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Beyond the Closet Episode 22: Jobs and Fireworks
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Join Nick and Sara on Beyond the Closet! In this weeks episode Nick and Sara talk about how work has been for them, talk about the new books they just finished, "Poolside" and "How To Juggle Ballads and Blades" They have now swapped books and are going to read each others books! They talk about Red White and Royal Blue after the holiday weekend. Nick also talks about how he finished the show "Love Victor" and shares his thoughts on the ending. They also discuss new segment ideas that will be coming soon! And much more!
Hello and welcome. I'm Mick.
SPEAKER_05And I'm Sarah.
SPEAKER_00And this is Beyond the Closet.
Intro
SPEAKER_00Welcome to episode 22.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Crazy. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Been what? February, March, April, May, June, July, six months. Six months since we started this.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00That's kind of wild. Because we started the beginning of February. It was like what February 5th? I think our first episode date was. Because I remember making flyers for it.
SPEAKER_05Sure. Sure. I don't remember.
SPEAKER_00I think it was early February. But we're back. Last week we had a very special guest on, which was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_05That was Jenx.
SPEAKER_00Jinx was great. He was so much fun to talk to. Miss the guy already. But um yeah, again, if you don't follow him, go follow him. He has so much cool content and has so many awesome videos. He's on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter. I think he's on Threads too. Go follow him. He's one of my best friends. So yeah, give him a follow. And he it was honored to him to be our first guest, which I really liked, which was a lot of fun. We talked about the imitation game, we talked about Avatar Last Airbender.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we've really deep dived into the colour.
SPEAKER_00We filled him in on a lot of lore.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00Which is great. Um so how
How Are We Doing?
SPEAKER_00are you doing? How have you been?
SPEAKER_03Not bad.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh the AC is fixed, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Sorry. The AC is almost finally fixed. It just keeps blowing cold air on and off. So I'm like, okay, can you make it only do cold air, please? That'd be great.
SPEAKER_05You might be able to switch it.
SPEAKER_00That's what I tried. No. Like I just I just think there's something that needs to be adjusted.
SPEAKER_05I hate pain.
SPEAKER_00It's working though. That's good. That's good. Anyway, how are you?
SPEAKER_05Um Yeah, I've been so tired lately. I just working too much. Working too hard is what my coworker will say.
SPEAKER_00You're just like super like wiped. Yeah, I feel that. That was me all like two weeks ago.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. My coworker, Ramon, he always comes up to me and is like, don't work too hard. Okay. Like, don't worry.
SPEAKER_00What else am I supposed to do?
SPEAKER_05No. But he's sweet. He's always looking out for me and Stevie. So it's great.
SPEAKER_00I love that.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05So how are you doing?
SPEAKER_00I'm good. I there was a lot to do for my work as well. I also feel like I've been working a lot, but like it's also like not that serious to the point where I'm like, oh my god, like, you know, this is like it's not I I love my job.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00I just feel like sometimes I'm kind of just like, whoa, okay, dial it back. Yeah. You know, because just because there's a lot of events now since it's summer and kids are out of school.
SPEAKER_05So you you're in the hospitality industry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so like it's gonna be busy. Yeah. But like, I mean, I also get to plan really cool, fun stuff, which I really like, and my boss is the most flexible person in the world, and she's also the bomb, and we get along very well. We talk about the coolest things. She likes she likes heated wildly, she likes, you know, like she likes romance novels, you know, she likes books. She likes she has an Avatar tattoo. Like, yeah, I don't know if I told you that, but she has an Avatar tattoo.
SPEAKER_05That's really fuck what the fuck. I need to see this.
SPEAKER_00I haven't I yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's that's uh Emily.
SPEAKER_00That's Emily, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Emily, please send me a picture of your tattoo. I need to know. Or at least let Nick take a picture of it and then show it to me because I I need to see it. And I feel like knowing her, it's gonna be like something Nesta related.
SPEAKER_00Really? Yeah. I don't know what that means, but she's the bomb. She's the best. I she's literally Emily. Yeah, I love Emily. She's one of the best, she's literally the best boss I could ask for, especially in that kind of job. And she's taught me so much for like marketing-wise, so it really helps me like see what I could do for this podcast, too, of like how to like spread that we're out there, you know, and really like tell people who we are. So she's taught me a lot of cool stuff there. She's also taught me a lot of good stuff for like how to do deal with like damage control when it comes to like customers being upset and stuff like that. She's like, you kinda gotta dial it back and you kind of gotta like customer satisfaction. Yeah, like you know, you could tell them one thing and the next day it might change, but you kind of you might have to get yelled at, like it happens, you know, like it is what it is.
SPEAKER_05It's having that um wall up to where you can protect yourself, which is something that I was never good at. Yeah, and so if somebody I can only imagine working in front of house, and if somebody yells at me, I would just start crying.
SPEAKER_00Me?
SPEAKER_05I would like I would just be like, I'm so sorry that your steak is being rare and you wanted it well done. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I feel that. I feel that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I would be a mess. Yeah, I that's why I work in back of house because I'm too emotional.
SPEAKER_00I have gotten used to the idea of like, you know, like because I worked in retail for a while too. I worked at like a grocery store when I was in when we were in high school. And I know you worked at like dominoes, right?
SPEAKER_05I did. I worked at dominoes. I started in front of house and then I went to back of house. Same thing with beer snobs. Oh yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00You worked there too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I was in uh front of house, I was running food to tables, and then I mentioned to the cooks that I wanted to go to school for culinary, and they were like, Well, shit, get back here. And so then the next day I was starting in the kitchen. Okay. Yeah, it was great. And then I was I was there for a year and they treated me fantastically. I I loved it.
SPEAKER_00So just go back there. Um I'll cut that out.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_00I'll cut that out if you want.
SPEAKER_05What what part?
SPEAKER_00To just maybe go back to working there.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I would that would be really fun, but should I cut that out though? I'm waiting no, you're fine.
SPEAKER_00Keep it in here. We're keeping this all in.
SPEAKER_05No, honestly, keep it in because people who I used to work with there wanted me out of that kitchen because they saw how much potential I had. Oh. And then I went to go work at Belfry. And then they were like, see, you're you're doing just fine. Like you're so sorry. No, not rude.
SPEAKER_00No, at first I didn't hear the Belfry part, and then I was like, You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05No, it was it was actually kind of a funny situation, and you know, like at the time I was really pissed about it, but I understood why they did it now, and like this was my theory. I have potential, and they all saw it. And so they started putting me on the schedule for less and less days. Yeah. Until I was only working one day one day a week.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And sorry. It was just the fear face was funny. It was a yeah. And um then so I was like, why are they kind of like pushing me out of the kitchen? Because I need I need this job, but they never explained why. And then I asked my I asked the owner, could I work in front of house? And I did that for a couple months, and I was like, I can't do this anymore.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, this no.
SPEAKER_05And I wanted to go back to the kitchen, and then they were like, Well, we don't have anybody to we we don't need anybody, and so I was like, fine, fuck it, I'll leave. And so then I left, and then I was spent the next four years at Belfry.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05And that was fantastic. I fucking love that job.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was a good job, and that's how you met Claire.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, you had known her beforehand.
SPEAKER_05But then we became a good one.
SPEAKER_00That's when you yeah, I was gonna say, that's when you all became trauma bonded into bestie dogs. Yep.
SPEAKER_05Um, but no, I love and it's great because I can talk about Belfry because now not even the same owner anymore.
SPEAKER_00Is it is Belfry even open anymore?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they're open.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_05Just a new owner, new people. Oh, okay. New everything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05No one there to make fun of.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, no, anyway, I love I love my job. I don't think all five have really told have we told our get our viewers what we do?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_00I don't know if we've told y'all what our jobs are.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because I'm just spewing out beer snobs, bell for any of that means. Okay, well, can I go first?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you go first.
SPEAKER_05Alright, so I started out at Domino's and Oh, okay, we're going to No, just give me a second. Okay. So yeah, I started at Domino's and I went to when I was in college, I was at Beer Snobs, and I went to a technical college for my culinary arts degree and spent the next three years doing that, failing classes, having to redo them. You're making a weird face.
SPEAKER_00No, I just feel that because I also had to fail I failed classes and had to retake them.
SPEAKER_05I was not a good student, like at all.
SPEAKER_00This is that WCC?
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_00I feel that.
SPEAKER_05And um then after college I went to um I worked several restaurant jobs. I went to there was a place, there used to be a place in a kind of walk called Coco's, they're now closed. Um I did Belfry for four years, and then after Belfry's shit went to shit, which place got sold, head chef was fired, so many things. Um but all beautiful, decent people that I still talk to today. Yeah. Um and um then now I work at the inn in Heartland.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05Great place.
SPEAKER_00Which is uh you are in the back of house.
SPEAKER_05Yes, sorry. I work in the back of house, I work as a line cook. Um right now I'm just their pasta cook.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. But I mean like No, I don't have at at like at both There's nothing bad to say about it.
SPEAKER_00No, there isn't.
SPEAKER_05There isn't. It's just um I granted I I get paid more, but I have like no responsibilities. Which is I mean I know most people You just cook. I just cook. Which I I know to most people that would be like, oh that's great. Like you don't have a lot of responsibilities. No, like at Belfry though, I was prepared to be sous chef. Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_00Clarence, tell me about that.
SPEAKER_05I knew everything about that place. And I was so upset when I never got the title.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'd be mad too.
SPEAKER_05And yeah. And then I went to the Heartland Inn and Small town that we live in, by the way.
SPEAKER_00That's where Heartland is.
SPEAKER_05Yep. And um I just I have no responsibilities and like noodles. I'm I'm very much of a control freak, and so I'm like, I wish I had more responsibilities, but I just don't. And there's no really need for it because there are other people.
SPEAKER_00Is that why you're able to text a lot at work?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00Is it okay that I said that? Yeah, that's fine.
SPEAKER_05They know I'm on my phone a lot. It's funny.
SPEAKER_00Because I'm over here, like, isn't she working?
SPEAKER_05Well. It's also because I'm in the way back corner, nobody really sees me.
SPEAKER_00Honestly.
SPEAKER_05And so like if I'm on my phone, if like usually when I'm on my phone, I'm standing at my station, my phone is like over here, and I'm just like I'll do this every yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.
SPEAKER_00I totally get that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm just like my phone and I'm just gonna go.
SPEAKER_00Do you like leave it on and then you like tap if it's about to fade?
SPEAKER_05Yes. I do that too. And um, but yeah, I mean, there are other great amazing people that have the responsibilities for me, so it's like Yeah. There's I mean, I'll I'll be there for the next few years if I have to be, and maybe then I'll get more responsibilities and get more get more stuff on the menu. But for right now, I'm also just so focused on this, my outside life, yeah, that I'm like, I'm fine without the responsibilities. It's it's okay. Because that way I get to focus on what I actually love is being at home, being with my cats, starting my garden, doing things with my house, stuff that I that I'm actually passionate about.
SPEAKER_00Fun hobbies and yeah, stuff like that for sure. Um So what do you do? So what I do is you already know what I do.
SPEAKER_05I do.
SPEAKER_00And you're I don't you sounded jealous when I when I when you when you after you came to my party.
SPEAKER_05A little bit, but I can't stand the idea of kids.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so just to clarify, this is what I do. So for those of you that are in Wisconsin, Milwaukee area, I work at a place called Air City 360. And it used to be this place called Stonefire Pizza, which was kind of like I don't want to s I want to say kind of like Chuck E. Cheese, but like better. But it went out of business. I know Alex has been. But it went out of business a little after COVID.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that makes sense. And COVID wiped it out.
SPEAKER_00COVID kind of wiped it out, yeah. And then they reopened it as Air City 360. And Air City 360 is essentially a trampoline park, it's an adventure park. Um, so we have trampolines, we have dodgeball, we have chappees, which is like the bar you can swing off, and then we have the jousting, and then we have a giant obstacle course, basketball court, soccer court, toddler area, laser tag, arcade, duck pin bowling, a bar, and like concessions. So there's a lot to do at my job.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00But what I essentially do is I'm what's called an event coordinator. So as an event coordinator, what I kind of do is I, you know, I'm full-time, obviously, and I'm there maybe three to four days a week. And usually four days a week on average. Um, but you know, there's kids' parties that are done on weekends for the most part. So there's like, say, I think this Saturday, there's like 11 parties on Saturday.
SPEAKER_05But you also do like corporate events, is what I've heard from you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm getting to that. But basically, like what I do is I kind of like coordinate things that are supposed to be going on and like kind of prep for those things. So like there's 11, there's 10 or 10 or 11 parties on Saturday. Monday, I was working and I called all those parties to be like, hey, like, you know, is this all the same? Are we changing anything? Is there anything? Do you have any questions? You know, we make sure we're all on the same page, that kind of thing. That's part of the coordinating job as well. And on the day of, I also host parties every now and then too. And I'll host a party and be like, okay, I'm your host, I'll take care of you guys safe. You have any questions, please feel free to ask me. So sometimes I'll do hosting every now and then, which is great. Um, but during the week, I do the party calls, I call them, but I also do like prospecting, excuse me. I do prospecting, which is pretty much just like kind of like finding places nearby that we could provide like an advertisement for us to be like, hey, like come have your event here, because we also do events for like schools, churches, corporate events, stuff like that. So like the other day there was a school event that came in and they had like 40 kids with them. So like I can run the show there too, and just pretty much just like make sure everything's in order, essentially. And then I have party hosts too, who are all fantastic party hosts that do a wonderful job every weekend. And I'm like really thankful for them because they are each have a party at certain times, and I'm like, hey, did we get this done? Did we get this done? Did we get this done? Is your party room clean? And then they go home. So they usually have like maybe like a three-hour shift. But I'm there to like usually like I love this this shift though, but I always work like a 10 to 6. I love 10 to 6's, I think they're a great balance. You don't have to get up too early, you're not off too late.
SPEAKER_05That is nice.
SPEAKER_00Love it.
SPEAKER_05Um what time's place open?
SPEAKER_00Um, I think we have summer hours now, but we usually open wanna say 10. I want to say sat Friday and Saturday, we're open 10 to 10.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00But like during the winter, we're closed on Tuesdays.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_00So that's why I was off. I'm off on Tuesdays in the winter.
SPEAKER_03Because we're close. That's true. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Because it's like maintenance day. Yeah. Usually it's like maintenance day for like things to get done around there. Um, but yeah. So I'm an event coordinator. I handle all those kinds of things, and we're planning some more events. But my boss Emily is the bomb. She's like also in the events area, obviously. She helps me with a lot of things of like learning new things, how to handle things. She's taught me a lot of professional things that I'm gonna be able to use in the future wherever I am, and I'm very thankful for that. And she's also big on you know, heated rivalry, books, romance novels, all that kind of stuff. She's been a Wellworth damsel. Like, we get along great. And shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's pretty much what I do, and I love it. It's a great time.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I had my so I just turned 25 and I had like a discount there. So I had my own party there last week, and it was me, Claire, Sarah, and all of our friends, Jinx and Kaylee were there too, and it was just a blast.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That was so much fun.
SPEAKER_05It was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_00That was a great time, and I'm really glad everyone had a good time because Alex and I had a really good time. It was so much fun, especially Laser Tag.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That was intense for no reason. And it was so much fun. We l you and I lost, but That's fine. It's fine.
SPEAKER_05I I know I suck at laser tag.
SPEAKER_00I do too, apparently. But yeah, so that's what we do.
SPEAKER_05I don't like playing laser tag with random kids though.
SPEAKER_00That's valid.
SPEAKER_05So I'm glad that we all did it as a group.
SPEAKER_00Well, there was like nobody there. That's why I also did it on a Monday, because there's nobody there.
SPEAKER_05That was nice.
SPEAKER_00Um, so yeah, that's what we do. Um, and that's how we're doing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So let's move on to what we're
Poolside and How to Juggle Ballads and Blades
SPEAKER_00here for.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, Sarah and I, obviously last week we talked to Jenks, and I think a little bit before that we had talked about some other things, but we've both been reading some books.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00And we both just finished our books. So we both just finished. I just finished Poolside by Taylor E. Weston, who have also been talking to as I read, and I'm over here like, girl, why are you doing this to me?
SPEAKER_05Um I love that for you.
SPEAKER_00It's been great. This has this is the summer book for me. Like, this has been wonderful. I don't want it. I didn't want it to be over.
SPEAKER_05You should always read it again.
SPEAKER_00I honestly might. Because I love it. Um, but I'm saying I'm gonna say, I can't say too much because I know you're gonna read it because we're doing the book swap. I don't know if y'all remember, but we're gonna swap our books now and read each other's books.
SPEAKER_04We can't say much.
SPEAKER_00We can't say much, but after we're done with both of these, have both read these books, we're doing a full-on review.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00So, but this is very um heartwarming at times. It's definitely got some uh funny moments. It's got a lot of uh cool South Carolina Easter eggs, because this takes place in Charleston, South Carolina.
SPEAKER_03Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_00And I personally think like you can look at the book and be like, summer read. Yeah, it's a pool. It's yeah. Oh, this is great. This is a great summer book. I haven't really read a summer book because I felt like all of these are obviously some of them take place in the summer, but to me, like hockey, I automatically think winter.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, for sure, because that just makes sense.
SPEAKER_00It's frozen water, yeah. So I'm like, I need something unfrozen. So it's like a pool, perfect. So Tommy and Chuck, I have been obsessing over for the last few days, and I just can't stop thinking about them. And I really enjoyed it. Um again, I can't say too much, even though I really, really want to, I can't say too much. Um but yeah, I'm really excited for you to read it. So, how was your book?
SPEAKER_05It was good. Um, the so at the beginning of the book there's uh these content warnings.
SPEAKER_00Yes, there's one at the beginning of mine too. I think we talked about that.
SPEAKER_05This mine has a whole list.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and it's signed too. That's cool. Both of ours are signed.
SPEAKER_05Yep, because we got them at the we got them from the authors themselves.
SPEAKER_00The what?
SPEAKER_05We got them from the authors themselves.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, that's right. Well, no, I didn't.
SPEAKER_05Oh, where'd you get yours?
SPEAKER_00This was at Welred Damsel, it just was already signed.
SPEAKER_05Oh, oh, that's right. Oh, I forgot about this.
SPEAKER_00Is that sick?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Oh. Okay. I like how they clarify pet loss mentions, not the main cat.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Just to clarify, it's not the main cat. You don't have to worry.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, better not be.
SPEAKER_00Vomiting. Screaming, crying, throwing up, vomiting. Um my gosh. Okay. This looks good though. I'm this definitely, I feel like I could read this in like a week.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05So yeah, it is a very, very short book. I love the attention to detail. I love the way that the characters are set up and the it's it was a slow burn.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's definitely, I think it's a little slow in the beginning. Yeah. I think it's uh slower than what I'm used to.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Did it take you a minute?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But I guess.
SPEAKER_00Okay, be honest. We're here, like, you know, like we it's how like authors probably appreciate the feedback.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, like Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well we will be more honest when we've read each other's books.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_05Because then we can really deep dive and talk about it from both of our opinions.
SPEAKER_00100%.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_00For sure.
SPEAKER_05Because you still need to read this. So.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you still need to read this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Okay. Or just there you go. All right. Bye, guys. All right.
SPEAKER_00We'll see you later. Bye. Bye.
SPEAKER_05It's nice talking to you.
SPEAKER_00So um, we have officially swapped books.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And these are the books that we're gonna be reading. And then as soon as we're done, we will review both of them.
SPEAKER_05Yep, and like really deep dive.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna be a long episode.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we're hyped for it. So, yeah, it's gonna be great. So let's go ahead and move on to our next thing. Okay, so
Red White and Royal Blue Re-Watch
SPEAKER_00moving on. I recently just rewatched Red, White, and Royal Blue. Yes. And I know you don't re-watch it because you've seen it 20 times.
SPEAKER_05I actually did re-watch it recently.
SPEAKER_00When?
SPEAKER_05When I was at my parents' house.
SPEAKER_00Oh really?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's fantastic. And it felt fitting because it's July, and I was just like, I think I should rewatch this. Yeah. And I was like, oh god.
SPEAKER_05I also, I just, I love, I forgive me, I do not know how to pronounce his last name.
SPEAKER_00Galitzin.
SPEAKER_05Galitzin?
SPEAKER_00I believe it's Galitzin, because we talked about him last week with Jinx.
SPEAKER_05Yes, we did.
SPEAKER_00I believe it's Galitzin.
SPEAKER_05I love it. I love Nicholas Galitzin.
SPEAKER_00He's so cute. So cute. I also really like Taylor. I don't remember his last name, but he plays Alex.
SPEAKER_05He is.
SPEAKER_00He's great.
SPEAKER_05He's great.
SPEAKER_00I love that movie, and honestly, re-watching it makes me want to reread the book. But it sounds like there's another book coming.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Red White Memorial Wedding.
SPEAKER_00That's a movie. It sounds like they're making another book, too.
SPEAKER_05Because we still have to have the wedding between Nick and Alex. Not Nick and Alex. I mean, I'd be happy to marry Alex.
SPEAKER_00I would be happy to marry Alex.
SPEAKER_05Alex and Henry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I'm just saying I'm not opposed.
SPEAKER_05Alex.
SPEAKER_00Sorry, sorry, Henry, but he's moved on. Um, no, I'm joking. Um, but yeah, no, I think there's another book coming out. I think it comes out like December. Um, but yeah, no, I know there's a movie coming out. That's gotta come out this year. Because they finished filming a while ago. I feel like that's gotta come out soon. Yeah. Um, but I love that movie. And I realized, do you remember Nora? You've seen it a million times, so you have to know who that is, or I'm gonna literally get upset. She's in Love Victor. Really? Mm-hmm. She's like one of the main characters in Love Victor. Well, so I was watching Love Victor and I was like, this girl looks so familiar. And then I was like, oh my god, she's like Alex's bestie in Red Bright and Royal Blue. That's what she's from. And she's great in it. Um, but I really liked it. But um, yeah, the Red Bright and Royal Blue, that's such a fantastic movie. If you haven't seen it, go watch it. It's such a good, it's a movie, it's so good.
SPEAKER_05It is really good.
SPEAKER_00It's good. The only issue I had with it compared to like if we're doing book comparison-wise, I really wish they included Alex's sister.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Yeah, because that would have changed a lot of the dynamic. Instead, they took Nora and kind of repl like filled in her role.
SPEAKER_00Which is fine. I love Nora. And I also love uh oh my god, what's Uma Therman? Oh my god, she's great. But who's her assistant? Oh my god, Zara. Oh my god, fucking hysterical. She's just like, okay, so you're the one who decided to put your dick into the air of the British throne. That Claire and I said it's gonna be so fucking funny.
SPEAKER_05But to be fair, at the beginning of the movie, she did say you're gonna hang out with him and you're gonna something about um I mean what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00It's such a weird thing to say. I don't know what it is. I can't remember how she says it, but something you're gonna love him so much, your ass is gonna be out of the sky or some shit.
SPEAKER_05No, it's like you're gonna be craving vitamin D.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05Which is like an innuendo for vitamin Dick. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Anyways, yeah, but she's great. I loved her, she was so funny. Um, overall, great movie. I'm really excited for the second one. Uh, we'll have to talk about that as that gets closer. Hopefully, we can react to a trailer when that drops.
SPEAKER_05That'd be amazing.
SPEAKER_00But moving on a little bit to Love Victor. I know
Love Victor Review From Nick
SPEAKER_00you haven't seen it yet. I still do think you should give it a watch.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_00Claire and I finished it like the entire series last night.
SPEAKER_05How long is the series?
SPEAKER_00Three seasons, ten episodes each.
SPEAKER_05Oh. Oh, that's not bad.
SPEAKER_00It's really short, and they're like 30 minutes, not even.
SPEAKER_05Oh. That's so that's like Heartstopper.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's quick.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, so we watched it, we started it maybe like a month ago, and we just finished it last night. The first two seasons are probably the best. But it's got, um, have you ever seen the show Never Have It Ever on Netflix? It's about that Indian family. No, you haven't seen that. Okay.
SPEAKER_05I have watched it, but Oh really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So he's also in that show. But this guy, I think his name's m- I don't know. I I want to say his name's Michael. That actor's name is Michael that plays Victor. I don't know for sure though, so don't quote me on that. But in this show, he looks just like Fabian. Like he's almost exactly how Fabian's described. Are you looking at Love Victor cast?
SPEAKER_05Which one are you talking about?
SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna click on him and then go to and put Love Victor next to it. Because I just I saw Fabian.
SPEAKER_05He would be a really good Fabian.
SPEAKER_00He would be a really good Fabian. But like he's great, and he's also in Never Have I Ever, which is also a really good show. Um, which is a fun watch. But I think you should watch Love Victor, it's really cute. It's also it takes place in Atlanta. Apparently Love Simon takes place in Atlanta too.
SPEAKER_05That's a hit home for you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I used to live I used to live in Georgia. Um so there's a lot of references to like things like George Tech, that's where my parents went to college.
SPEAKER_03That's cool.
SPEAKER_00There's references to Lake Lanier, which is where my grandparents like live, they live on that lake, and like that's like where I grew up, was pretty much on that lake. So that was pretty cool. It definitely wasn't filmed in Atlanta, though. You can tell it was filmed in LA. Um, it's a great show. However, Claire and I finished it last night. I I usually don't say this about gay shows, but I was really disappointed with the ending.
SPEAKER_03Really? Why?
SPEAKER_00So to me, if you're gonna have a story, and Stranger Things kind of did this perfectly too, if you're ending a show, unless it is canceled or whatever, I don't really know if the show was canceled or not. I don't really know why, but there's eight episodes in the last season instead of ten. Again, I'm not shitting on the show. This is a great show, just to clarify. I don't like how it was wrapped up. To me, if you're ending a show, you need to wrap up each character, you need to close their story arc.
SPEAKER_05That's exactly how it was with um just a lot of other shows.
SPEAKER_00They didn't a lot of shows do that. They didn't do that, and it pissed me off because there was this one guy who kind of liked this girl and they weren't really together, and we didn't really know if they were together, and you don't know. You don't know if they're together or not. And this other couple, they're going long distance, you don't know if they're done or not, or if they're together or not. And then Victor and his boyfriend, you don't really know if they're like official official.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00So I'm over here like, y'all should have had an epilogue of some kind of like a year later seeing where everyone's at. But it literally just ends right there. Me and Claire were kind of like, what the fuck? Like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_05That must be it must have gotten cancelled.
SPEAKER_00That sucks though, because it's such a good show.
SPEAKER_05But you know, I think.
SPEAKER_00And it's really a shame because I liked it. I liked it better than Love Simon.
SPEAKER_05Well, I was Claire Claire will relate relate to this on me. Um with this on will relate to it. She'll understand. Claire will understand. Um the shit, I can't remember the actual name of it, but the Anne of Green Gables TV show. Do you remember what that's called?
SPEAKER_00Uh Queen's Gambit?
SPEAKER_05Nope.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_05Give me two seconds, please.
SPEAKER_00What is it? Is it on Netflix?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is it It's not LGBTQ, is it?
SPEAKER_05There is LGBTQ references in it.
SPEAKER_00But have you ever seen that show?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00I didn't I don't even know what that show is. I've never heard of that. Is it recent? Is it new? I can't. I can't wait any longer, Sarah.
SPEAKER_04Anne Shirley.
SPEAKER_00Never heard of that.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_00What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_04It's not Anne Shirley.
SPEAKER_00You're talking about maid?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_00I've heard that's a good show too.
SPEAKER_04It's not Anne Shirley.
SPEAKER_00Are you sure the show is real?
SPEAKER_05Just Anne with an E.
SPEAKER_00Oh yes! I have heard of this. It's got Vicky from Stranger Things. Yes. Ah!
unknownI'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00Is the show real? Yeah, it is. What a so was that not a great ending?
SPEAKER_05No, because it was canceled.
SPEAKER_00No, really?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That sucks.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think it was after like four seasons or something where it got canceled.
SPEAKER_00You would think after like two seasons it shouldn't get canceled after that, because it's going.
SPEAKER_05But see, that's the thing. There was characters whose uh character lines didn't finish. And so she had this one Native American friend who went to the Native American school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Which, if you guys don't know about that kind of history, Native American schools in America, not a good story. Not a good history for our country. Um, but it's she's in this school, except she can't really get out, and she can't go home to her parents if she doesn't want to be there. If she's forced to be there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And her story just ends there. Sorry. Like she like we don't know if she ever gets out. She don't we don't know how she ends up or Oh god. Yeah. Yeah, and like sad too. And like her parents decided to move and make camp right outside the school. So that way she could they could always be close to their daughter.
SPEAKER_00Still, I hate that the I hate when shows end like that. I'm sorry, but like if you're gonna cancel it, if it's gonna get canceled, fine. But like give the writers time to wrap it up.
SPEAKER_05And literally.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'm sorry, but give them time.
SPEAKER_05That's how it was with Yellowstone.
SPEAKER_00Yellowstone did that too?
SPEAKER_05Yellowstone wasn't canceled, but it was the idea that their main character, actor, was leaving.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_05And so they had to wrap up the end of the show because they were like, well, if the main character is leav if this main actor is leaving, then kind of the whole story goes to shit. And so instead they just started to wrap it up, and that was season five.
SPEAKER_00Oh. You know, it's weird that like sometimes main characters do leave. Like Michael leaves the office, but they didn't end that right away.
SPEAKER_05No, they keep it going.
SPEAKER_00But like there are certain shows that will work with that, and then there are certain shows that won't. Like, I know you you didn't watch Victorious, right?
SPEAKER_05No, but I no, yes, I did.
SPEAKER_00That did not get a proper ending. No, it didn't. That was cancelled.
SPEAKER_05That was that that was very much like, oh, you just drove off a cliff.
SPEAKER_00It just like gone gone.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like there's an episode and then it's just like, no more. There's not even like a like proper ending. There's no ending to nothing. It's literally nothing. Which sucks, because like I actually really liked that show.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. That was like the only Disney show I liked.
SPEAKER_00That was a Nickelodeon. But yeah.
SPEAKER_05Nickelodeon show.
SPEAKER_00I don't I liked that in iCarly.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's what I like. But iCarly had an ending. iCarly had five seasons. That's a lot for like a kid's sitcom on like Nickelodeon.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Usually it's like four, they'll cut it. I've noticed that.
SPEAKER_05Valid. Um let me just clarify something here. I grew up on Cubo. 4-1, I believe, was what it was what it was. Either that or 3-1. But that was what I grew up on. On and I Jade and the Dragon, those kind of like kid TV shows. That and I did watch Hannah Montana.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05That I loved. I still love Hannah Montana. That was a good, good show. And I still listen to Miley Stars today. And um she but I just I never I did not grow up on Disney Channel. I never grew up on Nickelodeon. I never watched any of those shows.
SPEAKER_00She didn't watch like Spongebob. Just to clarify. She didn't watch Spongebob.
SPEAKER_05I didn't watch any of the base, like I didn't watch what everybody else watched.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And it was just because we just didn't have it, and nor did we need it. We were outside kids.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05We didn't really watch TV. We also read a lot of books growing up. So um, like so like like our iCarly and Victorious and everything, I never watched those. And I only ever watched them as an adult. Same with Avatar's Last Dare Mender.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I watched that as an adult. I never watched that as a kid.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I didn't realize I I don't know why I didn't put that together until now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. So good shows.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Even Alex to this day is like, do you remember watching Aunt Carly? And I'm like, no. Because you know that I never did.
SPEAKER_00I liked that show a lot. That was great. But now you can.
SPEAKER_05Because it's on Netflix. But also, I'm an adult. And if I watch that show. Or like Austin and Alley.
SPEAKER_00I loved Austin and Alley and Marco.
SPEAKER_05I cannot stand both shows anymore.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well, if you rewatch them, if you didn't, if put it this way.
SPEAKER_05I've never seen them, and I watch clips of them, and I cannot stand it.
SPEAKER_00If you this is what I was gonna say. If you didn't grow up on it and you didn't watch it as a kid, and you watch it as an adult, it's gonna suck.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's not gonna be entertaining.
SPEAKER_05It's not nostalgic.
SPEAKER_00It's not gonna be entertaining. Like me and Claire, we watched Lab Rats like a religiously. Like that was our favorite Disney XD show of all time. We have like a poster of it in our apartment. Like we love that show.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you do.
SPEAKER_00It's right by like it's right by like the bathroom. Um but we loved that show, and if we didn't watch it, and if we tried watching it now, we'd be like, why why are we watching this?
SPEAKER_05And see, that was my thing about going to Nostalgicon. I was like, I'm not sure. We didn't really know exactly.
SPEAKER_00That's fair, yeah. That's valid. Totally get that. Um so yeah, but I mean, Love Victor, like I said, it's a good show, but I just wish it didn't get cancelled. I was really upset about it. Yeah, but I still think you should watch it. I still think you would like it, and I think you would like these characters.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for sure. And it's short, yeah, and it's definitely it's just when am I gonna find time to watch this?
SPEAKER_00Honestly. Because we already have so much that we need to read and watch.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so we're gonna go over some fun segment ideas
New Segments!
SPEAKER_00that I came up with.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Let us know your thoughts.
SPEAKER_00Let's know your thoughts on this, but we're thinking about, you know, we have a summer book. We have our summer books that we're reading.
SPEAKER_05Oh, did you want to talk about Heartstopper?
SPEAKER_00I'll do that at the end. Okay. We'll talk about Heartstopper in a little bit. Don't worry. I I some of you are probably like, hey, that book just came out. Why are you not talking about it yet? Don't worry, we will be talking about it.
SPEAKER_05You have a hair that is I'll just take off my hat. Yep.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I had a why are you looking at me like that? Oh my god. For those who don't aren't watching this, Sarah's fixing my hair on camera, so please hold.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05I did not hurt you. You hurt me. I did not.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm joking.
SPEAKER_05Baby. There you go, that's why. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um so I came up with some ideas. I think what we could do is I think it'd be cool if we had a map of either the world or the United States or whatever, and we can shade off states and areas that we've read that where a story takes place there.
SPEAKER_05Yep. Or put a pin.
SPEAKER_00A pin on it would be cool too. Because then we could be like, how many we've read there?
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, we could do it like a criminal map and put pins.
SPEAKER_00You have to believe me, it's real like promise. He is the killer.
SPEAKER_05He is the common denominator for all of these books.
SPEAKER_00Independent variables. Makes no sense. Um, but yeah, we could do stuff like that. That'd be really cool. And we could also do like the world too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I also think it'd be cool if we did like a timeline.
SPEAKER_05You just get a globe. Like a globe would be so sick.
SPEAKER_00Like a styrofoam one?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so you can put pins in it and then put string going through it. My god, that'd be so cool.
SPEAKER_00That'd be so sick. Um, timeline would be cool too. But I also feel like timeline would get confusing because of like it's in a different world. It could get a little confusing. Like this pirate book we want to read is in like 1600s.
SPEAKER_05That's right. Oh, I'm so excited about that one.
SPEAKER_00But we also talk have talked about this before. We want to read decade books.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00So I definitely want to read Fellow Travelers. I think it's in the 50s or 60s. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_05Starts in the 60s.
SPEAKER_00But that'll definitely be one of them.
SPEAKER_05Starts in the 60s, go until the 90s.
SPEAKER_00Isn't it fried green tomatoes in the 80s?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00That could be our 80s book. There you go. Mm-hmm. Or one of them, unless we decide to do more.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I would love to do like that, what do they call it? Is it the 10s? Is that what they call that?
SPEAKER_05Like 1910s.
SPEAKER_001910s, 1920s would be good.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_0030s would be fun, 40s would be fun, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and then we'd like to.
SPEAKER_05I want a sapphic romance set in the 20s.
SPEAKER_00See, that would be great.
SPEAKER_05That's what I want. That would be. Because the 20s are meant for sapphics.
SPEAKER_00That's giving Elisa E. Marcello.
SPEAKER_05It's I thought I was thinking Greg Gatsby.
SPEAKER_00That too. That'd be great. Yeah. I think we need to go to Wellread Damsel and kind of just like ask, make a list and be like, hey, so this is what we're kind of looking for. Yeah. Do you know if you can help us? So we're looking to do that and like maybe have themed stuff for each um decade we go through.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I think we'll make like we can make the episodes black and white. We can make them static with like a recording where it looks like it's a camcorder in the 80s.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_00And you can make your hair look really fluffy.
SPEAKER_05I could. I could try.
SPEAKER_00Just make it look like Allie's from off campus minus the bangs.
SPEAKER_05She has really thick hair.
SPEAKER_00Girl, but you'd be able to pull it off.
SPEAKER_05Maybe.
SPEAKER_00You would.
SPEAKER_05I'm not cutting myself.
SPEAKER_00So those are some of our ideas. But we also talked about um oh, what was it? Um yeah, we talked about that, and then we talked about maybe doing like themed books for each month.
SPEAKER_05Like oh, for each holiday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so like obviously we have poolside and how to juggle ballads and blades for the summer.
SPEAKER_05Those are summer books.
SPEAKER_00Those are summer books, like because like I don't know if I really need to I don't need to read a book about the 4th of July. I want to read something that's like in the summer. Like, I want to be there to be mentions of the pool, the the warm thunderstorms, you know, stuff like that, the beach, things like that. I need that for the next two months.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Honestly.
SPEAKER_05I want another good fantasy book.
SPEAKER_00But I want a good boy, inspired book.
SPEAKER_05I think that I have one. I have one.
SPEAKER_00I think we should read a fantasy book, possibly around Halloween. I think that would be great.
SPEAKER_05Fantasy book around yes.
SPEAKER_00That'd be great.
SPEAKER_05Okay, you say fantasy book around Halloween, but fantasy to me is kind of more Somerset. And so when it comes to Halloween, I want more like a horror. A horror movie. Like Vidic, like um Leviticus.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we yeah, we watched that. Did we not talk about that? Yeah, yeah, we didn't. I don't think we did. We should add we'll talk about that in a second. Oh my god. Yeah. We haven't reviewed that yet. We'll do that after this. We have not reviewed that yet.
SPEAKER_05Because last week we were with Jinx.
SPEAKER_00We didn't talk about it. We'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_05Okay, we'll we'll talk about that then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because yeah, we still anyway.
SPEAKER_00But those are some of our ideas. We definitely want a Halloween like horror type of book. Yeah. That would be cool. And I definitely want, I don't know if there's really like any Thanksgiving books, but it'd be cool to have like an autumn set book.
SPEAKER_05Autumn set book. I'm think okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm thinking of Icy Poor. Icy Poor by LK Drake. The one about the bartenders. The one that hasn't come out yet.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_00That would be fun. That would be fun. But December, I'm looking for like Christmas or Hanukkah related stuff. I think that'd be really good and really cool.
SPEAKER_05Ooh, Hanukkah representation would be nice. Right? Yeah, it looks like that.
SPEAKER_00That'd be awesome. That'd be so awesome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh, set in New York. That'd be so good. I know.
SPEAKER_00I'm over here thinking, I'm like, there's gotta be some fun stuff out there.
SPEAKER_05Set in oh or maybe set in Vermont.
SPEAKER_00Just like a random estate.
SPEAKER_05Vermont is great for like Christmas.
SPEAKER_00And then like in Yeah, and then like February, obviously, like February, we're gonna be reading love. We're reading love stories this this whole podcast. So like there you can honestly read whatever you want in February. Yeah. But I would love to do a St. Patrick's Day one. Something that takes place in like Ireland. That would be so cool. That would be really cool. That would be so cool. But yeah, I want to do some hot like themed reads. I think that would be really fun. Yeah. Movies too, if there's like any around.
SPEAKER_05Did you hear what I said?
SPEAKER_00No, what did you say?
SPEAKER_05I farted.
SPEAKER_00Oh we both farted on this episode, just so you guys are aware.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and if you like that, you can pay for it. You can pay for it.
SPEAKER_00We do have a Patreon opening called the fart session. No, I'm joking. Um, but yeah, I think those are really fun ideas.
SPEAKER_05Only farts.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. What did you say?
SPEAKER_05Only farts.
SPEAKER_00Only farts. Oh my god. And then, and now you're coughing. Um, but I also want to do we want to do a special episode where we quiz ourselves on each other and see how much we'll we know each other. Yeah. And I think it'd be really fun if we did like a pie to a face.
SPEAKER_05Yes. And that one I still really want to do like outside.
SPEAKER_00Outside, because I don't want to mess up our set. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I don't want to mess up our balcony.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Valid. So those are some of our ideas. Okay, let's talk about Leviticus.
Leviticus Review
SPEAKER_00Yes. So we saw that what, two weeks ago now? I think it was two weeks ago. Because we saw it on a Tuesday. It was a little before Jinx and Kayleigh came.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it was before the fourth. So yeah, it had to have been like two weeks ago. But we saw it late night on what? A Tuesday night? Because we were kind of just like both like because I remember we were texting each other at work. You were at work, I was at work, and you were just like Wanna go see a movie? No, no, that's not listen, listen, listen, listen. This is what I love about us, and I love us so much for this, is because like I just texted you, what time do you get off? What time do you get off? And you go, Are you looking at movies too? And I was like, bro. Literally, we're Bluetooth-linked, like you said. We're literally thinking the exact same thing, and you're like, Were you looking at movies too?
SPEAKER_03And I was like, Yes.
SPEAKER_00So we're like, let's go see Leviticus. And I don't think it was up Claire's alley, so she didn't go, but I don't think she would have liked it. No. But I wanted to see what a gay horror movie looked like. Yeah. So I was like, let's let's watch this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it was low-key kind of creepy as fuck. It was. It was weird as fuck. There were some jump scares. It was really, really creepy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Very um homophobic, but like creepy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was homophobic.
SPEAKER_00Because like part of the church like tried to like But that was the whole plot. Yeah, that was the plot. Because Leviticus is the word in the Leviticus, I'm pretty sure, is like something. It's in the book.
SPEAKER_05It's a book in the Bible.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So like they're like possessed. If you haven't seen the trailer, like they're like possessed, and like they're not each other, and then they'll get like thrown off. The actors, though, did a wonderful job in this film. It's also in Australia, I think. And they lived in like a town that's very like industrial, like you said. Because I was like, there's not many city buildings, and you're like, yeah, it's a very industrial town.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, it was definitely good. I would definitely say if you're a horror movie fan and love LGBTQ content, I would definitely check it out. It's good. I really enjoyed it. Um it's a good time for sure. It's just very, how would you describe it? Very creepy, like very grayscale. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So grayscale, as in, you know, there's not a lot of humor, there's not a lot of emotion.
SPEAKER_00It's also not colorful.
SPEAKER_05It's not a colorful movie. It's it's physically a grayscale, but also the feeling that you have of it is you're not so much sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for a jump scare or waiting for a huge plot. You are just there to witness somebody else's terrifying story. That's kind of what it is. Yeah. You're just you're just kind of more like dumbfounded the whole movie.
SPEAKER_00You're just watching them suffer.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Because first of all, let me let me just like can we just deep dive into every one of the characters?
SPEAKER_00So the two of them?
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, we'll start with the two of them.
SPEAKER_00So it's I don't remember their names, but I'm pretty sure one of them was named MAME.
SPEAKER_05Yes, it was.
SPEAKER_00It was like N-A-I-M, though.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And um, because it was Australian. It was set in Australia.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And the other guy's name, and that's gonna bother me.
SPEAKER_05You can look it up. Oh, you don't. I can't, never mind. That's why I look everything up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Okay. So.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, it's a good movie. I definitely enjoyed it. Although I had to sit on it for a minute. I don't know if you did too, but I had to think on it for a while if I actually enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so there's Name and Ryan. Ryan.
SPEAKER_00The actor who You could use a trim. He's in a movie called Talk to Me, and he's the little brother in the movie Talk to Me. Oh, that makes sense. And he was really good in that as well.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so Name, played by Joe Bird.
SPEAKER_00Great job, by the way.
SPEAKER_05Ryan, played by Stacey Clausen.
SPEAKER_00Amazing job, both of you. So wonderful.
SPEAKER_05Name and his mom moved to the small town.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_05Because his mom pay played by Arlene, his mom, Arlene, played by Mia Wasikowska. Also Alice in Wonderland. I know she played.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's right. That's why she looks so familiar. Yep.
SPEAKER_05And so she comes there after I think their dad has died or divorced or something.
SPEAKER_00Something like that.
SPEAKER_05And they end up. She moves there because she feels that she has found her people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Like her her religion, her vibe. And but she's not really thinking of her son.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_05Not very much. And so when her son is coming to her asking for help or asking for advice or asking for this, she kind of gives a shit opinion, in my personal opinion.
SPEAKER_00No, she does. It's true. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
SPEAKER_05And so, you know, he doesn't really have a lot of friends. And the only friend that he ever did have was Ryan. Ryan. But, you know, it turns out they kind of like each other and they like kissing too.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05So, but what one day when Name wants to go over to Ryan's house and hang out with him and like knock on his door and everything to do some more kissing, he finds out that Ryan is kissing another boy. Which we still don't know who this boy is.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_05Like, how is that are they in relation or whatever? Also, first of all, what really set it up for being really creepy was the fact that they were throwing rocks at each other.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, that was terrifying.
SPEAKER_05I don't know why. Do you understand why?
SPEAKER_00I do understand why.
SPEAKER_05Why?
SPEAKER_00Okay, this is gonna sound so stupid, but to me, this is gonna sound like really dumb. Like, seriously so stupid.
SPEAKER_05Better be because it is really fucking dumb.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever seen E.T.?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00Do you remember the scene? Like, for me personally, he scared the fuck out of me as a child. He was so scary looking.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he scared a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00But when he's out, when Elliot's out in the shed and a ball comes just out of the shed, out of nowhere, with nobody in it, and it just keeps rolling back. Scared the fuck out of me. And ever since I've seen that scene, those scenes traumatize me now. That's why I'm scared of that. So if someone, if you see someone throw something at you out of nowhere, like if something's being thrown at him out of nowhere, you don't know where it's coming from, and he's just throwing it back, and you can't see if there's another person there, that's fucking scary. I don't like that at all.
SPEAKER_05But it was just two boys throwing rocks at each other.
SPEAKER_00I know, but like they didn't show it because it wasn't really him. Remember? It wasn't really him, and that's how that one guy, spoiler alert by the way.
SPEAKER_05No, this was at the beginning of the movie before any priest came into the picture.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, they did do that at the beginning. That wasn't scary. But after they've been, you know. Because then it does get scary.
SPEAKER_05Because even Ryan and Name are doing that to each other. They're throwing rocks at the end.
SPEAKER_00I forgot about that. They did do that in the beginning of the movie, you're correct.
SPEAKER_05Which is like, is it supposed to be like a form of punishment before you kiss each other?
SPEAKER_00I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. But ever since then, they did do that where they showed it off camera. To me, off camera, that's scary.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That was scary. Because then that one thing happens to that guy at the gas station. Mother thrown rocks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then that happened to him. Spoiler alert. That's right. Spoiler alert, by the way. It's been out for a while. But go watch it if you haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_05If it's still in the theater, then it's considered a spoil.
SPEAKER_00Just I didn't say what happened.
SPEAKER_05I'm sure a lot of other people on YouTube have already reviewed this movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00With spoilers. I anyway, I did like it. So this little cray cray.
SPEAKER_05It's just, it's the fact that I think this is a town in which is built upon adults are speaking, children can speak later.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05That kind of a theme. So the children never actually get help. Instead, they just bring the priest in, and the priest does some sort of demonic thing to them. And I don't think even think the priest realizes it. Or he does realize it, but he doesn't care about how much he's hurting the people that he's doing this to. And it's just Yeah, it's like it's also it's also a good representation of found family because they Naeam and Ryan found each other because they couldn't find anybody else related to them or close to them that they could feel love from.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But they felt love from each other.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And so and all they wanted to do was protect each other and be there for each other. And so instead at the end of the movie, they decide they're gonna run away together.
SPEAKER_00And the only way they can avoid the evil spirit thing is if they're around other people.
SPEAKER_05Yep, and if they're around each other, they're good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But like if they aren't around other people, you don't know if it's actually them.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because you came to Name's house. Just you know. It's terrifying, but it was good. I really enjoyed it. I did need to sit I did need to sleep on it though, in order to know if I liked it. Because I remember I remember we left the theater and we were kind of like, I don't know. Yeah, I it's like Sometimes I watch a movie and I still need to process it like a week later.
SPEAKER_05It's like Saltburn. I relate to ever since I watched fucking Saltburn.
SPEAKER_00That movie's bad.
SPEAKER_05It is bad. It's terrible.
SPEAKER_00I don't like that movie.
SPEAKER_05But it's the idea that it is again one of those movies that you're just like What the fuck? That you're just like uncomfortable sitting there the entire time. Yeah. And I think that was the purpose of the movie is to make you uncomfortable. Not in like uh, hey, wake up, this is what's going on in our real world because no, that's not what's happening in our real world. Homophobia is what's happening, but having demons upset on each other, no, that's not what's happening. Unless it did happen to somebody else, then you know, share your story, please. But just the idea that it's supposed to just make you uncomfortable in your seat.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I was uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And it's kind of it, yeah, it makes brings up your adrenaline a little bit.
SPEAKER_00But I mean not a lot of sex though. None, actually.
SPEAKER_05No, no. I don't think that was the point of the No.
SPEAKER_00I was just point- I was just pointing that out. Like there's nothing.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, if you are worried about, you know, if okay, well, if you're gonna go see a gay movie or gay horror movie, and you're like, is there gonna be sex in it? Don't fucking go see it. If that's your biggest concern, don't see it.
SPEAKER_00Because I know some people don't like those scenes, and I understand that, but like you come to an extent.
SPEAKER_05It's a gay horror. Do you really think that there's gonna be a plot line thick enough for romance?
SPEAKER_00It really depends, yeah. Yeah. Because like sometimes like in horror movies, like it's not just it's sometimes it's not just gays too, but like straight people, like, you know, will have sex or whatever, and then they'll die in the horror movie. Like, that's like a huge thing in like the screen movies, like, oh, if you have sex, you'll die, or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00Like, but like they weren't gay, but like, you know, it was still kind of just like a thing. So sometimes there's sex in horror movies, so I can understand that, but like that wasn't the plot, that wasn't the premise of it. So therefore there was no reason there was no reason to put it in there. Yeah. If there if it was in there, I probably would have been a little upset because I would have been like, this is not what this is about. Yeah. You know. Overall, though, what would you give it out of 10? I'd give it like 6.5.
SPEAKER_05I'd give it like four and a half, five.
SPEAKER_00Four and a half, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Could I mean it was a fun watch. It was entertaining. Yeah, it was entertaining for sure. But like, definitely. I don't think I'm gonna go back to it and watch it again.
SPEAKER_00I don't think I'd rewatch it, no.
SPEAKER_05No. A movie has to be like a 10 for me in order to re-watch it again.
SPEAKER_00That's valid. Yeah. That's red, white, and royal blue.
SPEAKER_05Red, white, and royal blue.
SPEAKER_00That's a masterpiece.
SPEAKER_05I need to focus on working on my words. Red, white, and royal blue.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, not right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Well.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, that's our review of Leviticus. We did watch it. Um, anyway, we're moving
Heartstopper Chatter
SPEAKER_00on. Heartstopper, the final volume is here. And it is thick as fuck. It is huge. It is a big book. It's 438 pages. I haven't read it yet. I know you're not a graphic novel person.
SPEAKER_04Never have been.
SPEAKER_00So I'm gonna read it. I won't say anything, but I'll probably read it within a day because these are pretty easy to read through pretty quickly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I'll probably read it after or a little before um how to juggle uh ballads and blades.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00And then I'll read, I'll read this before and then I'll read that. But this is gonna be such this might honestly be an emotional thing for me.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_00This actually might be really emotional for me because honestly, Heartstopper was like the first like thing that I really got into for like LGBTQ content.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, like I watched Red Right and Royal Blue, but like Heartstopper was like one of the first things.
SPEAKER_05Did I introduce it to you or did you introduce it to me?
SPEAKER_00I knew what it was. I think we both knew what it was. I knew what it was because I saw a lot of people talking about it on TikTok, and then I was like, oh, it's on Netflix. And I was like, I had nothing to do, I didn't have a job. So I was just like, let me just sit down and watch this. I was in school, I was just chilling, I finished all my homework, and it was raining, it was a rainy day, and my roommate wasn't there, and I was just like, I'm gonna watch this. And I was just like, fuck. This is really good and emotional and amazing. And I was like, oh my god, wait, they're books. And I hadn't read the books until it maybe like a couple years later, but I love Nick and Charlie so much, just because like their story is it's very young adult. If you haven't read Heartstopper or watched Heartstopper, it's very young adult, it's not smut level like at all. No, it's very young adult, and I think it's great for younger readers too. Like high school, you know, if they want to read this. I mean, like, I don't know. I don't know what grades would be. Honestly, because there is sex sex references are in here for sure, but like freshman year and high school, like this is a book that you would probably enjoy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because it's it's set during freshman year of high school.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. So it's like it's definitely more of a high school book. It's young adult.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's very clean, it's not like there's sex references, but nothing's ever really like shown.
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_00You know, you don't even see like butts or anything.
SPEAKER_05You barely see them shirtless.
SPEAKER_00Barely. The only time you ever do is like when they're at the beach. Um but I have read all five novels. Yep. And this is the sixth one, and I'm really scared to read it. Because the author, Alice, was just like, oh well, I can't please everybody. You know, like that's the thing about endings. Not everyone's gonna be happy with it. Stranger Things. Some people didn't like that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So like this could be for me, this could be either very good or I could be really like, mm.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I feel like though, it's gonna be good because I open it, I open the first page, and it says volume six, and the first page says Forever. Which is the name of the movie.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Heartstopper Forever is the name of the movie. So this has to be the movie. Some of you are like, I'm already watching it before it comes out. I mean, that's my guess.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But can that stand? Awesome. Yeah, that's that thick. It's that thick that it can stand up on its own. But I'm it's gonna be kind of an emotional toll, maybe. Just because like I've known them since when did that come out? Like 2022, 2021? And it's it had to have been, I think it was a COVID show. It might have been a little after COVID, yeah. Because it was filmed in obviously it's in England, for those who don't know, it is in England. Um, but one of the things that I really enjoyed about is like it I felt Charlie's perspective a lot of why didn't it come out in high school. Why I was very closed in. Because people are fucking mean. People are jerks, people are fucking douchebags. And that's why I was like, no, I'm not, you know, and it's just I related to that on a kind of on a kind of level, and I was just like, I really enjoy their story. I also love Kit Connor and Joe Locke.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And Joe Locke is also now in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and he's portrays a gay character in that as well. And that character is gay in the comics, who is with this guy named Holkling, who is rumored to be played by either so fan casting have been have been saying Kit Connor, who is Nick. But I've seen other theories or like rumors that it's Connor's story. Which could be interesting. Which could be interesting. Because they're around the same age. I think. But I do think Kit Connor would be a better fit. Because we already know they have they can show us their chemistry.
SPEAKER_05You said Hulkling?
SPEAKER_00Hulkling.
SPEAKER_05Hulkling.
SPEAKER_00He's he's literally how he sounds. He's a Hulk with wings.
SPEAKER_05Okay, but see here's the thing. Just like in Heated Rivalry, you will probably never see Hudson Williams and Connor's story in another romance.
SPEAKER_00No. Again. You won't. It'll just be this. Same thing with the story. Same thing will probably go here.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's why it might be just Connor just be Connor's story.
SPEAKER_05Or it might be somebody else's.
SPEAKER_00Or somebody else entirely different.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We have no idea.
SPEAKER_05Because you it's hard.
SPEAKER_00You gotta mix you gotta mix it up.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know.
SPEAKER_05You you can't really take the same to what they're originally known for and then do it again, but at a different plot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because they want to be able to have like they w you need them to have similar range in storytelling.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_00You know?
SPEAKER_05Can we talk about the movies that Hudson Williams is gonna be in and Connor Story's gonna be in? Yes. I'm so excited. I don't even know what they are. But I know he's gonna be in a movie with Dylan O'Brien. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I can only think Connor Story's gonna be in a movie with Melissa McCarthy. I'm seated.
SPEAKER_05I am seated. I think they're gonna be great. I think it's gonna be phenomenal.
SPEAKER_00I love those guys to death. I just can't wait until it comes out. And Francois, did you hear about Francois? He's gonna be on Broadway with Superman. David Cornsweat.
SPEAKER_05What and what show?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember what it's called, but they're gonna be on Broadway together. She's doing her research.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. But yeah, it's I'm really excited for Heartstopper. Um, I will probably do a full review on it, just me, for the book, and post it on Beyond the Closet.
SPEAKER_05Wait, David Cornsweat and who?
SPEAKER_00Francois Arnaude. Um. But I'll probably do a separate book review for Heartstopper, volume six, and talk about that just because Sarah's not a big graphic novel person. However, just to clarify, Sarah has seen the show.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And she is gonna watch the movie with me. We're gonna have a little watch party when it comes out on a weekend for.
SPEAKER_05Three days of rain.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_05I don't know what that's about.
SPEAKER_00So we will be going to New York.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'll do a review on this, and we'll both do a review on the movie too, when that comes out. Yep. Might even have Claire on, because Claire really likes Heartstopper.
SPEAKER_05That'd be good. I think she'd want to be on for my my heart is still at season one. I know.
SPEAKER_00I love season one.
SPEAKER_01And they're so little. If you look at them, they're like so much younger.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I'm just excited to see where this goes and how this story wraps up. Um but I mean, that's all I got for today. I mean, unless you can think of anything else. Um But yeah, I'm excited for Connor and Hudson's new movies.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Those are gonna be great. Um, they're so talented. I'm very excited for them. Their careers are gonna be amazing. They start filming season two soon. I don't know if you knew that, but I'm pretty sure they start filming next month. So you know what that means, right? It means we're probably gonna get a like new character casting announcement soon. We're probably gonna know who's playing Fabian soon. We're probably gonna know who's playing Fabian soon and Ryan and Troy. And we get to judge. Oh my god, Sarah. I'm gonna judge, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna. I'm I think it'll be good though. I think they're gonna cast them well.
SPEAKER_05Oh, because they casted um Shane and Ilya so well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I know they're gonna cast everybody else perfectly.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And they did with Scott and Kip too. I know Scott's blonde in the book, but Francois kills it as Scott. Yeah. He portrays that character so well. Kip is also Robbie is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I know damn well they're gonna cast Fabi and Ryan and Troy and hopefully Harris. They all have to be in it, except for maybe like Kyle and Eric are the only ones that I don't see them bringing in. Because like Kyle and Eric.
SPEAKER_05I don't know how much money they made off of that show.
SPEAKER_00Of what?
SPEAKER_05How much they made off of Who Hudson and Connor? No, not just of the show.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's caught up.
SPEAKER_05Like how like how much money the producers got and everything to in order to put towards the second season.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Because they didn't have a lot for the that's what Jacob Jr.
SPEAKER_00was saying. They didn't have like a big budget.
SPEAKER_05No, they didn't, and so they did what they could with what they had. And that's why Shane is sitting on a rock, not a dock.
SPEAKER_00That's right. That's right. People were talking about that. That was kind of funny. Um but yeah, I don't see Kyle and Eric really being in the story because this has to be based off the long game. And in the long game, you have Shane and Ilya, you have Fabian and Ryan, Ryan and Fabian, too, because they go on a double date to that pizza place, and then you have Troy and Harris that come in too. The only ones you don't see are Kyle and Eric.
SPEAKER_05So You know, it is kind of crazy. After reading the long game, it is so beautifully wrapped up in the long game for Shane and Ilya's story, that it is kind of funny that she's making a third book for them and why it was so hard to figure out what to do because it's like their story is their story was already kind of wrapped up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, if it ended right here, I don't think anyone would have had an issue with it.
SPEAKER_05No, but I think she's gonna show came out.
SPEAKER_00And she didn't say Unrivaled was the last one, by the way. She was like, I never said that.
SPEAKER_05I'm just like, what is she gonna do?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but I do think that it's gonna be fantastic.
SPEAKER_05She's gonna keep writing them until they retire from hockey.
SPEAKER_00Honestly. I don't blame her.
SPEAKER_05Because right now they're in their 30s.
SPEAKER_00They just turned 30 in the long game.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So like I'm really excited for Unrivaled, though. It's gonna be great. I know it's gonna be great. It's probably got a lot to do with their marriage and how they handle their marriage and how they handle the public and stuff like that. So I'm sure it's gonna be great. Um, but yeah, that's I think that's all we have time for today, right?
SPEAKER_04I think so.
SPEAKER_00But we will see you guys next week, and we probably won't we won't be done with our books just yet. So we'll probably be talking about something.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, we forgot to talk about Love Island. It's fine. I'm not caught up yet. Not like fully.
SPEAKER_00We will be doing some next week, we will be doing it and it ends on yeah, it ends on Sunday.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so then perfect.
SPEAKER_00We can wrap it all up and we'll talk about season eight of Love Island on next week's episode.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_00Um, because it does wrap up this Sunday. Um, so until then, yeah, we'll be chatting about movies. We'll probably be chatting about, I'll probably talk to you a little bit about this. Yep. I won't spoil it, but I'll talk to you a little about it a little bit, and we can keep each other updated about each other's books.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00So until then, we will see you guys next week. Have a good one, and we'll see you later.
SPEAKER_02Bye. Bye.