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Beyond the Closet Episode 17: Hollanov and Weddings (Sara's Birthday Special!)
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Join Nick and Sara on Beyond the Closet! In this episode Nick and Sara talk about The Long Game chapters 26-epilogue! They also celebrate Sara's Birthday with birthday cake, talk about new books coming this fall, book club questions, and rank the entire Game Changer series! With an exciting event announcement as well!
Intro
SPEAKER_02Hello and welcome back. I'm Nick.
SPEAKER_01And I'm Sarah.
SPEAKER_02And this is Beyond the Closet. Okay. So how are you doing?
SPEAKER_04I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. Um.
SPEAKER_02Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_01Hey!
SPEAKER_02Today's Sarah's birthday, you guys.
SPEAKER_01We have a cut we have a cake to cut.
SPEAKER_02We have a cake, like we did with my birthday. So, and we're both May birthdays, which is awesome. So we're gonna be cutting into that later. Um, but how are you otherwise? What have you been up to since I last saw you?
SPEAKER_04Um, well, I had a party on Sunday, which you were there for.
SPEAKER_02I was there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. It was a lot of fun. Um it was a lot too. I mean, I was very stressed out because But you did such a good job. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_02It was great. Everything was so well organized, so well planned.
SPEAKER_04Thank you. It was great. The last time I had a I threw a party. It was a Halloween party, I think.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really?
SPEAKER_04And I was so busy trying to make sure everybody was good and set and ready and everything.
SPEAKER_02You didn't have time for yourself.
SPEAKER_04I did not have time for myself. And the food that I worked so hard to make, that I spent hours making, was just all gone by the time I went to go get go eat a plate.
SPEAKER_08All of it. Oh, I'd be mad.
SPEAKER_04I was so I was furious.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I would be pissed.
SPEAKER_04And but yeah, I was like, I spent hours stuffing all of these like giant noodles full of meat and cheese. And then I I did two nine by like eight by ten pans of those.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04With like two or three layers of noodles.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm glad I wasn't there to eat it. I would have saved you a piece.
SPEAKER_04Thank you. I appreciate that. Um, and then I put sauce over them and I did cheese and I baked them, and they were beautiful, they were amazing, and everybody loved them. And when I went to go and when I went to go w have have some, fucking none. It was cleaned out.
SPEAKER_09Disrespectful. It's incredibly disrespectful of them.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Alex got to eat. I didn't. Alex didn't even take me a piece, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Rude! Anyway.
SPEAKER_04He would he would now though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Because he would he would know, like, hey, do you want a peach? He would do one of these. Do you want me to get you a peach?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He wouldn't. He totally would. He'd be so cute about it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's really funny.
SPEAKER_01But no, otherwise, good. Yeah, very good. How are you?
SPEAKER_02I'm good. Um, work's been great. Been, you know, been a little less busy since it's you know summer, it's getting warmer out. So, you know, yeah, it's a little warm in here. It's not as bad as the other week, though. But um, yeah, I'm I'm pretty good. I'm really excited just because like summer's coming around, and I think you and I have a lot more things we could do in the summer with the pod. Um, I don't know what to tell you. Um, but yeah, I'm doing I'm doing well. Um anyway, I'm great. But the party.
SPEAKER_01I'm still listening.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the party I went to was your party. That was great. My dad's birthday was yesterday.
SPEAKER_04Well, how was that? It was good. I did not wish your dad had a birthday because I don't have his number.
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't think he was expecting you to.
unknownOkay, fair enough.
SPEAKER_02Um, but yeah, he's the day before you. He's the 25th. So his was on obviously this is coming out on a Thursday. So we're filming it on your birthday, it's coming out on a Thursday, but his was on Monday, Memorial Day. And we went, just went to the house. I went by after work. Dan and Claire were already there, as well as my mom. We had brats, and we had, he doesn't really like cake. So we got, he always likes pie on his birthday, not cake. I was like, okay, valid. So we had these cute little apple pie cups that my mom cooked in this tiny little dish for each of us, which was really cute. That's cute. With ice cream on top. Um, I got him a gift, Claire got him a gift, my brother got him a gift. It was a little puppy.
SPEAKER_06That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02So, are we ready to talk about it?
SPEAKER_04This is going to be our last episode for the Heated Rivalry series.
SPEAKER_02For now.
SPEAKER_04For now, until next year.
SPEAKER_02Until next year. This is it. This is it. The long game. We have finished the long game. This feels this feels so weird.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's been 17 weeks of reading all of these books, and it's been so much fun.
SPEAKER_03It's been a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_02But I'm also so excited to explore other stories.
SPEAKER_03Yes, me too.
SPEAKER_02But this was just so fun, and this is what started it all. And I again, I still remember asking you if you wanted to do this. And I was like, let's have a heated robbery, you know, podcast. And you're like, let's have an LGBTQ podcast. And I was like, now we're talking. Yeah. Because then we can talk about everything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know. Because if we only talked about heated robbery.
SPEAKER_02This would be our last episode.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Until next short or short-lived. Thanks, guys, for joining us. We're at least 16 episodes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So that's why I was like, okay, we need to, yeah. So I'm glad this worked out for Happy Pizza. Yeah. Um, but let's go ahead and we don't have, I don't have any more of those.
SPEAKER_01Um, which is sad.
SPEAKER_02But I will get more as soon as I can. I might ask Natasha if she has some.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we can also make our own.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we could do that too. Um, but I think we should go ahead and talk about these
Chapters 26- Epilogue Review
SPEAKER_02chapters, and then we can review.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then we'll go from there.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02So let's get and then after that, I'm thinking we can have cake. Yes. And then do the uh three book club questions. And then what we'll do is we'll do some maybe some uh we're gonna be talking about a new book that's coming out in September.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02And then we'll talk about possibly TV and movies that we should watch because we're gonna take a break from reading for a little bit.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02I think I took we talked about that, right? Okay, we're gonna take a break from reading for a little bit and watch some movies and shows to talk about on here. And then we'll do some event announcements and then we'll wrap it up.
SPEAKER_05Awesome. Okay.
SPEAKER_02So let's get down to business.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, so much.
SPEAKER_04What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02Chapter 26.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Ottawa wins the game.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Ottawa wins, and this is a chapter where I was very invested in Luca.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Because one, he can draw. And he drew Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_04And he was drunk too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But it was really good apparently. So, but then like is Luca gay?
SPEAKER_04That's a good question because he said.
SPEAKER_02Is everyone gay? That was in my notes. Is everyone gay? Literally everybody.
SPEAKER_04Um. Okay. I was maybe not so concerned with careful, Ilya said. I have I had a lot of sex with many people. Luca's chinks Luca's cheeks pinked. Yes, I have heard. Was fine, no problems. Most people want to hook up and move on with no drama, even when you are famous. Luca fill fiddled with a coaster. I am not so much looking for hookups. Oh, you don't like sex? Luca turned redder. I like it, yes. I am um particular. Maybe, or shy, I don't know. He let out a nervous giggle. This is not a conversation I thought I would I would have with you. Ilya grinned. I but I am right beside your bed watching you have sex. Dude, I did not just hear that. Because Luca has a poster of Ilya up on his bed, up his bed at his parents' house.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um I thought that was funny. That was hilarious.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But like, I don't know if he's necessarily gay or if he's just like, you know, didn't think he would have that conversation with Ilya.
SPEAKER_04I also had a another question. He might not he might be asexual. Yeah. And that's not just one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He might be asexual or he might be pan or bi or whatever.
SPEAKER_04But yeah. But it's definitely a good uh unless Rachel Reed is like, hey, here's another book about Luca.
SPEAKER_02And then don't put that in my head, or I will lose my mind. That would be really funny. That'd be really cool though. I'd be really excited.
SPEAKER_04I just don't know what his story would entail. That'd be so interesting.
SPEAKER_02It'd be very interesting.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um also they talked about, I think they said 20-year-old, this he's like a 20-year-old or something. I looked it up, and if I'm wrong on this, I do apologize, but I'm pretty sure the legal drinking age in Canada is 18 to 19 years old.
SPEAKER_04I think so too. Because that's the way it is in England.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04I think that's 16 there, actually.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. But I just thought I thought that was interesting. I was like, oh.
SPEAKER_04America is the weird one.
SPEAKER_02America is where you have to be 21.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I was like, okay. Canada, you have to be 18, 19. That's kind of wild. So like in Canada, when you hit 18, you are an adult. You know, like, I mean, 18 here too, you're also an adult, but you're legal in Canada. I thought that was kind of interesting. Um, do you have anything else to say about chapter 26, or should we move on to chapter 27?
SPEAKER_04I think I'm good.
SPEAKER_02Uh Shane wins Fastest Skater.
SPEAKER_04Yes, because this was the NHL All-Star Skills competition.
SPEAKER_02Those are always fun. I love when those are around in the book.
SPEAKER_04And I love how you know everybody sees Shane and Ilya as like, oh, they're just friends. Yeah, they're like actually they're kind of like outwardly flirting with each other because this is like their way of flirting.
SPEAKER_02And it's so funny. It's so funny because like Shane, um Shane just wanted to win that competition so bad. He did. And he was totally like kind of like throwing those singles out there of like, no, I'm gonna beat you, and everyone's around going, probably going like, okay, anyways. Um but um, but yeah, that was funny, and then it sounds like Shane wants Scott to come to the camps for this upcoming summer. Yeah, which is good. Um Cliff knocks while they're fucking in the hotel room. That was really hot.
SPEAKER_01That was really hot. That was really hot.
SPEAKER_02That was so hot. It reminded me of when he was on the phone with Hayden.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was gonna say it was really funny. I think Shane finds that really hot.
SPEAKER_02I think he does too, and I don't think he realized it until he was on the phone with Hayden when Ilya did that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because then he was like, fuck, why was that so hot? It was so funny. And I think Cliff is in this show, isn't he? I want to say he's Ilya's teammate. Because like he's the one what's wrong with him. He's like, I stub my toe. I think he's that guy.
SPEAKER_04But that would be on Boston then.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, you're right. I don't think we've seen Cliff then yet. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Um and there But maybe Cliff is not the all-star. Maybe it's just a glamorin of players that thrown off the game.
SPEAKER_02Maybe that's true. That's true. Um, and they talked about when they're when they get married, they'll be the first NHL married couple.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Like that both play in the NHL. Yeah. To clarify. Scott and Kip are married, but Kip's not in the NHL.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um chapter 28 is where things get a little cray cray. Um Eric, uh, they approach Crowell. Shane and Ilya go up to Crowell. Because last time Shane talked to him, he didn't want Shane to come out, and he wanted it to stay a rumor. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, sorry, I'm still in chapter 27.
SPEAKER_02Oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_04No, you're good. You're good.
SPEAKER_02Oh no. Shout out to the workroom again for these amazing coasters. Beautiful.
SPEAKER_04No, I just think it's so funny when Rosenov is talking to Scott.
SPEAKER_02Oh, anytime they talk, it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_04Scott is just like, like, why are you talking to me?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Quite literally, every time. And it's so funny.
SPEAKER_04And then this um, fuck off, I'm not retiring this year. No, but your body is so old. Your body's so he's that much older than them. I know. Like, okay, good night, Rosanov. Do you remember where your room is? Shut up. Do you need help? It's really funny. And it's funny because in all honesty, he looks like he could play hockey for many years to come.
SPEAKER_02He's he secretly does like Scott. He just likes to give him a shit.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which I think is really funny. Um Do you have anything else on chapter 27?
SPEAKER_04Or no, they fuck in the hotel room, Cliff Knox, and that's that.
SPEAKER_02That's that, and it's awesome. Chapter 28, they approach Crowell. Do you remember that? When they approach him.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_04And they're kind of like a short chapter.
SPEAKER_02Chapter 28? I think it's like three pages.
SPEAKER_04Yes, okay, but this is like where they actually like confront him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's what I yeah, they confront him about.
SPEAKER_04I'm going to talk to Crowell. What the hell are you doing? Don't be stupid. Um yeah, because Ilya wants to call him out for talking to Troy. And so he wants to stand up for his friend.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then Shane gets all heated. And he was talking to Shane about how he wants Shane to stay in the closet and not come out because he wants to say a rumor.
SPEAKER_04That was a previous conversation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know. So, and but Ilya knows about that though, so he's not about two different things, but he's talking to him mainly about Troy.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Not being able to post for the uh SA victims.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which is crazy.
SPEAKER_04Because Pearl is like after what Dallas was accused of doing anonymously. Like, that's not that wasn't anonymous. That was five different things.
SPEAKER_02Five people.
SPEAKER_04Five people. Yeah, like it would be anonymous if it was one person.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and then he was talking about how like he was like, oh yeah, there are plenty of NHL players that are gay or whatever. And he's like, two other players apparently came out after Scott, one's named Baldwin, and they never were never offered another contract, so they left. And then London, I think London, I think is how you say his name, maybe, he moved back to Sweden.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like I'm over here, like, okay, well then there's not really and Ryan, Eric and Ryan retired. Yeah. So, like, you know, not all of them are I just think it's crazy that that's how he's treating all this still, is just fucking insane to me. Um, I have a lot to say about chapter 29. Okay. Let me know when you're ready. Unless you have one trash talk Corelle more, I will happily do that.
SPEAKER_01I fucking hate the guy.
SPEAKER_02Chapter 29. You good to move on to chapter 29?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02Ilya has a great relationship with Troy, and I really, really like it. Yeah. Because you see both perspectives of their friendship through these books.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I really liked that.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Because Troy had told Ilya, hey, I'm coming out at Pride Night, which, by the way, we need to go in an ads game next season for the Pride Night.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02I want to go.
SPEAKER_03That'd be fun.
SPEAKER_02Because I heard they do like the rainbow tape on their sticks.
SPEAKER_04Cute. Yes, please. We should go.
SPEAKER_02That'd be literally fun.
SPEAKER_04That'd be really fun.
SPEAKER_02And then Troy came out to the team, which also happens in role model, obviously. But it just all is just from Ilya's point of view, which I think is really cool.
SPEAKER_04I know, it's really cute.
SPEAKER_02Um, but he wants a moment like that with Shane so bad. So bad.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Which gets me so fucking excited for Unrivaled. I know!
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_02Um I love Ilias Therapist too. And she was like, well, maybe come out to one of your friends, maybe see if that helps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And to Svetlana.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Gorgeous queen. Love her. Um, she's awesome. And I love that she came back. They hadn't seen each other in three years.
SPEAKER_04That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02That's wild. Because I thought I thought she was just, you know.
SPEAKER_04I thought she was gonna be a more stable friend than that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it sounds like he kind of like to discredit her. No, no, no, no, no. They kind of just like got distant for a second because it sounded like so much was going on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And Ilya apologized for that.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, but it sounds like he spent a lot of boot Ilya at the when they when he played Boston, which was really funny.
SPEAKER_05That was really funny.
SPEAKER_02Um, and he told her about Shane. So she knows about Shane now. And I love that because she he's like, his name's Shane. She's like, he's like, oh, well, the only hockey pla Shane, the hockey player named Shane I can think of is Shane Hollander. And he's like, she's like, is it Shane Hollander? And he's like, yes. I'm so I'm so glad they reunited though.
SPEAKER_04Oh. After she said that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, she goes, is it Shane Hollander?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm afraid so, yes.
SPEAKER_02I'm afraid so.
SPEAKER_04And then the server comes around, can I bring you another drink? And Savannah seemed to realize she was basically lying on the table and slid back in her chair with as much grace as possible. We'll need several bottles of wine, I think. Yeah, that was funny. And then Ilias said, let's just start with one.
SPEAKER_02Let's just start with one. That reminds me of when we were at FedExpo.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02That was so funny. Anything else on 29, or do we want to go to 30?
SPEAKER_0630.
SPEAKER_0230? Pride night is what made me. Do you said did you say you cried at the end of the role model? Like teared up. I teared it up.
SPEAKER_04Because that was really, really sweet, and it was just like so powerful. It was so beautiful and powerful to see someone finally get a good ending. Like a really good ending. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So that's when chapter 34 happens because Shane and Ilya are sad. It's so sad because Ilya, it was Pride Night for Ilya's game, and Ilya just comes home and is just, he's like, I should be happy. I should be happy. But I'm so sad. Because they can't do that. Yeah. It makes me so upset. I don't know. And then they shower. And Shane dries off Ilya. I don't know what it is, but to me, that's hot as fuck. I don't know what it is. But him just drying Ilya off, and Ilya just like standing there, and Shane's just drying, like, that's attractive.
SPEAKER_04Here's what I'm imagining. If I can play it out, please.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um if you're gonna stand, your head might get cut off by the camera.
SPEAKER_04That's fine. Um I'm imagining Shane just doing it and Illy just being like, yeah, just like standing T-pose.
unknownLike, yep.
SPEAKER_02He wouldn't know.
SPEAKER_01He would, and it'd be so funny.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if that'll happen in the show. That'd be hilarious.
SPEAKER_01I feel like I'd be so awkward.
SPEAKER_02It'd be so awkward, but it'd be so funny. Um and they talk about them having kids one day, and then they make jokes about naming it after Corell.
SPEAKER_04Yes, they did. That was funny. Oh, but my favorite part was when they said Holonov. Yes! I didn't know that was in the book!
SPEAKER_02I didn't know that was in the book. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that either. That was adorable. And didn't they say another one? We're Shane and Ilya together, or it was like didn't they reverse it at one point?
SPEAKER_01It was like Rosender.
SPEAKER_02Rosender? And they were like, that's our kid's name.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_02That was funny. Um, that was hilarious. Um, do you have anything else? Oh, chapter 30. 31. Ilya goes to Harris's farm.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I didn't see that coming at all. I thought that was adorable.
SPEAKER_04And he he gets a dog. He done.
SPEAKER_02They have a dog. The way they they described it in the book, though, sounds like it's an Australian shepherd of some kind. Because it was like I think they said it was like a medium-sized dog, and it sounded like it was an Australian shepherd, from what I've heard.
SPEAKER_04Anya?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Yeah, Anya is Ilya's dog that he adopted.
SPEAKER_04I thought she was like border collie.
SPEAKER_02Maybe border collie too. I don't know. Or like a mix? I can't remember, but I I I thought it was an Australian shepherd for some reason. Let me know what it says. If you find it.
SPEAKER_04I need to find it.
SPEAKER_02We can look it up later if you want.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Let's just look it up later. Anyway. Ilya has Anya now.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Cute doggy. And Shane meets Anya, but apparently Shane wasn't great with pets at first.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if you No, because he didn't grow up with pets.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. So he was just like he didn't really know what to do, but now he like loves Anya.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's adorable. And I think it's so cute because they play with her and they walk her and they cuddle with her before bedtime, which is fucking cute as hell. And I thought that was so cute.
SPEAKER_04And I love the fact that Ilya is so attuned to the little things, like dogs and kids, and like he's just so good at that. And I'm like, you weren't raised with like dogs and every anything, but you just have that nature about you. I'm like, he's so cute.
SPEAKER_02I love him. One of my favorite parts, it are you okay if I move to chapter 32?
SPEAKER_04Go for it. I'm still gonna try and find this fucking dog.
SPEAKER_02But when they're talking about like because Shane's like, okay, I like that you got a dog, but how do where is she gonna go when you're on the road? You know?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And Ilya's like, hotel.
SPEAKER_01And he's like, like kennel?
SPEAKER_02No, no, hotel.
SPEAKER_01Hotel.
SPEAKER_02Not kennel, hotel. And that reminds me of the movie Hotel for Dogs.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_01You remember that movie?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was a good movie. Um this is where things get a little cray cray. Hayden. Hayden.
SPEAKER_03Wait, is the trophy scene before or after Hayden?
SPEAKER_02After.
SPEAKER_03After, okay.
SPEAKER_02Hayden. Can you s do you want to say it?
SPEAKER_04Hayden outs Shane and Ilya because of his stupid fan mail videos. And Shane and Ilya were in the parking lot making out, and the window that showed them reflected off the mirror and then was in the background of Hayden's video. And so then that's where yeah, everybody was like, Oh my god, that's them. Yeah. And it was very clearly them.
SPEAKER_02It was a whole thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I felt bad because I was probably very scary. I was very scary for them. That gave me anxiety. Okay, this was a plot twist. Are you? I'm just gonna wait until you find out what kind of dog she is. Because I feel like we need we need to move on from that. And that way we need to.
SPEAKER_04I'm sorry, now I'm like determined. Yes.
SPEAKER_02We're not looking it up later. Now we actually want to know.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04The unnamed dog was medium sized with long hair that was a mix of brown and white and grey. She had floppy ears and big brown eyes, and the sweetest face Ilya had ever seen.
SPEAKER_02So maybe like a collie or like an Aussie Australian shepherd.
SPEAKER_04I think, yeah, more collie.
SPEAKER_02Collie? Just brown collie, maybe.
SPEAKER_04Makes me want to have a fucking collie.
SPEAKER_02Doggy?
SPEAKER_04So bad.
SPEAKER_02I know I love doggies. I really want to get a dog. Okay. I do too. Did I tell you my boss brought in his dog the other day? And I didn't know it was back there. I came into the back. Dude, I thought it was a bear. Damn. You know who it looks like though? Chiron.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_02She looked just like Chiron and she was so cute. I don't think she liked me though. She kept barking at me. I was like, I should probably go.
SPEAKER_04That's sad.
SPEAKER_02Um I like when. Okay, so there's something I want to clarify in chapter 32 that I don't know if you thought was cool or a plot twist or not.
SPEAKER_01What's that?
SPEAKER_02But coach is bisexual.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I didn't know. I didn't see that coming.
SPEAKER_02I did not see that coming at all. Did you?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_02And he was like, yeah, I used to fool around with somebody, and I was just like, wait, what? That's great. I didn't know that was gonna happen at all. That was so cool. Because I didn't know because he wanted to talk to Ilya after that video of them had come out, and he told Ilya about that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I thought that was I was like, I did not see this coming at all. I was like, okay, this is really cool. And I thought that was great. And now he's married with a wife. Which was great.
SPEAKER_04Where was this conversation?
SPEAKER_02Chapter 32. I should probably have my book with me too much. Please hold it. Oh, that's thirty-three. Hold on. It's on page. Three forty-seven.
SPEAKER_04This was funny.
SPEAKER_02Did you find it?
SPEAKER_04No, it's just they're all sitting Hayden, Ilya, and Shane are all sitting down talking about getting found out. Oh yeah! And they start laughing about it, and Shane is like, this is like it's not funny. And Ilya's like, it's very funny. Hayden's stupid fan mail video video. Oh my god, this is somebody's birthday greeting. Someone named Brad. And then Shane mumbles. Who Brad is! And then Shane mumbles, sorry, Brad.
SPEAKER_02It's one of those scenarios like when you and I say something, be like, that was bad. And then I'm like, it's a little funny. It's a little funny.
SPEAKER_04And then Shane is like, stop laughing. But now he was laughing too. Yeah. Anya leaped to the floor and started pacing back and forth in front of the coffee table while Shane fell on top of Ilya and laughed until his body ached with it. We are so fucked.
SPEAKER_02I hope that happens in the show. It hope it's so funny.
SPEAKER_04So funny.
SPEAKER_02I felt bad though because Hayden felt so bad.
SPEAKER_03Hayden felt terribly. He felt so gonna hold it over Hayden's head for a long time.
SPEAKER_02But like Ilya was so nice about it, and I think Ilya really does like Hayden now, which I thought was really sweet. That was great.
SPEAKER_04They have a good friendship.
SPEAKER_02They do, and they're and it sounds like so far the only person that's supportive is obviously Hayden. Obviously, we'll get to who else is supportive later on, but Hayden's supportive. The coach is supportive, yes, which is great, but like JJ is not thrilled. Do you remember that?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02JJ's kind of mad at him. What are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_01The reason. Okay.
SPEAKER_04JJ was mad at him.
SPEAKER_09He's mad at Shane.
SPEAKER_04Mad at Shane for not telling him. But then I can't remember at what point, but it was a game between Montreal and Ottawa. And Shane and Ilya are racing for the for the puck, trying to get it down to the goalie and make a score. And then Shane trips and doesn't know how he fucking tripped. Yes. And then Ilya makes the goal and Ottawa wins.
SPEAKER_02And JJ's like, why did you do that? Why'd you let him win?
SPEAKER_04Not just not just that. It Shane was like, I can't believe I fucking tripped. And then JJ was like, did you? Did you actually mean to trip? Or was that on purpose? Yeah. To let him win. Because we because they knew that they were together.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, up to that. Yeah, everybody did.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But then it was like, did you intentionally do that to let him win?
SPEAKER_02Shane would never.
SPEAKER_03No, fuck no. Anyone who likes him is like, fuck no, he wouldn't.
SPEAKER_02It's like in the in the cottage episode, do you let dad win at cards? I'd rather die. Exactly. Exactly. So that's when I was like, Shane didn't do this. Um, but JJ's kind of mad at him. And yeah, I kind of get I understand his frustration. However, I get why JJ's mad because Shane told Hayden but not JJ. So I get that frustration.
SPEAKER_03I can't remember why Hayden found out. Did Hayden walk in on them?
SPEAKER_02No, that was Ryan. But I think they I think Shane just felt comfortable telling Hayden. Because it's talked about in like the epilogue, I think, of He did Valbury.
SPEAKER_04It was there was a dinner date.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so they he Hayden's known for a while.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But he's just, I think J is upset. He's like, you told Hayden, but not me. Like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_04But it's whatever Shane was coming. It's Exactly. You can't be mad at somebody for not sharing a secret with you. It's about when they are ready to share the secret. It's not about you. It's not about anything that they have against you.
SPEAKER_02Especially someone's sexuality. That's someone that and like who they're seeing or whatever. That's that's something for them to decide when they do.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02So like I understand JJ's perspective.
SPEAKER_04However, it's just it's not annoying.
SPEAKER_02It's Shane was not in the wrong. I don't think Shane was in the wrong for that. He did what he was comfortable with. And um, yeah, and now they're benched. What the fuck, Growl? I hate you. You suck. You are the worst.
SPEAKER_04You you suck.
SPEAKER_02You are the worst. He is horrible. Um, but something, but like Ilya's neighbors made a sign.
SPEAKER_04I know, that was so sweet.
SPEAKER_02They have Funkos in this universe.
SPEAKER_01That's so cute.
SPEAKER_02Uh that's really we actually get Funkos in real life, please.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_02Please, that would be great. That'd be awesome. All the characters, too. Um, and then they're supposed to have a meeting with Corell.
SPEAKER_04But don't do that stupid fucked up thing you do, Pop Funko, where you're like, the two main characters are rarer than the side characters. No. Just make us an exact amount of each of them. Or more so of the main characters, so that way everybody gets one.
SPEAKER_02I know you're talking about.
SPEAKER_04Don't make it like you have to spend 50 bucks in order to get Shane and Ilya. No. No, $12!
SPEAKER_02The regular price!
SPEAKER_04Please.
SPEAKER_02But we love you, Funko. We love you. Anyway, so um He likes to play nice.
SPEAKER_04I don't. Just saying.
SPEAKER_02She's just joking. Don't worry. Um I'm not. Anyway. So, yeah, that'd be great if we got Funko stuff, for real. Um, but the meeting with Corell. He's so mean to them.
SPEAKER_04And he is, and so is JJ. JJ gets really mean.
SPEAKER_02JJ does get really mean, and I'm not ready for that. But like, obviously he comes around in the end.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But like the meeting with Corell was so Is the actor who plays JJ coming back for season two?
SPEAKER_02I hope so. I forgot to ask him. I would assume I I hope so, because he's a big part of this.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Hayden's obviously coming. Scott, if Scott and Kip are coming back, JJ's gotta come back. Yeah. Because the Montreal Metros are a big part of this book. Well, and here it's the Voyagers. But but in the show it's the Metros. But yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if the actor didn't decide not to come back, then they could always replace it with another character that was Shane's best friend or somebody.
SPEAKER_02I think whole I think Benjamin will be in it.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02I don't see why he wouldn't be. They start filming in July, I think. I know.
SPEAKER_03Can the drop no but then there's chapter 34.
SPEAKER_02The trophy run. That was amazing. And super hot.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. Wait, no, go back, go back, go back.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, or what 30.
SPEAKER_04Wait, what fucking chapter are we in?
SPEAKER_02I was about to move on to 34. Sorry.
SPEAKER_04No, you're fine. I thought it was like you're moving on to chapter 40, and I was like, I didn't even know there were 40 chapters, and yeah, I thought there was only 39. I mean, if you count that blog, it's like two pages, but uh Okay, no, so chapter 34. Farah makes a statement for them.
SPEAKER_02Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02She's great.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, which this is really sweet. Although having the decision to close our relationship made for us isn't ideal, we would like to announce officially that we are in a committed and romantic relationship and have been for several years. We wish we could have told you in our own way, but we don't hold this unfortunate accident against Hayden. We know that our relationship will be difficult for a lot of people to accept and understand. We have never let our personal relationship intervere with our competitiveness on the ice, and we believe our career achievements show that very clearly. We've always kept personal and professional separate, and we hope our teams, our fans, and the league can do the same.
SPEAKER_02Yes. That was great. I loved that. That was in 34.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But then you obviously there's the trophy room. If you know, you know. So hot. I can't wait for that.
SPEAKER_01Can somebody do that to me, please?
SPEAKER_02But chapter 35 is when things get kind of wild.
SPEAKER_04No, I'm sorry. We're going back to that trophy room. I'm sorry. Sorry. I still I'm still my head is still in the middle.
SPEAKER_02Give us every detail.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I love. Wait.
SPEAKER_02Are your parents still here? That's the first line of chapter 34.
SPEAKER_04God, this was so hot. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Shane was so tight, so perfect and hot. Oh shit. And the vibrations from the ring that was rumbled behind Chili's balls filled incredible on it.
unknownPlease God. Stop.
SPEAKER_04We might as well have a Patreon. We might as well just put that on OnlyFans.
SPEAKER_03It is funny, but I have to give them some kind of little preview of what to expect if they haven't read the book.
SPEAKER_04Let them read the book. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Fine.
SPEAKER_04Okay, no, but what I loved was the fact that. Uh no, what I love is the fact that Ilya brought Shane to that room, told him to get on the chair in a specific position, and then Ilya went to go. Went to go. Like, get a glass of water, find a leaf.
SPEAKER_02It was so funny. And he's like, Did you go to the store?
SPEAKER_04That was so funny. Because Shane was destroying him with his obedience. Fucking finally. Did you go to the store or something? No. And then.
SPEAKER_02What does he say after that? I can't remember.
SPEAKER_04It's sexual. I'm not gonna say it out loud.
SPEAKER_02I will.
SPEAKER_04No. What? This is a smile. I know, but when it goes into detail, it's like it's a lot.
SPEAKER_02Fine.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_02But if you know, you know.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yeah, just read the book, alright? Then you'll understand. But what I love is when he points Shane towards the trophies. And oh my god. As he's like going in and out of him.
SPEAKER_02Oh that you'll say.
SPEAKER_04That was very induendo, okay?
SPEAKER_02Whatever.
SPEAKER_04When he was going in and out. When he was going to In and Out.
SPEAKER_05In and Out Burger.
SPEAKER_04And he goes, Are you all turned on thinking about your many accomplishments?
SPEAKER_08Oh yeah, that was kind of hot.
SPEAKER_04And it's just very, it's very good. Because then Ilya loved it when Shane got like this, when he was flying too high to be annoyed or embarrassed. Do you want to know a secret? He bent over to Shane so he could speak directly in his ear. I feel like I'm a fucking king right now. And tugged his head back. And do you know how powerful this feels? Fucking a king in his throne room. Oh no, that's wait, that's what he says. I feel like I am fucking a king right now.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04In his in his throne room. And this is so funny. And he's just encouraging him to be like, remember who you are. Even though right now I'm fucking you in this chair in the middle of this room. Remember who the fuck you are. Otherwise, I will remind you again and again and fuck you again and again in this room.
SPEAKER_02That was really hot. That was really hot.
SPEAKER_04He goes, Um, you are Shane fucking Hollander. If you ever forget that, I will drag you back in here and fuck you until you remember. And we will share our trophy room someday, he stammered. Yes, a fucking empire. And he tilts his head back against Ilya's shoulder, a dynasty. And then that's when they finished. Yeah. It's like, okay, yeah, that was really hot.
SPEAKER_02That was really freaking hot. Oh my god. I love that scene. That scene's awesome.
SPEAKER_04Uh if they really wanted to make it really dirty, he could have possibly finished inside of one of the trophies. Maybe they won't the show. Don't even like that. And then, of course, Shane has to ruin it and be like, I think I ruined the chair. And then Ilya said, Is it it is another trophy now? Gross.
SPEAKER_02That was funny. That was hilarious.
SPEAKER_04I just I loved it. It's such a power move for Ilya to be such in control of Shane, but to also equally be reminding Shane how powerful Shane is. Yes. How much of a king he is, how strong he is, and like encouraging him. Like, you are a beautiful, wonderful, fucking amazing person, and you are a king of an empire, a dynasty. And it's just like, do not fucking forget that. Otherwise, I will drag you back into this trophy room and fuck you until you remember.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That was really hot. That was really fucking hot.
SPEAKER_04That was really fucking hot.
SPEAKER_02I cannot wait for that. Because I know they I think they said they were gonna put it in the show.
SPEAKER_04I I do think, okay, the Las Vegas um in He Did Rivalry, the first book. That was hot, but that was fucking hotter. Yeah. That was amazing.
SPEAKER_02Rachel Reed said, I'm gonna make this book, next book, thicker and wetter.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Quite literally, quite literally.
SPEAKER_02Um anything else on 34, or do you want to go to 35?
SPEAKER_0135 is good. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02The NHL statement is wild. Do you remember what they said?
SPEAKER_04Is it the slow part?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, read that.
SPEAKER_04For nearly 11 seasons, Shane Hollander and Ilya Rosnov have been elite players in the NHL. Their skill and performance on the ice demonstrates a rare level of talent that thrills hockey fans everywhere. Earlier this week, a video was circulated on social media that depicted Mr. Hollander and Mr. Rosenov in an intimate embrace. After being questioned by the league's commissioner, Roger Croell, both players have confirmed that the incident was a prank. They were pulling on their mutual friend, Hayden Pike. Both men regret their actions and the confusion it may have caused. They will return to their teams before their next scheduled games. Which is so stupid because why would you try and prank your friend by kissing your other friend?
SPEAKER_02First of all.
SPEAKER_04Like Fuck you, Krull. First of all, yes.
SPEAKER_02Fuck you.
SPEAKER_04But also, like, who I'm sorry. Who the fuck? Who does that?
SPEAKER_02Especially, yeah, especially like in like that. Who's the fuck's gonna believe that?
SPEAKER_04Who the fuck is gonna believe that? And it was such a passionate kiss that, like, that's not really like a prank level kiss. You can't make that shit up.
SPEAKER_02No. Fuck you, Carl. He's so stupid. But like, he was, oh my god, this was so scary, but so powerful, because he was just like, you know, if you guys need Shane's bike, but it isn't true, and he's like, it doesn't matter. And he goes, it does fucking this one. Shane gets pissed. He's like, it does matter. It wasn't a prank. We're together and we're getting married this summer. And Carl was like, not if you want to remain in the league.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's wild.
SPEAKER_02That's wild. And then they were just like, oh. And he's like, he was just like so mean to them and so horrible. And he was just like. And then what I loved is that.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_02I'm trying to find it.
SPEAKER_04It was so after they leave the room?
SPEAKER_02They were like no, um that's one of my favorite parts. One of my favorite parts, uh maybe. Where is it?
SPEAKER_04Can I explain mine real quick?
SPEAKER_02When he just says, for a long tense moment, they were only the only sound was three men breathing angrily, because they Josh talked about how like he's like, You're destroying your own brands with this shit, you know, blah blah blah. And he's like, you know, you're flaunting your relationship, you know, you'll be jokes, choose carefully. And Shane, with no hesitation, stood up and said, I choose him. Come on, Ilya. And they fucking left.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02No hesitation whatsoever.
SPEAKER_04And then I loved that. They both grabbed their coats from the back of their chairs and left. Carla was yelling something after them as they left the room, but Ilya didn't care. He put on his coat, took Shane's hand, and walked purposely towards the elevators. He was so full of love and adrenaline that he felt like he might explode. Once the elevators doors once the elevator doors closed behind them, Shane said, Sorry if I steamrolled that. Ilya didn't let him finish that, finish his sentence. He crowded Shane against the mirrored wall and kissed him ferociously. He sank his fingers into Shane's stupid hair and just devoured him, putting everything he felt into it because there was choosing Ilya over hockey, but then there was looking Krull dead in the eye and basically telling him to go fuck himself. He never would have asked that of Shane, and Shane had done it anyway. He hadn't even hesitated.
SPEAKER_02No hesitation. That was so sweet and so powerful. And I hate Krull. I wrote that in all caps. I hate Krull with a burning passion.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, everybody should.
SPEAKER_02He's homophobic. He's one of those delusional homophobes that denies being homophobic even when he shows it.
SPEAKER_04He'll be like Rachel Reed was very good at writing such a dislikable character.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Same with Dallas Kent.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But like Krell was he's like, he he's like one of those people that's like, I don't hate gays, I just don't like it when men are together. That's like saying I that's like saying that's like saying I'm not sexist, I just don't like women.
SPEAKER_04That's the same fucking thing.
SPEAKER_02It's the same thing. I'm like, you're one of those people like people in denial that thinks you're not homophobic when you are.
SPEAKER_07You are.
SPEAKER_02You are, you know what I mean? Like, shut up, don't deny it. You're homophobic.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like shut the fuck up. That had me raging. That was and Shane recorded the meeting.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Oh my god. Which we do not get closure on, by the way, which really upsets me.
SPEAKER_02I'm hoping something happens in Unrivaled.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But that was a power move. Yeah. And then Ilias says Hayden is a good guy. And they posted their statement. And then Shane and JJ chat. They, you know, he's upset that he told Hayden not him, but they they figure things out.
SPEAKER_01You know, they Oh, but do they posted pictures of themselves on social media?
SPEAKER_02That was fucking adorable.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That was fucking adorable. Oh my god, I have to read this. 375. Go to 375. It was. The coach's speech was powerful. He said, it doesn't, coach waved a hand. It doesn't matter that we don't have the playoff experience that most teams have. Some people will say that experience is the most important thing, but I think it's in the heart. I think it has more to do with working together than it does with following a few leaders. I believe in this group. These past few months, we've shown everyone how well this team works together. That was just so it was so powerful to me. Just the coach just showed like they've lost and lost and lost and lost like all the time. And the coach still believes in them. And is just so like supportive of them. And it's just great. And I loved that. And are Troy and Harris engaged?
SPEAKER_01So yet.
SPEAKER_02They were kind of hinting at something, or maybe like foreshadowing that they will get married someday.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Because on 376 it says, um it says, yeah, well. Ilya was uh I think it was uh maybe I'm delusional. Where the fuck was it? Oh, uh Wyatt gave Ilya a hug and said thank you, and then he said why it said no problem. Wyatt patted him on the back. Just try not to make your wedding day the same day as Harris and Troy's, okay?
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_02Are they engaged?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. There's so many mystery things in here sometimes, and I'm like, what are we not supposed to know? Like, what's going on? And Shane's cool with Troy now. He was kind of iffy at first.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02But now he's he's chill with them.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02And then, like we talked about, Montreal loses Shane's trip. Um, to from Shane's trip, and JJ and Hayden thought, but JJ and Hayden thought it was everyone thought it was on purpose except JJ and Hayden. No, JJ thought it was on purpose at first. And then I think yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? The trip. Hayden was like, guys, come on. Like, he's our leader. Why are we disrespecting him like this? Yes. Yeah. And Hayden is such a good friend. But low key, other than like JJ comes around in the end, but low-key, the Montreal team is kind of they're kind of a bag of dicks. They're really mean to Shane.
SPEAKER_03They really are.
SPEAKER_02They're so mean to him. And Shane's going to Ottawa now. Now he's going to Ottawa. And this is. Are you okay?
SPEAKER_04I'm getting to that part where you're gonna start crying again? Yeah, they're chasing after the puck again.
SPEAKER_02Oh, when Shane trips?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But it's sorry, continue. Continue.
SPEAKER_02Shane. I I moved on to a different chapter. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04Which chapter?
SPEAKER_0237.
SPEAKER_04Oh fuck. No, we've got more to say about chapter 36. Then say it. Okay. Because Shane started wearing the ring.
SPEAKER_02Yes, because he got his own.
SPEAKER_04Yep. And Shane's ring has to be changed by Yeah. Um isn't this when they're skating and she need trips?
SPEAKER_02Thirty-six.
SPEAKER_01Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_02Did you find it?
SPEAKER_04Yes, okay, three eighty-two.
SPEAKER_09Yep. From there.
SPEAKER_04When Ilya took off, Shane and darted after him within seconds they were in the center line completely alone, and Shane was in a good position to cleanly poke the puck away from him. He was just about to do that when instead he stumbled forward and went crashing to the ice in a frustrated heat. He was helpless to do anything but watch Ilya carry the puck to the net and bury it between Dapeau's pads. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Shane couldn't believe it. Montreal's hopes for a repeat Stanley win, their hopes for eliminating fucking Ottawa, and had just been crushed because Shane had tripped. And then fast forward.
SPEAKER_08Yep.
SPEAKER_04Um I can't believe I fucking tripped, JJ said Shane said to JJ as they were tossing their jerseys into the laundry bin. Did you? What's that mean? JJ stared at him for a few seconds and shook his head. I don't know, Hollander, just fuck. Tell me it was a mistake. What? Shane couldn't believe this. You think I fell on purpose? That I let Ilya score? Camus stood from where he'd been slipping in his stall. I know what I saw, what everyone saw. It didn't look like an accident. Well it was. What the fuck? Everyone in the room was staring at him now. Shane turned to face as many of his teammates as he could. You guys don't actually think I fell on purpose, do you? There was mostly silence, with some muttering in both French and English. Finally JJ blew out a breath and said, No, I don't think that. Suddenly, Hayden was at Shane's side. Of course we don't fucking think that. Come on, guys. Shane would never betray his team.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. And then JJ's supportive of it too.
SPEAKER_04Oh, and then he called his mom. I they think I fell on purpose. He said, What? Yeah. He said that. I want names.
SPEAKER_02I love Yuna.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love her. She's great. She's so oh my god. She oh I'm so sorry. You kicked my knee earlier. So let's not do that though. Um anything else on 36?
SPEAKER_01Because we should probably let's go to 37.
SPEAKER_0237. Um Shane's going to Ottawa. Ilya had Dave and Yuna and Shane watch his game in Ottawa, which I think was fucking adorable because it was talking about how he's never had family come watch his game before. And that was really sweet. And I think Scott was there too.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I know Scott comes in at one point. Or yeah, Scott comes in. That's all they have on 37. Do you have anything else on 37 or no?
SPEAKER_00I don't.
SPEAKER_02Okay, good. So in 30. Or no, that is in 37 still. Scott finds out about Shane and Ilya. Finally.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Finally, he knows. And they're all friends now. But they said Scott was the reason why they felt comfortable, you know, like, and you know, felt like they could do it was because of Scott. And then he was like, we didn't kiss on live television, but yeah. That was funny. Um, and then we already knew this, but Troy's getting a house outside of Ottawa for Chiron to stay on. But Ilya's still depressed. He's still depressed and he doesn't know why. And he tells Shane, he's like, hey, I'm not okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because Ilya was like, if you're going to get married to me, then I should probably open up about a few things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And then 38. Shane turns 30. Shane is 30 years old, but he's not on diet anymore.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, at what point? That was really fucking funny.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_04At what point does he text Ilya and was like, I ate a Snickers bar.
unknownYes!
SPEAKER_02Yes! That was funny because they were they were already outed and Ilya was just like, oh, was it good? Or something like that. That was so funny.
SPEAKER_01When was that?
SPEAKER_02I don't know, but I know it was after they were outed because they're both so stressed out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then Shane, yeah, that was so fucking funny.
SPEAKER_02That was hilarious. But I like that um they announced that they're getting married over Instagram.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That was adorable. Fucking adorable. Um to be quite to be honest with you, I didn't know this book was gonna feature a wedding.
SPEAKER_04I didn't either.
SPEAKER_02I didn't think it was gonna be in here. I think I thought we were gonna have to wait till unrivaled.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, be too. But I was like I didn't have to.
SPEAKER_02I know, me too. So they chapter 39, Sharon. Shane met Harris.
unknownOh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which was cute. They and then uh this is what made me nearly want to throw up, sob, and cry myself to fucking sleep. When they're getting ready for the wedding, this is in chapter 39, Ilia is talking to David about how much of a father he's been for him. That made me so can I read that?
SPEAKER_04Can I meet the final one?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, read it, please.
SPEAKER_04Okay, okay, wait.
SPEAKER_02It was so emotional.
SPEAKER_04We could only have one child.
SPEAKER_08Yep, here we go.
SPEAKER_04David said quietly. We thought about adopting, but we decided in the end to just focus on making Shane the best person we could. I think we did an okay job of it. Ilya smiled at the understatement. We couldn't be prouder of the man he's become. David continued, I don't have any Stanley Cup rings, but I have Shane. Ilya swallow Ilya swallowed. I I'll take care of him. I know. Um what I'm trying to say, and Yuna's always been better been the better speaker, is I've always felt so lucky to have a son as wonderful as Shane that I never expected to be blessed with a second one. It's not fair that you don't have family here on your wedding day. And I'm not trying to overstep, but that was all Ilya let him get out before he engulfed David in a tight hug. My family is here, he said simply, and with surprising steadiness.
SPEAKER_01I know. I teared up a little bit just now. I know. That's so sweet.
SPEAKER_02And that part made me like want to cry. Um, the wedding overall was beautiful. I'm like, how they didn't have chairs. It was just lights.
SPEAKER_01Very simple wedding.
SPEAKER_02I know, and I and it even Rachel Reeb is like, that's just them, though. They wouldn't care. No, they wouldn't. But I do have a bone to pick, though. So the wedding was overall awesome, so cool. You know, they get married. Ryan and Ilya nearly broke down while they were trying to get married, which is also really emotional. Ryan and Fabian are there.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02Uh Harris and Troy are there. Rose meets Fvetlana, which was awesome. And Hayden or Jackie are there. Where the fuck are Scott and Kip? They were not there.
SPEAKER_01I'm so surprised. Where are why weren't they at the wedding?
SPEAKER_04Did you notice that? Maybe it's because they weren't as close with them.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I just feel like they they should have been there. I mean, Shane and Ilya weren't at uh Scott and Kip's wedding, but then again, they didn't know about Shane and Ilya at the time. But then again, Kyle and Eric also weren't at the wedding.
SPEAKER_04Well, they don't really have a close connection with Kyle and Eric.
SPEAKER_02Not really. But maybe maybe it's kind of like a situation where it's like they're not really that close with Scott and Kip, but like Kyle and Eric are kind of close to Scott and Kip.
SPEAKER_06They are.
SPEAKER_02And sounds like Shane and Ilya are kind of close with Ryan and Fabian and Harris and Troy.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02So maybe that's what it is. But I kind of hope they get close to Scott and Kip. Because Shane has never met Kip. Isn't that interesting? But overall, happy ending, beautiful, so amazing.
SPEAKER_04I still, okay, to be fair to BH, I don't like how they danced to Rihanna's diamonds. I feel like that was really, really lame.
SPEAKER_02I I didn't mind it just because, like, I mean, I don't love the song, but like I definitely think that, you know, I mean, then again, it's Rachel's book. She definitely wanted to fit what she maybe that's a personal song to her. You know what I mean? Like, if that makes sense. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Okay, fair. I can't bash that.
SPEAKER_02Right, exactly. So maybe it's a connection that she has. Maybe that was played at her wedding. You're gonna play it? Play it. Turn it up. We'll skip to the good parts. More. Maybe that's what I'm doing. It's okay. It's just it's you you weren't feeling it. That's okay.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02It's not for anybody. It's okay to have opinions.
SPEAKER_01That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02Let's go ahead and review it. How many stars? How many stars are we given this?
SPEAKER_04Oh, five. Six. Six, eleven, twelve. Million.
SPEAKER_02A million stars.
SPEAKER_04The whole Milky Way galaxy.
SPEAKER_02One word to describe it?
SPEAKER_04Fantastic. Exuberating. Enchanting. No, shut up.
SPEAKER_02Not enchanting. Um.
SPEAKER_04Exciting. Powerful. That was a lot of words. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Um, powerful is a good one, but I was gonna say, um. Oh my god, what's the fuck's the word? I can't think of it. Um I would uh yeah, I'd say powerful.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Powerful for sure. Um, would I read it again? Fuck yeah. Yeah I probably will re- we'll probably reread it. Truthfully, we'll probably reread it next June before the next book comes out.
SPEAKER_01That's a good point.
SPEAKER_02Um, I loved it. It was great. Such a good book. I cannot wait for Unrivaled. Um, but yeah. Um
Icy Pour
SPEAKER_02one thing I do want to go ahead and move on to real quick, if that's okay with you. Um so I just found out about a new book that's coming out.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Is this the name, date, author, yes?
SPEAKER_02I will. I'll give you the name, the date, the author. You can pre-order it. Uh I think you can digitally pre-order it for now, but I'll drop a link maybe in our bio for a little bit.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Um, but it's called Icy Poor. And the author is Ellie K. Drake. I met her at Hockey Romance Night.
SPEAKER_06Nice.
SPEAKER_02She was very sweet. And she had told me then, she was like, keep an eye out. I'm having an MM romance come out soon. And I was like, oh, okay. And sure enough, it's about two bart bartenders, Walt and Johnny, in the 80s here in Milwaukee. And I'm so stoked for that. That sounds so cool. We're probably gonna find so many little Easter eggs from like Milwaukee, and I just I cannot wait for that. It comes out September 10th, 2026. So, and I asked her, I was like, if we'd love to have you on at one point, that would be so fun.
SPEAKER_04That'd be so fun.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, I wanted to give her a little shout out when guys go look at her stuff. She has really great books, she does a lot of hot uh hockey romance, so she's gonna be having that come out, and I'm really excited. So get ready for September.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited, awesome.
SPEAKER_02Um, I think we need to
Birthday Cake
SPEAKER_02cut some cake now, shall we?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I can we okay.
SPEAKER_02We'll be right back. We're gonna go get the cake. BRB. Give me the letter big flames. That's fine Mr.
SPEAKER_01Firehouse.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I shall cut. I can take those candles and put them on a uh oh, I love that smell. I don't know why, but I do. It smells like birthday fire. Birthday fire. Okay, I shall cut. We don't have a cake cutter, so we're using the same knife that we used for my cake a few weeks ago. There's literally like it's specifically cut for cake.
SPEAKER_04Is it like a whole thing that like goes over the cake?
SPEAKER_02That would be nice, but no. Do you want a big slice?
SPEAKER_04Yes, please.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Is that good? I did it right here.
SPEAKER_04That's fine.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Y'all just send me a picture of what this cake cutter bullshit looks like.
SPEAKER_02I will. I will happily do that. What?
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Hold on. Hey, you distributed it, you were way more prepared than I was. Oh my god. Okay, I'll grab a fork. Two forks, to be specific. Okay. While we eat cake, sorry, I'm a little behind
Bookclub Questions
SPEAKER_02the things right now. While we eat cake, we're gonna talk about. Well, there's these book club questions that we got from Wellward Danzel, but I thought of some custom ones. Is it good? I thought of some custom ones that I think would be fun to ask. So, my first question is I'm gonna ask you this. Who would you trust with your drink?
SPEAKER_09That's a good question, isn't it?
SPEAKER_04Shane.
SPEAKER_02100%. 100% Shane.
SPEAKER_09Shane would have anxiety about like dust getting in it. And so would I.
SPEAKER_00Barrett from off campus.
SPEAKER_09Who? Garrett, yeah. Honestly. Like, I would have I would trust Shane with my drink. I'm just gonna ask you these questions.
SPEAKER_02Um what do you serve at a dinner party with the main characters? I'm asking the culinary person here.
SPEAKER_01Pizza.
SPEAKER_02Pizza? For Shane and you gotta make sure Shane can eat it. Put some spinach on there.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_09You could.
SPEAKER_04I would do like a two different types of pizza. One for Shane, one for Ilya. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Alright, one more. Which character needs a spin-off book?
SPEAKER_09I was gonna say Luca too. Okay. Now you can ask me some. Or you can make custom ones.
SPEAKER_00Who would you trust with your drink?
SPEAKER_09Kip.
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_09I'd trust Kip. I'd trust Kip and Shane. Scott too.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, the three of them, I would trust.
SPEAKER_00Okay. You're gonna hate me for this.
SPEAKER_02I probably am. Don't say fuck Mary Kill or I will throw this plate at you. You think I'm joking, but I'm not joking.
SPEAKER_00If you do, I'm going home and we're not going to the store. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I won't do it. I zon'.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02Yzelkum.
SPEAKER_00Fuck Mary Kill. Kip. I'm giving you three options. You cannot choose on your own. Kip.
SPEAKER_01Harris. Ilya.
SPEAKER_02Mary Kip. I hate you. Happy birthday, but I fucking hate you. Um, Mary Kip. Fuck Ilya. Kill Harris, unfortunately. I love them all though. Why'd you do Valid. Why did you do that to me though? Do you hate me that much? No, I don't. Are you sure? I'm fair. Okay, what's my next question? You got one more. Three for each of us.
SPEAKER_08This was really good.
SPEAKER_04Give this book a new funny or dramatic title.
SPEAKER_09I saw that one on there and I tried to program myself, but I didn't.
SPEAKER_02Um The lovers. That's all I can think of. The lovers.
SPEAKER_03That'd be cute.
SPEAKER_02That'd be cute. No, yeah, that's gross. Amazing. Um.
SPEAKER_00Can we
Game Changer Series Ranked
SPEAKER_00rank them?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, let's rank them. Okay. So I this is a dedicated game changers episode other than your birthday. It's a game changers episode. Because we're done with the series. For now. But this is my ranking of the game changer series. And I'll let you write on here too. Unless you already have it in your head, then cool.
SPEAKER_00But I'll write on there to surprise you.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Number six, common goal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fair.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Number five, tough guy. Number four, role model. Number three, heated rivalry. Number two, game changer. And number one, the long game. Thoughts?
SPEAKER_06I think that's fine.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I would get hate for putting heated rivalry at number three. I'm just a you know, I love I have a big heart for Scott and Kip. I love their story so much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I love all these stories, but I really like Scott and Kip's story. Okay. Here you are. The game changer series ranking. Sarah's turn. And you're gonna read them out loud to me.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02And then we're gonna play with fire. I'm joking.
SPEAKER_07Okay. So sorry.
SPEAKER_10That was just a little funny.
SPEAKER_04Here's my thing about part one and part two and part three of stories. Any kind of whatever it is. I would say unlike you know Harry Potter and Twilight and Lord of the Rings, in which, you know, there are like separate Yeah, like finales are split into Hunger Games. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like endgame in Infinity War, except they're not called part one, part two, but it's the same story.
SPEAKER_04You know, maybe not Lord of the Rings, but like like Star Wars, where you know you It's a continued story. It's a continued story, but it's more so like Harry Potter, you know, each one has a different plot.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I would say Heated Rivalry and Long Game, it's basically just the same book.
SPEAKER_10Yes.
SPEAKER_04Same story, and so I don't like to separate them. So I put them as number one.
SPEAKER_10Both of them?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_10Okay.
SPEAKER_04Because that's gonna that was gonna be obvious.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I gave you number one first, but we'll start with number five.
SPEAKER_02Uh number six, you mean?
SPEAKER_04No, number five. Because I think it's a I feel like I know what it is, but what do you think it is?
SPEAKER_02Common goal.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02I knew it. Because I remember back when we were reading it, you were like, so I gave it three stars.
SPEAKER_03Don't lie. Me when I lie.
SPEAKER_02I was like, but you were like, what are we gonna maybe? And I was like, don't lie. No, you wouldn't. Okay, what do you have next?
SPEAKER_04Game changer.
SPEAKER_10Okay.
SPEAKER_04Is number four. Number three is Tough Guy.
SPEAKER_10I know you liked that one.
SPEAKER_04I did. Number two, role model.
SPEAKER_10Role model's so good.
SPEAKER_04And then number one, he did Rivalry and Long Game.
SPEAKER_10That's valid.
SPEAKER_04They're all so good. They're all really good, but I definitely my top two are Troy and Harris because that was just such a cute, like, Hallmark kind of a story. And then he did Rivalry and Long.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. So cute.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_10So cute. I loved it. It was awesome.
SPEAKER_04I feel like such a basic bitch for being like, oh my god, this the main singer of One Direction is my favorite singer. Like, well, of course you fucking pick that. You're a basic bitch.
unknownAnyway!
SPEAKER_04But like, to be fair though, I just I just love Shane and they're so funny and they're so cute. And like their dynamic is just It's incredible. It's so cute.
SPEAKER_02It's incredible. Alright, we're moving on to our next segment, which is just an announcement is that we will be taking a break from reading for a little for maybe a few weeks. Um we're gonna be watching some shows and movies that we're gonna review on here. And like we don't have to watch the same thing, we can just talk about it in general, just to talk about it. I started a show called Overcompensating, which is really good. If you want to give that a uh Yeah, for sure. Yeah, go for it. Um but we're gonna be talking about movies and shows for a little bit. Um if you have any recommendations, feel free to drop them down below. That would be great. Um and we will be announcing what our next book is very soon. Um and we'll be doing uh fun little segment where we spin a wheel to see what we're gonna read next. Maybe I don't know about the next book we will, but we will be doing that at one point. Which will be fun.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um and then a little announcement. Um
WRD Pride Event
SPEAKER_02there obviously Pride Month is coming up. We're if you're you know look here in Milwaukee, the uh Wisconsin Center is having an event for um the Wisconsin Center is having an event for Pride. It's a Pride Book Fair, hosted by the Wild Red Damsel. If you know Natasha, she's so nice, so sweet. She's hosting this event. It's gonna be so cool. Um, but I will be there with a booth, with a table talking about Beyond the Closet, um, you know, awesome pride stuff that I'm gonna be handing out, some cool bookmarks that Sarah and I are gonna make. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So if you're gonna be there, feel free to say hi. I would love to talk to you guys. It's gonna be so much fun, but Pride's just an amazing month, and I cannot wait to do this. It's gonna be so much fun. But that's all I have on my end.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, sadly I cannot be there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Sarah won't be there.
SPEAKER_00I have other prior engagements that I have to do.
SPEAKER_02But we will be doing events together soon. So stay tuned for that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but um and don't be afraid to talk to Nick. I know he may look a little awkward sometimes, but he doesn't bite.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I I do look awkward all the time, but I don't bite, I promise. Um, but yeah, I'll see you guys there if you guys are going. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Um, make sure to say hi to me, and obviously say hi to Natasha, who's you know putting all this together. She's so good at that.
SPEAKER_04Tell her thanks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she's amazing. She's so amazing. It's awesome.
SPEAKER_00She's very good at what she does.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and if you haven't met a well-read damsel, stop by her store. We are quite literally going there in like five minutes. So but we're gonna cut this, we're gonna cut off today, and that's all we got for you. Happy birthday, Sarah. So we'll see you guys next week for episode 18. Oh my goodness. Have a good week. We will see you guys then.
SPEAKER_00Bye.