh yeah. Um, and I don't think people really grasp or realize, like you said, the scale and the size of it. Because when you when you talk about the 310-acre site, and not to how do I say this, not to belittle anyone, but most homes in the city are on like a quarter to maybe a half acre, and you don't really think about it. You know, you don't really put that scale into perspective when you're thinking about that. Take for instance Mount Carmel. Mount Carmel's site is, I think, approximately 37 acres. So when you look at that, you take that times six almost. So if you go over to Mount Carmel and you stand there and look at that, you multiply that times six and you think about that. And those buildings can be upwards of 100 feet tall. 10 stories. That, yeah. And Mount Carmel, I believe, is seven stories, if I'm correct. So the veracity and the size of this is something that is nowhere near close to our what is existing in our city anywhere. And it's just, it's I just can't comprehend something like that. And they they kept pushing it down our throat that they're going to put the border, you know, the wall up, the trees, and and we won't even see it. It'll be set back so far, we will it won't even be visible. I'm sorry, but I don't care how far back from my property line you construct a 10-story building. I'm going to see it. We're going to see it. It is going to be the new skyline of Grove City. It's just, it's it's massive. It's not small by any means. And 310 acres is a good chunk of land.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Yeah, for sure. All right. So let's let's just really quickly talk about uh Jen, if you if you can, the the impact of having something that size, like water use, power use, like what are the what are the things that people need to be thinking about?

SPEAKER_05 8:38

So in terms of resources, like let's just start with that. Um the amount of water that um most data centers of this size would be using um is is absolutely insane compared to, like Patty said, other industry that is already in Grove City. So for instance, the um let's use uh the hospital. The hospital usage of water based on the amount of beds they have is probably about 40,000 gallons a day. And data centers um of this magnitude that are trying to be built on the wrench road, on wrench road are typically use anywhere between 500,000 to a million to a million gallons per day. So we're talking 10 times or more of the amount of water usage. And why that's important is because where this is going to be built is on top of a wonderful aquifer that actually feeds all the wells of the people that live in that area, Patty included. So what we're seeing around the country is that um these data centers that are being built in these, you know, rural suburb areas, um, that they do tap into the aquifer once they're there and wells are going dry. Or um, you know, the township up around the New Albany is already receiving water restrictions in the neighborhoods around that one. So, I mean, it does the water usage alone can can really impact the people that live locally around there. And on top of that, you know, what are you is there a chance that they're going to pollute it? Like there just are no regulations right now that say what a data center can and cannot do with the resources around it, which is why we got involved. Like it's just the wild, wild west of let's build really quickly because nobody's really, you know, paying attention to us or regulating what we do and what we can't do. Um, the power usage. Um, let's talk about using Mount Carmel again as an example. So Mount Carmel's max capacity of megawatts for electricity that they can use is 4.4 megawatts. That's what I read on the internet. And they've never used more than over two megawatts at their highest, you know, peak need. And this data center would probably a data center of this size could use anywhere from 250 to 300 megawatts continuously all the time. So, why they are so interested in this particular property is that there's a very large substation, electric uh electric substation right there on the property, and they are wanting to tap into our grid. So, what we're also concerned about then is the amount of usage, um, the amount of electricity that they will be using will cause our, as the demand goes up, it causes the rest of the residents to have to pay for um, it causes our electricity bill to go up, which we're already seeing because of the amount of data centers in Ohio over the past two years. We're already seeing rate hikes that have been confusing homeowners around the state. Um, and and we're just now learning, oh, this is because of the 200 plus data centers that have been built here in the state. So we we are concerned about that. Um, but then let's also talk about the things that are the unknowns, because we don't know who the end user will be and what type of data center this will be once it's built. But we have to worry about things like infrasound, the un, you know, the sound that you can't hear, but the low vibration that actually affects, you know, the wildlife. It affects your body, it affects your sleep, it affects people that have neurodivergent diagnoses, things like that. Um, we have to worry about the uh type of, you know, just the humming sound as well. We worry about the air quality pollution. We worry about the heat that um, you know, buildings like this can actually, you know, raise the temperature just a couple of degrees, which really affects the ecosystem around and it affects, you know, the residents around um these facilities. Um we also worry about uh, let's see, I said electric, I said the, oh yeah, the the lights, the light, the amount of light. There's so many things, and nobody is regulating any of it. There are no regulations. So, like I said, it's the wild, wild west. Who can build first, who can build the fastest before anybody actually knows what they're doing or what the impact is. Um, but there's just there's a lot of things for us to and for city council to to learn about what this could look like and how they should regulate it before they allow it to happen.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Yeah, that's right. And and I think one thing that doesn't get talked about very often, but they are literally living through in billiard right now is the impact of HB 15, right? Which uh 2025, uh Ohio passed uh a law that allows these data centers to submit applications so they can build their own power mechanisms right on site. So uh what's tricky about that is there's no say to the city at all. So if if we were to let this data center in the front door, uh, you know, next year, they could say, hey, guess what? We're gonna build uh a brack gas power plant here that's gonna put out enough CO2 uh to equate to 160,000 cars running 24 hours a day every day. Yeah. Right? That's what's happening in Hilliard right now. Yeah. So um and and I don't know that everybody understands that risk. Like we talk a lot about the other measurables, but there are these sideways deals that have gone through our state house. Yes. Uh tax revenue is another prime example of this, right? They pay no sales tax on materials for their uh data centers. So therefore, all that sales tax money is gone.

SPEAKER_05 14:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Right.

SPEAKER_05 14:27

So to go back to the HB 15, because I really want listeners to understand that this, in my opinion, is the scariest part about having a a data center this size in your backyard. Um, because it's it's not just that, because that that's kind of their excuse. It's kind of their way into like, we won't, we're not, we don't even need to tap into your grid. We don't even need to use your electric resources because we're going to build our own power generation facility. And it can be nuclear, it can be um methane, it can be fracking, you know, natural gas, what whatever. And the key is that once they're approved and they're building, the way that the new uh HB15 has been written is that there is no, absolutely no required approval needed from the municipality. So the city cannot have any say in a yes or no of having a nuclear facility or a methane gas facility, you know, six acres behind it. Um, that's that's literally going to be neck across the street from Autumn Grove subdivision. I they just the city won't even have any say in that whatsoever. And that Ohio House Bill 15, the the Ohio Sighting Board is where they will um send their application for their power for their power plant, their power generation facility. And they are pushing those um applications through to approval within 45 days. So they are moving very quickly. Yeah.

unknown 15:57

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Okay. So I think we set the table pretty good. So let's talk about uh where we are right now and kind of how we got here. So uh a couple weeks back, city council passed the moratorium six to one. That's great news. Uh, not only does it put a 12-month pause on the um conversation about the data centers being approved, but it also set up a task force to go figure out what the requirements will be once we get to a point where we want to have that conversation again.

unknown 16:35

Right?

SPEAKER_01 16:35

So I think all of that is positive. But uh you know, the question that I keep hearing is we just did this moratorium thing. Why are we trying to do a charter amendment? So can can either of you give me, you know, 30 seconds to a minute on why now, why do this and why now?

SPEAKER_05 17:03

Well, honestly, the the one thing through my mind that kept running after the moratorium passed was okay, 12 months from now, let's, you know, say this particular project has its parameters in place, the zoning has been fixed, they have their regulations, you know, whether they approve, you know, headwaters moving in or not. When the next one comes, we have to do this again. Are we going to have to organize again? Are we gonna have to send out flyers again? Are we gonna have to make sure everybody is reading what who, you know, the planning commissions and who's coming in? And like we're gonna have to create a watchdog scenario where everybody's watching to see if another data center is trying to move in. Like, do we ever want to organize like we're gonna have we would absolutely organize like this again? But um boy, it would be really nice if we could just get something permanent in place so that the citizens of Grove City could always have a say in whether or not massive industrial development is even allowed here or not. Period.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. And I I would just add to that the amendment, so the the fire of today is data center, right? Like that's that's you hear that word a lot, we're throwing around a lot of numbers that have a lot to do with data centers because that's what that's the fight we're in, and that's what we know. But what we don't know is what the next huge thing will be, right? Right. So uh I really appreciate the the view that this is not a data center amendment. Although a lot of the measurements have to do with data centers, because like I said, that's what that's what we know right now. Um, we're really looking at anything large, anything that could change the face of Grimm City, making sure that the population has a direct say in whether or not that moves forward. There's there's no ban here, there's no um even change to the existing process, like of how we zone in, whatever. The change is beforehand, right? So the before before we get into the normal approval process, the public gets a thumbs up and thumbs down, and the and the company, let's call them the applicant, that is coming needs to pay to get that thumbs up, thumbs down on the ballot, right? They they've got to do all the work. The city's not paying for it, they've got to do the work if they want to come here. Now, I think one of the undersold things here is that if if it's a really good thing, like whatever, whatever the thing is, right? Let's just say uh, you know, um, I don't know, I can't think of a good example right now. It's a it's uh a huge uh greenhouse to to grow vegetables year-round or something. I don't know. I'm making that up. Anyhow, whatever it is, if it's really good, the people will say yes. And then you're not the invader, you're now invited, right? Absolutely, as a as the applicant, and and that creates a different paradigm than this uh people coming in, schmoozing the politicians, and whether or not the our current politicians fall for it, that's that's not what I mean. But there's no debating that Headwaters has tried to schmooze them. There's no debating, right? So uh whether or not they've fallen for it, that's a different thing, but they certainly have tried. Uh now I I think uh as we look forward, um I want to talk a little bit about the amendment itself and just kind of in plain English what it what it does, and then maybe we can get into some of the why. Does anybody want to take a shot at that?

SPEAKER_05 21:14

Perfect. Patty actually carries hers around with her everywhere. She's laughing, trying not to laugh. Yes, she has it sitting on the table here and she has little sections of it highlighted, and those are her talking points when she's sharing it with the neighbors. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

I do.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Tell us your highlights, Daddy. Tell us your highlights. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

One of the biggest things being a township resident was we we have always felt we were part of Grove City. But when it comes to things like this, we're really not a part of Grove City because we never had a voice in Grove City. We never had that right to vote on anything that was a part of Grove City. But we support Grove City, we love Grove City, it's our home. Town. We spend all of our money in Grove City. We visit all of the restaurants, the doctors, the dentists, everything. We are Grove City. So the biggest, like the biggest part of this that just really, really struck home with us, with every every person I've talked to, every every township resident, the the thing that I, when they ask, you know, well, what's that mean for us? What's it gonna gain us? The biggest part was, and it I get like so emotional over it, because I'm an emotional person anyway, but it's the mandatory referendum requirement with the adjacent township protection. That means more to us than like it's not that the whole thing isn't important because it is, but that part of that is like more important to us as township residents that it's actually going to give us a voice in what will be going on because even though this ground will any in any applicant, but you want to refer to them as an applicant, any company that wants to come in and will be annexed into the city, you can annex that land all you want and call it Grove City, but at the end of the day, it's still going to be township, it's going to sit out in the middle of these of the township. And that gives us a voice in saying what is going to be out in our neighborhood. We call it our neighborhood. We've always referred to ourselves as our neighborhood, you know. And um that doesn't mean that we still don't support Grove City. So that's one of the biggest things with this, you know, amendment that it actually made us feel like we were finally, finally, someone listened to us and we were gonna have a say, you know, we were gonna have our voice in this. So that was like one of the biggest things. The other thing also was um with the fines, um, you know, that part of that, if if it ever came to that, part of that would be put back into the immediate community, you know. Um, and that was a big deal with us, you know, that that would be put back um into the immediate area. And, you know, 50% goes to Grove City and 50% goes back to us. Um, there was just so many things. And the decommissioned fund, because our farm ground out there, you know, I know not everyone feels that way, but that's important to us. Our land out there is important to us. So if someone comes in, does something, and then it falls, it falters, and they just pack up and leave, what do we do with all that? You know, we're stuck with that out there. So the decommission fund was a big, big point for us too. Um, but yeah, this is, I think it's amazing. And the township residents have a that was their biggest the big win for us in the townships were those points because it really makes us feel that we're a part of it and we someone's finally, finally heard our voice.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

So you know the I think the sad part, Patty, is that it's not perfect, right? Like if if the city what what the amendment requires is that the city reach out to the township and try to form a joint partnership to do that election. But if for whatever reason they can't do it, then you still get a voice, but it doesn't necessarily count the same. No, but they but they there's only so much we can do, right?

SPEAKER_04 25:45

Right, but at least they have to consider our opinion. And that's more than we've ever ever been given. I mean, that's more than we've ever been given. So it's baby steps, it's a start. And trust me, that I think that means a lot to us.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

I'm glad. I I think it just makes sense. I mean, for for them to take the piece of land across the street from you and basically annex it into the city so that the township doesn't have a say anymore, right? But like I don't know. It I realize that it's legal and that's how the rules work, but it doesn't feel very honest.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

Yeah, it doesn't make it right. It's all still surrounded by township ground. Just because you put a label on it and say, poof, it's now city, doesn't necessarily make it right. Yeah, and it's all still surrounded by township homes and and land, and serviced by township services, and serviced by township fire, yeah. That is right, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Well, hell, our whole our whole city is serviced by township fire. That's a whole other but that's another topic for another podcast.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

In Pleasant Township, so it has to be serviced by Pleasant Township Fire.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

So yeah, that's a whole nother can of worms.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

It is, it is. So I feel like uh Pat, I should have probably laid the groundwork first because Patty jumped into like the the the secret sauce of what's in there instead of just the main ingredients, right? So first off, just to back up a second, the amendment is called the community consent amendment, right? Like that's that's the name of it. In plain English, what what it's trying to accomplish is that if a large-scale heavy industrial development is over some thresholds that are set in the in the amendment, then they need a public referendum before it can be approved and move through the approval process with the city. Yes. That's in just cut and dry terms, that's it. Those triggers are if it's 50 or more acres, if it's 20 megawatts or more of power draw, or if it's 500,000 or more gallons of water a day. If they hit any one of those three, that puts a flag on it. And that flag says, all right, the law director now has to look at this property or look at this not property proposal and say, does this uh equate to heavy uh industrial development? Right? So if we have a big subdivision or whatever that's more than 50 acres, of course it trips this flag. The law director would go, uh, that's a subdivision, that's not heavy industrial. So we're gonna okay it and and move on.

SPEAKER_05 28:52

Yeah, this does not apply.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

That's right, that's right. Now the trick, the trick to that is even after his his the their, whoever the law director is, their decision, the the public has an opportunity to appeal. So if for for whatever reason Edwaters put in their thing and he stamped it as not heavy industrial, we have 30 days for somebody to raise their hand and go, wait a minute, we think it's heavy industrial, we're gonna appeal that, and then it goes in front of council for them to take a vote to say, is this heavy industrial or not? Right? That's how that's how this works. So um there's the catches up front, there's the flag by the law director, there's the potential for appeal if if for whatever reason we think the law director got it wrong, and there's a final determination by the council. So there's plenty of runway there to get it right. Still possible that all that could go wrong. There's no perfect system here, but we tried to set it up so that we have as many opportunities as possible to get it right.

SPEAKER_05 30:10

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Once we get to that point, if it's flagged as heavy industrial, then the amendment requires that they do some education sessions for the public and pay to put it on the ballot uh and at the next, I I don't remember specifically how many days the next ballot has to be, but the next uh general election or primary election ballot. That's also where the city is required to work with the township and make sure that they, if they want to participate in the vote, we can count their vote in. Like there's a whole thing about that that Patty brought up. That's all uh good and wonderful. But at the end of the day, we want to make sure that everybody that's impacted by this thing, whatever, whatever it may be, has some kind of way to voice their approval or disapproval before we put this through the city's process. So that's that's really the gist of it. That's the that's the front of it. And then on the back side, uh, so once they have built their thing, whatever, whatever it might be, we have uh thresholds where we're saying you you know you can have uh a certain amount of water use, a certain amount of power use, etc. etc. So let's just say Headwaters comes in, they have 25 megawatts of power drawers in their application. Well, we approve if we approve them, they're gonna be set at 25 megawatts. And every quarter they have to report to the city, hey, this quarter we used 24.9 megawatts, this quarter we use 25.2 megawatts, etc., etc. If they begin to encroach on a 10% increase over that limit that they were set at, so in that case it would be 27 and a half, if they get to 27.5 megawatts, they have to go back through the process again, right? Because they're not doing what they had agreed to do, they're they're growing outside of their bounds, and we need to make sure that the city is okay with that group.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

And that includes another vote.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

That's right. Yeah, that's right. So um, yeah, so so that's the gist of the of the amendment. Uh there's a lot of new nuance in there and legalese and all of that stuff. I know there's a lot of consternation about verbiage and what have you. Um, but I I really think at the end of the day, this is citizens doing uh the best that they can trying to make sure that they have a voice uh in the process. Absolutely. And anything you'd want to add to that, Jen?

SPEAKER_05 33:05

No, just that um that we're really proud of it. And like you said, like you just to reiterate that, yeah, it may not be perfect. And it um, but based on what we are seeing other communities do around the country, it feels it from what we see, it doesn't seem like there's anything like this out there. Um, because a lot of communities focus on banning data centers, and that's not where we want to be, because that also then opens it up for you know legal and we don't want to ban no, no, yeah, business. We just want to be more careful in what we we just want to have a say in what comes here, especially when it's that large and massive. Yeah. So um, but I just I don't I feel like you know, communities around the country aren't, you know, that everybody's trying to scramble to figure out how they can protect their communities. And um, I'm just really proud of us for for putting this together in the time that we did. And yes, it's not perfect, but dang it, we just want to have a voice. And um please come find us and sign the dang petition so it's on the November ballot. That's where I'm at.

SPEAKER_04 34:15

It gives us all a voice in what we bring to our our neighborhoods and our community.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Yeah. So so let's talk about the process here. Um, so we have to collect signatures to get this thing on the ballot in November. Can you tell us where we are, what we're shooting for?

SPEAKER_05 34:36

I should have reached out to my volunteer that's counting signatures this morning. I did not. Um, I am I am certain we are well over a thousand based on the um signatures that were collected in the past couple of days. Um, I do not know what that exact number is. So I can tell you that we need 1,677 valid signatures um in order to be on the ballot. And we are shooting for 2,500 um to turn into the board of elections so that there is some room for error or somebody that, you know, didn't fill out the word properly or didn't put the right apartment number that they cross off or whatever. Um, so we are shooting for a much larger number than what we actually need for that, so that there is no so that we definitely hit our goal before um to get it on the ballot for this November. So we yeah. What else would you like to know?

SPEAKER_01 35:34

So uh when what what's our timeline look like? Yes, we have to get those signatures by one.

SPEAKER_05 35:41

Yes, we have to get those signatures in before the uh beginning of July because the first step is to then take those signatures to the city clerk of Grove City. And at that point, it is up to them. They have 10 business 10 business days, is that correct? To then turn it into the Board of Elections. And then the Board of Elections has 10 days to verify signatures so that it is all said and done before August. What's my what's that final date? Is it August 3rd? I think it is August 3rd.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

That's the number of stuff in my head.

SPEAKER_05 36:15

Mine too. Mine too. Um, yeah. And then at that point, the Board of Elections will let us know, yes, you had enough signatures. Um, you know, you met the threshold of 1,677 or more, and this ballot measure will definitely be on Grove City's November uh November 3rd ballot. And I can remember that date because it's my birthday, so it has to pass.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

So how does somebody sign this petition to get this on the ballot? Where can they find out about uh the effort? Uh, you know, all of that stuff. Where do they go?

SPEAKER_05 36:50

Yes, protectgrovecity.org is the most comprehensive place where you can read the full uh uh community consent amendment for yourself. Um, you can check out the signing events, and um, you can connect with our Facebook page, which also has all of those signing events as their own individual events, so that you can click going and get reminders if you're on Facebook. Um, the key thing to know is that the only people that can sign this petition are people who live who are registered voters within Grove City who live in wards one through five. Some people aren't really sure if that's them. So one of my favorite ways to um verify them when they walk up to me and ask to sign the petition is if you are at home and you call the police, who will come? Is it going to be Grove City Police Department, Franklin County Sheriff's Office, or the Columbus Police Department? The only right answer is Grove City Police Department. So that is kind of like the litmus test on whether or not you are eligible to sign the petition.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

Perfect. Yep.

unknown 37:49

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

Yeah. So if you can vote for the mayor, then you're in the city. Yep. That's right. That's right. Okay. So it is there anything else that we want to uh leave people with as as we go. What's our what's our call to action for folks here?

SPEAKER_05 38:06

So the call to action today is to go to protectgrovecity.org, find a signing event. Um, we are working really hard to get as close to 2,000 signatures as possible by the end of this week or beginning of next. Um, we would like these done sooner than later. Like we don't want to be at the, you know, down to the wire on the last day. So they are convenient. There are drive-thru location signing events. They are at ball fields, we are at the movie park, the movie uh movies in the park and at town center, we are at fitness in the park. Like we have volunteers ready with clipboards at all the places, anywhere in Grove City. And also, if you personally have a group of neighbors that would like to sign, um, have a signing party, get them all together, contact one of us, um, and we will bring a petition to you and and you know, get 20 signatures at one time, 10 signatures at one time, whatever. Um, we are we will. Yeah, we will. We will make the time to come to you um to get your signature, to get your neighbor's signatures. Um just help us get there as soon as possible so that we can get this on the ballot in November. So those are the main calls to action. Find a signing event, um, maybe host a signing event, and um talk to your neighbors about it. Make sure your friends and your family in Grove City know about the community consent amendment so that they can be informed and go read it for themselves and also sign the petition for the ballot initiative.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Thank you guys for spending a little time with us uh this morning. Uh hopefully this will help shed some light on uh the CCA and make sure that everybody understands what's really going on here and why it's important. I think the the big thing for me is the moratorium is temporary. The amendment is in the charter and cannot be changed uh unless the people vote to change it, right? So nobody will be able to take this away. Uh we'll always have that say until we decide that we don't. So um with that, I think we'll leave it there. Thanks again. Have a great day. We'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Thank you. Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

That's it for this special edition of the Grove Guys. We reserve these special sessions for important time sensitive topics in our community. Thanks for listening.